Hey, Bill, Grlnva,777-9311,MizLizz, Bashyboo, hope you all have a great holiday. I’m suppose to be packing but I had to see if the site was up. I hate to travel.

As far as the post, cracker please. Too many white people feel the exact same way. I could care less.

on Monday, November 20, 2006 @ 2:51 pm

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my husband was telling me about this, I think deep down every white person feels the same way, they just smile in your face but deep down they wanna say the same thing. This dude was probaly drunk and it all came out. Not surprised, they are all predjudice and they want all of us black folk to go back to Africa.

Bill Said:

Basically….
He was just reflecting his TRUE feelings…
I suspect that the majority of Caucasians feel the same way…..

I’m just disgusted that he kept going and going on as if it was merely a joke… I thought we were on our way to abolishing racism in in this century but it looks like we have a long way to go!
I MYSELF ALONG W/ A GIRL FRIEND OF MINE WERE CALLED “NIGGER’s” this PAST SUMMER 2006 SOME PEOPLE SAY IT’S BECAUSE MY HBCU’s LOCATED IN A SMALL COUNTRY TOWN BUT “I SAY” THAT’S A BUNCH OF BULL & THE IGNORANCE SHOWS HOW UNEDUCATED THEY TRULY ARE!

Bump that #22 & #4. Out of the abundance of the heart - the mouth speaks.

Jewish is a race? Um, no!

Thats true Myshell, I think a whole lot of white people feel this way.
Especially them watching hip hop.
Who knows Donald Trump, Pres Bush, Record Company Owners feel the same way we just never hear about it, but everyone once in a while people slip. WHATS DONE IN THE DARK ALWAYS COMES TO LIGHT

Has CL been having loading/server problems lately, or is it just my computer?

Also, I have commented on this until I am blue in the face…I have faith that Loopers will handle this appropriately.

But really, has the site been having problems loading lately?

First Mel then Isaiah and now Kramer.

its not a race, but a culture that endured pain themselves.
Jewish people are the last to say go back to where you came from or make any hate references because 6 million people were killed because they had Jewish Physical Traits and they didnt look the part

on Monday, November 20, 2006 @ 3:38 pm

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Hey, Bill, Grlnva,777-9311,MizLizz, Bashyboo, hope you all have a great holiday. I’m suppose to be packing but I had to see if the site was up. I hate to travel.

As far as the post, cracker please. Too many white people feel the exact same way. I could care less.

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Bill Said:

Happy Thanksgiving Sweetheart.
I’ve been meaning to tell you I really like your avatar too !!!
Happy Holidays and I will pray traveling mercies for you & yours ms. myshell !!!

I’m sure a lot of them feel this way deep down inside. The only thing that the Whites are saying is if this was a Black person nobody would care. But I doubt that look at what happened with Isaiah.

Thank GOD I NEVER watched Seinfeld, If there are NO black characters, I try not to watch. While I’m taking, I NEVER saw FRIENDS either, I did watch FRASIER a couple of times, I liked it.

You know what’s funny? It seems like it had to take Kramer’s antics to let Black Folks realize that deep down, white folks don’t like y’all. Kind of a knee jerker, huh? News Flash, they all feel like that.

I’m so out done right now. He had to be high!

Um no when you practice Judaism you’re considered Jewish. Israelites are from Israel, so once again I will say get it right! He practices Judaism.

myshell, have a great holiday!

I dunno why some people try to pretend like racism doesn’t exist. It is alive and well! The other day I was walking down the street in my old neighborhood, mostly Eastern European, Hispanic, and Black, and some white guy passed by me, stopped me, and said, “You’re a cute n*gger, I’d still fuck you.”

It’s shocking and disturbing, even in NYC.

I am sorry *Rena* that is where I have to dissagree with you. Did you know that a “jewish” person was the first ever to do “Black Face?” Most people think it was a white person but it was not he was Jewish. But again we are not focusing on what’s real here, HE TALKED ABOUT LYNCHING BLACK PEOPLE! I WANT TO SEE IF THIS WILL GO ON ALL THE MAJOR NEWS CHANNELS, AND ON THE ENTERTAINMENT NEWS. LIKE MEL GIBSON AND ISAIAH WASHINGTON’S COMMENTS DID.

