KRAMER APOLOGIZES ON THE LATE SHOW
Tuesday, November 21, 2006
Michael Richards aka Kramer talked with David Letterman (via satellite) yesterday to try and clean up his now fucked up image. Of course he delivered a weak-ass apology and talked about how he lost his temper or some shit. Sorry homie, your true colors came out that night.
And why is that audience laughing so much? This is far from funny.








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151.
michelle
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
@ 143 Oh get OVER tha N-word, black folks jus took a word, stripped it of its exclusively-annihilative-dark power (i.e. now, SOME form of tha word actually means tha bombest stuff in da world, u KNOW black folks DEFINE & Rule modern [pop] culture on dis Whole entire planet, which is jus so amazin) and took tha word FROM exclusive white use 2 now its exclusive BLACK use, and THATS amazin 2
Its not da n-word 4 Kramer, that much (well…) : ITS da LYNCHIN part, HOW in HELL do sumbodi even think 2 say dat! jus cuz sumbodi told him he wusnt funni enuf? HOW wud it be if u go 2 a jewish club & be like “jew jew jew if it wus da old days yall would be in a gas chamber” THAT is EVIL! so evil, u cud forgive da n-word more, but, da lynchin thing, Omg theres nuthin 2 say
jus, nuthin
152.
Mike
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
143. Shaft said:
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I cant stand..reading our black people…commenting on this..and STILL using the N word.
Its ike…you see what it STILL means today..yet they continue to use the word thinking it “empowers” them or something.
So F*cking stupid.
STOP USING THE WORD!
AND @121
i feel ya..at my school ive heard a few people use the word..and they’re all hispanic…i feel ashamed that ive only lightly asked them to watch it..and havent gone off the deep end..cause thats the only way people understand.
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I agree with you but I also agree with comment 133…They have to understand the meaning of the word. I feel nothing when a black person says it (b/c they mean no harm by it, we use it as terms of endearment) but when a white person says it (in that way) gives me ghostbumps. Some ppl are just plain ignorant and this is proof, they say “blacks act uncivilized and out-of-control” look at this guy! Let that be a black up there actin like that—it would be a state of emergency, for the simple fact, YT ppl don’t care!!! And I’ve witness this.
153.
Ericka
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
the FOOL said sorry because it was the political correct thing to do we all know when his ass got off stage he was like…………and them niggers still laughing what a bunch of dumb niggers. Honestly how can you be mad at a white person calling you what you call yourselves you think because you take off the er it makes it better? Disrespect yourselves and others will too
154.
Mike
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
But I love black ppl, we can take something negative and turn it into positive—I love our culture, the way we act, dress, the whole sha-bang! We have come a mighty long way indeed, we grow, we learn, we love. That is apart of life in fact. It’s something different when you take a word out of its context—and clearly that is what he did. Point blank. Rascist.
155.
Slovely
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
There’s no excuse in the world for this man to point out blacks in particular and mention lyching and calling them the N word. But then again there’s not excuse for us to use that work niether. The man’s career is through. Did you read a white man’s response
” He not leaving is he?”
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QgmCBKPHnSY
156.
Shocker
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
Check this website!! (scroll down the page a little)
Its amazing how people always try to find a way to flip things
http://digg.com/celebrity...ist_Tirade_Caught_On_Tape
157.
Mike
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
153. Ericka said:
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the FOOL said sorry because it was the political correct thing to do we all know when his ass got off stage he was like…………and them niggers still laughing what a bunch of dumb niggers. Honestly how can you be mad at a white person calling you what you call yourselves you think because you take off the er it makes it better? Disrespect yourselves and others will too
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How are we disrespecting our selves?
People. Put down the N***A word, and lets analyze what he said. He also used the word “lynching” in the same sentence as N***A!
lynching - to put to death by hanging, by mob action & without legal authority.
HIS CAREER NEEDS TO END.
158.
msblacknasty1
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
how can you apologize for something you meant to say that mofo is scurred now cause ery black person he sees is gonna scare the shit out of him hes gonna wonder if dey knew wat he sed lololololol his conscous is gonna bother him. white trash oh his boys gave him high five for being brave but now hes standing all alone now lolololololol i wud luv to run into his ass loloolololool oh and #143 sit yo black ass down its ok for us to say it and joke but this mofo was pissed off and sed it BIG DIFFRENCE
159.
bill
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
On Tuesday, November 21, 2006 @ 1:27 pm
Malik said:
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@ Bill:
You are right…Caucasians only “tolerate” us (African Americans) b/c well, its the right thing to do. In reality, what this Richards person is saying is what they all say when we are not around. The question is are we going to put up with this? I’ve called the networks and voiced my opinion, but we all need to make sure this doesn’t just go away.
Bill Said:
I think that the Black Race should BOYCOTT all NON Black Products & Content on BLACK FRDAY, November 24, 2006!!!
The way to protest in 2006 is to have a ECONOMIC BOYCOTT of Products & CONTENT produced by NON BLACKS.
ONE of Our Black Leader(s) (Barack Obama, Floyd Flake, Jesse Jackson Jr) should make an announcement that in light of the Racist Statement made By Michael Richards, and the Racist Overtones that ABC Network is making by looking to produce a TV Show with a “Hip Hop Family” (what a horrible stereotype), that the Black Race has chosen BLACK FRIDAY, November 24,2006
To BOYCOTT Non Black Businesses !!
Blacks should decide to take ONE DAY and NOT purchase products from non blacks !
