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THANDIE NEWTON’S SHOCKED AT A ‘BLACK’ ANGELINA

Friday, October 13, 2006

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Thandie Newton was amazed when she learned Angelina Jolie is to play a black woman in her latest film. The actress couldn’t hide her surprise when she was shown a picture of Angelina as murdered journalist Daniel Pearl’s mixed-race wife in the new movie about his life and death.

Thandie said:

“God I’m shocked. She’s been blacked up to play a black women. I have to say it’s surprising, very surprising.” [SOURCE]

Although the Crash star did confess she was a little jealous that the role in A Mighty Heart hadn’t gone to her, she refused to criticise Angelina. Talking at the Screen Nation Awards on Tuesday night, she added:

“It’s an absolutely fantastic role, I would loved to have played it. But I’m not going to criticise or judge her until I’ve seen the film, that would be wrong of me.”

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151.

Aye no wonder...

Sunday, October 15, 2006 /

yea, i mean sure they made her look similar to the actual woman but they could have done the same with thandie. Im not sure exactly how i feel about this, but I feel similar to how I felt when “Memoirs of a Geisha” came out and a large percentage of the cast was chinese (and spoke with chinese accents) that feeling of was it THAT hard to find an actor/actress of the actual nationality they were portraying. Same in Little Buddha (Keanu Reeves…c’mon there HAD to have been a better actor of at least a SIMILAR nationality out there) but honestly if Angelina is able to play the role better than others who auditioned for it and are bi-racial then i guess she should be the one to do it, but as an actor/actress when playing people of other races you can NEVER totally be accurate in how u potray that character, becuase of the years of w/e history they experienced as the race that they are, she can put makeup on and make yourself LOOK like a bi racial woman, but she’ll never TRULY be able to relate…idk its hard to take a stance on this

152.

Aye Now Wonder

Sunday, October 15, 2006 /

WOW! i came on here sooo late i missed alot..

first off, that whole being part black makes you black thing came from the whole one drop/ 1/16th rule, and back then it was something to be ashamed of and another way to weed out the non “pure bloeded” people, now-a-days its def. being taken advantage of,them claiming there blackness would def. not be happening 60 years ago.

next…

“Also, Angelina is sensitive and respective of issues facing the Nation of Africa. I think she gets a pass for adopting and caring for Little Zahara (so cute) and her activism in Africa. ”

Africa is not a nation…

153.

mexican in paris

Sunday, October 15, 2006 /

From what i have heard mariane pearl is a cuban/dutch french national,so more than likely she sees herself as either french or latina. myself, i am half mexican and half sweedish, when i was a kid in america everybody thought i was half black because i had really really curly hair and was dark. my point is you can never really tell what race somebody is!! when you are mixed you are mixed, and especially in france - nobody really cares. because people live here from literally all parts of the globe,but actually hang out together!
anyway peace to all of you in america, i miss the junk food!

154.

Ms. T

Sunday, October 15, 2006 /

WOMEN OF COLOR PERIOD WHETHER THEY ARE BLACK, MIXED, YELLOW, RED, OR BROWN LACK AN ABUNDANCE OF GOOD QUALITY TO WORK IN HOLLYWOOD.

SO ANYTIME A MEATY ROLE COMES ALONG THAT COULD BENEFIT AN ACTRESS OF COLOR WHITE WOMEN SHOULD NOT BE DARKENED UP TO PLAY THOSE PARTS.

WOMEN OF COLOR SHOULD BE CONSIDERED FIRST.

IT JUST GOES TO SHOW HOW WHITE FOLKS CAN ADOPT BABIES OF COLOR AND STILL NOT UNDERSTAND THE STRUGGLE THAT PEOPLE OF COLOR FACE.

IF ANGELINA REALLY CARED ABOUT HER ADOPTED CHILDREN SHE WOULD HAVE WANTED THE PART TO GO TO AN ACTRESS OF COLOR AND NOT HERSELF.

155.

brownsugah305

Sunday, October 15, 2006 /

Oh well who cares I am not going to see the movie anyway….

156.

warrior princess

Sunday, October 15, 2006 /

#133 You are a fucking ass. You used The Wayan Brothers and Dave Chappelle as a relevant analogy to this scenario? Are you fucking serious? Those were PARODIES. Not a real film to be taking seriously. And in any event, The Wayan’s character in “White Chicks” WERE BLACK MEN. FBI Agents. They may have went undercover as White women, but that doesnt mean that the characters themselves are White Women, being played by Black actors.