I felt Sienfield was not funny and it was made popular by the off kelter kramer charater . This is how people feel when they are angry …. the worst things come out they mouth and it might be in there heart . But I’m not surprised . The N word comes out they mouth pretty quick when they are drunk .I work on a college campus !

where are the black pantherz when u need em. lol

88 Dukesman

How the HELL do you know how all of us feel?

STFU.

Sometimes I wonder why we as black people are so surprized by this type of behavior. White people haven’t changed.The same way you believe in the traditions that your parents and grandparents observed is the same way white people follow the say traditions and beliefs of their forefathers. And who were their parents and grandparents: Slavemasters! Just because they work with you and live in their neighborhoods doesn’t change their perspective about you! You still a NIGGER in their eyes!Just a nigga with a benz or Nigga with a big house or a Nigger with a Nigger with a PhD! In their eyes you are only good for entertainment or labor if you are a black man or sex if you are black woman!

i never found seinfield funny, the humor never appealed to me. he has alot of nerve saying that to a black man. he’s lucky he didnt jump across the stage and smash his face in.

#21 The N word is a racial slur because that was what “black people” are referred to deem them inferior. Everyone know’s what the N word means if you look it up but there is a damaging history behind the word. Kramer is pathetic and he truly meant what he said.

THATS HOW HE REALLY FEELS AND THATS SAD…REALLY SAD

but did you hear how many ppl in the audience were laughing tho????

that had better be nervous laughter

Thanks Bill and Lizz, now I’m watching Oprah and still not packing. Beyonce and Jamie. I will not miss this movie.

i wish it was somebody like justin would have done it so i could read shit from black women like.

*his music is hot* *it’s behind us*
*leave justin alone he had a bad day*

i would have rushed that tiny ass
stage and cracked that
cracka’s head like the liberty bell…………

you would think that he had more professionalism than that..all he did was perpetuate his own stereotype as a white, racist, sheet-wearing, bigot!

on Monday, November 20, 2006 @ 3:56 pm

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Sometimes I wonder why we as black people are so surprized by this type of behavior. White people haven’t changed.The same way you believe in the traditions that your parents and grandparents observed is the same way white people follow the say traditions and beliefs of their forefathers. And who were their parents and grandparents: Slavemasters! Just because they work with you and live in their neighborhoods doesn’t change their perspective about you! You still a NIGGER in their eyes!Just a nigga with a benz or Nigga with a big house or a Nigger with a Nigger with a PhD! In their eyes you are only good for entertainment or labor if you are a black man or sex if you are black woman!

Bill Said:
Yup !!
I cosign !!
Y’all busy trying to intergrate with them and date/marry them….

Why are y’all so surprised? You KNOW this is how white people feel about us! It’s just that most of them have enough home-training to know better than that. What a fool!!!

First of all let me say I’m shocked by this, Seinfeld is one of my favorite shows and now I’m never gonna be able to look at Richards character in the same light ever again, that shit is absolutly bogus.

Anyway while reading through these comments I found one of T HEN’S comments very disturbing “jews control the media”. TIME THE FUCK OUT! You wanna talk about prejudice? I can’t believe how someone so disgusted by this can go and say some JUST AS IGNORANT. I consider judaism as being in my heritage because my grandfather was jewish and he and his family fled russia to escape persecution so a stereotype like that is uncalled for. IF YOU HAD TO make a reference about the media being twisted you should have said that WHITE PEOPLE CONTROL IT and made it a larger issue which may or may not be true, but what I think it really boiled down to is Mel Gibson being FAR more famous taht Michael Richards.

@ BILL

As a member of Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc., I salute you as well.

Without the help from our brothers and sisters, this would not have been possible.

Donate and focus on the positive!

Be Black, Be Strong, and Be Intelligent.
http://www.mlkmemorial.org/

Sincerely,

RESPECT

#104 Yeah, but they posted it on the blog for people to discuss the issue.

Darn I missed Oprah I’ll catch it tonight.

