I think everyone looks nice. I ain’t mad at Halle for stepping out with the white boy. He’s kinda cute. JScene, I agree with you. I always advocate that Black women date outside their race b/c the good Black men (educated, good credit, no criminal past, no sex with other men, no baby mamas) are so few and far between. That’s just my opinion though.
Bill Said:
That comment always concerns me…
THERE are a Lot of educated Black Men with no criminal record & good credit out there !!
I’m a educator, (and I will shortly be a Doctorial canidate), but I spend a LOT of time at a major university here in new jersey…
it is literaly crawling with Black Men !!
Whenever I go to the various Step shows up & down the East coast (I’m a Kappa Alumin..KAY, for the Nupes out there), those are crawling with Black Men….
I don’t understand what the ladies are saying, when they say their are NO good black men…
Exactly Where are YOU looking ???
I suggest that you go BACK to school, and take a few extra course toward your MBA (or whatever you higheest degree level is), because the Brothers are in College !
Like I said no biggie! You went all off and what not. I have peeps in Newark. East Orange to be exact. I know about the rate of crime there and everywhere for that matter. I don’t know if your answer in its entirety was directed toward me, but sweetie, you are not the only one on this thread who has been to college…..and graduated!
I am very aware of the way Africans perceive African-Americans. You should be as well.
No need to apologize for venting….but…..question, what did YOU do to help YOUR student BEFORE he got to that point of “y’all” going to court “AGAIN” for hustlin’?
You’re on here venting about how disgusted you are and black this and black that. Shouldn’t you become more involved with your world and YOUR students out there? They are way more important than this “black gossip blog” right here.
Seriously, I love CL “lord knows I do” but I don’t take it home with me. EVER!
i think maybe Halle is just trying “something new”. She’s been with how many black men? …who have disrespected her and cheated on her repeatedly? I can’t lie, after I got divorced I went on a date with a white guy…ONE date! But then you try to picture yourself being intimate with this person and it just wasn’t working for me. I’m embarrassed that I felt that way too but it’s just a matter of personal preference.
Bill…clue me in on the university that’s crawling with Black Men! Lol!
Bill Said:
When I go to tutor/mentor my Kappa Undergraduates, I see a LOT of greek brothers (Kappa, Sigma, Omega & Alpha’s) looking for girls at the following schools
LIU in Brooklyn (flatbush Ave)
Fordham University
Pace University
Montclair State University
Rutgers University
Kean University
Jersey City State
LOL…I just realized that I have a similar username as Nubian….just to clear it up…we are two different people! LOL (No offense, Nubian—I havent even read any comments, I just saw sum1 reply to u and I thought they meant me!
@72 you mentioned date outside your race, but your own race will be annoyed by it…how do you explain Janet and JD. People stay talking about them.
Bill Said:
I said that this is something that I will have to work on..I don’t like feeling that way about interracial dating, because it NO ONES business who you date….I guess what I was trying to demonstrate is despite our best intentions, we ALL have certain prejudices..I think that once one admit that, he can THEN start to correct those IGNORANT feelings..
That said, I’m confused by your question..
Isn’t Janet & JD (Jermain Dupree) both BLACK ??
Are you annoyed at Halle because the guy is “white?” Seriously, how is she parading him around? The pictures that are taken are from paparazzi; they are candid shots! They are not posing for these pictures, nor do you see this guy all up and through hollywood with Halle. You are far more intelligent than that remark you made, or at least i thought, so you should TRY AND CONTROL YOUR DISTAIN FOR BLACK WOMEN DATING OUTSIDE OUR RACE.
Funny…..i never heard you make a comment about none of these pictures on here with black athletes or entertainers dating and being constantly photographed with those so called “trophy white women,” with their homly played out asses! Get a grip brother!
@afro jamaicano
you speak like a straight fool! Every time i’ve heard Halle speak, it’s always the same, what do you mean switching from black to white! You sound like a zip dang fool!
I think everyone looks nice.
1st Serena and Brandy looks stress free (that’s a good thang). Also waiting on the new album.
2nd Halle do you boo! She tried the blk man & he did not treat her right. Find love where you can, I aint mad at you. She is white as well as being black, she don’t have to pick a side, society does that for her. There is nothing wrong with doing both use it to your advantage girl.
3rd Ciara, ugh. Who cares who’s she dating, I like the dog better than her. She can’t sing and has no talent!!!! NOW
@92 that was my point. They are both black and people still get annoyed or hate on them. Just like Halle’s relationship annoys some people. I think people will not like certain people together regardless of color.
Are you annoyed at Halle because the guy is “white?” Seriously, how is she parading him around? The pictures that are taken are from paparazzi; they are candid shots! They are not posing for these pictures, nor do you see this guy all up and through hollywood with Halle. You are far more intelligent than that remark you made, or at least i thought, so you should TRY AND CONTROL YOUR DISTAIN FOR BLACK WOMEN DATING OUTSIDE OUR RACE.
Bill Said:
Sometimes, I have RARE momments where I was not operating intelligently…
I will be the FIRST to admit, that that is not a cool way to feel, but nevertheless I feel that way.
Yes, it is IGNORANT of me to have a disdain for interacial dating…
Yes, It is ignorant of me to be MORE concerned when it involves a Black Female
Yes, This is something that I will need to work on.
Serena and Brandy looks nice but would love to see some celebs with their real hair when slumming….
Don’t know how this turn into inter-racial dating…
U go Halle…variety is the spice of life….if he makes u happy who cares….now dick size would be problematic for me to switch over…but to each his own.
There are good black men out there but most times we balck women spend so much time complaining we don’t stop to take a look….and our list of criteria could be damn exhausting….I said “WE” so nobody get offended please…I included myself.
So Bill….which islands have that look…cause I’ve been to ‘islands’…shoot i live on one…and we pretty much cover all looks…..
Btw, it’s the inter-racial mixes from way back that produces the true ‘island’ look….
@92 that was my point. They are both black and people still get annoyed or hate on them. Just like Halle’s relationship annoys some people. I think people will not like certain people together regardless of color
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People hate on JJ and JD?! That’s news to me. I guess you learn something everyday.
Also, I tried not to comment but It’s hard so I’ll just try to say this on dating outside of your race:
I, too, as Bill and Afro am bothered by the idea. But who gives a rat’s ass about what I think but me, right?? LOL—Well, ppl have the freedom to date whomever they want publicly or privately, BUT
WHEN PPL IN GENERAL (Not talking about Halle b/c I could care less about her relationships, OR ANYONE else’s for that matter) BEGIN TO EQUATE A CERTAIN RACE WITH CERTAIN FAVORABLE/UNFAVORABLE QUALITIES, IT BECOMES A DANGEROUS, MIND-ALTERING OVER-GENERALIZATION.
For example: say you date blk men and they mistreat you, but then you find that Latino men do the same thing, but white men THAT YOU DATE treat you better…it’s only a matter of time before you find out that the silver lining in one of your potential relationships was just some shiny ass aluminum foil…meaning…don’t equate race or any other charateristic, ie: monetary status, profession, etc… with the way a person will treat you b/c it ALWAYS BACKFIRES!
@92 that was my point. They are both black and people still get annoyed or hate on them. Just like Halle’s relationship annoys some people. I think people will not like certain people together regardless of color.
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Bill Said:
Point taken.
Excellant analogy…
Just last week, Angel.la posted a picture of Serena & some Caucasian Man.
At the time I stated “Good Riddance”, because I could care less about Serena Williams…
If Beyonce dated a white man, I would feel the same way..”Good Riddance..
Halle is a sore point with me, because I’ve hada crush on her since Boomerange, and I feel as though she turned her back on the Black Race…
See…I’m Pro Black.
My House is Black..My sheets are black..Everything in my house is black…I’m the First person out the door for a Black Cause…I go to the Million Man March EVERY YEAR…..
Sometimes Being so Pro Black conflicts with me be a Christian, which means I must love EVERYBODY, including people I don’t like or agree with , e.g Homosexuals, Whoremongers,ec…
So I admit to having certain prejudices..These are the things that I must work on and check myself with on a daily basis…
It’s mighty big of you brother to admit your short comings…i applaud you for that. The way you feel is the way a lot of black men feel; they want and enjoy the freedom to date any race, however, they act like it’s a cardinal sin for a black woman to date anyone other than a black man….it’s so sad. To each their own. We are all the same, we just have a different color coatings. Consider this:
Bill, you’re a woman just for this example, and you’re waiting for the train. The train comes along but it’s white and you’re black, you past on it saying, I’m waiting for a black train, you can go please.” The white train is going to serve the same purpose as the black train; both are going to get you want you want, from point a to b. The same with races, if the white person treats you well and gives you what you want, why past it up? And don’t get me started about the black man shortage!!!!!!!!! Lord knows we have reason to be dating any and everybody at this point!
I hope you really work on your feelings about interracial dating cause if you don’t already have a daughter, you might have a daughter one day and she might decide to date outside her race (cause the black man shortage gone be off the chain for sure by then - hell their might be ONE BLACK MAN LEFT) and when/if she does, i hope you can see the big picture and that her happiness and the treatment she’s receiving is the point.
