MEATLOAF…You are now one of my favorites on CL. Anyone who loves my girl VENUS STAR WILLIAMS can get a pass.

@ Bill

I’m glad to see men respect marriage, gives me hope! I wish the best to you and your wife. You should consider writing a book, SERIOUSLY! “He’s not that into you” made millions…

Amen @ Creole Cherry!

Men be trippin’ if a sista dates outside of her race but brothas think we trippin’ if we call him out on it. Meatloaf, you can’t be too mad!

#149…it was just an observation. I can’t say that I’ve ever even heard Halle speak on her current relationship. I made the comment after someone else had started bashing her for dating a white guy as if she was betraying black men. This could be a boy toy to her for the time being, this could be somebody she has really connected with who knows. All I’m saying is that nobody can say that she hasn’t given a brotha a fair chance.

on Thursday, October 19, 2006 @ 3:03 pm

creole_cherry said:
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MEATLOAF, HALLE HAD MORE THAN HER SHARE OF MEN OF COLOR, MAYBE SHE WANTED TO TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW LIKE HOW THERE ARE PLENTY OF “MEN OF COLOR” WHO CHOOSE TO ASSOCIATE THEMSELVES WITH HISPANIC AND LATINA WOMEN, BUT HEY THERES NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT IF U HAVE A PREFERENCE BUT THERE IS A SMALL LINE BETWEEN THAT AND RACISM, MAJORITY OF THE BLACK MEN I KNOW ALWAYS CALLIN OUT BLACK WOMEN THAT CHOOSE NOT TO DATE BLACK MEN BUT THEYRE THE SAME ONES LOOKIN FOR A HOT MAMI TO F***, BUT IM ONLY SPEAKIN OF THOSE WHOM I KNOW AND SEEN, NOT ALL BLACK MEN CUZ IVE MET MANY WHO ARE WONDERFUL MEN

Bill Said:

It’s Unfortunate that the majority of Black Women feel that the majority of Black Men can’t be trusted.

Sad & unfortunate.

I won’t bother wasting time, breath, and bandwith space trying to convince you otherwise.

Obviously, you are speaking from some past experience, hurt or pain…

All I can say is that there is SOMEBODY out there for EVERYBODY…

Oh…Black men are very territorial as far as Black Women are concerned.

If upsets us when we se our Black Queens with White Men…Are we wrong to feel that way….Quite possibly…I know that I’m wrong to feel that way, because I am married, and it really shouldn’t be MY concern, but something about the sight of a white man & a black woman irks me….

As I stated previously I had a bad experience (see my earlier post), so that causes me to get “irked”..

I consider my self educated, intelligent & well informed…So why do I feel this way.

Could be that I know how Caucasians view Black Woman…As something Hot, Tasty & forbidden…

They watch Video, Movies, and read books…
When I was in school I would listen to Caucasian Guys talk about how they needed to have a Black Woman before they settled down and got married.

I noticed time and time again how Caucasian Men used Black woman as their play things…

I see on a daily basis Maried Caucasian men having affairs with Single Black Woman…Why ???….Because of the forbidden pleasure of it….

I can give you sociological reason for Caucasians wanting to sleep with Black woman..If you need me to expound, I will…

I wrote a disertaion on the Taboo of Interracial Relationships while I was working on My Masters Degree in Social Work…

I not saying that what I feel is right or wrong,
But I can explain the reason why I feel the way I feel, paragraph & verse

Peace

Bill I understand completely but I have to make a comment on your remark about “white men using black women as their play things”. You have to admit that Black Men use black women as their play things too.

Here’s what K Dubb had to say to Brittanymo on the Westley Snipes blog!

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@ 120 Brittanymo

There aren’t a hell of a whole lot of sisters dating men of other cultures in the Bay, I was putting the 2 on the 10, but there are enough for me to notice what I perceive as… an increase. But that’s cool, happiness comes in many shades, shapes and forms. I’m glad to see you say you haven’t given up on us, we need ya’ll and to some degree, ya’ll need us too.

Who else is going to keep ya’ll as sharp you are? As black women you guys already know you have to stay a step or two or three ahead of us; and you guys do damn good job of it too. My boys who have stepped out (Notice I said “my boys” and not me. *snickers*) have all been caught, every last one of em, so ladies if you suspect your man is cheatin’, but you haven’t been able to catch him over a course of time, chances are… that nigga probably ain’t cheatin’. You know ya’ll good Murder She Wrote, Magnum PI, Inspector Gadget ass women will find shredded evidence and tape that shit back together and bring it to ya man talking bout “Who is Tanesha? And why was her number torn into a million pieces and in the garbage in my house!”. And then we be like… “huh? Girl I just took that girls # cause she was forcing it on me, and I didn’t want to be rude; look! the shit was in the trash, in a million pieces and you put the shit back together, damn! Lol. Okay, I’m sorry, I’m done being silly.

Some of us do take our women for granted, and I think it’s because we know ya’ll love us unconditionally, you’ve stood by us through the unthinkable; our own forced demoralization, abandonment, mental and physical abuse, etc. It would be so easy to stop dealing with us, but you don’t, because you can’t, your mine (figuratively speaking); beautiful black women you belong to us (Black Men)!

I think white men treated you so well because of their extreme infatuation with you; folks always want what they’ve been deprived of, same goes for the brothers and their white women, so when they get their chance, they go all out to impress you. After about 2 yrs. when Billy comes down off that sugar high (Your sweet black love), he’ll be just as bad as Tariq.

Mama already got me, and I wouldn’t trade her in for a Halle, Beyonce or a Janet. I’m very content and monogamous; and I’m not just saying that. There are black men who don’t cheat and are the head of their household.