AND JUST THINK, HOW MANY TIMES I THOUGHT HE WAS A GOOD COMEDIAN, AT LEAST WE KNOW, I’LL BET HIS BROTHER FEELS THE SAME WAY. PEOPLE WE MUST STOP CALLING EACH OTHER THE N WORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY FEEL LIKE THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH IT

Oprah is still on, I’m about to go watch it now!

Thanks Bill. AKAs are awfully cool (do I sound biased? PLEASE DON’T START A GREEK WAR. I respect all of you on this site, members of Greek letter organizations and those who are not. I’m just talking to my Uncle Bill. )

MYSHELL , get your butt up and get to packing. Have fun on your break.

@ grlnva: i don’t care what the definition of the word is…it is used by white people to humiliate blacks. we need to stop going around calling each other niggers cause it makes us look like fools…if people are still offended by the word then it’s not casual and we should stop pretending that it is.

I live in Chicago,so Oprah only comes on twice here, in the morning and late at night.

Sad part is this only came out because he got angry and expressed his “real” feelings about black people. Imagine how many more feel the way he does. I swear I never liked that damn show and NEVER thought is was funny. I’m black and I never understood why black people watched this show. They never really had black people on it and I just never saw how we could relate to anything they had to talk about, yet we promoted it by watching it while they made millions. Ok signing off before I get upset. Peace ya’ll.

Can we please stop calling ourselves niggers too???? I dont care if you spell it nigga, niggah, or nigger. Its all the same dumb shit!!!!

I see our people throwing the word around like its nothing in front of whites, in front of our children and elders (Elders who still probably feel the pain of that word from their youth). Even white folks are using it in everyday talk. Its sooo sad to me…

“Kramer”, in my opinion is a typical white person…I’m not saying he is right. He is EVIL for that shit. But WE should stop referring to ourselves as niggers as well.

greetings @ LOVE. i’m assuming you’re not black since you didn’t come from “no damn africa.” and if whites told you to get hell out of this country, as they often do in their racist tirades? where would you go? and yes, i am an african, and don’t appreciate the word “damn” used before my homeland. peace.

YES!! #112. Thank you!

I’m glad to say I never watched Seinfield. What an idiot, a true racist. There is no way he can cover this up. He’s a comedian, he could have easily clowned him with some kind of joke but instead he took his mask or white hood off and exposed his true form. I’m pissed off at the fact that he was right back on stage to do another show. Does that mean the Laugh Factory condoned this? I say boycott the Laugh Factory until he is off their bill and they extend an apology to every offended person around the world for his comments.

on Monday, November 20, 2006 @ 4:14 pm

RESPECT said:
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@ BILL

As a member of Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc., I salute you as well.

Without the help from our brothers and sisters, this would not have been possible.

Donate and focus on the positive!

Be Black, Be Strong, and Be Intelligent.
http://www.mlkmemorial.org/

Sincerely,

RESPECT

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Bill Said:

God Bless you Greek !!

If it wasn’t for the Alpha’s we never would have had a Martin Luther King Jr !!!!

@ Mischa,

I would answer you but then why pick and argument with an ignorant dumb ass bitch like yourself because you’ll drag me down to your level and beat me with experience.

on Monday, November 20, 2006 @ 4:22 pm

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Thanks Bill. AKAs are awfully cool (do I sound biased? PLEASE DON’T START A GREEK WAR. I respect all of you on this site, members of Greek letter organizations and those who are not. I’m just talking to my Uncle Bill. )

Bill Said:
The Greeks on Concrete Loop are much to intelligent to start beefing about who has the best Frat/Soro….

it’s all about respect..at least it is with me…..

He lost this fan…never again will I be able to see this dude in the same light again!

Kramer was the only reason why I watched Seinfeld. He was the life of the show to me. If that stand up comedy show was down here where I am at, believe me, Kramer would not have made it out of there alive. And if by chance he did make it out of there alive, he would not have made it out of the parking lot alive. I am disgusted to my stomach to think that he actually believes that you can find humor in someone being lynched. HIS ASS NEEDS TO BE HUNG, LYNCHED, WHIPPED, CHOKED, SHOT, STABBED, RAPED, BEATEN AND BURNED. Let’s see once he goes through those things if he would still find that $hit funny or entertaining.