#114…I never knew that…I mean @ first I thought that maybe ppl would talk about the height but Janet is only 4′11″, so….
but yea, when you love someone, you love them and Im pretty sure that it hurts when ppl try to tell you otherwise (I’ve been there…and I am still here lol)
Albeit, I see your point clearly now.
Sidebar: Is Halle’s bf the guy from Something New? I see a lot of illusions to the movie and Im not sure if its b/c of the bw/wm dual or b/c he is the guy from the movie.
i am all for Bill feeling the way he feels, and at least saying that he doesn’t like the fact he feels that way. far too many people have negative feelings and don’t challenge themselves to figure out why the have those feelings.
trinib said:
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So Bill….which islands have that look…cause I’ve been to ‘islands’…shoot i live on one…and we pretty much cover all looks…..
Bill Said:
I love Island Woman…They are so willing to teach you new things…
I love the Island way of looking at things, and the way that Island people talk.
Most of all, I admire Islanders PRIDE in their country & heritage.
Nassau Bahamas is a favorite place of mine to visit.
Bahamians are the most PROUD people I’ve ever had the pleasure to meet.
Bahamas is SO clean…You can eat off the sidewalk…And everything down their is colorful….
I’ve never beento Trinidad, Jamaica or Hati, But I have near & dear friends from each oth these islands….
There’s just something about an Island woman that I like..I like the fact that they can cook, and they always look at men like “Brother, I will wear you out”.
They speak their mind, and they don’t beat around the bush..And Island woman will tell you “I want to make love to you”…They are just so forward and passive agressive….
It’s Just their way..
SOMETIMES Americanized black women come off as stuck up, angry & arrogant….It’s really hard to have a conversation….You have to get past their ego first..
I think that comes from their perception that all Black men are dogs, and we just want the panties…
Hell, I married…
I don’t want anything, but a good conversation and/or debate…
I love your point of view (even tho you’re a kappa, I have some serious issues with them, but anyways..) You speak the truth! I’m in college Bill, and yes, it does appear to be alot of good black men, but ACTUALLY most of them are full of shit and are man-whores.
TO GIRLBLUE,
Why you hating so much!
ATTENTION!!
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY! Serena, Brandy, and Ciara have decent looking weaves!
Everybody leave Halle alone. She’s been through some drama with black men, let’s be happy that she found love (hopefully)! The way black men are acting, I think most black women should starting looking outside color lines. Then maybe they’ll starting respecting us.
No, halle’s guy is not the guy from the movie “something new.” I don’t know if you use to watch “sex in the city,” but he’s the younger guy samantha (kim cattrail) dated for the last season (he played a model who was all over billboards on the show)…
thanks @ jscene! I haven’t watched Sex in the City in a while and I am not that familiar with the characters, but I will have to goggle him! lol—thanx again
It’s mighty big of you brother to admit your short comings…i applaud you for that. The way you feel is the way a lot of black men feel; they want and enjoy the freedom to date any race, however, they act like it’s a cardinal sin for a black woman to date anyone other than a black man….it’s so sad. To each their own. We are all the same, we just have a different color coatings. Consider this:
Bill, you’re a woman just for this example, and you’re waiting for the train. The train comes along but it’s white and you’re black, you past on it saying, I’m waiting for a black train, you can go please.” The white train is going to serve the same purpose as the black train; both are going to get you want you want, from point a to b. The same with races, if the white person treats you well and gives you what you want, why past it up? And don’t get me started about the black man shortage!!!!!!!!! Lord knows we have reason to be dating any and everybody at this point!
I hope you really work on your feelings about interracial dating cause if you don’t already have a daughter, you might have a daughter one day and she might decide to date outside her race (cause the black man shortage gone be off the chain for sure by then - hell their might be ONE BLACK MAN LEFT) and when/if she does, i hope you can see the big picture and that her happiness and the treatment she’s receiving is the point.
Bill Said:
Without being to transparent, one of the reason why I feel this way was that an OLD girlfriend of mine cheated on me with a Caucasian Man…
You know the drill…He had money and a car…At the time I was a struggling student with student loans and a beat down toyota Camry…
It’s too painful to talk about, cause I was head over hills in LIKE with this chick….Thank God it worked out the way it did..Her girlfriend told me about the affair, consoled me, comforted me, and eventually married me…..She had known all along about the affair, and waited for the right opportunity to make her move (my wife).
Anyways,
My Wife tells me ALL the Time “God has a way of dealing with your funky attitudes about people”…
God forbid My daughter comes home with a White boyfriend,or my son comes home and annoces that he gay..
That’s why I ALWAYS have to confess to God and to people that I’m not perfect, that some things in my head are “off” for whatever reason…So that that Thing that I’m having a “Issue” with doesn’t come back and bite me in the butt….
“Give us THIS day, our daily bread, and FORGIVE us are TRESPASSES, and we forgive those who Tresspass against us” . That is an except of the Lord’s Prayer..I have to pray that prayer EVERYDAY, two or three times a day….
Whenever i see yet another Homosexual sashay past me or hit on me, I must pray that prayer…
Whenever I see thingsor PEOPLE I don’t like I have to pray that prayer…..
I’m Just being transparent for a momment, exposing my own human frailities…
Yeah BIll Nassau Bahamas IS Beautiful but they have a ghetto in their own. I went in August and the tour guide took us through the ghetto and we were in amazement. They were trying to sell us weed from the bus, it was crazy.
All in all Nassau is a beautiful place and especially Atlantis. The island men are funny and I love the way they talk and “tings” lol.
…after the movie Something New came out Halle discussed interracial dating on Oprah and referred to it as “something new”. At the time I didn’t realize that she was dating a white guy though.
why thank u Bill….pity some brothers over her don’t appreciate our speaking our minds….
Wait a minute….I was told by African American guys that I look evil…lol….I guess they miss interpret the “wear u out” look….but I would…hehehe…and the accent gets them everytime…
Well, u and your wife are welcome to trinidad anytime…Gabrielle Union comes for carnival…tempting huh???
CARNIVAL…best motherfucking show on earth…yes I said it..WHAT?
I feel you about being cheating on! But it doesn’t mean you should frown upon all white/black relationships.
I have had my heart broken twice in 2 years by successful attractive college black men who were kappa (they went to different schools). That was REALLY hard, I’m still trying to get over it, but does it make it fair to say that all kappas are assholes (even tho I do think it)?
That’s why I can’t stand when adults who are not undergraduates say that there are plenty of good black men because they have NO IDEA how it REALLY is…
So let’s be happy for anyone who finds love despite of skin color but true love is HARD TO FIND!!
I figure you would hopefully understand my point since you are a kappa.
why thank u Bill….pity some brothers over her don’t appreciate our speaking our minds….
Wait a minute….I was told by African American guys that I look evil…lol….I guess they miss interpret the “wear u out” look….but I would…hehehe…and the accent gets them everytime…
Well, u and your wife are welcome to trinidad anytime…Gabrielle Union comes for carnival…tempting huh???
CARNIVAL…best motherfucking show on earth…yes I said it..WHAT?
Bill Said:
I learned YEARS ago (before I was married)
that Carribean woman will Feed you, then F_ck you…
I think that is a wonderful trait for a WIFE to have !!!!
Trinidad is NEXT on my wish list of places to go..
Talking with people like you and Nix makes me want to know MORE about the islands…
Concreteloop is a GREAT place to get an educations about different cultures & nationalities…
I have spoken to Blacks from literaly every nation on CL..And that a VERY good thing !!!
Halle’s boyfriend was not in Sex and The City. He is a model and they met while doing the Versace campaign. I believe the guy from SATC is/was dating Rosario Dawson.
I feel you about being cheating on! But it doesn’t mean you should frown upon all white/black relationships.
I have had my heart broken twice in 2 years by successful attractive college black men who were kappa (they went to different schools). That was REALLY hard, I’m still trying to get over it, but does it make it fair to say that all kappas are assholes (even tho I do think it)?
That’s why I can’t stand when adults who are not undergraduates say that there are plenty of good black men because they have NO IDEA how it REALLY is…
So let’s be happy for anyone who finds love despite of skin color but true love is HARD TO FIND!!
I figure you would hopefully understand my point since you are a kappa.
Bill Said:
I understand completely….
Before I put on my Kappa Jacket and pick up my Kapa Kane, I didn’t get NO play….
As SOON as a “crossed over” into Kappa Heaven, Woman were THROWING the P_ssy at me…..
All Greeks get serious sexual healing on Campus…
Your right…A lot of Kappa’s are “Playboy’s”..We (the Kappa’s) are currently trying to avoid a lawsuite form the Playboy Corporation for using the Playboy logo on our correspondence….It’s a Legend & Culture that has been passed down from generation to generation, from line to line…..I slept with every one of my “Kappa Sweethearts” (Those are the girls that help you to “go over”). I’m not proud to admit that, but’s it true…What’s REALLY painful is seeing them at the mall, movies, resturants with their husband and kids….I can’t even look them in the eyes, cause we did some really nasty things….
