The Flavor of Love blog always stays on top of anything FOL related, so when I saw the link to Karu F. Daniels’ ‘New York’ interview, you know I had to post it.
Also, make sure you watch “I Love New York” when it airs tonight on VH1.
So are you from Rochester or Syracuse?
You know what baby? Actually I’m from upstate New York, New Hartford New York. So that’s even farther up there. It’s past Buffalo, it’s cold, it’s just a weary little city.And now you’re putting Upstate New York on the map.
You know what baby? Yes. I’m definitely putting Upstate New York on the map and I’m happy to do it.You’ve been described as the “Grand Diva of Arbitrary Emotions.”
What? Are you serious?Well that’s what it says on VH1.
Well you know what baby, I really don’t go on the ‘net that much because I don’t have that much time to do stuff like that. But if that is out there for me, you know I’ll take it. I’ll be that. I’m that then. Okay.It’s all about the internet.
It truly is. I should be ashamed of myself but I’m not. I don’t really get online as much as I should but that’s a great title to hold.What do you in your pastime?
In my spare time, I’m basically giving a lot of attention to my nails and my skin. I’m a real huge skin person. I’m constantly washing my face making sure it’s clear and clean and making sure my nails are clean. I’m just a big skin and nails person. I hope that doesn’t sound too weird but that’s what I do in my spare time — making sure that everything is on the up and up.You save that for ‘Essence’ magazine.
What? (laughing loudly)
What was your life like before all of this television stuff? Were you an aspiring actress or something like that?
Seriously, yes I was. I was an aspiring actress. And I still am. Basically nothing has changed since the show except the recognition. Now when I walk down the street I’m easily recognized. I mean that’s the only thing that has changed in my life.Who is Tiffany Pollard and who is Tiffany Patterson. You’re referred to one or the other and I’m confused? What’s the difference between the two of them?
Well you know I am here to set the record. Tiffany Pollard P-O-L-L-A-R-D, that’s me. That’s my last name and that’s who I am. Tiffany Patterson is basically, uh (pause) well I could tell you how that went about; My mom and my dad aren’t married. My mom’s last name is Patterson but I’m carrying my father’s last name. That’s the name I grew up so that’s my real name, Tiffany Pollard.Well what exactly are you looking for outside of just “a man”? What qualities were you seeking when you were filming this?
That’s a great question. When we were filming the producers they wanted to know what was my type, in terms of looks. For me, I don’t really have a type when it comes down to looks.Well after you pined for Flavor Flav, you obviously don’t.
(scream) You know what, I ain’t even going there with you. I’m going to leave that alone.I love Flav and I think he’s hilarious. But come on.
He’s styling, he’s cute and everybody (pause) is beautiful in their own way. But [for] me, my type is someone that meshes well with my inner being — someone who can deal with the fact that sometimes I have my days when I’m problematic and sometimes I’m going to have my days when I’m going to be on his side. Someone that can definitely take me on as a whole. That’s what I was looking for.So it’s not a physical thing?
Oh, absolutely not. Looks never mattered to me.Oh okay because you have a motley mix of guys on this show — from the rooter to the tooter.
You know I had to do it like that.So how long did the show take to produce?
It took about a good three and a half [weeks], I’ll say.So it’s going to be packaged. And how many episodes are we getting?
You guys are going to get ten luscious episodes.
#180 ninagirl1, I have read all of your posts on this thread. In all seriousness, serious question, Are you trying to:
1. Play ‘devils advocate’, and make senseless statements for the sake of arguement? or
2. Trying to be coy and funny? or
3. Really BELIEVE what you have been writing?
Maybe I am lost to the joke or something, because you really can’t be for real…like ‘for real for real’. Right?
Windwalker….I agree with you. I am starting to believe that Ninagirl is indeed playing devil’s advocate or being contrary just for sport. I refuse to believe that any enlightened, well-read black person (and by well-read I’m not talking about Vibe, Essence or Ebony magazines) would believe that garbage she is typing.
Because you seem to have completely missed the mark Ninagirl, the subject of my post is not about individual career successes, but about the success and failure of black people as a RACE (meaning as a whole). If anyone cannot/will not understand the correlation between a negative image, lack of self-respect and pride and the progression of a people, then we (meaning ALL of us) truly are in trouble.
