MAMA KNOWLES CUTS OFF INTERVIEW
Friday, September 29, 2006
Beyonce and Mama Knowles introduced their clothing line “House of Dereon” at Macy’s in Chicago yesterday, and quickly cut off the interview when the reporter asked some questions about the sizing of the clothes.
The reporter quoted a boutique owner who said she couldn’t get any of her customers to fit the clothing and Tina asked, Why would you do that, when this is supposed to be a positive thing.. The fakeness of the whole interview is so annoying to me. Beyonce just smiles and looks to her Mom for everything, and Tina had to re-do a one word slip up. It wasn’t even that serious. But whatever, watch the video for yourself.









313 Comments
1.
Coffy
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
what happened to artist having media training? and when has anyone seen Beyonce wearing clothes from this line?
2.
GirlBlue
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Mama Knowles looks so evil…
3.
Brooke
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
I’m with Tina. That was unnecessary to bring up at that point. Thats a customer service issue. They were trying to introduce the new line.
I think she was trying to get a rise out of Ms knowles.
Reporters think they slick.
4.
jscene
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
how come when mama knowles messed up while interviewing, she started at the beginning again? it made her whole speech seem rehearsed! LMAO…i like mama knowles though.
5.
missinform-er
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
lol—that was an honest question and she still had the right to honestly not answer it….lol @ #3, customer service issue? how?
6.
Meatloaf
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Would Beyonce be where she is today without Tina?
Janet had to eventually tell Joe…”Dad, you’re fired”!
7.
Samantha
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
I didn’t watch the video, but how come she didn’t say something along the lines of, “Oh, well we are aware of the allegations, and we will be working to fix them immediately because we definitely want consumers to enjoy our clothing.” What’s wrong with that?
8.
Yeah Boy
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Beyonce is not an articulate woman AT ALL!!
It’s unfortunate…Plus why would you say the line is for “everyone”, but you don’t even have larger sizes the accomodate thicker women???..Get a clue!
9.
Leenie
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Mama knowles is the backbone of Beyonce, she’s lucky to have her or the media would eat her up
10.
Badgyrl
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
I agree that Tina had the right to not answer the question, but she definitely handled the situation all wrong. I’m sure she’s “lookin’ crazy right now,” though, because anybody who wanted to redo one word, sure as hell didn’t wouldn’t want a messed up interview like this to get out.
11.
sesamestreet
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
TINA KNOWLES IS THE BIGGEST IDIOT. SHE DOESN’T EVEN REALIZE IT, BUT THAT WAS THE BEST PLACE AND TIME TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE WITH THE CLOTHING LINE. SO MANY RETAILERS HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT THE SIZE ISSUE IN THE CLOTHING. SHE SHOULD HAVE GOT THAT OUT IN THE CLEAR, INSTEAD SHE JUST LOOKS LIKE A HIGH, DUMB, WITCH, BIOTCH AND GETS ANGRY BECAUSE THE REPORTER ASKS HER A LEGITIMATE QUESTION. I HATE IGNORANT WOMEN LIKE HER. SHE NEEDS TO STOP BEING IN CONTROL AND F**KING HER DAUGHTERS CAREER UP, AND FOR ONCE LET BEYONCE TAKE UP FOR HER SELF.
12.
seabreeze
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
B you know I love you but your head is as empty as a helium balloon and ma dukes needs to stop with that “pitbull in a skirt” shyt! Damn, she always look as if she’s about to phuck you up! Oh and #7 COSIGN!!
13.
my opinion
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
beyonce keeps on repeating the same thing - that HOD’s clothes r for women with booties, large bodies and now it turns out that she is a liar and all their clothes just made for slim girls
14.
trinkywiggy
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
All she had to do was say that the problem has been brought to our attention and we will be resolving it shortly. We want to make sure that everyone can wear House of Dereon. Was that hard??
15.
Shun
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
I’m getting sick of the “Beyonce” that they’ve molded since she was 10. I want to see the real woman. People can say what they want to say about Britney Spears and the horrible choices she’s made, but at the end of the day, she’s a flawed 20-something girl from Kentwood, LA and Alicia Keys is a real chick from Hell’s Kitchen who-in-THE-Hell is the real Beyonce?!
16.
my opinion
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
No 11 what r u talking about ?
” SHE NEEDS TO STOP BEING IN CONTROL AND F**KING HER DAUGHTERS CAREER UP, AND FOR ONCE LET BEYONCE TAKE UP FOR HER SELF. ”
if beyonce could answer that question she would. the reality is that she has no clue whats going on with the line. just before the interview her mother put on that suit on her and taught her some words, which she had to say. thats it. if there is a conflict beyonce can never reply. she never knows what to say and always says the same thing, over and over
17.
solstarr
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
YESSSSSS!! I am so glad this was brought up! Before this line came out they said it would be for “Ethnic women” with ass and hips!! They LIED!! Those jeans are not made for women of color with a REAL shape!! My mom is a big time Beyonce STAN and has been asking me to get her them damn jeans(sh lives in a small town) My mom has ass!! I guess B gets hers custom because they r NOT off the rack!!
18.
trinkywiggy
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
I dont understand what was so negative about the question. It was an appropiate question and also a test to see if they truly real about what they saying. I would have had respect for Mama Knowles if she would have answered the question and tried not to go off. But know here she go acting like she trying to hide something. She made them look more guilty than anything else. And for the record, I dont think nobody wearing those clothes.
19.
poetic_blue
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Bitches get on my nerves…
20.
sesamestreet
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
CO-SIGN WITH #8 SHE CAN NOT ATICUALE A PROPER SPEECH IF SOMEONE PAID HER TO. WAIT I THINK THEY DO LOL. BUT ON THE REAL IF HER MOMMY AND DADDY WOULD STOP FEEDING HER HER LINES, SHE WOULD BE ABLE TO CONVERSE WITH THE MEDIA IN AN INTELLECTUAL WAY. ISTEAD OF THE IGNORANT, ALWAYS USING THE SAME WORDS TO FOR EVERYTHING, BECAUSE SHE DOESN’T HAVE A VAST VOCABULARY, IDIOTIC WAY SHE DOES. EXAMPLE: EVERYTHING IS JUST AMAZING, MY HAIR IS AMAZING, THE TOUR WAS AMAZING ETC. SHE USES AMAZING FOR EVEYTHING AND I KNOW DAMN WELL EVERYTHING IS NOT AMAZING LOL.
REPORTER: HOW’S THAT NAPPY WEAVE BEYONCE
BEYONCE: AMAZING!
LMAO!!!
21.
young eaz
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
They both are so fake.
Beyonce is just like *smile* *blink, blink*, she always actin like she in a damn beauty pagent, where is the realness. I know Jay wouldn’t be with someone so fake, so boring. I think beyonce be holdin back, there has got to be more to her.
Tina…. She is just a scary woman. Just from that interview you can tell that she is very controlling
*She looks like she’s frigid in bed too. lol
22.
young eaz
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Did I just say that? I be trippin’
23.
sesamestreet
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
LOL LOOK AT ME I MEANT ^^^^^^
ARTICULATE
24.
bailey
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
beyonce and tina need to address this issue immediately, and I agree that they should have taken the opportunity to do so during this interview. I have heard the same complaints about the clothing line. It would be a wise business move to provide larger sizes for those who obviously are anxious to by her clothing. $$$$$ hello-create another line-plus sizes-that would have been an opportunity to create a buzz/we are working on another line with larger sizes and we are currently looking for plus size models!!!
At this point in the game you can’t look like you don’t have it together/make it up as you go!
Her reaction caught on video is exactly what the reporter was looking for, I don’t blame her any good reporter should have asked that question, it is what the people want to know. They better hurry up and do damage control the media loves to build artists up and immediately tear them down.
I have a feeling that this is just the beginning……beyonce and tina should lay low for a bit,not that they have a reason to hide but after this the media will be like vultures intentionally pushing hot buttons to get a reaction caught on tape.
25.
Lady J
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
# 1, Beyonce has been seen ALOT wearing her clothing line, I have also seeen Kelly out and about in some of the pieces too. You would have to go to the site in order to become familiar with the line and know when she is wearing it.
26.
Grammar
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
CO-SIGN WITH #8 SHE CAN NOT ATICUALE A PROPER SPEECH IF SOMEONE PAID HER TO.
^^If you writing patterns your speech the statement above rings true for you as well.
27.
LM
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Why oh why did they have to make that interview so difficult on themselves….The reporter was just doing what she’s paid to do..just like the Knowles were doin what they make money doin…That would have been a great forum to address any issues with HOD..I guess u learn from every mistake..Moving forward Beyonce’s gonna really have to learn to articulate otherwise the media will have a field day with her..
28.
LEENIE
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Neither Beyonce or Tina have proper interview Etiquette, But I’d rather be Tina who dosen’t know what to say but says something rather the Beyonce who sits there grinning hoping her hair looks ok
29.
southern_gal213
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
I do belive that Tina could have just kept speaking,I mean everybody “fumbles” sometimes when they speak..it just made her look like she has to be perfect.Which I find that’s what is wrong(NO);I mean why people ALWAYS “read” Beyonce has “robtic”,beacuse often times she seems so “rehearsed”-as her mother was in the video.So my thing is…if they just relax and stop trying so hard to seem pefect then everything would work out fine.Now the reporter I do belive could have been a bit more tactful and maybe addressed the question in a different manner,then maybe it wouldn’t have “rattled” Ms. Tina’s nerves like that. I must admit it was boaderline funny! But at the same time,I understand her defense,as well.*Don’t get me wrong…I love Beyonce/Knowles family,but hey *THEY AIN’T EXEMPT! –feel me?
30.
Lady J
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
# 8 You are absolutely correct, I love Beyonce and the line is ok, but they do not have a plus size line on the site anywhere and in my opinion the pieces are a bit pricey. I am just sick of them saying that the line is affordable because it is not.
31.
Brian
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
I watched the video and I don’t understand what the big deal is. I don’t think that beyonce should talk about HOD at all, because I really don’t even view it as her clothing line. beyonce is a model. LOL. that line, you can tell, is tina’s baby because she’s the only one that ever really talks about it - you can tell that she’s invested a lot of time and energy into that clothing line.
I don’t blame tina for not wanting to discuss that in the interview, either. *shrug* I don’t really see what beyonce has to do with any of this at all. LOL.
32.
sesamestreet
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
FIRST OFF IT IS “IF YOUR* NOT IF ^^^YOU WRITING….SECONDLY I CORRECTED MYSELF LOSER. THIRDLY, I THINK YOU AS WELL NEED TO CORRECT YOUR GRAMMER..GRAMMER!
33.
trinkywiggy
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Again I say…
All she had to do was say that the problem has been brought to our attention and we will be resolving it shortly. We want to make sure that everyone can wear House of Dereon. And keep it moving….
34.
Grammar
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
No. It’s actually GRAMMAR. Look it up. Feel free to use the same dictionary you used to look up ARTICULATE.
35.
sesamestreet
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
CO-SIGN WITH #33 TRINKYWIGGY
36.
blk dds
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
That was the first time I ever heard her speak.
37.
bailey
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
P.S.
I think the negative reaction may have been due to the fact that this is new for tina and beyonce and maybe her measurements are a bit off, “mistake” maybe and they went along with sending the clothes out because of all the hype or they had already committed to distributing the clothing and didn’t want to make anyone aware of the problem.
I don’t know I am just speculating, but on a personal level I know several times in college I would stay up all night and try and pass off a term paper as quality work and sometimes it would work and sometimes a professor would call me out and I would get all defensive, but I knew damn well they were telling the truth but I was trying to save face, why else would she not have a prepared statement to deal with the issue?
it’s hard to admit when you’ve made a mistake, it’s obvious the whole entire knowles family are perfectionists -that’s why her reaction seemed like “how dare you ask me that question”
just my opinion
38.
LEENIE
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
U need to be the Spokeswoman for HOD #33.
39.
HotMama
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
I live in Chitown and a reporter from Fox news local station 32 went on to say this morning that they were soo heated about what went down with the reporter from channel 2 that they almost cut off the interviews for other reports. She also stated that from that point on they were all warned to ask questions about the line and no personal questions about Bey’s personal life. The Fox news anchor also stated this morning that she had a copy of Bey’s Blender cover and showed it to Mmama Knowles and she rolled her eyes with displesure over the cover. You couldn’t ask for better drama than what being shown in Chicago over the past couple of days. Tonight is the Glamorama concert.
I think if your asking people to buy your clothing you should support it yourself by wearing it more than your typical photo ops and also be willing to defend the production issues.
40.
trinkywiggy
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
She had got all upset like the woman asked her about Beyonce looking like a lush at the afterparty the other night…Sheesh…They know they only making clothes for skinny women. And this coming from thick women.
41.
Classy
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
HOD is all that Bey and Kelly wear. Within the last year everything she has worn has been from HOD except formal gowns. And this aint got nothing to do with Bee, this is her Mothers line Bee is just promoting it. People need to ease up off that girl, look for a reason to bash her. Get over it.
42.
Bombshell
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Fake bitches.
43.
wtf
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
wow…that’s all i gotta say (shaking head).
44.
sesamestreet
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
YOU’RE RIGHT GRAMMAR, BUT LIKE I SAID I CORRECTED MYSELF IT WAS A TYPO. JUST LIKE YOU USING THE WORD *YOU* WHEN YOU SHOULD HAVE USED THE WORD *YOUR*. SAME DIFFERENCE, NOW STOP BEING A LOSER BY TRYING TO START IT UP WITH ME. I KNOW YOU’RE A BEYONCE STAN SO YOU WANT TO DEFEND HER ANYWAY POSSIBLE. BUT EVEN RAY CHARLES CAN SEE(AND HE’S DEAD), THAT HER AND HER MOMMY ARE BOTH UNARTICULATE, IMBECILE, GOOD FOR NOTHING LOSERS. SUCH AS YOUSELF.
45.
trinkywiggy
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Thanks Leenie..I majored in PR in college and worked in customer service. All of it is not rocket science. I believe if you cant handle the heat in that type of business than you need to get a spokesperson to be with you 24/7 and speak on your behalf. Reporters are there to report news and anything that smell like news. I cant fault the reporter. She was doing her job. People want to buy your clothes but they cant because of size issues. That means money is going to other retailers. To me that would be a problem for business. HOD need to get they game faces on.
