Bill I’m trying to ignore this bitch but it’s sooooooo hard. Damn! Damn! Damn! OMG!

Nas is a virgo and this shit isn’t cool to him I bet he will divorce her coming soon!

Why Kelis why?, lol. If we had seen Nas performing with his balls hanging out somewhere we would have been pissed saying he has no respect for his wife. There were people going off yesterday about Snoop playing that female close and he’s married. So although I like Kelis and her style and I think she is beautiful, I’m not feeling the ass and crotch poses. She is one of those women who can pull attention without even trying so TO ME that really wasn’t called for. But I’m sure the audience enjoyed it.

Thank you @ Bill & Meatloaf…my CL fam got my back;-)

I wouldn’t worry about love_it_or_hate_it.

People tend to hate what they want most but can’t have so they attempt to tear it down so as to feel better about themselves. In love_it_or_hate_it’s case it’s probably a feeling of sexual inadequately brought on by a number of ungratifying sexual encounters.

You see, Mika’s comfort with her sexuality scares love_it_or_hate_it because she has repressed her own sexuality to the point that she is virtually androgynous. That combined with the inevitable loneliness she feels knowing she’s going to spend the holidays alone has pretty much torn her world asunder. So it’s understandable why she’s so angry.

Mika, you shouldn’t lower yourself to love_it_or_hate_it’s level you should instead join me for lunch. I’m having tacos!!!! And by tacos I mean sex.

IF CL was a High School:

The Jocks: Bill, Something Fierce, Datdude, Dukesman

The Cheerleaders: MizzLizz, Mika

The Class Clowns: Meatloaf, Caff, Asbury, Brightfuture, BashyBoo, EZElmo, Devron

The Rebels: Jewel13, GrlnVA, Nix, Myshell, JScene, Afro Jamaicano

The Bookworms/Intellectuals: Archuletachick, ms_mac1, Foxxy380, Pittboi, Such Magnificence, Slovely, Judah

The Juniors: Quintessence

The Seniors: Oliand1, DaRed1, 777-9311

The Good Girls: Gin, Gela (when she’s not in hiding)

The Fashionistas: Tianna, im_not_her

Who am I missing?

**I have way too much time on my hands right now**

Oh yea.

The Good Girls: Add Ne’ to that!

#130 “Mika said: “…When you start eating my pussy…fucking me…and paying my bills”

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**hmmm, licks lips, buys magnums and counts money!** lol

And add Kammy to the Intellectuals

on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 @ 11:47 am

EZElmo said:
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I wouldn’t worry about love_it_or_hate_it.

People tend to hate what they want most but can’t have so they attempt to tear it down so as to feel better about themselves. In love_it_or_hate_it’s case it’s probably a feeling of sexual inadequately brought on by a number of ungratifying sexual encounters.

You see, Mika’s comfort with her sexuality scares love_it_or_hate_it because she has repressed her own sexuality to the point that she is virtually androgynous. That combined with the inevitable loneliness she feels knowing she’s going to spend the holidays alone has pretty much torn her world asunder. So it’s understandable why she’s so angry.

Mika, you shouldn’t lower yourself to love_it_or_hate_it’s level you should instead join me for lunch. I’m having tacos!!!! And by tacos I mean sex.

Ms_Mac1

Please Add EzElmo to the Intellectual List & Lunch Table with Kammy…

on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 @ 11:43 am

mika… said:
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Bill I’m trying to ignore this bitch but it’s sooooooo hard. Damn! Damn! Damn! OMG!

Bill Said:

Mika..It was ONLY a matter of time before some female would take offense with the amount of attention that you get from all the men on this website…

Ignore her for know….She’ll be gone soon….

Meatloaf, Send you boo a email
Ms_Mac1, send Angel.la a email also…

this is ridiculous..now I’m pissed

Crack kills!!! Kelis is on some serious drug(s)

ms_mac1 said:
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IF CL was a High School:

The Jocks: Bill, Something Fierce, Datdude, Dukesman

The Cheerleaders: MizzLizz, Mika

The Class Clowns: Meatloaf, Caff, Asbury, Brightfuture, BashyBoo, EZElmo, Devron

The Rebels: Jewel13, GrlnVA, Nix, Myshell, JScene, Afro Jamaicano

The Bookworms/Intellectuals: Archuletachick, ms_mac1, Foxxy380, Pittboi, Such Magnificence, Slovely, Judah

The Juniors: Quintessence

The Seniors: Oliand1, DaRed1, 777-9311

The Good Girls: Gin, Gela (when she’s not in hiding)

The Fashionistas: Tianna, im_not_her

Who am I missing?