Wow Reality_Check
An amazing rebuttal–something I’ve always thought but could not articulate. I lived in Southern France for a year studying. Every time I would go out with my friends, i would always be apporached by nasty french guys who wanted a guick piece. They would sexualize me, call me names like Josophine Baker, Naomi Campbell, Little Kim…I look like none of these women. I was so confused as to why I got these names it seemed so random, then, i was watching televison one night (Canal Plus) and saw these coon shows being aired and dubbed in french. Trust me, the dubbing is even worse, makes us look even more stupid. Instead of seeing me as a PhD candidate in Physics studying in France, they saw me as a loose black negro bitch.
I agree with you 100%. The plight of blacks and the rest of the world is like comparing apples and oranges. We do need to wake up!
Thanks for your well stated post.
To Windwalker, Edub and Reality Check, yes I’m serious. I can relate to Edubs comments about being called Lil Kim etc…bcuz its happened to me b-4 but my hair was in a weave and I may have appeared to resemble the rap star. However, that comment came from a black person on my job. :O
My point is that anyone could say ok 10% of Catholic priest are molesting the boys in the church than assume u cant trust any Catholic priest or if 5% of Caucasian males are pediphiles and serial killers than u would say, generally all of them are sick. We all watch the news everyday and move on. But its not ok to judge one person or ppl in whole bcuz of a small is acting out, thats called racism.
Racism still exist in the new millenia and I agree that its awful. But it wouldnt matter if all of the black t.v. shows that exploit black ppl were banned and all we could watch was the Cosbys or similar shows, even then there would still be racism. All we can do is represent our selves as indivisuals and let our lights shine. U all seem really bitter about this subject and Im sorry that the world has made u all so biased however, ppl will b ppl and evil walks the earth everyday. Instead of complaining about I luv N.Y. likes its such a serious subject lets talk about A.I.D.’s in Africa and the U.S., now thats a problem.
#184, ninagirl1
1. Regarding your resemblance to L’il Kim for one day, your point is irrelevant.
2. Regarding the Catholic Church and little boys, the Church clearly demonstrated that it understands that ‘Image IS Everything’, and worked hard to handle the bullshit (ex: they covered the shit up for years). So, your point is lost.
3. Regarding your point that racism will always be racism, true. But, (a) it doesn’t necessarily have to be as severe as it is (ex: 2007 is presumably better than 1955), nor (b) should black folks do shit that makes the idea of racism seem like ‘logical sense’ (ex: “blacks are stupid and irrelevant, just look at how they act”).
4. Regarding your point that we should be talking about AIDS in Africa. Well, this blog string is about the ‘Flavor of Love and Ms.New York’.
Keep laughing at FlavorFlav, Ms.New York, Jerry Spring shows, Maury shows, and all of the ‘if a black man were President’ movies. You just keep laughing girl. Keep on giggling.
Windwalker u need help if u think ur gonna start a civil right movement based on FOL, ILNY, Maury or Jerry Springer. Im gonna keep on watching all of them. I support black ppl in whatever they do as long as it doesnt hurt anyone. Ur generalization is just that.
#186 I know and realize that this is a FOL, ILNY thread but you can’t help but mention the damaging effects of these kind of shows. I don’t know you, you seem like a person who is proud of who you are. I admire and respect that. However, with your statment that you will support blacks no matter what they do as long as they are not hurting anyone, I have this to say. It hurts me. No, I’m not emotionally scarred and need counseling, but I’m tired of not being viewed as a legitimate human being. I can’t and don’t blame it on FOL and ILNY but they do add to the pot.
#186 Damn, I am absolutely speechless. I guess all I can say at this point is ‘enjoy the shows’, and rest assured that there are more on the horizon, for your ‘entertainment pleasure’. Goodbye.
I agree with 149, 150 & 157
I said it once and I’ll say it again. The way other races look at blacks WILL NEVER CHANGE no matter what program is on TV. And if you any of you think otherwise you need a reality check. I thought the Kramer situation would have been enough validation of that.
