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RUMOR: BRANDY GETS IN BRAWL AT BIBLE STUDY?

Thursday, November 2, 2006

brandy_brawl.jpgI know I’m late as hell with posting this, my bad! Jawn Murray e-mailed me this story earlier this week, and it’s funny as hell.

I’m sure all of you know that Brandy is real into ‘The Church of Scientology’. Word is that it was one of the main reasons why Quentin Richardson dumped her. Well it’s also the reason a fight popped off at her bible study class last week. According to Murray:

He got a phone call from a friend informing him of a physical altercation that had jumped off last Wednesday pitting Brandy and her girlfriends against members of First A.M.E. (FAME) Church during a Bible study class.

The singer rolled up to the South L.A. church with her friends after having just come from a Scientology meeting. Brandy and company, who are not members of the church, reportedly began challenging some of the Christian principles taught in the Bible class, including a question about lust.

Suddenly, according to Murray’s source, a fight broke out between her friends and the church folk. Chairs were flying, curse words were being dropped, and Brandy reportedly knocked over some chairs on her way out of the building.

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151.

jewell

Thursday, November 2, 2006 /

I don’t know if I believe this. Something about the story just doesn’t even sound right.

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with questioning the Bible. God wants us to ask Him questions so that He can reveal deeper truths and give us more understanding of His Word.

One thing I’ve learned is that we as Christians should NEVER ARGUE about the truth/validity of the Bible….WHY??? Because TRUTH does NOT have to be argued…

We won’t always have all the answers when someone questions us about our faith. But the great thing about it is that it pushes us closer to God because it challenges us to think and pray and ask God for more understanding.

It’s nice to see the people of CL able to discuss/debate about God/faith without getting rude with others.

152.

timmdogg

Thursday, November 2, 2006 /

Once again, as big as her forehead is , she should have sensed danger like Spiderman…LOL!

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chris's girl

Thursday, November 2, 2006 /

i can care less who started all i have to say that last time i checked there is the word opinion i think that some scientology believers try to persuade others that scientology is the way to go we all have different opinions because we are different indiviuals and its not anyones responsibilty but that person to figure out which way to go and what to believe in that goes for church goers to so whatever happened don’t act like that in the house of the Lord that goes for all participants

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LadyMahogany

Thursday, November 2, 2006 /

I don’t agree with Scientology but who am I to tell someone else how to live?If it happened I’m surprised I didn’t hear anything about it,I am a member of Firt AME.Anyway I don’t really believe this story but that’s why it’s called a Rumor.I just pray that Brandy didn’t show her behind in the house of the lord.I know Sonia raised her better than that.

155.

sheneice

Thursday, November 2, 2006 /

I DON’T BELIEVE THIS

156.

sheneice

Thursday, November 2, 2006 /

BRANDY DOES LOOKS PRETTY IN THE PIC

157.

Mara

Thursday, November 2, 2006 /

Brandddy! Please..its church!

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Damien

Thursday, November 2, 2006 /

IF this is true then why didn’t we see Brandy on the Sick and shut in list? Her being a celeb this would have been on somebody’s news. I don’t buy this at all.

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Afro

Thursday, November 2, 2006 /

Brandy’s a slut.

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judah

Thursday, November 2, 2006 /

@MizzLizz & PittBoi (The Michael Jackson/El Debarge look is so YOU) & Whoever….I know you’ve been waiting with baited breath, LMAO. Every negro doesn’t have time to type on his plantation.