P.S. I’ve never dated outside of my race, it’s not that I have a problem with people of different races/cultures, it’s just, why would I do so when to me the most beautiful women in the world are black women (All Shades!). Love ya’ll to death!

@ Bill who wrote:

“Without being to transparent, one of the reason why I feel this way was that an OLD girlfriend of mine cheated on me with a Caucasian Man…
You know the drill…He had money and a car…At the time I was a struggling student with student loans and a beat down toyota Camry.”

My response:

Sounds like the fact that your girlfriend cheated on you was due to the fact that you just didn’t have anything! I mean, it probably didn’t have anything to do with the fact that he was white, just that he had a car and could offer her more in terms of tangible things at the time - if there was a black guy offering the same things that he did, the end result would have probably been the same. But somehow you seemed to have attributed white men with having more things…could be true depending on where you grew up! But don’t you think if the guy would have been a “black baller” she would have kicked your ass to the curb all the same? Oops, hope i’m not being insensitive, but my brother, i really think this is a materialistic issue, not race..he could have been blue or purple for all she cared, if he had a jag, she was gone be in the wind with him!

I will be praying for a speedy healing for you on this subject my brother..

Serena is looking very pretty. She have always had a pretty smile.

Halle & Ciara..Tired of these two. Next!

on Thursday, October 19, 2006 @ 3:49 pm

nubian said:
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Bill I understand completely but I have to make a comment on your remark about “white men using black women as their play things”. You have to admit that Black Men use black women as their play things too.

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Bill Said:

When I met my wife, I didn’t know whe was going to be my wife, until she told me….

But, What made me love her was she would not ALLOW me to make her my “play thing”…

A man will try a whole lot of things..
It’s the WOMAN job to say no…

I asked my wife for some sex…

She said if I wanted her, I would have to marry her…So I did !!

What made me Want her, was the fact that I couldn’t HAVE her…I don’t know if that make sense, but it’s a Man thing….We only really want what we can’t have…

The thing that you have to understand about Men is that we are HUNTERS…

We are ALWAYS hunting…
The truth of the matter, is the Thrill is really in the Hunt…Half the time we don’t even want what we are hunting, we just like to hunt…

It’s complicated,I know for woman to understand this, but if you need me to expound further, I can…

I feel as though when whites date blacks that it’s strickly for sex…

I feel that when a RESPONSIBLE MATURE Black Man is dating A RESPONSIBLE MATURE BLACK Woman he is looking for a wife….

The way that you know that a Man is serious about you is if he introduces you to his Mother and/or Sisters !!!
* My Sister confirmed and closed the deal on me marrying my wife…If they had not given their “seal of approval” then I wouldn’t have married the woman I married…
Another way to see if a man is serious, is the type of events he takes you to….
If he takes you to his church your in.
If he takes you to his family reunion, your in..
If he takes you to his best friends wedding, It’s only a matter of time…

As I said before, I can write pages & pages on this paragraph along…I have 20 years experience, so If you have questions, you should ask !

Bill Said:
THERE are a Lot of educated Black Men with no criminal record & good credit out there !!

I don’t understand what the ladies are saying, when they say their are NO good black men…
Exactly Where are YOU looking ???

I suggest that you go BACK to school, and take a few extra course toward your MBA (or whatever you higheest degree level is), because the Brothers are in College !

TooThru said:
Bill, I did not say there weren’t any good Black men out there. I just don’t think there is enough to go around. The numbers are just too disportionate.

Also, I haven’t been looking for any good Black men lately b/c the search would take up too much of my time. Most of the educated Black men w/ no criminal record and good credit prefer to date outside of their race once they reach upper middle class/wealthy status. They feel they to have a non black trophy wife.

And thanks for the advice. I do plan go back to school next year. However, it will be a predominantly white institution this time around and I hope there will some attractive white men in my classes. It’s all good anyway b/c I have a thing for White men.

SERENA AND BRANDY ARE LOOKING VERY PRETTY AND VERY HAPPY……..THAT’S WHAT GOOD SEX DOES TO YOU! LOL

well I’m over it. If/when I start dating again it won’t be with a white dude. Just not my taste. I think I went on that one date out of rebellion and I realized real quick that doing something out of anger would only hurt me in the end so luckily I caught it immediately. The Bible says that he will find me…so I’m not looking.

oh yeah…and you have to watch out for those hungry negros at church! You’re talking about somebody on a hunt!!!! I’m practically running to my car after service.

Halle is a grown woman free to date as she please. Besides Black men have been dating white women since the begin of time. I’m glad women of color are beginning to see other men want us, we don’t have to sit home alone. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. More power to the sistahs and do that damn thing.

#157 JSCENE ~

The white boy might of had a bigger car than Bill, but we brothers have bigger “fountains” and we know how to work the pump!

Shallow is the woman who would settle for a smooth ride over a big one!

JayZ gave Beyonce a vintage 1958 Rolls Royce, so ain’t no white dude pulling her away with his white Range Rover!

on Thursday, October 19, 2006 @ 4:05 pm

jscene said:
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@ Bill who wrote:

“Without being to transparent, one of the reason why I feel this way was that an OLD girlfriend of mine cheated on me with a Caucasian Man…
You know the drill…He had money and a car…At the time I was a struggling student with student loans and a beat down toyota Camry.”

My response:

Sounds like the fact that your girlfriend cheated on you was due to the fact that you just didn’t have anything! I mean, it probably didn’t have anything to do with the fact that he was white, just that he had a car and could offer her more in terms of tangible things at the time - if there was a black guy offering the same things that he did, the end result would have probably been the same. But somehow you seemed to have attributed white men with having more things…could be true depending on where you grew up! But don’t you think if the guy would have been a “black baller” she would have kicked your ass to the curb all the same? Oops, hope i’m not being insensitive, but my brother, i really think this is a materialistic issue, not race..he could have been blue or purple for all she cared, if he had a jag, she was gone be in the wind with him!