How did the show become about black people setting us back 20 years Etc? It’s not that deep there are different races on the show and I can not distinguish one jackass from the next. The show is for entertainment purposes only and I can’t knock Ny’s hustle she is just a squirrel.This show is no different than the other Hams with airtime.
@ 189, Foxxy380 said: “The way other races look at blacks WILL NEVER CHANGE no matter what program is on TV”
hmmm….I wonder where the Jews would be if they adopted that mentality…just a thought.
@ windwalker and Edub, I’m sorry but I’m not debating anymore with this group of blacks who chose to remain in the dark. Its a waste of time and VERY disheartening *shakes head*
I’ll just say this: Enjoy your shows black people. Maybe this season the world will get to witness another black woman taking a shit on the living room floor (ala FOL season 2)….Enjoy!!!
#191, I said ‘goodbye’ last night. The old folks have a saying: “Never argue with children or fools.”
On to the next post…
Its ashame that “MEN” are actually “THAT GULLABLE” & “DESPARATE”…
Out of all the MATURE, BEAUTIFUL, WELL ROUNDED, EDUCATED, “NON SUPERFICIAL” BLACK WOMEN ON THIS EARTH…
NEW YORK?
WTF?
I love New York with her crazy ass!!! I’m gonna watch every episode of I love New York!! Do yo thang girl!!!
How many times is this bitch going to say “You know what Baby” and “What?”
That shit is all scripted. You know what Baby? I wont be watching it.
The shows like Jackass is degrading. I cant believe some of you people out their care what people say about our race. Im a young black African American female and there isn’t anything that the white man could put on tv or do to make me look down on my on race and say that black people or a disgrace. It’s people like Martin Luther King, Malcom X, Rosa Parks etc, that made me a believer. When I look at some of these tv shows I see white people on the dating shows going with the same sex, drinking and acting crazy, and then the show Jackass just takes the cake, it makes me happy to be BLACK. It must be something that the white people like about black people because now adays they are trying so hard to be, and when I see how easy it is for the black people to easily accept them burns me up. Its a bleesing to be black. If any one picked up a history book it was the white people who did something to every single race. LIKE I SAID ITS NOTHING A WHITE MAN CAN DO FOR ME TO PART MY LIPS A SAY BLACK PEOPLE ARE A DISGRACE. IM HAPPY TO BE BLACK. PEACE OUT.
@Reality_Check, WTF does Jews have to do with the comment I made?
I AM TALKING ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE!!!! I am talking about the generation who was in fucking slavery for nearly 400 years, who was owned and controlled, who was stripped of nearly all rights and their freedom, who were not paid for their labor, who were lynched, beaten, raped, whipped. We were looked down on as we weren’t shit then and we are looked down on like we ain’t shit now. Wake the fuck up! And like I said, it has nothing to do with programs that are on TV. Before these programs came on they didn’t think any different.
LOL WHAT IS UP WITH HER IN THAT PICTURE HAHA ANYWAY I THINK THE SHOW IS GOOD SO FAR AS LONG AS SHE KEEPS “CHANCE” ON THERE BECAUSE HE’S LIKE THE COMEDIAN OF THE SHOW IF SHE WOULD’VE GAVE HIM THE BOOT I PROBABLY WOULD’NT HAVE WATCH THAT SHOW ANYMORE I GOTTA KEEP IT REAL BUT… CHANCEAND HIS BROTHER REAL” IS SEXY AS HELL LADIES YA’LL HAVE TO AGREE JUST BECAUSE “CHANCE” HAS A GAP DOASN’T MEAN HE AINT CUTE … CL WHENEVER YA’LL DO GET IN CONTACT WITH CHANCE HAVE HIM TO CALL ME
I don’t like her or that God- awful afro.
