Giving a fuck about Africa is in!

that’s true and it kinda looks bad that most blacks say whites are oppressing us, but they are adopting us, maybe just to expand oppression lol…

It’s true. Black stars really aren’t stepping up to the plate. In any case, what’s the big deal? If that child that Madonna adopted gets sent back, he’s going to be pretty pissed off when he gets older and finds out that a whole bunch of people who don’t know him decided that it was best for him to return. When he’s grown, he’ll have the means to help his people in a big way.

Maybe Wynonna n Madonna are having albums out soon, promo.

On hand you can say that black celebs simply don’t get the same publicity as white celebs when they travel to africa to do good deeds. A Keys was just there, delivered medicine, and did you see that on Entertainment Tonight, or Access Holywood? nope.

As far as adoption is concern, i believe that any child that can be helped is a good thing. Although, I think all people , not just celebs should look at kids right here in America first. How long have you been hearing about non-white celebs going all the way to Russia and China to get a baby? Blacks who adopt to our credit will at least look to our own.

this is ridiculous… they’re just using this as sleazy self-promotion. what’s with madonna adopting a child who already has a father? instead of empowering people and promoting family cohesiveness, she’s making selfish decisions and ripping a child from his only biological parent… well, “ripping” might not be the right word since the kid’s father is all for it… guess there’s 2 sides to everything.

@ 5. That’s true. Alicia Keys does a lot of charity work and they don’t say anything about it.

That’s why some of these media outlets kill me. Obviously it’s something deeper than that. Most of these stars have an album to promote or a fucking tour to go on.

I agree with you #6. I am all for helping the children but something just doesn’t feel right here.It seems like more of a phase that they are going through like these children are the latest cool pet to get if you are in the in crowd. It feels like there is an underlying motive. I may be wrong but that’s the impression that I get.

im glad these clebs are bringing attention to some of these african countries because they really need help( yes i know there ar a lot of nice communites in afrcian countires but you know what i mean)!. it seems that they can not win if they adopt these black kids or if they don’t. so i would not even pay attention to the criticism if i were them. we should pay more attention to what we can do on our own to help the less fortunate. i will say that it is a wonderful thing that they are donating money and helping out these nations! it is about time someone focuses on the “motherland”.

I think White celebs adopting Black kids is the trendy thing to do. However, I think Angelina was sincere when she adopted Zahara. Madonna just trying to play cath-up. That’s all. Is Black the new White now?

I meant “catch-up”.

#6 the baby’s father left the kid at the orphanage because he couldn’t take care of him… He said so himself…

But, I agree with you on the cohesiveness angle… No one, not even the African countries that are allowing these celebrity adoptions are promoting that…

THANK YOU!

ADOPTING AFRICAN KIDS (not black kids) IS THE NEW BLACK.. YA HEAR!!!?

YOU AINT SEEIN BLACK FOLK ADOPTING WHITE KIDS FROM RUSSIA

WHITE CELEBS ARE FULL OF IT!

WE HAVE MORE KIDS IN AMERICA THAT NEEDS HELP FIRST. THIS WORLD IS SO TWISTED

Ms. Keys also sponsors SEVERAL families in Africa. They are all young HIV+ mothers. She pays for their meds, food, etc. Oprah’s angel network gave her $250,000 or something like that) to maintain her efforts.

Good thought-provoking post Angel.La.

I’m all for people bringing attention to the social ills such as poverty, the water crisis and the AIDS/HIV problems in Africa. I’ve been to Ghana and I’ve seen some of the poverty and other problems that some of the people there must deal with. Some of the conditions I witnessed were heart-breaking.

However you made a good point. Extreme poverty exists in America as well. Go to Bankhead projects and other places right here in Atlanta and you will see people living in an environment very similar to developing countries.

If White actors are adopting these children without any pretenses and out of the goodness of their hearts then I’m all for it. A poor homeless child is a poor homeless child and I don’t care if you are helping the American one or the African one. Just help. However if this is a “fad” then the actions of these white actors are despicable.

Agree with #9, it’s about time ppl start paying attention to Africa. I’m African myself and I cannot hate on ANYONE, Black or White, who wants to help out. There are millions and MILLIONS of African orphans, so why hate on anyone (celebrity or not) who wants to give these children a home?

And I hate it when people say American babies deserve to be adopted more, that is by far the most IGNORANT thing I have ever heard, are you for real? A child is a child. An orphanage in the US is a five-star hotel compared to an orphanage in Africa.

# 15 well written.

It’s sad but as people we don’t take care of our own like we should and I mean that worldwide and ESPECIALLY IN MOTHER AFRICA!!! So the rich white folks come in and do the right thing making themselves LOOK LIKE ANGELS saving the poor black folks and making US look like IDIOTS!!!

These people are doing all of this shit for TAX purphoses. Instead of donating money to charity, they’re keeping it and will pay less taxes.

All you people out here with kids know that you get like $1000 or more dollars for every child you have. Well imagine what these celebs are getting and doing.

I’m beyond pissed that these assholes are adopting black children. There are poor people all over the world NOT just Africa. I watch a PBS special where these people lived on a island, and every night while they slept vampire bats came down and would bite the shit of them while they slepted.

What the fuck is these peoples problems, don’t they have anything else better to fucking do the low-life ass bitches. I hope they all burn in fucking hell. They treated blacks like pure shit all the way upu until 1960, now they want to be us, they want to fuck our men/woman, they want to make music like us. WTF can’t blacks have anything to ourselves. Now they’re fucking taking our children.

Further fucking more, there are children right here in fucking America that need help, why the fuck are they going way to fucking Africa to get a child.

I don’t have an ounce of sympathy for Africa. A lot of people are sleep on our history. People like to think that the white man went to Africa and stole “blacks” but the reality is, in Africa they would have tribal wars. When once tribe would overcome another tribe, the would hold all suvivors as prisoners. So when the ships came through Africa. Africa didn’t have any goods to trade or money to buy anything, so they begin to sell the prisoners.

Thats how all this shit begin. African are no good arrogant bastards. If you’ve ever met an African in the US you will know that they don’t even like African Americans, them bitches have the nerve to think they’re better than us.

You know when I first heard about Madonna’s adoption plans, I had no problem with it. I thought hey, if she wants to help, let her. But then the truth started leaking out. How Misz Thing is being allowed to sidestep this country’s laws to take custody of the baby. How she requested to see 12 boys so that she could pick one out. Can we say slave auction? I mean, what was the criteria? How the baby’s daddy was told by Malawian government officials that a nice “Christian” woman wanted to adopt his son. And it was good for the country for him to allow the adoption to go through. This shit stinks to high heaven. And excuse me but who the hell has their bodyguards and personal assistant delivery their newly adopted baby instead of picking him up themselves?!

# 13 How is this world twisted because of that? Any child in need needs to be helped whether he’s in America or not so if these celebs are being sincere then why not help out any child that is in need. that’s like saying they should look at white babies before black babies, because it would be twisted not to help babies of their own race. That’s very ignorant of you.

Reads Lea’s post ***applauds*** Someone with some sense.

These people are doing all of this shit for TAX purphoses. Instead of donating money to charity, they’re keeping it and will pay less taxes.
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So I guess you know them pretty well huh?

You must be contributing a LOT to the world to be saying shit like that. It’s easy to sit behind a keyboard and call people assholes for adopting, so what exactly are you doing to help others?

Let’s not hate. At least these kids are being adopted, a rich a** parent is a rich a** parent. Oprah and Madonna are both money so bring it, lol. Who cares? Why does everything in the black community have to boil down to race. Yes, it’s a major issue but it’s not the only issue. Black and white people act like they’re the only ones on this planet. It’s not all about us. We got egos the size of damn Saturn. People need to chill out and get off this race kick. If you have presence and you’re about your business, then it doesn’t matter who’s racist or not because you’re going to go for yours and you’re not stopping until you get what you want. As this lady told me one time, “name it and claim it baby, it’s yours.” It’s time for everyone to step up and claim our destiny, not as a the black race or the white race, but as the human race. We can’t see the forest for the trees and that’s a shame. So let everybody adopt, except David Duke, ‘cuz you know he ran the Klan and he ain’t got no love for the negroes

I say more power too them…..are black stars adopting? I dunno, but if they are they sure ain’t getting the publicity for it…

but shoot I ain’t made at them, I’m just mad that ANGELINA is taking it far enough to tan her skin, put on a wig and dress up as a black woman for this movie. Who does this chick think she is. Lost all respect for her and feel sorry for her daughter having to deal with this lack of respect she has for black woman and the precedent she MAY be sending in hollywood for black actresses……white women can mean all the good in the world, but when it comes to color there will always be a bit of racism in them & no matter how much love ANgelina gives her daughter or MADONNA her son, she’ll never be able to provide the life expereicnce of surviving this world as a black woman/man and provide examples of overcoming racism theu will encounter at school, eventually on the job and everyday. Good luck ya’l! I like where their heart is, but maybe now they will see how hard it really is to be a mother of a black child in this racist world.

here comes the GREAT WHITE HYPE / HOPE coming to save us from ourselves once again!

these adopted african children are going to be soooo confused as they grow up! but i guess at least they’ll be swimming in CHEESE!

Look Jane Fonda been adopt a black child so what Angelina Jolie and dem did ain’t nothing new. I would have persoanlly like to have seen Madonna supporting that man & child financial instead of taking him out of his hometown. Um…

Just to ask a rhetorical question; why are all this adoption cases getting so much publicity? Why is it the in thing to adopt an African child or get married in Namibia or have your child in Namibia amongst these caucasian actors? Seems very strange to me. Do they really care about these children or is this being coordinated? I mean, I can be a simple nigga and say, “Yeah, da white man luv me and my little ones! What dese black niggas doin’ fo’ me!” It occurred to me that all these “philanthropists” and “care-givers” are into that kabbalah shit, which is nothing but Jewish mysticism and witchcraft. From what I understand, please correct me if I’m mistaken, Madonna will also be opening kabbalah centers in Africa to indoctrinate the African children with that madness.

This is to nos 19..woah…you must be the most ignorant person I have ever came across from this planet. To say such shit about africans…get a life..
You have no right to call us Arrogant and say demeaning hateful things about us. We dont need your sympathy, thereby, get a life and some common sense before you ever dare talk ill about africans.

You clearly needed yourself shipped from the continent, we dont need such coconuts in our hood.
GET A LIFE..Dont be mad at us if the world wants to help us. Maybe its because they know we geniunely appreciate any help extended to us. We dont bitch and moan about our circumstances. We pray and expect a miracle.

YOU CLEARLY PROVED THAT WE ACTUALLY ARE BETTER THAN YOU…WE HAVE DIGNITY AND RESPECT FOR ALL RACES..
I am sick of all the backlash given to africans..the ignorance is getting out of hand..to all the african readers, speak up against such hateful words.

The kid who writes that blog does not know of what he speaks.Black celebs have always been involved with Africa the difference is they don’t get the media attention that white folks get when they run off to Africa.

Let’s be real here, does CNN care about Africa or Angelina Jolie? Would any Black female besides Oprah be given even an ounce attentuon on CNN for her charitable work in Africa? The answer is no.

Whitney Houston, Janet Jackson, Will Smith, Denzel Washington and many others have given to Mother Africa and yet many of you know nothing about it.Black American celebs were at the forefront of the fight to free Nelson Mandela.

Let’s not act as if whitey cares for Africa more than we do because they don’t.African and Asian children are playthings to white celebs.When they want that extra pubicity they get a kid and then pass it off to a nanny.

Why in the damn hell are all these people going to Africa to adopt babies? I mean, it’s nice and all, but I can’t help but think this is the hot new trend for now like wearing those ugly Croc shoes! Aren’t there enough homeless and poor black children here. That’s that shit I talk about…everybody, including our government, is always in a rush to help everyone except their own! People here struggling and shit and no one cares. Since people want to be all up in Africa now, why don’t some of these celebs start a campaign to get our wonderful president to DO SOMETHING about the Darfur! We can go into Iraq where people are allegedly getting killed execution style, but when villages of 20,000 are getting burned to the ground in one swoop, no action. We need to get our priorities in order!

why does it matter if its a Black AMerican child or an African child? that is just some shit…i dont know what reasons these whites are doing it for..all i know is they are doing it. I saw on news Madonna would let the child go home and visit and learn about his culture. I mean adopting a child in need weighs more than avoiding taxes to me anyday. Whatever their motives are i dont give a shit…all i know is they are doing good. More well off people should do the same…black or white…american or african.

it’s a side day when you say one child is more important than the other jus because of where he lives.

Right more power to ‘em I ain’t got no damn cash. If I can barely feed myself I definitly can’t adopt young mustafa or whatever. Yeah it’s also true that black people are fucked up in the US too but not like the africans. If you are fucked up in the hood. Right Now Yes Right now you got a choice to change that situation. ,welfare,trade school,rap,play a sport,communtiy college,work programs,Target,City transportation, ups-shit, devry,get skateboard learn a trick get paid,call your distant uncle doing “all right” in ATL(they got some rich niggaz in that city),your local library,shit nigga got to the block and pitch somethin’,sell drugs,pussy, strip. go breakdance at the trainstation,learn spanish (cause you know u know mexican) and get two three of them shitty jobs. Now while none of that shit I just typed is easy. It’s still easier for us than for young kunta kinte. Like it or not this is the land of oppertunity. That’s why all Africans,koreans, and mexicans be coming here in droves

All the africans i met or came across were not very friendly. they came off as arrogant and snootty. But on a good note i think its good they are getting help.

foreign adopts are always fraught with shadiness. folks with $$ are able to side-step regulation regular folks cannot. i can’t really hate on anyone adopting a child who would otherwise live in abject poverty, or live in households where they are neglected…that is IF they are fortunate enough to be adopted.

Ugh that winona rider comment just makes me sick. What is the black child gonna be a plaything for her daughter?! Now that sound like some serious slave type shit if u ask me.