I will be praying for a speedy healing for you on this subject my brother..

Bill Said:
Let me just put this out there.
I hope my Black sisters don’t get offended by the upcoming statement(s)

Black Woman like to be told that they are pretty and attractive…But their is always something lingering in their minds (ESPECIALLY if they are dark Skinned) about their beauty…A Black man can tell a Black women until he’s Blue in the Face “Honey You are so attractive to me”, but the woman won’t Belive it until she hears it from a WHITE MAN.

Now call me a liar if you want, But I KNOW I’m telling the Truth !!!

Black Woman LOSE THEIR MINDS when a WHITE MAN finds them attractive…It’s almost like they feel their beauty is questionable until a White Man Confirms it…

The way the background to my sitiation.
Yes _____ was VERY materailistic.
But she also had self esteem issues…She didn’t feel Beautiful unless she was being hit upon by White men…

Without exposing her, here it is 23 years later, and she has been MANY men’s Mistress, and plaything..
Here I am married for 20 years (in my 40’s) and she STILL Screwing around……

I don’t like to refer to any woman as damaged goods, but after a woman has had affair, after affair, a Man is NOT going to want her….In addtion her head is screwed up…

Basically, yeah she was a Gold Digger, but Like a lot of my Black Sister, she took it up a notch when A white guy showed up…

You ever see a female dog in heat.Ever notice how all the male dogs follow that female dog in heat around ???

Well Men can smell SEXUAL OPPORTUNITY in the air…

If a Man (unmature & unregenerated) sees that he can Hit it without expounding any thing more than a few dollars and extra sperm, then he will hit it, wash his d_ck off in the bathroom sink, and go home…

thats’s MY Opinion

halcyonc….no i haven’t..it’s on my to do list i have friends over therewho keep inviting me….
Bill u opened a whole can of worms…wish i could stick around for it…but work is over and my real life must now begin

Ciara and Halle look extra cute(hate them yellow heffas…J/P). And I wish Halle the best with her new one. I still don’t understand how Mike Ealy is out of the picture.

Serena looks nice for once and Brandy too.

I dont think Halle’s relationship will last, she goes through too many men and then she blames it on them. I think its her!!

Serena looks decent for a dman change (give the chile a lil’ credit)
Is Brandy rockin’ the funky fresh legwarmers? Hmmmm, I guess her & her seed shares the wardrobe.
Halle seems to be happy, calm, content & not giving a shit about what people have to say about her & her “Special WB”.
& yes, Ci-Ci is blosseming nicely post-Bow-Wow. She’s getting on my good side image wise (with her no-singing ass)

Meatloaf Said:

@KDubb lol

That was good reading! You should put that on the blog with Halle and Brandy/Serena!

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I didn’t even realize all this was going on over here Meatloaf.

K Dubb Said:

@ 120 Brittanymo

There aren’t a hell of a whole lot of sisters dating men of other cultures in the Bay, I was putting the 2 on the 10, but there are enough for me to notice what I perceive as… an increase. But that’s cool, happiness comes in many shades, shapes and forms. I’m glad to see you say you haven’t given up on us, we need ya’ll and to some degree, ya’ll need us too.

Who else is going to keep ya’ll as sharp you are? As black women you guys already know you have to stay a step or two or three ahead of us; and you guys do damn good job of it too. My boys who have stepped out (Notice I said “my boys” and not me. *snickers*) have all been caught, every last one of em, so ladies if you suspect your man is cheatin’, but you haven’t been able to catch him over a course of time, chances are… that nigga probably ain’t cheatin’. You know ya’ll good Murder She Wrote, Magnum PI, Inspector Gadget ass women will find shredded evidence and tape that shit back together and bring it to ya man talking bout “Who is Tanesha? And why was her number torn into a million pieces and in the garbage in my house!”. And then we be like… “huh? Girl I just took that girls # cause she was forcing it on me, and I didn’t want to be rude; look! the shit was in the trash, in a million pieces and you put the shit back together, damn! Lol. Okay, I’m sorry, I’m done being silly.

Some of us do take our women for granted, and I think it’s because we know ya’ll love us unconditionally, you’ve stood by us through the unthinkable; our own forced demoralization, abandonment, mental and physical abuse, etc. It would be so easy to stop dealing with us, but you don’t, because you can’t, your mine (figuratively speaking); beautiful black women you belong to us (Black Men)!

I think white men treated you so well because of their extreme infatuation with you; folks always want what they’ve been deprived of, same goes for the brothers and their white women, so when they get their chance, they go all out to impress you. After about 2 yrs. when Billy comes down off that sugar high (Your sweet black love), he’ll be just as bad as Tariq.

Mama already got me, and I wouldn’t trade her in for a Halle, Beyonce or a Janet. I’m very content and monogamous; and I’m not just saying that. There are black men who don’t cheat and are the head of their household.

P.S. I’ve never dated outside of my race, it’s not that I have a problem with people of different races/cultures, it’s just, why would I do so when to me the most beautiful women in the world are black women (All Shades!). Love ya’ll to death!

Shout out to Brittanymo, whose opinions I respect.

K Dubb

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From the Wesley Snipes blog.

Brandy looks great, Serena looks cute too!! When is BRANDY gonna drop her albulm. Monica had a strong comeback, now it’s time for Brandy to do her thing

@#21 all female have bad hair days including celebs
brandy is no different just cause she has her on hair line doesn’t mean she don’t have her bad days like we do.but anyway brandy looks good,and girl,please release some damn music cause i am tide of waiting

@#45 why would brandy be trying to get in with beyonce when eveything beyonce doing,brandy has done before the age of 26,in futhermore i hope brandy not trying to get in with beyonce last ablum suck ass,none of brandy ablum are bad in that on everthing,in yah brandy last ablum didn’t do as good as her other ablum due to her record lable not working her ablum,but beyonce ablum not doing good in she has alot of publisity,here a tip eveybody don’t want to be beyonce or be her friend or get in with her,and another thing if kelly rowland and that william girl still friend why they don’t hang together as much as brandy and sareena do

For once Serena looks decent.