Reverse racism? There is so such thing as reverse
racism. You are not only than implying that the definition of racism means Whites who are prejudice against Blacks”, but Black and White are the only two races that exist.

#150 - Jennifer Aniston was the first and original choice to play this character. Does she look “exactly like her”? LOL. I’m positive no one would be making excuses for Aniston, if this was news a fews ago years ago when she had the part.

A lotof ya’ll just make me fucking sick. Seriously, some of these posts seriously translate into: PWAISE MASSA! PWAISE HIM! WHA, YOOH UNNO? MASSA DONE ADOPTEDEDED SOME NIGGER BABIES! THEY LOVE THA NEGROES, WE SHOULD SING AND HOLD PRAISE FOR MASSA! THANK YOU MASSA!!! THANK YOU!!!!!

-vomits-

Seriously, what will it take for these youngin’s to WAKE THE FUCK UP? Whats with all these “its just a movie” or “its just a role” type comments? Is nothing to be taken seriously anymore? What kind of fairy tale La La Land do ya’ll live in when you actually beleive “color doesnt matter”? Should it matter, no — but it DOES and theres no way around that. Nothing is “just” a song, movie, or whatever. Stop thinking life is cookie cutter — it is NOT and could never be that simplistic. *SMH*

157.

lerisback2006

Monday, October 16, 2006 /

I agree with number 68, like what does it matter to her she did not get the part. She would claim racism now that she did not get a big time part. But then again I dont know her and she might really claim to be a black woman. But as everyone was saying Angie would bring a bigger audience and alot more cash to the box office.

158.

Danielle

Monday, October 16, 2006 /

Well they always have Mexicans playing Native Americans and I never hear anyone complaining about that or even taking notice to it.

159.

MissInform-ER

Monday, October 16, 2006 /

Big Deal…she said she was surprised! Geesh—It’s not like she said “this is black face!”

and Bill, please counsel your damned students and STFU….kthanx!

160.

SexyQB

Monday, October 16, 2006 /

Hollywood has finally crossed the line. All the bi-racial women in hollywood should be offended by this. Angelina looks a mess. “Shakes head”

161.

MissInform-ER

Monday, October 16, 2006 /

^^^^ I could have said that more eloquently, but I chose to just be frank!

162.

MissInform-ER

Monday, October 16, 2006 /

and how do ppl so whole-heartedly know how she did with the role?? Oh, I had no idea that there was a sneak CL preview of the film b4 it is released to theatres LOL—yall crack me up.

163.

posh

Monday, October 16, 2006 /

Didn’t Thandie play a white woman in Crash?

164.

Siobhan

Monday, October 16, 2006 /

All this talk about white women not knowing the struggle of black women and vice versa would be relevant if the movie were about race and struggle. It is not. It is about a woman who lost her husband in a tragic & public way.

If they were making a movie about Rosa Parks’ life and asked Julia Roberts to play her then yes all of this heat would be right on. However, it is not that kind of movie.

Get over it.

165.

Siobhan

Monday, October 16, 2006 /

It is a movie that anyone with a heart can relate to…if you could just get past the race issue. Not everything in this world is about race and it’s wrong for people to try and turn something so meaningful and deep into something so truly ugly & vicious.

166.

MissInform-ER

Monday, October 16, 2006 /

LOL @ my thoughts earlier—I was seriously tripping—- Bill, plz forgive my crazy comment–dont know where that one came from…..I apologize

Also, yes yes yes Thandie did play a white woman in the movie Crash (I remember the line when she and Terence Howard were pulled over and she said something to the matter of “What’s the matter….you just couldnt stand to see a white woman with a blk man?”

Heck, I thought she was white then (initially, I thought she was black, but when I heard that line, I just assumed that my prior assumption was incorrect…lol)

Also, the media could have chopped up her response to get what they wanted, if anything at all.

Normally, when you cut someone’s words short, you are supposed to use “…” without these, it makes the sentence/words seem coherent….but even with them you can change the mneaning of someone’s words.

Example: I don’t believe that I could have played the role better yet. I just have to wait and see what the turnout is.