THAT FAKE ASS WEAVE LOOK A HOT SHITTY MESS .SHE NEED TO GO GROW HER ON GOT DAMN HAIR AND QUIT WEREIN EVERYONE ELSES, WATS UP WIT HER MOMS SON HER MOM LOOK LIKE A UGLY AZZ GORILLA SHE NEED TO GO PUT HER AZZ BACK IN THE ZOO BEFORE SHE SCARE HER FUTURE GRANDCHILDREN AWAY.AND CHANCE WIT HIS FINE ASS OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEE THATS A FINE PIECE OF CHOCOLATE RITE THERE. AND HIS BROTHER GOT THAT BABY HAIR LIKE WOOOOOOOOO AND ITS LONG SHIIIIIIIT FORGET YO MOMMA I GET THAT RITE THERE. R CHANCE PROBABLY CHANCE.
NEW YORK KEEP DOING YOUR THING GIRL. PEOPLE ARE NOT PAID TO WATCH YOU, SO IF THE HATERS DON’T WANT TO WATCH THEY DON’T HAVE TO. MAYBE THEY SHOULD GET OFF THERE LAZY ASSES AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THEM A REALITY SHOW. THAT’S NOT COONERY OR BAFOONERY. THEY SAT AROUND IT LOVE FLAVA FLAVA SHOW YOU CAN’T GET ANYMORE COON THEN THAT. HE’S LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO THE COON BANK. SO DO YOU. MOM TO.
I have been hearing alot about how you used to weigh over 300lbs? Is that true?
Tiffany, I just saw the reunion show and man did Tango acted like a complete jackass. First he came out challenging Chance to a fight but surprisingly, Chance was not into that. We did not get why he still wanted to fight with them and he had already won. From this moment on we began to have doubts about you chosing him. He started to come of sounding really ignorant. He acted like an old dirty gangster. When he dumped you alot of us hadn’t even understood what he had said until you reacted that’s how dumb he came of. Girlfriend, don’t even worry about that and it don’t make no sense crying over SPOIL MILK. Our mamma’s have a saying and it goes ‘YOU DON’T HAVE TO MARRY THE FIRST MAN THAT PROPOSES’. So Tiff, today we’ll have a glass of champayne, a bowl of cookies ‘n’ cream ice-cream and turn on some old Tina Turner music because that’s a strong ass woman. THERE’S ONE THING WE WANT PATRICK TO KNOW THOUGH, IN LIFE YOU BETTER BE CAREFUL HOW YOU BURN THOSE BRIDGES BABY BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW……………….
okay ya know what! New York is sooo awesome, she is totally my role model, she always knows how to tell people off and i think thats so cool about her! The wig does look bad on her, but her hair straight or wazy looks really nice.
Anywho you people need to lay off of New York, bet you wouldnt be saying the shit you’re saying now on the internet to NY’s face now would you, of course not.
New York if you ever read this know im your biggest fan!
-Western
THAT BITCH DID NOT GO TO KNOW DAM COLLEGE MISS JONES BUSTED HER DUMB ASS ON THE RADIO .AND I WONT BE WATCHING HER DUMB IGNORANT UGLY FAKE ASS SLUT.
to western chick.i bet that bitch wont be like that on the street.fuck you and that bitch for real. let that whore come to baltimore.you come with.her.both yall hoe will get ultimate beat down bitch. ask michael jackson.that motherfucker. aint been here in 30 years.he said he never come to baltimore again. and we can care less.fuck you fuck her fuck your momma and hers bitch.
Reality_Check,
There’s a lot of good points in your post(s).
I’d like to point out that Black Americans make up about 12% of the population here in the US. Just for the sake of pointing it out, white people make most of the decisions simply because they are the majority here. It’s pretty much statistics–if you put 88 purple beads in a jar with bead-sized holes in the top, add 12 red beads, mix them together, and then shake it (like a salt shaker) over a bowl, most of the beads that come out are probably going to be purple.
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New York may be educated, but she doesn’t give the impression of being intelligent. Both she and her mother act a little strangely. However, I disagree that they are representing black people as a whole; possibly in other countries /if/ they get VH1 shows, but you hear about both Paris Hilton and New York as, for lack of a better word, “celeb-hos.”
Of course, it’s possible that she’s just pretending, but you’d think she would have caught herself about “arbitrary” in this interview.
Hopefully, people will just see this show as what it is: VH1′s attempt to pander to the same audiences who watch MTV’s Sweet Sixteen. The behavior is remarkably similar. Not to mention, all “reality” TV is fairly lame in the first place.