FIRST! AH HA!

Thats Embarassing!

Thats Karma

This dummy is probably gay himself. smh.

GAYS HATIN’ ON OTHER GAYS…HMMM, DON’T MAKE NO SENSE! HARDAWAY IS SO FAR ON THE DL HE CAN’T EVEN SEE STRAIGHT! WHAT A HYPOCRITICAL IDIOT!

who cares…it’s his opinion…and yeah he shoulda kept it to himself but the media needs to chill out wit all that there! but oh to be a fly on the wall of that locker room!! DAMN!

That was weird. Well, he shouldn’t have made cracks about gay people. In the words of Miss Alicia Keys: “What goes arounds comes around, what goes goes up must come down…”

I cant see the damn video but oh well. Sings Alicia Keys song *What gooooesss around, comes around, What goes up, must cooommeee Downnn!”.

Love,Peace,&&Honeyy

Question: Why is everyone free-balling for as long as they are?..They’re like walking around, bending over, rubbing lotion on their asses & shit ….wtf..who does this?

Got dammitt Rnb 4 Life, why the hell you had to say the same exact thing. *Pouts, jumps up and down,and stomps feet”. Its not fair!

Love,Peace,&&Honeyy

#9:

You took the words right out of my mouth. I was gonna ask if it was normal for guys to walk around like that in locker rooms. The whole thing was just bizarre.

Sorry but his azz is on point. See the guys should be in the video backin it up! Seriously I am over here sweatin like a slave. Baby got back!!!!! lol

Saffire, it’s not my fault!! It just got posted before yours.

That’s what his ass get’s. Don’t look like he had to much of a problem letting his shit hang like that with no draws on in front of all those men. I gotta say this tho. He must be working with sumtin. Usually dudes with small things, dont walk around like that, like it’s nothing. Dudes that got it, don’t give a damn. Did yall notice his booty is big?

LMAO..this shyt isn’t abnormal locker room behavior for a man or a woman, well, that’s because I have used a locker room a time or two. According to youtube this shyt is from like ‘99…next….

Okay, why do gay people care what people think, they get all mad and act like being gay is something normal, its not. I mean, If someone is gay to me personally I dont have a problem with it, but if someone else does thats their opinion. THey crack me up how they have to go on Tyra and Maury and Jenny Jones and complain that they are being treated wrong. So what that this guys said he hated Gays, who cares?!! Is this the guy you are worshipping, how is he hurting you if he said that he hates gay people. SO WHAT!!?

wow. who was the gaywad recording naked dudes in the locker room anyways. yikes. no thats GAY.

NOW WE ALL HAD TO TAKE A SHOWER IN GYM CLASS AND YOU KNOW YOU BE STANDING BEHIND THE LOCKERS GETTING DRESSED, AND IF YOU STARED AT ANYONE, U WERE CONSIDERED GAY!

Im sorry but I find any aman who is comfortable being booty naked infront of other men onlookers are GAY!but uhhh anyway,his booty is deelishis!:)Im so glad I caught this b4 they delete it:)

TIGHT BOOTIE HUH? Cant see the video either, but Im sure I aint missin NOTHIN

Maybe it’s just me but I hope that isn’t normal locker room behavior for grown men.

#21…YEAH WHITE BOYS!!

“DUDE LET ME SEE HOW LONG YOURS IS DUDE”!!

Standing behind lockers? That must be some high school shyt. Hope none of y’all who think it’s strange ever join the military cause u will be showering and changing in front of 20+ people…be real.

did i mention it looks like u could bounce a quarter off his ass!!

There’s nothing unusual about this video. This is typical locker-room behavior, especially with sports teams. So just the fact that it’s a bunch of guys in the locker-room naked doesn’t make it GAY exactly.

I DO wonder why someone was filming this though, and the camera pretty much stayed focused on him. Now THAT’S pretty gay. He had to know someone was filming his ass (in the literal sense).

#15 - You are right. I really didn’t see what was interesting about these videos. They hardly insinuate that he is gay or that there is anything suspect going on. And to be honest the video isn’t that embarassing. It’s a bunch of naked athletes in the locker room. That’s how they get down. It was like that in high school. It was like that in college. And I’m sure it’s like that in professional sports. Actually, it’s like that at the gym. Big deal.

LMAo @ #12

Oh and #26 I have to agree. The peeping tom that is filming him is suspect. WTF??

he seemed waaaaaaaaaaaaay to comfortable walking around wit his joint all out. and it don’t take all that long to lotion yaself. and they ain’t see dude taping them?