I hope that this rumor is not true. Not the part about Brandy challenging the church, but about the churchgoers becoming violent. There is a difference between militance and violence. Christ was viewed as a militant leader for his time (Luke 22:36, John 18:36). That’s why the pharisees accused him of being a “king” to the Romans, which was the equivalent of terrorist during that period. I know for a fact, based on experience, that christians (especially black christians) become very emotional (James 1:26) when you confront them on their beliefs because they do not study the word or the history. They rant about the “love of God” and the “love of Christ” and they cannot define either one according to what the scripture says (I John 5:3), which is the manual for our faith. When you confront them with scriptures that cut their belovedly misunderstood John 3:16 (John 17:9, Luke 2:1, Isaiah 45:17, etc.) you better be prepared to lay niggas out, lol.
Me and my brothers have had confrontations with Christians, Muslims, Hindus, etc. and the one common theme is the massive ignorance concerning the history of your own beliefs (Isa 60:1,2). It’s sad really. The realization is that if these people were not so ignorant then the prophecies would not be fulfilled.
From my research, Scientology is a front for satanic worship and I say that based on the fact that L. Ron Hubbard was a student of and congregation member of Aleister Crowley’s L.A. branch of satanic worship. You can throw that damn kabbalah in there too. If you’re at all attuned with the Most High, that’s not difficult to figure out.
If I was taught that God “loved everybody” no matter wahat, and I had a functioning brain to see what was going on around me, I would still be searching for the truth also (John 17:17). This manifestation of the word is an adulterated one re-taught to blacks and hispanics by caucasians to program us to view them as Christ, Mary, David, etc.

Here are some BASIC questions for the christian church:

1)If Christ and his followers “loved” everybody, than how come they ended up martyred? (When you read the Bible, the pharisees were the ones that had a good relationship with the Roman government, not Christ. Notice that the caucasian politicians run to the big black churches during election time, showing you that these pastors have been cut into the deal)

2)What does Christmas or Easter have to do with Christ in any way shape or form? Where in the Bible does it say that Christ was born on Dec. 25? Why do you celebrate Christ’s resurrection on Easter Sunday, two days after Good Friday when the BIBLE said that Christ would be in the earth for 3 days and 3 nights?

3)Why are ya’ll so scared to read the Old Testament when Christ tells you that he is the fulfillment of the Old Testament? Are you scared you might have to do some *gasp*….RESEARCH? Or are you scared that you might read some scriptures where the Lord expounds on qualities other than the “love” that you like to speak on (Ex 15:3, Mal 1:2-4, etc.)?

lastly @Bill #96
There’s nothing wrong with debating the word of the Lord. Christ, Paul, Stephen. etc. were MASTER debaters. That’s why the people would become frustrated and stone them, lol. All Paul meant was that you cannot waste your time on gainsayers. The portion on endless geneaologies was because those brothers were looking for scattered Israelites and they were trying to ascertain their lineage (Job 8:8). Paul was just saying don’t go too deep because, like negroes and hipanics today, alot of people didn’t know past a certain generation who their ancestors were.

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Nikkiki

Thursday, November 2, 2006 /

Oh no!..Not Brandy!

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Tamara

Thursday, November 2, 2006 /

First let me say, Brandy’s skin is greasy looking like a piece of Golden Bird chicken. But that’s neither here nor there. What’s important is that the bitch obviously has flipped one of those tired ass wigs she be rockin. When she first came out, she was a (Christian)church girl, thanking the Lord if she so much as farted. What the hell happened?

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kennise nicole

Thursday, November 2, 2006 /

#74 Deontea, I understand that u like brandy and all but it is obvious that ur from mississippi because your spelling is poor and your grammer is too

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Tammy

Thursday, November 2, 2006 /

-Very Late…but to the person who asked the masturbation question(Ms_Mac1 I do believe), the answer is that in those days they believed that sperm were actually microscopic fully formed human beings and that if you masturbated you would be committing murder…this obviously applies to males only but for women I think it had to do with them being seen as property and if their “fires” were put out then they wouldn’t be in the mood to have sex with their husbands(masters). If you are thinking it doesn’t make sense then you are correct, no disrespect but a lot of the “rules” that were edited into the Bible were written by men to achieve their own agendas. Remember this is the same book that was used to justify women being property and black people as 3/5 human.