Ya’ll aint know? African kids are the new toy dogs. Everyone in hollywood is getting one! Before I get cussed the hell out… I’m just playing!

I have been saying this all along. As serious as this is celebrities like MADONNA are not doing this because they care. They are doing this to promote and stroke their own egos. Africa is unfortunately only the latest trend spot to be photographed or just having something to do with it all together. KUDOS to Oprah, BONO, Mary J Blige, Sting, and Agelina for their dedication and doing this from the heart and not because they’re trying to shape up their image or stroke their own ego.

This is an OUTRAGE! Africa has been in the same state it’s in for the longest. Where was Madonna, Jay-z, Qweneth, Kate Moss, and whoever else that just wants to jump on the AFRICAN trend train, where were they this time last year?Oops I forgot there wasn’t much going on there unfortunately. THEY ARE EXPLOITING THAT COUNTRY. I’m happy that Africa is all the rave but I’m sad that it’s all being done in vain.

Agreeing with #35. That was an odd thing to say. If you adopt a child it should be one that you fall in love with, no matter what the color. Not just cause your child needs something to show off on the playlot.

“Ya’ll aint know? African kids are the new toy dogs. Everyone in hollywood is getting one! Before I get cussed the hell out… I’m just playing!”

#37, I co-sign that. You may be just PLAYING but you’re also right. Sorry. It’s so sad.

Networking, you might be joking around but that’s slowly becoming true. That’s sad to say, but damn.

Britney Spears has TWO black/biracial step-kids. I wonder how she feels about them.

Just curious: How many of you plan to adopt, either in the U.S. or in Africa?

It’s easy to criticize all these ppl who are adopting but what are YOU doing about all the kids who are stuck in orphanages and foster care? There are so many kids who will never get the pleasure of calling someone “Mom” or “Dad.”

In many cities in the U.S., there are segments on the local news (e.g. “Monday’s Child” or “Wednesday’s Child”) where they feature a child waiting to be adopted. These kids can be 11, 12 or as old as 16 or 17, waiting to be adopted. What do YOU plan to do about that? Keep in mind you don’t have to be a millionaire celebrity to adopt. Many of the ppl I know who have adopted are just regular middle class folks.

To answer my initial question: Yes I plan to adopt a little “Antoine Fisher” within the next 10 years.

Also if it was so bad here in America we’d all be slowly going to canada or some shit. Basically Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth. If you are living in a land of violence,corruption,WAR,disease,death,famine,no running water blah, blah ,blah. And someone stops their life to reach and give you a helping hand, are u gonna give two fucks what color that hand is? So why should we? Whether you are Jay-z,Bono from U2,Oprah,Madonna,Danny Glover,or Angelina Jolie n’ Brad pitt. You can’t deny them niggaz is happy as shit to see an American. Any American! And from what i’ve seen it don’t take much too impress an African.They’ll probably name a street after Michael Jordan, just as easy as they would for Omarosa. Basically people in Africa need help. So somebody is finally listening and helping out –it doesn’t matter who it is. So we should stop worrying about hollywood fads and help Nebandu out by picking up a mixtape or dvd-. Cause you know he got kids (some in africa and some new ones right here in the US)

#29 GET A LIFE..Dont be mad at us if the world wants to help us. Maybe its because they know we geniunely appreciate any help extended to us. We dont bitch and moan about our circumstances. We pray and expect a miracle.

I guess thats why ever time I check my email I have a story about some African dying and leaving money, and that I need to send $2000 and come to Africa to claim it. Not to mention the people that actually fell for it, and have since be killed the minute they arrived, held hostage, and family made to send more money.

That’s why every time I post an item on Ebay, my email gets LOADED with people from Africa need to buy my item and send it to Africa. They will pay through PayPal. Know that Paypal won’t even ship the item until I’ve showed the the item has been shipped. Then 2 weeks later the money is pulled back out of my account, because the money was stolen.

But God NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO African are so Holly and pray for a better life.

Africans are so Holly that they rape their women and infect them with HIV.

My friend is married to a controlling African. He controlled her through the entire marriage in the US. He stopped her from talking to her family. He didn’t allow her to work. She could only stay at home.

This man took her all the way to Africa, and the minute they arrived to his family home he beat the dog shit out of her. He beat her for days. She ran away to a hotel, and since he was a prominent Doctor in Africa as well living in the US. The Hotel people called him and told him she was there. He dragged from the Hotel buy her hair and the police and all the people watched him do it. Because theres no laws against this in Africa.

That African man was so smart that he took her all the way to Africa to kick her ass. There nothing the US Courts can do about it, because it didn’t happen in the US.

So you can miss me with that AFRICANS ARE GOOD PPL SHIT… I use to get my hair braided by an African, and that bitch had an attitude the whole time she did my hair. The bitch kept yanking my head. He husband stood at the door and made sure she was doing her job.

correction PAY PAL WON’T RELEASE THE MONEY UNTIL I SHOW THE ITEM HAS BEEN ShIPPED.

Loddypopper STFU! that didnt make any sense!

Man, I don’t know much about this craze to adopt African children, by celebrities. However, American Black children are being neglected, with one single search on the website listed below I identified 1065 Afro-American children who are growing up without families! They have multiple siblings, histories of drug abuse, neglect, and/or sexual manipulation. For the lucky few with minimal problems, their families would rather let they sit in orphanges and foster care.. instead of relinquishing their parental rights…perhaps, their hoping that the mom will get a job or get out of rehab. PEOPLE this is SUCH A DISGRACE that it would seem foolishness, not to bring up the plight of unwanted children RIGHT HERE.. no offense.. F*** Africa.. ’cause every single one of those bastards comes over here with an identity complex.. that is they think that their better because their ancestor’s didn’t PICK COTTON..
So, the real issue is reaching out to our own extended families when you see a young cousin or aunt stronging to keep it together.. maybe adoption or takin custody of her children before they end up growing older and unwanted in an orphange, could be one possible solution to a problem with no end in sight.

Post the following link and see it for yourselves:

http://www.adoptuskids.org/Child/ChildSearch.aspx

I don’t think that it is fair to compare poverty in countries like Malawi in Africa with poverty in America. Someone mentioned that there are parts of Atlanta that look like a third world country. Try to imagine if all of Georgia looked like a third world country and that Georgia was at war with Florida and South Carolina. The situations are completely different. Madonna has made a choice. She is not sitting here commenting on the situation she is doing something. She is also donating 3 Million to the country and for that, maybe she deserves special treatment. It’s not right to trivialize this. A child is in the balance and one day he will find learn about this. Lets all hope that Madonna’s intentions are genuine and that the little boy has a happy and successful life.

I have a question, why is it that some people only think about US orphans when they see foreign babies being adopted? It’s funny cuz I don’t see any outrage until a celebrity adopts a non-US kid. Then all the protesters come out.

For all those who oppose foreign adoptions I really really REALLY hope y’all are planning to adopt a bunch of American kids yourselves. If not then STFU and stop hating.

at least someone is adopting them! also why all the hate for Jolie she was going to 3rd world countries a long time ago and raising awareness. thats love.

jay Z is JUST now going over there to do work and thats because he has an allbum out soon…

who cares as long as they are going over and doing something?

I believe Angelina adopted those kids because she was sincere about it. Not so sure about Madonna but fuck it…those kids need all the help they can get. They’re doing more than any of us combined so we have no room to talk.

@50…

I agree. I don’t see Rich Black Celbs fighting over 3rd world African children. Hell, I don’t see them fighting over orphans in Harlem!

Sure, thier is a motive. Extra press. But these kids will enjoy a lifestyle beyond their dreams. SOmetimes the ends can justify the means.

kind.

I think Madonna cares about the child she is adopting and not just doing it for PR. Madonna has always given to charities all around the world and you never heard about it. Madonna did not just go to Malawi and buy a child she has been going threw the adoption process for Mouths and this visit was for looking over the orphanage she is building with her own money and to see the child she adopted and take him home. I think it is a good thing when good loving people adopt children and I think they shouldn’t be put down and said they are doing it to look good to the public or to stroke there ego.

Adopting kids has become the new fashion acessory, let the kid get out of line. She/He will be on the 1st thing smoking.
And not everyone needs to be “publicly” acknowledged for the good deeds done.

When someone does something blessed, you don’t judge their motives, you judge the outcome.

A lot of people have posted comments saying they don’t like Africans who come over here because they are arrogant………Shiiit, they have a right to be. They come over here and get engineering degrees and law degrees when black americans (lower class) are still sittin on they ass complainin about shit. Other than at the braid shop, I have never met an African who had less than 2 ADVANCED degrees. I work with special ed (black) children and the majority of them are in the system. Why? Not because of war or famine, but because they momma decided to pick up a crack pipe. I know there are a lot of obstacles to raising your socio-economic status in this country if you are a black american, but you have to take some responsibility somewhere. I don’t care how many 8 balls you put in front of me…..I ain’t touchin the shit. Yeah, white people owe us, but guess what? We aren’t gonna get shit unless we take it. If you come from a low income area, get decent grades, score an OK SAT score, and write a sob story about growing up in the ghetto……you go to college for free. Our ancestors did what they had to do to survive, I don’t know what the fuck happened between the civil rights movement generation and our current generation, but if it ain’t rap or sports, our less fortunate ain’t gon’ do shit but stand on the corner (and yes i do recognize that there are hard workers in the hood, but workin hard doesn’t mean shit if you aren’t educating your kids about your struggle and what your working hard for)…………but i digress

In regards to these white folks adopting african children, more power to em. Being an orphan in Africa is nothing like being in the system in the US, its not perfect, but at least here they get clean water, food and access to an education.

Them white celebrities are gonna raise some fucked up, confused ass black kids! Maybe Angelina might be ok since she takes her son back to Cambodia to see where he comes from…but generally white folks couldnt raise black children to understand their heritage.

How can we say that black celebrities dont contribute to Africa or other charities?? I know many black celebs who contribute to “Save Africas Children”…maybe they dont publicise it like these white celebs.

Then, there arent that many A-List black celebrities out there….try to name 5 top A-List black actresses that are on the level of Eva Longorhia……

I bet you it’ll take a second….we really cant compare white and black celeb contributions to Africa when there are waaaaay more whites in hollywood.

I am glad to see that the children are getting a home love and support in Africa. I can’t help but remind people there are children 2 blocks up the street that are homeless,hungry and helpless right here in America.I know of many children, being an employee of the state, that have been through horrific times and hardships in foster care,hell some from there own damn parents its sick.I am heart broken coming home everyday.if only i could adopt a few here and a few there. ITs bull shit Any child african/white hispanic blue or green. God bless anyone who has the means to come into a childs life and make a change.

Why didn’t Madonna (or her husband, Guy Ritchie) travel with the baby on his trip to England? David didn’t make his London debut with his new “parents”; he arrived in London with a nanny and a security entourage:

“Thirteen-month-old David Banda flew in to Heathrow first class from Johannesburg on Sunday. No sooner had he touched down than he had his first taste of what life will be like with one of the world’s biggest stars. The team bringing him in - a nanny, bodyguard and other aides - dodged reporters at Terminal 1 arrivals hall before driving off in a silver Mercedes people carrier. But they could not avoid all the photographers and camera crews…”

http://www.dailymail.co.u...ule&icc=NEWS&ct=5

who cares if the kids are being adopted for a promo or for that person to look good or not they are being adopted and being put into a far better situation than they were born in or what most of us were born in. I dont think Angelina Jolie or Madonna would be cruel to the child that they have adopted. It is good that the media and celebrities are shedding light on Africa even if it is in vein. More lives are being saved, more schools are being built. i and keep it real whites are more giving than some stingy blacks we can talk all we want but have you adopted a child or gave any money to Africa? Sadly we need the white folks, or people with power to make others aware because if not people wont listen. For those african americans that feel there is something wrong do something about it.

#56 thas wassup…black ppl always complaining … the ppl helpin out in africa they complaining that their african & not American. Shit they helpin..what the fuck uuuu doin…

i dont care if they getting a break from taxes, i dont care if they gettin mad publicity, i dont care if theyre adopting kids for all the wrong reasons…all that matters is..these kids get a better life.

For years now everybody been sayin “help out in Africa”…Fight poverty…not that its happenning the same black ppl talkin bout…why Africa? ….

bunch a fools

I agree with # 31 & 38, Have you ever heard of the phrase “Charity starts at home”?. Well, that’s what these celebrities who are running to Africa to adopt are suppose todo. How can you go and ‘clean somebody else’s home when your own is dirty’?. Yes I’m glad that they are providing for these children who are less fortunate, but I’m sure that there are so many children in America who need a loving home and someone to care for them, who also live in an orphanage! Why don’t they start at home?. I really think that part of it is definitely a publicity stunt like almost everyone else has mentioned already.

I hate to say it, but I think it’s just a trend for white celebs. White celebs always try to outdo each other. At one time a lot of white celebs were having babies at the same and giving them stupid names, then they were all getting divorces at the same time, and then they were converting to Kaballah like Madonna. White celebs craves attention, but I just hope Madonna do right by the child. Because I think it is wrong for Wynona daughter to say “I’d like a black sister or brother,” as if black people are toys and could be bought off a shelf.

Yes, it is a shame whats going on in Africa but you know something nobody did it to them Africans but themselves. selfish governments and rampid corruption(sounds like U.S.A.) these white celeb can abopt them cuz no one i know cares to much for Africans anyway. It may be offensive but Africans r very rude and nasty when it comes to black Americans i say it that way because as i was being hit on by a African “business man” he make it a point to call me Black American. We are the same color but we r not the same people and Any African will TELL you that with no problem. they think us Black Americans are lazy losers who just take hand outs i have to hear that shit everyday from forigen people but mostly africans at my place of business. I am A Social Work and best belive Africans know how to beg wit the best of them cuz while they puttin us “cotton Pickers” down they have no problem getting hand outs. So it only natural to go with WHity cuz thats all they know.