46.
blackgyrl30
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
I dont know….I like Bey but it seems she has no substance we dont know the real HER…I think if she come real it will help her with sells and all.
I mean how can she be around Jay and still be fake??
Sooner or later she’s gonna get tired of the act.
47.
nate
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
When you start a new line with all the competition questions like that will be asked, instead of making yourself look stupid your suppose to answer it like you have some sense. I guess Mama Knowles didnt know that the cameras were rolling when she had her stank moment. I felt sorry for her when Miss Jones cused her out but now I see how she can be. And again Beyonce is standing in the side lines. but I cant blame B with all the stuff going on with her career. Its the moms responsiblity to make sure everything is right and that all questions are answered correctly and professionally. bad move on her part.
48.
blackgyrl30
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Sorry “sales” records that is..
49.
tjack25
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
tru dat @ #15
I like Beyonce but I do feel less connected to her cuz she never shows us the real “Beyonce”.
Alicia is Alicia str8 up, LeToya gives us Letoya,…and we all know Keshia Cole can’t be nobody but herself!!
Beyonce gives us…fake
50.
nate
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
i definalty dont think that the reporter was disrespecful in any way, it was a legit question for a new line, she even sounded nice asking it, i still cant get over how fake the whole interview was. Showbusiness is ugly
51.
onn
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
I don’t get why she wanted to re-do the word slip up. Jeez, we know that no one is perfect! As far as Beyonce not saying anything, what does anyone expect her to say? As I see it, no matter what B does, someone will have a twist to it. I don’t blame her at all. As far as her mom goes, why didn’t Tina just say that they’re looking into the whole thing and freaking move on. Anywho, why do I even care?
52.
ms_mac1
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Some people just can’t take the good with the bad. Seems like if it ain’t “positive” they want nothing to do with it — no matter how real it gets.
53.
ZV
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
I gotta admit, HOD clothers are nice. Mama Knowles is possesed, look at how she is looking at her own daughter!
She is truly living out her Rock Star fantasies though Beyonce. You notice Bey and her Mom have totally DIFFERENT
attitudes?? Beyonces personality is almost nonexistant and her Mom has TOO MUCH personality! They are night and day.
54.
Grammar
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
@ Sesame Street
You speak as if you need to reacquaint yourself with your moniker. Big Bird could probably still teach you a few things. I’m finished going back and forth with you. I don’t want to be the newest member of Making the Banned ((c) Eskay of Nahright)simply because I am not on topic with this post.
Perhaps I should at least comment on Tina and Beyonce Knowles. I believe both women should brush up on their interviewing skills and etiquette. Tina is a little uptight. She needs to relaaaaxxxx.
55.
HOLLA BACK
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
First and for most I watched the video and I went the HOD website and those clothes are not for us. I think Beyonce and her mother are so fake it’s like anytime anyone says anything negative about Beyonce or HOD it’s a problem. Beyonce is not God what is Tina going to do cuss out everyone who has a problem. She should have answered that question right then and there. But I feel the reason she didn’t answer is because Tina knows that real everyday ethnic women are not sizes 2 and 4 anymore. These days women have hips and are size 10 and 12 with curves. But now she all Hollywood and she forgot about her people. I am sorry but I would buy a pair of Baby Phat jeans by Kimmora for 60.00 than buy a pair of HOD for $138.00 I mean nothing on HOD website is less than 100.00 what is up with these prices. Even Oprah told them “So you have to have money to buy your clothes” and Tina sat there looking stupid. I agree with one of the other posts when I think this is just the beginning of everything. Remember the truth will come out. I wonder what Tina has to say about her drunk daughter’s pictures posted all over the website. But let Beyonce tell it she don’t drink. Bitch please you are with Jigga and we know how he get down. Wonder how she gone clean that up. Besides Kimoora’s Fall Baby Phat line is off the hook she has really stepped her game up.
56.
TooThru
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Thanks Angel.La. This is actually an interesting Beyonce related post. We actually to see what the real Tina Knowles is like.
57.
sesamestreet
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
NOW THAT I LOOK AT THE INTERVIEW AGAIN, IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THE REPORTER WAS ACTUALLY TRYING TO HELP. THE REPORTER HAD JUST DONE INTERVIEWS WITH RETAILERS COMPLAINING ABOUT THEIR CLOTHES. SO IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE SHE GAVE THEM A HEADS UP, SO THEY CAN ADDRESS THE ISSUES IN THE PROPER MANNER. IF SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN INTELLIGENT ABOUT THE WHOLE THING, SHE COULD HAVE CLEARED UP THE WHOLE SITUATION AND BEEN ON HER WAY. BUT ALAS SOME PEOPLE ARE BORN IDIOTS.
58.
EsqMrs
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
stop giving bey a hard time. she was hungover and had jetlag
59.
LEENIE
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Let me go on record in Saying that I am a Beyonce music fan, and I bump her new C.D everyday. As a fan I would appreciate it if we me more than just “sasha”.
I know she’s just a “model” for HOD, but if that’s the case she shouldn’t have been there. Them people wouldn’t look at her silly everytime Tina looses it
60.
quick question
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
I have one question, has anyone gone on the HOD website and checked the prices on their stuff? The shirts are $140 and up (unless its a tank top and its $40) and the jeans are all around $140 and $150, same as the shoes and the purses! They have the nerve to go on Oprah and say they were “affordable!” Who can afford this shit??? Tommy Hillfiger wasnt that expensive. And they said that its not just for a size 6, which is a lie. Get the fuck out of here. They are killing off their own customer. You wont catch me buying that shit. Not because the prices are ridiculous, because they lied about affordability, and who can wear their items. They may have some cute things every now and then, but it aint that cute.
Brian, I agree. It seems like B never knows anything about the line. Even when they were on Tyra, Tina was the one giving out all the info, Beyonce was just sitting there smiling. Like wtf? I dont know man.
61.
my opinion
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
No 49 ”
Alicia is Alicia str8 up, LeToya gives us Letoya,…and we all know Keshia Cole can’t be nobody but herself!!
Beyonce gives us…fake ”
beyonce is fake but for some reason she attracts us more than letoya or keyshia cole. why is that then
62.
sesamestreet
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
@ GRAMMAR…OK THE KNOWELS FAMILY STAN. PLEASE DON’T GO BACK AND FORTH WITH ME. LET ME DO ME AND YOU DO YOU AND WE CAN BE HAPPY.
63.
what cha know
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
I love how some of yall are like this has nothing to do with Beyonce why would she talk. Well this has everything to do with Beyonce….don’t nobody care about Tina Knowles. If it wasn’t for Beyonce’s celeb status Tina wouldn’t have even been at that press conference. She’d be sellin that mess on Myspace or something. Sure Tina probably designs and does the day to day stuff on the line but for all purposes it’s Beyonce’s line as well cause Beyonce is the hook. I’m sure if u read any article on this line it will not say Beyonce’s mother started a line but Beyonce AND her mother, Tina Knowles have created HOD. Let’s be real here.
As far as Tina’s reaction. That’s was so unprofessional. The point of the press conference was to address the line and what’s going on with the line. So the fact that apparently the line isn’t truthful to the we make clothes for all women campaign, is something that should be brought up. What group are u selling ur clothes to sounds like a valid thing to be brought up at a press conference but maybe that’s be. If she didn’t want to ask it fine but damn why u gotta act crazy about it. U can take some ppl out the hood but…u know the rest..
And beyonce i swear that girl could be a posterchild for why u shouldn’t drink the Kool-Aid. I remember at the BET Awards after she performed they were walkin her back to the dressin room and she was smiling like an idoit. Like that cult smile, I’m just smiling cause that’s what the medicine makes me do kinda smile. And i know she was tried as hell from all that running around on stage with Jay-Z. Her band was more hype then her coming off stage. Everybody else when they got off stage looked tired but like yeah i just did my thang, I’m so awesome (lol) but beyonce was just smiling…it was kinda scary..
64.
SUGA BUGA
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
All she had to say was “oh that is being worked out, we are working on that”. For her to stop the interview and say she wont discuss it, that makes me think okay, Im not going to buy the clothes because they wont fit. The line is suppossed to fit from 0-12 so she said on oprah!!
Whatever it is, I aint buying them no way.
65.
Peacekeeper
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
LOL, if Mrs. Knowles didn’t want to answer such a question for the public I know she is pissed people have been able to see the interview uncut.
Beyonce…god bless…I swear she can’t talk for anything. She as the hardest time saying the most basic things.
66.
hautia
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
#26
“If YOUR writing patterns your speech…”
And your name is…
67.
Lady J
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
**8 Imeant to say that I also *SAW* Kelly pictures out and about. lol
68.
mizzlizz
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
my two cents:
I don’t even blame beyonce for this.essentially, HOD is mama knowles creation. if this blunder is to fall on anyone’s shoulders, it should be tina’s. unfortunately it is beyonce’s public figure that gets the backlash.
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Grammar
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
@ Hautia
My name is Grammar. There is a difference between a typo and a grammatical error. My mistake was a typo. Thanks.
@ What Cha Know
Beyonce’s smile is a little scary. It looks as if it’s painted on her face.
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Diana
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
I know thats B’s Mama but she get on my last nerve!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She did look mighty stupid though. I guess, like my mom, she feel like she need to be in control of everything. IT DOES NOT WORK LIKE THAT.
71.
EsqMrs
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
lol @ that pic..looks like she’s saying
“HER MADE ME WEAR DIS RIGHT HURR, SHE MY DIRECTUH!”
72.
Lady J
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Ok I give up on this post, I didn’t mean to direct anything to # 8 either. Me and my typos on this post today. ARGGGGHHH lol.
73.
Diva
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
I’m from Chicago and the were talking about this on the news this morning. They were really giving it Beyonce and her mother. I don’t understand what was wrong with the question. Shouldn’t her fans be able to FIT into the clothes she’s making for them? Whatever they both need to go sit down.
74.
Diana
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
If Tina has been like this B’s whole life, I see why Letoya and Latavia wanted out, dang!!!!!!!!
75.
Lucy
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
First each of you must realize this is not Beyonce’s line. This is Tina’s way of trying to make it big through her daughter. So B is the front man. Just look at the way Tina is looking at her daughter in the above pic its as if her eyes are saying “this is my shit dont say to much because you don’t know shit”.
B is not a spokesperson this is without a doubt true, but instead of Tina just opening her own company (which may not do as well without B’s face and body) she has to leach off the fame of her own kid.
I will be glad when they are both looooooooong gone.
76.
Alisha
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Yeah it is foul though the clothes are still expensive if the clothes fit everyone why the largest you carry is a 12. I do think the clothes should fit every lady and each of us have our own different shape curve and hips ,stomach you get my drift. And thats sad that B always need her mama to take up for her when its her own line of clothing. The only reason mama Knowles fit the clothes is because she lost weight or either she strectched the fabric to get in it. I love Beyonce but sometimes she needs to just keep it real. That shy act aint fooling nobody and be a woman and speak for yourself. Looking to her mom to answer when she can.
77.
Marie
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
WHO CARES NOBODY TRYING TO BUY HER EXPENSIVE ASS REAL REGULAR BLAND LOOKING CLOTHING LINE. SHE NEEDS TO HIRE SOME PEOPLE FROM KIMORIA’S DESIGN TEAM TO HELP OUT
78.
bonifant
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Look at a Rihanna interview
Look at a Beyonce interview
From the interview honestly tell me who seems more polished, articulate and if they have been in the biz for a while.
Truth hurts yall
Hov.
79.
Diva
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
^^^^^Giving it to Beyonce and her mother. My bad on the grammar mistakes!
80.
hautia
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Anyways, no excuse (Tina)… the reporter had a right to ask those questions and they were not out of line as they pertained to the line of questioning.
My aunt (Bey stan) lives in houston and she thinks she is Beyonce!!! She tried to fit in those skinny heffa jeans. Even tried to get them tailored and they told her they could not. She got the biggest size from Latoya’s store, which is a 14.
Damn it! Enquiring minds want to know!!!
81.
Dee Dee
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Mama Tina has a problem with people not kissing her and Beyonce’s asses. If their clothes are not made correctly, it is what it is and she should have addressed it instead of getting all bitchy about it. We all know that most clothes are made all over Asia, and they don’t always make them correctly. Instead of being professional, she reminded everyone that she’s from the HOOD!
82.
dukesman2000
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Yeah, fuck a bodyguard, Beyonce got her moms. Beyonce got an image to uphold, so her moms tag along to cuss bitches ass out.
83.
Ebony77
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
DID I NOT SAY THE OTHER DAY THAT THE GIRL SPEAKS HORRIBLY. I BET THEY TRIED TO CUT CORNERS AND FIRED THE MEDIA TRAINING PERSON..THINKING THEY COULD SAVE A FEW COINS. THATS IT!!!!
I GOT IT..THEY FIRED THE MEDIA PERSON TO KEEP MORE MONEY IN THE FAMILY AND DECIDED TO LET TINA ACCOMPANY HER EVERYWHERE TO CONJUGATE HER VERBS AND ADJECTIVES WHEN SHE SCREW UP IN INTERVIEWS.
I KNEW IT.
(in the mean time, I hope I spelled everything right)
84.
trinkywiggy
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Actually Beyonce takes some credit for helping design with her mother. When she was on Tyra she said that she designs and approves designs with her mother as well. The entire slogan for the line is Couture.Kick.Soul. (Tina.Beyonce.Grandma)
85.
im_not_her
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
“thats a customer service issue.”
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HUH? Thats a form and function issue.
But I think its par for the production course. Its the evolution of a product/brand. You design, you impliment and you modify. You can never excpect that 100% of what you take to market will never evolve and change. You may even abandom it altogether.
I think Tina is conflicted in a way. Dereon is a mid to high end brand. High end from a prue demographic perspective doesn’t automatically denote Black, unless you target race and location and income ie NYC, ATL, DC, etc).
I don’t think she’s thought about and articulated who this label is for. I have friends who rave about their jeans, but some of the fit is by pure luck. I think she’s scared to admit that when you go plus size (and high end plus size is sometimes size 12 and up)you also lose status and prestige from the industry.
I think she needs to go back the marketing plan board.
Also I don’t feel like she’s deeply committed to this company. B and she are the face. But I don’t feel like she slaving away with the concepts–cause she wouldn’t take a fair question as some type of diss on the street or personal attack.