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sassy

Thursday, November 2, 2006 /

Lmfao @ somebody sayin she got asian in her, just cuz she got tight eyes….wtf? that don’t mean shit…my eyes are tight as hell and i’m black as all hell….lmfao…her eyes are tight from them raggedy ass braids she use to wear….cuz her eyes were big as hell when she was younger lmfaooooo

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deontea

Thursday, November 2, 2006 /

yeah I’m form Mississippi and I proud to be. People form the south are know different form yall accept we talk a little different that it. But I can understand why you would try to attack me personally when I haven’t said anything to you, about you or about anyone else on this post everyone make mistake and have a couple of misspells did you read some of the other opinions

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romeo

Thursday, November 2, 2006 /

trashy! i said i heard she had asian in her i didn’t say that i knew that she was asian,and anit nobody comparing you black ass to brandy i get so damn sick of bitches like yourself actin asif you know ever funkin thing about someone when in reality you don’t know shit about the person

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romeo

Friday, November 3, 2006 /

So what if her skin looks greasy, she still looks beautiful in this picture
Someone all ways have to hate this girl no mattle what it just don’t make
No sense how some black women are no wonder a lot of black men are
Leaven you for white women

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Damien

Friday, November 3, 2006 /

Romeo I wouldn’t leave a black woman because she makes statements like that. White women talk shyt about their people just as much as blacks an any other race so if we diss a black woman for a white one, we maybe a bit insecure and weak.

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pittbboi

Friday, November 3, 2006 /

Judah:

Don’t kid yourself. I wasn’t waiting around for you. Strangely enough, we agree on this subject. Though I’m really not all that surprised.

Though, I do have a question…how do you know the bible so well? It’s the *only* thing I won’t try too hard to debate with you. Are you a pastor or something? lol. I know you don’t have to be a pastor to know the Word, but I figure you’re more than just a casual/devout reader.

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Tamara

Friday, November 3, 2006 /

Thank you Damien. Romeo needs to chill the fuck out. It’s a blog hello!!! say what we want and type what we feel. It’s for entertainment. It is not the law. There will be no new bible based on this shit. Damn, you act like yu fuckin her, gettin all defensive. So what if we mention her oily skin, the face that her last two albums bombed and he so-called husband said she was just a rebound who got pregnant accidently and he never wanted her in the first place…They’re just words, right?

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Tu-Tu

Friday, November 3, 2006 /

I seen behind the music or E True Hollywood story and everyone that knew Brandy as a child said how she was so into the Lord and wanted to please him. They should her singing gospel and it really seemed like she dedicated her life to him but it seems like everytime a person gets a little celebrity and feel like they all of that they change religions. Now Brandy wants to get mad at other people because of what they believe in! No one questioned her about Scientology and she rolled up looking for trouble at a Christian Church.

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Esha

Friday, November 3, 2006 /

Oh she going to hell! You don’t fight in the house of the Lord, trying to prove a point.

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ms_mac1

Friday, November 3, 2006 /

“@MizzLizz & PittBoi (The Michael Jackson/El Debarge look is so YOU) & Whoever….I know you’ve been waiting with baited breath, LMAO. Every negro doesn’t have time to type on his plantation.”

@ Judah, If your little snide comment was directed at me let me just say that you should learn to not speak out of both sides of your mouth. If “Every negro doesn’t have time to type on his plantation” why are you writing a book?

Don’t get it twisted just because I mentioned your name. You’re not that deep. Trust. People remeber the taste of vinegar as easily as they remember the taste of honey.

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sweet_bliss

Friday, November 3, 2006 /

A religon post I’ll stay away…just breezing through

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MrsDawsondn

Friday, November 3, 2006 /

JUDAH in response to your basic questions:

Here are some BASIC questions for the christian church:

1)If Christ and his followers “loved” everybody, than how come they ended up martyred? (When you read the Bible, the pharisees were the ones that had a good relationship with the Roman government, not Christ. Notice that the caucasian politicians run to the big black churches during election time, showing you that these pastors have been cut into the deal)

They ended up Martyred because they stood for the truth of the word and dispelled all the heresy about Jesus Christ. They brought TRUTH to Light. perfect example of that is the FIRST martyred spoken of in the Bible Stephen
Acts 6:10 (Whole Chapter)
None of them could stand against the wisdom and the Spirit with which Stephen spoke.

It does NOT say that he debated with them in the book of. They spoke the truth about Jesus Christ but there was never a thing of my religion is better than your religion because judiasm is where Christianity is derived from it’s roots so to speak . Jesus said he didn’t come to do away with the law but rather to fulfill it. So i don’t know what you are talking about christians refusing to adhere to the old testament and only living under the new. The Law was never done away with but rather it was fulfilled. If your going to eat the Word eat the whole loaf not just bits and parts of it.

