Tell me this ain’t true Kramer! How could you? I loved you on seinfield sliding through the door delivering your jokes. Not any more mate, you are dead to me! You need your head kicked in! I hope you burn in ‘cracker hell’

I saw this joint on Entertainment Tonight….f*** the fact he said nigger…about 6+ times…that hangin from the tree statement woulda got his ass shot the **** up…he tryin to apolgize now…oh HELLLLL NAW!

Man, can’t read all these comments…
“Kramer” is not funny as a stand-up. I wonder what he would have done if the crowd started to heckle him even more…. probably get a heart attack…one less Jewish nigga to worry about.
Quote : “It’s not what you are called…it’s what you answer to”…..Madea Goes to Jail.

@303 that’s tavis smiley quote honey

Gianni said:
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i am a white person and i don’t like the act of this fucker being racist. i hate racism and i respect all people. it is true that many white hate blacks and the other way round too.

whites also discriminate between them for example germans hate dutch ppl. most of the european countries hate russians!!!

we should be united and we should let everyone form his ideas but anyway god will judge him at the end so…what is wrong is wrong and what is right is right!!

peace

I said: get the fuck outta here.White people kill me trying to act like racisim is an equal thing.*smh*. go sit your ass down some where.. We should feel better b/c whites hate each other too… LOL

LOL it’s alot of white people hiding behind these messages Im eyeing a few now..LOL

TOO FUNNY

First off, If you read what I wrote, I don’t condone Richard’s words, his intent of using lynching as anything as appropriate. He should have gotten his ass kicked up and down that stage. This mindset cuts to the bone in regards to what my people (yes Black people) have gone through. And I have no doubt that there are a lot of white people who hate us, smile in our face and talk behind our back and call us nigger even though we are doctors, lawyers, and honest working folks.

But while this shit is real (and as far as I am concerned) will always be part of mine and your reality, we as a people (yes my people, BLACK PEOPLE) need to check ourselves. My parents, your parents and our ancestors have been exposed to that sort of language for all of their lives so that our generation (yes my people, BLACK People) can toss it around. Please!!!

you shouldn’t feel better b/c i said that Lisa/B.

if u want to be racist do as u pls i ain’t gonna give a fuck. i’m interested in what i do…all i wanna say is that it is my opinion. you form yours and deal with it. besides it is not fly do be a racist id doesn’t make you a big balled guy or a big boobed chick!!!!!!!!!!

u see that ‘mature’ ppl are not racist…see eminem and 50, fat joe and remy, paul wall, danity kane, diddy…

What shocks me the most is his nerve to say that he’s not a racist. He just snapped. He made references to lynching and dropped n-bomb repeatedly.

When you’re drunk or angry, the truth comes out. I’ve said some very backwards things while angry, but those backwards things completely reflect my view. The nerve of him to say that he just lost it.

You know what? I have never met anyone of any background who isn’t somewhat racist. I truly believe that you have the right to think what you want about others as long as you treat them with dignity and respect. If your thoughts are toxic, it’s to your own detriment. The reality is that when you treat people like human beings, not categories, the hatred inside is slowly but surely washed away.

Phuck Kramer! He’s a racist, just like anyone who uses these broad terms like “all whites” “that’s how they all feel deep down inside” “smile in my face” etc. Thats all bullshit. Comments like these need to be addressed regardless of who they come from. Folks need to start looking at themselves too. Its real easy to generalize and group people as being a bunch of bigots because you run into some bullshit, but then you end up becoming what they are. If I were to judge black folks by the comments on this board I would have to think that the black community is full of reactionary bigots with a few islands of sensibility. I know better than that. You do too. I dont believe people are screwy until they prove it to me. Kramer is way screwy. Random guy on street, I don’t know, and you don’t either. You need to trust that people aren’t racist. If you spend all your time looking for racism you will find it whether it is there or not. It becomes a witch hunt. Kramer is phucked up as is anyone who thinks like him regardless of color. By the way this fool Kramer doesn’t represent me! I ain’t down with any shit like this.

DISSAPOINTED: I understand where you’re coming from but you gotta see that there’s a HUGE difference between having love for yourself and hating someone else. In my opinion, people who tolerate or “forgive” this kind of nonesense have zero dignity. You don’t need “proof” to see why minorities overpopulate the correction system and are consistently denied equal access to opportunity. These structures endure because whites COLLECTIVELY support and propagate them. The fact that some are innocent of this doesn’t absolve the majority that are not.