But, anyways, yes.I understand what you saying about my brothers….It took the Lord Jesus Christ to MAKE me change…Sex is addicitve, especially when you can get it when you want, and HOW you want it…
It’s funny how having Jesus in your life will change your outlook.
What’s even funnier is now that I have DAUGHTERS, I had to LEARN to RESPECT women and not treat them as my personnel play thing…
I hope you understand where I’m coming from.
I don’t know if my apology can heal you of your hurt, caused by other Kappas, but if it DOES help, I apologize to all the women that I used and abused when I was young & dumb….
have to admit XcuseMeMiss86 that getting your heart broken is messed up…but u can’t give up on all of our black brothers….may sound trivial but sometimes u just have to love,learn and move on….
There are some good frat boys but they usually go unnoticed for the pretty or player type….I went to a university in the US….i remember telling a boy when he pledged that now he would have to get a catcher’s mit for all the pussy thrown his way (Best Man is my flick)….he was considered a ‘nerd’ before pledging (and got a car) so i have to wonder if some women are to blamed for the perception of frat boys(any fraternity)…I’m not from that culture so maybe one day someone would explain it to me(can’t hate I wanted to be an honoree frat-girl…something about being spanked with the paddle…lol)
And to all my CL people….despite what country…….all ah we is one family
the last time I saw Brandys hair was when she was on the show Thea. I have not seen her real hair since, so Im thinking… shouldnt be as long as the weave by now!!?
I understand. I’m glad you’re a changed man, and I appreciate your apology! Greek life is so complicated, I really had to consider my decision to go Greek (hopefully the sorority will have a line next spring) but anyways…
Some girls are groupies, and chase guys because of their letters, and when they get played, I don’t feel bad because their intentions were wrong…
But what is screwed up is when good girls get caught up in the game and don’t even know it, that was where I was. Some guys are professional liars and know how to con women, but what goes around, comes around.
I don’t know, I’m starting to lose my faith in black men.
Anyways I’m rambling, I don’t even know what my point is but I do appreciate your apology…
no mattle how ugly yall may say brandy is or bald headed,or how beautieful yall may say kelly rowland, is kelly rowland will never have a solo caree like brandy in her life,i don’t get why when people see brandy name they always have to bring up kelly rowland name like kelly someone that brandy is jealous of,cause kelly anit shit without destiny’s child,and as far as getting in with beyonce everybody don’t kiss her ass like kelly rowland does,now secretly kelly rowland want to beyonce,cause i know she tide of hearing beyonce & destiny’s child in that how its allways going to be,an brandy and & Sarena been friendy way before kelly and sareena,kelly meet sareena threw brandy
have to admit XcuseMeMiss86 that getting your heart broken is messed up…but u can’t give up on all of our black brothers….may sound trivial but sometimes u just have to love,learn and move on….
There are some good frat boys but they usually go unnoticed for the pretty or player type….I went to a university in the US….i remember telling a boy when he pledged that now he would have to get a catcher’s mit for all the pussy thrown his way (Best Man is my flick)….he was considered a ‘nerd’ before pledging (and got a car) so i have to wonder if some women are to blamed for the perception of frat boys(any fraternity)…I’m not from that culture so maybe one day someone would explain it to me(can’t hate I wanted to be an honoree frat-girl…something about being spanked with the paddle…lol)
And to all my CL people….despite what country…….all ah we is one family
Bill Said:
She’s RIGHT.
I din’t get NO P_ssy in High School…
I wasn’t a nerd, but I was into my Books, and I was so stressed about getting into the “right” college that I let a lot of things slip by me…..
Soon as I pledged, My ENTIRE world changed…Girls started asking me out, and every night was an adventure…..
I THINK the reason why I’m so into Jesus nw is because I’m so guilt about whatI did during my college years….
Woman like a man with Confidence & Swagger….
That’s the appeal with Frat Men..The arrogance & the aroma of sexual availability
Book worms don’t excite women at all….Guys that work all the time or who are into their computers to much turn woman off…A woman will be DRAWN to a man that has 3-5 girlfriends, because she will wonder “What all the fuse is about”…I learned that the more woman you sleep with the more women TALK about your conquest, exploits & TECHNIQUE, the more OTHER women will want to be with you….
You know what another magnet for women ???
A Wedding Band…..
Don’t get me started.
Everyday, I have to turn down request.
Do you know how PAINFUL that is ???
Love the hair Brandy. Can’t wait for new music you have been on the scene long enough to have your own secure spot. “been paid for”. Serena is looking a lot softer lately > good for her. TOO many musles = manly.
yall some hating ass bitches yall don’t know how long brandy hair is,yall haven’t seen her natural hair since since she was 13 years old on thea that was over 13 yrs ago i’m sure her hair has grown back form that hair cut,some of yall love hating and saying stuppit shit when it come to brandy
i’m so glad that they posted some of brandy good picture for a change,cause they allway look over her good pics in post the worst,everybody beautieful even sareena,brandy i’m still waiting on some new music
loved the song you did with diddy
@ AFRO J.
SO CONSIDERING IM MIXED WITH CREOLE, CAJUN, ITALIAN, AND BLACK… I SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE THIS AGENDA….
MONDAY: WHITE
TUESDAY: FRENCH
WEDNESDAY:NATIVE AMERICAN INDIAN
THURSDAY:BLACK
FRIDAY: SPANISH
SATURDAY: ITALIAN
SUNDAY: SHOULD BE MY OFF DAY! YAAY
WTF, THAT HAS GOT TO BE THE MOST FOOLISH AND IGNORANT POST I HAVE EVER READ. BUT THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME KNOW I NEED TO PICK SIDES
BUT WHAT SIDE DO YOU LIKE BEST, SO THAT WAY ILL BE SURE TO PICK THAT SIDE…
@ BILL
WELL U SEEM TO KNOW THAT UR WRONG SO I CANT SAY MUCH…BUT ILL PRAY CUZ THE STUFF IVE READ TODAY HAS ME WONDERING WHAT KINDA STUPID UNDEREDUCATED WORLD WE LIVE IN THIS IS WHY I ALWAYS STUGGLE TO NOT HATE HUMANITY, JUST FUCKIN EMBARRASSING
@ AFRO J.
SO CONSIDERING IM MIXED WITH CREOLE, CAJUN, ITALIAN, AND BLACK… I SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE THIS AGENDA….
MONDAY: WHITE
TUESDAY: FRENCH
WEDNESDAY:NATIVE AMERICAN INDIAN
THURSDAY:BLACK
FRIDAY: SPANISH
SATURDAY: ITALIAN
SUNDAY: SHOULD BE MY OFF DAY! YAAY
WTF, THAT HAS GOT TO BE THE MOST FOOLISH AND IGNORANT POST I HAVE EVER READ. BUT THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME KNOW I NEED TO PICK SIDES
BUT WHAT SIDE DO YOU LIKE BEST, SO THAT WAY ILL BE SURE TO PICK THAT SIDE…
@ BILL
WELL U SEEM TO KNOW THAT U NEED TO WORK ON SOME THINGS SO I CANT SAY MUCH…BUT ILL PRAY CUZ THE STUFF IVE READ TODAY HAS ME WONDERING WHAT KINDA STUPID POORLY EDUCATED WORLD WE LIVE IN THIS IS WHY I ALWAYS STRUGGLE TO NOT HATE HUMANITY, JUST FUCKIN EMBARRASSING
OKAY. I AM GETTIN SO SICK OF PEOPLE TALKIN ABOUT HOW HALLE SWITCHES FROM BLACK TO WHITE AND HOW SHE SHOULD “PICK A SIDE.” HEEELLLLLOOOO?!? SHE’S MIXED!!!! HER MOMMA IS WHITE! WHY SHOULD SHE ONLY “ACT” BLACK OR ONLY “ACT WHITE?” IF YOU ARE BI-RACIAL, THEN ACCEPT AND APPRECIATE BOTH SIDES NOT JUST ONE. THAT WAS A VERY IGNORANT COMMENT WHOEVER SAID THAT HALLE SHOULD PICK A SIDE AND STICK WITH IT. SUCH A DUMBASS COMMENT!
AND BY THE WAY, ALL THE WOMEN LOOK GREAT! NICE POST!
I just want to say that if halle is happy let her be. i never thought i would fall in love with a white dude but i did. when i look at my boyfriend i don’t see race. i see a man i love that holds me down and allows me to do the same for him.
I’ll admit I know it’s hard on men because so many women disrepect each other by disrepecting marriage. That’s why so many black relationships are messed up! I hear women placing bets to get married men. It’s all about respect! I love hearing perspectives from a man’s point of view (I’m a psych major, so I messing with people’s heads..lol)!!
@ HOTTNESS
Chill sweetie, nobody’s hating on Brandy! All we saying is that we haven’t seen her hair in over 10 years..lol!!! I’m wearing weave to grow my hair since I’m transitioning to natural and my hair has grown extremely fast in 6 months! I know her hair is long if she’s taking care of it right.
And you’re right, Kelly will NEVER be as big as Brandy because Kelly’s a follower not a leader.
Everyone looks good. I like how Serena looks these days. Now Bill, you know that Garcelle is married to a white man, don’t you? And Morris Chestnut is not married to Monica Calhoun. But that doesn’t really matter.