And this kind of behavior may be her downfall.
Kimora Simmons has a different level of dedication. You can tell she gets up most mornings and goes to the office and is highly engaged in the product offerings. Beyonce shouldn’t be required to do that. But Tina should. And I don’t feel that from her.
86.
hautia
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Grammar, it’s all good.
I was just trying to see if I needed a spell check when I come to this site.
LOL
87.
mizzlizz
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
we know beyonce may take some credit in helping approve the designs, but with tina’s controlling ass you think beyonce would DARE say something about the sizes and GOD FORBID, BE THE 25 YEAR OLD WOMAN SHE IS AND STAND UP FOR HERSELF?
i think not.
88.
trinkywiggy
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Tina is trying to be designer, mother, grandmother,and head of HOD. I think having all these hats are taking a toll. She is trying to be everything to everybody and it is not working. Your kids are grown and one has a kid. Let go Let Flow - Tina. It is time for her to do what she wants to do now.
89.
sesamestreet
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
LOL AND CO-SIGN WITH MIZZLIZZ.
90.
Chloe
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
I remember a while back, there was a story about Foxy Brown wanting to develop a line of expensive furs. I’d like to say that Puffy or Jay (not certain) advised her to design for the masses, not for the elite.
B said that she wanted to design a line for the teens. I pull a pretty nice salary, but I would not say that her line is priced for even me.
I love clothes, but I also love a great deal - I went to the website and wanted to buy a black lace blouse Beyonce was seen wearing on the B Train - but you know what - it was way overpriced.
HOD is not a classic brand, no history, no brilliant coutrier or designer is behind the lines development. C’mon, TINA KNOWLES it the designer? You GET what you pay for. And the public is paying for Tina’s Faboulous talent.
On the other hand, this is a licensed deal. I am a designer, and Iv’e designed tons of crap for other brands. All we do is present what we’ve come up with, and the Licensor sas, yes, yes, no, change this, etc. Tney show up to a meeting, and basically shop for the clothes in their line.
I will pay premium for a brand that I can wear for years, and perhaps send to consignment - but this line belongs in the Brass Plum line for Nordstroms. Overpriced, Overhyped Underdelivered.
Tina is off the hook - She’d eat her young.
91.
sesamestreet
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
LMAO @ 98…IT’S FUNNY I LIVE IN MICHIGAN AND WHEN MARSHALL FIELDS WAS GOING OUT OF BUSINESS THEY HAD HOUSE OF DEREON STUFF ON SALE FOR $10 AND $11 DOLLARS. EVEN LESS THAN THAT. MY SISTER BROUGHT A $400 DOLLAR DRESS FROM THEIR LINE FOR 20 DOLLARS I BULLISH YOU NOT! MAKES ME WONDER, IF YOU CAN GO DOWN THAT LOW FOR A PRICE, WHO THE HELL ARE MAKING THESE CLOTHES AND WHAT THE HELL DOES IT COST TO MAKE THEM. MY GUESS IS CHILDREN IN SWEATSHOPS, AND PENNIES. THAT ALSO LEAVES ME TO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS NO QULITIY WITH THEIR BRAND OF CLOTHING.
92.
sesamestreet
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
LOL OOPS I MEANT 90….
93.
Peacekeeper
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
“First each of you must realize this is not Beyonce’s line. This is Tina’s way of trying to make it big through her daughter.”
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That is very true. I was going to say the same thing. But the thing is Beyonce was to get and take credit for the line to make herself look like she is more than what she is.
94.
jayjay
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
No matter what, Bee will always be INNOCENT in some peoples eyes’…I don’t know but from the time she started out solo, it was a problem,Her head is big, mama head is big…I know Matthew and Jigga is tired of them both.Mama needs some talking too, SHE TALKS TOO MUCH!!!! AND they always using those phrases;
-Oh, it’s beautiful
-It’s so amazing
-It’s three generations of clothing (the most famous)
-We’re so happy , ANd I love my Mama for all her support (and the interview could have been about Popeyes…..)
She always got the same sh^t to say , she needs to FIRE her mother otherwise the mother/ daughter relationship will go sour BEYOND reuniting..They really need to be careful. But yall know Mama Knowles be cursing that butt out..She don’t play with Bee, but she doesn’t realize that Bee is also grown….IT’s sad, their making money and its’ ALL GONE TO THEIR HEADS, they think can’t NOBODY tell them nothing now. Let me ask this, do you think she would have done this if it was an INITIAL interview with Sony Records for Bee? Would they be talking like that? H^ll to the naw(my girl Whitney), but now, she straight, AND CAN”T nobody do sh^t about it, but yet and STILL we got these FANS behind her supporting the NON SENSE….
95.
Dee Dee
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Hey # 91, I own a retail store and I don’t carry this shit, but I can tell you, HOD is getting their money. A consumer might pay $20 for something but before it got to the consumer, the department store paid HOD their required price (which is not $400). What this means, is that retailers will not want to fuck with HOD because they are not getting their money back, forget about a profit.
96.
EsqMrs
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
everyone knows this is tina’s baby but beyonce is suppose to front like she’s HBIC…she probably fooled bey’s dumb ass into thinking its her line as well. when infact it’s not. its hard to B.S. like that. i think tina makes sure she’s at every conference and that she acts like its her line cause she’s the money maker.
honestly its a bootleg jlo line
97.
Ezra
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
I love beyonce so much..but fact is…she cannot express herself throughly . She needs mom their for everything…i believe Beyonce could be her own person…but she feels she has to uphold a perfect image. She’s beautiful and talented and can hold her place in the entertainment biz…..as far as academics…girl needs help.
98.
damshespretty
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Um Um Um this is what I think Um Um. LMAO!
When you give a huge press conference you have to be prepared to answer questions. Easy or hard. You have to take the good with bad. Nobody pushed Tina into the public eye she jumped in rideing off her daughters fame. She got nasty because she got a question that should be answered.
There clothes are not made for black women with big buts. The reason they fit Beyonce is because her but is not that that big. The camera adds 10 pounds. Her but looks big because her waist is so small, her hips is wide. Wide hips is not a big but. That’s why her but looks so flat when she wears pants. That’s why she doesn’t wear pants alot, she knows she doesn’t look good in them.
All women play up there best features. I don’t look good in wide skirts so I only wear pencile skirts. You have to take what you got and make the best of it.
99.
damshespretty
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Um Um Um this is what I think Um Um. LMAO!
When you give a huge press conference you have to be prepared to answer questions. Easy or hard. You have to take the good with bad. Nobody pushed Tina into the public eye she jumped in rideing off her daughters fame. She got nasty because she got a question that should be answered.
There clothes are not made for black women with big buts. The reason they fit Beyonce is because her but is not that that big. The camera adds 10 pounds. Her but looks big because her waist is so small, her hips is wide. Wide hips is not a big but. That’s why her but looks so flat when she wears pants. That’s why she doesn’t wear pants alot, she knows she doesn’t look good in them.
All women play up there best features. I don’t look good in wide skirts so I only wear pencile skirts. You have to take what you got and make the best of it.
100.
DINAD82
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Mama Knowles looks much bigger in this post than she did in the post for the MILK advertisement!
101.
Grammar
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
@ Hautia
Nah, no spell check needed. Honestly, I really could care less about the proper use of grammar on this site. I only wanted to show Sesame Street that while she criticized Beyonce for being inarticulate, Street’s grammar, formation of sentences, and spelling were also not not on point. Typical case of grits calling rice white. Before anyone says anything, I’m definitely not a Beyonce stan.
102.
Mos
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Tina should have clothes to fit larger women because if she walked into Macys herself she wouldnt be able to fit anything on the rack! Beyonce does wear the clothing line but dont get it twisted cause when it comes to award shows she is rockin other designers. They wore it on tour for Destiny Childs last tour but that mess looks like something someone would wear in Mexico to their Los Quince!
103.
sesamestreet
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Thank you for pointing that out “grammar” but, if I can recall..and I can…neither was yours. And you said fat meat wasn’t greasy tsk tsk tsk….well it is grease ball!
104.
sesamestreet
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
LMAO @ MOS!
105.
Diana
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
I have one question. Why do some of your points take 3 paraghraphs? I know school is in but why practice ur essay writing here. Gosh!
106.
Sha
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Beyonce reminds me of a stepford wife. I was went and saw her Thursday. She’s very pretty in person.
107.
Such Magnificence
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
What else is new? I swear Beyonce reminds me of a smarter Jessica Simpson when it comes to her family…she doesn’t say anything crazy but her dad and mom most definitely take control of her career.
BTW Ms.Knowles looks like she bout to cut Beyonce’s ass in that pic!!!! Dag she look evil!
108.
E
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Tina addressed the situation, at the time what she thought was the best way. None of us are walking in their shoes so we can’t honestly say how we would have handled the situation. I can’t imagine the bullshit that they go through in that business on a regular with negative and jealous people who are wishing to see you fail.
I will agree, the interview seemed fake as hell but they probably do so many of the same type of interviews.
109.
BashyBoo
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
IM TIRED OF EVERY TIME A LINK IS PUT UP I HAVE TO WAIT LIKE 2DAYS B4 I CAN DAMN VIEW IT, I CLICKED AND WENT TO THE SITE AND IT JUST SITS THERE BLANK AS HELL, IM VERY IRATE RIGHT ABOUT NOW…
110.
Nefer
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
WHAT’S NEW?
111.
Ne'
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Why is this such a big deal… the reporter got off subject. If you don’t want to answer questions you don’t have to. PERIOD!
112.
jewel13
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Beyonce is a joke. She acts like she’s scared of her mother. She should’ve cut her mom off and answered the question. Tina knows if Bey’s name wasn’t attached to that line, it wouldn’t sell.
Tina needs a fuckin reality check, if Bee hadn’t made it her ass would still be doing hair in Texas. I’m not sure about the way Tina is looking at her in that pic……jealousy maybe?
I cosign #4, Tina’s answers did seem rehearsed.
113.
Shoppaholic504
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
This is clearly a example of how celebrities stamp their name on something and let people down. I don’t buy clothing based on what people say, who affliated with it, or who makes it. I buy clothes based on fit, comfort, and price.
“A customer service issue”??? NAW, I don’t think so. Its the manufacturing of the clothes that concerns the consumers. How the clothing is structured and cut?? Compare The true size of a person and the Dereon size..I bet they run small. Its fine though. Its not made for everybody. Thats why I give Kimora props because she has really looked out for us thicker than a snicker girls…If I choose to wear celeb-influenced clothes…Baby Phat is my first choice. Jeans that is..I’m the type of person who don’t wear outfits…I wear Ensembles. I learn to put many pieces of clothing together to make a look work for you. Roc-a-wear is cool too.
And…Ok..As you all know, Beyonce is a model. She is MUCH smaller now than what she was back in the day. I LOVED THAT BEYONCE. She was cool and a nice size. Yes, she is still humble and respectful…but she is not keeping it real. AND ITS TINA’S FAULT!!!!! Society says you must be smaller…well guess what? Society can kiss my ass!! Pack on the pounds Bee!!! (just about 10lbs)
114.
Why Lawd
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Tina looks like she can’t fit into her own HOD clothing if she got it right off the rack. Also, does anyone notice that from the mouth down, she kinda looks like a bulldog? Like she has the bulldog jowls?
While we can’t say exactly what would’ve happened if we had been in that situation that Tina was in, I think it’s fair to say that many of us have been caught in a situation where someone has asked us a question in a professional setting that has caught us off guard. I do think Tina could’ve handled it much better than that. No one was asking her if they use fur in their line or any other controversial question. It is her line so she should answer for it. She really could’ve given a generic statement about realizing the problem in sizing and working on it.
What has happened to media training people? Is it that the Knowles family just don’t know how to ad-lib gracefully? They just don’t have the skill to improvise?
115.
Sal
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Well I think everyone on this blog needs a big SHUT THE FUCK UP, including myself…and what..
116.
D
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Tina is a bitch! You can look at her and tell she is one
117.
concretestone
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
BRIAN said: “I watched the video and I don’t understand what the big deal is. I don’t think that beyonce should talk about HOD at all, because I really don’t even view it as her clothing line. beyonce is a model. LOL. that line, you can tell, is tina’s baby because she’s the only one that ever really talks about it - you can tell that she’s invested a lot of time and energy into that clothing line.
I don’t blame tina for not wanting to discuss that in the interview, either. *shrug* I don’t really see what beyonce has to do with any of this at all. LOL.”
– umm, exactly WHY SHOULDN’T tina have answered the questioned? it was 1) a fair and reasonable question that ANY decent reperter would have asked and 2)it was the BEST POSSIBLE forum for her to mentioned that the issues with the clothing line would be resolved
– Beyonce has EVERYTHING to do with this. she has always asserted that HOD is her’s and her mother’s and she’s the main face to the product. she’s just sitting there grinning like a fool while her mother, yet again, steps in for her.
**btw, i’m not yelling at you. it’s just my way placing emphasis on certain things**
118.
toohot
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Amen @ 41……
119.
letinian
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
bouncy and mama knowles need to hire people to teach them how to speak to the media…
120.
chacha123
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Well, Bey is very well trained. Yes, it makes her seem unreal and robotic but she’s been getting this training for years. Look at how rehearsed how mom is. Also the “real” Bey is all up in that new album. She is allowed to let go on stage and she does. That’s her release. I’m sure she’s shared her feeling with Jay.
Oh, it was funny how she said the young people want her clothes but can’t afford it. So, I got to try to fit it some teenage size 0 clothes just to be able to afford it because I’m grown and can’t afford HOD. lol!
121.
Tracey
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
phoney phoney, ugh…and love Beyonce tho, damn her momz.
122.
SlimKim
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Tina needs to encourage her daughter to not only look good, and put on a good show, but go to school!! She could really benefit from some higher education-mainly some communication classes. At which time, she could teach her overseer mama a few things too.
123.
concretestone
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
^^^
lol and my spelling and grammar mistakes
124.
Tracey
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
and yeah # 106, she’s very Stepford, i mean she’s the face and her mom is the behind the scenes, it’s her mother’s dream and Beyonce’s celebrity to get it off the floor because no one is really into her clothes if it wasn’t for Beyonce and she doesn’t rock that shit on awards nights like someone said, damn that!! i hate Tina!
125.