WATER: You will never be able to convince me, or anyone with a single brain cell, that anything that blacks call or do to each other vindicates the racist attitudes of these inbred cowards. That’s why I know you must be white. Nuff said

GIANNI: I look at lost drones like you and laugh. I do not know A SINGLE black person who hates white people for being white. Unfortunately, you will never be able to say the converse for 99% of your brood with a straight face. Black people (as well most non-whites on the planet) are just collectively disgusted with your atrocious history and are repulsed by your oblivion. Congratulations on replicating your boring self-righteous banter on OUR forum. And wtf is “it’s not fly?” btw? LMAO.. look at you trying to sound like you’re down! Typical white chick that feels she’s s*cked enough black d*ck to get a hood pass. The epitome of white corniness. Please let off our nutsacks already.

Question: Can black people for ONCE have something going without a bunch of lames chiming in?

Folks, this incident is the exact point I was making on the Janet/Timberlake thread: White people are boldly coming forward and slapping us in the face.

WHAT THE SAM HILL ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?

It’s time to fight back–intellectually, articulately, economically–and NOT ACT LIKE THE NIGGER KRAMER IS. We have to kick emotions out and stop cursin’ folks out as a slap back. It’s not hurtin’ them. It only makes us sound ignorant. We can’t be foolish about this, but smart….

It’s also time for us to kick the term ‘Nigger’ to the curb. I don’t care what anyone says, it will never be a term of endearment.

I get so sick and tired of people saying well blacks use the word nigga so why is it a problem when whites use it. To me nigga is a term of endearment. Nigger is not. So when blacks use the word we are using it for endearment. Do you think when white people use it they are using it for endearment? Hell no! They use it to offend and degrade us.

If a brother calls his sister a name (stupid, b!tch etc) does it give someone outstide the family a right to call his sister that same name just b/c he heard the brother call her a name. NO! The brother will probably wanna kick that person a$$ for calling his sister that name. Well we are the same way and even though some may feel it is wrong for black people to even use it…that’s cool. I think of my black males as brothers and my black females as sisters and I will not approve of ANYONE who is outside our family calling us names.

umm he does have a point.. u dont hear white ppl callin eachotha honkys and asians callin eachotha chinks but we call each otha niggaz as if we actually are … he was wrong .. but either way a blk person .. white person.. or asain can b a nigger

The hecklers really got to him didn’t they ? I don’t watch Seinfield - never found it that funny. We have to remember that actors are just that. They are only playing a character on TV and yes it is disappointing when their true side comes out and they aren’t as nice as the character they play. Everything that was bottled up inside him about how he felt about black people came out and comments like that don’t just come out of your mouth unless you hold that kind of hatred in the first place.

To #202 aka ODDONE–very good name because you are an clueless idiot!!! If a White person heckled Chris Rock or another Black comedian they wouldn’t degrade the person’s race like some ignorant bigot; they’d bounce on the person in a comedic manner–something Michael Richards as a professional comedian should have known how to do, instead of ranting like the Grand Dragon of the KKK; Richards could’ve said, e.i. “Hey, I made millions of dollars playing some dumb character on some silly TV sitcom–how much money do you make working at Wal-Mart (no offense to Wal-Mart workers, this is just an example)? Also, White people don’t refer to themselves as “European-Americans”–people specify like Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans or Polish-Americans. The world isn’t Black and White. Havn’t you heard folks refer to themselves as Asian-Americans or Mexican-Americans??? Pull your head out of your ass and pay attention. When I watched the Michael Richards’ pathetic breakdown the first thing I thought of was, “Now, I have to listen to a bunch of stupid analogies by people.”

Seinfeld is a funny show about nothing, but there are seldom any black people appearing and when they do, its a sore thumb or overkill!

And, to all of you who say, “well, we call each other niggas”…I say, you know nothing about relationships! We can call each other what we like, because we have a common bond like a husband and wife who call each other honey and baby! Michael has no right and he was way out of line!

Call a coworker “honey” and you can be charged for sexual harassment! You can’t even call on Jesus if you don’t have a relationship with Him! He’ll tell you to depart from me…I never knew you!

Developing…!

For those who mentioned that we have to call our Black entertainers, comedians, and etc. to the carpet for going off on Whites and others: You’re right to a point.

Whoever said it’s the Intent behind the message, is exactly right. What Michael Richards said was a result of the hatred he had in his heart. Lynching? Disgusting. Chris Rock points out the differences between White and Black culture w/ no malicious intent and will do it in front of an all-white or all-black audience.