Media: “I…believe that I could have played the role better…” “I just have to…see what the turnout is”

By the time it gets to the upteenth source: I believe I could have played the role better, on I [saw] what the turnout [was]“….s
See the difference…journalism is amazing, but overly-quoted info can become mis-quoted by the time it reaches the public eye/ear.

167.

jewel13

Monday, October 16, 2006 /

They knew the cash would roll in with Angelina in that role. The story isn’t that interesting anyway, and with Thandie in the role, that shit would’ve gone straight to DVD.

Everyone thinks Thandie should’ve got the part basically because of her looks. If they based it on her acting skills….she didn’t deserve the job.

Maybe some good black actresses were overlooked, maybe no good black actresses auditioned, who knows.

And as far as Brad putting her on…..who cares. When you get in a position to include your family members or friends in your sucess it’s only right to do so. We do it all the time.

Too many Black people have opened doors for their family & friends and no one seemed to care then, but now that Brad has “looked out” for his girl, its an issue.

Grow up people.

168.

jenny320

Monday, October 16, 2006 /

Wow some of you people are crazy! Don’t you see what’s going on here?

Why is Angelina Jolie considered a great actress? Because she’s had the OPPOURUNTIY to display her talent. How many actors and actress of colors have had the OPPOURUTUNITY to display their range…. Very few. You know why? Because the ROLES DO NOT EXIST FOR THEM!

We say things like “color shouldn’t matter” because it makes us feel good, but it DOES. Movie studios are always weary of putting an actor of color in a lead role of any movie (unless you’re a halle or denzel), so much so, that when presented with a TRUE LIFE STORY based on a woman of color, they STILL find it necessary to cast a white person.

And by the way. Are we so comfortable w/ race now that we find black face okay? As someone said earlier. Halle is playing her role as is. Angie is in blackface. This is the ultimate INSULT. How arrogant can you be to think that you can paint a white woman’s face and make her biracial. As someone said earlier, they were going to use Jennifer Aniston first! Is that okay too? This just further displays their arrogance.

169.

jenny320

Monday, October 16, 2006 /

Thandie did not play a white woman in crash. She says that because from far the police officer might have assumed she was white until she was pulled over. If you see the scene where her and Terrance argue over their blackness you would see that they’re both supposed to be very fair skinned black people as they are in real life.

170.

T

Monday, October 16, 2006 /

Anthony Hopkins (Hannibal) played a light-skinned black man in the movie, The Human Stain in 2003.

171.

jewel13

Monday, October 16, 2006 /

It’s just a movie, it’s not like she was cast to play Harriet Tubman,Rosa Parks or Betty Shabazz, that would be some shit to get upset about. I think only a sista could handle those roles.

How many of ya’ll who wanted a black actress to play the part were actually going to go see this anyway?

If they would’ve selected Alfre Woodard or Angela Bassett (who I love & highly respect as actresses)as some of you have suggested, they would’ve had to lighten their skin to make them visually similar to Marianne. Would you turn around and accuse these sistas of selling out or going “white faced”?

Its all about the $. Angie can bring in more than Thandie.

172.

jscene

Monday, October 16, 2006 /

@jewel 13 #171

i guess if we went with your theory, we could logically say “what’s the problem, it’s just a bus ride, we can sit in the back; what’s the problem, it’s just a white-only water fountain, here’s one here that says for colors; what’s the problem it’s just an all white school; need i go on!

You’re obviously fuckin CLUELESS!!!!!Along with all the other clueless asses who can’t see the forest for the trees! There’s a much bigger picture in this, and if you don’t see it, can’t help you there! I can only encourage you to please, open your eyes and see the big picture! There’s such a thing called subtle racism, and while i don’t think that’s the purposeful intention here, this one move can snow ball into other things. You have to fight just as hard for the SEEMINGLY SMALL THINGS when they happen as you do for the OBVIOUS BIG THINGS. That’s what other races of people do, they see the big picture, and they don’t let you get away with shit! I can definitely understand that logic! Sadly so many of us are lost, just like monica’s song said “SO GONE!”

