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I do find it a bit offensive, it just keeps black people stuck in the cycle of making fun of ourselves in order to make a buck. Madea, Big Mama, and the Norbit character are nothing but mammies. Until black people can stop perpetuating the negative stereotypes about ourselves, we will continue to be at the bottom.

I can see where they are coming from but it doesn’t bother me. I grew up around some BIG women. Mother, Grandmother, God-Mother. All of them are beautiful, heavy women. I’m not talking size 16-18 heavy. I’m talking HEAVY. And all of them went to see the movie or wanted to and said it was funny as hell. If they aren’t offended, who am I to be?

anyway thought i was first but that movie was hilarious and that fat lady frustrucia whatever her name was was off the hook in that 2 piece bathing suite at the beach i was lmfao

Sorry ILLEST #1 doesn’t look your first kiddo…lol.

It wasn’t disrespectful at all, now I’m no fat woman but unless you carry on like raspucia (fat character in the movie), it clearly isn’t targeting you, and if you do act like her you probably had it coming!

The movie isn’t about fat black women, it’s about Norbit and his crazed, overbaring wife Raspusha(who happens to be fat and black)…I don’t see what the fuss is about, the movie was funny as hell..We need to stop being sooo serious all the time and enjoy life…We as blacks or whatever we call ourselves nowdays need to stop being so sensitive…It’s comedy people laugh…

I’m sort of divided on the issue but I still think I can wait for this to come to DVD. It just seems to me like we’ve seen this all before from Eddie. He’s proven that he can do other things; I just wish he would stop out of the box more often.

I don’t think that a movie should be what you base your identity on, no one says anyting when they make fun of skinny people besides it’s just comedy

^^step out of the box, I mean.

If it was a fat white character would it be offensive? I think some of us have a tendancy to be a lil too sensitive, nothing about the character sends the message that all or even the majority of over weight “people” black or white act this way. Did anyone feel any generalizations when shallow hal was released?

not disrespectful at all funny

Im sorry. This movie looks horrible. How many times are you gonna see Eddie in a fat suit. And is it me or do they all look like the same character? Meaning this Norbit woman character looks like Mamma Klump.

ANYONE WHO IS OFFENDED BY THIS MOVIE GOT SELF ESTEEM ISSUES AND THEY NEED TO LAY ON SHRINKS COUCH AND COMPLAIN THERE…

AND IM WALKING AROUND IN MY SEXY ASS FAT SUIT ALL DAY AND IM STILL GOING TO SEE IT SO PLEASE…

all in all the movie was very entertaining. i laughed a couple of times. wasn’t exactly what i expected because of the lack of laughs i experienced. the previews were the funniest parts of the movie. i sat there and tried to relate rasputia to someone i knew personally and couldn’t so i didn’t find it offensive, just fun.

I’d Be Lyin If I Said It Wasn’t Funny…But The Funny Was Brought On NOT By Eddie & His Rasputia Comedy. More By The Others In The Movie Like Eddie, Kat, Marlon, & The Chinese Eddie. The ‘Fat’ Shyt Is Gettin Tired And No Matter What Anybody Says It DOES Perpetuate A Stereotype Of Big Women.

i realize men are the only potrayin big women but it is somewhat offensive coming from a man b/c the way they portrayed them is a bit more exaggerated. they feel more hurt b/c they always the butt of jokes and always the ones who love to eat. but hey eddie if fat suits looks good on you then hey i aint mad..madea is anotha story, it really wasnt that much offensive. its eitha dat or black people playin crackheads, thats how the world see us anyways

No one said anything about the movie w/Jack Black, where he was really dating a larger woman but he saw her skinnny ( I can’t recall the name of it), when that came out everyone was in good favor of the film. Why do we have to make a conflict out of nothing. I saw the movie and I enjoyed it. Some of it was pretty dry humor but I did find it funny.
~Sweets~

The people who aren’t offended by this movie probably wouldn’t be offended by minstrel shows either. They’d probably go pay to see them.

Anyone who is offended by this must hate themselves. Come on people its a movie. Now How you doing

I SAW THE MOVIE, I DIDNT THINK IT WAS FUNNY, NOT BECAUSE I THINK HE WAS MAKING FUN OF OBESE WOMEN, BUT I JUST DONT THINK IT WAS FUNNY, THERE WERE A FEW SCENES I LAUGHED AT, BUT NONE OF THEM WERE ABOUT RESPUSHA (WHAT A NAME) OR NORBIT.
BUT I DO UNDERSTAND DIFFERENT PEOPLES PERSPECTIVES, AND WHY THEY WOULD BE OFFENDED.
BUT I TERRIBLY REGRETTED SPENDING $8.50 FOR THIS MOVIE, IT WASNT WORTH IT, IN MY OPINION.

DCPIMP-Yeah that’s the movie Shallow Hal

I think the movie was hella funny! And I agree with Bashyboo, I walk around in my fat suit all day long and I feel extremely confident within myself. And it’s one thing that I give Eddie Murphys take on Rasputia, she had an extremely high self esteem. She didn’t think little of herself at all. So that’s to be commended. In fact, just about all of the big black women that are portrayed on screen today have a high self esteem. It’s all in what ya like. I feel great about myself and there is nothing wrong with me and like Bashyboo said, anyone who took offense to that movie needs to get some mental health cause it’s truly not that serious!

Just when Eddie was starting to get some sort of credibility again with his role in Dream Girls, he goes and does this… how you gonna take 10 steps forward and the take 20 back? Get it together Eddie!

ALSO, I HEARD ON A RADIO TALK SHOW YESTERDAY MORNING, THEM COMPARING TYLER PERRY’S MADEA TO RESPHUSA, RESPUCIA, HOWEVER ITS SPELLED. I GOT KIND OF MAD BECAUSE I THINK THERE IS NO COMPARISON, THE ONLY SIMILARITY THESE 2 WOMEN HAD IN COMMON WAS THE FACT THAT THEY WERE BOTH BIG, AND THAT THEY WERE MEN PLAYING THE PARTS. I LOVE TYLER PERRY AND THE CHARACTER MA’DEA HE CREATES IS A POSITIVE, THE MESSAGE IN HIS MOVIES ARE ALWAYS UPLIFTING AND INSPIRING TO PEOPLE OF ALL RACE, GENDER, AND BACKGROUND, MOST IMPORTANTLY AFRICAN AMERICAN (BLACK FOLK). MA’DEA ALWAYS HAS A POSITIVE MESSAGE, AND HE NEVER MAKES FUN OF BLACK PEOPLE, HE REMINDS US OF THE POWER WITHIN US AND USES THAT TO HELP BRING US BACK UP. THIS RESPUSHA CHARACTER DID NONE OF THE SORT, AND HER STYLE SENSE WAS OFFENSIVE IN ITSELF….LOL
I DONT WANT TO SOUND TOO SERIOUS, BUT PEOPLE ARE DESENSITIZED, BY SAYING ITS JUST A MOVIE, BUT IN ACTUALITY SOME BIG WOMAN MAY HAVE BEEN HURT BY THIS, OBVIOUSLY SOMEONE HAS SINCE THEY ARE STIRRING UP CONTROVESY BEHIND IT.
BUT MY REASON FOR NOT LIKING THE MOVIE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE OBESE PART, I JUST DIDNT LIKE IT, I HAVE SEEN BETTER WITH EDDIE MURPHY.