The other photos of Serena/Brandy and Ciara are cute. Halle gets on my last nerve too sometimes. Bad pix of the two. There are others of them recently taken which are better of them furniture shopping or grocery shopping, where he is actually pushing the grocery cart behind her. it kind a looks cute. Couldn’t care less if they’re an interracial couple and am happy for him. Although, the something new thing is like something has always been missing or like something phoney—they have never looked like they have belonged together regardless of all the past comments on this site. Something just doesn’t feel right.
Aside from that…
LOL—There’s even some white Canadian dude who’s totally whacked that has a blog on the internet saying Halle’s so in love with him, etc. for several months and wanted to deny Halle’s association with Aubry and some whacked govt. conspiracy keeping them apart (yeah a restraining or gag order). Actually, I shouldn’t dog the guy, he needs help. I am surprised he hasn’t said that Halle is trying to make him jealous by going out w/Aubry or is dating Aubry to keep him away from her. \
Hey all…sorry about that….Guess we’ll have to continue to see how things unfolds for Halle and her boo.
i just want know why ppl allways trys to hate on brandy i’m not her biggest fan but clearly some of yall just hating,cause she very pretty in these picture,she look better than what she have in alot of them pics these ppl post
I’ll admit I know it’s hard on men because so many women disrepect each other by disrepecting marriage. That’s why so many black relationships are messed up! I hear women placing bets to get married men. It’s all about respect! I love hearing perspectives from a man’s point of view (I’m a psych major, so I messing with people’s heads..lol)!!
Bill Said:
Women tend to think that all men are weak, and that we will hit it the first chance we get…
Some men take their marrige vows seriously..
I’m not going to throw away 20 years of marriage for 20 minutes of sex….That doesn’t make sense…
I love my wife too much..I love my kids too much…
But more importanly, I have too much respect for myself to ever cheat….
My wife gives me everything I need..
Why would I wander ???
She gives me extra, however & whenever…
I have to much time, effort & emotions involved to throw it all away because a short skirt temporarly confused me….
Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! I agree with everything y’all saying, but couldn’t Halle at least find a man of color? I get so pissed at her too, Bill!
I think my Boo, the head coordinator, knows how upset I get! She only does this $#!T when she sees me flirting with other women on CL! Damn, she’s worst than Beyonce following JayZ all over the planet and blockin’!
Can a brother get a hall pass?
Bill,
Never do anything to mess up your marriage! I watched Oprah yesterday and the Amish people have a 100% contentment rate when it comes to marriage. Never a single divorce! Sticking with some big azz women too!
MEATLOAF, HALLE HAD MORE THAN HER SHARE OF MEN OF COLOR, MAYBE SHE WANTED TO TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW LIKE HOW THERE ARE PLENTY OF “MEN OF COLOR” WHO CHOOSE TO ASSOCIATE THEMSELVES WITH HISPANIC AND LATINA WOMEN, BUT HEY THERES NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT IF U HAVE A PREFERENCE BUT THERE IS A SMALL LINE BETWEEN THAT AND RACISM, MAJORITY OF THE BLACK MEN I KNOW ALWAYS CALLIN OUT BLACK WOMEN THAT CHOOSE NOT TO DATE BLACK MEN BUT THEYRE THE SAME ONES LOOKIN FOR A HOT MAMI TO F***, BUT IM ONLY SPEAKIN OF THOSE WHOM I KNOW AND SEEN, NOT ALL BLACK MEN CUZ IVE MET MANY WHO ARE WONDERFUL MEN
I know Creole Cherry baby, but damn, not Halle! Let them have Remy or Whitney will be available soon! Just not the good ones like you, Halle, Gabrielle and Venus. There are some out there I don’t mind who they date! Hell, I’ll give up all the Flavor Flav women if he’ll just leave Halle alone! You see Nicole went out and found her a black man!
Angela-La knows how much this $#!T hurts! Payback is a mutha!
BOUGA….Just curious. What makes those other black female’s exotic and not Serena? I understand you aren’t attracted to her, but to say she isn’t exotic and then bring up Gabrielle Union and Kelly Rowland as examples of exotic women just doesn’t make much sense to me. They are all American as far as I know, all black and all doing very well for themselves. They are much more similar than they are different. Just my two cents.
AFRO JAMAICANO…Halle isn’t all that to me either, but I get the attraction. She certainly isn’t ugly. That is a bit much. But I like that you just don’t jump on the bandwagon. She is just one of those people that everyone seems to think is so hot and people act as if you are crazy if you don’t agree. *shrugs*
BILL…I’m not quite sure why black men would be torn up about who Halle dates. She definitely isn’t the sharpest pencil in the box and her track record is beginning to make her a little suspect IMO. When will Halle ever take responsibility? There has to be a point where you look in the mirror and see that YOU are attracting these abusive men because you haven’t changed your behavior. She has to look within and once she does her love life will be just that-a love life. Instead of just having these short term meaningless relationships every couple of months. Also, I love your honesty.
KAY…I agree. I am a huge tennis fan and I know better than most(because of those dam close-ups on ESPN)that she(Serena)needs help in the fashion department, but when all is said and done she is one of the most well-spoken, no drama black females out there. She and her sister (my favorite women’s player) are great role models.
NUBIAN…White women get abused by white spouses/partners all the time. You don’t hear them saying,” a white man hit me I’m going for only black men now.” Serioulsy, it just doesn’t happen. It just a silly excuse IMO. Date who you want to date, but don’t put an entire race down (black men) just because you like to try different flavors. Just do you. She is an adult. She doesn’t have to answer to anyone.
JC…Thanks for bringing that up. People are going to TALK once you are in the limelight so screw em’. They should do whatever makes them happy (JD&Janet)
TRINIB…Hi there. Glad to see I’m not the only Trini on board. Also, agree with the fact that CARNIVAL is the best show on earth. Have you been to Toronto Caribana?
NUBIAN…If Halle did infact say that on Oprah then she is just a stupid as I thought. I love being right all the time. Lol!
#45, Brandy was already friends with Beyonce years before she ever blew up. Brandy was also friends with Kelly before Serena was. Kelly and Serena became friends through Brandy.
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76.
J
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
damn Ciara is lookin right…dumpin Bow Wow was a good look!
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NubianQueen
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
Do I sense a heated topic about Blk women and Wht men??? LOL
j/k…but seriously, if it starts…I may read, but I will definitely refraim from posting…I just like hearing/seeing different opinions! lol
78.
mzteeairah
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
my dog looks JUST like Ciara’s dog!
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bill
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
on Thursday, October 19, 2006 @ 11:26 am
TooThru said:
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I think everyone looks nice. I ain’t mad at Halle for stepping out with the white boy. He’s kinda cute. JScene, I agree with you. I always advocate that Black women date outside their race b/c the good Black men (educated, good credit, no criminal past, no sex with other men, no baby mamas) are so few and far between. That’s just my opinion though.
Bill Said:
That comment always concerns me…
THERE are a Lot of educated Black Men with no criminal record & good credit out there !!
I’m a educator, (and I will shortly be a Doctorial canidate), but I spend a LOT of time at a major university here in new jersey…
it is literaly crawling with Black Men !!
Whenever I go to the various Step shows up & down the East coast (I’m a Kappa Alumin..KAY, for the Nupes out there), those are crawling with Black Men….
I don’t understand what the ladies are saying, when they say their are NO good black men…
Exactly Where are YOU looking ???
I suggest that you go BACK to school, and take a few extra course toward your MBA (or whatever you higheest degree level is), because the Brothers are in College !
80.
blk dds
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
#64 Bill
Like I said no biggie! You went all off and what not. I have peeps in Newark. East Orange to be exact. I know about the rate of crime there and everywhere for that matter. I don’t know if your answer in its entirety was directed toward me, but sweetie, you are not the only one on this thread who has been to college…..and graduated!
I am very aware of the way Africans perceive African-Americans. You should be as well.
No need to apologize for venting….but…..question, what did YOU do to help YOUR student BEFORE he got to that point of “y’all” going to court “AGAIN” for hustlin’?
You’re on here venting about how disgusted you are and black this and black that. Shouldn’t you become more involved with your world and YOUR students out there? They are way more important than this “black gossip blog” right here.
Seriously, I love CL “lord knows I do” but I don’t take it home with me. EVER!
Not cussing you out or arguing…..I’m just sayin’.
No biggie.
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nubian
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
i think maybe Halle is just trying “something new”. She’s been with how many black men? …who have disrespected her and cheated on her repeatedly? I can’t lie, after I got divorced I went on a date with a white guy…ONE date! But then you try to picture yourself being intimate with this person and it just wasn’t working for me. I’m embarrassed that I felt that way too but it’s just a matter of personal preference.
82.
itzzzkimmm
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
Wow Serena actually looks really nice. She should definitely stay this way because she looks FABULOUS!!!
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Lady J
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
LOL @ # 80.
I know that’s right, CL stays @ the work place and is here when I return.
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afro jamaicano
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
see people if BILL agrees w/ me then im def right haha
also i jus noticed brandy’s shoes, haha girl’s shoe-game is on point!!