173.

bronzeg

Monday, October 16, 2006 /

isn’t angie and brad producing the film?? y pay another actress when u can do it urself?? that is what acting is all about isn’t it?? role playing…but, i would’ve liked to see a person who naturally looks more like the wife to play the role…i think it’s more “believable”..but angie is a great actress..so it might not matter basedo n her performance

174.

divine

Monday, October 16, 2006 /

As usual on this site, some of you are determined to not see the damn point. I don’t recall Thandie saying anything negative about Angelina HOlie. I believe that her statement was made in relation to the fact that it’s no secret black women actresses don’t get a lot of starring roles. As I’m sure with other “black” actresses, like Halle Berry,Angela Basset, etc., probably were thinking the exact same thing. It’s the principal.

“Hollywood” were influences on this Pearl lady’s choice., not the fact that Angelina was the better actress. “Her husband” are the two key words, he knew good and damn well he could not have given this part to an ex lover over the woman that broked up his marriage…who’s behind he’s been kissing for last past 2 years.

If you gave black women more starring roles that they could relate to instead of “whiting them up” to fit your “perceptions of a great actress” then Ms.Pearl would not have felt compelled to choose Angelina. She would have actually chose a biracial actress, (black and white). But she had to go with the “name” that ‘might’ bring more people to the theatre and I did say might.

Why are we always trying to make “black women” appear bitter when they speak out on things that they differ with? Do you actually believe that white actresses like Nicole Kidman,Demi Moore,etc…would be pleased if they made up a black actress to play Marylin Monroe,etc? They’d voice their opinions as well and wouldn’t nobody have jack shyt to say about it. So PLEAZZ, already with the comments that “she needs to get over it and move on”… some of you will stop at nothing to make this an issue it is not. It is not about black people getting upset over a role, It’s about the struggles that black men and women have in Hollywood period when it comes to acting and getting great roles., POINT BLANK!!

It is also an insult on those women’s part when someone who is bi-racial chooses a white woman to protray her all based on a NAME. Just goes to show you how some of us really are; when it gets right down to it we do not have each other’s back. But like some of you have said, “it’s a business and about making that money”. So each his own.

175.

divine

Monday, October 16, 2006 /

Thanks Jenny; for clearing that up! I thought I was the only one that got the “slang remark” that Thandie made in that movie…she was NOT playing a white woman, PLEAZZZ!!

176.

slorole

Monday, October 16, 2006 /

JAY

She looks like plenty of black women I know. Especially creole women

IF YOU THINK SHE DOESNT LOOK BLACK ENOUGH

WHY IS ANGELINAS FACE PAINTED?

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ITs not about who plays the role. Its about the struggle we have as blacks. We were denied roles and as a matter of fact made fun of as baffoons as whites painted their faces and ran around stage calling us jiggaboos. Its insulting for her to paint her face. Its should be unacceptable. Im thinking its like the 1930s again

177.

BLESSED2BE

Monday, October 16, 2006 /

Danielle

YOU NEVER HEAR PEOPLE TAKING NOTICE. Have you ever researched it? I learned in a Chicano studies the struggle of Latin actors and actresses. Also with Native Americans. Im sure it is imposible to count the number of white actors that have played Native Americans!

WHY DOES she have to paint HER FACE??? THATS WHAT MATTERS HEAR! IT WAS CONSIDERED RACISM LESS THAT FORTY YEARS AGO. IT SHOULDNT BE OK TODAY. I DONT CARE IF SHES MARRIED TO FARRAKAHN. ITS INSULTING. PLUS ANNISTON WAS OFFERED THE ROLE ANYWAY.

Im also appaled at some of these “its just a movie” and “she gets a pass” comments. What are these children learning in schools today? Where is this lack of respect coming from? This lack of knowledge of self?

Why are we so judgemental of our own yet quick to give others a pass? Angelina is not the only white person to adopt a child. My aunt adopted three. Three black children who would have otherwise had no future. And while my aunt raises my cousins in a positive healthy environment, she is able to teach them about their ancestors and the struggle. No nannies, no publicists, just real life and love.
People please realize that PAINTING YOUR FACE is insulting to MANY BLACKS!!! IF NOT TO YOU RESPECT THE PEOPLE WHO MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR THAT TO BE less OF AN OCCURANCE TODAY

178.

strongminded

Monday, October 16, 2006 /

JEWEL 13

- Your comments are absurd. Who cares if it would have gone straight to DVD with a black actress or that half the people here would not have seen it.