When you bring TRUTH to light no one wants to hear it. But you must speak the TRUTH in love so yes love is relevant. As I said before I have meekness but don’t mistake it for weakness. Yes i LOVE as a christian…follower of Christ but I am nobody’s doormat either. And as I stated before I don’t agree with the voilence because that is nothing but a defensive response to allegations. If you know what you believe there is no need to debate it. Point blank period. you can enlighten or even ask questions but it’s your intention behind it that will be discerned as sincerely wanting to know or belittling anothers faith or belief.

You do the math.

I would waste my time replying to your other questions that obviously you OUGHT to know the answers to but I refuse to waste my energy on your arrogant accusations.

BTW what exactly DO you believe, cause you sure confuse the heck out of me. BTW you got alot of HATE in your heart Homie. You might wanna check that….

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Meatloaf

Friday, November 3, 2006 /

@24 Portia said: “She just incoporates Scientology into her faith.”

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That sounds like a man who incoporates a little down low activity into his marriage!

Scientology is a religious cult! Plain and simple! They sit and watch each other die rather than getting a damn shot of penicillin!

They who worship God, must do so in Spirit…not in science!
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#117 she-ra said it all!

Pity needs to STFU! He sounds like one of the Southern California sissies living on the X-list!

Gays and scientologist go hand in hand! Their strange bed-fellows who both have a need to discredit the Bible, because it strikes at the core of their immoral behavior! Pityful searches the bible to find at least one thing questionable, so he can justify homosexual trash!

#111 Bill & ms_mac ~

Your explination to ms-mac lays a good foundation, but I would add, the word masturbation implies erotic stimulation of one’s own genital organs! When someone else stimulate another persons genital organs, its called a “hand job”! Masturbation is a form of self-mutilation! The more you do it, the more you will reduce the force and intensity of sexual intercourse! And, you could go blind! hehe!

Oral sex is the reason Adam and Eve got driven from the garden of Eden! Pussy is the tree of life! lol Blood provides a strong environment for germs to grow and once a month…you’ll a brother will get real sick eating from the bush! Hmmm?

Remember, the LORD God sent them forth from the garden of Eden after they had eaten from the tree of good and evil, “lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever…!

God made the genital for doing your business (#1 & 2), sexual intercourse between a man and woman and giving birth! Not oral, not anal, not pity & brian, not Missy and Queen, not Adam and Steve, not pity and sheep!

I gave you some seriousness and humor, because I want to hear your response after you give it some thought!

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foxxy380

Friday, November 3, 2006 /

I said “And you said Brandy is a Christian…I didn’t think Christians practice scientology. Christians believe that God, not science, created man and woman. If you don’t believe that, then how can you call yourself a Christian.”

#139 said “Scientology has absolutely nothing to do with science. There is no empirical data on body thetans and xenu the galactic overload.”

I never said that it did. I have a co-worker who practices scientology and she is always questioning me on why I think God created heaven and earth and not science. Is it only b/c that’s what the bible states? So I figured most of the people who practice scientology think the same way. That was my only reason for that statement. But if I am wrong, then just lynch me….d@mn! I am ignorant when it comes to scientology because I really don’t know and don’t care to know what they practice or believe.

You said “you are right about just having faith in God and anything is possible (the christian version), except massive starvation in Africa, children being raped and abused all over the globe etc.”

Is that you Satan? Satan, I rebuke you! Satan, you are a lie all the way down to the pits of hell!!!

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judah

Saturday, November 4, 2006 /

@#170 PittBoi,
No, I’m not a pastor. I’m just a very young man with an old spirit. I believe that many young black and hispanic men and women, like Brandy, are looking for real actual anwsers to our place in this world and the church is pitifully underqualified to give it to them. It’s to the point where they’re being driven to satanism because older negroes are too embarassed to admit that they’ve passed down lies to their children as truths. By the way nigga, you know you was waiting for my take on this, don’t front. LOL. I knew since the Patti LaBelle thread that you knew better than to get at me with the Word of the Lord, lol.