**I have way too much time on my hands right now**

LMAO!!! That was pretty damn good.

hahaha
that is so true ms_mac
i am a rebel by nature
cannot help it
refuse (most of the time) to concur with the masses

you’re pretty good at pin pointing personalities from comments…

Mika,

Meatloaf, Fierce & Bill would like to dedicate a song to you…Thank you for being YOU.

We appreciate you, admire you, and we desire you…

Thank us for wearing those jeans…

Ginuwine - In Those Jeans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUH44oCjy1Y

ms_mac1 ~ lol you got a lot of nerve calling yourself the intellectual! I see a bunch of misfits and crackheads in this group:

The Bookworms/Intellectuals: Archuletachick, ms_mac1, Foxxy380, Pittboi, Such Magnificence, Slovely, Judah

I only see one legitimate intellectual in this crowd!

Recess is over!

lmao@meatloaf

@ ms mac
i think a few people (myself included) can also be added to the intellectuals in addition to whatever else grp ou have us in
i think there alot of intellects on the loop
the debates are usually good and on point

MIKA: IGNORANCE IS CONTAGIOUS… This shit will only get out of hand if you let it.
Sometimes people CRAVE attention, and if they can’t get the good kind, they’ll settle for the negative.
Perfect example: Kelis shaking her nasty ass outside the bedroom. (Nas is gonna whoop her ass with a signed copy of Carmens book if she don’t put that milkshake back in the cup)
What I’m trying to say is this:
No attention = internet thugs suicide

oh, Mika, I’m sorry for the rough morning - don’t pay this nut no mind. This mess is real eighth grade. she sounds like a simple ho anyway talking about “recreational sex gets you no where”.
@loveitorhateit - what’s up boo, you working?

LMAO @ #158 Meatloaf…you are a fool but I love ya!

Bill thanks for the dedication…you’re so sweet;-)

Ms Mac you do have too much time on your hands, but that was good…lol.

What time are we meeting for lunch @ EZ Elmo? LOL

EZELMO said: Mika, you shouldn’t lower yourself to love_it_or_hate_it’s level you should instead join me for lunch. I’m having tacos!!!! And by tacos I mean sex.

LOL!

You broke that down very nicely EZ.

You see, all women aren’t comfortable in their skin and some hate to see other women flaunt their sexuality. But the thing is, if you know you got it going on, why worry about what the next woman has? It’s OK not to like what you see but I guess this is the best forum for love it to blast Mika to the rest of the world. Which is silly when you think of it because none of us really “know” Mika so her character is still intact. And the fact that all these males on here are coming to Mika’s defense is even more evidence that the power of the “P” will always reign!

And how ironic that Mika would become the target on this blog at this time when the current topics at hand are Janet and her exhibitionist self and Kelis showing us her goodies. This is too much! I love CL. Where else can I get all this intellectual stimulation, food for thought and a good laugh in one bite?

That’s right Ms_Mac1 !!

I’ll cut a MF over Mika !!!

forgive me lord..
pray my strength in the lord…

I’m done with it @ Deo and Oliand1

Oliand1 said:

Sometimes people CRAVE attention, and if they can’t get the good kind, they’ll settle for the negative.
Perfect example: Kelis shaking her nasty ass outside the bedroom. (Nas is gonna whoop her ass with a signed copy of Carmens book if she don’t put that milkshake back in the cup)

LMBAO…you wrong for that one!

LOL at all ya’ll comments on my breakdown. ;0)

Of course an intellectual can be a class clown.

Of course a jock can be an intellectual.

Of course a fashionista can be a rebel.

It’s all love…My list is not all inclusive… I’m just going off of what I think are some of the DOMINANT characteristics ya’ll show.