We can march & protest until we’re blue in the face…
Marching & Protesting doesn’t faze non blacks…They are laughing beyond our backs !!
The only TRUE way to protest and make a DENT is to have an ECONOMIC BOYCOTT of any product made by NON BLACKS !!!
Peace
160.
Jaye
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
I think we all agree that he meant what he said and FYI he is banned fron that comedy club.
161.
hdizzle
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
Black people kill me sometimes, The only reason the people in this thread are even bringing up the fact that black people use the N word in a non derogatorry fashion is becuase HEY ITS KRAMMER RIGHT. Every body loves krammer everybody loves that show right?
If your black and cant see the difference between what Richards did that night , go to the toy store got to the Board game Isle and find a fucking clue.
Do you idiots in this thread not realize that that is the same exact argument that white people are using in order to lessen the sting of his verbal attacks. I’m telling you what I know I aint telling you what I heard.
148 TOBEQUITEHONEST , you need to come out and say it, You are saying that you dont think what Krammer did was that bad , BE REAL, KEEP IT REAL BE REAL ABOUT YOUR SHIT, YOU DONT FEEL LIKE HE SHOULD BE CONDEMMED FOR HOW HE WENT OF ON RANDOM PEOPLE LIKE THAT. KEEP IT REAL SCINCE YOUR IN HERE ON WHITE PEOPLES BEHALF AND NOT USING YOUR REAL NAME KEEP IT REAL, YOU LIKE KRAMMER SO MUCH YOU DONT THINK HE SHOULD BE HELD ACOUNTABLE FOR WHAT HE SAID , BECAUSE FOR ONE HE WAS NOT DRUNK AND 2 ALL THE AUDIENCE MEMBERS DID WAS TELL HIM HE WASNT FUNNY AND DECIDED TO TALK DURING HIS SET.
SO BE REAL ADMIT YOUR SHIT.
162.
JillyBean819
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
Meatloaf:
I said it will blow over in two days b/c to everyone except for blacks don’t give a shit when something like this is said about us.
163.
IMPORTANT!!
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
Damn they actually support this dude on that site… We are posting on the wrong site, its 95% black in here so we’re basically beating a dead horse. We need to get on white forums like the link below and get at them on there, thats the only way we can really get our point across.
Peace
http://digg.com/celebrity...ist_Tirade_Caught_On_Tape
164.
E$
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
fvck him, when will America apologize?
165.
eriq
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
craka ass craka
166.
T-Man
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
http://digg.com/celebrity...ist_Tirade_Caught_On_Tape
167.
zudoir
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
White folks need to be “schooled.”
The Original Biblical Jews Were a
Black African People
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The original Jews in Africa 2000 years ago were a Black African people as an ethnic group. (Massey: Egypt Light of the Word p501) Many of them still are Black, in northenrn Africa such as the Falasha Jews of Ethiopia. A New York Times editorial (3/2/84) described them as “a lost tribe that has kept it identiy for more than 2,000 years in a remote corner of Africa.” Abraham, ancestor of the Hebrews, was from Chaldea; the ancient Chaldeans were Black. In fact, Africa takes it name from Ophren, a son of Abraham by his wife, Keturah (Whiston: The Life and Works of Flavius Josephus p50) Like Jesus, Mary and Joseph, the lineage of Ethiopian Emperor, Haile Selassie also goes back to Judah -through Solomon/Queen of Sheba and King David.
Roman historian Tacitus wrote that many of his time believed that the Jews “were a race of Ethiopian origion.” The Bible classifies the Ethiopians & Jews together, “Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, O children of Israel? saith the Lord.” (Amos 9:7) Black Paul is mistaken for an “Egyptian” and declares himself to be a “Jew.” (Acts 21:37-39, 22: 2,3) That the Jews got their language, religion & culture from the Canaanites & Sumerians through Babylon, is well documented by historians. The original ancient Hebrew alphabet was identical to that of the Phoenicians. “Semitic languages” are really dialectical variants of African languages.
The word Semite is from semi which means half. Half what? Half BLACK! (mulatto!) Semite refers to the descendants of Shem, one of Noah’s sons. The word originates from the Latin prefix semi which means half. “half Black and half white… therefore Black (since Black is genetically dominant)” points out Dr. Cress Welsing. Historian Cheikh Anta Diop also points out that the “Semitic” arises in the 4th millennia B.C. from crossbreeding between Black inhabitants of the holy land and white northern invaders. While many Semites (such as Jews & gypsies) have mixed so much with whites that they’ve forgotten or deny their African roots, racism (white supremacy) will never let them forget this no matter how light-skinned they become, as proved by Hitler, who mandated their destruction because they were classified by whites as “non-white” peple originating in Africa. The very word gypsy means “out of Egypt.”
168.
BJ
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
Notice how he said AFRO-American.. he still trying to be funny… we are African-American.. I mean, I know he is just a comic, and probably does not have much education… but damn….
I truly think as soon as African-Americans start making money the older generation of White-American hate it.. They can’t stand to see us have way more than them…
They aren’t use to it, they are from the old-school.
So Kramers career has not been going well.. he turns on the TV one night.. maybe he turns to MTV Cribs… he sees LIl’ Jon with a pimp cup in his mansion… so later Kramer has a show at the Laugh Factory all of this anger inside of him.. he just can’t take it anymore.. He screams out n*****! Thats how I see it:)
169.
FreakeyStyley1
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
The word has the same power no matter WHO says it. That’s why everybody’s up in arms here.