Angel
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Mama Knolwes had every right to cut off the interview question. They supposed to be on a positve vibe not a a customer service problem. I love both Bee and Tina and they (tina) had evry right. But tina sometimes scares me i think that shes having some personal problems right now.
126.
Ione
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
The truth about her moms is starting to unfold more and more. Glad Beyonce is the opposite of her mom, however Beyonce needs to start taking more control of her life and soon. You can’t get mad at everyone that ask you questions of guard especially about that dam clothing line. Deal with the subject of the matter and keep it moving whether you’re caught of guard or not! Her reactions make her daughter looks bad.
127.
barbie
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!NOT ANOTHER SELENA TRAGEDY!!!JUDGING FROM THAT PICTURE AND THE WAY “THE JOKER”ACTS & STARES AT THAT CHILE, IS STARTING TO SCARE ME.POOR BEY-SHE’S GONNA HAVE TO “GET A CLUE” AT SOME POINT.
128.
lea
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
bey to busy keepn an eye on riri and jay now she gittin drunk thot she didnt drink bey is showing all signs of low low self esteem tina prolly dont want to speak for bey but wat da hell is bey goin to say wit her giddy azz not a survivor to me more like a self distruct azzhole
129.
Mellymel
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
@#74 LMAO
130.
jscene
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
AND LET ME JUST SAY THIS! YOU WOULD HAVE THOUGHT WITH THEIR BIG ASSES, THAT THE PLUS SIZE LINE WOULD HAVE COME OUT BEFORE ANY OTHER SIZES! REMEMBER THEY WERE SUPPOSE TO MAKE CLOTHES FOR THE CURVY WOMAN.
Why in the world would they choose to put out a clothing line which caters mainly to a smaller percentage of people (thin), the majority of women averages a size 12 in the world; and their asses aren’t small either, so what was their motivation here. On the sales tip and on a personal tip, why do that….i believe they have wanna-be-ittis! Want to be small and accepted amoung the “so-called” elite. Bey didn’t have to lose weight for her role in dreamgirls, they hired her a certain weight and to my knowledge, nobody told her to lose weight, it was her choice, and i believe that was her motivation to “finally” get thin (didn’t quite work but she lost a hell of a lot of weight)…but it just goes to show you people talk out of two sides of their mouths. Bey even said she didn’t always like her body, but when she came out and men congratulated her on her body, then she started saying in every interview “i love my curves.” Then if you love your curves, eat the bread! Bey and Tina want to be loved and accepted among the “thinner” crowd, and just use the “thick” gimmick when it’s popular or advantages to use it for us black people; they’ve got “crossover-ittis”.
And people secretly equate being thin with being more successful and happy too, that’s why anorexia and bulimia is now happening to a lot of black women, where before, this was not our illness.
It just kills me with all these fake ass people saying they like themselves and saying they are secure with their weight, and all they do is stay on diets! All these celebrities that are fat or on the verge of it, always saying they are content, but behind closed doors they be breaking their damn necks to be thin, doing unhealthy stuff. I remember when star jones said on the view that she loves herself and that her doctor says she’s the picture of health, and she even said she could do cartwheels…lying heffa. She was secretly wanting to be thin and model-like! She started dating that gay man, and then she felt she had to be thin to keep him!
And even monique, God knows i love me some monique, but she talks too much about thin people, even when other people arent. She claims being fat effects her career, but she seems to have a better career than a lot of black actress; no, i think this is her personal war! and you can tell this is a point of anguish for her..it’s my belief (and this is my belief) that’s she not happy with herself deep down, and she wishes people would treat all women (fat or thin) the same, but that will never happen in our american society! ever! Monique said she was happy with her weight and she wouldn’t change, yet, when watching her show, her weight went up and down, which told me she was on diets at times..i think when she fails at the diet, then it’s back to “i accept myself.”
i get so tired of these fake people.
131.
doinitwell
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
yea it really wasnt that serious…is she hiding something? just say why it ran small and u will be sure to get bigger sizes to the stores.
that makes bad business and ppl, well companies wont but ur stuff.
they just need to chill and relax and explain.
and y did tina say this interview is supposed to be positive? um what interview is? they point of interviews is to clear stuff up and to basically grill u so what did she expect? everyone is not beyonce ass kissers like tyra and oprah.
they need to really step their game up on interviews and stop sounding like robots
132.
bonbon
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
So it’s a secret that Beyonce doesn’t even have a HS diploma, not even a damn GED? They yanked her ass out of school just when she was learning how to construct sentences.
133.
Lady J
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
LOL @ #105, my goodness I am Co- signning with a capital C. These posts are getting ridiculous as far as the length. Whatever happened to Short, Sweet and To the Point??
134.
HAHA
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
i thought it was necessary because the clothing suppose to fit according to beyonce the curvy women. knowles think they are so perfect when told something wrong with them get offended come on! People are willing to buy the shit tina if the shit do not fit then you losing sales old bitch!
135.
RastaJay
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Mama Knowles always has her daughters back. And why ask those questions when its supposed to be a fun time. She did what any mother would do if they worked so close with their daughters.
Go Mama Knowles
136.
billionheiress
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
i got a pair of HOD shoes frm the fashion closet at my job and they fit really strange. i thought it could have been an isolated thing tho.
i gess not
the clothing probably doesn have some defects but it JUST came out. ive them some time to fix the glitches.
bottom line is people will buy it anyway.
137.
jscene
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
I know, oops, sorry yaw. That was a long as post! Sorry, i’ll try and keep them short and to the point.
138.
Nix
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
yesterday?
wasnt this bitch hungover from london?
lol
dang
anyway i cant listen to clip here at work
but the side look tina is giving bey is like
i know your not articulate but dont fuck up ok
139.
billionheiress
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
brian
beyonce is responsible because her name is also attached to the project. i think there was a very PC PR way to handle that question as opposed to just cutting off the interview. because in the end they still have you on camera looking like a bitch.
140.
too sexy
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
I think the question was fine, the reporter is there to ask questions, even the president , have to answer to questions i’m sure he don’t want to but you have to. its a part of the business everything is not gonna be good, you have to know how to deal with them, i just cant imagine all the cnn shows and all the interviews that people really don’t want to face the questions so why should they not have to, and about beyonce not having to say some thats just pure bull, why is she there then she has put her self in it? dont you think if she had nothing to do with it but you all over it model or not. if you doing an interview with ralph lauren would his models be there? why was she there?
141.
Pam
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Dont nobody wanna wear that shit no way - Who dresses like that - nobody in Chi-Town (unless u @ a Church Concert) Plus that shit is too expensive - Baby Bye - I can do w/out - Thank U & Good nite
142.
LC
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
im glad someone posted this up, my girl just sent it in today cuz she was like see how fake ur beyonce is? to me beyonce giggled wen da lady asked da question and i think they had da right to ask those questions. beyonce although i love her needs to understanad dat not everyone looks like her. she has a 4 inch small waste n curves so most clothes fit her perfectly but most “curvy women” who they say they are making those clothes for dont have dat waste size as her. Tina did have da right to get offended but da thing is they are rushin the line so its only half way there, they should have taken another year or two at least to make sure everythin in on point…including the sizes lol
143.
chillin in ny
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Okay the bottom line is if you are a celebrity and you use your image to advertise and sell products you need to be prepared for the Good and the Bad.
What Tina has to realize is that not everyone is going to like your daughter and unless you’re PAYING that reporter to do an advertisement for you, she has no obligation to ask you soft ball questions.
You own a company — your company has products that are unsatisfactory –– retailers have complained to you and received no assistance –– your doing an interview in the town where the retailers have complained about your company —- sooooo why is this question out of order? All she had to do is give an “I’m not prepared to discuss that” and keep it moving. It’s so obnoxious the way they think everyone should be kissing their a**.
144.
foxxy380
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
WTF? Ok. Now I see why Bey is so dumb. Because her mom is as dumb as she is. If she didn’t want to answer the question, why not say so intelligently and ask the interviewer to move on to the next question? Because you are embarrassed as hell and don’t know what to say because you got caught in a lie. FAKE A$$E$!!!
145.
LEAUMONT
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
BEY IS DUMB AS FUCK NO BACKBONE, THAT BITCH LET HER MOTHER COVER HER ASS ALL THE DAMN TIME, AND MAMA KNOWLES NEEDS TO SIT DOWN AND BE A GRANDMOTHER AND AMOTHER, I’M BOUT SICK OF HER, LET ME FIND OUT SHE CAN’T MEASURE..LOL! HOUSE OF DEREON IS A HOUSE OF SHIT…lol!
146.
LEAUMONT
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
BEY NEEDS TO BE SOMEWHERE PROMOTING THAT DAMN BDAY GARBAGE ASS ALBUM
147.
...SayIt
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
On Oprah didn’t they say the sizes went up to 10 or 12? Well Whatever it’s always an issue but I agree with u Samantha that would have been right on target, eventhough it was a Clothing Line Launch, & normally those type of issues’s aren’t addressed, They could have said that they were aware of the problem, & are on top of fixin it & Kept it movin, instead Tina acts like a bitch, & B like a girl with no voice. B needs to be more vocal, & Mama Knowles needs to calm down actin like she was so offended, cuz they surprised her ass with that statement
148.
...SayIt
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
@ LC a 4 inch waist Are u sure about that?
149.
hmm
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
I’m trying to figure out why her mom wears HOD when she knows those damn clothes don’t come in her size. They are full of it!
150.
Kaylee
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
I’ve always said that B wasn’t real. She carries herself great in the eyes of the media but that’s not who she really is. And Tina has to constantly be there to battle the hard questions and put people in their place because Beyonce can’t do it for herself…HOD is not for every woman…Hell even Tina had to lose weight to get in it! And it’s weird because you rarely see them wearing it. I’m so sick of the two of them…It’s overkill now.
151.
Tina-Owns-Your-Soul
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Damn B will always be a hot topic. Tina is a beotch!
152.
neesh
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Damn, Mrs. Knowles is freakin fool for real. If the damn clothes run small, then widen that mess up. Everybody doesn’t have a flat chest, no hips, ect. She should’ve made the stuff to fit all shapes and sizes. Don’t get a damn attitude cause they busted you out on the air!
153.
SUGA BUGA
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
just letting you know, you can get HOD clothes off of ebay for cheap. I was going to get a shirt and a hat and a pair of jeans. Then I said, naw, Im not supporting mama knowles in any way.
154.
SUGA BUGA
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
I think its HILARIOUS that this was kept and is being shown around, stupid mama knowles, go back to doing hair you evil huzy!!
155.
just lurking
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
I usually just read I don’t post but I had to say this to Grammar please shut the hell up. Nobody wants to hear your your english lessons.
156.
SUGA BUGA
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Does anyone know what Beyonces measurements are. I would love to know. Or at least what size she is.??
cause she always says that she is wearing something from HOD but how can she if it only fits small people.
157.
JanetDupree'sBaby
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
@#7 Samantha:
That would have been the perfect response. DO NOT GO INTO BUSINESS IF YOU LACK BASIC CUSTOMER SERVICE/RELATIONS SKILLS.
158.
Natty
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
From what I hear, Beyonce has no butt. Her former hairstylist is pissed about being fired and said that he would expose her. He claims that Michelle has a bigger butt than Beyonce. He claims that they specially pad her butt and that they intentionally make her wear low riding pants because it gives the illusion that she has a butt. In that case it would be possible for the jeans to fit her.
I thought the hairdresser lied but when I look back on old Destiny Child videos, her butt doesn’t look big at all.
I have seen some interviews where she’s stated that she wants to be a smaller size, but yet she talks about the greatness of being curvy. I think she is confused b/c she is confusing me and that is very hard to do.
159.
brownsugah305
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Cosign with # 28 and #7.
Beyonce needs to really step out and away from her parents and grow a back bone. This is the second time that I have heard of that her mother has intervened when it was clearly an issue for Beyonce to handle. ACT LIKE YOU ARE 25!!!!
160.
jchil
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
I think that they need to stop be nice and go off on those media jerks. Then I bet they will not get disrespected anymore.
161.
PoeticMD
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
If you developed the line, why not talk about the mishaps…yet your promoting such so-called perishable clothing( dont get wrong, they are very unique) but your the designer(you talk about those these types of situation and how u can prevent them)….this interview kinda of reminds me of a Bush interview…you cant answer the question because your that “uneducated” about what you produced….
162.
James
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
lmao Mama knowles forgot to memorize her lines.
163.
DAMIEN
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
#15 Truer words have never been spoken! Will the real Be-not-say please stand up…with a chicken wing in ya hand?
I predict Bey will rebel in about a year or two. She may go get pregnant, elope with J, stop singing altogether, write a tell-all book or something else but she will rebel. I agree that the girl can’t interview to save her life. If you ask her about her album she starts to talk about J. If you ask her about her fans she may start talking about chicken. Maybe if she sits down somewhere and regroup she will be alright. The House of Dere-NOT get no respect in the fashion industry. Its disrespectful to call your line The House of anything if you haven’t paid your dues. Its reserved for the likes of Chanel, Gucci, Valentino or Vionnet (along those lines). Bey-Tina, go thataway—->
164.
diamond
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
as a fashion major, i can explain the whole error in the clothing ordeal:
in a sense, Mama Crypt wouldnt have control over the sizing, more or less its the folk that handles the whole production of the clothes. 10 times out of 10 (haha, yeah) they had them clothes sewn over there in china. and like anything, the clothes in the production got screwed and nobody double checked the outfits.
and if and when they DID checked it (the folks who handles HOD production)..when they confronted the asians about it, them asians over the slaved asians sewing it prolly cussed the HOD folk out telling them that there’s nothing wrong with the clothes and to deal with it (cuz alot of them put more of the blame on the creator, NOT the sewing production line).. after all, house of dereon and them are only being charged $5 per outfit made (YES thats how cheap an outfit can run through production in 3rd world countries, same with shoes)
so yeah, mama crypt couldve easily said “i will have my people look more into it and fix this ASAP” instead she wanted the news to edit her and made her seem like this HOD stuff is the new black..
165.
Will
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
3 Points:
Why does Beyonce say that Derion is a “lower line”. That’s insulting your own product. She should call it an alternate line, or a line that sells quality garments at a lower price point, etc.