85.
nubian
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
Bill…clue me in on the university that’s crawling with Black Men! Lol!
86.
bill
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
on Thursday, October 19, 2006 @ 11:49 am
nubian said:
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Bill…clue me in on the university that’s crawling with Black Men! Lol!
Bill Said:
When I go to tutor/mentor my Kappa Undergraduates, I see a LOT of greek brothers (Kappa, Sigma, Omega & Alpha’s) looking for girls at the following schools
LIU in Brooklyn (flatbush Ave)
Fordham University
Pace University
Montclair State University
Rutgers University
Kean University
Jersey City State
87.
JC
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
@72 you mentioned date outside your race, but your own race will be annoyed by it…how do you explain Janet and JD. People stay talking about them.
88.
NubianQueen
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
LOL…I just realized that I have a similar username as Nubian….just to clear it up…we are two different people! LOL (No offense, Nubian—I havent even read any comments, I just saw sum1 reply to u and I thought they meant me!
89.
NubianQueen
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
Okay, where the heck did 1NubianQueen come from?!!! Im going to change my name ASAP!
PS: R yall tryna be funny? Or is nubian the new pink?! LOL
90.
NewNubianEmpress
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
There!
Signed,
Former “NubianQueen”
91.
MAHOGANY
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
Hey isn’t Halle biracial/mixed race, whatever you prefer? So how is she dating outside of her own race? Just askin……..
92.
bill
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
on Thursday, October 19, 2006 @ 11:55 am
JC said:
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@72 you mentioned date outside your race, but your own race will be annoyed by it…how do you explain Janet and JD. People stay talking about them.
Bill Said:
I said that this is something that I will have to work on..I don’t like feeling that way about interracial dating, because it NO ONES business who you date….I guess what I was trying to demonstrate is despite our best intentions, we ALL have certain prejudices..I think that once one admit that, he can THEN start to correct those IGNORANT feelings..
That said, I’m confused by your question..
Isn’t Janet & JD (Jermain Dupree) both BLACK ??
93.
jscene
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
@ 72 Bill
Are you annoyed at Halle because the guy is “white?” Seriously, how is she parading him around? The pictures that are taken are from paparazzi; they are candid shots! They are not posing for these pictures, nor do you see this guy all up and through hollywood with Halle. You are far more intelligent than that remark you made, or at least i thought, so you should TRY AND CONTROL YOUR DISTAIN FOR BLACK WOMEN DATING OUTSIDE OUR RACE.
Funny…..i never heard you make a comment about none of these pictures on here with black athletes or entertainers dating and being constantly photographed with those so called “trophy white women,” with their homly played out asses! Get a grip brother!
@afro jamaicano
you speak like a straight fool! Every time i’ve heard Halle speak, it’s always the same, what do you mean switching from black to white! You sound like a zip dang fool!
I APPLAUD HALLE…SHE JUST WANTS TO BE HAPPY.
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NewNubianEmpress
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
@87…huh? Did you mean another couple. Janet and JD are both BLACK!
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bill
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
So now we have :
Nubian Queen
Nubian Princess
New Nubian Emperess !!
That’s Just Wonderful !!!
I love it !!!
Black Woman are reclaiming their rightful role as the QUEEN of Modern Civilization.
Name it & Claim it!
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NewNubianEmpress
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
@95 Thanks, Bill!
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hazel eyez
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
I think everyone looks nice.
1st Serena and Brandy looks stress free (that’s a good thang). Also waiting on the new album.
2nd Halle do you boo! She tried the blk man & he did not treat her right. Find love where you can, I aint mad at you. She is white as well as being black, she don’t have to pick a side, society does that for her. There is nothing wrong with doing both use it to your advantage girl.
3rd Ciara, ugh. Who cares who’s she dating, I like the dog better than her. She can’t sing and has no talent!!!! NOW
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JC
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
@92 that was my point. They are both black and people still get annoyed or hate on them. Just like Halle’s relationship annoys some people. I think people will not like certain people together regardless of color.
99.
bill
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
on Thursday, October 19, 2006 @ 12:06 pm
jscene said:
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@ 72 Bill
Are you annoyed at Halle because the guy is “white?” Seriously, how is she parading him around? The pictures that are taken are from paparazzi; they are candid shots! They are not posing for these pictures, nor do you see this guy all up and through hollywood with Halle. You are far more intelligent than that remark you made, or at least i thought, so you should TRY AND CONTROL YOUR DISTAIN FOR BLACK WOMEN DATING OUTSIDE OUR RACE.
Bill Said:
Sometimes, I have RARE momments where I was not operating intelligently…
I will be the FIRST to admit, that that is not a cool way to feel, but nevertheless I feel that way.
Yes, it is IGNORANT of me to have a disdain for interacial dating…
Yes, It is ignorant of me to be MORE concerned when it involves a Black Female
Yes, This is something that I will need to work on.
100.
trinib
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
Serena and Brandy looks nice but would love to see some celebs with their real hair when slumming….
Don’t know how this turn into inter-racial dating…
U go Halle…variety is the spice of life….if he makes u happy who cares….now dick size would be problematic for me to switch over…but to each his own.
There are good black men out there but most times we balck women spend so much time complaining we don’t stop to take a look….and our list of criteria could be damn exhausting….I said “WE” so nobody get offended please…I included myself.
So Bill….which islands have that look…cause I’ve been to ‘islands’…shoot i live on one…and we pretty much cover all looks…..
Btw, it’s the inter-racial mixes from way back that produces the true ‘island’ look….
101.
NewNubianEmpress
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
JC said:
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@92 that was my point. They are both black and people still get annoyed or hate on them. Just like Halle’s relationship annoys some people. I think people will not like certain people together regardless of color
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People hate on JJ and JD?! That’s news to me. I guess you learn something everyday.
Also, I tried not to comment but It’s hard so I’ll just try to say this on dating outside of your race:
I, too, as Bill and Afro am bothered by the idea. But who gives a rat’s ass about what I think but me, right?? LOL—Well, ppl have the freedom to date whomever they want publicly or privately, BUT
WHEN PPL IN GENERAL (Not talking about Halle b/c I could care less about her relationships, OR ANYONE else’s for that matter) BEGIN TO EQUATE A CERTAIN RACE WITH CERTAIN FAVORABLE/UNFAVORABLE QUALITIES, IT BECOMES A DANGEROUS, MIND-ALTERING OVER-GENERALIZATION.
For example: say you date blk men and they mistreat you, but then you find that Latino men do the same thing, but white men THAT YOU DATE treat you better…it’s only a matter of time before you find out that the silver lining in one of your potential relationships was just some shiny ass aluminum foil…meaning…don’t equate race or any other charateristic, ie: monetary status, profession, etc… with the way a person will treat you b/c it ALWAYS BACKFIRES!
102.
bill
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
on Thursday, October 19, 2006 @ 12:15 pm
JC said:
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@92 that was my point. They are both black and people still get annoyed or hate on them. Just like Halle’s relationship annoys some people. I think people will not like certain people together regardless of color.
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Bill Said:
Point taken.
Excellant analogy…
Just last week, Angel.la posted a picture of Serena & some Caucasian Man.
At the time I stated “Good Riddance”, because I could care less about Serena Williams…
If Beyonce dated a white man, I would feel the same way..”Good Riddance..
Halle is a sore point with me, because I’ve hada crush on her since Boomerange, and I feel as though she turned her back on the Black Race…
See…I’m Pro Black.
My House is Black..My sheets are black..Everything in my house is black…I’m the First person out the door for a Black Cause…I go to the Million Man March EVERY YEAR…..
Sometimes Being so Pro Black conflicts with me be a Christian, which means I must love EVERYBODY, including people I don’t like or agree with , e.g Homosexuals, Whoremongers,ec…
So I admit to having certain prejudices..These are the things that I must work on and check myself with on a daily basis…
103.
JC
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
@101 yest they get hated on, made fun off. Questions get raised as to why she is with him….cuz she love him.
104.
jscene
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
@ BILL
It’s mighty big of you brother to admit your short comings…i applaud you for that. The way you feel is the way a lot of black men feel; they want and enjoy the freedom to date any race, however, they act like it’s a cardinal sin for a black woman to date anyone other than a black man….it’s so sad. To each their own. We are all the same, we just have a different color coatings. Consider this:
Bill, you’re a woman just for this example, and you’re waiting for the train. The train comes along but it’s white and you’re black, you past on it saying, I’m waiting for a black train, you can go please.” The white train is going to serve the same purpose as the black train; both are going to get you want you want, from point a to b. The same with races, if the white person treats you well and gives you what you want, why past it up? And don’t get me started about the black man shortage!!!!!!!!! Lord knows we have reason to be dating any and everybody at this point!
I hope you really work on your feelings about interracial dating cause if you don’t already have a daughter, you might have a daughter one day and she might decide to date outside her race (cause the black man shortage gone be off the chain for sure by then - hell their might be ONE BLACK MAN LEFT) and when/if she does, i hope you can see the big picture and that her happiness and the treatment she’s receiving is the point.
105.
Goliano
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
Serena’s a cutie.
106.
Disappointed
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
Brandy looks like Freedy Kuger in brown.