We say that it’s ok to use it amongst ourselves, right?
The ok. Scenario:
Would you call another black person nigga in the office around your white colleagues (we’re talking a professional or even an academic environment0?
Doubtful, because you’d look like a g_ddamn ignant fool.
Do you greet your mother as “What’s up my Mother/Nigga”?
Do you call yout children my l’il niggas?
Maybe you do. But I think some would agree it has a negative conotation when used in those respects.
I respect everybody’s opinions and thoughts here today, for this is the dialogue we should be having with kids, famz, friends, etc.
I just think there is a major contradiction within our people wherein we think we are desensitizing the word. As I said in an earlier post, if the word has been desensitized, then it wouldn’t matter WHO said it. Black, white, Asian, Hispanic or otherwise. One wouldn’t get so upset. Even if it’s was said with malice. All in all, I think this issue is more complex I think and it mos def requires a lot more open dialogue such as what’s being discussed in this forum.
And I, for one am proud of us all for demonstrating the intelligence this subject deserves.
Just my opinion
170.
BabyDoc
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
Maybe some of you buffons will think about stop using the Nigger word as a middle name..GEESH… I don’t care how you think you using it. When you hear it come out another mouth, you get all twisted. Then stop exploiting the use of it. Otherwise, STFU
171.
FreakeyStyley1
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
Sorry for all the typos.
172.
hdizzle
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
170 shut the fuck up you fuckin idiot how are comparing this with that retard.
173.
truth_hurts
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
Look at what Mel Gibson had to go through when he supposedly made those anti-Semitic remarks. Mind you, we did not even hear Mel’s remarks, it was just what was reported by the arresting cops. Secondly, Mel was drunk. And he still went through the grinder for his rants. Now, Kramer was not drunk, he was sober and we all witnessed. Death to Kramer!!
174.
bill
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
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on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 @ 2:41 pm
JillyBean819 said:
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Meatloaf:
I said it will blow over in two days b/c to everyone except for blacks don’t give a shit when something like this is said about us.
Bill Said:
Exactly !!!!
cosign…..
175.
michelle
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
@ 154 Yeah homi dey got a swagger :-] Even when society & stuff wus unthinkable, dey got swagger
n even if da world dont admit it a lot, da whoole world is in luv wit it (the last royal danish wedding was half orchestra n half hiphop to perform 4 da queen & 4 da ceremony, they even mixd the 2 of em together for the couple’s official royal wedding song composition, honest 4 real! da queen & all european royalty ol folks were there & everything, i wus like, well, wow damn jus look!)
it IS swagger, sumtimes its kinda-wrong-a-lil-bit swagger but Lol still amazin 2 see it sumtimes, Well, yeah jus sayin, about jus makin sumthing good out of sumthin awful dass wut they do, a lot
Oh well
176.
pearlprincess
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
nice try kramer, it was clear that u meant those words you said, and this is how u try to clear your name…not buying it. during APARTHEID in South Africa, the word KAFER (sorry for even writing it) was used to refere to the black man, exactly like the N* word but South Africans have burried that word along with apartheid and NO ONE uses it black or white because they understand their history and the horrible history of the word…THAT DUDE SHOULD NOT HAVE USED IT, AND HE KNOWS IT…AND NO RAPPER SHOULD BE SINGING ABOUT IT EITHER.
177.
zudoir
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
Amen, 1710.
178.
hdizzle
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
Not to go there but how many people think white people would be more upset and less qick to forgive Richards if he had went on a tirade against some gay audience members who were talking through his performace, calling them evry gay name in the book.
179.
Malik
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
Bill Said:
I think that the Black Race should BOYCOTT all NON Black Products & Content on BLACK FRDAY, November 24, 2006!!!
The way to protest in 2006 is to have a ECONOMIC BOYCOTT of Products & CONTENT produced by NON BLACKS.
ONE of Our Black Leader(s) (Barack Obama, Floyd Flake, Jesse Jackson Jr) should make an announcement that in light of the Racist Statement made By Michael Richards, and the Racist Overtones that ABC Network is making by looking to produce a TV Show with a “Hip Hop Family” (what a horrible stereotype), that the Black Race has chosen BLACK FRIDAY, November 24,2006
To BOYCOTT Non Black Businesses !!
Blacks should decide to take ONE DAY and NOT purchase products from non blacks !
We can march & protest until we’re blue in the face…
Marching & Protesting doesn’t faze non blacks…They are laughing beyond our backs !!
The only TRUE way to protest and make a DENT is to have an ECONOMIC BOYCOTT of any product made by NON BLACKS !!!
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Malik said:
Bill this sounds great, I will do what I can here in L.A. but can we get everyone on board?
180.
FYI MY ASS...
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
160. Jaye said:
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I think we all agree that he meant what he said and FYI he is banned fron that comedy club.
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That ain’t good enough, we need to have that Comedy Club shut DOWN so they will never make this mistake again!!! The owners did nothing when he was up there bashing those young black men…
181.
Smiley
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
I dont think that fact that he said nigger so many times bothered me as much as when he was talking about hanging black people and sticking a fork in them.
182.
foxxy380
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
Apology? Afro-Americans? Not racist? PLEASE!!! Kramer can keep that wack a$$ apology because whatever is in your heart, the mouth will speak.
183.
Smiley
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
It is crazy though this all happened around the release date for the new seinfeld dvd…that’s why jerry was on the letterman show.
richards was acting like he was upset because letterman made a couple of jokes about him. he deserves every bit of it.