And just to clarify so nobody takes offense, the Seniors are usually the seasoned vets that have no time for games and BS. They just tryna graduate!

Much love ya’ll.

No hard feelings. And if there is, you’ll get over it.

OMG how could I forget these two:

Jock: Networking

Rebel: Mark

Damn!!!I was going to say Mark but I did not know where to put him. The only thing I now about Mark is you better not say shit about Brandy when he is around. LOL

ahhh, all ya’ll are so funny!!!!.. I don’t want give Kelis a hard time but dang! flashing booty didn’t sell damita joe’s record - it won’t sell kelis’s. I don’t think sex sells I think “sexy” sells and it’s not the same thing. besides - I know guys like her but I thought she had a FEMALE fan base. As long as she’s been out my bro’s have been stealing her album covers but shit I was the one who bought the cd and I don’t care to see her labia.

^ Yeah, Mark IS Brandy’s stalker. LoL

GG Boo is another Senior.

It is obvious that we need to bring in a glass of water and some GROW THA HELL up pills for some of these folx that come to this site!

DAMN!

Now, back to Kelis! I agree with the posts that state that this is truly very tasteless. I like Kelis as an artist but she’s not one of my FAVS. BUT, I would’ve NEVA EVA wanted to see her in this LIGHT (i mean DARK)! Damn NAS! Put a choker leash on wifey! Can’t take some folx out NOWHERE!

i was gonna say you forgot mark the rebel
if anyone he should be class president on that one
LOL

@ #166 Meatloaf *cough* So what are you trying to say…hmmm……..?

LMBAO @ MsMac list. Yep you pretty much summed it up. But what category would love_it_or_hate_it be in? And you missed Brian, the music contributer.

@foxxy

love it or hate it
would be in peer meditation

wow…

182 post were generated based on Kelis showing us ver vagina..

325 post were generated based on a Innocuous comment/lyric By Justin Timberlake…

yet, there is only 105 comments were post on the Martin Luther King Jr, Thread…

All of those people holloring Discrimination, Racism, Segregation, & Black Power, please honor & show some RESPECT to the Prince of Peace, by going over to the MLK thread….Pay your respects…

Peace.

lov_it_or_hate_it would be in the same group as lilmamajtb and realreppinhiphop.

Hello Folks? Kelis? Remember? Yall have gone to the left making this blog about yourselves. You’re deflating my joy when I have to read about personal bullshit. Can we move on already, please?

reading the headline and the blurb will make you think it’s towards janet. but then, listening to the song - it doesn’t sound like much of a diss. it could be towards britney, since most of his songs (the angry ones) are about her.

joy at WHAT?
looking at pics of kelis ass and pu**y?

please

this is for the ladies
your boy….

Ginuwine - Pony
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzcQl9YlHg0

Thank you Laides Love!

I mean DAYUM!

Having said that… Kelis is one nasty ass biatch!

@ Foxxy380, I’m forgetting A LOT of people right now and there are some that I don’t even want to touch. But, since you insist…

The Special Ed Class: love_it_or_hate_it, lilmommajtb, lea, Dolla Belle

Shall I go on? lol

@ Ladies Love,
We do what the hell we want to here on the Loop; just like a bunch of rowdy a$$ high shoolers in the cafeteria! ;0)

on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 @ 1:09 pm

Laides Love said:
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Hello Folks? Kelis? Remember? Yall have gone to the left making this blog about yourselves. You’re deflating my joy when I have to read about personal bullshit. Can we move on already, please?

on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 @ 1:19 pm

Nix said:
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joy at WHAT?
looking at pics of kelis ass and pu**y?

please

Bill Said:
Nix is right…
How MANY more ways can we analyse & disect Kelis’s P_ssy & Ass ????
We spent all MORNing talking about this..190 post..it’s old now..
We’re bored..We ready for ANOTHER Thread, STAT !!!
NEXT !!!!

Ladies Love and Beans = Principal Skinner

damn kelis has a nice ass. if i was nas i’d be bustin that bootyhole up real goooood.

ewww@that 3rd picture. that’s just nasty looking.

LMAO @ Nix!!

@ Myshell, you know what I remember those names. I wonder if they’re the same person?