THANDIE IS NOT MAD SHE DIDNT GET MAD. She is upset Angelina had the audacity to paint her face to play a wpman of African decent. Its degrading and something we got over a long time ago. Maybe you have not studied theatre or film even. If you study the history you would see that this was considered derogatory. And this wasnt that long ago

179.

TOO TOT

Monday, October 16, 2006 /

Yes BILL I did have a lot to say.

And now I have a little. Jennifer Aniston was CHOSEN first to play the role. You going to give me her ethnic background?

While you at it, are you going to justify why they have to paint Angelina’s face since she such a ni#%@ anyway?

I am an actress and I have amother and grandmother who are actresses. I know how insulting that is. Brad and Angelina have not received a pass to insult my ancestors or My MOTHER OR GRANDMOTHER.

MALCOLM would have immediately seen what the problem is!

180.

treasureme

Monday, October 16, 2006 /

JEWEL 13

No onewould have suggested they lighten their skin!
where are you getting that information from? I think your missing the point honey. Its something called Blackface. Something that demeaned black actors for years. Not whiteface. Halle hasnt bleached her skin, Denzel , Samuel or any other actor playing a white person to make the visual apearence more believeable (that excludes comedies like Wayans)

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TOO TOT

Monday, October 16, 2006 /

#172 Thanks so much for this. I cant believe some of the ignance floating around this blog!


i guess if we went with your theory, we could logically say “what’s the problem, it’s just a bus ride, we can sit in the back; what’s the problem, it’s just a white-only water fountain, here’s one here that says for colors; what’s the problem it’s just an all white school; need i go on!

You’re obviously fuckin CLUELESS!!!!!Along with all the other clueless asses who can’t see the forest for the trees! There’s a much bigger picture in this, and if you don’t see it, can’t help you there! I can only encourage you to please, open your eyes and see the big picture! There’s such a thing called subtle racism, and while i don’t think that’s the purposeful intention here, this one move can snow ball into other things. You have to fight just as hard for the SEEMINGLY SMALL THINGS when they happen as you do for the OBVIOUS BIG THINGS. That’s what other races of people do, they see the big picture, and they don’t let you get away with shit! I can definitely understand that logic! Sadly so many of us are lost, just like monica’s song said “SO GONE!”

182.

STRONGMINDED

Monday, October 16, 2006 /

OOps I meant the part!

183.

cubby qt

Tuesday, October 17, 2006 /

I’m not so neccessarily “offended” by a none-black woman playing the part of a black/mixed person. But I do feel that there are some many talented & racially mixed women actors to choose from it would’ve been an immpressive as well as unprecedented action on the film company’s part to make a concerted effort to cast the more accurate/authentic actor…

184.

justthefacts

Tuesday, October 17, 2006 /

I have never heard of Thandie till now, the point of making a movie is two fold, if it this type of story it is to get the story out and inform the public. Number two is that they want to make money. Pitt bought the rights to this movie a while a go. Jolie is a strong actress with great draw. The talk about black face is just rediculous. It appears to me she had a fake tan sprayed on her. Hollywood celebs do this all the time. It is far from being in “blackface”. People please…….Thandie you cannot have it both ways you cant make the accusation and then turn around and say you are not passing judgement you will wait and see. You got the ball rolling hon, you brought this to a whole different level a low one. By the way I am a black woman and I dare anyone to doubt my pride in being black. I marched for civil rights and the whole nine yards. This horse is dead people get off of it. Not everything that is done is because of race. They chose the person Pearls family and Pitt wanted. Finshed.

185.

Libressa

Tuesday, October 17, 2006 /

I think this all is no big deal. It’s just a movie. A movie that most people will forget about. Why be surprised and outraged that a “so-called” white woman is chosen for a mixed-race role? This is the way Hollywood has always been and will always be until people of color start seriously getting involved. The problem is we keep waiting for white people to be nice and give us crumbs.

I think Angelina cast herself in this movie. You know she controls Brad. I just don’t think Brad Pitt’s smart enough to come up with a movie idea. I also think that if he were not getting some from Angelina, he would have never set foot in Africa.

As for the movie…bleh. It a movie about an idiot that got his head cut off. He should have stay his stupid butt home. What kind of fool goes loitering around in a war zone? Up to no good. Got in the way.
If he were Black or Latino, we wouldn’t have even heard about the incident. God takes care of fools and children. God said enough is enough and took this fool back home.