184.
Jqueen
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
To the Michelles, MsBlackNasty, and others who still think using ‘Nigga’ is okay: You’re still looking at it as something ‘positive’ that Black America turned around. There is NOTHING positive about the term or lynching. Please stop looking at this literally, and look at the principle behind it all.
You may use and think of it as positive, but it just needs to be banned period, so it’s not even an issue. Folks died for the rights and freedoms you enjoy today, so that you would not to be called that name at the hands of some ignorant person. Yet, what did they die for, b/c you’re still being called that name at the hands of an ignorant person that happens to look like you, but doesn’t even think about what they’re reinforcing from generation to generation.
Words are powerful. Words create things. How are we supposed to change when we’re still speaking the same words generation after generation?
Bill, we don’t need a ‘Black leader’ to get on TV and tell everybody we’re boycotting certain stores on Black Friday. We should send an email, like we do everything else, and just do it. However, this only highlights what I’m saying about positioning ourselves.
This would be 100% effective if Black America owned a Wal-Mart, shopping malls, and etc. However, all is not lost. There are still plenty of entrepreneurs out there who may not be on a national scale, but who have good products.
Ideas: Carol’s Daughter, Black Art, gift baskets, shop on your friend’s online malls if they have them, gift cards to black spas, and etc.
If you have gift ideas, or know of excellent black-owned businesses that would have great gift ideas for the holiday season, please list them on this thread…
185.
FYI MY ASS...
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
FreakeyStyley1 said:
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The word has the same power no matter WHO says it. That’s why everybody’s up in arms here.
We say that it’s ok to use it amongst ourselves, right?
The ok. Scenario:
Would you call another black person nigga in the office around your white colleagues (we’re talking a professional or even an academic environment0?
Doubtful, because you’d look like a g_ddamn ignant fool.
Do you greet your mother as “What’s up my Mother/Nigga”?
Do you call yout children my l’il niggas?
Maybe you do. But I think some would agree it has a negative conotation when used in those respects.
I respect everybody’s opinions and thoughts here today, for this is the dialogue we should be having with kids, famz, friends, etc.
I just think there is a major contradiction within our people wherein we think we are desensitizing the word. As I said in an earlier post, if the word has been desensitized, then it wouldn’t matter WHO said it. Black, white, Asian, Hispanic or otherwise. One wouldn’t get so upset. Even if it’s was said with malice. All in all, I think this issue is more complex I think and it mos def requires a lot more open dialogue such as what’s being discussed in this forum.
And I, for one am proud of us all for demonstrating the intelligence this subject deserves.
Just my opinion
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Ahhh…duh b/c that is the work place!! There is a time for chillin wit yo niggahs and a time to do ya job…No one plays around in that way in a professional envirnment..you sound dumb as hell wit that comment you made…
186.
FYI MY ASS...
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
FreakeyStyley1 I take it back you don’t sound dumb for the comment you made you sound YT as hell….get the fuck outta here wit that shit!!
187.
bill
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 @ 3:09 pm
hdizzle said:
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Not to go there but how many people think white people would be more upset and less qick to forgive Richards if he had went on a tirade against some gay audience members who were talking through his performace, calling them evry gay name in the book.
Bill Said:
Gays would LOSE THEIR FRIGGIN MINDS, If Kramer called them F—-.
Gays are VERY organized.
They would simply close that comedy club DOWN, and boycott Kramer & Jerry Seinfield
188.
foxxy380
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
Yesterday post:
I get so sick and tired of people saying well blacks use the word nigga so why is it a problem when whites use it. To me nigga is a term of endearment. Nigger is not. So when blacks use the word we are using it for endearment. Do you think when white people use it they are using it for endearment? Hell no! They use it to offend and degrade us.
If a brother calls his sister a name (stupid, b!tch etc) does it give someone outstide the family a right to call his sister that same name just b/c he heard the brother call her a name. NO! The brother will probably wanna kick that person a$$ for calling his sister that name. Well we are the same way and even though some may feel it is wrong for black people to even use it…that’s cool. I think of my black males as brothers and my black females as sisters and I will not approve of ANYONE who is outside our family calling us names.
189.
J. Lewis
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
He’s in a lose-lose situation. He dug a hole too deep and aint no getting out. Even if he went on Oprah or any show that is viewed by mainly by black ppl ya’ll still won’t forgive him. He can cry a river and he won’t be forgiven. So if he didn’t apologize he loses, he apologized and he lost.
Yeah I think Jerry was like man you messing the the sales man. U messing with my paper. Cause even tho Seinfeild was the star the rest of the cast was just as big as he was. They just didn’t see as much money or post fame. I thought all the seasons were out anyways.
They quick to drop white sitcoms on DVD’s. The last season of ‘Friends’ was out like the next day…LOL. But they just about to come out with the first season of ‘Martin’. Wassup with that?
190.
Shaft
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
@151
Get over YOURself. just because you and your people throw around the word for some made up, excuse of…annihilating its “dark power”…um….you think the reaction to what he said…is the reaction of a word that is an “exclusively” black word?
Exclusive means complete or undivided. Just because SOME black people decide to use “nigga” as a term of endearment, doesnt mean white people do to. It still means to them, what it meant 50-100-200 years ago.
and “pop culture” the history of that word is much deeper than just “pop culture”..so “pop culture” says the word is alright…and that meanst it’s ok???
hell no.
191.
FYI MY ASS...