So you all are comparing poverty in Africa to that of America? okkkk i’ve seen it all..

Maybe America should publicize it’s poverty and the need for Orphans to be adopted as much as they publicize the poverty in other countries and you’ll have celebs rushing to adopt some american kids…

All the stuff that had been written about Africans is real shit at least we have a sense of belonging. YES Africa is corrupt (but so is your own government) and the AIDS rate is very high BUT correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t African Americans especially the women more likely to get Aids then a white person. We as Africans have a history and heritage. You Americans are so confused and that why your suck in your ignorant stupid country. If the white celebrities want to adopt an African baby is good because they know how intellectually and beautiful the child we be. You people on the site can not even spell correctly……………. ‘Ya’ll aint know?’

Then why adobt? Perhaps you should let them starve there.. All the money and attention toward Africa isn’t going to change anything.. It will just get worse..

“You Americans are so confused and that why your suck in your ignorant stupid country”

“You people on the site can not even spell correctly……………. ‘Ya’ll aint know?’

66. Precious, please save yourself the embarassment and not talk about people spelling errors, because your paragraph have so many grammatical errors it looks as though a fourth grader wrote it.

I DONT CARE IF THEY ARE WHITE AS LONG AS ITS HELPING OUR BLACK PEOPLE I SAY HELL YEAH LET THEM RESCUE AS MANY AS THEY CAN, THEY CAN AFFORD IT, HELL…

The quotation “All men are created equal” appears in the opening of the American Declaration of Independence as follows:

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.”

These statements illustrate the idea of natural rights.

One of the greatest challenges faced by the social sciences today is the cultural norm of a large group of Black Americans always diminishing their view of themselves as victims who have been wronged. They fail to empower themselves by embracing their natural rights and choose to bond themselves in psychological slavery.

I support anyone who adopts a human being of any nationality or race, as long as their intentions are in the right place.

Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman adopted a black child long before it was in. I think if the child needs a home and they are willing to take them in and really take care of them then it is a good thing.

First time poster…*smiles*…You should be in London right now where all we are hearing about is this damn adoption..

I do have problems in the way the whole process was conducted..she literally picked him out of a bunch of other kids at the orphanage…to me that just seems disturbing. The fact she was able to bypass the procedural process in place in the country also gets the alarm bells ringing. What I also found difficult to digest is that yes, she did give a considerable amount of money to the orphanage, however it was on the condition that the money be used to promote that religion shes always going on about.

I think the main problems people are having are, the fact she is a white celebrity adopting an African child, but mainly the fact that, you hear nothing of her interest in the affairs of Africa or using her media power to highlight certain issues within the continent. Everytime I about this women she’s either kissing girls, burning the cross or trying to get everybody to wear those red string bracelets.

Being a British African I find it insulting when people suggests Africans or black people in general don’t care about their own. My parents send money back home to Africa monthly so as to support the education and the welfare of the family. The difference is they do because it is what you do, the media would have you thinking it is the West suporting Africa. This point also extends I think to the many celebrities who help out Africans, they do it without the medis fanfare..They don’t need a pat on the back like i feel a lot of white people do..!!

And I love how people keep going on about how is life is going to be fantastic now because she’s rich and can provede….Hmmmm…because celebrity children are never disfunctional,check into rehab by the time their 8 and other types of nonsense…..??

It may be a trend - and a tacky one at that, but there’s no denying that these children (Zahara and Madonna’s son) WOULD HAVE DIED HAD THEY NOT BEEN TAKEN OUT OF THERE SURROUNDINGS YOU SELFISH DUMB FUCKS. While you all are sitting on your asses judging other people who are at least DOING SOMETHING you’ve failed to realize that two lives (YES BLACK BABIES) have been SAVED. WHAT THE FUCK HAVE ANY OF YOU DONE ABOUT STARVING, ILLITERATE BLACK CHILDREN (even the one’s in your own country?). Black folks who have a problem with this should SHUT THE FUCK UP and adopt a child — PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR BIG WHINEY, COMPLAINING MOUTH IS. I doubt you bitching about white people is doing anything to help black children ANYWHERE!!! Miserable, dumb, fucks.

To all you haters and cynics, please tell me what you are doing to make a poverty striken child’s life better?

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“What is up with this sudden interest in adopting black children? Most of these celebrities can’t wait to jump a plane for Africa and pick up a child at the nearest village”.

Two celebrities adopt an african child and it’s now a “sudden interest”?

You really cant compare poverty in africa to poverty in america. I know schools in africa where there are 150 children PER CLASS. They have to share pencils and books! If the teacher doesnt come to class they get sent home there is no-one else to teach! They have no electricity!

It is always sad that there are children who are orphaned or abandoned but America can financially support these children - they will not starve and die.

It is well documented that Madonna has wanted another child, but it seems that she is now too old to conceive one herself so she has adopted and good on her she has chosen to take a child out of povery and raise it among her family. I dont like the way she has gone about it but she seems well intentioned

ok how about us black folks adopting white kids…. thats not going to happen is it. What im saying is its too easy for rich white folks to come and take up our black kids coz they think they nanny could do a better job than we can.
so what happens when they get fed up? and whos gonna show them how to deal with skincare???

It is a sudden interest because of who is doing it. You can’t make something a celebrity stunt if the media doesn’t report on it. I am sure that before Madonna adopted this child very few Americans (black and white) knew where Malawi was and what was going on there.
I want to ask a question here to all the black Americans on this blog if Madonna had adopted a black American baby would there be a problem with that in the black community?
I think the issue here for many people on this blog is not that she adopted a child but that the child is black. One has to admit that if it is the primary reason why it is upsetting people then it is a very selfish reason.

Do you hear yourselves? White celebs should be adopting children in the US before going outside the country because charity starts at home?! What kind of nonsense is that? You’ve basically just cast away the remaining orphaned children in this world. Do you realize that without these publicized adoptions most people in this country wouldn’t even be aware of the conditions of these countries and how those people live?

Also, Madonna does not live in the US she lives in England with her husband and children. So, by some of the comments made here, she should be adopting an English child before going to Africa to adopt a child there.

Now, if these white celebs were adopting in Russia, Romania, Slovenia, etc., then no doubt black people would be crying racism because they’re adopting white children when there are so many black children who need homes. They’re damned if they do and damned if they don’t.

Can’t let anyone be happy, can we? Gotta drag `em down to make ourselves feel better. We ain’t doing shit…I know I don’t have it to be adopting a child. Do you?

Londonlady - why couldn’t black people adopt a white child? A child in need is a child in need. You’re gonna tell me that if you wanted to adopt a child and all that was available were white children you would turn them down because they were white? That’s inexcusable.

And as for skincare…much like you learned to take care of your own skin these white mothers will ask the necessary questions to find out what product is right for their child. White people are attacked because they don’t know how to take care of a black child’s hair or skin right off the bat. Does a black woman immediately know how to take care of a white child’s skin or hair? Or do they have to figure it out first by asking questions and experimenting with products?

C’mon…stop being superficial.

everyone should just be happy that these kids who r being adopted have better hope for a future. An orphan in America has better chances of success that an orphan in Africa. I don’t think celebs should look at their own country and adopt american kids who obviously have it a lot better than many african children. they should keep doin what their doin. fuk the white trend accessory bullshyt, y do we always have to find negative in a positive thing?

I think Madonna (and I am NOT a huge fan) was trying to keep it low key, but she is Madonna, so how can it not get out.

I agree with Siobhan ….if a child has access to a better life…I think it is a good thing.

@ ORACLE: I am usually a positive person and I dont like to take it to the gutter….but “BITCH who the FUCK are you to come in here with that BULLSHIT…this is a message board..some people are even using their Treo’s, cell phones, and other devices to post…so dont come up in here acting like a 4th grade teach…..DUMB BITCH!”

Sorry you’ll…I promise not to go there again…

Well why can’t madonna or angela jolie move to these areas of Africa instead and help build them up rather than bringing them to America to dress them up in designer clothes. There is the cultural side to consider aswell. There are African’s who are doing alot to help their people but the news wont report that because that wont sell. Maybe these white celebrities feel that they race owes something to these countries, I dont know. There are so many orphaned African children but I think something needs to be done in the country they are in rather than taking them out. On the otherhand It would be nice to think that the children can keep their identity and then hopefully one day do well enough to help the countries the originate from.

Lilly, it is really obvious that you are really dumb, because if you really read what I wrote I was simply defending Black Americans to #66 which is Precious.

And dont you ever come on this board and say you’re a positive person and call another woman a bitch. If you gonna come at somebody, do it all the way.

Oh and f**k you and the dumb bich that had you, too.

I’m sooo glad you posted this because I was just talking about this last week! I know a lot of these kids need good homes, and in the end that’s all that should matter. . .But Hollywood kills me with the bandwagon BS. I think it’s ridiculous and even insulting that now it’s “in” to adopt black kids and go to Africa. WTF. Although some people like Angelina have been involved in helping other countries and people for a long time now, they are the exceptions, everybody else needs to sit their asses down. So now I’m gonna like you and your music/movies more or think you are the worlds greatest humanitarian now that you have a black child? Something like this should not be a trend. That’s sick.

Winona’s daughter says: “I’d like a black sister or brother,” like their picking out a puppy or something??? lol

Why don’t you see black celebs helping Africa or doing charity????

Because black celebs don’t get mainstream media attention! Period!

Look at someone like Danny Glover, he’s been an amazing activist for years. He funds and is on the board of an organization that focuses EXCLUSIVLY on policy issues concerning the African Disapora. Years ago long before George Clooney (who i love) was in Dafur they lobbied congress on the issue of slavery in Darfur and Mauritania. They when on a hunger strike during the Haitain boat crisis and have been involved w/ latin american politics as it relates to black people. He’s done some amazing work!

But white celebrities just get more attention. Unless your oprah, your a nobody in mainstram America. There are alot of black celebs who do charity abroad and often time right here in the neighborhoods they came from.

Look at all the black people who adopt drug addicated babies from Hale House in Harlem? You don’t have to be a celbrity to make a difference.

ORACLE:

I am 20 years old; I am attending prestigious 4 year university on a FULL scholarship. I am a SENIOR double majoring in Chemistry and Political Science. So NO, I am NOT dumb!

But anyway…. smoochies! Dont make my man, BOUGA come after you!

IMO, a child that lives here in the US has more opp than a child in Africa. So why not adopt a child in Africa. Yes I know we have to take care of home, but plz our own president don’t take care of us first. We have billions for war but healthcare prices are out the roof, and most can’t afford it. I think the rich adopt in other countries cause they have the means to. The average person can adopt here in the states, but they don’t. BTW I was born in a third world country, you have not seen poverty until you experience it.

On a lighter note, Britney Spears do not need to bring not more kids into her crazy ass life.

I hear what all of you are saying, but the truth of the matter is: We, as Black Americans, are not doing our part to take care of our own…PERIOD!!

I work in the state government system where I live, and just like anywhere else, guess which race has the highest number of kids in the system? Black Americans.

I am constantly outraged at what we have allowed ourselves to become and watch/hear people get mad when someone tries to make them accountable for their own actions–WHEN IS THIS GOING TO STOP? When are we going to stop being selfish and stop living by the creed “I gots to get mine”?

Do you really understand what these white celebrities are saying when they are adopting African children? They are saying: “Why should we adopt American children when Black Americans should take care of their own?”

We really COULD take care of our own, but I’m disgusted everyday when I hear black mothers or families have the absolute nerve to demand that the government give them money to take their own blood relative into their home? The money is for foster and adoptive families who foster or adopt a child. There are always exceptions to every rule, but I hear and see the absolute ruthlessness of black parents, on a daily basis, who won’t take in a relative unless they’re being paid; Who will drop their own children off to DFCS b/c “they just can’t handle a child anymore”, yet they’re still having babies. WHEN ARE WE, ONE PERSON AT A TIME, GOING TO STEP UP AND HELP OUR OWN COUNTRY? Black America….wake your behinds up!

Black babies are the new fad. Back when I was young the new fad was Cabbage Patch Kids. Maybe if enough black people band together and buy Cabbage Patch kids, the fad will switch from buying black kids to buying stuffed babies.

Just a thought…

well my felow african americans step yo game up and adopt our kids so they can have a better life a better education i wanna see my black pepole do somethin with their lives!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hate to say to make this comment about my own folks and I think the current phenomenon may have a hint of celebrity trend syndrome.

However, Black people (including our celebrities) seem too busy getting knocked up out of wedlock to adopt anyone’s children. Think I’m being harsh? Look at Eddie and Mel B. Totally uncalled for! What happened to responsible sex practices?

If Madonna, Angelina Jolie, and Britney Spears are willing to love a child and rescue them from poverty, I’m all for it. We and Africa need to capitalize on celeb interest now, ebcause you know they change their minds every five months or so,lol.

I think its a beautiful thing. These celebrities are providing a better life for a child, how can anyone think that’s a bad thing?

Its there lives and we shouldn’t critize anyone who opens there doors to an orphaned child. #83 both Madonna & Angelina were making contributions before they got their kids, they shouldn’t have to move there. Designer clothes beats no clothes anyday. I guess you feel he should be forced to endure a life of disease & poverty because that’s what he was born into.

#6 that little boys father didn’t want him, he even said that after his mother died he could not care for the child. Its not like Madonna went over there and snatched a child from his own father. I’ll bet there are plenty of American men who knew that their children were put up for adoption and did nothing to stop it.

I can’t believe there are Black people up here saying Fuck Africa! What is wrong with ya’ll. Children are dying all over the world from povery and disease and its a serious issue that should’nt be ignored.

And if anyone famous or not wants to bring one of these children into their homes, good for them.