Serena looking mighty fine. Everyone always hating the Williams Sisters, but I love them regardless.

Serena and Brandy look great.

This is the first time that I have ever seen Serena actually looking like a female.

Wow!

I hope things work out with Brandy & Michael Knight if they really are dating! Halle is a WRAP as far as brothas are concerned so she’s already gone but I’ll bet money that Serena marries a brotha! I just have that feeling!

Suga Buga…totally with ya. What’s all the common denomenator in all of Halle’s relationships? O course it’s her.

To the comments of her always driving, maybe she likes to drive or it’s her way of being in control? Have seen a few pix of him driving when they were in Miami golfing and going out for dinner as well and a couple of others.

Anyway…regardless of my Halle comments, it seriously is nice to hear nice comments about Serena and Brandy, it really is a good pix of them.

To Meatloaf: Doing your thing bro and good luck! Forget ALL the haters no matter what gender or race!

Brandy has got that “new relationship” glow. Sadly enough, I dont see the relationship lasting.

Do Halle and her man do anything else other than shop at random stores? All pics of them look the same too.

Bill I BEG TO DIFFER

I totally disagree with your statement that black women (”especially dark skinned”, WOW what an insult) do not feel beautiful unless being told by a white man.

????? It is torture being a part of a race that segregates each other based on skin complexion. Although I understand that your argument wasn’t purely about skin complexion, I know many lighter skin women who are very insecure about their face.

But the real damage was done when you generalized about “black women not feeling beautiful unless confirmed by white men. I understand that that situation may have hurt you, but my gosh, generalizing - I’ve never heard of that. I’ve kicked it with a few white boys and they say, “you’re hot” but being that I am solely attracted to black men, It was flattering, but it didn’t turn my world upside down.

I think that it gets pretty dangerous when in the past you get hurt and 20 years later you use that situation to generalize and insult black women. I know that was not your intentions, but damn. That may have been your experience with your ex girlfriend, (I mean EX EX EX, wasn’t that 20 years ago? Are you not completely over it yet?) but that isn’t the mind frame of black women. So please watch what you say.

Sometimes when you hear this poisen over and over you start to wonder, “is there are reason why black women (dark skinned as you say) SHOULD FEED (?) insecure about their beauty ???? ???? ???? ??

be careful.

Loddypopper fuck beyonce,i’m so over her,brandy doesn’t need beyonce to make it ,she has allready made a name for herself,unlike kelly rowland she still beyonce worshiper & follower
you can tell brandy and sareena are real friends

Serenda hair is cute, usually it look kind of frizzy..I love Brandy’s hair.

to whom ever said brandy looks like freddie k your just plain out retarded.she mite don’t look pretty to
but to me and alot of on this blog shes cute.so i quess you just being stuppid or a hater

I think they are all Beatiuful intelligent successful Women that worked hard to get where they at right now!!! Congragulations to all of them!!! and for all the people that has a negative rude comment please keep it to your self. STOP looking at the negative in someone and start looking at the positive good qualities in a person. REMEMBER THIS: Do unto others as you want others to do unto you. what goes around comes around even when you talking about famous people in a negative or un famous people in a negative way.

F.Y.I

MRS. BERRY IS NOT THE ONLY ONE DATING OUTSIDE OF HER RACE!!! IT’S JUST ASHAME THAT SISTERS ARE TOO UPPITY TO DO THE SAME. CHECK OUT THE FOLLOWING STATISTICS (+/-)AND THEN RETHINK YOUR POSITION.. CAUSE BEFORE YOU KNOW IT.. YOU MAY FIND YOURSELVES PHASED OUT..UNLESS YOU DECIDE TO “TRY OUT” SOMETHING NEW..E.G., LATINO MEN (STRAIGHT) ARE GREAT..

Black Men and Other Women

While discussing the 50% of black men who outmarry in the UK so much in the past few days, I thought it was about time to get some updated stats on just what percentage of AA men are married to white and other women. The following stats come from p. 159 of the Michael Eric Dyson Reader published in 2004. These figures don’t include the black males who were dating white women and others or “shacking” with them, just the married ones and these are 1990 figures. So these are not the latest, but it was the best I could do. If some of you have more recent figures, please supply them. Here goes:

-8% of married black men in 1990 between the ages of 25-34 were married to white or “other” women compared to 4% of white men in the same age cohort.

-In the Pacific Northwest states (e.g. Oregon, Washington, etc.) 32% of married black men were married to non-black women.

-In California, 20% of married black men were married to white and other women.

-In the Rocky Mountain states, 30% of black married men were married to non-black women.

-In New England States, 19% of black married men were married to non-black women.

-In military, 14% of black married men had non-black wives.

-10% of black male college grads were married to non-black women.

-13% of black males with a graduate degree were married to non-black women.

-Overall 200, 000 black married men in 1990 were married to white and “other” women.

According to Michael Eric Dyson, the overwhelming majority of the non-black wives were white women. He cited all of the usual reasons for this outmarrying phenomenon of black men: status-seeking, ‘forbidden fruit’, blinded by white/light beauty even when it ain’t beautiful, the “trophy” or reward for their success, etc. and also acknowledged that in some cases, it’s love. Dyson, being Dyson, is very sympathetic to sistas and said that 200,000 marriageable black men is a major number for sistas to lose to other women, considering the small overall number of marriageable black men and considering the large number of high quality black women seeking marriage exclusively with black men.