#3 and #20, You two seem understand the broader and deeper statements and ramifications of images like this (Hollywood sure does).

For those of you who are NOT, offended. Read a book. Better yet, read a history or political science book. Then the seemingly ‘oversensitive rantings’ of many of your brothers and sisters will start to ake sense.

…And the stuff your ignorance allows you to laugh at will soon become embarrassing and shameful to you. For real.

I don’t understand why it has to be an African-American woman thing?

Every race has fat woman. But I guess that black woman get portrayed more on the big screen.

People who cant seperate movies or reality T.V. from real life are just sad.

The movie had it funny moments but overall it was WACK. Save your money.

My part was when Eddie Griffin said, Fellas, buy some ribbed condoms(her pleasure), turn them inside out and it’s pleasure for you. LMAO

Let me say this, Eddie has captured the very essence of the current ‘view’ of black women. Respucia was so on point! I now know why folks are upset. (1) We in Denial and (2) It hit wayy close to home. I see this behaviour all around me, daily and some of it I even possess. I’m almost positive that 95% of the sistas who left that movie first words were “I don’t act like that” and the second is “I don’t know any women who act like that” LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!! Even down to how she rocked her ‘natural’ short fro when she didn’t have her weave/wig on at home (as I sit here in the same condition)was on point. Several Brothers in our row, were like “Man so and so act just like that”. Now sure there were parts that were over the top - but sorry, it pegged us in a negative light…alot, but it isn’t fantasy.

The whole ‘he making fun of fat sistas’ is just a smoke screen in my opinion.

The funniest part of the whole movie - - the pain Clifton Powell looked in because he signed on to do the movie, lol

Ok, I LOVED the original Big Momma’s House and Shallow Hal too, but this obese woman thing is played out by now.
Have they ever poked fun at these super-skinny chicks?

just because it opened #1 with a gob of money doesn’t make it RIGHT or FUNNY…. FOOLISHNESS fits better!

Im not even an obese woman, but I am growing tired of seeing Eddie does these types of movies because what is he really trying to tell us, when these are the only types of movies her does. The only types of movies he has full creative control over as the lead actor. Notice, he never makes fun of any other group. If he made fun of the stereotypes of people like himself, then i would sit down and be quiet. Why not make a film about the stereotype of a tired, stupid, ugly, black man?? Just saying……. Also, this movie was box office gold this weekend, so who was seeing this movie, was it predominetely white people? If so, then we have a serious problem, and it is obvious Eddie has a serious problem, a lot of yall are talking about shrinks and self esteem, but i think eddie needs to see one, because he must have had something bad happen to him in the past by an obese black woman, for him to continue garnering laughs from their plight. Makes you think eh??

That movie was worth the $9 first and foremost, i havent laughed that hard in movie theater since martin’s run tel dat. Eddie def. knows how to make a comedy, my only ? now would be why the F- does everything have to be a debate. He’s and actor and entertainer his job is to make people who go watch his movie laugh, now if u ask me he did that and then some(the movie theater i went to was packed and sold out-every race was in there big, small, ugly, pretty. straight laughing) and if you go see the movie to be honest you forget shes fat, and you see shes just over confident, overbearing, controlling, and mean spirited women(with some hilarious weaves to go with it) And why isnt anyone complaining how Norbits character depicts a sad loner; borderline nerd-in a orphanage who never gets adopted because of how he looks. yea thats a topic that just gets brushed under the rug but trully happens.

I’ve read and heard some ppl complain about Eddie doing this movie after Dreamgirls.

You gotta understand this is what Eddie does and is known for. He got big off of making ppl laugh. So just because he has one serious role don’t mean he has to forget about his roots.

COSIGN WITH #12. I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THE SAME THING!

The movie was so funny…How YOU doing!!!!……

I don’t think it was offensive at all…yes she was a black over weight woman but she also was getting sex, and had confidence…..two charactertics that most people wouldn’t put with a over-weight person….so I think it was cool.

Some people take stuff so seriously. They make fun of everybody in movies like nerds, losers, fat people, skinny folks, dummies, wierdos and the list goes on and on. Either watch the movie or Dont.

I was overweight a few years ago but this is all for fun.Its not that serious.Its is just a movie,but I do understand the other side because he seems to portray nothing but overweight people he hasn’t tried nothing new and people just think oh he is this creative genius that can play multiple fat people in a movie.I really had mixed views about this movie but overall once you leave the theatre you get back to reality and realize its just a movie,but however if someone carries that movie outside than they will follow absolutely what this man does,if that made sense,I don’t know.

But reading some comments…what if someone made a movie about the black man being lazy,thuggish,uneducated and try to portray the “ghetto” life, the way that white man thinks of a black man…would that be funny?Because you know how white men feel about black men right?I know that was touched off subject but come on everybody wants to say african american woman this and that when all races do it.

I haven’t seen it yet but I will see it. The only thing I found offensive about the movie is the fact that his love interest is this super skinny light skinned woman compared to the fat sloppy dark skinned extra ghetto woman. Besides that I can see why its offensive being that large black women are always portrayed as sex addicts, extremely loud, annoying, can’t dress etc.

#27 Windwalker1313 you are my hero. You said everything I needed 2 say.

@ 38. YEAH, THAT’S WHY JAMES QUIT DOING GOOD TIMES!

LMAO!!

Dang, did Eddie see me walking around my house with just my underware and bra on? Cause that woman in the bikini is looking like me on the real. After 4 kids and eating good and not exercising I look just like that. Scary!

i saw the movie and it was funny. not hilarious, just funny. no, i do not find it offensive because fat people are fat people. it’s not anyones fault that someone is fat so they can’t take offense to a fictional character. in movies/tv there will always be characters that portray different things in life….fat, drug addicts, successful college grads, etc. so get over it if you found it offensive…it’s a damn movie

I think this is just entertainment. I saw it a few days ago and thought it was funny! Why would someone take offense at this movie? Unless they view themselves like the character Rasputia. And I don’t see the “fat suit” as offensive. They are overweight black women just like there are overweight white women!

I saw the movie and it was funny. I don’t think Eddie was doing to much and the people that were offended it is JUST comedy. Hate to sound so harsh but if you were offended lose the weight or at least try to. I am not skinny for those wondering I actually am 285 lbs and 6′2″ tall and where a size 25 in jeans and I was not offended at all if anything I would look at myself in the mirror and get off my ass and go work out because being that big isn’t healthy. If anyone wants to comment to what I just said keshamichell@yahoo.com

I have 2 say I loved the movie… and who ever is offended by the movie then u just need 2 go on diet..

preach on #3. I saw norbit, I thought it was hilarious.