WAAAAYYY TOO MUCH D1CK AND LOTION ALL CLOSE TOGETHER IN ONE ROOM…IM JUST SAYIN’.

#16 People can hate you enough to kill you, which is often what happens to many gays. People are crazy these days, when somebody is that bothered by a person being gay enough to hate them, you better not take it lightly. Sooner or later gay people were bound to get tired of being beat or killed.

whaaaaat

Psychologist will tell you folks, when you hate something, or put too much energy into working against something, that something is more than likely you.
Religious people often speakout against gays, yet there’s nothing in the original bible about gays. Yet, the bible does affirm slavery, not just on earth, but in the hereafter.
There are over 100 species of gay animals(do the research). I can’t worry about others, I am still working on my 40 acres and a mule.
I live in a major city, a big sports town. Went in for knee surgery a few years ago, and the major doc told me that a significant number of male athletes are either gay, or bi-sexual.
The conversation came up because I told him I couldn’t get my daughter to go to WNBA games with me because it’s an open-secret that a number of the
ladies are gay.
Live your life folks, and unless someone’s impeding your progress, MIND YOUR BUSINESS.

well if he said hate than its different.but if he don’t like them than who care,what they gone do send him to rehab?im bout getting tired of these folks like fa real make a deal about every fucking thing.

It’s not normal… Maybe in the NBA where you are with these guys on the road and at home for 6-7 months out of the year. I wouldn’t know about that. But in normal locker rooms it’s not like this. Not even in the military, sorry. I have been in 11 years and it ain’t like that, the only time you shower around anyone is any basic training or in a lcoker room, which happens at all gyms. Ameichi said NBA locker rooms were the most flambouyant place he had ever been and he is gay!!! HMMMMM…

His self-hating most likely gay self felt pretty at ease walking around with that big juicy ass he got and in the 4th vid on my life for like 2 seconds his ass was nicely bent down in front of that dude’s face lmfao.

His self-hating most likely gay self felt pretty at ease walking around with that big juicy ass he got and in the 4th vid on my life for like 2 seconds his ass was nicely bent down in front of that dude’s face lmfao.

His body was looking right back then….I wanted to see his pinga lol.

i don’t care how many times he apologizes. he’s a homophobe, and i literally hope he chokes on all his hatred. and i think the point of these videos is:

1. first and foremost, to embarass him. he had to open his mouth and inject himself into something that didn’t concern him at all, so thats what he gets. its karma. (not to mention him badmouthing another black man who is doing something positive in the mainstream/white media like that, is just counterproductive to us as a community. why can’t he talk about 50 “i got shot 9 times” cent?)

2. if it wasn’t an assault on his manhood to be naked in a locker room for a long ass time around other men, then why should homosexuality threaten him? 1 out of every 10 people is gay, i can gurantee there was at least 1 gay/bi man in there with him. he never said anything about being accosted by a gay man in the locker room or in the league, so obviously nobody gay ever tried anything with him. why is he so hateful? got something to hide?

and i don’t get why it matters to anyone whether or not the person filming him was gay.

oh i meant i hope he literally chokes on all his hatred.

this is too funny!

POOR THING, AND WHAT’S UP WITH GUY IN THE BACKGROUND RUBBING THE HELL OUT OF HIS DICK LOL

WHATS REALLY GOOD?!?!?

DAMN I CANT VIEW IT AT WORK SHIT SHIT SHIT!!!

He got a nice body. I thought it was going to be something crazier though.

Pissed as hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*on my way over to youTube* before they take it down.

WEll one things for sure, Tim has a nice ass!
I wonder who the hell taped this shit.

These videos have been around for 4 years or more, so they weren’t taken as payback. They might have been reposted as payback but they are not new.

He got a nice ass…he should show it off more often….Strut that ass son…
what exactly is gay about this video??? who have time to be ducking and hiding with the amount of time these guys have to spend together….you have to be real immature to let someone being naked make you feel uncomfortable….never seen a dick before…geez
And who say we have to like everybody…as Sister Patterson said…’it ain’t no Khumbaya Khumbaya up in here’….shit if you can’t speak your fucking mind without some lil bitch complaining….Isn’t America suppose to be the land of the free????

I guess guys are just different from girls cuz we never walked around the looker room like that… Don’t get me wrong, there was always one or two girls who were proud of their bodies and did not mind walking around naked, but for the most part we all got dressed underneath our towels… That’s some real exhibitionist type of stuff right there!!!

Tim has a girls booty…ugh gross.