107.
NewNubianEmpress
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
#114…I never knew that…I mean @ first I thought that maybe ppl would talk about the height but Janet is only 4′11″, so….
but yea, when you love someone, you love them and Im pretty sure that it hurts when ppl try to tell you otherwise (I’ve been there…and I am still here lol)
Albeit, I see your point clearly now.
Sidebar: Is Halle’s bf the guy from Something New? I see a lot of illusions to the movie and Im not sure if its b/c of the bw/wm dual or b/c he is the guy from the movie.
Thanks for the answer in advance!
108.
Coffy
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
i am all for Bill feeling the way he feels, and at least saying that he doesn’t like the fact he feels that way. far too many people have negative feelings and don’t challenge themselves to figure out why the have those feelings.
109.
bill
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
on Thursday, October 19, 2006 @ 12:17 pm
trinib said:
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So Bill….which islands have that look…cause I’ve been to ‘islands’…shoot i live on one…and we pretty much cover all looks…..
Bill Said:
I love Island Woman…They are so willing to teach you new things…
I love the Island way of looking at things, and the way that Island people talk.
Most of all, I admire Islanders PRIDE in their country & heritage.
Nassau Bahamas is a favorite place of mine to visit.
Bahamians are the most PROUD people I’ve ever had the pleasure to meet.
Bahamas is SO clean…You can eat off the sidewalk…And everything down their is colorful….
I’ve never beento Trinidad, Jamaica or Hati, But I have near & dear friends from each oth these islands….
There’s just something about an Island woman that I like..I like the fact that they can cook, and they always look at men like “Brother, I will wear you out”.
They speak their mind, and they don’t beat around the bush..And Island woman will tell you “I want to make love to you”…They are just so forward and passive agressive….
It’s Just their way..
SOMETIMES Americanized black women come off as stuck up, angry & arrogant….It’s really hard to have a conversation….You have to get past their ego first..
I think that comes from their perception that all Black men are dogs, and we just want the panties…
Hell, I married…
I don’t want anything, but a good conversation and/or debate…
110.
NewNubianEmpress
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
I meant #103! LOL
111.
XcuseMeMiss86
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
TO BILL:
I love your point of view (even tho you’re a kappa, I have some serious issues with them, but anyways..) You speak the truth! I’m in college Bill, and yes, it does appear to be alot of good black men, but ACTUALLY most of them are full of shit and are man-whores.
TO GIRLBLUE,
Why you hating so much!
ATTENTION!!
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY! Serena, Brandy, and Ciara have decent looking weaves!
Everybody leave Halle alone. She’s been through some drama with black men, let’s be happy that she found love (hopefully)! The way black men are acting, I think most black women should starting looking outside color lines. Then maybe they’ll starting respecting us.
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jscene
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
@ newnubianempress
No, halle’s guy is not the guy from the movie “something new.” I don’t know if you use to watch “sex in the city,” but he’s the younger guy samantha (kim cattrail) dated for the last season (he played a model who was all over billboards on the show)…
113.
NewNubianEmpress
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
thanks @ jscene! I haven’t watched Sex in the City in a while and I am not that familiar with the characters, but I will have to goggle him! lol—thanx again
114.
bill
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
on Thursday, October 19, 2006 @ 12:29 pm
jscene said:
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@ BILL
It’s mighty big of you brother to admit your short comings…i applaud you for that. The way you feel is the way a lot of black men feel; they want and enjoy the freedom to date any race, however, they act like it’s a cardinal sin for a black woman to date anyone other than a black man….it’s so sad. To each their own. We are all the same, we just have a different color coatings. Consider this:
Bill, you’re a woman just for this example, and you’re waiting for the train. The train comes along but it’s white and you’re black, you past on it saying, I’m waiting for a black train, you can go please.” The white train is going to serve the same purpose as the black train; both are going to get you want you want, from point a to b. The same with races, if the white person treats you well and gives you what you want, why past it up? And don’t get me started about the black man shortage!!!!!!!!! Lord knows we have reason to be dating any and everybody at this point!
I hope you really work on your feelings about interracial dating cause if you don’t already have a daughter, you might have a daughter one day and she might decide to date outside her race (cause the black man shortage gone be off the chain for sure by then - hell their might be ONE BLACK MAN LEFT) and when/if she does, i hope you can see the big picture and that her happiness and the treatment she’s receiving is the point.
Bill Said:
Without being to transparent, one of the reason why I feel this way was that an OLD girlfriend of mine cheated on me with a Caucasian Man…
You know the drill…He had money and a car…At the time I was a struggling student with student loans and a beat down toyota Camry…
It’s too painful to talk about, cause I was head over hills in LIKE with this chick….Thank God it worked out the way it did..Her girlfriend told me about the affair, consoled me, comforted me, and eventually married me…..She had known all along about the affair, and waited for the right opportunity to make her move (my wife).
Anyways,
My Wife tells me ALL the Time “God has a way of dealing with your funky attitudes about people”…
God forbid My daughter comes home with a White boyfriend,or my son comes home and annoces that he gay..
That’s why I ALWAYS have to confess to God and to people that I’m not perfect, that some things in my head are “off” for whatever reason…So that that Thing that I’m having a “Issue” with doesn’t come back and bite me in the butt….
“Give us THIS day, our daily bread, and FORGIVE us are TRESPASSES, and we forgive those who Tresspass against us” . That is an except of the Lord’s Prayer..I have to pray that prayer EVERYDAY, two or three times a day….
Whenever i see yet another Homosexual sashay past me or hit on me, I must pray that prayer…
Whenever I see thingsor PEOPLE I don’t like I have to pray that prayer…..
I’m Just being transparent for a momment, exposing my own human frailities…
Peace
115.
Lady J
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
Yeah BIll Nassau Bahamas IS Beautiful but they have a ghetto in their own. I went in August and the tour guide took us through the ghetto and we were in amazement. They were trying to sell us weed from the bus, it was crazy.
All in all Nassau is a beautiful place and especially Atlantis. The island men are funny and I love the way they talk and “tings” lol.
116.
nubian
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
…after the movie Something New came out Halle discussed interracial dating on Oprah and referred to it as “something new”. At the time I didn’t realize that she was dating a white guy though.
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trinib
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
why thank u Bill….pity some brothers over her don’t appreciate our speaking our minds….
Wait a minute….I was told by African American guys that I look evil…lol….I guess they miss interpret the “wear u out” look….but I would…hehehe…and the accent gets them everytime…
Well, u and your wife are welcome to trinidad anytime…Gabrielle Union comes for carnival…tempting huh???
CARNIVAL…best motherfucking show on earth…yes I said it..WHAT?
118.
XcuseMeMiss86
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
To Bill:
I feel you about being cheating on! But it doesn’t mean you should frown upon all white/black relationships.
I have had my heart broken twice in 2 years by successful attractive college black men who were kappa (they went to different schools). That was REALLY hard, I’m still trying to get over it, but does it make it fair to say that all kappas are assholes (even tho I do think it)?
That’s why I can’t stand when adults who are not undergraduates say that there are plenty of good black men because they have NO IDEA how it REALLY is…
So let’s be happy for anyone who finds love despite of skin color but true love is HARD TO FIND!!
I figure you would hopefully understand my point since you are a kappa.
119.
bill
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
on Thursday, October 19, 2006 @ 12:52 pm
trinib said:
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why thank u Bill….pity some brothers over her don’t appreciate our speaking our minds….
Wait a minute….I was told by African American guys that I look evil…lol….I guess they miss interpret the “wear u out” look….but I would…hehehe…and the accent gets them everytime…
Well, u and your wife are welcome to trinidad anytime…Gabrielle Union comes for carnival…tempting huh???
CARNIVAL…best motherfucking show on earth…yes I said it..WHAT?
Bill Said:
I learned YEARS ago (before I was married)
that Carribean woman will Feed you, then F_ck you…
I think that is a wonderful trait for a WIFE to have !!!!
Trinidad is NEXT on my wish list of places to go..
Talking with people like you and Nix makes me want to know MORE about the islands…
Concreteloop is a GREAT place to get an educations about different cultures & nationalities…
I have spoken to Blacks from literaly every nation on CL..And that a VERY good thing !!!
120.
pamurdoch
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
Halle’s boyfriend was not in Sex and The City. He is a model and they met while doing the Versace campaign. I believe the guy from SATC is/was dating Rosario Dawson.
121.
bill
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
on Thursday, October 19, 2006 @ 12:53 pm
XcuseMeMiss86 said:
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To Bill:
I feel you about being cheating on! But it doesn’t mean you should frown upon all white/black relationships.
I have had my heart broken twice in 2 years by successful attractive college black men who were kappa (they went to different schools). That was REALLY hard, I’m still trying to get over it, but does it make it fair to say that all kappas are assholes (even tho I do think it)?
That’s why I can’t stand when adults who are not undergraduates say that there are plenty of good black men because they have NO IDEA how it REALLY is…
So let’s be happy for anyone who finds love despite of skin color but true love is HARD TO FIND!!
I figure you would hopefully understand my point since you are a kappa.
Bill Said:
I understand completely….