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
bill said:
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on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 @ 3:09 pm
hdizzle said:
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Not to go there but how many people think white people would be more upset and less qick to forgive Richards if he had went on a tirade against some gay audience members who were talking through his performace, calling them evry gay name in the book.
Bill Said:
Gays would LOSE THEIR FRIGGIN MINDS, If Kramer called them F—-.
Gays are VERY organized.
They would simply close that comedy club DOWN, and boycott Kramer & Jerry Seinfield
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HEEEELLLL yeah which is what we should be doing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That sad.
192.
MissChoklate2006
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
We all know he apologized only because he had too. To salvage his worthless career. Its a trip to see a Jew saying these things as well. The point to the matter is that Jews run Hollywood. If anyone said anything anti-semitic they would have lost their career. He just said what a lot of white folks feel today. I listened to talk radio this morning and I mean you should have heard all the comments about this (mostly from white people) they were saying well if black can use the word why cant I. I mean how many times can a black comedian or person explain to you why. I work with all white people and trust me half of them dont know a black actress from me walking down the street..why? Because they could care less. They go home to thier lives and live in their lilly white worlds. I live in a state where the majority of people are white. the cops are racist and the city is to an extent. I live in a state where their is acceptance of interracial couples but the truth to the matter is the white women still think they got one up on us black females. I see this crap everyday. Like most of the people on the blogs said he shouldnt have said such a thing in public. Which goes to show you that alot of racist say these things and embed it in their minds everyday. Shocking, I think not. Tired of it would be the word I would use.
193.
FYI MY ASS...
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
foxxy380 said:
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Yesterday post:
I get so sick and tired of people saying well blacks use the word nigga so why is it a problem when whites use it. To me nigga is a term of endearment. Nigger is not. So when blacks use the word we are using it for endearment. Do you think when white people use it they are using it for endearment? Hell no! They use it to offend and degrade us.
If a brother calls his sister a name (stupid, b!tch etc) does it give someone outstide the family a right to call his sister that same name just b/c he heard the brother call her a name. NO! The brother will probably wanna kick that person a$$ for calling his sister that name. Well we are the same way and even though some may feel it is wrong for black people to even use it…that’s cool. I think of my black males as brothers and my black females as sisters and I will not approve of ANYONE who is outside our family calling us names.
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Foxxy just hit the nail on the head!!! That’s to ne of you ppl saying using the word for endearment is wrong…everyone has called their brother or sister a name and would beat somebody ass for callin out their name like that, same with the N’ word…it is like sayin “my brutha”=”my niggah” it is terms of endearment…it’ll be different if someone used “nigger” is a way not relevant to any of what I just mention…
194.
bill
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 @ 3:19 pm
Jqueen said:
Bill, we don’t need a ‘Black leader’ to get on TV and tell everybody we’re boycotting certain stores on Black Friday. We should send an email, like we do everything else, and just do it. However, this only highlights what I’m saying about positioning ourselves.
Malik said:
Bill this sounds great, I will do what I can here in L.A. but can we get everyone on board?
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Bill Said:
Well..What I doing right now is preparing a mass email that I’m going to send to Floyd Flake as well as members of my Fraternity (Kappa Alpha Psi) announcing a Economic Boycott that I would like take place on Black Friday, November 24, 2006 !
195.
bill
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 @ 3:30 pm
J. Lewis said:
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He’s in a lose-lose situation. He dug a hole too deep and aint no getting out. Even if he went on Oprah or any show that is viewed by mainly by black ppl ya’ll still won’t forgive him. He can cry a river and he won’t be forgiven. So if he didn’t apologize he loses, he apologized and he lost.
Yeah I think Jerry was like man you messing the the sales man. U messing with my paper. Cause even tho Seinfeild was the star the rest of the cast was just as big as he was. They just didn’t see as much money or post fame. I thought all the seasons were out anyways.
They quick to drop white sitcoms on DVD’s. The last season of ‘Friends’ was out like the next day…LOL. But they just about to come out with the first season of ‘Martin’. Wassup with that?
Bill Said:
I HONESTLY don’t think this episode is going to affect Michael Richard’s Paper (earning power) or Jerry Seinfeld…
Michael Richard simply said what White America feels deep down in their soul…..
Michael Richards just had the NERVE to say it out loud!!!
White People are NOT scarred of us anymore…
We are NO LONGER a threat to them…
They feel REAL comfortable calling us NIGGER….Why do they do it. Because they CAN !!
And they KNOW we won’t do a damm thing about it, except forgive them and move on…..
White people got us figured out…..
They use religion to neuter us. While we’re busy quoting scripture, singing, hooping and hollering in church, Whites own everything, even our TV station (BET)
Y’all remember back in the 70’s Elijah Muhammad spoke about a “Race War” (I think Minister Louis Farrakhan spoke about a race war also).
I truly believe in my heart, that this incident is just the tip of the ice Berge….
Peace
196.
Gen
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
Ain’t MR a Freemasonist? (I think he was only jewish on Seinfeld). And I love how not many ppl mention that the Black dudes started calling him racists terms as well (yea yea, he said it first). People need to learn you can’t fight racism with racism.
197.
BashyBoo
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
Queshia said:
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Even though my hubby said someone should have beat the breaks off his ass, I disagree because i have found myself saying racist things toward other races and one of my best friends is white. It comes to show that when it all boils down people have a tendency to head back to their roots I guess we all have some ignorance in us. He was just dumb enough to let his ignorance get the best of him in public.