There are lots of Black philanthropists who contribute and unfortunately it isn’t recognized in the media, but I don’t think it matters to them that it wasn’t broadcasted on the 6pm news. Giving to others is about the satisfaction you feel within yourself, not about getting patted on the back for what you’ve done.

I don’t think its a Hollywood trend, I think they are bringing much needed attention to the povery that these children have to face on a daily basis.

Some of ya’ll are ignorant as hell. Its about giving back when you can, its selfish for us to think that Black orphans in America deserve more than African orphans. Someone earlier said it best…..a child in need is a child in need.

Its sad to say, but there are Black celebs who arent even supporting their biological children. Its messed up that when a couple of white celebs adopt Black kids its a big damn deal. Who cares?

People should simply mind their own business or open their own doors.

I meant to add that Wynona should have her ass kicked for those comments. She seems to want a black child just so her kid can have a “black brother or sister”…that bitch is crazy.

I think Madonna & Angelina’s desire to help is genuine.

This on been going on for years. I lived in China for a years. Whites have been going there adopting Chinese girls since the late 70s. So it happening with africa now, let them give the children better lives. Hell Mia Farrow has adopted 13 kids of all races and creed since the 80s.

i’m definitely one of those ppl that thought that gettin these kids from africa must be the new trend. i was almost expecting paris hilton to be one of the new ppl to run out and get one. but with that being said i had to stop myself and think of what angelina and some of these other celebreties are doing. i’m not sure if i would have the strength and courage to adopt a child let alone a child from a different culture/race. i would definitely want to have my own because that is wat is instilled in us as women. if ppl feel that they can take care of these children and offer them a better life regardless of what their background is then more power to them. it takes a love of self and others to adopt.

Wow!!!!! Man, as An African (by the way of Namibia), let me just tell you that in my own country its not just outside charities that help, we HAVE our own organisations, women that adopt and foster children, in case you dont know, Namibia has a population of 1.8 mill people, many of which are now AIDS orphans, whose parents have died, so they are either left to be raised and taken care of by the Grandmothers, we dont have a system like America. We try our best, and we do a damn good job. Another point, not ALL Africans want to be American, please get that idea out of your heads, we want a better life, yes, we want our Children to survive, yes, we want an EDUCATION for our children!!!!!! Not ALL Africans are raping our own women, in fact, EVEN in Africa, in some parts WOMEN, prostitue themselves in order for their Children to survive and eat and drink water.I am not standing up for them, but am explaining the situation. Some people here think that ALL AFRICANS ever do is beg and ask for help, what you dont know is that some at home HELP OUT FIRST, beofe seeking outside help. SHIT, AFRICANS help out our own first, DID AMERICA help out RWANDA; Angola and other countries? Were are these people now?
in SOUTHERN AFRICA, as Refugees!!!!!!!!!!!

People, keep talking of the MotherLand, what are you doing for your MOTHERLAND? If you truely knew my people - then you would know that ALL HELP is welcome no matter what colour the skin of the hand is that reaches out.

I say, Fashion Accessory….A Black African kid is the new “platinum”! Dayum shame.

I dont like it. It’s like black children are the new “exotic” pets of the moment to these white celebs. Madonna even sent her assistant to pick up the lil boy. ASSISTANT to get your CHILD. Come on people this madness has to stop. Yes they;ll spoil them and give them great lives but they need to have a strict screening before they adopt so it’s know they are adopting for more than a prize piece to sow around. “Oh look at Malik, black babies are so cute, look at that hair, its like wool” You know thas the ignorant shit the celebs friends will talk about.

and after all of that Oprah still hasn’t adopted? Quincy Jones never adopted,etc? We are just now caring about Darfur? smh…these are people not trends and when we start paying attention to our problems, trust they’ll get put on hold..again. to me it seems like Black& White people are afraid of the commitment to help US kids. This way, if they fail, they don’t have to “see” it, when they go to grocery store and its out of sight, on the other side of the world.

I believe Wynonnas daughter has no sense of Reality.She is a child though. I am curious to see how difficult an adoption would be for Wynonna does she have a couple Drunk driving bruises in her closet and also a documented history of depression. I bet a healthy bank account would clear that right up.

damn supernova tell em how you really feel
lol

proof:http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/wynonnajuddmug1.html

and, why do I think “Mommy, Dearest” everytime that I hear these newscasts about celebs adopting blk African children? This is Bananas…ppl say that the reason they choose to go overseas is because in the US, you the process for adopting children is strenuous, meticullous, and often times very draining…well guess what???!!! YOUR ASS IS ABOUT TO COMMIT TO A LIFETIME ENDEAVOR WITH AN INNOCENT, UNSUSPECTING CHILD THAT WILL SHAPE HIS/HER FUTURE FOREVER!

Let’s see: (I am only using Angelina Jolie b/c she is the only one who has avidly adoptd children from Afirca that has been in the news)
***The following conversation is NOT real….***

American Agency (AMA): So, is it Mrs. Jolie?
AJ: No
AMA: Oh ,so you’re NOT married?
AJ: No, but I do have a live-in companion whom I am in love with.
AMA: I see. So, we are looking for someone to provide stability.
AJ: Oh yea. I ALWAYS bring my nanny on the road as we travel the world for publicity—I mean acting jobs.
AMA: Okay….If there were a problem with Zahara, how would you handle it?
AJ: Well, most of the time, our nanny will be with her, but Im confident that Brad and I could handle her.
AMA: and what if Brad leaves you?
AJ: HE WONT!
AMA: You;ve shown questionable behavior in the last few years…we dont want our kids placed in homes where they may be negatively influence.
AJ: FUCK YOU MAN, I DONT HAVE TO TAKE THIS SHIT…DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM????? (leaves)
AMA: APPLICATION DENIED!

African Agency (AFA): So, you want to adopt Zahara
AJ: Yes, I can provide a good life for her.
AFA: Your behavior is recent years has been questionable.
AJ: I have money and I can give Zahara a wealthy life so that she will come back later and contribute to her people.
AFA: APPLICATION APPROVED.

EXTREME…I know, but VERY SAD!

I don’t understand what the problem is.

If a Couple is willing to adopt a child, why is this an issue ???

People who have money & resources do things that normal people can’t get accomplished.

The thing that you should consider is THE CHILD.

THE CHILD will be happy just to be out of the Orphanage, and to be held…

This is a WIN WIN scenario, all around…

ok im gonna post and keep it moving because i can tell where this board is gonna end up:
blk american VS. blk african

@ novalism
you said it best, why sit up on this board discussing motives lets just wait and see what happens…before judging anything
your post was simple and to the point i can appreciate that

@ karen
angelina had a baby out of wedlock last i checked and madonna has two baby daddies (she had her daughter out of wedlock to boot) so um whats your point…

on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 @ 10:33 am

jRight said:
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This on been going on for years. I lived in China for a years. Whites have been going there adopting Chinese girls since the late 70s. So it happening with africa now, let them give the children better lives. Hell Mia Farrow has adopted 13 kids of all races and creed since the 80s.

Bill Said:

People also have been going over to Vietnam for YEARS adopting children….

Africa may now be the “Flavor of the month”, but who cares about the person’s ulterior motive…

Ultimatly, the CHILD will have a BETTER LIFE as a Result !!

And my final point: If you feel compelled to COMPLAIN, then I hope you feel as compelled to MAKE A CHANGE.

I don’t have the budget or resouces to adopt.
But I applaud anyone that does !!

Peace

I really do Not see the problem either! Someone called these kids the new “black pet”?? what the hell is that????
NO one ever pays attention to the destruction in Africa, no one paid attention with Rawanda nobody paid attention when the genocide in Darfur started happening a long time ago.THere are very few people who pay attention, and right now the celebrities are bringing attention to the needs there. You have Oprah, Angelina, George Clooney, and even the Clintons making a noise about the troubles here. Oprah has been helping for years so has Angie, and George clooney and The clintons are making a big voice for Darfur!! At least someone is trying to help. these woman are trying to adopt these kids out of a living hell!!!

I honestly don’t have a problem with African children being adopted. I also agree with # 56. Very well written. What I don’t agree with is Africans coming on this site and thinking it’s alright to talk about Black Americans. First of all your ignorance is overwhelming. Do you honestly think that if you took your ass outside a white person is going to see you any different then what you are. BLACK! I don’t give a damn where your from your BLACK! Don’t ever get it twisted! The main reason you talk about Black Americans is from your guilt of selling us to the whites. So your more real because your from Africa? This is what I mean when I say the world is so twisted. If you have a problem with Black Americans stay your black ass home! It’s no secret that every nationality hates us! But why? And it’s not because you think we’re lazy and don’t want to accomplish anything. It goes deeper than that. I’m a Black American women and I wouldn’t want to be in any other country than the one I’m in right now. I’m glad they brought my ancestors over here. I’m proud of my people and what they have done for us. I work in a very prestigous Brokerage Firm and I have one African friend that works with me. He told me himself that Africans don’t like Black Americans and they are very arrogant and rude and I belive it because I’ve experienced it. Any of you judging all Black Americans are ignorant. Your not god! I honestly don’t care how you feel about me because I’m doing what I’m suppose to do and I’m living a very happy life. I don’t complain about shit. I make it happen. This shit pissed me off because everyone hates us. Could there be some Envy there? I think so. Say what you want but I love my people fuck the ones that don’t. Just because the situation is bad in Africa doesn’t mean that the children here in the US don’t need help. How many African’s here adopt U.S. Black children. They don’t even like us. They don’t respect us. They will go with the white man before they help us and we are the same people. Your skin is the same as mine if not darker and you think whites give a shit about your black ass. Think again. I live this shit everyday. The darker you are the more hate filled they become.

@109, Not all Africans Are BLACK.

Webster/Different Strokes syndrome
Whites get the publicity because they own the major publishing houses….like duh….
Can’t hate on anyone who tries to improve a child’s future…despite motive(seriously questioning Madonna’s, makes me scared to have my nieces and nephews walk around…MADONNA DON’T COME TO THE CARIBBEAN)….I rather the scrutiny(publicity) of celebrities than the other side of the adoption where white men adopt young boys from third world countries and take them to the US for their sick paedophile life….that needs publicity….kick up against that.
There some African Americans who don’t understand their heritage so I wouldn’t comment on having white parents suppose to mess u up…as an adult they can take responsibiliy for that lapse.
Those who insist on Africa causing their own problems…please take a look at the ’superpower’ nations foreign policy and the ‘help’ Africa gets in terms of weapons supporting dictators and threat of restricting trade. Don’t hate on the Africans coming to your country and doing better than you (as #56 wrote).
Lastly, for those who insist that charity begins at home…..please CL post a link so they could find out information on adopting or charity program they could get involve in…less time spent reading blogs.

Loddypopper…I believe the word is HOLY …..

I belive it’s all for show or to ease there Conscience. I have seen Madonna look at Oprah in a prejudice way while on her show one time. Why dont they go to the ghetto’s right here in America and adopt what about the issues right here, or go into those areas period and show support to the black community.To mother’s who have left children behind while serving time in prison? It could make a difference in the way they turn out and our future crime rate! (Not saying Africa doenst need OUR help)
But the star’s have a financial advantage over most.

http://www.npr.org/templa...story.php?storyId=4143753

Ok I do feel that black children are “the new fashion accessory” and this is sad because no one gave a dam about them before Angelina Jolie.

Now every white person and their mother is hoping on a plane to Africa. Get outta here. Oh now let’s go help the poverty stricken kids cause Angelina is, gimmie a dam break.

And Britney effen Spears! are you effen kiddin’ me, it should be against the law for her to adopt anything!

@MzThikness, all I can say is Preach! Agree totally.
@Supernova, this is a message board sweetheart, a place where folks can post their opinions, and opnions are like assholes, everybody’s got one. You think its cool that Madonna and Angelina want to adopt black babies, good say that. But just because someone differs in their opinion on the subject doesn’t mean that they aren’t doing anything to help another or as you call them “dumb fucks”. So why don’t you slither your ignorant ass back over to Perez Hilton or at least take your own advice and STFU.

I see nothing wrong with adoption but, I don’t think Madonna is a true person, something doesn’t feel right in my gut….and you know, you HAVE to go with your gut instinct. I don’t think I would have had a problem if she took a more supportive role in the continent in the beginning of her career. She does not strike me as a Concerned person with a lot of history in regards to different cultures…Neither Jolie. Can any of them name 4 civil rights leaders? Do they know what amendment freed the slaves? Gave us the right to vote? Can they name 3 black authors of whoms work they admire, other than Fredrick Douglas? Maybe I can because I have a M.S. degree, but it shouldn’t matter. I really want to see how this child turns out in 10- 15 years. All, I am saying is, in order for someone to be an accountant, they need to take math. In order for you to be a dancer, you need rhythm. I don’t think her husband was down with this at all. He could have had sex with a black woman and had a baby…we’ll see……..

The question still remains, WHY AREN’T OUR PEOPLE DOING MORE TO HELP OUR CHILDREN?

You guys named Oprah and Alicia. Great, that’s 2 people. Where is everybody else?

And yes there are many missionaries in Africa helping black children but Angelina was the highly publicized celebrity that did it, to add to my previous comment

yea i think angelina was a little more focused and sincere because she always made moves to adopt abroad. but madonna is definately copying something she obviously cant be as sincere. to her is seems she rushed in with her mill and took off with a baby. not cool. i dont see her being a good mom to a black baby, her kids are other races like the jolie i just have a problem believing she is doing this for any thing other than publicity. but the kids if nothing else will have a life of privledge

To whom much is given….much is required. I may not have a million dollar salary (yet) but I do what I can in as much as helping the African- American experience. I contribute to UNICEF, NAACP (member), black colleges, I would love to go overseas- with the UN (to which I’ve applied) to do volunteer work. PEOPLE ARE DOING THINGS…as far as people NOT getting recognition for the work they are doing (celebs) what is done in the dark…will come out to light…not everyone is a media hog.

well madonna is giving back she’s been ripping off black music and dance all her life

on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 @ 11:41 am

Lady J said:
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And yes there are many missionaries in Africa helping black children but Angelina was the highly publicized celebrity that did it, to add to my previous comment

Bill Said:

Very TRUE !!