I just don’t think the whole thing is movie worthy.

I know it sounds cruel, and I apologize if it is, but hey, blame PMS. PMS causes unfiltered truthfulness in women; and some men.

186.

Danielle

Tuesday, October 17, 2006 /

Well to #177 clearly if you have to “research” it, it’s not an open problem to the public. Yes I’m sure that Native Americans have been upset by it, they probably get it the worst but my point is that it’s a double standard for us not to care when it happens to other people and all of sudden start to care when it pertains to black people. We are all “people”, and should call out when we see wrong no matter what the race. So I don’t see any justice by being upset over this when the majority of us feel contempt with watching Mexicans play Native Americans.

187.

leekagyrl

Tuesday, October 17, 2006 /

Thandie played a black woman in CRASH! Where do ya’l get this stuff, watch the damn movie….

188.

warrior princess

Tuesday, October 17, 2006 /

Okay, what the hell? Thandie did NOT play a White woman in Crash, we’re you guys even paying attention when you watched the movie? Wow.

Reply to #158: Two wrongs dont make a right. I dont think its justifyable to bring up those “Well nobody says anything when…” analogies because you’re just avoiding the problem, not furthering the argument. (And big ups to #186’s last reply post). How many times have Native Americans been portrayed in cinema PERIOD? How many full blood Native Americans exist PERIOD? (Now take that amount, and tell me how many of them are actors and actresses? Now take that amount, and tell me which one of them are some what famous?) Think about those questions carefully. I mean, really…

189.

Lili

Tuesday, October 17, 2006 /

I thought Thandi would have been great in that role. When I saw Angelina’s pic I thought she looked just like Thandie. Just goes to show you…..HOLLYWOOD STILL DOESN’T GET IT!

190.

Trishna

Thursday, October 19, 2006 /

185 Labressa,

Just to start off Brad Pitt isn’t even close to being dumb. The man runs his own production company, just like Spike and has been raking in the cash with Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, The Departed and Running with Scissors which is coming out in a couple weeks. Please Lord let me be so dumb so that I can be worth $100 million cash, not counting a production company, 3 mansions, umpteen cars, bikes and two planes.

Also, I just want to point out that so many of you keep bringing up Jennifer Aniston. She was NEVER going to play this role. She has said so herself in print interviews and Brad said it during a tv interview while he and Jen were still married. The tabloids made that story up to sell magazines. Don’t believe everything you read.

Finally, Mariane Pearl who wrote her own memoir and sold it to Brad, had final say on casting. These are the facts. She chose Angelina. Since its Mariane’s story then she can choose Kermit the Frog if she wants.
And I for one will see this movie because of the story. I would have paid to see the movie if Halle were cast, again for the story. Its about a wife’s search for her kidnapped husband. Their love story and ultimately his death and her survival.

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Tiffany

Friday, October 20, 2006 /

I always thought Angelina was mixed anyways lol but I mean its called acting Im sure its a lot of lesbians who would prefer a lesbian to portray them in movies but sometimes there are straight ACTORS who portray them instead..It ACTING and plus she looks very cute :)

192.

lula29

Sunday, October 22, 2006 /

I love Thandie Newton. She’s one of my most favorite actresses.

This quote is probably not real. The magazine it’s quoted from is a British tabloid, so please take everything quoted with a grain of salt. Tabloids do nothing but distort news. Thandie Newton sounded very neutral in the comments anyway, but really, the quotes come from a tabloid and most celebrities don’t go to tabloids to talk about things. Tabloids make things up.

Marianne chose or agreed on Angelina so I’m over it.

Brad Pitt isn’t a dumb man. What makes a man smart these days if he’s dumb?

193.

GODWELL

Sunday, October 22, 2006 /

BLACKFACE 2006…and YOU SILLY NEGROES LOVE IT!
BLACK ACTRESSES ALREADY HAVE A SHORT SHELF-LIFE AND YOU NEGROES ARE APPLUADING THE INITIATION OF WHITE ACTRESSES TAKING ROLES FOR BLACK WOMEN. BLACK PEOPLE ARE….
P-A-T-H-E-T-I-C.