I know there are good and bad apples in every cultural barrel, but Black America, especially, Young Black America: WAKE YOUR BEHINDS UP AND QUIT BEING LED BY THE MEDIA AND HIP-HOP. Learn how to speak, spell, write, and save your money. It’s one thing to be with your friends, in the privacy of your home or neighborhood, and speak slang.

It’s another to be on public transportation or other public places, and be loud, rude, and callin’ each other ‘Niggas’ and dressed like hood’rats and girls lookin’ like video strippers.

No one is saying that you can’t have your own mind and ideas about what you like/dislike/will do/or won’t do, HOWEVER, you DO have a responsibility as a Black American to USE YOUR HEADS and think about what we are allowing other people to do to us and how we’re going to respond.

THIS IS AN ECONOMIC, INTELLIGENCE, AND CLASS BATTLE. Are you prepared to fight so that we may ALL benefit–even if you don’t like the personality of your brother or sister on the Loop or disagree with what they may say? Or are you going to resort to immature, emotional childish curses, rants, and a crab-in-the-bucket mentality to hurt them b/c you don’t have the maturity to rise above it?

I’m no so much focused on White people as I am on us: Again, I say, what are we going to do to position ourselves economically, educationally, relationally, mentally, to hit back if someone decides they want to come after us? We do it UNDERGROUND. We do it on the WEB. We donate our individual gifts and talents to the WHOLE cause and we do it without expecting a pat on the back, or expecting to be the Chief, or sulking like a child somewhere when we don’t get it. It’s time for Black America to grow up, quit buying things and acquire assets….I’m ready. Are you?

Spike Webb said:

To #202 aka ODDONE–very good name because you are an clueless idiot!!! If a White person heckled Chris Rock or another Black comedian they wouldn’t degrade the person’s race like some ignorant bigot; they’d bounce on the person in a comedic manner–something Michael Richards as a professional comedian should have known how to do, instead of ranting like the Grand Dragon of the KKK; Richards could’ve said, e.i. “Hey, I made millions of dollars playing some dumb character on some silly TV sitcom–how much money do you make working at Wal-Mart (no offense to Wal-Mart workers, this is just an example)? Also, White people don’t refer to themselves as “European-Americans”–people specify like Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans or Polish-Americans. The world isn’t Black and White. Havn’t you heard folks refer to themselves as Asian-Americans or Mexican-Americans??? Pull your head out of your ass and pay attention. When I watched the Michael Richards’ pathetic breakdown the first thing I thought of was, “Now, I have to listen to a bunch of stupid analogies by people.”

Because i have an opinion different from urs… u go off… thats not terribly intelligent… maybe if u all stop the racial classification we’ll all be better off…

JQUEEN… last comment cool…

#309 well said

TAWANNA #285 You sound like a c++t.

Unbelievable! It doesn’t matter how many times or who says it - I hate the ‘N’ word and will never let it be a part of my vocabulary. Richards said what he meant and what he was thinking. His weak azz apology is not excepted and hopefully his career (which is in the trash anyway), will go further down in the heap!

To #202 aka ODDONE; Hey, I’m sorry if I offended you with my comments; that’s the problem writing these comments, sometimes our words come off more potent then we want to or realize. I re-read your post and I respect you opinion, it’s just it seemed so Black and White and the world has a lot of gray in my opinion. And you’re right; we need to stop labeling everyone and putting people in catagories but unfortunately this is America and we have to put people in different “Tuperware” like left overs. And that is sad. Again, sorry, I’m not an obnoxious guy.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QgmCBKPHnSY

I don’t know this man but a white man’s true colors always come out……and they always try to blame alcohol for their extremely rude, childish behavior. Nope, not buying it! You done Kramer!

I AM OUTRAGED AND APPALLED!!! I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT HE WOULD TRY USING A WEAK APOLOGY ON THE LATE SHOW AS A WAY TO DIFFUSE THE SITUATION!!! ED SULLIVAN IS PROBABLY A RACIST HIMSELF! THEY MADE A MOCKERY OF THE WHOLE SITUATION!! ALONG WITH JERRY SEINFELD’S DUMB A$$!! ON STAGE SNICKERING LIKE THE STUFF WAS A JOKE!! SOMEONE SHOULD STRING KRAMER’S A$$ UP SO WE CAN ALL STICK OUR “NIGGER” FEET UP HIS WHITE A$$…!! TRUE ENOUGH THE WORD SHOULDNT BE USED REGARDLESS…B/C IT’S DEMEANING AND DEGRADING TO US AS A PEOPLE BECAUSE OF ITS ORIGIN AND HISTORY….BUT IT’S THE OF PRINCIPLE OF IT ALL…..!!!