SUSTAINED! I SO AGREE
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augusta
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
Had this been an individual making anti-semetic remarks towards michael richards, there career in hollywood would be in serious jepardy, Mel Gibson can attest to that!
199.
sweet_bliss
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
I dont know why everyone is so angry.Atleast he was honest about it.The thing that makes me mad is that he’s aplogizing for it. Be a man about it and stand by what you say. Blacks need to learn to let shit go..Fuck him he’s not changing anything in my daily lifestyle im still brathing,eating,getting educated etc.. racisim still exsist I think we all know that but what you gonna do about it????
200.
J. Lewis
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
I ask all my black ppl(it won’t happen in my lifetime) to stop using the word ‘nigga’. I know it’s hard cause I use it myself but as I get older and understand the true meaning and where it came from I just see it as wrong. By the age 25 I wanna have it out of my vocab but it won’t be easy cause I been saying it for the longest only trying to fit in and not knowing where it came from when I was younger. White ppl be hurting thinking they can use it because we use it amongst ourselves…negative! But let’s not forget they are the main consumers of hip-hop music. So when they bumpin the music in their car or crib you know they saying the word.
201.
J. Lewis
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
OOOOOH # 200 Chea!!!!
202.
WiseIntel
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
If this had been Jews, Mexicans. Asians, Vietnamese, Eyptians,,real Africans, Canadians.. they would have shut this down. However, this was Afro-Americans, oh well, I think that says a lot about us and our values. We too busy promoting violence amongst us.
203.
Jqueen
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
It’s just time for us to turn inward and start handling our own business right now. Michael Richard showed his true colors and there are a lot of folks, black and white, who don’t like the other.
I, myself, don’t hate white people. But, I can’t stand it when someone ‘takes a slap’ at us and we have a ‘ho-hum—yawn’ attitude about it.
I care about being Black and what that means for future generations. Past generations fought so we could be in the position. Are we going to fail them now with apathy?
Black America: It’s time for us to be OWNERS again. And when we do, we don’t have to get on TV, Radio, and everywhere blasting our business. Just do it–quietly, with excellence and integrity–and success will find you.
Also, everyone can’t be entrepreneurs, so for those who choose to work in companies–quit just being a hamster on the wheel and work with a purpose–to gain trust and get information and learn how the operation works. Bring it back to the fold to the ones that know what to do with it.
Black entrepreneurs: Hire, train, and mentor our young people. Instead of putting them down, train them to be excellent. We are the lifeblood to the future of Black America.
Finally, don’t leave God out of the equation.
204.
chacha123
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
I have a lot to say…
My husband asked me last night if I had heard about his outburst. I was clueless. Anyway, I found out what he’d said and I saw the footage on TMZ today. That was truly foul!!!
People in the audience at the show were laughing! What was that all about??? Those ignorant people couldn’t tell funny from all out rascism? Some people ooohh and aaahh’d as he STILL kept talking.
DON’T ALL COMEDIANS GET HECKLED AT SOME POINT IN THEIR CAREERS? That’s a part of the territory.
ALSO, HE TOLD THE BLACKS IN THE AUDIENCE “THAT’S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU MESS WITH THE WHITE MAN!”
On Letterman, he was talking about being in “character”. WHATEVER!! He went on and on and on even after the black guy told him that his comments were uncalled for.
He was doing dmamge control on Letterman because Jerry Seinfeld is promoting the 7th season (I think)of “Seinfeld” on DVD. He can’t have “Kramer” dissin black folks OR “Afro Americans”. Where did he get “Afro Americans”???
People on Letterman were laughing because they thought he was joking. I think some people either can’t believe “Kramer” said what he said or they are rascists too and agreed with him. Even Jerry told the audience to stop laughing!
I hope he will ask God to forgive him and ask God to examine his heart because something ain’t right with it. He has some true issues that he is in denial about. As a result of his outburst, his career will be on a LONG hiatus.
One last note, I don’t agree with blacks or any other race using the “N” word.
205.
ulala
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
wow were did kratina came form?
wow
206.
Ms. Observant
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
Mike said:
It’s something different when you take a word out of its context—and clearly that is what he did. Point blank. Rascist.
-So if two black men are in a confrontaction and one says “F*ck you, Nigga.” Is he not considered a rasist because he’s black so he gets a “pass” to say the N word how every he feels (good and bad context) and the word is less effective to be a hurtful term????
Somebody clarify because you have the most hypocrital folks going back and forth. You can’t say white people need to stop the rasism and call somebody a cracker or a big nose jew. Take it how you give it people!!!
207.
tianni
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
YAAAAAAAWN!
HE NEEDS TO GO AHEAD & TAKE A SEAT IN THE “WE DONT FORGIVE YOU SECTION” WITH MEL GIBSON.
WHAT HE SAID HE TRULY MEANT.
208.
Just blogging
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
I really don’t get it.
NIGGA AND NIGGER. WHY ARE BLACK PEOPLE TRYING TO DEFEND THIS F’N WORD!
First of all. Black people are really confused if they turned Nigger into Nigga just to make it sound better.
Second. To turn it from something derogatory to endearing….I mean come on people.
Definition;
Nigger is a slur term used to refer to dark-skinned peoples, especially people of African ancestry. Although sometimes used by Black people themselves (especially those who feel an affinity for hip hop culture) as a somewhat self-deprecating term that is suggestive of familiarity and endearment, the word is most often regarded as OFFENSIVE.