I saw the movie the day it came out and NO I didnt find it offensive at all,its just a dang movie, I agree with others, if it were white america running around in a fat suit, NOTHING would be said, But just because Black People have great black male comedians that can just be funny as a woman, the “CRITICS” have something negative to say, I find it interesting, that true NOTHING was said about the movie “SHALLOW HAL”, but anyway the movie was funny hands down and give Eddie Murphy, Martin Lawrence, and Tyle Perry, they are just good at what they do and its not to be mean to over weight black women or women period its just MOVIES………….

I can understand where folks are coming from but it is done by blacks and whites alike. It just sticks out in our minds more when we do it. Heck Gwyneth Paltrow did it in Shallow Hal. Everyone does it. The same way folks talk about gansta rap and black women showing off their bodies on videos etc…white folks do it too but when we do it folks act like we are out their cooning. Hell we all coon. I am not proud of it but blacks, whites, jews, gentiles, protestants, asians, lationo(a)s everybody. The dude is doing the damn thing making money the way he should….legit. We ge mad when the folks on tv don’t reflect reality and then when they do (with the exception that he is not a woman) we get irritated. Folks just can’t be happy.

WHAT ABOUT MS.DOUBTFIRE OR SHALLOW HAL???? THOSE WERE MOVIES ABOUT FAT WHITE WOMEN– DID FAT WHITE WOMEN FIND THOSE MOVIES OFFENSIVE.??..

I HAVENT SEEN THE MOVIE BUT FROM THE PREVIEWS I WAS TAKEN BACK BY HOW THIS WOMEN RESPUSHA WAS PORTRAYED…RUNNIN THROUGH TABLES AND BREAKIN BEDS….LIKE SHE WAS SOME KIND OF BARBARIAN.I THINK BIG WOMEN ARE BEAUTIFUL BUT SHE WAS MADE TO BE REAL GHETTO. I THINK HE SEES DOING FILMS THAT HAVE OVERWEIGHT PEOPLE IN THEM A MONEY MAKER BECAUSE HE KNOWS HOW SOCIETY FEELS ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE FAT..AND THEYLL LAUGH AT THAT WHEN THEY SEE IT.I THINK IF YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE THEN THEN YOU CAN CONSIDER IT “JUST A MOVIE” BUT FOR OTHERS IT CAN REALLY EFFECT THEM. I MYSELF AM NOTHING LIKE THIS CHARACTER BUT IT BOTHERS ME TO SEE THAT FOR BIG WOMEN IN GENERAL!!!

Speak on it Windwalker1313.

Screw offensive. Here’s the real question:

Why does Eddie enjoy dressing up like a woman so damn much??? HER-CU-LES!

I have not read through the thread. But in response to NORBIT I want to say this. Not only does it appear that as Black people we critic EVERYTHING and are harder on ourselves than everyone, but lets be real, if we are the most prone race to Obesity, and our children develop waaaay to quickly, we have high blood pressure then wy are we criticising an artist (eddie murphy) for his artistic impression. He is using art to imitte life so he is NOT THE PROBLEM.

Stay the heck away from greasy, hormone induced, fatty foods. Get of the couch and exercise, lets work out lets stop being so friggin religious and sitting in church yet not realising “our bodies are temples….” if you want to go there. Fat girls for the most part are fat because of themselves. I empathise and sympathise but if they want to change then damn it do something about it. $33 Million screw y’all Edie won a golden globe a sag and now made the studio money because he is talents. WELL DONE I celebrate a career of a hard working innovative black man, all you sell outs that tear down OUR few success stories and want to hold his scandals over him are the worst uncle toms in the world. His private life dont mean shite to me, his only job is to entertain me, and he did it twice (Dreamgirls and Nobit) this year, job done phuckers!!!!!!! and you phreaking tracy edmonds…………NICE……..YAGSHEMASH (as borat would say)

By the way, if a movie came out and there were nothing but black women being portrayed as “video hoes” I wonder how that would be taken?

Acting is about having range and being able to carry out different roles. Maybe people are offended because they see this same actor doing the same thing over and over again.

It takes all kinds to make the world go round and yes, there are fat people in every culture. Also, sometimes we have to laugh at ourselves. But at some point comedy becomes a slap in the face. Especially when it’s not tempered with images that portray the other side of the coin as well. For once, I’d like to see a fat lawyer or educator being portrayed by “actors” like Eddie. Yes, we know you know how to put on a fat suit and play an over-aggressive man-chasing wilderbeast. Now can you do something else?

Whatever. Eddie Murphy is your stereotypical color struck Black man. Look at all the women he has ever seriously dated, like his ex wife and Tracy Edmonds. Also look at his love interests in his movies. And then he has the nerve to make fun of heavy set dark skinned Black women. I find it offensive. Not on a really deep level, but it shows a lot about his character. It shows a lack of respect. Like who you like, but women who you find unattractive are not jokes to be made fun of in a movie.

When he came out wit the Klumps which was a family of fat people farting and stuffn they faces like pigs at the table no one said a damn thing…but as soon as he comes out wit Norbit people get upset for no damn reason…I mean just get over it hell they talk about all types of people in the damn movies so who cares….shit they talk about all skinny people being anorexic and not eating and shit…hell im small but i dont get mad at it cuz i kno im not anorexic and i dont give a fuck wat others say

I just seen Norbit on Sunday & just like other movies about gays(BrokeBack Mountain), jews (Borat), our own (Baby Boy, Barbershop, Boyz n da Hood/just to name few); it has its stereotypes. The movie was okay for the most part and proved to be comedic. I’m sure that it offended some…being overweight is a sensitive topic for all races. But when it comes to “our community,” we seem to have the hardest time accepting truths. I wish us all well and even though being overweight can be caused by a chemical inbalance, there are those that are overweight because they have yet to accept the challenge to be discliplined when it comes to eating healthy.

I’ve seen the movie and i think it’s hilarious. this movie is not based on fat black women so why would anyone get offended? its all fun and laughs and you can tell that this is what eddie was aiming for in this movie. if you dont like his work then dont go see his movies

The movie was WACK!! Funny but WACK!! Do not see it!

Who gives a rat’s ass who’s first.
Anyways “NORBIT” was funny as hell, so ppl need not be so damn sensitive. I LMAO the whole damn movie.

I’m not going to tell anyone what they should be offended about. If you don’t care, than I certainly don’t care. It’s obvious that the white man puppeteers comedians like Eddie Murphy and Martin Lawrence and makes them think that cross-dressing is the “hot thing” and the only thing that will “sell”. Like I’ve said before though, the white man deals with marketing and advertisement which is just psychological warfare or mind control. So he certainly can say what “will sell” or what “is hot” because he knows that he will make people think it’s hot, lol. He does the same thing when he makes the rappers think that the only way people will appreciate their music is if they sell drugs and shoot other black men on every track. That’s why when these rappers don’t sell, they don’t say that their shit wasn’t hot, they say that they didn’t “get promoted right”. They know the correlation between promotion and sales. My point is that there is a reason why every commercial break on every TV channel for every TV show the last 3 weeks was for this movie and it seems to have all the prerequisites: fat obnoxious black women, pimps, etc.