@ #185, well damn let us know how you really feel. LOL. Sorry to “deflate your joy” but maybe you should just look at the pictures instead of reading our comments. Or you can move on by yourself. Your choice.

YES, SOMETHING NEW PLEASE…

“The Special Ed Class: love_it_or_hate_it, lilmommajtb, lea, Dolla Belle”

LMAO!!! Do not forget realreppinhiphop. I swear she needs a hlemet.

@ Ladies Love,
If we are in your way by all means feel free to walk around us but how much more can we say about kelis?

Tuesday, November 14, 2006 @ 1:07 pm

Meatloaf said:
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A poem for Mika:

I was starting to sink,
but your avatar saved me!
Wearing those jeans,
all up in the gravy!

I loved your face,
but your hips even more!
If you were’nt married,
I know I could score!

One woman is jealous,
and full of hate!
Brothers be lining up,
wishing for a date!

A women like you,
Mika is rare!
All that azz and hips.
Even yo own hair!

A secure mother of 3,
That’s what you are!
A ConcreteLoop Star,
with the sexiest avatar!

Now, let see if Justin can top that $#!T! This is why I don’t mind when white folks jumping on the black bandwagon! Every black man sees poetry in black women! If God made anything better than a women, he kept it in heaven!

Bill Said:
nice poem meatloaf !!!

@ #2 DREA who wrote:

“I love kelis b/c she has a swagger with her, but she look like a man below the waist..some shit you just dont do. if you dont have an ass dont show it”

EVERYBODY’S ASS DON’T HAVE TO LOOK LIKE THEY STOLE IT FROM A DAMN DONKEY! KELIS HAS A ASS, DON’T BE JEALOUS! PERHAPS YOU CAN’T RECOGNIZE A REAL ASS CAUSE YOU’RE USE TO LOOKIN AT THE BIG FAT, STRETCH MARK, CELLULITE RIDDEN THING THAT FOLLOWS YOU AROUND ALL DAY. LMAO - PEOPLE KILL ME CALLING WHAT’S CONSIDERED “A NORMAL BUTT” NO ASS. BUT I GET IT, ABNORMAL IS IN NOW. AND WHAT ABOUT HER BELOW THE WAIST LOOKS LIKE A MAN, HELL, I DON’T SEE A DICK. I’D HATE FOR MY MAN TO LOOK LIKE HER BELOW THE WAIST…HATERS BE TRIPPIN.

kelis has a bangin body. what are some of u ppl talkin about her ass is nice.

on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 @ 1:25 pm

yola said:
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damn kelis has a nice ass. if i was nas i’d be bustin that bootyhole up real goooood.

Bill Said:
People that talk about busting a Booty hole up scare me…

Will someone PLEASE explain to me the attraction of anal sex ????

I can’t figure that out to save my life…..

nevermind…I don’t WANT to know the attraction…

The Holy Spirit just told me that some things are NOT for me, and he doesn’t WANT me to understand everything…

Thank you Lord…

#181 foxxy380 ~ you can pop yo collar!

#168 oliand1 ~ Kelis must think her nasty azz does help her sells! And yes, sex does sell in this business! I would rather go to a concert to hear and see a sexy woman like Toni or Kelis sing…than to go and listen and watch Patti or Angie! I would rather see Beyonce’ over Alishia! But, I would not rather see Rihanna over Fantasia, even though Ri is clearly the looker!

She and Nas can’t stay together for long, because he has no control over her! She’s bigger than he can even imagine! If he stays with her, he can never respect her! Their marriage won’t last past 2007!

I’ve BEEN Real Busy and I have to get back
How IS Eveybody Doing (Good Looking out @bill)

@mika… How’s My Baby doing (Your Just So Sexxy!!!)
Oh, and far as the “Eating that Sweet Ass Pussy” and “Fucking YOU Real Good”… Let’s not WASTE those Wonderful Thoughts of US on such trivial things as this idiot who hates for the sake of Hating!!!
Lets just keep that between US My Love

And FUCK the Haters Baby, They just coming one step closer to getting the Beatdown of Their Life!!!

And it’s Oficial… Kelis IS CRAZY !!!!!