At the time of the Atlantic slave trade, nigger was a casual English language term for Black people. The word later became associated with an OVERT CONTEMPT, a racist assumption of inherent BLACK INFERIORITY, making it extremely pejorative.
PEJORATIVE;
A word or phrase is pejorative if it implies contempt or disapproval. The adjective pejorative is synonymous with derogatory and dyslogistic (noun: dyslogism) (antonyms: meliorative, eulogistic, noun eulogism). Dyslogisms such as “pea-brain” and “bottom-feeder” are words and phrases essentially pejorative by their nature.
How is this word so f’n endearing?
You tell me! Somebody please explain to me why this word is like a love thing between black people!
I think the word sounds like shit no matter who says it!
I can understand if someone is using it regarding historical references but damn. Why is it ok to shorten this word and give it a different meaning just so it is “ok” between black people?
When someone black calls someone “WHITE TRASH” OR “RED NECK” its considered that you are racist.
When white people call each other those terms…they don’t seem to like it not one bit. They hate when even their own people call them a RED NECK.
I don’t get it. Why are black people defending this stupid unuseful ignorant word.
209.
JUDAH
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
The word “nigger” only has power over people who allow a word to have power over them. The white man did not sit up and make up a word. It has a derivation and an etymology like any other word. Black people would save themselves alot of aggravation and embarassment if they took their research seriously and stopped making up definitions for words. You’re not teaching your child a damn thing when you tell them that color doesn’t matter and that the word “nigger” means ignorant when it doesn’t. I’ma hit you with something; if the word “nigger” means ignorant, WHICH IT DOESN’T, than 99% of black people are “niggers”.
The blacks, or coward undercover caucasians, that act like they’re so incensed at the negro usage of “nigga”, then anwser me this; what is a dignified term for the people brought over here in slave ships, lol? Nigger, negro, and black are all different words for the same concept. “Afro”-American I guess is an American with big hair and an “African”-American is exactly that. Moreover, Africa gets it’s name from the Greeks so you’re not being “enlightened” to call yourself by that title and everyone should know where America gets its name from.
Any fool knows that 2 different people can say the same exact thing but get a completely different reaction because the intent is different. If you think that the same word has the same connotation everytime it’s used then I don’t know what to tell you. I know for a fact that I view black people different than other people because I’m a “negro” so that’s where my perspective is. My problem with alot of these sanctimonious blacks is that they want to berate the younger people but you’ve never TAUGHT them anything because you don’t know a damn thing.
Michael Richards was obviously coached by Jerry Seinfeld, because they have each other’s backs, and the whole thing will blow over. Where are all the “God loves everybody”, “I don’t see color”, “you blacks are too sensitive” negroes at, lmao. Waiting for a thread where they can shovel their inane bullshit maybe? Lol. The same negroes that “forgive” Michael Richards will be the first ones to talk about how “black men ain’t shit” and “if a nigga test me”…so whatever.
No disrespect to you brother #167,
There is no such thing as a “semite”. The caucasians invented that term in their anthropological studies to insert themselves into African history. The Bible tells you that the descendants of “SHEM” are “SHEMITES”. Hitler did not kill the whites claiming to be Jews because of “African blood”. He and the majority of his staff were white jew, satanist, homosexuals there damn selves. He killed them as a pretext to the “jews” having an excuse to take the land of Israel from the Arabs and act as if they were fulfilling prophecy. Brother, the Josephus does not say that Africa got its name from Ophren. The Greeks named it that, at least from what I’ve researched, from the root word “affrike”. The Hebrews didn’t get their religion, language, and culture from the sumerians. The Most High laid all those things out for them in the first five books of the Bible.
210.
FreakeyStyley1
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
@FYI MY ASS
I don’t feel insulted because fools like you with a chip on your shoulder constantly let intelligent shit fly ova your fool ass head.
Sounds like you got a fukin 40 glued to your stupid ass lips!
Keep dr-dr-rinkin’ ignant ass. Now who sound YT, bitch ass.
211.
Albert
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
Obviously, you guys did not watch Seinfeld “hard enough”. Jerry Seinfeld was the Jewish guy on the show. Richards isn’t. Proof?
http://www.answers.com/to...wish-actors-and-actresses
212.
Ms.Yeah
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
Why is he Apologizing for being racist? Im confused, is he saying sorry because it was caught on tape because he DAMN sure aint saying sorry for “HIS HATE in his heart”! He is apologizing for words but not FEELINGS. And therefore, I would like to properly close my statement with a big F*CK-A YOU-A to him and his straggly hair a$$!
213.
bill
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 @ 4:06 pm
sweet_bliss said:
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I dont know why everyone is so angry.Atleast he was honest about it.The thing that makes me mad is that he’s aplogizing for it. Be a man about it and stand by what you say. Blacks need to learn to let shit go..Fuck him he’s not changing anything in my daily lifestyle im still brathing,eating,getting educated etc.. racisim still exsist I think we all know that but what you gonna do about it????
Bill Said:
Call a Homosexual a F—–, and they will LOSE THEIR FRIGGIN MINDS. They will organize a protest movement faster than you can snap your finger in a circle…..
Call a jewish person something derogatory, and they will telvised the incident on CNN, ABC, CBS & NBC
Call a Black person a Nigger, and you will have OTHER blacks on one of the largest BLOGS in the country say
“Blacks need to learn to let shit go”…….
I really don’t understand why people say things like that…
I guess they are intergrated & have assimalated into white culture so much, that nothing fazes them anymore….
that’s interesting…
214.