Sistas, even I was startled by these high percentages. Maybe some of y’all aren’t? LOL! I had not grasped the full magnitude of this trend among black men. Sure, I’ve seen lots of bm-wm and black males with other women couples and a statistic here and there, and of course, among the black elite men (wealthy, intelligentsia, influential, hi-profile, stars), it’s seems that a white or non-black wife or girlfriend is required, but WOW!! Even so, I was aware enough, years ago, to realize that I needed to expand my pool or I’d be left sitting on the shelf.

This is a very sad situation for a lot of young, starry-eyed black women who are looking forward to romance, love, marriage and the whole nine with a black prince. It’s NOT going to happen for a large number of them because these numbers don’t lie and they are steadily rising. We need to go on a mission to urge these young women to widen their scope in the search for a good mate and we need to do it NOW!!

HERE’S ANOTHER VERY, VERY SAD FACT…

Man-Sharing and HIV among Black Women

A STATISTIC I heard yesterday: “AIDS is the No. 1 killer of American black women between the ages of 21 and 34, and they’re contracting the disease mostly through sex with black men.”

Hmmmm . . . .

The sharing of black men in the black community is widespread, but not talked about much because the type of sometimes desperation, emotional baggage, and RISKY behavior attached to it are tinged with shame. Man-sharing can does often lead to disease-sharing because some sistas undoubtedly engage in hi-risk sex due to the black man shortage. According to Cornelius Baker, with the Aids Alliance for Children, Youth, and Families in D.C., “Negotiating the use of condoms between men and women in the black community can be a complex issue. Many black women don’t feel they can negotiate for their safety,” Baker says. This means that if a black woman turns a black man down for sex, she believes he won’t stick around. Presented with so few chances at love and romance, many sistas are desperate to hold on to any black man who has expressed interest. This leads to RISKY sex with black men (many of whom still don’t stick around), and many of these sistas are dying as a result.

THE TRUTH HURTS, SO BAD SOMETIMES!! BUT, CARING IS SHARING!

NO OFFENSE TO THE FAITHFUL AT HEART.. BUT THE “HARDCORE” FREAKY DOWNLOW’ PRISON BROTHER IS KILLING US!

Please with all of that talking about her being with a White man. My lord! The woman is half White as well. She’s 50% Black and 50% White. She may have the complexion of a Black woman but the fact still remains that she is also WHITE. The complexion you are will not determine what you are if you get what mean. Get over it already! She can date her White side to.

@ BILL,

I totally agree with #152. Bill, you should really consider writting a book. Thank you for the informative comments. Bouga and I were talking about you lastnight, and we always look forward to your comments.

Serena is really pretty in these pictures.

I really am feeling the doggie, too, I think I might have to get me a doggie suitcase for my two babies, too!

Wow, serena, why the hell does your sista look like a fuckin monkey? like, she TOTALLY missed the good genes

Angel you are so right girl!!! Halle knows she’s not the best driver. LOL

For brothers & sisters who think Halle makes bad decisions all the time. You never know where you are going in life sometimes until you get there. She didn’t know her ex husbands would become JEALOUS of
her and FEEL LIKE HER SUCCESS TOOK SOMETHING AWAY FROM THEM. THEY HAD ISSUES BEING MR HALLE BERRY. WHO TOLD THEM THEY WERE MR HALLE BERRY ? WOMEN DON’T HAVE A PROBLEM BEING MRS SO AND SO. BOTH SUED HER FOR “HER” MONEY. WHY ? BECAUSE MONEY EQUALS POWER.
ONLY A MAN THAT IS VERY SECURE IS HIS OWN ABILITIES AND HAS A STONG SENSE OF SELF NEEDS TO STEP-TO AN AMBITIOUS & DRIVEN WOMAN PERIOD. IF YOU CAN’T STAND THE HEAT STAY OUT OF THE KITCHEN & GET A WOMAN THAT NOT THREATENING TO YOU MEN. PEACE MAYBE HER CURRENT BEAU CAN SHE THAT SHE IS A WOMAN AND HUMAN BEING DESERVING OF LOVE AND RESPECT AND FINALLY SHE HAS A MAN WHO ISN’T JEALOUS OF HER.

lol@meatloaf response to me

@bill… im engaged to a black man, he’s great, yea he made ALOT of mistakes none including him having sex with someone other than myself since we’ve been together(cuz he has no reason to do that to someone like me) but i never gave up on him and we are doin great so im not speakin from one side, ive dated asian, hispanic/latino, white, french, italian, etc… and the fact remains no matter what color your skin is, some ppl are pathetic, some are strong and worthy of praise(but not over God) thats just how it is, halle is just scared right now, she has up her wall towards black men, which isnt good but hey thats how it is, cheaters and beaters dont realize how much they “train” a person to think towards them and its never a good training that person becomes use to the cheater or beater doing pointless and foolish things… its this sort of training to the mind and heart

AREYOUSERIOUS…You never call another black person a monkey! Do you hear me? NEVER. Plus, Venus is HOT. How dare you? What are good genes? Let me guess. You sound like the type that thinks because Serena is a shade lighter that makes her the better looking one right? Because if it is about ASS Venus has one as well, she just doesn’t have it out there like Serena does. Watch your mouth man!!!

It’s funny to see Halle parading her new white man a round. I guess the black man that knocked out her hearing knocked her sense out too. I guess Asian men will be next after she drives this one away from her.

Brandy & Serena look really nice! Im lovin it!

OH LOOK ITS AH AH AH WHATS THERE NAME AGAIN OH YEAH ITS FORE AND HEAD.

loddypopper you the one who need a fuckin life,brandy in sareena have been bestfriend for years now i’m sure brandy don’t give a damn about beyonce or kelly anymore.kelly rowland was a fan of brandy not the other way around stop being a hater

# 35 CO-SIGGGGGNNNN!

Folks need to leave Halle alone.