Doesn’t he feel like a real ass!

I’m really not surprised at his comments. I think most white people will resort to calling black people niggers if you piss them off. I gotta get back to watching Oprah, but here’s an audience member talking about the incident.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEcz9T3MuL4

on Monday, November 20, 2006 @ 4:44 pm

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Kramer was the only reason why I watched Seinfeld. He was the life of the show to me. If that stand up comedy show was down here where I am at, believe me, Kramer would not have made it out of there alive. And if by chance he did make it out of there alive, he would not have made it out of the parking lot alive. I am disgusted to my stomach to think that he actually believes that you can find humor in someone being lynched. HIS ASS NEEDS TO BE HUNG, LYNCHED, WHIPPED, CHOKED, SHOT, STABBED, RAPED, BEATEN AND BURNED. Let’s see once he goes through those things if he would still find that $hit funny or entertaining.

Bill Said:

She’s ONLY KIDDING !!!!…

Foxxy380..You can’t make threats against people…it’s a crime…

Foxxy380 is ONLY KIDDING y’all

Ok, I watched the tape and @777-9311 LEAVE ME ALONE! I HAVE TIME!:-)

Did anyone else notice how long it took for the audience to stop laughing?

Stop the presses, Beyonce is singing LISTEN.

I’m not liking how I’m seeing the story reported. The reports and most conversations are focusing on his use of the word nigger. Ok say it is black folks fault for making nigger/nigga acceptable.(I disagree but let’s just say it’s ok). Who in the hell made it acceptable to talk about lynching a black man, people are overlooking the face that he referenced lynching.

Saying nigger don’t make one a racist, but everything else he said damn sure let me know that he is a low life racist bastard.

He should have gotten his ass kicked!!!!!!! He’s lucky someone from the audience didn’t run up onstage and beat the shit outta him!!

Whenever anyone gets mad, they reach for the world that will hurt the most. White people use the n*gger, and black people use h*nkey or cr*cker. You make anyone mad enough they will attack with some harsh words, black men will call you a b*tch, and black women will insult your manhood. So please, don’t act like only whites do it. Isiah Washington called a gay cast member a faggot, he didn’t really feel that way, he was just upset and lashing out.

Now with that said and done, what the hell was Kramer doing?

The problem with Kramer is that he had no reason to be that mad. He is a comedian this happens to him everyday. At least Mel Gibson was drunk. I’m not sure what Kramer’s problem was, but he didn’t just say it once, he said it at least seven times. Then had the nerve to talk about lynching. I don’t know black folks, but that sound like a threat to me. Lost his mind, my foot this man is one dynamite stick away from blowing up black churches. There were other black people in the audience, and we he saw how they were offended, but he kept on using the n-word. He needs to be hit with a hate crime, and go sit in jail with some of his neo-nazi friends, hopefully they’ll protect him from somebody “hanging him upside down with a fork in his ass.”

How can a white man with afro hair call a black man n*gger? Maybe he considers himself black, and was using the nigga meaning.

This fool is exactly that a fool.

Hey Bill! I’m sorry did I make a threat? Oops! I didn’t mean to. Just like Kramer didn’t mean to offend anyone.

thats fucked up

on Monday, November 20, 2006 @ 4:52 pm

Brown Hornet said:

…Who in the hell made it acceptable to talk about lynching a black man, people are overlooking the face that he referenced lynching.

Bill Said:

So..Is that what he means when he says “fifty years ago we would have turned you upside down and stuck a fork in you” ???

What WE (Black People) hav to ask OURSELVES (the black race) is this Question:

It’s 2006.
why would Caucasians feel it’s okay/acceptable to use that particular word.
Could it be how we portray OURSELVES in our video’s & movies ??
***Every OTHER black produced movie is about some drug kingpin..Our Black Produced Video show our Beautiful Black woman as being Sluts, and our Black Men as being thugs…

If you watch BET’s Comic View, we mimic and laugh at ourselves, and we glammorize stereotypes commmonly associated with the Black race….