@#174 Ms.Mac
I apologize to you sis if you misconstrued my statement. It was in jest, lol. Furthermore I didn’t even know that you mentioned my name at all. I don’t read most of these comments. They’re usually repetitive. But in all seriousness, I don’t have to think to write any “books”, lol. It comes naturally. As far as me being “deep”, sis, my confidence(through the spirit of the Most High and Christ) is far too high for any man or woman to add to it or take from it so don’t waste your finger muscles, lol. The Scriptures and our history is deep; I’m just a man.

@#176 MRSDAWSONDN
Look sis, I’m not gonna play wordgames with you. I know that it’s a trend in the church for the women to try to teach the Word to men but spare me, please (I Tim 2:11-14, I Cor 14:34,35). It’s obvious that the Word was debated or as the Bible says DISPUTED, (Matt 22:14-46, Acts 6:8-10, 17:16,17, 19:6-10, etc.). If you can’t see that, I don’t know what to tell you. I’m also not going to strive with you about the Law sis because there are 613 of them and I’d bet that if I told you basic things like wearing a dress you’d get offended.
Sis, don’t play yourself, lmao. You couldn’t answer the one question that you tried to answer adequately and you knew better than to try to anwser the other two, lol. You and I both know that YOU DON’T KNOW WHY YOU CELEBRATE CHRIST’S BIRTHDAY ON DEC.25. Let me help you…it’s a pagan custom that you’re keeping (Jer 10:1-5). That’s how you know that the church system is nothing but an institutionalized cult. Tell me what Easter has to do with Christ’s resurrection. Nothing. You’re commemorating Ishtar/Diana/Isis a.k.a. the “Queen of Heaven” (Jer 44:15-20, Acts 19:24-41). Please tell me why in the church Easter is 2 days after Christ’s death as opposed to the 3 of the Bible (Matt 12:40)?

YOU DO THE MATH, LMAO.

This time don’t respond if you can’t respond.

I’ve said this before, your hate is my truth. Lol
(JER 6:10,11, Psa 139:21,22)

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bill

Saturday, November 4, 2006 /

on Friday, November 3, 2006 @ 10:17 am

Meatloaf said:
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#111 Bill & ms_mac ~

Your explination to ms-mac lays a good foundation, but I would add, the word masturbation implies erotic stimulation of one’s own genital organs! When someone else stimulate another persons genital organs, its called a “hand job”! Masturbation is a form of self-mutilation! The more you do it, the more you will reduce the force and intensity of sexual intercourse! And, you could go blind! hehe!

Oral sex is the reason Adam and Eve got driven from the garden of Eden! Pussy is the tree of life! lol Blood provides a strong environment for germs to grow and once a month…you’ll a brother will get real sick eating from the bush! Hmmm?

Remember, the LORD God sent them forth from the garden of Eden after they had eaten from the tree of good and evil, “lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever…!

God made the genital for doing your business (#1 & 2), sexual intercourse between a man and woman and giving birth! Not oral, not anal, not pity & brian, not Missy and Queen, not Adam and Steve, not pity and sheep!

I gave you some seriousness and humor, because I want to hear your response after you give it some thought!

Bill Said:

My Brother, You know I would like to provide an accurate answer for you, and I will admit if I’m wrong but…..

I have not SEEN anywhere in the scripture where God forbids Man & wife to have Oral Sex.

If You know something that I do not know, please educate me.

Please provide scripture (Chapter & Verse) to backup your viewpoint on ORAL SEX

Reprectfully, Your Brother & your Boy,
Bill

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tavion kiethagone'

Saturday, November 4, 2006 /

is not true bitches… dont belived everything u read bout…
here some fact, wat really gone down…

BRANDY’S REP RESPONDS TO CHURCH BRAWL STORY: A ruckus took place, but Brandy was not involved.
(November 3, 2006)
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*A spokesperson for Brandy called EUR’s Lee Bailey to set the record straight about entertainment journalist Jawn Murray’s report regarding Brandy and a Bible study brawl.