Serena looks really good in this pic for once and Her weave actually looks great

Brandy is okay to me, it’s just something about her face that I just can’t get with. Maybe it’s her eyes but for the most part her hair and skin is really good.

Now call me crazy or whatever but I just don’t see what everyone see’s in Halle Berry to be so beutiful. She ok but not what everyone is making her out to be with her looks.

Cute dog Ciara has with her

brandy looking beatieful again,it must be love

I am black, too. And if I look like a fuckin monkey, who am I to be upset about that?

I am not hatin on Venus because she is one damn shade lighter…I swear, what the hell? Are you smoking? Venus looks like a fucking MONKEY!!! Just like Eve be looking like a fuckin monkey, too! You must look like a fuckin monkey, then.

I embrace my culture, and I know that we are beautiful, but if youz a monkey, youz a monkey!

MONKEY MONKEY MONKEY MONKEY MONKEY MOTHA FUCKIN MONKEY

#198 must be white

#190 & #191…thank you for taking the time to put that information out there. It’s something that I’ve researched and found the same overwhelming numbers. It a nutshell a black American man is 50% more likely to marry outside of his race than any other human being on the face of the earth. Hopefully, black men will understand why this is such an emotional issue for black women.

Whyblkpeepalwhy(#191 190), I want to piggy back you one more time. The mortality rate amoung young black men in America also contributes as well. Black men die from senseless violence in this country daily. This also contributes to the 85 black men to 100 black females; and there are more black men in prison than in college(threw that one in for free)

@ BILL
I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH UR POST #166 EXCEPT FOR THE PART ABOUT BLACK WOMEN LOSING THEIR MINDS OVER A WHITE MAN FINDING THEM ATTRACTIVE, AND BLACK WOMEN NEEDING TO BE TOLD THEYRE PRETTY,ITS NOT SO MUCH THAT….

WOMEN IN GENERAL TEND TO PUT MOST OR ALL THEY HAVE INTO A MAN ONLY TO FIND HIM IN BED WITH NEXT WOMAN CUZ SHES MORE PHYSICALLY ATTRACTIVE-THE SAME MAN WHO WOULD BREAK HER NECK IF SHE DID THE SAME THING TO HIS WORTHLESS ASS… SO WE ARE ALWAYS ALWAYS IN A COMPETITION ALL OUR LIVES FOR THE ATTENTION OF A MAN OR MEN WHO DONT GIVE A F*** ABOUT US ALL BECAUSE WE DONT LOOK AS PRETTY AS THE NEXT, IM NOT THE TYPE THAT SPENDS DOLLARS ON DOLLARS TO GET MY HAIR AND NAILS DONE EVERYDAY, BUT ITS UNDERSTANDABLE WHY WOMEN DO THAT, MOST OF THE TIME ITS TO GET SOME TYPE OF APPRECIATION FROM A MAN….

IF A WOMAN IS CONSTANTLY LOOKED AT BY MEN WHO LIKE CURVY FIGURES SHES NOT GOING TO FEEL LIKE SHES THE MOST BEAUTIFUL WOMAN, BUT IF SOMEONE WHO DOESNT LIKE A WOMAN WITH A BIG BUTT OR LONG LEGS OR A CERTAIN TYPE OF EYES FIND HER ATTRACTIVE ITS LIKE “WOW I AM BEAUTIFUL, DAMN I MUST BE THE SHIT CUZ IM NOT THIS GUY’S TYPE AT ALL AND HE CANT STOP DROOLING!”

ITS NOT A HEALTHY WAY OF THINKING BUT MAJORITY OF WOMEN THINK LIKE THAT BECAUSE THATS ALL MOST MEN IN THE WORLD HAS TAUGHT, ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS, N IF UR LOOKIN AT HER FIRST THEN THE NEXT WOMAN WHEN SHE PASSES THAT TELLS MOST WOMEN THAT EVERYTHING HE JUST TOLD HER WAS A LIE CUZ IF IM THE MOST BEAUTIFUL WOMAN UVE EVER SEEN HOW CAN SHE TAKE UR ATTENTION AWAY, IF UR SO SMITTEN BY ME, THEN WHY DID U TURN AWAY?

WOMEN-MOST WOMEN, WANT TO FEEL BEAUTIFUL AND THE WAY THAT MOST MEN HAVE TREATED THEM MAKE THEM FEEL OTHERWISE, IT ALL GOES BACK TO THE “TRAINING OF THE MIND” THAT I MENTIONED BEFORE, ITS RETARDED HOW SOME MEN WHO IVE COUNSELED WILL START A FIRE AND STICK THEIR HANDS IN THE FIRE THEN GET ANGRY WHEN THEY GET BURNED, THATS A SLOW BRAIN. THAT DOESNT MAKE SENSE, ITS NOT JUST BLACK WOMEN ITS MAJORITY OF WOMEN OF ALL RACES THAT FEEL THAT WAY BECAUSE OF CHEATING MEN, MEN THAT LIE, AND MEN THAT BEAT. AND SOME MEN FEEL THAT WAY ALSO FROM WOMEN THAT CHEAT, WOMEN THAT LIE, AND WOMEN THAT BEAT- YES THERE ARE WOMEN THAT BEAT ON MEN OUT THERE IVE SEEN IT

AGAIN THIS IS GENERAL FROM MY STUDIES AND A SOME EXPERIENCE MYSELF SINCE I AM A WOMAN.BUT I DO AGREE WITH THE OTHER POINTS YOU HAVE MADE

Bill I BEG TO DIFFER

I totally disagree with your statement that black women (”especially dark skinned”, WOW what an insult) do not feel beautiful unless being told by a white man.