Before I put on my Kappa Jacket and pick up my Kapa Kane, I didn’t get NO play….
As SOON as a “crossed over” into Kappa Heaven, Woman were THROWING the P_ssy at me…..
All Greeks get serious sexual healing on Campus…
Your right…A lot of Kappa’s are “Playboy’s”..We (the Kappa’s) are currently trying to avoid a lawsuite form the Playboy Corporation for using the Playboy logo on our correspondence….It’s a Legend & Culture that has been passed down from generation to generation, from line to line…..I slept with every one of my “Kappa Sweethearts” (Those are the girls that help you to “go over”). I’m not proud to admit that, but’s it true…What’s REALLY painful is seeing them at the mall, movies, resturants with their husband and kids….I can’t even look them in the eyes, cause we did some really nasty things….
But, anyways, yes.I understand what you saying about my brothers….It took the Lord Jesus Christ to MAKE me change…Sex is addicitve, especially when you can get it when you want, and HOW you want it…
It’s funny how having Jesus in your life will change your outlook.
What’s even funnier is now that I have DAUGHTERS, I had to LEARN to RESPECT women and not treat them as my personnel play thing…
I hope you understand where I’m coming from.
I don’t know if my apology can heal you of your hurt, caused by other Kappas, but if it DOES help, I apologize to all the women that I used and abused when I was young & dumb….
Selah,
Peace
122.
trinib
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
have to admit XcuseMeMiss86 that getting your heart broken is messed up…but u can’t give up on all of our black brothers….may sound trivial but sometimes u just have to love,learn and move on….
There are some good frat boys but they usually go unnoticed for the pretty or player type….I went to a university in the US….i remember telling a boy when he pledged that now he would have to get a catcher’s mit for all the pussy thrown his way (Best Man is my flick)….he was considered a ‘nerd’ before pledging (and got a car) so i have to wonder if some women are to blamed for the perception of frat boys(any fraternity)…I’m not from that culture so maybe one day someone would explain it to me(can’t hate I wanted to be an honoree frat-girl…something about being spanked with the paddle…lol)
And to all my CL people….despite what country…….all ah we is one family
123.
SUGA BUGA
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
the last time I saw Brandys hair was when she was on the show Thea. I have not seen her real hair since, so Im thinking… shouldnt be as long as the weave by now!!?
124.
XcuseMeMiss86
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
@ Bill
I understand. I’m glad you’re a changed man, and I appreciate your apology! Greek life is so complicated, I really had to consider my decision to go Greek (hopefully the sorority will have a line next spring) but anyways…
Some girls are groupies, and chase guys because of their letters, and when they get played, I don’t feel bad because their intentions were wrong…
But what is screwed up is when good girls get caught up in the game and don’t even know it, that was where I was. Some guys are professional liars and know how to con women, but what goes around, comes around.
I don’t know, I’m starting to lose my faith in black men.
Anyways I’m rambling, I don’t even know what my point is but I do appreciate your apology…
125.
Kassey
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
lol @ #123! At least she’s eating…well I didn’t see any food but hopefully she did. Everybody else looks good…Ciara’s dog is so cute!
126.
XcuseMeMiss86
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
LOL @ Sugabuga! Last time I saw Brandy’s hair…lol! Pure comedy!!
127.
hottness
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
no mattle how ugly yall may say brandy is or bald headed,or how beautieful yall may say kelly rowland, is kelly rowland will never have a solo caree like brandy in her life,i don’t get why when people see brandy name they always have to bring up kelly rowland name like kelly someone that brandy is jealous of,cause kelly anit shit without destiny’s child,and as far as getting in with beyonce everybody don’t kiss her ass like kelly rowland does,now secretly kelly rowland want to beyonce,cause i know she tide of hearing beyonce & destiny’s child in that how its allways going to be,an brandy and & Sarena been friendy way before kelly and sareena,kelly meet sareena threw brandy
128.
bill
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
on Thursday, October 19, 2006 @ 1:13 pm
trinib said:
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have to admit XcuseMeMiss86 that getting your heart broken is messed up…but u can’t give up on all of our black brothers….may sound trivial but sometimes u just have to love,learn and move on….
There are some good frat boys but they usually go unnoticed for the pretty or player type….I went to a university in the US….i remember telling a boy when he pledged that now he would have to get a catcher’s mit for all the pussy thrown his way (Best Man is my flick)….he was considered a ‘nerd’ before pledging (and got a car) so i have to wonder if some women are to blamed for the perception of frat boys(any fraternity)…I’m not from that culture so maybe one day someone would explain it to me(can’t hate I wanted to be an honoree frat-girl…something about being spanked with the paddle…lol)
And to all my CL people….despite what country…….all ah we is one family
Bill Said:
She’s RIGHT.
I din’t get NO P_ssy in High School…
I wasn’t a nerd, but I was into my Books, and I was so stressed about getting into the “right” college that I let a lot of things slip by me…..
Soon as I pledged, My ENTIRE world changed…Girls started asking me out, and every night was an adventure…..
I THINK the reason why I’m so into Jesus nw is because I’m so guilt about whatI did during my college years….
Woman like a man with Confidence & Swagger….
That’s the appeal with Frat Men..The arrogance & the aroma of sexual availability
Book worms don’t excite women at all….Guys that work all the time or who are into their computers to much turn woman off…A woman will be DRAWN to a man that has 3-5 girlfriends, because she will wonder “What all the fuse is about”…I learned that the more woman you sleep with the more women TALK about your conquest, exploits & TECHNIQUE, the more OTHER women will want to be with you….
You know what another magnet for women ???
A Wedding Band…..
Don’t get me started.
Everyday, I have to turn down request.
Do you know how PAINFUL that is ???
129.
Queshia
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
Love the hair Brandy. Can’t wait for new music you have been on the scene long enough to have your own secure spot. “been paid for”. Serena is looking a lot softer lately > good for her. TOO many musles = manly.
130.
hottness
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
yall some hating ass bitches yall don’t know how long brandy hair is,yall haven’t seen her natural hair since since she was 13 years old on thea that was over 13 yrs ago i’m sure her hair has grown back form that hair cut,some of yall love hating and saying stuppit shit when it come to brandy
131.
bill
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
let me go visit my classrooms before I get myself in trouble….
Gotta get back to work…
Peace
132.
romeo
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
i’m so glad that they posted some of brandy good picture for a change,cause they allway look over her good pics in post the worst,everybody beautieful even sareena,brandy i’m still waiting on some new music
loved the song you did with diddy
133.
creole_cherry
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
@ AFRO J.
SO CONSIDERING IM MIXED WITH CREOLE, CAJUN, ITALIAN, AND BLACK… I SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE THIS AGENDA….
MONDAY: WHITE
TUESDAY: FRENCH
WEDNESDAY:NATIVE AMERICAN INDIAN
THURSDAY:BLACK
FRIDAY: SPANISH
SATURDAY: ITALIAN
SUNDAY: SHOULD BE MY OFF DAY! YAAY
WTF, THAT HAS GOT TO BE THE MOST FOOLISH AND IGNORANT POST I HAVE EVER READ. BUT THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME KNOW I NEED TO PICK SIDES
BUT WHAT SIDE DO YOU LIKE BEST, SO THAT WAY ILL BE SURE TO PICK THAT SIDE…
@ BILL
WELL U SEEM TO KNOW THAT UR WRONG SO I CANT SAY MUCH…BUT ILL PRAY CUZ THE STUFF IVE READ TODAY HAS ME WONDERING WHAT KINDA STUPID UNDEREDUCATED WORLD WE LIVE IN THIS IS WHY I ALWAYS STUGGLE TO NOT HATE HUMANITY, JUST FUCKIN EMBARRASSING
134.
creole_cherry
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
@ AFRO J.
SO CONSIDERING IM MIXED WITH CREOLE, CAJUN, ITALIAN, AND BLACK… I SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE THIS AGENDA….
MONDAY: WHITE
TUESDAY: FRENCH
WEDNESDAY:NATIVE AMERICAN INDIAN
THURSDAY:BLACK
FRIDAY: SPANISH
SATURDAY: ITALIAN
SUNDAY: SHOULD BE MY OFF DAY! YAAY
WTF, THAT HAS GOT TO BE THE MOST FOOLISH AND IGNORANT POST I HAVE EVER READ. BUT THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME KNOW I NEED TO PICK SIDES
BUT WHAT SIDE DO YOU LIKE BEST, SO THAT WAY ILL BE SURE TO PICK THAT SIDE…
@ BILL
WELL U SEEM TO KNOW THAT U NEED TO WORK ON SOME THINGS SO I CANT SAY MUCH…BUT ILL PRAY CUZ THE STUFF IVE READ TODAY HAS ME WONDERING WHAT KINDA STUPID POORLY EDUCATED WORLD WE LIVE IN THIS IS WHY I ALWAYS STRUGGLE TO NOT HATE HUMANITY, JUST FUCKIN EMBARRASSING
135.
creole_cherry
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
LOL SORRY FOR 2POST, BUT IM GLAD BILL REALIZED HE IS WRONG N NEED TO WORK ON THINGS
136.
concretestone
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
Everyone looks great!