The whole fat black woman thing is just a continuation of the “fat mammy” and “Aunt Jemima” theme from the 1940’s and so on. The real issue in my opinion is the white man’s infatuation with seeing black male actors in drag. From Ving Rhames to Wesley Snipes to Martin Lawrence to Eddie Murphy. It probably makes whites feel less intimidated to see a black man that’s dressed as a woman or that is effeminate or an outright homosexual. It’s consistent with the “homosexual revolution” that we’re seeing today, especially in the black community.

Then you have the black men that have to play a homosexual to get on i.e. Will Smith. Dave Chappelle was intuitive enough to pick up on this fetish and he noted it on “Oprah”. I believe that that is the main reason why Dave Chappelle exited the entertainment industry. He realized that by putting all those stereotypes on the screen, he was making white people more comfortable to laugh at blacks as opposed to actually changing anything. You cannot change a wicked system within the system.

I took my daughters to see this movie and they LOVED it. For me, it was ok. They were some hilarious parts in the movie. HOW YOU DURN!!!! LMAO!

J Lewis said: “People who cant seperate movies or reality T.V. from real life are just sad.”

DITTO! I agree.

A distinction should be made between someone who’s sensitive and someone who’s perceptive. Some people cannot distinguish between the two because the people that aren’t perceptive are usually too stupid to know the difference.

Who cares what the critics say? That movie was funny as hell….how yur doin??

It seems that hardly anyone on this board recognizes the real issue. We as a Black race can not afford to keep perpetuating ourselves in a negative stereotypical light. As far as we Blacks have come we have so much further to go to be equal on a social and economic level to not only our White counterparts but many other races that have come here from abroad. These images are costing us our unified self-esteem. The very esteem we need to excel in this society. The world is watching and responding to us accordingly. If we portray ourselves in a positive light in the media (movies, videos) we will mimic those images. Otherwise we will continue to remain stuck in a mental slave state. (e.g. …did you all know that slavecaptures placed gold teeth in the mouths of slaves to identify which slave belonged to whom)….yet we are walking around bling blinging on our teeth…because we aren’t knowledgable of our history. I personally am saddened by our lack of knowledge. When we have Black people standing up for and voice opinions about the need for positive images we need not attack so quickly and listen to what they have to say… You may learn something.

P.S. Gwyneth Paltrow’s character in Shallow Hal wasn’t attitudinal, sex-crazed, loud, boisterous and barbaric. This movie shouldn’t be compared to that. Besides, that race is 400 yrs. ahead on an economic level and can afford a little laugh at themselves. WE CAN’T!!

I am not going to waste my time or money seeing this Bullshit. As good of an actor Eddie Murphy is, I don’t know why he would stoop this low to make this common ass degrating movie. Don’t ya’ll get tired of seeing bufoonish stuff like this? Now I like comedy ok, but this is a difference between comedy and ignorance. Madea’s Family was comedy. She was just a tough older woman giving words of wisdom. She was the females in the family about not letting men mistreat you. She wasn’t doing nasty, gross things that were disgraceful. It also had drama in it too. Soul Plane = Ignorance need I say more. I like comedy but not stupidity. Just look at the Norbit pictures above. Need I say more? Holla!

Eddie Murphy was wonderful in Dreamgirls, but this Norbit movie can really end up hurting his chances for an Oscar. He’s been in the industry for years, yet he has never won any major awards b/c of the types of movies he appears in (i.e. Nutty Professor,Pluto Nash, Dr. Doolittle, Daddy Daycare, etc.) He’s never been taken seriously with those movies, and he may have blown his Oscar chances by playing yet another goofy fatsuit role so soon before the Oscars.

I forgot that Tyler Perry negro that has become rich through his self-degradation…

Since when did the critics care about big people’s feelings? They were probably praising Eddie in his roles in the Nutty Professor movies. And as for Tyler Perry, Medea’s charcter is not about her weight. Yes, Medea is loud, crazy, and hilarious, but the whole premise of those plays are to show the strong ties of family and love. Take it in humor, and don’t let stereotype make you. Be yourself, and make yourself a positive person to all.

I never said that Madea revolves around weight. Like I said earlier, it’s about effeminizing black men. I can’t think of a role where a black woman played a black man for the entire movie. The premise is retarded.

#12 you better preach! I know that’s right! If a brotha is out on the corner slinging dope getting alot of money he’s being criticized if he’s playing an overweight black woman in a movie and the brotha has skills and its something that’s really really funny, please tell me WHAT’S THE BIG DEAL?

Judah, I was typing my comment for a while, so I didn’t see your comment until after I posted mine.

Sorry sis or brother @73

I saw the movie and thought it was quite funny. I have to commend Eddie on his diversity to be able to play different kinds of roles. I think he has major talent, he can play different roles which are all very believable and for most actors its unheard of..

Have we gone completely mad in this country? Do you people think that if you “fixed” Eddie Murphy, “fixed” the media and we changed everything to suit US (black folks. That black women would suddenly slim down, that our health would suddenly improve. That we wouldn’t eat greasy fried chicken, that men would suddenly not objectify women and treat them as “props” in music videos. That we would suddenly invest our money more wisely than buying gold and bling. IT IS EDUCATION that we need to give to our children, tht their health can be effected negatively, who do you thnk is feding these children to be huge! Not the phucking TV or POP Culture, the damn parents, they need to be educated. So for a country that is so new (I mean America is just over 500 years since Columbus) So ok we have made great in roads snce then, not enough I agree, but phucking heck why are we using Eddie Murphy as the “reason” or the person who is “setting us back” Phuck that! he helps put black actors in roles make money and creates careers. Yes somethings perpetuate stereotypes but so what?!?!?! you want freedom of speech, then accept people can do what they want and pay atention to you and yours or send a leter to Larry the Cable Guy and the blue Collar TV tour and tell them they shouldnt make fun of trailer parks and rednecks, because it is “seting them back” how dumb is that!?!? teach you and yours to be the best they can be and combat pop culture with good education. White girls have paris hilton lindsay lohan and britney running around like hoes with no underwear, baby dadies and divorcing sex tapes. And whites don’t “slay each other” like we do. In fact how many white people give a flying Phuck and are still buying US weekly just to laugh at them. LOOK AT FRIGGIN ANNA NICOLE SMITH, But you know what they do? they tell their kids “look don’t be like that you see how negative it is right?” And “remember what Miss america did? make good choices” that is all we need to do. But blacks are always complaining going back to Aunt Jemima etc, Yeah hollywood is racist but it isn’t just racist. it is every “ism” “phobic” etc Ellen Degeneres was kicked of TV for declcaring her Homosexuality, now not even a decade later, if you disagree with homosexuality you need diversity training, there’s something wrong with you, it is so widely accepted. so America just goes with the flow without moral integrity. Now I agree with Judah and some of his points about the cross dresing thing, because the quickest way to demonize or degrade a virile powerful intelligent sexual creature like a black man, is to “put some sugar in his tank”. Fucked up but true.