MAN I AM TOO THRU!!

In conclusion, HOLLYWOOD is full of racist and ignorant people. It’s the people behind the tv shows, castings, directing, acting, music industry, and etc. This is nothing new to me. The media is controlled by these people and is continuously feeding discrimination everywhere. I think it’s awkward that (WHITES/JEWS) were “angrier” at MEL GIBSON’S alleged words of antisemitism. I saw and overheard alot of white people getting angry about what they werent even certain about. DID MEL SaY it or Not, there is NO PROOF but HE-SAY SHE SAY? But Jews have a right to be mad and not Blacks? That’s crazy!! But thats to show you WHO runs the media circuit and who gets to choose whats important and what’s irrelevant. Well, “WE the PEOPLE” really have no voice or power when it comes to the industry. It’s the Black celebrities that need to voice emotions and etc. Now is the time to hear what relevant responses Beyonce, Denzel, Will S.,Oprah and others have to say with THEIR POWER.

kramer kid has alot of shit coming to him i wonder how tight his security is?

I am really not surprised by this. Push people hard enough, and their true feelings will always come out. I don’t buy his sorry excuse for a second. If he’s not racist, why is the first thing out of his mouth racially derogatory? That said, black people need to stop using the “N” word too. No matter how it is spelt, or in what context it is used, the word is offensive as hell!

REALLY I THINK THATS HOW MOST WHITE FOLKS FEEL INSIDE U KNOW BUT OK IF A BLACK PERSON WAS ON COMIC VIEW CALLING SOME “WHITE PERSON” IN THE CROWD A “CRACKER” OR MAKING ALL KINDS OF RACIAL COOMENTS IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A DIFFERENT STORY YEAH THEY PROBABLY WOULD HAVE ARRESTED HIM BUT HE JUST WENT TO FAR WITH THE LYNCHING THING YEP BUT HE PROBABLY WAS A LIL TIPSY

I’m a white person and I was incredibly offended by what Kramer said. I read a lot of posts and notice a lot of black people think thats what most white people think about blacks - NOT TRUE. I was appalled by what he said and can’t believe he didn’t get his a** whooped right on stage. His apology is total BS. Just assuming thats how we all think doesn’t help society in a positive way at all.

Cosign on 327…

First Mel now this? The closet just keeps opening wider and wider; not that anyone should be surprised. Richards is a professional comedian and he should be used to the hecklers by now given his years in the business. To have said what he said and with so much venom and hate was no accident. You dont just become racist by accident. But good on Paul Rodriguez calling him on it publicly and breaking it down - Seinfeld certainly wont.

OKAY DIS IS 4 EVERYBODY ON HERE: NIGGER IS AN IGNORANT PERSON.NIGGA IS SOMETHIN DAT US BLACK PPL USE 2 GREET ONE ANOTHA, OR WHATEVA PURPOSE WE USED IT 4 WHEN WE TALK. THESE ARE 2 DIFFERENT WORDS WHICH PPL ON HERE ARE STILL NOT GITTIN. WHITE PPL B ASKIN WELL BLACK PPL SAY DA N WORD Y CAN’T WE SAY IT. BECAUSE, YALL JUS CAN’T SAY IT SIMPLE AS THAT. YEAH U CAN GOIN HAD AND SAY IT 2 A BLACK PERSON, WHEN U WAKE UP IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM THAT’S GOIN B ON U.

YEAH I USE DA N WORD WHEN IM AROUND MY PPL, NOT WHEN IM AROUND WHITE PPL.

NOW SOME WHITE PPL ARE SMART ENOUGH 2 SAY DA SHIT WHEN WE CAN’T HERE. THEY CAN SAY DA SHIT A HUNDRED 2MES 2 EACH OTHA BUT IF I HERE EM IM GOIN BEAT DA SHIT OUT OF EM. DATS ALL I GOTTA SAY ABOUT. IF I WUZ ONE OF THEM BLACK DUDES I WOULDA BEAT DA SHIT OUTTA DAT FUCKER 4 REAL. I KNO YALL HEARD SOME OF THOSE WHITE PPL OOHIN CUZ DEY KNEW WUT WUZ GOIN HAPPEN.