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nigdisnigdat

Tuesday, January 9, 2007 /

aw yaall just hatin on tandie cuz u jelus o her n get a life cuz angielina is nothing 2 the black community wak up n smell ur blackness my good god.

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badgurl21

Thursday, April 26, 2007 /

thandie is just jealous cuz of da fact dat this role didnt go out to her knowing dat she use to date brad pitt……but fuck angelina thandie is gorgeous to anyway…if she was da 1 wit brad pitt or was fucking him on da side dat role wud of been hers black or white………however angie needs to watch her back cuz thandies on da move

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badgurl21

Thursday, April 26, 2007 /

im sorry i take dat back……thandie looks way betta than angelina jolie……angelina is so last year n shes only hot cuz she stole americas hottest man from jennifer anniston but we all know da truth so dont talked about thandie like shes a b-lister celeb……cuz fact is shes hotter sorry angelina u cute too…n yes our gurl thandie cud of played dat role betta

197.

LaDonna

Tuesday, June 12, 2007 /

Well, whether its politically correct I’m stepping outside the modern trend of racial bounds or the lack thereof and the “we are the world cultural” advancement” the house niggaz of this generation are proclaiming I’m going to say it anyway.

Its offensive that a role portraying a woman of mixed heritage did not go to a woman of mixed heritage, but rather a “foreign, european, whatever she is” female. The hispanic community gets up in arms when a puerto rican actress portrays a mexican pop artist (JLO as Selena) and its funny no one in their culture tells them their wrong for feeling that disparity or having issue with it. But then again, that’s what happens when you HAVE culture and cultural pride rather than trying downplay your blackness as is the trend for most of us today.

I’m especially concerned about this type of move and its pending ramifications in a day like today where the only images of women of color are booty shaking body parts with no character or humanity.

To the person who commented on Halle Berry playing a role as a white woman and then mentioned the role is one of a mixed woman, and that they should have picked a mixed woman, don’t know what Halle you’re referring to but Mrs. Berry IS mixed. Her MOTHER is a caucasian woman. Thus it fits that she would play a mulatto role. But in our efforts to be politically correct to the white masses we fail to research BEFORE we comment.

Back to my original rant. Black women are being faded completely out of hollywood presence and black women are the biggest supporters of this phenomenon. We just don’t care about anything. We criticize anybody with a different perception than the white majority status quo. Well I’ll take the criticism.

This not about Jolie being a better actress. This is about creating buzz built off the already sensitive subject of black women’s absence in hollywood. They don’t care if the buzz is positive or negative as long as it gets the movie’s name out and either incites or enrages.

We as black people are so content to shuck and jive and dance for massa as long as we are saying the right things, appearing NOT to be reverse racist by accepting every culture, every stereo type and every discrimination promoted against us today in the name of coming off as being open minded.

We’re no longer black, we’re everything but. Black men and media promote us in the most horrid and stereotypical lights and we just shrug shoulders and say so what because we don’t want to ruffle feathers or appear to be the angry, insecure stereotype. Some of us are totally disconnected from culture and our ties to black community. Most of this generation has bought the bull crap lie that there is no race…

Its unfortunate the no-race thing only works in one direction. If there were no race and it were about the better actresses Nia Long, Angela Basset, Alfre Woodard, and the plethora of other black female actresses would be cast in equal part. But ask them their experiences with hollywood and how a move like this affects their careers. I know, Nia was just in a movie. That’ll be the response. You’re right, she was. Playing the same stereotypical role sisters are ALWAYS given. Rolls of depth, that showcase a black woman’s humanity and character are far and few in between for sisters…

To all of you all hailing this move and shrugging it off as NO BIG DEAL, I hope none of you have aspirations to make it into hollywood because things like this ought to tell you there’s no longer a space for a black female presence in hollywood.

And the same sisters shrugging their shoulders or dogging this black female actress who simply “commented” on her shock ought to be the same ones who have nothing to say when more instances like the Imus incident and the worse racism that we’re going to face in days to come occur.

When the condition in Hollywood and the world abroad worsens, when our images are futher distorted, our reputations further diminished by these trends that we see no harm in now, when our aspirations further lower from loving being video extras and near hoes to actual hoes continues to grow…when the only room in hollywood and america for us to to portray or actually BE whores, sluts and doormats, don’t say a word or rally or complain. REMEMBER, you’re the politically correct one who didn’t see how little foxes like this destroyed the vine of our presence in hollywood or our reputations in society.!