@76

You have to qualify your statements or it just sounds like a high-minded monologue. I hear alot of blacks say that we need to “educate our children”. If you can say that then you should have thought out how to get that accomplished. Do you trust this educational system? You have to understand that there are caucasians of average or subaverage intellect that are able to succeed and thrive because they look out for each other. George Bush Jr. graduated from Yale, lol. The environment in the black community is so negative that a child has to have a superlative spirit to succeed. That’s like the people that say, “I love my country but we should get out of Iraq…”. Desperate to sound relevant and yet not offend anyone, in other words, saying nothing. How can anyone compare black people to anyone else when everyone else has their community and history? You will never hear East Indians, Arabs, Chinese, Africans, etc. talk about “education” or “who we need to vote for” because they have their community. They can and will count on each other. That’s how you know that when blacks talk about Obama and “Education”, that’s code for “anything but trust this nigger standing next to me…”.

Eddie Murphy is a very talented actor! I wish him nothing but success on his projects; however, this one just didn’t interest me.

A couple of friends went to see it this weekend and asked me to come. I was like, “naw, I’ll pass.” The Klumps was enough for me. I could only do so much of Madea too.

So, oh well. I’m not offended by the concept though. Shoot, it’s based on reality. PERIOD! Moving on………..

I haven’t seen this movie and I don’t plan to do so. I have seen Madea and Big Momma at a family gathering though. I have to say, in general I have a problem with men in drag. But I have a real problem with the skewed images of AA in hollywood. It’s not about being sensitive or not enjoying the ‘humor’ - it’s about the damaging effects of movies like this to our people. To make my point, I was listening to a conservative radio talk program the other day and a white dude from idaho called in to say that black people shouldn’t be so sensitive because they know (if the look deep down) that ALL black families have a loud, big, black character like that in their family. He also went on to say that white people did not complain when whites made fun of themselves in Talladega Nights.

The bad part about this is - this is the limited view many non-blacks have about blacks on a global persepctive. They do think most of us are loud, ignorant, calling ourselves n*ggers, fat, drug-dealers, pimps, rappers, in drag, with fronts, with long fingernails, chewing gum and snapping our heads, cooning and carrying on.

They (non-blacks) think it is a fantasy when we play or present ourselves as educated, professionals, with a two-parent household, common sense, manners and are articulate and in good health.

I can honestly say I don’t have anyone like the ‘fat suit’ characters in my family. I have some heavy folks in my family. But none of the women walk around in a two-piece or braless running after the menfolk in the fam. JMPOV

People, get used to it, a large number of black women ARE overweight, AND they get made fun of everyday, so dont down Eddie Murphy for making others laugh and have a good time at the movies. The movie isnt direspectful to overweight African American women, they’re disrespectful to themselves, simply by being overweight.

On the other hand I think this fat-suit thing is getting pretty old. I mean, maybe it would be better if nobody could tell that it was the same person playing the other roles, but this, that BigMomma crapp, and the other movies alike, no matter how many fake pounds and make-up artist, you can still tell who the person is playing these people. Eddie’s done this many times before and it’s just becoming stale.

Everyone is complaining about the fact that this movie is offensive to overweight African American women, and they should be. Yes the movie is probably hilarious, but at who’s expense? What I’m most upset about is how Black women are always being portrayed as the loud, sassy, controlling, male dominating mammy/sapphire character in mainstream movies. The whole fat thing just hides the fact that this movie, along with so many others, makes it seem like the Black social and family structure is upside down because the man never takes control while the woman controls everything. The White family structure is the complete opposite when portrayed in the media. It’s all a ploy to make Black people seem inferior to White people. Doesn’t anyone else see something wrong with this?

http://www.boycottnorbit.com

At least Tyler Perry and Martin Lawrence had way more class..you did not see Madea nor Big Mama running around with no clothes on, belittling themselves. I’m ashamed of Eddie..he needs to get a life

I agree with #68. Eddie’s Oscar dreams have gone down the drain. You know the board members of the Academy of Motion Pictures are screwing their nose up at this movie. If I was on the board, Eddie would definitely not get my vote. Now that’s really real

You can sign the real “Boycott Norbit” petition here. http://www.petitiononline...l/signed.cgi?Norbit&1

I already signed it.

True #15, I agree with the first half. I still want to see this.

I just signed the petition. And I am glad that I did. I couldn’t have worded it better myself. It’s sad that we love to degrade one another. And more importantly, we seem to ONLY degrade one another. Aside from his family movies, which I never saw, Eddie Murphy only did Boomerang that represented Black people in a positive light. And now I’m questioning the portrayal of Strange. Eddie Murphy clearly has a problem with dark skinned Black women, who are in fact the majority of Black women. And most of us don’t have a heavy woman in our family who acts like the woman in this movie, but we do more than likely have a heavy woman who sort of looks like his portrayal. I think he is dead wrong. And people who aren’t offended should really look at the message that he is sending out.

And I forgot Coming to America, which was positive. Where he married a light skinned American woman instead of an African one. LOL

i thought it was offensive! Especially since the woman hes really feelin is very light and skinny

I agree with no. 62 Judah said 100%. I saw the film before it came out and I thought it was HORRIBLE! Not a single laugh throughout the entire film. And unlike the chaarcters that Murphy played in his Nutty Professor movies, the characters in Norbit were all, repulsive and unlikable. Once again, as with those Big Momma’s House and Meada movies Hollywood castrates the black man and we’re stupid enough to go see it. And who has the last laugh? Yeah, I know “it’s just a comedy, lighten up” is the excuse you’re going to say. Personally, I think black women like these films because it degrades black men and they see it as a form of revenge against us. As for black men who like them, well they’re just brain washed slaves

What is Norbit about?

You know some of you people talking about us taking things too “seriously” but if we didn’t we would probably still be in slavery.

Now think about that!

@19: That movie was Shallow Hal and they seem like two different movies to me, IMO.

I dont find the whole fat suit thing offensive but its getting kinda old.

there is a reason that every commercial with a Black woman in it has her overweight or speaking grammatically incorrect English, because both whites and Blacks are comfortable with the image. when was the last time you saw an overweight white woman in a commercial? it’s not going to happen, because white people aren’t comfortable seeing their women portrayed that way.

I saw the movie and honestly since I knew it’s Eddie Murphy playing three roles, I never once thought about big boned women or assumed that this is the way that they act. I don’t think anyone really did. It’s a movie, not reality and I am not looking at anyone differently because of it.I don’t look at big women anyway period we all people. I don’t care how big or small someone is as long as they cool people’s.

You can not compare this character to Madea or to Big Momma @ all. The white people in the media comparing them don’t know & will never know what the hell they are talking about when it comes to us in any light. The only thing these characters have in common are that they are over weight. Because these men are playing these women so well is probably the cause for a lot of these folks on her hating. That to me is pure talent. As far as Tyler & Madea go, she is so real especially down here in the south. That is why Tyler is blessed the way he is. People can relate & it’s something the whole family can enjoy. And I don’t think that any black female actress could have pulled off Madea, Big Momma or Resputia the way that these talented black men have.