The Catholic Religion has been building hospitals, Orphaneges & Schools in Africa for YEARS !!!

Google MOTHER THERESA when you get a chance…

You can’t just paint Broad Stokes with your Paint Brush and say that Whites are evil for taking up causes in Africa.

People like Mother Theresa, George Clooney, the People that run the Feed the Poor Program that comes on BET on Sunday Morning…These people are living Saints….

Saints comes in All Colors & Persuasions…

Peace

Mother Teresa
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Mother Teresa in 1985Blessed Mother Teresa of Calcutta, Bharat Ratna,OM (born Agnesa Gonxha Bojaxhiu August 27, 1910 – September 5, 1997) was an Albanian Roman Catholic nun who founded the Missionaries of Charity in India. Her work among the poverty-stricken of Kolkata (Calcutta) made her one of the world’s most famous people, and she was beatified by Pope John Paul II in October 2003. Hence, she may be properly called Blessed Teresa by Catholics.

Born in Skopje, Ottoman Empire, at 18 she left home to join the Sisters of Loretto. In 1962, she received the Magsaysay Award for Peace and International Understanding. In 1971, she was awarded the Pope John XXIII Peace Prize. Teresa was also awarded the Templeton Prize in 1973, the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979, and India’s highest civilian award, the Bharat Ratna, in 1980. She was awarded the Legion d’Honneur from Jean-Claude Duvalier in 1981. She was presented with the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 1985, was made an Honorary Citizen of the United States in 1996, and received the Congressional Gold Medal in 1997. She was the first and only person to be featured on an Indian postage stamp while still alive.

While her supporters sometimes referred to her as the “Angel of Mercy” and “Saint of the Gutter,” critics have raised questions about her public statements, working practices, political connections, and the use of funds donated to her charity.

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Early years in Skopje
Gonxhe, the third child in the Bojaxhiu family was born in the family home at pop Kocina street 13, in a Vlach neighborhood in the center of Skopje on 26 August 1910. The Bojaxhiu family had a long tradition of success in crafts, fabric-dyeing and trade. Gonxhe was baptized in the Heart of Jesus Catholic Church and successfully completed elementary and high school years in church schools, where she was an active member of the drama section, the literary section, and the church chorus. At 12, she joined an Abbey, and at 18 she became a member of the Loreto Order of nuns. Mother Teresa, the mother of the poor of the world, always identified herself with her home town, saying “If it hadn’t been for Skopje, I would not have existed. I am a girl from Skopje”. Mother Teresa had a older sister and brother. She had a happy childhood with them.

Mother Teresa’s Home for the Dying in Kolkata (Calcutta)[edit]
The Beginnings of the Missionaries of Charity
In October, 1950 Teresa received Vatican permission to start a diocesan congregation, which would become the Missionaries of Charity, whose mission was to care for (in her own words) “the hungry, the naked, the homeless, the crippled, the blind, the lepers, all those people who feel unwanted, unloved, uncared for throughout society, people that have become a burden to the society and are shunned by everyone.” It began as a small order with 12 members in Calcutta; today it has more than 4,000 nuns running orphanages, AIDS hospices, and charity centres worldwide, and caring for refugees, the blind, disabled, aged, alcoholics, the poor and homeless and victims of floods, epidemics and famine on all six continents.

In 1952 the first Home for the Dying was opened in space made available by the City of Calcutta. With the help of Indian officials she converted an abandoned Hindu temple into the Kalighat Home for the Dying, a free hospice for the poor. She soon after opened another hospice, Nirmal Hriday (Pure Heart), a home for lepers called Shanti Nagar (City of Peace), and an orphanage. The order soon began to attract both recruits and charitable donations, and by the 1960s had opened hospices, orphanages and leper houses all over India. She was one of the first to establish homes for AIDS victims.

Teresa’s order started to rapidly grow, with new homes opening all over the globe. The order’s first house outside India was in Venezuela, and others followed in Rome and Tanzania, and eventually in many countries in Asia, Africa, and Europe, including Albania.

By the early 1970s, Mother Teresa had become an international celebrity. Her fame can be in large part attributed to the 1969 documentary Something Beautiful for God by Malcolm Muggeridge and his 1971 book of the same title, which is still in print. During the filming of the documentary, footage taken in poor lighting conditions, particularly the Home for the Dying, was thought unlikely to be of usable quality by the crew. After returning from India, however, the footage was found to be extremely well-lit. Muggeridge claimed this was a miracle of “divine light” from Mother Teresa herself. Others in the crew thought it more likely ascribable to a new type of Kodak film. Muggeridge later converted to Catholicism.

President Ronald Reagan presents Mother Teresa with the Medal of Freedom at a White House ceremony, 1985.In 1971 Paul VI awarded her the first Pope John XXIII Peace Prize. Other awards bestowed upon her included a Kennedy Prize (1971), the Balzan prize (1978) for humanity, peace and brotherhood among peoples, the Albert Schweitzer International Prize (1975), the United States Presidential Medal of Freedom (1985) and the Congressional Gold Medal (1994), honorary citizenship of the United States (November 16, 1996), and honorary degrees from a number of universities. In 1972 Mother Teresa was awarded the Nehru Prize for her promotion of international peace and understanding.

In 1979, Mother Teresa was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, “for work undertaken in the struggle to overcome poverty and distress, which also constitute a threat to peace.” She refused the conventional ceremonial banquet given to laureates, and asked that the $6,000 funds be diverted to the poor in Calcutta, claiming the money would permit her to feed hundreds of needy for a year. She is stated to have said that earthly rewards were important only if they helped her help the world’s needy. When Mother Teresa received the prize, she was asked, “What can we do to promote world peace?” Her answer was simple: “Go home and love your family.” In the same year, she was also awarded the Balzan Prize for promoting peace and brotherhood among the nations.

In 1982, Mother Teresa persuaded Israelis and Palestinians, who were in the midst of a skirmish, to cease fire long enough to rescue 37 mentally handicapped patients from a besieged hospital in Beirut.

When the walls of Eastern Europe collapsed, she expanded her efforts to communist countries that had rejected her, embarking on dozens of projects. She was undeterred by criticism about her firm stand against abortion and divorce saying, “No matter who says what, you should accept it with a smile and do your own work.”

Mother Teresa travelled to help the hungry in Ethiopia, radiation victims at Chernobyl, and earthquake victims in Armenia.

In 1991, Mother Teresa returned for the first time to her native region and opened a Missionaries of Charity Brothers home in Tirana, Albania.

By 1996, she was operating 517 missions in more than 100 countries. Over the years, Mother Teresa’s Missionaries of Charity grew from 12 to thousands serving the “poorest of the poor” in 450 centers around the world. The first Missionaries of Charity home in the United States was established in the South Bronx, New York.

@80 YOU MISUNDERSTAND MY POINT I HAVE NO OBJECTION WITH ADPOTION BUT CAN YOU SEE ANY COURT IN THIS WORLD AWARDING A WHITE CHILD TO A BLACK FAMILY??? I DONT THINK SO…CHECK THE STATS WHITE KIDS NEED ADOPTING TOO KIDS NEED LOVE AT THE END OF THE DAY REGARDLESS OF COLORING
FURTHER MORE 1 IN 3 PEPS IN MALAWI ARE DIAGNOSED WITH HIV (WHATS THE ODDS THIS CHILD WAS TESTED BEFORE THE PROCESS!!!!!!

sorry my last comment was directed @ MONI and not karen

lol ok im buggin today

my last comment WAS directed at karen

but to moni
there are blk people who dont even know their own damn heritage
some white people i know
know more about our history than some of us

Hi Bill…(sigh)…are there anymore of you???
Support cloning…yeah

I grew up without a mother or a father. A lot of you niggaz ought to be ashamed of yourselves. We are so pathetic as a people that we have left our children to be preyed apon by white people seeking publicity for themselves. Black people please start raising your fucking children. This shit is embarrissing.

@LonDonlady….you said….BUT CAN YOU SEE ANY COURT IN THIS WORLD AWARDING A WHITE CHILD TO A BLACK FAMILY??? ….

You are completely wrong in this statement.. because I am white, and guess what?? I was adopted by an all black family when I was 6 years old, and I am a grown ass woman now, so yes Courts do award white kids to black folks…..don’t be so damn ignorant!

Angel,
great post. Thank you for bringing some real issues to the forefront, amidst the regular gossip that we’re all addicted to. I have to say some of the ignorance I’m seeing here is shocking. *ahem*Loddypopper*ahem*. I fully support Tom Cruise, Brangelina, Mia Farrow… people who have made an effort to adopt children and educate them about their heritage. So everyone wants to know why don’t these celebrities adopt American kids? Have any of you read this sad and troubling story? I’m NOT saying that the effort shouldn’t be made to adopt at home, but with problems like these, I am sure many people consider their options long and hard before they just pick out a child - no matter how it may appear to any of us looking into the celebrity fishbowl.

@ Karen, how are Eddie and Mel. B. any less responsible than brad and angelina? Last time I checked neither of them were married?

Just because someone doesn’t adopt a child from Africa it doesn’t mean that they’re not doing charity work. And instead of worrying about what everyone else is doing, we should focus on what WE’RE doing. At the end of the day celebrities don’t owe anyone anything. It’s THEIR CHOICE to do charity work. If we were as concerned about what the PEOPLE WE ELECT were doing as we are about celebrity charity work maybe we’d be in a better state!

Also, adopting a child is NOT charity. It is a personal decision and is NOT for everyone. It’s rude to see those children as mere charity cases. Those children are just as much of a gift to their American family’s as their families are to them. If you want to solve the problem of increasing numbers of Orphan’s in Africa than you need to address WHY all these children are being orphaned. Adoption is great, but it doesn’t address the root of the problem. We shouldn’t judge people because their not adopting. There’s plenty of other ways to help. And their plenty of children right here in the US who need homes as well.

BTW. Josephine Baker did this before all of these celebs. I guess Beyonce’s not the only person “inspired” by her!

it is so important that someone helps these children. Caucasian or African American, these children need saving. there are so many programs (adoption networks)that help people who adopt children of different races. they teach the Caucasian mothers to work with Black hair, and for those that adopt Asian children they have programs for them also. hoopefully the American agencies will see the flow of people going out of the country and make it easier for Americans to adopt American children

You know the comedian Katt Williams (he usually plays a pimp in different black comedies and also stars on Nick Cannons MTV show) has SEVEN adopted kids. I don’t think any of them are african but nonetheless that is a great thing. You know black celebrities don’t get the attention that white celebrities get. The entertainment industry is very one sided. Unless you’re mixed. (see Halle and Nicole Richie) I hope adopting african babies isn’t a trend. That’s just horrible. And Madonna loves a publicity stunt. Poor lil black baby. I hope he has a great life anyway.

I think its odd that Madonna is “All of a sudden” adopting a African child. And the funny thing about it is that she ask Brad & Angelina for help on how the adoption process is handled. I really don’t like Madonna after hearing her pretending to be Christ in her recent tours. She will do anything, or be anyone to sell and stay famous. She probably already sold her soul to the devil, either that or she is EXTREMELY stupid for thinking she’s ANYWHERE Near Godly! Change religons all you want Madonna, your still the devils muse. Anyway, with all that pushed to the side for now I do still worry for that African baby. The reason being is that Madonna is hardly there for Her Own Children being on tour all the time and at all sorts of events. I mean it just seems like she too busy to take care of another baby. What is she gonna do? Have her nanny take care of the child until it reaches the age of 18? It doesn’t make any sense to me given Madonna’s history that she able to give this baby a loving home with a mother that won’t neglect him or put her career first before him. I guess we’ll have to see. But personally I think the adoption agency let alot slide with this one

I’m a bit confused because to my knowledge only one or two white celebs have adopted an African baby. Some of you are acting like it’s every celeb plus their momma. Until I see Britney or Wynonna Judd with an African baby then I will pass my opinions on that issue, if it ever becomes an issue. If they want to adopt a child from Africa, at the end of the day is their money and lives. Just along as the child is been cared for and loved. I know with Angelina that Zahara was an orphan and near death before she adopted her it appears to be a genuine relationship plus she does all that work for the UN.

Jezz, it looks like Angelina Jolie is becoming this site new Beyonce whenever her name is mentioned she at least gets over 100 comments.

on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 @ 12:23 pm

trinib said:
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Hi Bill…(sigh)…are there anymore of you???
Support cloning…yeah

Bill Said:

Hey Trinib !!!

I appreciate YOUR comments also !!

Love ya like a Play Cousin !!

Children who are adopted receive Love, attention, COMPASSION & the moral fortitude necessary to navigate life !

Some Children who were adopted go on to have promising futures !!!!