Somebody needs to tell Tina that interviews aren’t free commercials. If she does not want to answer all the questions asked just do one of those info-mercials like George Foreman
Tina is an evil bitch, I can see it in her pulled back face.
166.
sesamestreet
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
LMAO@ WILL…I did notice she said “lower line” I was like wtf??? The woman clearly needs an education, along with her mommy. I don’t think Solange is that bad, she had time to brush up on her education when she was pregnant.
167.
Will
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
#163.
Many good points. I only wish there were someway to get these comments to Beyonce.
I know people hate when you compare B and Janet, but Janet was 18 when she fired her dad. When will B, for a lack of a better phrase “grow some balls”?
168.
Tianna
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
ROFL!!! Tina cracks me up yo
I mean, I don’t see the big deal. They could’ve handled it professionally and answered in a very professional and eloquent manner. But Tina don’t know how to do that lol
169.
kuliokat
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
i have to admit that i had the same probs with her fakeness, until i listened to her interview with angie martinez and watched her on the tyra banks show. we expect TOO much from her, shes still young, give her time to grow.
im SO SICK of her whole family, they are all OVEREXPOSED, they need to take a backseat sometimes. i think mathews time is about up, solange cant sing, tina’s clothes are only suitable if and only if you wnat to LOOK OLD!!beyonce needs to get PERSONAL and put out some QUALITY music that is a true reflection of herself and not DEENA!!!
170.
DAMIEN
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Bey-not-think’s album is for young teens, I mean really, who says Kitty Kat and Freakum’ Dress but little girls? And what do you mean give her time to grow? The broad is 25 years old. That’s the time to finish growing and get on with life.
@ Will, trust me when I say that Be-Tina has folk on these blogs everyday coming back with a full report…TRUST
171.
Tyron
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Beyonce had nothing to do with the fact that her mother got upset with the situation. I think Beyonce would have answered the question if her mother didn’t go off. Also people mess up with interviews all the time. you are suppose to go over the questions the press can ask you and what they cant before you have the interview. If you mess up you can shoot it again. This is show business. Everything is planned.
172.
DAMIEN
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
@169
To whom much is given, much is expected.
173.
DAMIEN
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
@171
Ok you really didn’t mean, “Beyonce would have answered the question” right? You know Be-not-say can’t speak a lick. She probably would’ve answered with, “Yeah me and Jay collaborated on the whole album.” Lmbao!
174.
KARLA
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
WE SHOULD ALL KNOW BY NOW THAT MS.TINA IS A NASTY BITCH. WHAT THE FUCK WAS ALL THAT STARTING OVER SHIT…FAKE ASS BITCH!! IF SHE CAN’T ANSWER QUESTION JUST PUT THE SHIT IN THE STORE AND TAKE YOUR DAMN CHANCES. I WOULDN’T BUY IT JUST BECAUSE IT’S A KNOWLES CREATION. I AIN’T TRYING TO MAKE THEM RICHER THAN THEY ALREADY ARE.YOU CAN’T ASK THEM A SIMPLE FUCKING QUESTION. NOBODY OWES THEM SHIT,BESIDES THEY AIN’T BROKE…DON’T BUY THAT SHIT!!!FUCK YOU TINA YOU FAKE ASS BITCH!
175.
KARLA
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
#3 CUSTOMER SERVICE ISSUE…SOMEBODY’ FUCKIN LOST HERE AND IT AIN’T ME!!! WTF???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
176.
???
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
@ 143
You took the words right outta my mouth. The Knowles clan need to wake the hell up and understand that not everyone is so in love with Bey that they will always sugarcoat questions for them. They are lucky as hell no one brought up the use of fur in their line or even questions on where exactly HOD is manufactured.
177.
itzzzkimmm
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
omg Beyonce is so dependent of her mom. I mean c’mon you’re a grown woman, stand up for yourself. Tina Knowles is so annoying. I swear, she needs to stop coddling her daughter… let her speak for herself.
178.
Ms. Lady
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Tina is the epitome of the term ’stage mom’.
179.
Nick
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
lol i dont know what to say.
180.
Justina
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
I agree that Mrs. Knowles could have said “we’re working on that right now” with a smile.. But at the same time, we don’t know what they deal with on a daily basis… and Mrs. Knowles might have been trying to have a happy moment and the reporter just messed it up so she had to respond in a negative way.. that’s my thought on that cause their’s no other reason why she had to do all that.
I think Beyonce is just not the confrontational type. She looked uncomfortable in that moment and it reminds me of when I was youngER and my Mom used to cus people out in public. IT WAS EMBARRASSING!!!!!!
181.
Chick
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
I have to say this.
High end fashion is for rich white women. She doesnt want larger black women wearing the clothes. Then the rich white women wont want to pay the high prices.
A lot of designers make their clothes smaller so that fat girls cant wear them. Keep in mind that fat is a size 8.
182.
lamorenaenkobe
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Tina’s response was unnecessary and completely UNPROFESSIONAL. She looked GUILTY as all hell by not wanting to answer a simple question. Just say that you’re looking into it and the problem will be fixed, blah blah, and move on.
She looked like the wicked witch of the South. And Beyonce looked like a smiling blow up doll.
PLEASE get a publicist and some media training before you go to interviews and make yourself look like an ass!
Another nail in the coffin of HouseofDeadWrong….
183.
Dannie
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Dingy ass Tina & Beyonce…wow!
184.
Diana
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
I mean MRS. Knowles is obviously not educated enough. I guess that’s y she did not put an emphasis on education for her kids. When she seen B all she seen was a gold mine. One day B is gonna have one of those Mcdonald’s Coffees and wake up. B: “Mama I just realized that you talk to damn much”
185.
akamissj
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
LOL That girl’s mama is something else! She don’t play! She is quick to get an attitude. And I love Bee but she’s really starting to annoy me. Why doesn’t she ever speak up for herself? I’m close with my mother too, she’s one of my best friends, but I still I have the ability to hold my own in a conversation when’s she’s around. I’m not a brand name clothes wearer anyway, but if they’re really not going above a size 8 I know I won’tbe buying any of their clothes.
186.
satirical7
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
GEEZ people, lest we not forget that celebrity or not they are imperfect human beings just like the rest of us. You wonder why she acts “FAKE” all the time, but it’s people like the ones on this post who call her MAMA all kinds of BIOTCHES and names. NO matter what she does people will have something to say, If she dpeaks out, she’ll be trying act hood and she from the suburbs. If she acts polished, she’s fake. SHe can’t win. And If I were her I wouldn’t even try. GIVE IT A REST PEOPLE
187.
hmm
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
@ 181
Well that’s a problem when Mrs. Tina is NOT a size 8. As a designer you should make clothes that fit you as well.
188.
devilicious
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
She said the interview should be positive. Come on now, this is press, positive is boring, She dont know that?
189.
Nat
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
first of all house of dereon is whack! have u seen their prices? they are ridiculous, her line is so damn expensive. she always stated that her clothing will fit bigger or more volumptous women, but i clearly don’t see it. She needs to start talking up for her self, i think beyonce has no god damn sense just an air head with weave!
190.
blah blah blah
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
@ #37, Beyonce and Tina has a professional designer assisting them with the clothing line. Therefore the measurements should be perfect to a t. However, that isn’t my issue with the Knowles family, my issue with them is that Beyonce never has the opportunity to speak for herself during any interview. Her mother is always there defending her, even when it isn’t necessary. If Beyonce can hire an acting coach for Dream Girls, she sure as hell can hire a speech coach to teach her how to articulate.
191.
Nat
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
beyonce has a lot to learn from kimora lee simmons! because Babyphat line is off the hook and they are affordable! even JLO. like come on beyonce i ain’t gonna lie the clothes are nice but damn i ain’t paying $160 for a fucking pair of jeans! thats sad.
192.
juslistenpleez
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Okay, so I’ve been at work all day and was unable to watch the video, but I did read all the comments. Now that I have seen it (I’m home now), all I can say is “Wow!!” This uneventful interview is what caused all the hoopla??? I was think Mama Tina was ready to slap a b*tch the way some of y’all were going on! lol. Everybody is all up in arms, TYPING IN ALL CAPS, for nothing!
193.
juslistenpleez
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
**thinking
194.
LC
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
look at what i found, i think some people ae out to get beyonce. i personaly dont think its true because its obviuous dat her stomach is like this from her ups and downs weight.
BEYONCE GOT LIPO? SAY WHAT?!
So our favorite diva Beyonce ain’t all what she says she is…at least according to Mediatakeout.com.The site offers an explanation for all the loose skin around Beyonce’s tummy…LIPOSUCTION! (gasp)Ohhh…say it ain’t so, all this time I thought she really went on a water diet. AWWWW…man!
195.
huh???
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH …..HAHAHA :::COUGH COUGH:::: WHOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!! Beyonce mama got called out !!! dang then gone get mad cus the lady aint askin the questions she want her to!!
196.
Damien
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
For those of you that said BeDUMBce has nothing to do with the clothing line you’re wrong. The caption clearly states Beyonce’s clothing line. For the comment a few notches above, we don’t expect any celeb to be perfect but when you perpetrate like you are than that will be expected of you. NOne of the posters here claimed to be perfect so what does calling Bey and Tina a beotch has to do with anything. Stick to the subject and…peace be still.
I just caught the end of the Tyra show with BeTina on there and Tina just boguarded the whole damn interview. For some reason I am getting the Bey wants to explode and be who she really is. And why in the hell is there a HOD and a Dereon line? Did they run outta names or something?
197.
BJ
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
OK, Brian, it sounds like you are trying too hard. Even the most die hard Beyonce fan has to admit that she is the face of the clothing line, and as such should also have a voice. Her mother’s response was personal while the reporter was being professional and asking the questions a reporter is supposed to ask. Once again, Beyonce is not GOD, she is subject to the same questions any other designer or face of a clothing line is.
198.
stinka
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
mama knowles even shut down Oprah when she asked about the sizing… The core audience Beyonce attracts cannot fit that stuff. I think it was a legitimate comment.
199.
Damien
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Mama Gnome betta slow here role. She is no match for the Big O!
200.
niaja101
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
i dont understand beyonce i wonder how come she cant take up for herself i mean she is OLD enough. I like beyonce only for her talent but at times her personality is so dull and weak it makesher look so boring i dont kno i just hope she get it together one day.
201.
PLEEZE!!!
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
I co-sign #24 Baily!!!! I am so glad you all are finally seeing that Beyonce is Pretty and Dumb!!! She isn’t very smart, but you don’t really have to be!!! Just get media training!!! If she can cut an entire album without telling her parents, she can pay for her own media training without letting anyone know about it!!!
And whoever said Jigga wouldn’t be with someone so dumb forgot that OPPOSITS attract!!! He is ugly but very smart, she is beautiful but not so smart!! Bottom line!!!!
202.
giselle
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
“where would she be with out her mama” you ask. Where the hell would you be without your mother? ~Ignorant~
#1- If you are introducing something that you personally have put time and effort into, why would you portray it in a negative light off the back.
Mama Tina has every right to protect herself and her daughter. Beyonce may seem fake because everytime you see her she says the same thing, if she was inconsisten yall would be jumping on that. I mean damn how is knowing “the real B” gon help yall. yall just want be up in people business so you can scrutinize them even more. And yall keep tlking about how boring and fake, and dumb she is. Yall act like you be sitting right between her legs evrey where she goes, 24 hrs. a day. The fact is you people buy into anything. Just cause people seem “real” don’t mean they are. People will portray any character or persona for a dollar. So how do you know whats real. Yall think yall know all about beyonce cause you see her on tv, or read an interview.
#2- You all don’t understand if you give the media an inch, they’ll take a foot. Feel Me? Answering a question like that could have let to the bombardment of questions pertaining to the sizing issue, thus making the whole interview about a problem.
#3- Has anyone stop to think, that maybe she was not aware of the sizing issue up until that point.
#4- The line is sized from 0-12 or 14. They plan to bring out plus sizes later on. Thay said so on oprah.
F.Y.I. $120 is affordable compared to real couture fashions that cost $500 for some jeans.
#5- Just cause something is marked down in a store does not mean it is cheap, after the merchandise is sold to the store. we have nothing to do with the price. That’s why you see on most tags where it says “Manufacture’s suggested retail price”.
#6- Also mama tina is not only trying to appeal to b’s fans but also try to start a real fashion line. To rank with the likes of names yall never even heard of. High Fashion brands. I know yall only know about stuff like armani, fendi, coach, and louis vuitton cause thats all black celebrities talk about. And those are the boot-legg version yall buy. But real couture fashion does not come in anything about a 10 a the very most. Just like shoes and bras and panties. All the fashionable stuff comes in small sizes. So stop tripping!
And last but not least. Hateration is a disease, so get cured!
203.
Ms.Lauren
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
I hope one day we get to see Beyonce speak and think on her own without her familie’s input! Maybe then I will like her a lot more.
204.
Thandi
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
to 185, I am wit you on that, at B’s age, honey you gots to speak up for yourself and cant have your momma on your back holding down ALWAYS!!!!!! Otherwise gurl its ova, Moma got to be there always, makes me wonder , when is Mama NOT there, get my drift……. London, anybody?
205.
Asentha
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
I think the report’s question was legitimate. Tina handled it all wrong. All she had to say was that they were addressing the issue of sizing, and that they want their line to fit and flatter women of all shapes! Nuff said. Lose the attitude! Tina looks really evil at times, and Beyonce should learn to speak up!
206.
mizbhaven
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Sooooo let me get this straight.. they were doing this interview for this overpriced crap.. yet no one was allowed to ask questions about the clothes??
207.
Damien
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
See Bill, I told you Be-Tina has peeps on the Loop here to straighten us out..lol. Anyway, what kind of designer are you if you don’t know your product? You have to be aware of the sizes. If she was unaware of the sizes she wouldn’t have told O that they will be bringing plus sizes later on. Yeah right she didn’t know the sizes. IF she was tryna’ be all high fashion then she wouldn’t try to make plus size clothes to begin with? Don’t underestimate us black folk. We do know other designers, at least I do. And being “affordable” and “couture” are two different things. And babes, couture jeans aren’t $150. They are a bit more than that.
208.
mr. quite frankly
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
dereon is not made for the obese. the clothing provides a higher rise in the back to create an ample bottom for the ladies lacking a nice posterior. the jeans do what they purport but nothing is crafted for everyone in mind. most clothing is made from a form and in this instance, if you’re cokebottle shaped as Bey or how Chaka Khan used to be then this line of clothing will work for you. its similar to just like the ass has to fit into apple bottoms, not sure who wears them, to look right.