I haven’t seen the movie yet but I do plan on seeing it. And yes! I’m a think black sista. I’m not offended by Eddie being in a fat suit. Because truth be know if you go to a beach u do see large women not only black women but white women too in two piece bathing suits that shouldn’t be in them.

I think everybody is this world is just tooooo freaking sensitive about everything. You can’t say a damn thing nowadays without offending somebody. Whatever happened to free speech? It’s only a movie people, only a movie.

I remember back in the day when Flip Wilson played Geraldine he didn’t offend anybody and lord knows he was tooo funny. I couldn’t wait until Friday night to watch. Even on Sanford and Son Fred always called Esther ugly and we all laughed at that. So I just don’t see why everybody got their panties in a freaking wad over this movie. Eddie being a black woman in a fat suit. Get Over IT…..

#38 they did that in that Wayans brothers movie the funny version of Menace to Society.

I AM AN OVERWEIGHT AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMAN AND I LOVED THE MOVIE. GRANTED THERE ARE SOME PARTS OF THE MOVIE THAT ARE A BIT DISTURBING BUT THAT IS ONLY BECAUSE OF MY SELF ESTEEM IN THOSE SITUATIONS. I FEEL THAT OBESITY IS ON THE PERSON. IF THEY DONT LIKE THE WAY THEY LOOK THEN THEY SHOUD DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. IT IS SAD…BUT SO TRUE. AND I WEIGHT OVER 250 POUNDS.

Why do we continue to endorse and allow black men to tear down our race. They’re the weakest of all men. No other men of any other race so publicly degrades their women. Black men have so much self hate that they deserve a dissertation. They make so many excuses. The only thing that they’re successful at is impregnating, being violent and being consistent losers.

Why Eddie??? I guess you won’t be getting an Oscar this year becausse of this dumb ass movie! Still love ya though!

It is entertainment..it is entertainment… I hear that over and over again. Isn’t this the same arguement used to talk about rap. Haven’t we learned yet we need to mindful of how we put ourseleves out there in the media. Black men are seen as weak, boy-like, white women chasing deviants, while black women are seen as loud, obese, and manly. When will it stop when will we create a more balanced look at ourseleves. When will those traits listed above be balanced. For every Flava a Obama for every New York a Oprah for every Rapecha(sp?) a Jennifer Hudson or Queen Latifah. Why can’t a movie come out with Jennifer or Queen in the lead role that takes 33 million (in the first weekend) where she doesn’t have to sing be loud or fit a “ghetto” stereotype. We have Queen as a covergirl and I am very proud of that now let’s push forward more positive, beautiful, and full views of we black men and women.

I’m sorry but I am getting real tired of movies like this. Is this all Black actors can do? We need to expand ourselves and show the world that Black people are much more diverse than this.

Eddie Murphy is definitely color-struck. Almost ALL of the female lead roles in his movies have been light-skinned women, I always wondered about that.

And stop comparing this to Shallow Hal, the woman in that movie wasn’t loud, ghetto and obnoxious.

And yeah y’all can say “it’s just comedy” but trust me it runs much deeper than that.

@77.

I like you and people like you Judah because you encourage and promote critical thnking and following through the thought process. So I will say it like this.

With education I mean common sense education. Give children choices and rather than raising our children to “shut up be seen and not heard” let them grow up feeling able to and at times be rewarded for asking questions. Let our children travel outside of what they know their own comfort zone so they can see where and how oter cultures live. Because I know that other cultures (such as Japan which has a highly knowledgable hip hop community) know about us. How many posters here know who is the top rapper in Japan? Education and taking in of knowledge is importnt, it boosts self esteem. many young people don’t even vote, yet they know Bill Clinton got his dick sucked in the oval office! They have no idea of the issues etc. And WE as parents can facilitate that. We don’t want our children to be as ignorant as we were, so we must give them the opprtunities and choices we didn’t have and the ones we did. How does this relate to the discussion at hand? Education allows you to not do things simply because “my mamma did it”. Because “mamma” died of high cholesterol or blood pressure. so you eat better you find out how to. I bet you if you took a poll, a lot of over weight people who are responsible for the cooking or what people in their house eat, more times than not they are all eating the same thing.

Is this uproar over this movie even worth it, when over 60% of Americans are either overweight or obese? Did Eddie cause that or was he saying look at this bullsit. Monique came out with that fat show. So many women who are either too lazy to exercise, used to want to loose weight or know that their man would be happier with her being how they first met or just a little more toned, have now gone to the other end of the spectrum, “phuck it, i will find smeone to love me for me”. Bullshit. Weight needs to be proportionate and increases health. We are a country of excess arrogance and bad attitude. we dont care what everyone else is doing because this is where its at. Which is a real dumb attitude when we share a globe with other cultures and expect them to conform. We consume soooooo much, and as blacks we are prone to many diseases based on our health. i hope I clarified some of the things I said.

#98…u seem like u a lil bit filtered. some things are bettah not said then done..thats why people have low self esteem issues and when someone thinks like that they do something crayz like killing themselves. freedom of speech can get yo ass in trouble sometimes…look at bush for ie.

being obese or being 2 skinny is not a good look for nobody and thats a social constraint that should be left alone cause we often get influence from

#105…are you sayin that women in general have to look good in order to keep a man happy????? ok what about vice versa? im sorry hunny but men shouldnt be so damn picky about what they want in a woman cause women are so damn gullable these days. no woman should have to change their selves to please some man. thats a downfall for women, they always taking criticism from a man or they out to please a man first for ie, if my man told me to get a breast implants, you think ima run out there and get implants because “oh my man said i need big breasts”. today, women are trained like robots just to keep a man. i shall damn will leave him if he cant love me for me, big average or skinny. that aint even right. you do want somebody whos gonna love you for you and not because of what your assets

1. IMHO, from the majority of postings on this topic (using this board as a ’sample’), it is abundantly clear that FAR too many young African Americans are intellectually, politically, and socially ignorant.

2. Therefore, a majority of us are ill-equipped to understand the modern game of life, much less navigate it successfully, or understand its ramifications. We don’t even understand the damn rules!

3. Funny thing, black folks get all surprised and pissed off…calling white college kids racists because these kids have private frat parties dressed as rappers, drug dealers, pimps, and prostitutes…where they paint their faces dark and girls wear outfits making their butts look cartoonishly huge.

Damn!

…One of the Rules (put in the words of modern Main Street and mass media) “Image Is Everything!” -Nike circa 1995

My only gripe about this movie was the fact that they decided to play Kirk Franklin’s “Looking For You” at the end during the credits!! That was out of line on the real. After all that cursin and ish you wanna bust out with a Gospel song….that rubbed me the wrong way. Other than that..it was iight…had its funny parts but it kinda got old quick.

LOL #36…”How YOU doing!?”