Here’s a BRIEF list of people who were adopted

Adopted Persons
Andy Berlin - entrepreneur: chairman of Berlin Cameron & Partners
Anthony Williams - politician
Aristotle - philosopher
Art Linkletter - comedian
Bo Diddley - musician, performer
Buffy Sainte-Marie - musician, actress
Carl-Theodor Dreyer - Danish film director
Charlotte Anne Lopez - Miss Teen USA
Christina Crawford - author
Clarissa Pinkola Estes - author
Crazy Horse - Lakota war chief
Dan O’Brien - decathlete
Daunte Culpepper - football player
Dave Thomas - entrepreneur: founder of Wendy’s
Debbie Harry - singer
D.M.C. - hip hop artist
Edgar Allan Poe - poet, writer
Edward Albee - playwright
Eleanor Roosevelt - First Lady
Eric Dickerson - athlete
Faith Daniels - news anchor
Faith Hill - country singer
Freddie Bartholomew - actor
George Washington Carver - inventor
Greg Louganis - athlete
James MacArthur - actor
James Michener - author
Jean Jacques Rousseau - philosopher
Jesse Jackson - minister
Jesus - adopted by Joseph the carpenter (Bible)
Jett Williams - country singer and author
Jim Palmer - athlete
John J. Audubon - naturalist
John Hancock - politician
John Lennon - musician
Langston Hughes - poet and writer
Larry Ellison - entrepreneur: chief executive of Oracle
Lee Majors - actor
Leo Tolstoy - writer
Les Brown - motivational speaker
Lynnette Cole - Miss USA 2000
Malcolm X - civil rights leader
Mark Acre - athlete
Matthew Laborteaux - actor
Melissa Gilbert - actress
Michael Reagan - author, talk show host
Moses - Biblical leader
Nancy Reagan - First Lady
Nat King Cole - singer
Nelson Mandela - politician
Patrick Labyorteaux - actor
Peter and Kitty Carruthers - figure skaters
President Gerald Ford - politician
President William Clinton - politician
Priscilla Presley - actress
Ray Liotta - actor
Reno - performance artist, comedian
Sarah McLachlan - singer
Scott Hamilton - figure skater
Sen. Paull H. Shin - politician
Sen. Robert Byrd - politician
Steve Jobs - entrepreneur: co-founder of Apple computer
Surya Bonaly - figure skater
Tim Green - football player/commentator
Tim McGraw - country singer
Tom Monaghan - entrepreneur
Tommy Davidson - comedian
Victoria Rowell - actress
Wilson Riles - educator

People who adopt are gifts from God.
It takes a special type of person to allow a stranger into their house.
It takes a special type of person that can go out and CHOOSE a child to love and take care of.

Here is a BRIEF list of PERSONS who have ADOPTED CHILDREN

Adoptive Parents
Al Roker - news anchor
Alfre Woodard - actress
Alexander the Great - King of Macedonia, 356-323 B.C.
Angelina Jolie - actress
Art Buchwald - comedian
Barbara Walters - journalist
Ben Stein - actor and game show host
Bette Davis - actress
Billy Bob Thornton - actor, writer, singer
Bob (and Delores) Hope - entertainer
Brooke Adams - actress
Burt Reynolds - actor
Calista Flockhart - actress
Cecil B. De Mille - film director
Charles Bronson - actor
Chelsea Noble - actress
Connie Chung - news anchor
Dale Evans - singer
Dan Marino - athlete
Dan Wilson - athlete
David E. Kelley - television producer
Diane Keaton - actress
Dianne Wiest - actress
Donna Mills - actress
Ed McMahon - entertainer
Edie Falco - actress
Erma Bombeck - author
Estelle Parsons - actress
Eve Arden - actress
Father George Clements - minister
Gail Sheehy - writer
Gary Merrill - actor
George Burns - comedian
George Lucas - film director
Gloria Swanson - actress
Gracie Allen - comedian
Harpo Marx - actor
Harry Belafonte - singer
Hedy Lamarr - actress
Helen Hayes - actress
Henry Fonda - actor
Hugh Jackman - actor
Isabella Rossellini - -actress
Jamie Lee Curtis - actress
Jane Fonda - actress
Jane Wyman - actress
Jann Wenner - publisher
Jill Ireland - actress
Jill Krementz - author
JoBeth Williams - actress
Joan Didion - author
Joan Fontaine - actress
John DeLorean - entrepreneur
John Denver - singer
John Gregory Dunne - author
Josephine Baker - singer and dancer
Judy Woodruff - news anchor
Julie Andrews - actress
Karen Grassle - actress
Karl Wallenda - acrobat
Kate Capshaw - actress
Kate Jackson - actress
Kirby Puckett - athlete
Kirk Cameron - actor
Kirstie Alley - actress
Kris Kristofferson - singer
Kurt Vonnegut - author
Linda Ronstadt - singer
Loni Anderson - actress
Louis Gossett, Jr - actor.
Magic Johnson - athlete
Marcia Wallace - actress
Marie Osmond - singer
Maury Povich - news anchor
Meg Ryan - actress
Mercedes Ruehl - actress
Mia Farrow - actress
Michelle Pfeiffer - actress
Natalie Williams - athlete
Nell Carter - entertainer
Nicole Kidman - actress
Oscar de la Renta - designer
Ozzy (and Sharon) Osbourne - musician
Parker Stevenson - actor
Patti LaBelle - singer
Paul Newman - actor
Paula Poundstone - comedian
Pearl Bailey - singer
Peter Falk - actor
President Ronald Reagan - politician
Regina Belle - singer
Richard King Mellon - financier
Robert Fulghum - writer
Rosie O’Donnell - actress
Roy Rogers - entertainer
Sally Jessy Raphaël - talk show host
Sammy Davis, Jr. - entertainer
Sen. Jesse Helms - politician
Sen. John McCain - politician
Sen. Lloyd Bentsen - politician
Sen. Paul Simon - politician
Sen. Paull H. Shin - politician
Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchinson - Texas
Sharon Stone - actress
Sir Christopher Guest - actor
Stephen Spielberg - film director
Steven Curtis Chapman - Christian musician
Susan Ruttan - actress
Taurean Blacque - actor
Ted Danson - actor
Teri Garr - actress
Tom Cruise - actor
Valerie Harper - actress
Walt (and Lily) Disney - founder of Disneyland
William Delahunt - politician
Willie Mays - athlete

I’m not going to front and act like i did not raise an eyebrow when i heard that MADONNA was planning on adopting a child from Africa. I was like ok, here we go again, it seems like everyone and their moms is jumping on the i want to adopt a _______baby (insert whatever culture u want). What bothers me about it is everyone is acting like Africa was discovered like fucking yesterday and where the hell was everyone when people were getting slaughtered in Rwanda? babies were (and still are) dying from famine in ethiopia, and all the other atrocities that the continent has been dealing with for decades? It does seem like the trend is to do whatever u can do to help AFRICA, even though there are babies all over the world that need help. I’m not hating on what madonnna is doing, ( although i do question her motives) because it is a good thing, she wants to help a child that is need and will probably have a much better life, even though he will probably lose sight of his culture along the way.

OK Bill nice list! but how many of them have adopted African babies compared to how many of them have adopted black children?

Slovely - you state “It doesn’t make any sense to me given Madonna’s history that she able to give this baby a loving home with a mother that won’t neglect him or put her career first before him.”

Madonna’s history is just that. History. Her past shouldn’t be held against her. Her questionable activities were before she was had children and got married. She now has two biological children who are living pretty well. So what if she has a nanny? At least her children aren’t sitting at home alone in some dingy apartment waiting for their parents to come home. Most successful couples (not just famous couples) have nannies.

I work and send my youngest to daycare. SHould I not be allowed to adopt a baby (if I had the means) because I am not home all day and someone else is essentially raising my child?

As long as a loving home can be provided someone’s past should not be held against them. Madonna has toned down quite a bit since she’s had children. She’s no longer the exhibitionist she once was. If she was currently putting herself on display like she used to then I might agree with you.

Sorry for the rambling…btw, I am not a Madonna fan. I used to be when she first came out but no longer.

^ I agree, what makes Angelina any more fit to be a mother than Madonna. How quickly we forget how crazy this girl used to be. Walkng around w/ a vile of blood around her neck and what not.

on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 @ 3:07 pm

Honey said:
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OK Bill nice list! but how many of them have adopted African babies compared to how many of them have adopted black children?

Bill Said:

Hey Honey !!!
Google IS your BEST FRIEND

Google Search criteria:celebrities who adopted children from africa

Celebrity Adoptions: In The Child’s Best Interest?
JOHANNESBURG, South Africa (October 11, 2006) — Reports that Madonna may have adopted a Malawian child have focused attention on foreign adoptions in Africa — and raised questions about whether it’s in an African child’s best interest to be spirited away to the wealthy West.

“Are celebrities doing it for the right reasons and not to make a statement?” asked Pam Wilson of the Johannesburg Child Welfare Society. Comments on talk radio across the region have been even more pointed, with callers accusing the pop-music star of going on a “shopping expedition.”

At this time, current legislation in Malawi does not even allow for inter-country adoptions. This would make it illegal for Madonna to take home a child from Malawi, although there are rumors that restrictions were to be waived for her.

The adoption of children from poorer nations — Cambodia, Ethiopia, Romania — by rich foreigners has been happening for decades. Angelina Jolie adopted her son, Maddox, from Cambodia and her daughter Zahara from Ethiopia. Mia Farrow, now the mother of 14, began adopting children from poor countries in 1973 with an
orphan from the Vietnam War.

Wilson said there would always be a “demand” for children from developing countries.

“There is a shortage of healthy babies in the First World, particularly now when there is no longer such a stigma to being a single parent and there are few babies in the system,” she said.

Adoptions of orphans from abroad have been increasing steadily in the United States — to more than 22,000 in 2004. Russia, China and Guatemala have been the main sources of these children; only a few hundred per year have come from Africa.

By 2010, the U.N. estimates, 18 million African children will have lost a parent to AIDS. Already there are more than 43 million orphans on the world’s poorest continent.

In Africa, orphans usually are absorbed into extended families, but AIDS has affected many of the people who might have traditionally provided support. So, many of those millions who have lost parents to AIDS or other causes are cared for by orphanages — or find themselves living on the streets.

While some may see a great need being left unfilled, international adoptions are not “an easy option,” said Jackie Schoeman, executive director of Cotlands, a South African
organization that cares for children affected by HIV.

“For us, first prize is to place the kids locally or even regionally. If the only other option is for them to be in a long-term institutional then we would consider international adoption.”

Schoeman said there were advantages to international adoptions. Recently one of the children for whom her organization cares was adopted by parents in the U.S. and now can receive medical care unavailable in South Africa.

However, Schoeman and others are concerned about the long-term effects of such a big move on a child, particularly in the development of cultural and individual identities.

“We don’t really know enough about what a black child growing up in Finland is going to feel. I don’t think it would be an alien culture because they would have grown up exposed to it. But will they have felt better staying at home?” she asked.

At the heart of the matter is the motivation of people wanting to adopt orphans from troubled countries, especially HIV-positive children.

“Sometimes the response is emotional. They just want to help without understanding the long-term implications,” Schoeman said.

Some advocacy groups in the United States say Americans seeking to adopt should turn first to children in the U.S. foster care system, but Adam Pertman — executive director of the Evan B. Donaldson Adoption Institute — says both domestic and overseas adoptions are growing, and should be encouraged.

As for celebrities adopting poor children from Africa, Pertman said there was no reason to be critical or cynical.

“They’re doing what more Americas all over the country are doing — adopting children,” he said. “More Americans are adopting from abroad, more are adopting from Africa… They (the celebrities) just happen to be getting the attention.”

“Is there a self-serving aspect to it? I don’t have any idea,” Pertman said. “They didn’t do anything fundamentally different from other families. They did a really good thing for a couple of kids.”

There is increasing desire among communities to keep vulnerable or orphaned children within them, said Bill Philbrick, manager of the Hope for the Atlanta, Ga.-based African Children Initiative (HACI), a pan-African effort established in 2000 as a partnership between organizations such as CARE, Save the Children UK and World
Vision.

To make it easier to care for such children within their own community, said Philbrick, grandparents, extended families or caregivers need help to access AIDS treatments and other medical and health care as well as education and food security.

“International adoptions are not a solution. The answer is supporting the community,” he said.

Which is what Eye of the Child, a child rights group in Malawi, has called on Madonna to do. In an open letter to “Madam Madonna” the organization urges her to help fund existing programs in Malawi to help vulnerable children. The group also applauded efforts by her charity, Raising Malawi, which aims to set up an orphan care center.

Copyright 2006 by The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

Chris Tucker was in Africa for a year giving back. As are a lot of other Black celebs and most of them don’t get attention for what they have done.Yes there are many American children (black,white or the other) that need to be adopted, but American or not a child with out a family is just that. Can you imagine growing up with out a family, (Traditional or non-traditional)? With facing such travesties just to make it through each day is overwhelming to say the least. Here we’re posting blogs, and children in Africa face, famine, death, poverty, rape and many other things daily and most before they’re 10. Wow so to have someone who can share the wealth be willing to do that, forget the motives. For if its not being done with sincere intentions the rich will pay for more than just the kid in due time.

I don’t know what Madonna’s intentions are, only she truly knows why she does what she does. My only comment on that is that it would have been much better had she picked up her own adopted child, having the assistant pick him up seems very…cold. Don’t delegate something like picking up your adopted child for the first time to an assistant.

I also think that people are relying too heavily on stereotypes. I have met Africans with very nasty attitudes, and I’ve met Africans who were very cool and great to get along with. We all know that there are Black Americans who are very cool, intelligent, and ambitious/successful as well as those who are trashy, lazy, and have nasty attitudes. Not all Africans are nasty, not all Americans are lazy.

Charity starting at home is not nonsense, but if someone wants to adopt outside the US, that’s their prerogative. I’d like to work with kids who don’t have parents and I’d love to adopt later in life but I’d like to take that slow and progress from volunteering to work with the kids before taking one in my home.

At the end of the day, people (celebrity or not) are going to do what they want.

i don’t have a problem with the adoption persay just with the culture change. is she going to teach the child about his culture? his language, food, parents, etc. this are the kind of things that i find very important. if she can do that and still be able to raise him then that’s fine even though i think she could have easily supported the child and the father but to each his own.

This is funny, wether the child being adopted is white, black, yellow or purple is irrelevant. Its the fact that they are being adopted that counts. Lord there’s now way to win with people. Thats why She did what the hell she felt in her heart to do. On another note, a lot of this celebs try to keep those kids out of the spotlight, in case u have not noticed.

Madonna’s history is just that. History. Her past shouldn’t be held against her. Her questionable activities were before she was had children and got married.