????? It is torture being a part of a race that segregates each other based on skin complexion. Although I understand that your argument wasn’t purely about skin complexion, I know many lighter skin women who are very insecure about their face.

But the real damage was done when you generalized about “black women not feeling beautiful unless confirmed by white men. I understand that that situation may have hurt you, but my gosh, generalizing - I’ve never heard of that. I’ve kicked it with a few white boys and they say, “you’re hot” but being that I am solely attracted to black men, It was flattering, but it didn’t turn my world upside down.

I think that it gets pretty dangerous when in the past you get hurt and 20 years later you use that situation to generalize and insult black women. I know that was not your intentions, but damn. That may have been your experience with your ex girlfriend, (I mean EX EX EX, wasn’t that 20 years ago? Are you not completely over it yet?) but that isn’t the mind frame of black women. So please watch what you say.

Sometimes when you hear this poisen over and over you start to wonder, “is there are reason why black women (dark skinned as you say) SHOULD FEED (?) insecure about their beauty ???? ???? ???? ??

be careful.

Black is Beauty

Serena & Brandy look happy & beautiful

Has far has some of the comments I read on this page,
Remember this:

Love yourself, whatever shade you may be. Love your hair, lips, eyes ,nose, butt, and thighs. For you are the vision of BEAUTY! The Creator doesn’t mess up

And just because you add weave to your hair doesn’t mean you don’t love yourself. OR your trying to be white( b/c how many white woman get tans and wear weave themselves?)

But, when you start to say I DON’T want to get darker so, I won’t be in the sun to long, or I WANT to get a nose job then you know you have to get right with yourself! Because, then you are trying to act white! White people get nose jobs, lips , eyes, hips & BUTTS! AND much more done to their images.

We know better then to play that game! Because we on Judgement Day the Creator may ask” Did I mess up on something?”

And when you should feel yourself start to believe that you need to drastically change (surgery) you know that you have to sit down & talk to the CREATOR above and say I’m sorry, “For you make no mistakes, you are the CREATOR”.

-Peace

on Saturday, October 21, 2006 @ 11:24 am

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@ BILL
I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH UR POST #166 EXCEPT FOR THE PART ABOUT BLACK WOMEN LOSING THEIR MINDS OVER A WHITE MAN FINDING THEM ATTRACTIVE, AND BLACK WOMEN NEEDING TO BE TOLD THEYRE PRETTY,ITS NOT SO MUCH THAT….

WOMEN IN GENERAL TEND TO PUT MOST OR ALL THEY HAVE INTO A MAN ONLY TO FIND HIM IN BED WITH NEXT WOMAN CUZ SHES MORE PHYSICALLY ATTRACTIVE-THE SAME MAN WHO WOULD BREAK HER NECK IF SHE DID THE SAME THING TO HIS WORTHLESS ASS… SO WE ARE ALWAYS ALWAYS IN A COMPETITION ALL OUR LIVES FOR THE ATTENTION OF A MAN OR MEN WHO DONT GIVE A F*** ABOUT US ALL BECAUSE WE DONT LOOK AS PRETTY AS THE NEXT, IM NOT THE TYPE THAT SPENDS DOLLARS ON DOLLARS TO GET MY HAIR AND NAILS DONE EVERYDAY, BUT ITS UNDERSTANDABLE WHY WOMEN DO THAT, MOST OF THE TIME ITS TO GET SOME TYPE OF APPRECIATION FROM A MAN….

IF A WOMAN IS CONSTANTLY LOOKED AT BY MEN WHO LIKE CURVY FIGURES SHES NOT GOING TO FEEL LIKE SHES THE MOST BEAUTIFUL WOMAN, BUT IF SOMEONE WHO DOESNT LIKE A WOMAN WITH A BIG BUTT OR LONG LEGS OR A CERTAIN TYPE OF EYES FIND HER ATTRACTIVE ITS LIKE “WOW I AM BEAUTIFUL, DAMN I MUST BE THE SHIT CUZ IM NOT THIS GUY’S TYPE AT ALL AND HE CANT STOP DROOLING!”

ITS NOT A HEALTHY WAY OF THINKING BUT MAJORITY OF WOMEN THINK LIKE THAT BECAUSE THATS ALL MOST MEN IN THE WORLD HAS TAUGHT, ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS, N IF UR LOOKIN AT HER FIRST THEN THE NEXT WOMAN WHEN SHE PASSES THAT TELLS MOST WOMEN THAT EVERYTHING HE JUST TOLD HER WAS A LIE CUZ IF IM THE MOST BEAUTIFUL WOMAN UVE EVER SEEN HOW CAN SHE TAKE UR ATTENTION AWAY, IF UR SO SMITTEN BY ME, THEN WHY DID U TURN AWAY?

WOMEN-MOST WOMEN, WANT TO FEEL BEAUTIFUL AND THE WAY THAT MOST MEN HAVE TREATED THEM MAKE THEM FEEL OTHERWISE, IT ALL GOES BACK TO THE “TRAINING OF THE MIND” THAT I MENTIONED BEFORE, ITS RETARDED HOW SOME MEN WHO IVE COUNSELED WILL START A FIRE AND STICK THEIR HANDS IN THE FIRE THEN GET ANGRY WHEN THEY GET BURNED, THATS A SLOW BRAIN. THAT DOESNT MAKE SENSE, ITS NOT JUST BLACK WOMEN ITS MAJORITY OF WOMEN OF ALL RACES THAT FEEL THAT WAY BECAUSE OF CHEATING MEN, MEN THAT LIE, AND MEN THAT BEAT. AND SOME MEN FEEL THAT WAY ALSO FROM WOMEN THAT CHEAT, WOMEN THAT LIE, AND WOMEN THAT BEAT- YES THERE ARE WOMEN THAT BEAT ON MEN OUT THERE IVE SEEN IT

AGAIN THIS IS GENERAL FROM MY STUDIES AND A SOME EXPERIENCE MYSELF SINCE I AM A WOMAN.BUT I DO AGREE WITH THE OTHER POINTS YOU HAVE MADE

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on Saturday, October 21, 2006 @ 1:06 pm

UPGRADEYOU said:
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Bill I BEG TO DIFFER

I totally disagree with your statement that black women (”especially dark skinned”, WOW what an insult) do not feel beautiful unless being told by a white man.