Another thing, “Madea” should not be used in the same sentence as “Big Momma” or “Rasputia”. Different level, different objective! No correlation.

i couldnt agree with everyone more. how offensive can hollywood get??? i think war of the worlds was offensive to aliens. i think ray was offesive to blind people. i think the shrek was offesive to big green ogres. i think happy feet was offensive to penguins. i think the cartoon cars was offensive to cars……get my point? these are “movies”!!!! they are meant to entertain, not portray real life. get offended at documentaries not fiction. did anyone see fahrenheit 911? that was real life. i was offened at G.W. Bush.

saw it, liked it. don’t think it was offensive… at least not in my opinion.

first of all let me say MOST IMPORTANTLY than anything.. that movie was not PG-13 material… and there were so many adults taking kids to this movie as thought it was the Nutty Professor or Doolittle.

Eddie should have made the movie out of that chinese character he portrayed that was brilliant… but lets get to the BIGGER situation in this conversation.

This topic about plus sized african american women is not relevant. The professional women have nothing to worry about with this movie…because their lifestyle is not like this… its those unsmall, multicolored hairstyled, flaming curled up nail-having, hood women who are portrayed TO PROFECTION by eddie murphy. i will be fair and said that maybe the character is borderline overplayed as being too aggressive..and physically abusive. they hit it right on the head… from the bright colored outfits, the 4 hairstyles in 5 days, to using hood-jedi mind tricks when youre being caught getting broke off LOL… anyway…

if anyone should get a timbo in their a-crack should be marlon wayans… horrible horrible horrible… powertap my arse lol…

dont waste money going to see this it will be on dvd before the summer… lousy movies usually do…

ps and when did charlie murphy become a comedian… he didnt get a laugh down here at he imporv in miami…

Yes I signed the petition, if you would like to know why, see my previous comment, at #32

Although I am not offended by the movie and comfortable with my weight, I am tired of seeing thin people dress up like big people. Tyra, that girl from entertainment tonight, gwen palthrow (sp?). Tyra went so far as to cry. She doesn’t know how it feels to be over 200 ibs.lol Until you are big you don’t know how it really feels. The difference between Eddie’s movie is that is for entertainment where those people like Tyra are performing an experiment.

i have not seen the movie i really don’t want to see the movie, but if the average woman is a size 14, why are they not protrayed in a romantic sense it’s always comedic and to me that’s a bigger issue. i saw shallow hal, but it had more redeemable qualities where he saw past her weight not as some comededic buffonery. the reality is there are women who look like monique, queen latifah, but they are not seen in a romantic light and whether we want to admit it or not we’re affected by what images are being potrayed what’s attractive and not. we may know women like raspucia, but what do we have to counteract that nikki parker who chased a man for 5 yrs no disrespect to monique, but that’s the images of big women that are seen. i saw phat girls and being a plus sized woman my self i thought i have to get another man from another culture to appreciate my curviness as opposed to the men who grew up with big women in their household. now to be fair i know everyone has a preference and that’s fine you should like who you like, but there are some men who are in the “fat closet” they like big women, but are scared what society and their friends have to say and images on the screen in regards to big women makes it harder. i know people say we should have to laugh at ourselves, but at whose expense? there should be a balance not always the comedic one dimensional view of big women and sometimes it’s not always funny.a

Dang, I’m just waiting on Coming to America II

And another about when Tyra and those other people dress up in the fat suit for experiments (I am not speaking on Eddie or Palthrow or those in character) they are in tears because people are laughing at them. As a big girl, they look so fake in those suits, that I would laugh at them also. They should stop and think that people may be laughing at them because they look ridiculous. I seldom have people laughing at my 200 lbs plus ass! lol

HEY WAS THE MOVIE GOOD???

So I wonder…are the same people who are making such a big deal about “Norbit” making a deal about things that really matter. Things like the homeless, the abused, those who suffer from starvation. If you want to make noise, make noise about something that matters. This is just a movie. You saw the previews and you had an OPTION on whether or not to go and see it. It was your CHOICE, just like it was his CHOICE to make the movie. We as Americans get so caught up in the hype that we often forget to focus on the things that are important! Comedy is comedy! Just like #15 said…don’t let your own personal emotions make you take offense to the movie. I AM FAT and it is my fault not anyone else. I can’t take it personal whenever someone cracks a fat joke. It’s not realistic. It upsets me so bad that we as a people (not just blacks…but Americans) always shoot each other down. If it doesn’t appeal to you, that’s fine, but don’t knock the hustle!!! The world would be a better place.

YEAA, WHATEVER… I HEARD IT WAS FUNNY AS HELL SO I WILL BE SEEING IT THIS WEEKEND.

ITS JUST A MOVIE. PEOPLE SHOULD STOP BEING SO SENSITIVE & EMOTIONAL.

its harmless fun, i believe.
if Eddie found it offensive, he wouldn’t do such a thing.
its your choice to watch the movie.

besides, i dont think he acts in movies purely for the money involved.

i know im going to watch this film boi!

Are they fucking serious?

Its just a fucking movie,Damn its a comedy!
I sat my fat ass in the movie theather
and laughed my ass off,its just a damn funnie movie like it or not but get the fuck over it,believe me when I say you will get over it,that movie theater was filled with big ass women so who took it offensive.

I am overweight, female, and black - this movie was hilarious. Raspucia is a character people. She is funny period. Do we have to dissect every little thing?

I found the movie to be hilarious and I am a heavy woman. It did not offend me at all. If we as heavy people get so offended then maybe we need to do something about our weight. It is not healthy to be overweight and we know it, so why are we getting so offended? I have the slightest idea. I know I am heavy and need to work it, but until I do I will continue to enjoy a nice smothered pork chop with mash potatoes and gravy. “How you during?”

I have seen the movie and it was very funny. I don’t think people should get offended by it, especially overweight black women , unless they see themselves in that character. Its just a movie people. That character is overly exaggerated.

Remember all the racist material and the word “nigger” flying everywhere on the Dave Chappelle show? It was also funny but Dave has now admitted that most of that came from his WHITE writers who laughed much harder than the black cast. Eventhough Eddie may not mean any harm-don’t think the white powers aren’t already thinking that all black women are tacky, mean, overweight and oversexed. Rasputia is a modern day “mammy”. It’s time out for all that sell out bullshit.

Eddie just can’t seem to stop acting like the donkey from Shrek…which was also stereotypical and clownish.

Norbit looks like hot ass garbage. Big Momma’s House was good for a laugh. The only thing that pisses me off about the Norbit previews is that that fat woman has her belly hanging out and shit. Why is that necessary? They didn’t do that in Big Mama’s House or Madea’s.

@ alexg than i guess black america needs to get it together (i mean i we have to get it together) and i agree they do, but you can’t go through life being offended by everything,but i do understand your point.

I saw the movie Friday night and I thought it was very very funny. I am a big girl and I felt no disrespect. Those people that feel disrespected are not comfortable with themselves. You know you are fat and the people around you know you are fat because they can see it, so what is the big deal. Loose weight if it bothers you and leave the rest of us alone to enjoy.