Could Kramer calling a Black person a Nigger be a result of what he has encoutered personally ????

Just asking a open ended question..
It’s 2006.
Who talks like that (kramer) anymore ????

Are we now being privy to what caucasians REALLY feel about us ???

Just wondering…

on Monday, November 20, 2006 @ 5:01 pm

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Hey Bill! I’m sorry did I make a threat? Oops! I didn’t mean to. Just like Kramer didn’t mean to offend anyone.

Bill Said:

That’s cool…I KNOW you, and I know your heart…

What YOU should keep in mind is that THOUSANDS of people read our postings, and someone may not think you were joking….You never know who may be on here reading our letter (FBI, CIA, the po po), thinking that we are some radical Black organization trying to plan an assasination of Kramer…

that’s all I’m saying…
I got your back !

your BIG brother
Bill

#8 & #10…LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#21….SO SO TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MYSHELL #76..u and i are on the same page…

black people…STAY ON YOUR TOES….white people do not like you!!!! (even the ones that walked out after kramer started trippin)….go to skool, make money (legally), and stay ON TOP of ur game!!!! i rest my case.

MIZZLIZZ is #1

he RIGHT tho 50 years ago we would have been LYNCHED by a LYNCH MOB 20 to 30 to ONE ain’t THAT brave?cause they know one on one they probably gonna get the BEAT DOWN if they tried that shit.

a LOT of peeps on THIS(cl) site got a little racist SLANT in them just go to the JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE post a week or so ago and you will see STEREOTYPING(lumping everyone together)because they THINK he said somethin about JANET or PRINCE.NOW he ain’t suppossed to make any R&B soundin music just so called WHITE music.FUG DAT music is COLORBLIND. if you get MAD or stop PLAYING a song cause you THOUGHT it sounded like it was SOMEONE FROM a different RACE you probably NEED JESUS and THERAPY.

NOW erbody generally saying THAT’S HOW WHITE people(all)ARE.(more stereotyping).

NO every RACE has it’s ASSHOLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(and some PEOPLE need to STOP THINKING).
NO that is NOT the norm i’ll bet most of your TEACHERS coming up were WHITE i know I am grateful my WHITE nieghbor did more for me than my DADDY did as a matter of fact a LOT of my NEIGHBORS,TEACHERS,and CUACASIAN FRIENDS helped me out.So to lump them ALL together it JUST AIN’T SMART.
WE (know)NEED WHITE people and they NEED US.
WE teach them WHAT and HOW to be COOL(high five).
THEY teach US how to make MONEY and to think for the FUTURE so CAN’T WE ALL GET ALONG??????????????????????

KRAMER gonna get HIS. i’m sure a group of blacks could have one hell of a OPEN MIKE on HIS peaCOCK lookin ass all day but NOTE if you gonna HECKLE you better COME WITH IT and DON’T GET MAD if you LOOSE CAUSE NOBODY TOLD YO MONKEY ASS to say anything ANYWAY.

Is this any different than whenEVER thier is a WHITE person that came to see a BLACK COMEDY SHOW that they get CALLED OUT and made jokes ABOUT?(you be the judge).

I just know i HATE IT when they do that but it happens alot and the people luv it.

NIGGER = a word used with the intent of HURT or HATE.
NIGGA = a term(most popular)used to greet and meet friends and family with the intent of destigmatizeing the outhr N word.

I believe racism is a DISEASE that NEEDS a TREATMENT but a SMART person KNOWS how to use a WEAKNESS as a STRENGTH look at U.S. HATEING on the IRAQIANS NOW and we DON’T EVEN KNOW THEM………….SAD,so SAD.

Bill, Respect - (I’m too sad about the Kramer thing to comment. Kramer is a bug out. I don’t really know what to think now.)

But on the subject of Martin King, my understanding is that he was initiated as an honorary member of Alpha Rho chapter in Morehouse. Let me know if my info is incorrect. Regardless of the way that King became a member, undoubtedly his pride in APA helped to sustain him. It’s just something that’s always been mentioned in intellectual circles.