As far as interview etiquette ppl make mistakes… but i don’t see the same disrespect for keyshia’s, dmx, hell 99% of rappers ignant interviews. some topics are actually scripted in interviews due to high volume artists face and candid or frankness is truly unexpected as is the case of this one held at the old marshall field’s here in chicago.
apologies for the essay. just a fluid thought.
209.
Ms1derful
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
They both sound like morons. They are SO unarticulate…they cant even speak. Beyonce’ sounds dumb like her mother. Its just something about the both of them that doesnt seem so smart.
210.
natalia
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
That was a valid question that I would have appreciated the answer to. I went to get a pair and tried on TWO sizes BIGGER than my own size and they STILL didn’t fit.
Before I even tried them on the fitting room lady told me that everyone who tried them on said they didn’t fit well.
There was nothing negative about her asking her that question.
211.
Sizzle
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Tina really needs to go sit her overly involved behind down somewhere!!
212.
STOP
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
HATING!!!!!
213.
darlena
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
Some of you OBBBviously dont know the game. Be is letting mama Knowles answer questions to take the heat off of her ! So no one can factually SAY Beyonce’ said or see on tape, Beyonce’ saying yada yada yada. It’s a smart move. People will not clobber her mom b/c her mom is NOT the star. So mama Knowles place ppl in their place w/o Be being blamed ! Dang ! Some of you get a CLLLL - EW !
I ‘m with #2. That was sooooo tacky and tasteless. It wasnt even a valid point. Why would you bring that up in an interview ?
Truly CLASSLESS !
214.
Mara
Friday, September 29, 2006 /
I agree w/Samantha’s comment..Beyonce & her mother could of definately cleaned up the situation a little better than they did. They both need some interview training..lol, they were scrambling! And Beyonce is not a tiny person so why are the clothes so tiny! Omg, they are definately not true to size lol!
215.
Damien
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
@213
Who cares if her mother answers or not the wrath will still fall on Beyonce, as you can plainly see the example right now, so Sweeets it wasn’t a strategy at all or as you call it “smart”.
And it was a valid point as you can see even people on the post/blog wishes to know the answer to that question. And it was “not” smart to stop the whole interview. It makes one seem unprepared and totally incompetant.
216.
Auri
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
I’m not very impressed with the HOD line…I wear a size 11 and from reading these reviews probably wouldn’t fit into any of their clothes.I’ll stick to Baby Phat.I think Tina should have addressed the sizing issue.
217.
soulchild
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
ALOT OF PEOPLE ON THE CL CANT TALK ABOUT ANYONE’S SPEECH. CUZ ALOT OF YALL VOCAB IS LIMITED TO CUSSING!
TRUTH, YES IT HURTS.
218.
monique
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
BOTTOM LINE, BEYONCE MAKE SOME CLOTHES THAT A SISTA SIZE 16 CAN FIT!! damn…..
219.
DelawareDime21
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
THE ONLY REASON Y TINA GOT MAD AT THE INTERVIEWER IS BC SHE DIDNT REHEARSE FOR THAT QUESTION AND SHE DIDINT AVE A DISTINGUISHED LEGITIMATE ANSWER!HOW IS THAT BEING NEGATIVE? THE INTERVIEWER IS STICKING TO THE POINT AND ADDRESSING THE “MADE FOR EVERYONE” THEORY, SHE JUST WANTED THEM TO KNOW THAT PEOPLE LIKE THEIR CLOTHES SO IF THEY ARE MAKING IT FOR EVERYONE JUST INCREASE THE FIT SO MORE PPL CAN WEAR IT AND ULTIMATELY THEY WILL MAKE MORE MONEY!DUH! AND BEYONCE JUST LAUGHED,I LIKE B AND EVERYTHING BUT SOMETHING IS OFF ABOUT HER.THEY EXPECT PPL TO KISS THEIR ASS ALL THE TIME BUT THIS IS THE REAL WORLD PPL WANNA NO MORE THAN THE REHEARSED REDUNDANT SHIT THAT COMES OUT OF THEIR MOUTHS EVERYTIME THEY DO AN INTERVIEW. WHY DO THEY EVEN DO INTERVIEWS? THEY SAY THE SAME SHIT..
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Damien
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
I will say something positive though. I actually think the HOD that Bey wears is kinda nice. It doesn’t look like the same gear she’s advertising but it is nice.
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HotMama
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
To those who think asking about sizing discrepencies during an interview about the clothing line, and the new in-store opening at a large prominant retailer is out of line is just crazy! Consumers need to be aware of what they’re buying. I’m from Chicago and the reporter is a good well respect reporter whom i’m sure harbored no ill will when she attempted to get answers regarding the sizing issues.
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Cheezits
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
Those 2 are FAB as in Fake Ass Bitches.
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Mark (South Side Chi)
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
Beyonce is one fine ass DUMMY. She might be dumb as hell, but damn she fine.
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creole_cherry
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
WELL IT’S OBVIOUS THAT SOME HASN’T VIEWED IT FROM A INTERVIEW STAND POINT…
IT WAS AN INTERVIEW- GET IT? WHICH MEANS THEY WERE PUTTING ON A PRESENTATION. MANY IF NOT ALL OF US HERE HAS BEEN ON A JOB INTERVIEW, AND INTERVIEWS ARE MOSTLY FAKE, SO FOR THEM TO CORRECT THINGS IS NORMAL. THAT IS TINA’S CAREER, A CAREER INTERVIEW MEANS MUCH MORE THAN A JOB INTERVIEW SHE HAS ALOT TO LOSE IVE BEEN IN RETAIL AND IM IN FASHION, THAT IS A PROBLEM FOR HER WAREHOUSE TO FIX- HER, DISTRIBUTORS, STORES, AND WAREHOUSE, AND A FEW ETC. MUST FIX THIS MECHANDISE/ CUSTOMER SERVICE ISSUE, YEA SHE COULDVE HANDLED IT MUCH BETTER,
BASICALLY SHE SCREWED UP HER INTERVIEW WITH US EMPLOYERS, BUT THE REPORTER SHOULD NOT HAVE ASK THAT QUESTION THE WAY THAT SHE DID, SHE COULDVE STATED IT MUCH MORE PROFESSIONALLY, WHICH COULDVE MADE TINA MORE COMFORTABLE AND SHE WOULDVE NOT ONLY ANSWERED HER, BUT ALSO WITHOUT THE REPORTER EVEN HAVING TO ASK THE QUESTION.
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Damien
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
I’m sorry @224 but what is a suggestive way to ask that question “more professionally”?
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fr3shkix
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
I THINK TINA GOT DEFENSIVE CAUSE SHE THROUGHT THE REPORTER WAS TRYNA START SHIT…I MEAN SHE COULDA HANDLED IT BETTER …BET SHE EVEN LAUGHED WHEN SHE WAS TLKIN I DONT THINK SHE ACTED LIKE A BITCH…SHE JUST SEEMED ANTSY ABOUT IT…IT’S BEING BLOWN OUT OF PROPORTION…
DON’T SEE WHY ERRYONES TALKIN BOUT BEYONCE THIS BEYONCE THAT…SOME PEOPLE JUST HAVE THAT KIND OF PERSONALITY AND ARE NOT CONFRONTATIONAL. DOESN’T MEANS YOU’RE DUMB. INFACT HALF OF THE PPL THROWIN STONES ON CL CAN BARELY CONSTRUCT A SENTENCE, LET ALONE ANSWER A SIMPLE QUESTION WITH MAD CAMERAS FLASHING WHILE DEALING WITH THE PRESSURE OF YOUR EVERY WORD BEING RIPPERD APART.
NOT EVERYONE CAN HANDLE THAT PRESSURE…AND I DONT SEE WHY PEOPLE KEEP SAYIN BEYONCE’S MOM WENT TO BATTLE FOR HER,I MEAN WHO WAS THE QUESTION DIRECTED TO ANYWAY?
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brooklynbabydoll
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
I cant fathom how Bee can actually write a whole album all by herself in 2 weeks but cant form a complete sentence on her own
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brooklynbabydoll
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
Dang I was going to try to at least support the dereon line but since beyonce said whatever she said about the more affordable clothes, i think i’ll pass on the embarrassment of wearing “a LOWER line thats made for teens especially”, wuteva!
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babyphatgirl
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
It was kind of humorous how tina pointed to beyonce when the reporter asked the second question. It seemed as if she was saying “Ok go on and say your lines beyonce, we just got finished rehearsing this answer so I know u can handle this one by yourself!”
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afro jamaicano
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
#2 she is evil!
man beyonce needs to grow a dik and stand out on her own! other peeps dun hav their mum to do all the shih for them
those entire interview was bootleg, the volume was horrible, beyonce’s mom did all the talking and came out the gate being nasty.
these bitches clothes are hitting on shit man im starting to get annoyed by beyonce’s old drunk ass andher overbearing parents
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creole_cherry
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
well DAMIEN she couldve STATED( REMEMBER I SAID STATED- INSTEAD OF HER ASKING A QUESTION, BUT IF YOU WANT A QUESTION TIED INTO IT…)
- MRS. KNOWLES, RECENTLY THERE HAVE BEEN REPORTS THAT THERE WERE A FEW WAREHOUSE AND FITTING PROBLEMS WITH YOUR MECHANDISE, HOW ARE YOUR SOLUTIONS CONCLUDING?
OR IF YOU LIKE DAMIEN YOU CAN USE THE WORDS: FINISHING,POLISHING, FINALIZING… ETC.
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creole_cherry
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
CORRECTION ON *MERCHANDISE
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justhinkin
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
The Knowles were just so busy grooming her for fame, they forgot to send that girl to school. She may be beautiful, sexy but she needs to go back to school. Her vocabulary is very limited: BILLS, BILLS, BILLS; NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. And I see she has a new word: Amazing. It used to be Crazy. I just wish other talents had the same opportunities she has to mix it up a bit. I call that family Pinky and The Brain and Beyonce. They really want to take over the world. Sexy is good, but after the sex and we get up, we need to be able to relate to each other and have some conversation using more words than crazy and amazing. Tina stopped the interview because Tina CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH. That’s typical for the Knowleses. If they don’t like what you’re saying, they cut you off.
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justhinkin
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
thank you #55. shtank you berry much!!!
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creole_cherry
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
ROLMFAO@ JUSTHINKIN! YOURE GONNA MAKE ME PISS MY PANTS @ GOING BACK TO SCHOOL
ALL IM SAYING IS YEA TINA AND B WAS WRONG, BUT THE REPORTER WAS TOO, ALL OF THEM WERE TO BLAME, HAD THE REPORTER HAVE HER BUSINESS RIGHT, SHE COULDVE GOTTEN TINA TO CONFESS ALL KINDS OF THINGS BUT NOOOOOO SHE JUST HAD TO SCREW IT UP AND LOST HER INTERVIEW WITH THEM… ID FIRE HER AND FIND SOMEONE WHO COULD CHARM THE COUTURE OFF TINA
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justhinkin
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
See? That’s the problem I have with B and her machine. It’s all propaganda. We, the public, are supposed to just swallow B no matter when and how she’s served because cuz they been working with her since she’s 10? Not knocking her hustle, but the Bs propaganda machine is always in overdrive. It comes off as so fake and for every fan she acquires, she loses one with that shit! Keep it real. Some folk just don’t want to around looking overdone and over the top all the time. That’s what I think of their line. Over done and over the top, too small and too expensive for the average. JLo did the damn thing. Everybody was wearing her clothes.
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creole_cherry
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
i love jlo clothes, just not the skining of the animals
http://www.jlodown.com
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creole_cherry
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
but anything not “high end” or “high fashion” fur or skin, ill wear. dont watch it if u have a weak stomach i just started crying, cuz i imagined if they did that to children and humans, watch this world get so desperate for “high end” humans are going to start skining themselves.
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justhinkin
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
I don’t think the interviewer was out of line. It was timely. They were IN the store where the complaint was first lodged. They weren’t ambushed like the PETA people did. They just need to quit lying. This line is not for run of the mill everyday fan. This is for the fan with money. Unlike BabyPhat, they need to know that the public is not some dummy you can feed everything. She needs to tell her fans, her younger fans, her teen fans that if they need affordable clothing, they need to check BabyPhat, AppleBottoms or J-Lo. Otherwise, just say it’s an upscale line. Shoot, I want to know who’s wearing this line anyway? If you are wearing this line, let a sista know. I didn’t say OWN A PIECE, I say wearing the line!! Inquiring minds wanna know.
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justhinkin
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
My last comment: When is Solange gonna get equal time with her parents. I would love to know how she really feels about her parents putting all their efforts into one sister and the other sister gets no play. Maybe that’s why she felt she needed a baby so young. She’s got something that B doesn’t have. Can the sister get some equal time? Has anyone ever seen Tina or Matt on an interview with Solange? I mean, other than the Wal-mart commercial?
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creole_cherry
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
oh i hear you, jlo suppose to be some kind of ultimate diva but her stuff is afordable and b stuff is not for rich fans its for celebs, thats what it seems like to me
poor solange, i dont care what anyone says i know theres a part of her that hurts cuz of that
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justhinkin
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
Whoops, sorry, I lied >. Daniel Boone wore fur. Man could have never withstood the elements without fur, especially when they came to this country from across the pond. But trust me, fur wasn’t a problem when only WHITE MEN with their cheating asses would buy them for their wives and/or mistresses. Remember Hollywood in its heyday? Everyone wore fur. Shoot, even little black women used to wear fur stoles to church. As soon as women started working and started buying things for themselves that only a man used to be able to provide — like furs — then wearing fur became an issue. However, they still don’t have a problem exploiting African people to get at the diamonds for the bling.
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simplyTHEtruth
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
With as much money as their clothes cost she should have let me called in and asked a question,you can’t play when people are paying that kind of money. I dont know Tina got this mental thing going on and Bee she is just as lost half the time and WHY is Tina acting like she only have one DAUGHTER? I dont think it was fair not to include the other daughter but I think (my opinion) that the clothes are ugly as hell looks like something Dolly Parton (country singer)would wear or someone thats 50 yoa
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simplyTHEtruth
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
And most of the time if something is marked down real low in the store means nobody wanted to buy the shit!!!! They start with a sale, then mark down, then they just give the shit away
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Rana
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
Her mum does look n sound mean and rude.