????? It is torture being a part of a race that segregates each other based on skin complexion. Although I understand that your argument wasn’t purely about skin complexion, I know many lighter skin women who are very insecure about their face.

But the real damage was done when you generalized about “black women not feeling beautiful unless confirmed by white men. I understand that that situation may have hurt you, but my gosh, generalizing - I’ve never heard of that. I’ve kicked it with a few white boys and they say, “you’re hot” but being that I am solely attracted to black men, It was flattering, but it didn’t turn my world upside down.

I think that it gets pretty dangerous when in the past you get hurt and 20 years later you use that situation to generalize and insult black women. I know that was not your intentions, but damn. That may have been your experience with your ex girlfriend, (I mean EX EX EX, wasn’t that 20 years ago? Are you not completely over it yet?) but that isn’t the mind frame of black women. So please watch what you say.

Sometimes when you hear this poisen over and over you start to wonder, “is there are reason why black women (dark skinned as you say) SHOULD FEED (?) insecure about their beauty ???? ???? ???? ??

be careful.

Bill Said:

Ms Creol Cherry & Ms. UpgradeYou,

It appears that I touched a sore point with you.
for that, I do sincerly apologize.

It has never been my intention to hurt ANYONE’s feeling.

What I state are my OPINIONS, based on my 40+ years of living experience…

If what I have encountered has not necessarily been YOUR personeel experience, well that is understandable.

We all don’t travel down the same pathways, nor do we have the same experiences.

Once again, I apologize for any hurt you have experience by reading my post.

I won’t retract what I said, because it is in fact TRUE, based on MY experiences.

As a matter of fact, you ladies basically confirmed and verified what I’ve been saying all along.

Females place a great deal of emphasis on how THEY look, and they tend to let MEN make them feel bad, based on perceived “shortcoming” that they may have…

Men do in fact make judgements and decisions based on Visual’s whereas Woman make judgements and decisions based on emotions.

But the fact that men are Visual creature should not negate in the woman’s mind her own beauty & attraction.

What I’m saying is this: a WOMAN should NOT let a Man (Black or White) make her feel bad for not looking a certain way.

Peace

@BILL,
THATS WHAT I WAS SAYING, I JUST DONT LIKE IT WHEN PPL HAVE TO PUT BLACK OR WHITE IN THE FACT, I JUST DONT TOLERATE THAT VERY WELL WHICH IS SOMETHING I NEED TO WORK ON, BUT THATS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY THAT MOST WOMEN THINK LIKE THAT AND THE WOMEN IVE MET THAT LOVE ALL OF THEMSELVES THOUGHT THAT WAY AT LEAST ONCE OR TWICE, IM NOT SAYING ITS RIGHT BECAUSE IT IS SADLY WRONG BUT “MY FEELINGS GOT HURT” WHEN YOU SAID BLACK WOMEN WHITE MEN, I DONT TOLERATE THAT KIND OF STUFF VERY WELL WHICH SHOWS HOW MUCH I TOLERATE THE HUMAN RACE ITSELF, SOMETIMES PPL REALLY ANNOY ME ESPECIALLY WHEN RACE IS BROUGHT UP, I FEEL ALL RACES, ETHNICITIES, ETC ARE BEAUTIFUL…

Ok Ms. Creole Cherry…

We both have “issues” to work on…

@BILL

LOL, I KNOW IM SUCH A HARSH PERSON TO HUMANITY, I MEAN I HAVE TO WATCH MY BLOOD PRESSURE ALL THE TIME, WHICH IS BAD LOL BUT YES WE ALL HAVE SOMETHING TO WORK ON, I HAVE AN ANGER MANAGEMENT PROBLEM…

Did you forget that Halle is half white? Ciara looks so pretty I also diggin Promise. I always been a Brandy fan, sometime she be lookin so jack. But i cant wait for her to drop something new. Serena look pretty on this pic

Halle’s always driving because he so called man looks like he can’t walk and talk at the same time.

Some of you are right. Halle has dated her fair share of black men, pretty much all of the single ones in Hollywood. That’s why she’s left with this one! LOL!

yall are the weirdest people in the world this topic is about judgeing how ciara,halle,serena and brandy look in the picture thats all its not about who they date who gives a fuck who halle barry date why are yall so mad that she with a white man?does it bother yall that much that she is dating a white man god yall make a big deal out of everything on the concretelloop .Half these comments not even about the topic it’s about halle barry dating white men!

anywhoo they all look nice

CIARA=beatiful as always I say.

BRANDY=she lookin okay however I do perfer how she looked back in the day.

halle=uhhhh she OKAY never really was a fan of hers but like I said she okay.

serena=To be honest I always thought she was beatiful she was just to muscular for my taste!

Halle is beautiful & has been dating the white model dude(forgot his name) for a little while now & who cares if he is cacausian. I mean can people get over inter-racial dating. The key is ->hopefully, she is happy.

Ciara - wow - she is looking more & more beautiful 2 me everytime I see her. Her new song & video “Promise” is HOTTTTT, simply straight FIRREEE. Looking forward 2 her CD.

Serena - looks decent in this pic.

Brandy - she looks decent as well.

Chazz