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Okay, If you choose to believe that. But I don’t think alot of what she is doing Now is unrelated from what she’s done in the past. That’s my point. If you read my entire statement you would see what I was talking about. That fact that you take your child to daycare (Key word being “Day” meaning you will eventually pickup your child before the day is over) Is not the same as not seeing your child for weeks or even months because of tour scheduels. I don’t know the woman, but neither do you. Only her children can say how they really feel about their mom going on tour all the time and having very little time to spend with them. That’s all I got to say. Peace!

on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 @ 10:05 pm

Ddub said:
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Let’s not hate. At least these kids are being adopted, a rich a** parent is a rich a** parent. Oprah and Madonna are both money so bring it, lol. Who cares? Why does everything in the black community have to boil down to race. Yes, it’s a major issue but it’s not the only issue. Black and white people act like they’re the only ones on this planet. It’s not all about us. We got egos the size of damn Saturn. People need to chill out and get off this race kick. If you have presence and you’re about your business, then it doesn’t matter who’s racist or not because you’re going to go for yours and you’re not stopping until you get what you want. As this lady told me one time, “name it and claim it baby, it’s yours.” It’s time for everyone to step up and claim our destiny, not as a the black race or the white race, but as the human race. We can’t see the forest for the trees and that’s a shame. So let everybody adopt, except David Duke, ‘cuz you know he ran the Klan and he ain’t got no love for the negroes

Bill Said:

PREACH !!!
I like that..Name it & Claim it…I’m going to borrow that !!!

It’s all about economic empowerment…

When you have money like Oprah, Russell Simmons, Robert Johnson, Bill Cosby, etc, etc, you can go to Africa, pick up a plane load of orphans and bring them to YOUR house for the weekend…

But….Everyoe isn’t prepared to do that for various reasons, so anyone that takes the time to adopt, is a wonderfult person in my book…

we cannot assume black celebs don’t do charity or adopt children. when does the media ever show black folk in a positive light?! i’ll answer that, NEVER !!!the other thing about black celebs adopting children, maybe they don’t do it because they don’t believe in taking a child from there home country and culture. white folks don’t care about that. remember how we got here ya’ll. i know countries in africa are poor but damn do you think white folk really know how to raise nonwhite children?! little maddox and zahara will be rich and have material wealth but they wont have a clue as to what it means to be African or Asian. they will have some issues.

A lot of people who are not celebrities go to foreign countries to adopt, but they don’t have cameras following them around to catch their every move. A lot of celebs like A. Keys and Oprah do a lot for charities but also a lot of celebs don’t want to do it for TV, they do it from the heart, so why have cameras catching everything they do just for TV sake. Celebs do because they are in the public eye all the time and eventually we would have found out regardless. I personally think that it is a good thing, if you have the means and the money to adopt, who cares where the child is from as long as the child is well taken care of and provided for and loved, why should i (we) be mad at that”. I don’t think that there is a motive behind it, she been in the process of adoption for 18 months now, and that is not a decision that is made lightly. Madonna is also older and at this stage in her life she probably doesn’t want to have a biological child, instead they chose to adopt, there was a need there and that’s where she went, so what, i applaud her for doing it and i wish them the very best and hope that their family is blessed with this new addition to their home.

A happy home is a happy home, lets just hope that these stars homes are happy.

People tend to believe that money equates to happiness; when we know that some of these stars are just as fu**ed up as some of the plain ol’ citizens of the world. Take Michael Jackson for instance… huh? oh… you say those are his biological kids, well I got some oil front property in Iraq I’d like to sell you; for cheap!

And to go with my previous comments #114 and #118, I am ALL for adoption of any kind…period.

I just have a problem with the motives of some of these celebrities who are all gung ho all of a sudden to adopt these children.

My mother and my uncle were adopted and it is a BEAUTIFUL thing, I know I will adopt atleast 1 child after I conceive my own or whatever God has planned first.

I just hope these celebrities motives are right. I mean, what are they going to answer if the child may ask, why did you adopt me? I guess the TRUTH will go something like because Angelina and Brad were adopting children.

blaxdon–you are a f*cking idiot, i loved everything you said, lol. it was true and hillarious. help is help don’t matter whose doing it and we really should stop talking about we got needy kids her and all this and tha—that’s our responsiblity we have the power, resources, and opportunity to fix that sh1t even though some people don’t think that. africa on the other hand ain’t got sh1t but aids and hunger, and i don’t understand how anybody can compare the state of africa and 3 world country and there people to our situations in america. at the same time, i don’t like the way that modanna has gone about he process, angelina and all the other celebs that have done this seemed to have gone about it the in the correct way and that’s fine with me. there’s a legal adoption process for a reason and she just bypassed all that sh1t and that’s not cool. what is she in such a hurry for—was this kid supposed to be christmas present for lourdis or something?

Why the fuck is Britney adopting black kids?? Why can’t she just babysit Kevin’s Niggas?? If Shar says it’s OK. lol

Hell, If I was born and living in a rural, poor ass part of Africa…I’d LOVE for Madonna to adopt me….FUCK what you heard!! Save me!!

I’m happy these kids are being placed in homes regardless of the color of their parents. My thing is, if it’s such a trend to adopt black kids, there are plenty in America that are being overlooked. But hey more power to them.

Who did Ozzy and Sharon adopt??

@ # 44, u aint meet me yet, u cant hate on all of us.

At first, I wondered about Madonna’s motives for adopting, but now, I’m just glad that another child is getting a home

Madonna automatically gets alot of spotlight wherever she goes. Even if she’d have adopted a child from England, she still would have gotten ALOT of publicity.

Brad Pitt called it “an automatic spotlight”.

Black celebs don’t have that “automatic spotlight”, (except for Oprah) so of course we’re not going to hear about what they do to support Africa.

Regardless of their motives, I’m glad that White celebs are using their “celebrity” to bring attention to IMPORTANT issues affecting the world. They’ve used their celebrity to promote someone’s clothing line, so it’s high time that they use it for something that REALLY MATTERS.

Let’s be real…if George Clooney had never gone over to Darfur to document that tragedy, CNN would have given it a 30 second clip and that would have been ALL. IMO, I think Clooney knew that, and that’s why he and his dad went over there. They knew that the American media would IGNORE it, unless some BIG CELEB brought attention to it.

It’s sad that black celebs don’t get that same kind of “automatic spotlight”, but I pray that as more blacks get into Hollywood, that it will change.

Alot of times black celebs do charity work and DO NOT want the recognition. I can understand why, BUT at the same time, I think we NEED to hear about WHAT they are doing.

“I’d like a black sister or brother,”

Made it seemed like she was talking about a pet.
You all have sumed it up.

From what Geraldo says, these celebrities are adopting the African children as pets and it’s an inside joke. The majority of these people believe in population control.

#138 don’t forget about my girl Angela Bassett and her husband! They’ve just adopted twins.

i don’t have a problem with celebs or regular people adopting children of different races as long as they don’t forget their culture. (but with some i.e. madonna i wonder what they’re trying to prove)

black people continue to amaze me.
Funny how no one says anything about chinese babies being brought to foreign countries and how they will adapt. No, its only when someone tries to help a black baby that people try to tear them down and stop it.

Have you adopted a child from Africa and provided her wiht a loving home? Then STFU. The bottom line is that if a child who was in an orphanage now has a loving home then that is all that matters. Who cares if the child is black and has white parents or white and has black parents? Loving parents are better than no parents no matter what color they are. Of course on here one would think you would rather the child stay in the orphanage.

Madonna and Jolie are not the first white people to adopt black babies. The only reason you even freaking know about is because they are famous and the paparazzi follows their asses all over the world. The paparazzi doesn’t follow Chris Tucker because his ass only makes Rush Hour movies every six years!

I know black kids here in my city (forget Africa for a minute) who are placed in foster care and later adopted because family members dont want to take responsibility. People just didnt do this 50 and 60 years ago. We were our brothers keepers. Now we are only out for self. I would love to go and adopt some kids from Africa but I know of too many here in America who need homes. Just keepin it real.

@uhhuh 165,
We haven’t “adopted” an African baby because we don’t have 3mil to purchase one so YOU STFU, ya ignant mofo. Dumbass, that skanky ass madonna lined twelve babies up like it was a fuckin slave auction, got the pick of the litter and you say OOOHHHH oKay, long as baby got a good home missy madonna that be alright with me. As for Madonna, I’ve heard that bitch called a lot of things, but loving wasn’t one of them. Can she provide a loving home? Or a loving nanny? And by the way, they say that woman that went to pick up the baby from africa was Lourdes’s nanny. Now what the fuck does a 10 year old need with a nanny? Thats so momma has to interact with her kid as little as possible.

everyone in santa monica is pregnant…its a damn shame that having babies is a trend and adopting “foreign” babies is a trend as well.

# Jqueen said:

I hear what all of you are saying, but the truth of the matter is: We, as Black Americans, are not doing our part to take care of our own…PERIOD!!

I work in the state government system where I live, and just like anywhere else, guess which race has the highest number of kids in the system? Black Americans.

I am constantly outraged at what we have allowed ourselves to become and watch/hear people get mad when someone tries to make them accountable for their own actions–WHEN IS THIS GOING TO STOP? When are we going to stop being selfish and stop living by the creed “I gots to get mine”?

Do you really understand what these white celebrities are saying when they are adopting African children? They are saying: “Why should we adopt American children when Black Americans should take care of their own?”

We really COULD take care of our own, but I’m disgusted everyday when I hear black mothers or families have the absolute nerve to demand that the government give them money to take their own blood relative into their home? The money is for foster and adoptive families who foster or adopt a child. There are always exceptions to every rule, but I hear and see the absolute ruthlessness of black parents, on a daily basis, who won’t take in a relative unless they’re being paid; Who will drop their own children off to DFCS b/c “they just can’t handle a child anymore”, yet they’re still having babies. WHEN ARE WE, ONE PERSON AT A TIME, GOING TO STEP UP AND HELP OUR OWN COUNTRY? Black America….wake your behinds up!

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Well said

I’m in a class about Religion, Race, and Film right now and I found this very interesting because we were currently learning about how in many films recently (Glory, Bagger vance, the Green Mild, etc.) black characters are used as angelic figures and nothing more. They are used in a way to make white people look better. These movies, and this situation (white women adopting black babies) makes the white people look good because they have sympothy for black children. It’s a sort of ploy. Anyway, a good reading on this is a writing of Toni Morrison’s called “Disturbing Nurses and the Kindness of Sharks”.

I also want to add that I am also disturbed that blacks don’t get credit for the good they do for our own community (like A Keys). This is a sad sad country we live in.

Personally I see nothing wrong with interracial adoptions, everybody deserves the chance at a better life. What i do have a problems with is that this sudden intrest in Africa comes off more as the “in” thing to do rather than genuine. In a couple of months, it’s going to be a new country and a new cause and it’s gon be like Africa what?? That’s what bothers me. I’m glad that they are concern with Africa right now and I hope those in need over there get all they can from these attention whores but what’s gon happen when they’re over Africa. That’s my problem. Hopefully this sudden interest in Africa will help make non-celebrities with less serving intentions more involved over there as well at home.

And also I don’t think ppl are trying to make this a children in american are in worst shape then african children. I think it’s more or less the fact that your goodwill needs to start at home. We need to strengthen so that they too can be in the position to help other countries. It’s kinda a slap in the face. Like how our government can go to other countries and help them build up their countries but can’t go down to New Orleans and build up something in our backyard. All because in America we are “better off” and have more opportunities, well how better off and how good are those opportunities when no one cares enough to make sure you get to a place to get them??

#163 Kitty, Angela Bassett didn’t adopt twins. Those twins are her and her husband’s biologically, they just came from a surrogate mother.

What’s difference between a black from carribean, Africa, America? nothing we’re all struggling, we’re all living in poverty and again according to their sources we’re all dying with Aids!!! I was really disapointed to see a comment saying that Africans sold each other because they didn’t have any thing to trade..in case you havent heard Africa is the richest continent on earth ( do your research) and furthermore what you said about the whole selling each other that is the oldest brainwashing statement ever..( do you research one more time) if you still believe that that is true you probably are not progressing in your life because you believe what they have created for you to believe. at # 44- if Africans are rapping each other and spreading Aids…Then why are there so many blacks in America living with aids?? are they rapping each other? Im soo tired about Blacks hating on blacks.. I’ve lived in africa, live in the US, have been to the carribean and one thing I can say WE ALL SHARE THE SAME STRUGGLE….WAKE UP MY PEOPLE …WAKE UP WE’VE BEEN SLEEPIN’ FOR TOO LONG

lol…. i can’t believe what some mofo’s are writting out here…this whole black hating thing needs to stop…you are right there has not been any progressive movement since the civil rights movement what happened? In case some parts of the US looks like there’s still segregation to me.. the fight aint over yet so why are people giving up? if you think your free you aint free!!! you’re giving up freedom for democracy… i thought democracy meant freedom? think about it ? now go adopt a kid because it’s cool……..lmfao

Kitten said:

#138 don’t forget about my girl Angela Bassett and her husband! They’ve just adopted twins.
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Those kids aren’t adopted. The woman carried the babies for Angela and Courtney. It was their sperm and egg.

Well, I must say that I am very happy to be in the situtation that I’m in!!!! I love my mommy, daddy and my brother and sister very much!!! My daddy loves oiling my scalp with Carol’s Daughter!!! Stop being so closed-minded people.

there are millions of kids in THIS country that need help…i mean c’mooooon

And so what exactly are YOU doing to help those millions of kids JaeJae besides criticizing?