Bill, I agree. The Greeks on CL don’t get caught up in the “who runs the yard” drama. It’s a young thing. As you mature, it quickly morphs into, “where is your service to the community?” BTW, I’m a member of Kappa Alpha Psi Fraternity, Inc.

wtf and to think i used to like his white ass blacks paid his bills to some of us liked seinfield dirty bastard not all whites but the majority prolly cant stand us but its ok cuz they kids want to be black tryna act hip but im not surprised he sed what a lot of them want to say but scurrrrrred lol

70 YEARS AGO HIS RACE WAS ASS OUT

thas not him

on Monday, November 20, 2006 @ 5:57 pm

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Bill, Respect - (I’m too sad about the Kramer thing to comment. Kramer is a bug out. I don’t really know what to think now.)

But on the subject of Martin King, my understanding is that he was initiated as an honorary member of Alpha Rho chapter in Morehouse. Let me know if my info is incorrect. Regardless of the way that King became a member, undoubtedly his pride in APA helped to sustain him. It’s just something that’s always been mentioned in intellectual circles.

Bill, I agree. The Greeks on CL don’t get caught up in the “who runs the yard” drama. It’s a young thing. As you mature, it quickly morphs into, “where is your service to the community?” BTW, I’m a member of Kappa Alpha Psi Fraternity, Inc.

Bill Said:
Famous Nupes
http://wwwnew.towson.edu/...11/Pages/famous_nupes.htm

I agree with Bru-Kno ; ) I don’t believe that all white people have some kind of hatred towards black people. I have many white friends and have had some very kind people in my life who have shown me just as much love as black people. If you’re gonna put all whites in a group, why don’t you do the same with blacks. As a matter of fact I just came from the Holocaust Museum in Richmond, VA and actually met two survivers of the Holocaust which is a life changing experience…so I definantly have somethin to say. Also for those people that think that using the n-word is okay. Just think about how you’re ancestors felt being called boy, nigger, bitch, etc. by white people. How do you think it made them feel being called out of their names and humiliated. For the young black brothers & sisters out there…you are so much better than that…you’re so quick to jump on white people for doing it but what makes it okay for you to say…stop calling each other bitches, niggas, etc…respect yourselves and the people who suffered so you could even have a free life.

on Monday, November 20, 2006 @ 5:57 pm

Devron said:
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Bill, Respect - (I’m too sad about the Kramer thing to comment. Kramer is a bug out. I don’t really know what to think now.)

But on the subject of Martin King, my understanding is that he was initiated as an honorary member of Alpha Rho chapter in Morehouse. Let me know if my info is incorrect. Regardless of the way that King became a member, undoubtedly his pride in APA helped to sustain him. It’s just something that’s always been mentioned in intellectual circles.

Bill, I agree. The Greeks on CL don’t get caught up in the “who runs the yard” drama. It’s a young thing. As you mature, it quickly morphs into, “where is your service to the community?” BTW, I’m a member of Kappa Alpha Psi Fraternity, Inc.

Bill Said:

Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc. at a glance…

FOUNDED: December 4, 1906 at Cornell University, Ithaca, NY

MOTTO: “First of All, Servants of All, We Shall Transcend All”

NATIONAL PROGRAMS: “Go To High School, Go To College”, Sankofa Project, “A Voteless People Is A Hopeless People”, Project Alpha, Alpha University.

FAMOUS MEMBERS: Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., Thurgood Marshall, Adam Clayton Powell, Jesse Owens, and Quincy Jones.

ORGANIZATION COLORS: Black and Old Gold

This is what is wrong with the world today…we need to come together…not move further apart

Okay let me get this shit straight…somebody please tell me this is a damn joke.

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Once again, I have no words.

damn i guess it his him haha (really it aint funny tho jus his theatrics) he had a “colored” moment (i.e. like when we quittin a job)

Well I neva really liked his character (I liked jerry, elaine and george, i thought kramer was lame as hell) but i still cant watch reruns anymore without feeling wrong doing it. Oh well, the best we can do is ignore him…no rallying, no allowing him to explain his side. We need to just forget about him and rally for things that truly matter, not some washed up racist has been.