My thing is he is entitled to his opinion…He should not have made it publicly….but things are hyped out of proportion when we deal with celebrities….

I don’t see anything wrong with the video..because everyone in the locker room is naked at some point and it has to be the norm because they always shower after the game….

Again he is entitled to his opinion like we are…

I loved watching TH play back in the day. He could hit those 3’s in Reggie Miller’s face and he had a sick crossover. Like I said, that was back in the day. I don’t think his downfall was what he feels, it’s the fact that he said it. The guy was representing the brand of a major league company for God’s sakes. It’s called decorum Tim… duh. I personally feel dl men are the most homophobic. They’re constantly worried their shame will come to light. Oh would you look at that… I made a point… I’ll be damn.

I DON’T KNOW ABOUT ATHLETES BUT I DO KNOW THAT THIS IS NORMAL BEHAVIOR FOR WOMEN. WHEN I’M IN THE GYM’S LOCKER ROOM I FEEL SO UNCOMFORTABLE. THE WHITE WOMEN BE BUTT NAKED, TALKING AND LAUGHING AND STUFF…I HAVE TO KEEP MY TOWEL ON TO PUT ON MY UNDIES. ANYWAYS,I DON’T SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THE TAPE, ATLEAST WE DON’T SEE ANY GAY ACTION GOING ON…

Ya’ll are still catching feelings? People haven’t forgettenn about this yet? Somebody asked him a question, he answered it HONESTLY but, no, he wasn’t supposed too, and now nobody can let it go. SMH. Whether he’s wrong or right, somebody asked and he gave his honest OPINION, just so happens he did it with harsh words.

Why did people ask questions then get mad when they don’t hear the answer they wanna hear?

But this attempt at…whatever, is so weak. What’s this accomplishing except exposing the camera man is gay and the athletes act like athletes (meaning normal opposed to a gay night club) in the locker room.

How is what he said any different from your favorite rapper calling people gay and fags in their songs?? Different words same message. You hypocrites can talk when you stop dancing to kanye west, jay-z, nas, and the list goes on. Either that or put them on blast too, not just this dude.

Whether the men walk around butt booty nekked or not is usually dependent on the relationship they have as sportsmen. Men and women act differently in locker rooms because there’s a different dynamic. That’s why for the longest time they tried to keep women sportscasters out of the locker rooms. Men are very “free” in locker rooms.

This tape shows nothing unusual, especially since this was during the pre-”Down Low” era. What I think is interesting is that someone focused on HIM and HIM alone the ENTIRE time they were filming. What’s up with that? Did he know he was being filmed? And if it was a hidden camera, that’s some foul sh!t. You don’t violate people like that. That’s uncalled for. But I feel little sympathy. He called gay people out and now someone’s trying to put him on blast. Oh well. Life’s a b!tch.

Gay people stay losing. why? b/c you know you call somebody or hear somebody being called gay everyday in an offensive manner (ex: that’s gay!, your gay!) and then when somebody speaks out about them that person gets called gay in the same manner! (ex: Tim hardaway’s gay!)

^That’s such a grade 2 comeback response btw. i’m talking about saying TH is on the DL. something my 9 year old would say.

bottom line, you still ain’t helping gay people by callling TH gay. you’re just doing what everybody else does.

holla

Of course he gets no love for that wack-ass apology…I know that everyone is entitled to their opinions but when you are in the public eye a certain amount of discretion should be used when making comments. I mean thats only common sense and obviously Tim’s ass is seriously lacking that knowledge…

I think people that hate others just b.cuz of their sexuality, race, religious views, etc. need some psychiatric help. I mean to not agree with homosexuality or disliking homosexuality is one thing…but to go off the deep end and say you HATE people you never met just b.cuz of something that “supposedly” has nothing to do with you is plain crazy.

He needs help, Isiah Washington needs help, Michael Richards needs help and countless others…it is pretty sad when you think about it.

Life is to short to dwell on the Hype. It would be in good taste for ol boy to Tame the words that come out of his mouth next time & all this would be obsolete.

ok, let’s be serious…. how much lotion does the man actually need????? how ashy is he - that he feels the need to continually lotion himself in slooooow motion… is it because he unconsciously wishes one of the other players were rubbing down….

that’s all i’m going to say about that.

Okay, call me ignorant or whatever, but this dude’s got that gay face. Or gay gene, or whatever.
Didn’t see the locker room pics, but those remarks and that face says it all.