ERRBODY DON’T GET MAD AT ME IM JUS BEIN 4 REAL

sexysequence:
Thanks for the education…but I am still trying figure where the line is drawn..can latinos say it?can asians say it? is that okay?

@ JQueen….I’m Down wit u!!!

I believe that’s what A LOT of white people think about us. When I’ve heard/hear white people say some fucked up shit to my people, they’re always in a group or while they’re driving by they’ll holler out “Nigger!” while speeding away. They know they have the law on their side because if one of them is stupid enough to say it to your face and stand there, once you start stompin them into a puddle of white goo, you’re the one sitting in the back of the police car while their white asses are pressing charges. Violence doesn’t solve anything, although it’ll make you feel some temporary relief. So now we as black people need to start thinking with our heads and hit them where it hurts, in their finances. Black people are the biggest consumers in this country, but yet we have no assets (house,stock, savings…)White people, or any people can and will say or do whatever fucked up shit they can because in the end everybody answers to God and he will fix you in a way that no human can!

^^^^^^
I meant that when it comes to the percentage of Blacks having savings, property and stuff the numbers are low.

I am totally offended by what he did. It’s sad that in 2006, he thinks it’s ok to say those words and worst, those jokes. Those are his true feeling; he feels that a black person can’t enterupt a white man without being attacked lol lol lol. The lord knows all and will place judgement according, but more importantly, we (black people) need to stop saying the N word to eachother and thats real, rather you want to hear it or not. The Laugh Factory should have took action sooner, so they’re just as much to blame. Blessing

I really can’t believe that this shit happen and I feel that Kramer has open up a comfort door to a lot a white people who want to use the word “Nigger” so bad (but I betcha they asses will never get that bold and say it to a black persons face.) You should read some other blogs especially Youtube where there are white racist people on there that’s really happy that Kramer did this and now that using the word frequently bcuz they asses are secured behind a computer screen.

-What a lot of people fail to realize is that in the United States by law, blacks cannot be racist bcuz we stand as a minority, we do not have the power. Yes, we can be insensitive and degrading but we cannot be racist.

-The word “Nigger” is never used by the black race bcuz it’s an insult and it’s a derogatory name. We use the word “Nigga” for correlation, it’s a word that we use for bonding, not to insult one another so please understand that.

-When a white person uses the word they use it out of anger and to insult a black person. They don’t use it to joke around or for bonding, so it doesn’t make it okay for them to utilize it.

-….And for the people who don’t know, that only reason why those men heckled Kramer is because he made a racist comment about blacks and the mexs first. He said “Oh I see that the black people and mexs are here now, oh lord”. The guys proceed and didn’t say anything to him. Then Kramer proceed and shot a bird and said “Fuck you nigger” and that’s when the black guys held out “You’re not funny” and Kramer got made and went into a tirade, so that’s why is life is pretty much over and he got a ass whoopin’ waitin’ for him by Jamie. Foxx

#22 we all know that the n- word is used to hurt all african americans feelings, what he said was wrong and completely out of line I don’t care who uses this trashy word. Anyone who uses this word in public should be fined.

I’m white. I don’t hate blacks, I have black friends (hell, I even dated one) I’m not a racist and never actually said something racist… However, I did think (in my head) things like “had to be black” or “damn that’s mad ghetto”… Bottom line is, Kramer lost it… he said really harsh stuff, but I heard him appologize on the Late Show and I can see that he was honest about it… SHIT HAPPENS!

BrittanyMo u couldn’t have said it betta.

man we have to understand dat racism is still alive.i go 2 a school in PA were 90% is white while 10% is black, i never lived out of ny so its a new experience but im in da school just thinkin that da min one of them come out there face and call me da n word its a wrap.all i know is dat were 2 comfortable with the word so they are starting to feel comfortable with the word.check dis website out and spread da info not da word http://www.abolishthenword.com

@22. his comments were definitely directed at the entire race of black people. like he said “50 years ago….” yeah, the things that white people did to us back then were not personal. they were not directed at only the individual. thats why whenever they linked a black person (man or woman), they referred to it as lynching a nigger or lyinching a nigger bitch. not lynching ella may or lynching john. it was not personal; it was the entire race. on the outside, things seemed to have changed. but, deep down, white people still feel the same fucking way. like i always say and like Celie said in “the color purple,” the more things change, the more they stay the same.

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