Ya’ll might as well bring back Amos-n-Andy or
Steppin-Fetchit.

i seriously do not get the “mammie” reference. and why should these black women roles be offensive? should movies that have drug addicts in them be considered offensive? should all of the crackheads of the nation rise up in protest? or how about movies with italian mafia characters? should all of the pizza makers of the world riot in rage? black people are always trying to holler “FOUL” yet we have the most division and negativity in our community.

madea, big momma and norbit are all figures that exist in our community, some sweet and fun matriarchs and some bigs girls that look a hot nasty mess that dress inappropriately-EVERYONE CAN IDENTIFY WITH BOTH. especially big momma and madea-and they are ENDEARING family members. the “big momma”s and “madea”s were pillars that headed families, took care of people, nurtured and loved any and everyone. so what is wrong with portraying that….and i know some big mommas that are funny as hell. are people mad cuz its comedy? even tho the chracters make jokes and play a lot, there’s usually a message in there somewhere (with madea and big momma-haven’t seen norbit)

i think black folks need to stop always TRYING to find something to jump up and protest about. we’re talking movies here-ENTERTAINMENT! but after folks get done hoopin and hollerin about this, how are they conducting themselves in their lives? do they make fun of and tear down other black women in everyday REAL life? are they themselves upstanding and positive people? everybody’s always judging the next person…but stop and look at yourself, check yourself, and order your steps!

i NEVER wanted to see this movie and im glad i didnt go with my family because they didnt like it.they said it was nasty and wasnt for kids at all..it doesnt look like it had a plot.just something ignorant to make money.

oh, and for those who want to complain about the love interest being a light skinned skinny chick-AGAIN, look at how we do in REAL life!

in videos, who do you see more of? sometimes in the community, who is revered more highly? how many times have you heard “i like ‘em light skinned with long hair”? i mean for real…..art imitating LIFE

i saw on tyra that a 5 year old girl called someone fat, and it happened to be her momma…did anybody see that??? thats what lil kids think when they see everybody in the world now. At the age of 5, she worried about her momma havin baby fat. i find that strange..

#80…..you are sooo damn wrong. that eitha came out wrong or you just dont have no sense

@105

No disrespect but you made my point for me. I’m not gonna draw this out any further but you really don’t have a plan, at least nothing that has the remotest possibility of being implemented. Other cultures have always been highly aware of our creations because we’re the Most High’s chosen. Our style overwhelms everyone else. The “hip-hop scene” that is in Japan and other countries is nothing but modern day blackface (which many countries still have on their TV networks). Really, who cares who the top rapper in Japan is? Lol, are you kidding me with that shit? I don’t even give a damn who the top rapper in America is and the knowledge of who the top rapper in any country is, is the last thing that black people that pay attention are concerned with. I do remember the Prime Minister of Japan saying that the main problem in America is “the blacks” though, lol.

I get tired of black people saying that we have to “open ourselves to other cultures”. We don’t even understand our own culture yet. That sounds like, “let’s try to piece together a history and culture from other races because I’m too lazy to do research.” That’s why blacks run and fabricate “black holidays” like Kwanzaa, which have no historical or cultural relevance whatsoever.

I notice that when you start to question these enlightened negroes on their “plan”, as long as you ask piercing questions, it quickly becomes apparent that they have no plan other than to say high-minded, vain things that they hope will make other people think that they’re smart. The white man makes you give (or sell) some of yourself to him when you become exceedingly successful in his system. It’s amazing how much Eddie Murphy’s demeanor, way of speaking, and countenance have changed in the last 20 years. I honestly don’t think that he feels comfortable being funny unless he’s dressed up as something or somebody because he’s probably inwardly ashamed about what he’s had to do to get to where he’s at.

I myself have not seen the movie and I don’t think it was made to offend anyone. Im sure there is no try to read between the lines in this movie and Im sure it was probably just for comedic entertainment. I don’t think Eddie Murphy would really take part to anything to offend women or his own race for that matter.But if anyone does feel offended you could always write to the producers or something.

Holla back if you feel me

I saw Norbit and it was a good movie…people trying to make this a movie degrading overweight women are being too sensitive and thinking too hard. The role of Respusha could have been played by any woman,fat or skinny, as long as she was mean! I agree with a previous poster that said Norbit is about a man who gets pushed around, not only by an overbearing wife, but by his employer (her brothers)..after being taken advantage of his whole life he finds his balls and stands up for himself..that’s positive..thank you.

Gosh everything has to be so deep Its just a Movie I think it is off the chain funny

Man Judah! that hurt a little. I am black, half Jamaican and half African I understand about being black, I understand my history my roots etc. But unfortunately or fortunately I never had parents from the south, never had to deal with the migration issue from South to North, I never had to grow up in America, but I understand the oppression and the struggles of our people. all over the world. I have lived here for 11 years, LA NYC SOuth BEach and Chicago. But I do have a plan and it was too simple for complex shoulder bearing concious blacks such as yourself. I am one too. But unlike you I do give fuck about other cultures and thats where it begins. I have three children, two had the privilige to travel and live in London for a while and see how different cultures lived, not because they needed to but they saw a difference, they saw police who did’t carry guns, people who were not called overweight mammies and ridiculed on tv as much, but they also see how white’s colonialism and other europeaniztion of OUR culture, beauty has transpired. they see how other ethnic groups such as asians, the irish etc have been ostracized throughout the years. I was simply saying, if people like you and I JUDAH know this then OUR EDUCATUION OF OUR KIDS may make a difference. But if you don’t believe that then your kids and your outlook on this generation is negative and pessimistic at best. Eddie Murphy Micheal Jackson Welsey Snipes and a lot of black men who it appears have an issue with dark beautiful full black women are acting and raising kids based on their experiences. I refuse to let my kids think that this is all they have because to my concious rational thinking knowledge it isn’t.

And if knowledge truly is power, isn’t it a shame you don’t care about learning who is doing what with HIP HOP elsewhere (if HIp Hop is a culture and art form you truly love) and if not hip hop any art form period that you have an interest in, you should be aware of how it is represented around the world, or you become like the people you chastise. Undeducated at worst, or suffer from a lack of knowledge at best. Either way you are not as informed as you think you are or want to be all based on the strength of a wonderfully created phrase which seems to encompass all things when people like just what they know ” I don’t care about…….”

No, I did not find it offensive! Those overweight African American women who do find it offensive need to lose weight. The problem is not the movie, but themselves…they see themselves in the movie and recognized with it. I say, if making movies like this will stop those fat women from eating and gaining weight that is not heathly for them, then Martin and Eddie do it one more time for the BIG Fat A@! women. Lose the weight– its not heathly for you! Good job Eddie . I thought the movie was funny as hell. Its funny because I think we all can find a Raspusha somewhere at our place of business, home or may be in ourselves. Raspusha is nasty looking and Ghetto fabulous. If you identify with her than lose the damn weight and change your ways!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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