OHHHHHHH MEATLOAF KNOW ABOUT MAGNUMS?

Hey Fierce…I’m doing good…better now that you’re here

lmbao @ special ed class members… where is dolla belle?

lol @ bill

No I am serious when I say this. When people say thngs like “busting that booty hole” SCARES ME TOO!

@199 you aint even on my level love I dont cyber beef baby girl sorry..Peace

on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 @ 2:04 pm

Ne’ said:
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lmbao @ special ed class members… where is dolla belle?

lol @ bill

No I am serious when I say this. When people say thngs like “busting that booty hole” SCARES ME TOO!

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Bill Said:

For the LIFE of me, Ne’, I just can’t figure out why any Man would DESIRE to stick his Penis up someones Asshole…….

Sometimes when I go to the Supermarket, I’ll see some fool trying to walk through the EXIT door….

Occasionaly, I see another fool driving the wrong way down a one way street..

I guess some people are just intent on doing dumb things….

Why would a WOMAN let a man stick his dick up her ass ??
I just don’t get it….

Ewwww! come on Kelis, MRS JONES-get some class about yourself!

EWWWWWWWW TO EACH HIS OWN.
I personally think it the most disgusting thing EVER!

@207 DREA

I don’t cyber beef either, but your hating was evident so i commented on it. And ya damn skippy you and i aren’t on the same level. Stop hating, you feel better about yourself. Peace be onto you.

on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 @ 2:18 pm

bill said:
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on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 @ 1:49 pm

DEO said:
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@Bill. I don’t know if I think Barack should run for president next term - I don’t think america is ready for him they’ll eff around and have another republican in there just to avoid voting for the black guy. maybe 2016, we’ll see where the world is then. Still though - I’m wit him. I first learned about him when he spoke at the dem. nat. covention in support of Kerry. A lot of young people still don’t know about this brother but he has some important things to say

Bill Said:

I actually would like to see Hiliary Rodham Clinton run for President (Democratic Nomination) in 2008

I would like to see Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. be our canidate for VICE PRESIDENT in 2008, thus preparing him for Presidency in 2012 or 2016 !!!

Rudy Guliani (the former NYC Mayor) will probably get the Republican Nomination in 2008

@211 come on over to the MLK post and get a history lesson and stop acting childish.I can say what I want when I want so get over it

#203 Something Fierce lol ~ I hate to be the one to break it to you, but since you’ve been gone, Mika and I have some exciting new to share with you and the rest of the loopers! I don’t want you to waste all yo magical words!

Mika, you want to give him the info on our new relationship? I guess its like they say, “when you snooze…!”

lol
@ Bill
I concur

my butthole says NO ENTRY
No Hay Entrada
dead end
wrong way

ok you guys get the point

@ Bill and Deo
he can run
but we know he wont win

it will be like when Jesse ran
and we all had our buttons saying (well i did anyway)
run jesse run

LOL @ Meatloaf!

i will do something with it

@213 DREA

I agree, and I can say what i want too,so there shouldn’t have been a problem. And speaking of childish, by reading your first post, you’re the poster child for that. Yep, while you’re over on that site you’re on now, please learn something. Peace be onto you again. If you post back, i’ll have to use holy water.

Nix said:
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@ Bill and Deo
he can run
but we know he wont win

it will be like when Jesse ran
and we all had our buttons saying (well i did anyway)
run jesse run

Bill Said:

The Country LOVE Hilliary Clinton and we’re ready for a Woman President..
Quite Frankly, I never understood why we haven’t ever had a woman president before……

Woman outnumber men 5 to 1…

Why Can’t woman organzie themselves to get another woman elected to the Presidency ?????…
I NEVER could figure that one out….Women outnumber men..What the problem Ladies ???

Anyways, Hilary Rodham Clinto SHOULD be our next President…We can SNEAK Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. in to be our canidate for VICE PRESIDENT in 2008, thus preparing him for Presidency in 2012 or 2016 !!!

wow how’d we start talking bout buttholes and things again?…

@bill… Maybe you can explain this to our boy @meatloaf About My Game being TIGHT !!!
We have no such worries

@mika… I KNOW this is going to be hard for you Baby because You’re Just So Dman Sexxy BUT try and Lower the Sex Appeal just a little.. O.K. My Sweetness Thank You

Bill asked: “…Why Can’t woman organzie themselves to get another woman elected to the Presidency ?????…
I NEVER could figure that one out….Women outnumber men..What the problem Ladies ???”