As previously reported, Murray told the Tom Joyner Morning Show that the R&B singer had just left a Scientology meeting before attending the class at First A.M.E. church in Los Angeles. According to Murray, Brandy was challenging some of the principles of Christianity, and a fight suddenly broke out after one question too many. And after chairs and curse words were thrown, Brandy and her crew were escorted out of the church.

According to Brandy’s rep Courtney Barnes, “the whole middle portion of the story is bullsh*t.” He says that the ruckus Murray referred to in his story involved a mentally-ill person at the church who had tried to cause trouble with “a person who had come in with Brandy.”

Here is Barnes’ account, verbatim, to Lee Bailey.

BARNES: Brandy did not come to the church from a Scientology meeting. She was invited to the church by a member of the church to attend a Bible study. She did so because she’s very interested in religion.

There was not a fight that broke out between Brandy and her friends. The Bible study went on as normal and there were questions being asked back and forth. The Bible study ended, and the person who was conducting the Bible study asked the congregation to bow their heads and pray.

There was a mentally ill person who was in the back of the room where the Bible study was taking place. That person was seated next to a person who came to the Bible study with Brandy, but was not seated next to [Brandy]. That person was clearly – by all accounts, by the person who was seated there and all the people in the church – a mentally-ill person. And that person had an episode and he tried to basically cause a fight with the person who had come in with Brandy.

The person who had come in with Brandy, recognizing that the person was mentally-ill, called upon the elders of the church to come and get this person under control. In the course of them doing so, a ruckus was caused. They ended up escorting that person out of the church.

After that was over, they continued to pray. At that point, the session was over and everyone involved with the session left.

BAILEY: SO BRANDY WASN’T ESCORTED OUT AND ASKED TO LEAVE?

No she wasn’t even personally involved with the ruckus that occurred. It was a person who came in with her who was not seated near her. …I guess that’s where Jawn is getting this whole thing where a fight broke out between her friends.

HOW HAS THIS WHOLE THING AFFECTED BRANDY?

She’s not happy that this is the way the story is being reported. But over and above that, she wants the truth out there.

DOES BRANDY STUDY SCIENTOLOGY?

No. She’s taken some classes, but she has no formal relationship with Scientology. She was at First AME for a Bible study and she was invited by a member of the church.

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SexyQB

Tuesday, November 7, 2006 /

Now this heifer know she was raised as a southern baptist in Mississippi. She need to get her life right and quit trippin’. Plus she keep rollin’ up on people and one of those saved sista at the church is gonna smack her frail butt back to Mississippi.

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bru-know

Friday, November 17, 2006 /

AT #100-102 LOOKIN FINE AS USUAL MIZZ-LIZZ.
If you want ANSWERS you might want to study with a JEHOVA WITNESS.i know,i know the MEDIA and public at large trys to make them out to be some kind of CULT,but they TEACH you how to RESEARCH out(the BIBLE) any question yourself so not GET any outher persons SLANT on the QUESTION.They also(to my knoledge)have the most organized congregation as to where the weekly lessons are the same TOPIC where ever KINGDOM HALL you attend and the best part is they pass a mike around and let the kids and audience answer the questions.
They don’t PRESSURE you for MONEY(give if you can),
BUT ain’t no HALF STEPPIN they will give you a mentor to study TWICE A WEEK rain or shine helpin you STUDY till you are able to become a WITNESS and spread the word yourself
They disassocieted MY ASS cause i wasn’t TOTALLY committed in my WAYS and after a certain point YOUR BEHAVIOR represents every WITNESS but they have a BEAUTIFUL THING GOINg and thier HUMANITARIAN MISSION is world wide based NEW YORK,but they so humble you’ll
never hear them BRAG.
SORRY about the length just tryin to HELP you SPIRITUALLY………………………..PIECE OUT

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kelly

Tuesday, February 27, 2007 /

now brandy lets not act like that. she needs to star acting like a celebrity role model then a street role model

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MALIKAH

Saturday, December 29, 2007 /

WHAT EVER HAPPENED AT THE CHURCH NEEDS TO STAY IB THE CHURCH CAUSE THAT IS A GOOD PLACE TO GET ALL YOUR ANGER OUT SO YOU WONT TAKE IT OUT IN SOMEONE ELSE UNLIKE SHE DID

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