137.
FairGame
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
OKAY. I AM GETTIN SO SICK OF PEOPLE TALKIN ABOUT HOW HALLE SWITCHES FROM BLACK TO WHITE AND HOW SHE SHOULD “PICK A SIDE.” HEEELLLLLOOOO?!? SHE’S MIXED!!!! HER MOMMA IS WHITE! WHY SHOULD SHE ONLY “ACT” BLACK OR ONLY “ACT WHITE?” IF YOU ARE BI-RACIAL, THEN ACCEPT AND APPRECIATE BOTH SIDES NOT JUST ONE. THAT WAS A VERY IGNORANT COMMENT WHOEVER SAID THAT HALLE SHOULD PICK A SIDE AND STICK WITH IT. SUCH A DUMBASS COMMENT!
AND BY THE WAY, ALL THE WOMEN LOOK GREAT! NICE POST!
138.
Remy314
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
I just want to say that if halle is happy let her be. i never thought i would fall in love with a white dude but i did. when i look at my boyfriend i don’t see race. i see a man i love that holds me down and allows me to do the same for him.
139.
XcuseMeMiss86
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
@ BILL
I’ll admit I know it’s hard on men because so many women disrepect each other by disrepecting marriage. That’s why so many black relationships are messed up! I hear women placing bets to get married men. It’s all about respect! I love hearing perspectives from a man’s point of view (I’m a psych major, so I messing with people’s heads..lol)!!
@ HOTTNESS
Chill sweetie, nobody’s hating on Brandy! All we saying is that we haven’t seen her hair in over 10 years..lol!!! I’m wearing weave to grow my hair since I’m transitioning to natural and my hair has grown extremely fast in 6 months! I know her hair is long if she’s taking care of it right.
And you’re right, Kelly will NEVER be as big as Brandy because Kelly’s a follower not a leader.
Damn, I’m addicted to CL! Love the site Angel.LA!
140.
Danielle
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
Everyone looks good. I like how Serena looks these days. Now Bill, you know that Garcelle is married to a white man, don’t you? And Morris Chestnut is not married to Monica Calhoun. But that doesn’t really matter.
141.
filmdiva2006
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
The other photos of Serena/Brandy and Ciara are cute. Halle gets on my last nerve too sometimes. Bad pix of the two. There are others of them recently taken which are better of them furniture shopping or grocery shopping, where he is actually pushing the grocery cart behind her. it kind a looks cute. Couldn’t care less if they’re an interracial couple and am happy for him. Although, the something new thing is like something has always been missing or like something phoney—they have never looked like they have belonged together regardless of all the past comments on this site. Something just doesn’t feel right.
Aside from that…
LOL—There’s even some white Canadian dude who’s totally whacked that has a blog on the internet saying Halle’s so in love with him, etc. for several months and wanted to deny Halle’s association with Aubry and some whacked govt. conspiracy keeping them apart (yeah a restraining or gag order). Actually, I shouldn’t dog the guy, he needs help. I am surprised he hasn’t said that Halle is trying to make him jealous by going out w/Aubry or is dating Aubry to keep him away from her. \
Hey all…sorry about that….Guess we’ll have to continue to see how things unfolds for Halle and her boo.
142.
sheneice
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
BRANDY LOOKS BEAUTIFUL I LOVE HER SWEATER AND FOR A CHANGE SERENA LOOKS NICE ALSO
143.
omari
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
i just want know why ppl allways trys to hate on brandy i’m not her biggest fan but clearly some of yall just hating,cause she very pretty in these picture,she look better than what she have in alot of them pics these ppl post
144.
bill
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
on Thursday, October 19, 2006 @ 2:10 pm
creole_cherry said:
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LOL SORRY FOR 2POST, BUT IM GLAD BILL REALIZED HE IS WRONG N NEED TO WORK ON THINGS
Bill Said:
I only human…
Pray my strength in the Lord !
145.
bill
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
on Thursday, October 19, 2006 @ 2:26 pm
XcuseMeMiss86 said:
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@ BILL
I’ll admit I know it’s hard on men because so many women disrepect each other by disrepecting marriage. That’s why so many black relationships are messed up! I hear women placing bets to get married men. It’s all about respect! I love hearing perspectives from a man’s point of view (I’m a psych major, so I messing with people’s heads..lol)!!
Bill Said:
Women tend to think that all men are weak, and that we will hit it the first chance we get…
Some men take their marrige vows seriously..
I’m not going to throw away 20 years of marriage for 20 minutes of sex….That doesn’t make sense…
I love my wife too much..I love my kids too much…
But more importanly, I have too much respect for myself to ever cheat….
My wife gives me everything I need..
Why would I wander ???
She gives me extra, however & whenever…
I have to much time, effort & emotions involved to throw it all away because a short skirt temporarly confused me….
It’s just not worth it….
146.
Meatloaf
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! I agree with everything y’all saying, but couldn’t Halle at least find a man of color? I get so pissed at her too, Bill!
I think my Boo, the head coordinator, knows how upset I get! She only does this $#!T when she sees me flirting with other women on CL! Damn, she’s worst than Beyonce following JayZ all over the planet and blockin’!
Can a brother get a hall pass?
Bill,
Never do anything to mess up your marriage! I watched Oprah yesterday and the Amish people have a 100% contentment rate when it comes to marriage. Never a single divorce! Sticking with some big azz women too!
147.
creole_cherry
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
MEATLOAF, HALLE HAD MORE THAN HER SHARE OF MEN OF COLOR, MAYBE SHE WANTED TO TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW LIKE HOW THERE ARE PLENTY OF “MEN OF COLOR” WHO CHOOSE TO ASSOCIATE THEMSELVES WITH HISPANIC AND LATINA WOMEN, BUT HEY THERES NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT IF U HAVE A PREFERENCE BUT THERE IS A SMALL LINE BETWEEN THAT AND RACISM, MAJORITY OF THE BLACK MEN I KNOW ALWAYS CALLIN OUT BLACK WOMEN THAT CHOOSE NOT TO DATE BLACK MEN BUT THEYRE THE SAME ONES LOOKIN FOR A HOT MAMI TO F***, BUT IM ONLY SPEAKIN OF THOSE WHOM I KNOW AND SEEN, NOT ALL BLACK MEN CUZ IVE MET MANY WHO ARE WONDERFUL MEN
148.
Meatloaf
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
@147
I know Creole Cherry baby, but damn, not Halle! Let them have Remy or Whitney will be available soon! Just not the good ones like you, Halle, Gabrielle and Venus. There are some out there I don’t mind who they date! Hell, I’ll give up all the Flavor Flav women if he’ll just leave Halle alone! You see Nicole went out and found her a black man!
Angela-La knows how much this $#!T hurts! Payback is a mutha!
149.
halcyonc
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
QSB…”Elusion of inclusion” LMAO
BOUGA….Just curious. What makes those other black female’s exotic and not Serena? I understand you aren’t attracted to her, but to say she isn’t exotic and then bring up Gabrielle Union and Kelly Rowland as examples of exotic women just doesn’t make much sense to me. They are all American as far as I know, all black and all doing very well for themselves. They are much more similar than they are different. Just my two cents.
AFRO JAMAICANO…Halle isn’t all that to me either, but I get the attraction. She certainly isn’t ugly. That is a bit much. But I like that you just don’t jump on the bandwagon. She is just one of those people that everyone seems to think is so hot and people act as if you are crazy if you don’t agree. *shrugs*
BILL…I’m not quite sure why black men would be torn up about who Halle dates. She definitely isn’t the sharpest pencil in the box and her track record is beginning to make her a little suspect IMO. When will Halle ever take responsibility? There has to be a point where you look in the mirror and see that YOU are attracting these abusive men because you haven’t changed your behavior. She has to look within and once she does her love life will be just that-a love life. Instead of just having these short term meaningless relationships every couple of months. Also, I love your honesty.
KAY…I agree. I am a huge tennis fan and I know better than most(because of those dam close-ups on ESPN)that she(Serena)needs help in the fashion department, but when all is said and done she is one of the most well-spoken, no drama black females out there. She and her sister (my favorite women’s player) are great role models.
NUBIAN…White women get abused by white spouses/partners all the time. You don’t hear them saying,” a white man hit me I’m going for only black men now.” Serioulsy, it just doesn’t happen. It just a silly excuse IMO. Date who you want to date, but don’t put an entire race down (black men) just because you like to try different flavors. Just do you. She is an adult. She doesn’t have to answer to anyone.
JC…Thanks for bringing that up. People are going to TALK once you are in the limelight so screw em’. They should do whatever makes them happy (JD&Janet)
TRINIB…Hi there. Glad to see I’m not the only Trini on board. Also, agree with the fact that CARNIVAL is the best show on earth. Have you been to Toronto Caribana?
NUBIAN…If Halle did infact say that on Oprah then she is just a stupid as I thought. I love being right all the time. Lol!
150.
Elvira
Thursday, October 19, 2006 /
#45, Brandy was already friends with Beyonce years before she ever blew up. Brandy was also friends with Kelly before Serena was. Kelly and Serena became friends through Brandy.
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