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The Bible encourges women not to seek positions of authority over men! Most women enjoy the covering! Her desire will always be unto him! Most women know and love their posiition relative to men! Man is the stronger vessel and with the advent of the womens movement, there stress rate and death rate increased!

I personally think that Kelis should run for something with that azz! hehe!

developing…

Poll: Obama now trails only Clinton on ‘08 list
POSTED: 8:38 a.m. EST, November 2, 2006
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WASHINGTON (CNN) — Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois, who has recently said he is considering a bid for his party’s presidential nomination, now trails only Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton on list of potential Democratic candidates in 2008, according to a new CNN poll released Wednesday.

On the Republican side, Sen. John McCain of Arizona is running neck and neck with former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani among Republicans, the poll found.

Obama gets support from 17 percent of registered Democrats, vaulting him into second place, ahead of former Vice President Al Gore, Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina and Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts, according to the poll. (How Dems, GOPs rate)

On October 22, Sen. Barack Obama said that he may run for president in 2008, despite previous assertions that he would complete his current six-year senatorial term, which ends in 2011. (Full story)

“I would say I am still at the point where I have not made a decision to pursue higher office, but it is true that I have thought about it over the last several months,” the 45-year-old Democratic senator from Illinois told NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

In January, Obama told NBC that he would not run for president or vice president in 2008.

Asked by NBC’s Tim Russert about his earlier stance, Obama said, “That was how I was thinking at that time.”

“I don’t want to be coy about this, given the responses that I’ve been getting over the last several months,” he said. “I have thought about the possibility, but I have not thought about it with the seriousness and depth that I think is required.”

Clinton’s share of the Democratic voters has fallen from 38 percent in September to 28 percent — still enough to make her the front-runner. (Read the complete poll results — PDF)

Obama appears to be drawing his support mostly from Clinton and Gore, who has fallen from 19 percent in September to 13 percent.

The poll was carried out before Kerry’s “botched” jab at President Bush that came out as a being a slap at U.S. troops in Iraq. Kerry, was at the bottom of the first tier of Democratic candidates, with 12 percent. (Watch the falling stars of Kerry and Sen. George Allen — 1:53

On Monday, Kerry, opening a speech to students in California with a series of jokes aimed at Bush, said, “You know education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.”

On Wednesday afternoon, Kerry said in a statement he regretted that his words were “misinterpreted to wrongly imply anything negative about those in uniform.” (Full story)

On Tuesday, after Republicans pounced on the comment as disrespectful of the nation’s military, a Kerry aide said the senator had “mangled” what was intended to be a criticism of President Bush.

Sen. Evan Bayh of Indiana, Sen. Joseph Biden of Delaware, Sen. Russ Feingold of Wisconsin, New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson and Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack are all in the low single digits.

McCain, Giuliani in virtual tie
On the Republican side, there is a virtual tie for first place, with 29 percent of registered GOPers expressing preference for Giuliani and 27 percent opting for McCain.

McCain has picked up 6 points of support since September, with Giuliani holding steady.

Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich of Georgia is the only other Republican to make it into double digits, with 12 percent.

Sen. George Allen of Virginia, who is embroiled in a tough re-election fight, was at 7 percent last month, but pulls just 2 percent now.

The telephone poll of 873 registered voters — 472 people who identified themselves as Democrats or leaning Democrat and 401 who identified themselves as Republican or leaning Republican — was carried out last Friday through Sunday for CNN by Opinion Research Corp.

Questions asked of Democrats have a sampling error of plus or minus 4.5 points; those asked of Republicans have a sampling error of plus or minus 5 points.

@Meatloaf– i don’t think men are the “stronger vessel” as u put it, we are both strong in our own ways.
also there r some christians who think christians have no place in government, period(getting caught upin the affirs of this world)…. it just depends on who u ask.

i personally wouldn’t see a problem with a female president as long as she could do the job right.