Miss Honey
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
I have come to the conclusion, that there are things that can’t be explain. I don’t like the N word but, if you are white and reading this blog please do not try to understand why you can’t call black people the N word, when they use it on their selves.
Micheal Richards apologize and that good enough for me. I accepted and move on. please leave this race conversation because it does more harm then good. Shaking my head…..
215.
JUDAH
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
@#208
You need to keep “just blogging”
The word “nigger” comes from the root word “NIGER” which is a Roman (Latin) term for negroes (Acts 13:1)
Anyone who has studied the “romantic” languagees knows that the vowel pronunciation is different. So in the romantic languages “NIGER” is pronounced “NEE-GARE”. Virtually the same word as modern day “nigger”.
When the caucasians regained the power that they lost during the Middle or “DARK” Ages they picked back up usage of the word but anglicised it so they needed to add the extra “g” to make the pronunciation the same. Simple as that.
216.
Slovely
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
sweet_bliss said:
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I dont know why everyone is so angry.Atleast he was honest about it.The thing that makes me mad is that he’s aplogizing for it. Be a man about it and stand by what you say. Blacks need to learn to let shit go..Fuck him he’s not changing anything in my daily lifestyle im still brathing,eating,getting educated etc.. racisim still exsist I think we all know that but what you gonna do about it????
^
That what a KKK member would say after burning black churches, crosses, and the African American race. No matter how much bigits would like to let things like this go away it will never go away honey. And to brush of the fact that this man went out of his character to put down a COMPLETE RACE, lets everyone know how close minded,ignorant, and heartless you are as a person. This man more then crossed the a line, he expression who he really is and what he truely believes deep down in his mind. And one who thinks hate his good as long as its towards a different race couldn’t be farthest from the truth. Hate can never bring peace, only friction and/or violence toward people who happen to be different. Who ever thinks that whites will once again rule over all and enforce unfare laws towards black (like trying to bring back slavery) will have to deal with a Very big fight. And why are whites so angry anyway? Its the 21 century and we still are being treated unfarely (Katrina being on once nationalized incident). If this man had so much anger built up inside him……talk to a pychiatrist. Who bothered who first? And if the so called “hecklers” where so bad why didn’t he just call security to let them out Before he ranted on JUST THE BLACK RACE. Its not like white people and Italians don’t named call athletes, and I mean these people get excessive, but the athletes just ignore the idiots or sometime pick fun at them……..AND JUST THEM. There’s no defending this man no matter what anyone says. He’s wrong and his career is through (thats if people are smart enought to have nothing to do with this Tyrant).
217.
sweet_bliss
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
I cosign @209 thank you thank you …your such an angel
218.
Ms.Yeah
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
Im even angier that he apologized! Like wtf is that worth? “Im sorry” and … ok lets go out to dinner on that note! Don’t step back on your words now
219.
Asentha
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
He STILL needs his ass kicked!!!
220.
Slovely
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
And as for the N word. i don’t agree with ANYONE saying it…..it has too much meaning behind (even for blacks). But you can’t deny the context and emotion! He REALLY MEANT WHAT HE SAID. No amount of liquor can do that to a person, alcohol only expression ones true feelings. That it!
221.
sweet_bliss
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
@216 Im not defending him at all..Stop reading taking things from my post that are not there. you seem to answer all question but one..WHAT YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT ?????? The word dont affect me b/c I know what I am..I also answer to a higher power so I could care less what he said..The word dont mean shit unless you let it..
222.
JHARRIS
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
is he f***ing serious? not only did he call the guys ni*** but he he called us AFRO AMERICANS. Are we still being called “AFRO Americans” He can stuff that shizznitty As* apology up his butt. He didn’t even sound sincere about it trying to look all innocent. he disgust me. David Letterman should not have even entertained him and let him on his show via sattelite or whatever. He also sounded like he was being coached on what to say
223.
sweet_bliss
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
@213 bill what you gonna do about it??????
224.
NANA
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
PEARLPRINCESS SAID:
nice try kramer, it was clear that u meant those words you said, and this is how u try to clear your name…not buying it. during APARTHEID in South Africa, the word KAFER (sorry for even writing it) was used to refere to the black man, exactly like the N* word but South Africans have burried that word along with apartheid and NO ONE uses it black or white because they understand their history and the horrible history of the word…THAT DUDE SHOULD NOT HAVE USED IT, AND HE KNOWS IT…AND NO RAPPER SHOULD BE SINGING ABOUT IT EITHER.
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I THINK THATS REALLY INTERESTING, AND I BELIEVE THE STRUGGLE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT THE FACT THAT THEY SHARE THAT SIMILARITY WITH THE LABELING IS REALLY INTERESTING TO ME. I HOPE A LESSON CAN BE LEARNED OUT OF THIS…BTW…KRAMER DUDE YOU ARE IN DEEP SHIT MAN.
225.
mizzlizz
Tuesday, November 21, 2006 /
Hey CL, look what I found on the fadedyouth blog:
BLIND ITEM from 11/2005:
‘This white actor appeared on a long running TV series. This sitcom is one of the most successful shows in television history. This actor was given his own show when the series was cancelled. The show lasted a few seasons; his career took an nose-dive and never recovered. This actor has a secret; he has an intense hatred for African-Americans. So much so, he makes donations to white supremacist websites. He also has a reputation for being a lousy lover, his nickname in Hollywood is: ‘The one minute man.’’
Kramer has made his own bed. Stupid jerk.
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