#163 Kitten
Angela B. is my girl too, but she did not adopt her twins. She used her eggs, Courtney’s sperm, and a surrogate mother to carry her children. Angie considered adopting children though after she was unable to carry…she seems happier than ever with her twins!

http://groups.aol.com/angiebnews

Geesh I’m just now noticing that 2 other people already corrected Kitten….I guess we got some Angela Bassett fans on Concrete Loop!

http://groups.aol.com/angiebnews

Jay is still on his Global Express World Tour, which is headed for Bangkok. He just spent several days in Africa, and he said it definitely opened his eyes.

“Incredible experience,” he said. “One I’ll never forget.”

He also had some advice for black Americans.

“The first thing I would say is you have to go home [to Africa], you have to go and understand what’s going on and embrace your people,” he said. “The second thing I would tell people is: You’re not from the ‘hood. Just stop saying that altogether. You have a wonderful life. You turn on the water, the water is there. You got AC, and you have AC in your car. You’re good. You’re not from the ‘hood. It’s mind-blowing. It just puts things in perspective when people say, ‘I had it rough coming up.’ ”
-See told you them Africans got it fucked up over there

they don’t adopt american black kids

1)its their choice ,a t least their giving a child a chanc (no matter what race the kid is)

2)black kids from other countries have it way worse than kids here.

3)why aren’t black celebs adopt afro american babies, too?

@181 ‘See told you them Africans got it fucked up over there ‘.

I had running water, I had AC in My car.I am AFRICAN, I was a refugee, born in a foreign country because my own was fighting for liberation. My mother was a fighter ( she was trained to fight), I have everything, because my parents fought for it, I received a good education, by African standards. We were not rich, neither were we corrupt, we just worked hard. Today, my mother and father raise money and clothing’( and whatever else they can) for AIDS orphans in my country. What has she taught me?, When you can help, then help even if its a little. I have no problem with people wanting to help in Africa, but please stop thinking that EVERYTHING IS SO FUCKED UP, coz it aint. There are places, yes thats true.

However, there are many Africans that do help on our Continent, these selfless people also do not get the recognition that Celebs do, but you know what? THAT DONT STOP THEM FROM HELPING EITHER!!!!!!!!!!!! So what if black celebs dont get recognation, not everything in the world shoud be about recognisition.

SIMONE you are clearly a dumb bitch and you epitomize ignorant because you fail to realize that YOU ARE THE POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK. You are telling ME to not voice my opinion because you disagree with the fact that I disagree with other people’s opinions. Can you keep up? Or do I have to draw you a simple picture? And my criticism was not that people should not have opinions you trite whore, but that their opinions were HYPOCRITICAL and not very-well thought out MUCH LIKE YOUR OWN.

FUCK YOU Forrest Gump (yes, you are THAT simple) — do the world a favor SIMONE, stay off of the computer and go back to playing with your dirty, smelly cat-trap!

I am most proud of this topic here on your site. It seems the closest discussion to an academic and social problem. Finally the blog goes deeper and I bet you had no idea what kind of discussion you created here.

It was absolutely beautiful hearing people vent about foster kids needing adoption and also seeing that people can see through the self-promotion antic going on with White people adopting.

We have bigger issues though in Africa with people needing to be on contraception when they can’t aford to even take care of themselves. Sex is a stress reliever and a chance for two souls to connect and exchange. That does not necessarily mean everyone should carry a baby to term and for the most part, even get pregnant. Contraception has not reached these regions of Africa. And understanding to not have a baby because they are poor for some reason goes past the reality that condoms are not in their villages nor is birth control. I don’t think they all want to have children but places all over the world don’tknow or have access to what we know in knowledge that we can control population growth and poverty by using a condom or contraception.

We take for granted that we know this information and have access to even having an abortion that is not a back-alley way that could kill us. We are way more advanced than so many places in the world.

It’s obvious that Angelina didn’t adopt for self-promotion. When she adopted a few years ago, it was not popular to get an African kid. People were getting Asian and Russian kids at the time. It does seem that people may want to emulate her and those are her Hollywood peers. We have to remember that celebrities have more intense issues than us because their celebrity compounds their neurosis.

I think as it goes she was made an ambassador at the UN and with her work she became invested in the people she was working with in foreign countries. That seems reasonable to connect with the people and their children if they are poor and looking up to you.

Back in the 90’s, Steven Spielberg, Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman, and Michelle Pfeiffer all adopted Black (mixed) kids. Whoopi Goldberg joked about it and I think Sandra Bernhardt joked about it. Most of you were small and probably can’t remember this occurance. (I’m probably misspelling all their names…anyway)

That trend cooled off until Angelina started adopting and adopted a TRUELY BROWN-SKINNED BABY. See…all the others adopted a mixed child that was mixed with Black and had lighter skin. It was very obvious. Angelina on the other hand adopted a brown child. She was very bold and honestly she didn’t have to. Her popularity didn’t need a promotional boost. Think about it…a single, gorgeous fertile woman adopting when she didn’t have to.

I think that is what is cool with her.

But overall…you guys are on it. You hit the nail on the head on this one.

Black celebrities could adopt but Black celebrities are selfish for the most part and only copy their masters. I don’t think Black celebrities will readily adopt a Black child unless they are past childbearing years because it is a social stigma for us loving ourselves enough to choose someone that looks like us and is not a mixed-race breed of Black and something else. It’s sad but real.

I remember when Magic Johnson and his wife adopted a brown little girl and I remembered when Lionel Richie adopted Nicole. I felt it admiring the Johnsons’ dedication to being proud of their brown skin and I noticed Lionel Richie’s affinity for something other than someone that looked like him. And so on.

We have deep issues.

Thanks again for sliding in some SOCIOLOGY on your site.

was comment 138 even called for?? Why can’t you just paste the link to the article? That is very irritating.

Supernova,
You are one ignorant ass white queen. Its all over your post man. What the hell you doin trollin over here bitch?!

Dear Mr Supernova,
First off, if you aren’t 15 years old you should be cause you’re childish as hell. You don’t have the capacity to voice an opinion without resorting to insults. Now, I could stoop as low as you and sling back but you’re base, ignorant and obviously have sexual orientation issues. Are you closeted dear? Is that you’re primary issue? Now since you have memory lapses here’s your post. Notice how you make one point, then start insulting others by stating that if ANYONE disagrees with you, well they’re just dumb fucks.

It may be a trend - and a tacky one at that, but there’s no denying that these children (Zahara and Madonna’s son) WOULD HAVE DIED HAD THEY NOT BEEN TAKEN OUT OF THERE SURROUNDINGS YOU SELFISH DUMB FUCKS. While you all are sitting on your asses judging other people who are at least DOING SOMETHING you’ve failed to realize that two lives (YES BLACK BABIES) have been SAVED. WHAT THE FUCK HAVE ANY OF YOU DONE ABOUT STARVING, ILLITERATE BLACK CHILDREN (even the one’s in your own country?). Black folks who have a problem with this should SHUT THE FUCK UP and adopt a child — PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR BIG WHINEY, COMPLAINING MOUTH IS. I doubt you bitching about white people is doing anything to help black children ANYWHERE!!! Miserable, dumb, fucks.

Whoa,it is crazy to read all of this and still think my POV has anything to offer, but here goes.From what i have heard adopting in the US is really difficult,there are 3 adopted kids in my family, and my grandmother had the hardest time adopting a child that was distantly related to her! Here in france i go to immigrant language school with people from all over the world ,1 class literally every race, including 2 girls from Madagascar,an algerian man and a really wonderful young woman from Sudan.
From what she has told me, Africa needs an infrastructure to become self sufficent.
you may hate on me for saying this but America in general needs to wake up, get out of this oil war and really hold the corrupt government accountable.
that said the issue is interacial adoption… any child adopted, taken out of abject poverty is blessed.i would rather have a loving nanny than nobody,wouldn’t you
we spend like 4 billion dollars a month on this war, it saddens me to think what america’s tax money could accomplish.

For all the money they(white actors/actresses) are spending to adopt these kids and take them to wherever…they could be feeding hundreds of thousands of children dying from famine.

@ 189 Mexican in Paris

I totally agree! Hell, they could shelter, nourish, cloth, educate, etc. all of the adoptive children of the world with the revenue (Our money!) they’re wasting on that war for their (Our government, particularly repubilcans) profit.

The sad thing is… those outside of the States can clearly see, what too many of us here don’t.

I wish Madonna would adopt me.. Any way I’m happy for the children, but the downside of of this trend is people like Paris Hilton adopting an African baby to walk down the red carpet with!!

lol at #1…that is so true…for white AND black celebs.

Yea, I said it.

i wish people would watch what they call themself, you get into alot of trouble doin that stuff and lose alot of privelages.

for sure

The problem I have with Madonna is this child she adopted didn’t really need a new family. From what I heard is that his father put him in a orphanage and was coming back for him when he had everything together for the child. Now if Madonna really had a heart she would help this father so that he could provide for his son. So many kids their really needed a home cause they had no where else to go and out of all the children she pick him who has a dad who wants to take care of him. It’s good that these celebs are adopting kids but I believe it would be even better if they would just help the parents out so that they can keep family and the community together. I don’t if Angelina Jolie adopted child from Africa has a family but if the little girl does then I feel it’s not right to take her from her family, if Angelina could have help them get themselves together for the baby. Most of the kids in Africa are in orphanage because the parents couldn’t take care of them or aids. But if there is any family to keep together then people with money like that should help families instead of themselves.

BY ALL MEANS HELP AFRICANS BUT WE NEED HELP HERE ALL THIS MONEY GOING OUT OF THIS COUNTRY IS CRAZY TAKE CARE OF HOME I DONT CARE CELEBRITY OR WHAT WHITE OR BLACK WE GOT TOO MANY PROBLEMS HERE FOR ME TO KEEP SEEING ALL THIS CHARITIES ON TV TO HELP OTHERS HELP US WE BLACK PEOPLE NEED TO HELP OUR OWN BECAUSE IT DONT SEEM LIKE NOBODY ELSE CARE I GUESS WE THINK WEVE MADE IT CAUSE WE CAN SIT ANY WHERE WE WANT ON A BUS GO TO ANY SCHOOL WE WANT HELL BE EDUCATED AND WHAT NOT I KNOW IM KINDA OFF THE SUBJECT BUT HERE IS MY POINT WE GOTTA DO FOR US HERE IN AMERICA CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE A FORGOTTEN PEOPLE AND OUR PRESENCE IS WAY TO BIG FOR US NOT TO BE FELT WE GOTTA MOVE YALL IS ALL IM SAYING WE TOO GREAT OF A PEOPLE TO KEEP BEING IGNORED LIKE WE ARE MAKE A STAND TAKE THE FIRST STEP OF HELPING SOME BODY OTHER THEN YOUR SELF SOMETIMES EVEN SOMEBODY YOU DONT NECESSARYLLY CARE FOR IF THEY NEED HELP HELP THEM IT STARTS AT HOME FIRST AND WE ARE THAT HOME

well…. i dont know why but i dont like madona or angelina in no way but… its good what they re doing, no doubt ….bless those ladies for what they do and pray dat they will make it well

For the person that posted the list of adopted children; You listed Christina Crawford. She was adopted by Joan Crawford who was very abusive towards Christina. She only adopted Christina because she wanted to make her self seem down-to-earth and loving because people thought she was a bitch. Which she was. Christina eventually wrote a book about her life called Mommy Dearest which was then turned into a movie. Just because you have money and fame doesnt mean you dont have problems. Just because youre a celebrity doesnt mean you are a good parent.

I AM SICK OF OF THIS!!!!!!!!!!
If they DONT adopt us, we complain. When they do we complain.

Yeah, Blacks are not rushing to adopt African kids. Good on Madonna for doing it.

It is one less child that is suffering. Also I hate this argument that the US has needy children first. Wiat a minute, are we no longer AFRICAN American? So African is NOT important now? Africa is in a crisis. Millions of people are dying of disease, starvation adn poverty. These are OUR people. We are lucky in America. No matter how bad we have it, Africans have it worst. ENTIRE villages of people suffering of hunger and no food for days.

I don’t care who adopts, white green purple or blue - just adopt.

The more we criticize, the less African orphans will benefit. Most people adopt Asians and not black African babies.

So people stop the madness. Stop criticizing. Let these kids have a better life. Stop it now. This child was in an orphanage for a year and now he will never starve again. Do you know what it is like to starve? If this kid was not black, would people say anything? Leave it alone people. Trend or no trend, I love that finally our African babies are being brought to light. God would approve of any person who decides to give a child a better home.

I don’t see what the problem is…

i am so tired of people black mostly going on and on about some white person adopting a black child…. when the most important thing is that a child get a good home no matter what color the person is. and speaking as a black woman married to a white man with three children …… all those black people need to get off their soap box…….. its the same thing when a black woman sees a black man with a white woman ….. they go all over the top….. if a white person chooses to give love and a home to a black child then all those stupid black men and women need to get a life….. there is no color in love or when it comes down to loving someone

Does anyone know the percent of blacks that adopt white babies?

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its a good thing to help little black babies!

My name is Dynasty I’m only 17 years old right now.I’m going to be a supermodel/actress/fashion designer one day.But guess what I’m a black girl and when I’m 24 or 25 I’m going to get married to an Italian man and have four children two sons and two daughters.I’m also going to adopt from vietnam,taiwan,thailand,korea,and the phlilippines.I don’t see any thing wrong with adopting internationally especially from africa because that’s where the most children need help.these celebrities like angeliana jolie are going to be in the spotlight regardless.She wanted to adopt because she loves zahara.I’m a black girl and I want to marry an Italian man and have children with him and adopt children from all over asia what’s wrong with that.Because when I adopt my children from asia I’m going to love my children and love them as much as my birth children and they will be my children.

Cool

I jus gotta say how do u expect black celebs to adopt something already got
why would they want more, i mean that’s the least they can do send money to them and give medicine but white people like jolie and madonna just want more attention

I jus gotta say how do u expect black celebs to adopt something already got
why would they want more, i mean that’s the least they can do send money to them and give medicine but white people like jolie and madonna just want more attention