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LaDonna

Tuesday, June 12, 2007 /

@129…standing ovation and bravo…at least I’m not the only one whit this perspective. These are some shucking and jiving, butt kissing, “massa” loving, house nigga mentalities running rampant through our culture and this ignorant generation. We don’t see anything wrong with anything. Nothing has an affect, nothing has a political message. its all about pimps up and hoes down, being hoes, who can curse the loudest and be the most ignorant. Who can steal whose man. And we wonder why we’re viewed as the most despicable race on earth. We have no consciousness, no depth, we love ignorance and tap dancing for the white majority. Most of us are dying to be melded into the white majority. its okay for a white woman to teach her child to marry with his culture, but not okay for a black woman to do so because when we do we’re angry and not politically correct. its okay for white and hispanic women to replace our images in hollywood and a female actres of color who comments, simply comments on her shock is jealous, a hater, etc.

Black people are BEYOND pathetic. Oh wait, I forgot, there are no black people anymore…we’re black, white, asian, and whatever other culture we strive to be to disclaim our blackness…

I bet if Lauryn Hill came out and spoke against our self-hating demises all of a sudden we’d develop a conscience and decide, “hey, something is wrong with this”…but as long as educated, culturally conscious people pay attention to and speak on these trends we’ll be viewed as backwards, racist, and too sensitive…right? I guarantee there will be much said about me statements cause I’m not a shucking and jiving “black face” darkie, stepping in toe with the racist majorities discriminatory media moves.

This move and discrimination just like it is what’s racists, but I bet I won’t get many hallelujiahs on that!

199.

LaDonna

Tuesday, June 12, 2007 /

http://brownsista.com/the...placement-of-black-women/
interesting article on this discussion…

200.

LaDonna

Wednesday, June 13, 2007 /

Jewell, reading your comments I’m sadden. You keep stating its only a movie and that Angelina can bring in more money. Why can she bring in more money? Because she’s white, and if not white, white enough to make the white majority comfortable. Isn’t it funny that hollywood never stresses to place dark skinned black women in mainstream movies to make the black minority feel comfortable. The fact that you’re okay with hollywood basically saying “we’ll cast a white woman here because she’ll be more acceptable to the mainstream (i.e. white female) audience” is disturbing in itself.

people are here jumping on others for complaining about a white female taking another ethnic role where a woman of color would have benefited from the OPPORTUNITY. but no one is addressing the 800lb gorilla in the living room…the fact that a white woman in the role is a better business move because white america would not turn out to see a film casting a woman of color, as is, in a role where she was married to a jewish (percievably white) male. America isn’t comfortable, once again, with casting a woman of color in a human, heartfelt role…

the fact that you further assert the white majority’s view in stating if it were about rosa or harriet you could understand the uproar, that’s ridiculous. the only time we should be bothered is when we’re not cast for out traditional darkie, slave, civil rights roles? We shouldn’t be bothered that in today’s society we MUST be bombared with images of white and hispanic women in humanistic roles while reflections of ourselves as respectable characters are fading out…

Do you all not see the trend where black women are being replaced en mass in roles in hollywood? Yet and still we ought to ignore black women being further x’d out of media limelights.

Look at the 90s and the new millenium…
In the 90s roles, at least in black films, sitcoms, etc. were available to black women. Now, Eva Mendez and longoria and Angelina Jolie get to replace us in films, in movies, alongside black males. Shows from grey’s anatomy to house promote the stereotypical black man/ other female relationship. But you rarely see them cast a woman of color beside a white or non-black man. except in shows like girlfriends where its safe because only the black audience watches the show en mass. if it were prime time for white americans you wouldn’t see it cause white women and black males can’t stand to see us alongside white men and they’d turn the television off…

these are some of the biggest hypocrisies in this country and we, as black women are just comfortable with it. that’s disturbing!

201.

ethiopian_princess

Monday, June 25, 2007 /

P.S.: Thandie Newton used to mess with Brad Pitt in the early 90s. Maybe that has something to do with it.

202.

Jody

Saturday, January 24, 2009 /

And now that Taraji has played Brad Pitt’s momma what do you have to say about that?

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