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Valee
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
I think, with the amount of time and work that was put into the line, it’s fair to ask for that amount of money. You can’t compare jlo’s stuff to HOD. As for the size thing, you can’t blame her for the sizes. Sure she said she would make sizes for the full figured woman, but how full figured are the women who are complaining? It was Tina’s right to not answer that question, and although the question wasn’t as negative as she made it seem, Bey and Tina thought the interview was to promote their line. They probably weren’t expecting to be attacked with complaints of store owners. You think they don’t know? If mama got upset it’s probly cuz she knows people are complaining. Her restarting her speech made her seemed rehearsed though. I’m a perfectionist too, so I can understand why she did it.
Just cut them some slack. All the work they have to do, all the crap people give them day in day out. If you were under those circumstances, interviews left and right while trying to look like nothing’s wrong, you would snap under pressure as well.
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Vicalicious
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
LMAO. Isn’t Beyonce like a cute zombie. She reminds me of Bernie, from Weekend and Bernie’s. I love her but she is a space cadet. Tina is a plus size woman herself, she can’t wear one damn thing they make. Didn’t Tina look evil with that lil mole thing on her chin…i bet it had a lil hair coming out of it too.
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wonderful8
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
“and by the way sweetie, if anyone asks, remember your name is Beyonce” -mama Knowles
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SUGA BUGA
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
#248: ahhaha that was funny. Did anyone else notice that Mama Knowles was saying “AMAZING” TOO. NOW, I know where Beyonce gets it from. They are two walking hippy robots.
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moni
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
I LOVE ME SOME BEYONCE WITH HER FINE BUT STEPFORD WIFE ASS…I MEAN BRING SOME OF THAT SASHA OUT
STOP SITTING THERE STUCK ON STUPID PUT A BITCH IN HER PLACE
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Tiffany
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
That interview just proves how empty they both are. Furthermore, that was a legitimate question, and it should have been answered appropriately.
One of my friends tried on a pair of HOD jeans and it did not fit at all! And she only wears a size 8!
She had to try on a pair two sizes bigger and they still did not fit right!
The reporter was just doing her job, and it looks like Princess Bey and Queen Tina could not handle the pressure. Beyonce just sat there looking as dumb as a doorknob!
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monie luv
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
I agree with #7.
To respond in that way was very wrong.
I mean that’s a real issue.
Mama Knowles could’ve said, “Oh well, we had no idea that was an issue, we apologize, and that will definitely be taken care of.”
I mean, your clothing line is a product. If people have an issue with it, you should address it. To just not answer it makes it seem like you don’t care, or that there is something wrong going on that you want to cover up.
But, to just say, “Why would ask us that?”
Come on now. That’s not good business.
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btlb
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
They act like no one is suppose to ask them any negative questions b/c they are too perfect. Bitch get over yourself and your family, you mess up just like everyone else and someone needs to knock all of them off of their high horse. If the clothes do not fit right then just say we are working on it or lie and say we were not aware of this but we will check on it.
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Will
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
I have read several messages from people on here saying the same thing. The clothes are not sized properly and even women who wear a size 8 can’t fit the jeans. I think Tina should thank the reporter for bringing that to her attention.
She seems like the kind of person who can’t take bad news, so this problem may have been noticed before, but her “yes men” where affraid to tell her.
In 2 years and can see Beyonce writing a “Mommy Dearest” type book.
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bloo
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
HOD is hot garbage. not of that stuff on the website is cute. if i was solange i wouldn’t be associated with these fake bitches. at first i felt bad for solange for being treated as the step-child but maybe that’s not such a bad thing.
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bloo
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
and u can see jealousy all over tina’s face when she’s looking at beyonce.
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SUGA BUGA
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
Beyonce better be careful, Her mom might do her like Selena’s money manager did to her. In that picture posted above she looks like she wants to kill beyonce!
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moni
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
@ # 257…YOU SOUND CRAZY AS HELL
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Chester the Cat
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
These are old but o well
http://mediatakeout.com/E...usives/Beyonce_Weave.html
Isnt the reporter a CBS 2 CONSUMER REPORTER. That wouldn’t make her questions the least bit out of line. As was mentioned above this situation is not a COMMERCIAL.
260.
quick question
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
I agree with #189. Their prices are ridiculous. The shirts are like $150, and so are the jeans, purses, and shoes. They can Kiss my PHAT ASS! Who can afford that? Baby Phat, Polo, and Tommy Hillfiger wasnt that expensive.
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MissTee2U
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
Interestingly enough, Beyonce and her mother were interviewed by the consumer reporter. If you watch TV news, consumer reporters almost exclusively report on scams and consumer problems. Usually for a 30 second soundbite, a general assignment reporter will report on something like a celebrity store opening. It looked to me like the reporter’s intent was to investigate complaints about sizing issues on some HOD clothes. The question wasn’t about sizes available, it was a question about clothing not fitting properly in the sizes already available.
Although Beyonce is a black celeb, when has she said this is a line for just black folks? Not everyone makes their clothing in plus sizes, though many of the “urban labels” do. Sean, the female line of Sean John does not. Diddy sold his line in upscale stores like Neiman Marcus, used white models and high price points and nobody paid it any mind. If you go to any department store, plus sizes are in a separate area altogether. Most brands catering to the young, hip audience that HOD does have the same size runs. Many lines are high-priced and jeans in particular outside of juniors are now going for upwards of $200. Even Lane Bryant Seven jeans are over $70. Most of the urban brands are “affordable” I guess if you think $70 jeans and $50 shirts are affordable for the teenagers that they appeal to. For grown women, HOD price points are not out of line with what similar non-urban brands offer in stores in women’s sizes.
Tina could have handled the question better, but it looks like they were expecting to do a generic publicity interview and got something else. Most artists, especially of Beyonce’s stature, are told precisely what the interview is going to be about beforehand. That’s why Tina looked back, probably at the publicist, like WTF? I guarantee you, the journalist had and agenda here. Tina and Matthew were running businesses before they had Beyonce. If that was Tina’s hair salon on the line, she might have learned to respond just that way to keep her business running.
As far as Beyonce, I’m sure at 25 she will eventually have her “Control” moment or just retire. She may like her family and friends shielding her from shit. Otherwise she’d have to deal with all of the negative energy instead of focusing on her craft. But also what do you expect? This is a girl who has been trained from a young age, who came through the pageant system and is trying to handle a huge career as well as live her life. This kind of scrutiny and negativity is what drove Lauryn Hill out of the business. On the Today show, when asked about her response to the Superbowl thing Janet said “I’m not a fighter.” Remember, she was the youngest child in a show business family. She added “We weren’t raised that way.” Neither Janet and Beyonce grew up with the typical stresses and struggle of the girls in the hood that make up their fan base. So why would they be fighters? They’ve been in show business damn near since they could walk. There is some ill energy around B, not because of her own actions it appears, but because of the jealousy and insecurity of those who watch and critique her every move. It seems that having restraint, class, success and not falling into the usual ghetto patterns is really hard for some folks to take. Why is it that this chick’s every move is scrutinized so throughly? Some of us need to look more closely at our own lives and pay attention to that.
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sunshine
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
Beyonce is a stepford wife …. mama troll needs to save some of that money she spends on M.A.C and get some PR lessons on how to be tactful when your in the business.I can imagine the look on mama troll’s face when she found out she was preggers,lol.
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Amber
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
Beyonce is always wearing HOD clothes #1.
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lamorenitachula
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
#9, I totally agree with you! Beyonce is grown, but her mom speaks up for her all the time. Damn, I thought she had a back bone. You can kindly address a question without getting uptight about it, but B doesn’t even do that. Her mom needs an attitude make over before nobody wants to interview them anymore. If that happens, then B’s career would be over, because the media is needed in her type of career. They got to do something and fast!
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Nikki
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
Stepford Wife is a great description Sunshine! It’s like she’s programmed and shit..she kind of reminds me of Vicki the Robot from that show Small Wonders I used to watch as a shortie.
I know one thing, I wouldn’t want to cross Mama Knowles. She looks like she’ll cut a Nigga REAL quick.
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Nikki
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
#97, Ezra…You are so right. She missed some crucial things as far as education and stuff growing up. She’s not too smart, but of course Mrs. Knowles isn’t Madame Curie either..she sounds dumb too.
Beyonce was on stage, when she should’ve been in the books.
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tianni
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
BEYONCE & her MOMMA need to SWITCH OUTFITS.
(you seen MOMMA Knowles pulling down that tight black hooker looking dress?) LOL
& WHAT DOES SHE MEAN “WHY DID THEY BRING THAT UP” ? THIS IS THE PERFECT TIME TO BRING UP THAT QUESTION. PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS UP WITH THE “SIZING”. You would think PLUS & average sized women putting together a clothing line, would make clothing that FITS PLUS SIZED & AVERAGE SIZED WOMEN. Not STICK FIGURED WOMEN.
That MOMMA KNOWLES is a MEAN OLD WITCH! straight up & down. & BEYONCE—- GROW UP! The PUPPET routine is getting tired as hell!
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tianni
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
FIRST–BEYONCE & MOMMA KNOWLES need to SWITCH OUTFITS. Did you notice how MOMMA KNOWLES had top pull down that tight short BLACK dress she had on? LOL
& WHAT PERFECT TIMING TO BRING UP THE “SIZING” ISSUE OF THE CLOTHING LINE. WHAT THE HELL DID SHE MEAN: WHY DID SHE HAVE TO GO & BRING THAT UP FOR? The REPORTER HAD EVERY RIGHT TO DO SO. Thje clothing line is suppose to be designed for FULL FIGURED, & AVERAGE SIZED WOMEN…
NOT “STICK FIGURES” !!
That MOMMA KLNOWLES is a MEAN OLD WITCH!!
& BEYONCE NEEDS TO GROW UP already & DROP THE “PUPPET” ROUTINE already.
269.
quick question
Saturday, September 30, 2006 /
# mr. quite frankly said:
dereon is not made for the obese. the clothing provides a higher rise in the back to create an ample bottom for the ladies lacking a nice posterior. the jeans do what they purport but nothing is crafted for everyone in mind. most clothing is made from a form and in this instance, if you’re cokebottle shaped as Bey or how Chaka Khan used to be then this line of clothing will work for you. its similar to just like the ass has to fit into apple bottoms, not sure who wears them, to look right.
As far as interview etiquette ppl make mistakes… but i don’t see the same disrespect for keyshia’s, dmx, hell 99% of rappers ignant interviews. some topics are actually scripted in interviews due to high volume artists face and candid or frankness is truly unexpected as is the case of this one held at the old marshall field’s here in chicago.
apologies for the essay. just a fluid thought.
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First off, what do you consider obese? Some African American women have to wear larger sizes, because they have hips, things, and butt, not because they are fat, and even beyonce does that sweetheart. And you must not have seen Beyonce before she lost weight, because I doubt that she would even be able to wear these clothes. Maybe thats why you never saw her wear Dereon BEFORE she lost weight. But I do agree with you that people make mistakes, and I do agree that some people arent as hard on other artists who arent articulate as well. But you have to be real, they said that this line was going to be for “curvy women as well, they even told Oprah she could be able to wear these clothes. Now if the sizes are running small, I seriously doubt that. Not to mention how expensive the items are. $150 for a pair of jeans? $138 for a shirt? Get out of here, who can afford that??
270.
Renalta
Sunday, October 1, 2006 /
Mama Knowles is a witch who’s clothing line made $30 million last year. Whatever mutherfuckers! Jealousy kills. She’s a black mother and she’s protective of her daughter from you vultures.
Solange isn’t complaining because her ass doesn’t have to do anything ever but make sorry ass movies nobody will see. That girl has got it made and she knows she’s blessed!
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Nay
Sunday, October 1, 2006 /
Tina Knowles is doing too much. It’s an appropriate qustion for the interview and we as buyers would LOVE to know why your shit dont fit!
Honestly, i’ve seen their line its not that great. If i have to put down 150 for some jeans they better be religions, joe’s jeans or sevens…you hear me?
272.
Ms1derful
Sunday, October 1, 2006 /
Beyonce’ is slow. The ONLY thing she ever says in interviews is.. “Its CRAZY” and.. ‘I feel so BLESSED” in every other sentence.
Thats why people speak for her, because she’s a moron…but her mother sounds just as stupid as she does…. except she doesnt use the same two words when she speaks.
273.
LMAO
Sunday, October 1, 2006 /
“I watched the video and I don’t understand what the big deal is. I don’t think that beyonce should talk about HOD at all, because I really don’t even view it as her clothing line. beyonce is a model. LOL. that line, you can tell, is tina’s baby because she’s the only one that ever really talks about it - you can tell that she’s invested a lot of time and energy into that clothing line.
I don’t blame tina for not wanting to discuss that in the interview, either. *shrug* I don’t really see what beyonce has to do with any of this at all. LOL.”
To Brian, I have to disagree. She models AND represents this line. This line is generations of her family, so she is apart of this just as much as her mother is. They’ve shared that they BOTH work on the designs and the “couture.kick.soul.” phrase or whatever is broken down to her mother=couture, Beyonce=the kick, and her grandmother=the soul. They shared this on Oprah a while ago and recently on Tyra. So my point here….as much as you state otherwise, Beyonce’ has everything to do with this line.
And no, this really isn’t a big deal because I didn’t see the question as negative. How will they know their flaws if no one ever tells you or mentions it. That’s part business. I would’ve actually appreciated someone bringing light to that (a flaw) so that I could improve my product/line/whatever for the people. Some people should just think before they speak and not be on the offensive all the time.
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bigbumpaa
Sunday, October 1, 2006 /
273 comments lol over a stupid interview..
275.
SUGA BUGA
Sunday, October 1, 2006 /
#258, and what?
276.
Brownskincutie
Sunday, October 1, 2006 /
@274 I agree I just wanna get my post in before it closes! LOL anyhoo…Tina always speaking up in their interviews when ever they start to get a lil uncomfortable. I would love to hear Beyonce comment on something like that for a change just to see how she’d handle it- even though I’m not a fan so I could care less how the clothes fit ’cause I don’t plan on wearin shit from her line no way! But I will say Mama Tina don’t play! LMAO
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yella
Sunday, October 1, 2006 /
look i figure they just do what they do for money and dont worry about they other things
278.
getaGRIP
Sunday, October 1, 2006 /
Being in front of a camera and making millions isn’t always what its cracked up the be I have learned to accept not being rich because I can appreciate life a whole lot better then not being able to get tispy and someone take my picture and put it all over the internet(so jealous I’m not) nice looking I am!!!The of outcome of hod is just not lining up with what the knowles are putting out there!! (prices,sizes,looks)I make good money but I’m not paying a $150 for a ugly ass shirt. That is on Tina because WHY? her name is on the shit and if beyonce should not have been talking then maybe she should not have said anything better just not come!!! I hope I didnt write a book just then!!!
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BrooklynsFinest
Sunday, October 1, 2006 /
Another 200+ post about Beyonce. At least your obsession is consistant.
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monie luv
Sunday, October 1, 2006 /
Well, #279, Miss Bee brings the news that people feel the need to comment about.
May be a waste of time, but, you gotta admit that Miss Bee and her kin are a hilarious group of people.
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Kammy
Sunday, October 1, 2006 /
I went to the website they have some cute things but I honestly can’t see myself spending 230 dollars on some beyonce jeans.
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Kammy
Sunday, October 1, 2006 /
I went to the website they have some cute things but I honestly can’t see myself spending 210 dollars on some beyonce jeans.
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Kammy
Sunday, October 1, 2006 /
I went to the website. They have a few cute things but I honestly can’t see myself spending 210 dollars on a pair of jeans from a beyonce clothing line.
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kindanice
Sunday, October 1, 2006 /
I’m sorry….I have not read the comments here and I am far from a STAN. But that reporter? was out of her mind asking something like that. It was disrespectful and I don’t think her mother could have dealt with this any better.
I doubt they would have asked Puffy the same thing.
It’s time women in business showed other women in business a little more respect.
kind.
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Megan
Sunday, October 1, 2006 /
Who wouldn’t be mad that someone is dissing your product.
Plus the person represents Macy’s and her bringing that up is messing their sales up too.
Tina was just keeping it real. WE forget sometimes that celebrities are human too and we probably would react the same way.
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jajasjor
Sunday, October 1, 2006 /
Beyonce’s mom looks like a mean ol’ witch and she said why would u say that…..it’s an interview u numb nut..no wonder Beyonce’s ass was so big…it was swollen from all those ass whippings mean(a) knowles gave her ….that’s why her ass is smaller now she moved away from home…ms.joanna jackson ain’t no joke
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jaejae
Monday, October 2, 2006 /
they are somethin else…
and NUMBER 21 …u silly..lol @ smile blink blink
hahahahahahaha
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Detroit_Girl2006
Monday, October 2, 2006 /
I went to purchase some of the clothing line when they first came out trying to support B and buy clothes that are made for cury women. I normally where about a size 7 . My waist is 28.5 inches and hips about 43 inches. I Could not fit any of the pants even the ones that strech. I was so dissapointed. I have my resevation about the line even with the re-launch, it seems that the price got jacked up by about 60 bucks or so, which is no big deal cause 7 for all man kinds cost about 150 or so. I looked on the website and the pants go up to a size 34. I will go buy her pants if they fit, of course B’s pants are going to fit, her momma made them for her .
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P
Monday, October 2, 2006 /
Sometimes, the more pricey clothes are cut different; I DO think, however, that the build and shape of most women of color are not necessarily plus sized, but we are proportioned differently in the hips and backside areas, and that pushes up up at least a half a size, if not an entire one.
We usually come in sizes 5 to 16, and she should at least provide in that range.
As for her verbiage, I like Beyonce okay; I am not a zealot, but she’s doing her thing. But I do think she is more of a performer than a public speaker. And everyone can’t excel in everything, nor should we respect them to; however, I do think she is more passive and shy than her vixen persona, and that parlays into the way she reacts with the media as well. If she is not as well spoken as she could be, she could probably take a few toastmaster clases and be done with it.
As for her mother; she’s just being a mom. Could it have been handled more appropriately? Sure. But what uncomfortable situation couldn’t be handled differently?
They sell these at Macy’s? I haven’t even seen the wardrobe? Has anybody? what do you think of them?
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P
Monday, October 2, 2006 /
Do you think the cut of the clothes are what is making the difference? I DO think, however, that the build and shape of most women of color are not necessarily plus sized, but we are proportioned differently in the hips and backside areas, and that pushes up up at least a half a size, if not an entire one.
We usually come in sizes 5 to 16, and she should at least provide in that range.
As for her verbiage, I like Beyonce okay; I am not a zealot, but she’s doing her thing. But I do think she is more of a performer than a public speaker. And everyone can’t excel in everything, nor should we respect them to; however, I do think she is more passive and shy than her vixen persona, and that parlays into the way she reacts with the media as well. If she is not as well spoken as she could be, she could probably take a few toastmaster clases and be done with it.
As for her mother; she’s just being a mom. Could it have been handled more appropriately? Sure. But what uncomfortable situation couldn’t be handled differently?
They sell these at Macy’s? I haven’t even seen the wardrobe? Has anybody? what do you think of them?
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boogiegirl
Monday, October 2, 2006 /
#30…Curvy don’t mean plus sizes. Beyonce is not a plus size girl but she is curvy. I am 5′ 4” and weigh 123lbs and have a coke bottle figure
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irie
Monday, October 2, 2006 /
i am tired of this whole beyonce scene i think it is time for a breath of fresh air. Her way of dress is always the same. i liked her better in destiny when her style would change, but damn im tired off seeing her ass.
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tbrown
Monday, October 2, 2006 /
One question:
WHERE WAS MATTHEW KNOWLES????
Why wasn’t he there to help corral their blunderings?
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bella_hustla
Tuesday, October 3, 2006 /
If you don’t want people to critize your work, don’t get famous and don’t go on TV surrounded by journalists during a PRESS CONFERENCE. If you think the journalist asked the question to make Tina feel bad, you don’t know what a press sonference is. It’s not a stupid talk show where the host pretends he/she likes you because you are famous. It’s information, not advertisment. Something the Knowles did not know; not because your famous that verybody is goinf to close your eyes on your mistakes.
As for Beyonce, I bet she did not do much in the creating process of the clothing line but if she insists to be given credit, she has to be held responsible when things go wrong too.
I don’t think Beyonce was confortable with the way her mum reacted. I think if she was slick enough she could have said something smart but I don’t think she had anything to respond to that unexpected question ans she did not want to cut off her mum.
I bet Tina regretted this too.
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chick
Tuesday, October 3, 2006 /
i say give beyonce a break,why is she even in this conversation.the thing we should be worrying about is
how her mother could resolve the issues of clothing sizes for thick women.
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*DRE*
Tuesday, October 3, 2006 /
I believe that Tina answered the question instead of beating around the bush. It’s apparent that they made this clothing line for upscale people who have tons of $$$$…To me, Beyonce doesn’t do good in interviews. She not sharp at all with answering questions and when asked a question, she responds as if she’s not all that bright. I just think they’re trying to do too much and make alot of $$$$ real fast without carefully checking out the quality of the product. They should’ve apologized for the wardrobe malfunction…lol…and told them they would do fix the product and do anything to keep the customer satisfied…Oh well, not everybody thinks before they speak.
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Girl
Wednesday, October 4, 2006 /
To #61. It’s called HYPE, and not everyone falls for it.
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cyrus26
Thursday, October 5, 2006 /
I think Tina has a right not to answer a particular question. Who knows?.. It may have been a few defects that were isolated incidents. Or problems with the manufacturers getting the sizes correct. Or big fat bitches gettin mad cause they cant fit into a size six. Who knows!? But to past judgement on these two…? Wake the fuck up. All Mama is guilty of is not having a publicist to show her how to handle situations like this or how to speak a lil more professionaly when confronted with obvios “hit job” questions.
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cyrus26
Thursday, October 5, 2006 /
And another thing…99.9% of interviews are edited. There are a crap load of outtakes of these things for every type of interview you can imagine. Whoever thinks all the other interviews they have seen, that went off without a hitch, is the way they were recorded(without any mistakes) is an idiot. point blank.
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Janice
Friday, October 6, 2006 /
Well i’ve read most of allu’s comment and there’s something that all u seem to have forgotten: B is a very shy person!just watch interviews with Destiny’s child for example everyone might talk but her! When she’s alone she does the best she can because she has to, but when there’s anyone else with her she just tryna hide that’s why she created Sasha the girl on stage that’s never B herself!!!
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Mizz Ama
Monday, October 9, 2006 /
I have to say that I disagree that House of Dereon should not be held responsible IF they are not sizing ALL customers (#3). From what Beyonce has been tellin, this line of clothing can be described as when the “sidewalk meets the catwalk”. That sounds like a lot of sizes to me. On any given day, you’ll probably meet more 12s than 4s on the sidewalk. And if there is a customer service issue, then that’s something the Knowles have to deal with, after all, this is their family business. Mama Mama Knowles was a designer. It would be an extreme DISservice if they didn’t try to fit the wide range of sizes out there. Mama Knowles lost weight, but she’s still thick! I bet she rocks some of that Dereon. My 50 Cents!
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Nastavia
Wednesday, October 18, 2006 /
That was the most awful interview i have ever seen! tina seems very ignorant. she should have used that chance to address the problem that some of the stores are having with their line. i am a fan of Bey and her music but after that interview and actually going to the website to view their clothing, i know that i would never buy something from them. i probably wouldnt wear it if is was free, because from what i saw, they wouldnt fit! beyonce should know better than to have skinny-minny chicks modeling some clothes that are meant to include all of us. there are no thick chicks, no booty, no hips, on itty-bitty b****es. its ridiculous! i wouldnt dare try to fit my booty in those clothes!
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Nastavia
Wednesday, October 18, 2006 /
Baby Phat is better! they have black models with booty! Real chicks!
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Essence
Tuesday, October 31, 2006 /
I just watched the video. First off, the Knowles family is a lying family. Their imagae is very important to them. For all ya’ll waiting on Bee to show her true colors..Good Luck! If we found out who she really is she would go bankrupt. Just look any thing that is a “behind-the-scene” taping of her..She’s a controlling Bitch just like her moma. They have both forgotten that they are just fat women on a diet. One burger away from a size 18. Tina sat her phat azz on Oprah and said that clothing line didn’t make clothes bigger than a 16 and she was clearly larger than that. But appeared on Tyra Banks looking anorexic. Let that girl and her mother do what they don’t. If you don’t like it don’t invest in it. One day they will wake up.
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Essence
Tuesday, October 31, 2006 /
Correction: “image” and Tina stated that line doesn’t go any bigger that a 14.
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LaToyia Mackey
Saturday, December 23, 2006 /
I am a stunning black woman, a Stock Broker, and an Investment Guidance Counselor. In addition, I teach young Black men and women how to invest their money. It makes me sick to my stomach to see a black woman bow down like that. She’s like “he he let’s put some make-up on and a weave and bake some cookies for the boys…he he he he” I’ll give B a run for her money–all of it! LaToyia
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kattiea
Saturday, January 20, 2007 /
I feel yall are makin it more complicated than it is.
Beyonce is there because the whole clothing line exists to celebrate three generations of a love of fashion and design. (Hence the motto, couture, kick soul) Three generations obviously including Beyonce, i agree she obviously is helping the line massively because of her fame but thats not the only reason she is there.
The reason she is seen as fake is because she is protecting herself from the cruelty of the press that have ruined the careers and lives of so many talented stars before her. She does this by holding back. The way she is professionally is no doubt different to what she’s like in private, just like the way everyone else is at they job-they different when they round friends and family.
I do agree that it is quite expensive and restricted to certain sizes but that may all be for a reason.
Beyonce is beautiful, talented, elegant, classy, humble and one of the few women who are using their position to empower women in a positive way.
show some love!!!!
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kattiea
Sunday, January 21, 2007 /
mama knowles does have a bit of an unecesarry attitude goin on in the interview though i hav to say!
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lilred30
Saturday, February 10, 2007 /
Yall need to stop hating! The girl is from Texas. That’s why she’s so country! You don’t expect new yorkers to lose their accents so don’t expect ALL the southerners to lose their country! I think Tina was just being protective of her baby and her clothing line.My momma woulda done the same thing times two!
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melisus
Sunday, May 20, 2007 /
Beyonce sounds sooo slow when she talks I am convinced dhe is a dingbat.The moms looks like a witch and I can’t stand her.
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VanillaTootsie
Thursday, May 31, 2007 /
Now that lady was just bein dirty….she aint need to say all of that, especially not on air. just bein spiteful
and it sounded like she was sayin the clothes were not fitting certain people…hmmm, well sound like a personal problem for those who couldn’t get in the clothes! weight issues maybe??
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LaToyia Mackey
Wednesday, July 25, 2007 /
I simply believe that black women should be taking movie roles that do not just show our big butts. If you have something to say about them then make some suggestions. I truly believe in supporting African-American women in their career endeavors. I purposely purchase products from the House of Dereon to support African-American business. I am also in the process of seeking out African-American investment firms to manage my hard-earned cash. I think that Gabrielle Union was coooold blooooded when she came out with the UCLA degree. She’s so articulate and intelligent. Angela Bassett is another cold blooded lady. I shock people all day long in my corporate office with how smart I am. That bothers me. I ask: “why are you so surprised?”. They proceed to tell me that all they see is black girls with big booties on music videos. Well, those women are career models/actresses, not prostitutes–many, articulate and well-educated. Come to think of it, one of the only intelligent black women they will allow to speak intelligently in public is on TV from 3PM to 4PM-OPRAH. In addition, It doesn’t help that the media focuses its attention on ONLY a pretty face. If you are black and you use a word that exceeds 5 letters, its “CUT!!” time. Can’t outshine the blonde-haried and blue-eyed! It happens in CORPORATE AMERICA…IT HAPPENS IN THE ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY TOO!! The men do not want to be challenged by us and the women do not want to be outsmarted by us. This is the New Plantation…The New Racism…Our New Battle has been presented to us. I highly doubt that we will fail.
CORPORATE AMERICA & AMERICAN ENTERTAINMENT: THE NEW SLAVE PLANTATIONS.
think about it.
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lil dee
Sunday, February 10, 2008 /
That family is soooooooooooooooooo fake.