WTF???? That fool HAS to be gay!! I don’t know of any STRAIGHT brothas who would be just hanging out in a locker room just chilin’ with a bunch of other naked men! They all just seemed a little too cozy and comfortable! Besides, that’s probably why he was claiming to hate gays. He didn’t want the public to know HE was one of them!! LOL!!

Soo Stupid. Soooooo Stupid.

What is the big deal with this man putting lotion on himself. IT IS A LOCKER ROOM!!!! For Goodness sakes if you cannot put lotion on yourself in the locker room then hell what should he do then. Whoever is that upset dude that release the video should know that gay and straight women are very happy to see black tight booty. This might help him keep this job with the females.

@ 61- And he’s got those “dick-sucking lips” a lot of DL bros seem to have. LMAO!!

they all seem very comfortable in thier naked weird?

#65–Eddie Murphy has those lips too!!

Okay and how does this video tape scream GAY? I don’t understand it. I thought I was about to see him do something that proves he is gay. All I saw was a bunch of men who just came out the shower, drying themselves off and putting on lotion. Now the dude that was video taping this madness is gay.

All I was thinking about while watching this tape was dayum I just wanna smack that a$$. Dude got a nice piece of a$$. Thanks for the eye candy this morning though.

This footage does not make Hardaway gay or even allude to such necessarily.

However, I would think the more respectful thing would be to put on your underwear and then lotion up. Yes, he is desensitized to being naked around his teammates, but that does not mean you have to strut (is that the word I am looking for?) around the locker room like that. A little disrespectful and he should not let himself get so comfy. Just plain bad manners.

These celebs should know by now that it pays to keep your mouth shut. I have no problem with him not liking gays, I don’t even mind that he said it, but most other people do and he should have known that. nice butt though.

@58

I was just about to say dat

What’s the point of this video? I’m a bit confused, it’s rare that a man is going to be embarrassed about being naked, especially if his body looks this good.

All they did was increase this man’s popularity, especially-to those of us who don’t watch sports to begin with, now I’ll always remember his name.

America has become to sensitive, I don’t agree with what he said, but he does have the right to say it. Not everyone is okay nor believes that homosexuality is right.

Before anyone starts preaching to me about homosexuality, let me say I have a brother who is gay and I love him to death-irregardless, but I must admit it’s a hard pill to swallow during the holidays watching the two of them interact-especially romantically-I don’t think that’s something I’ll ever get used to seeing-doesn’t seem natural. But hey what can I say or do about it’s his life and I damn sure aint gonna stop loving him or being his sister because of it.

To #49 (TriniB) and others.

YES, this is America, and you do have freedom of speech. However, you do not have freedom to HATE speech. That what he said was threatening, inappropriate and disrespectful. Not to mention the fact that it just made him sound completely primitive.

It was as if he let the interviewer play him- i.e. ask the Black man about one of his flashpoint topics and the beast is released. That was weak. He should not let someone lure him into responding in that manner. He has no interview or communications skills.

he definitely had some sort of experience with a gay man to be that mad at them. he’s for sure on the DL but i do like his butt lol usually don’t look at men’s butts but it was pretty nice

Tim got a BIG Ass! I’m a female so I like men’s asses–but his ass is bigger than mine. I couldn’t get with a dude with a big jiggly ass. And he just flaunting that thing around in the video..swingin his dick in teammates’ faces. Yup..he’s gay. Just like most athletes.

Who in the world would take pictures of this? This seems gay! He looks nice. What was the purpose of showing this?

Paris Hilton calls us Black women big butt ho’s from Compton and calls us Niggers, and nothing gets said. She also was calling men faggots, and fat Jewish bitches, but nothing get said, she keeps her endorsement deals, Fila being one of them. But he makes a comment, which is his opinion, and it is a whole bunch of bullshit. America is double standard period!

Freedom not only to say what you want but to let others say something even if it’s completely opposite to what you believe and gets you mad…it’s one way or the other….what’s good for one should be good for everyone…but some how you say something about gays and everybody up in arms….It’s the over sensitive hypocritical bullshit I have a problen with….You can call the president the devil but God forbid you say something about gays….sign of the times.

he might be homophobic but he sure got a nice ass…i love a man with a nice fat ass……….ohhhhhhhhhhhhh

#76 That is the whole point! America is a contradiction in motion and it seems happy to tear a Black person down. Hence, we have to live above reproach and hold ourselves to a higher contemporary standard.

You dislike gays? That is fine. However, do not go public with this foolishness.

Hardaway could have easily said something like, “It’s about winning and the supporting the team, Gay/str8 it does not matter. It’s all about the game.” Instead, he took the conversation other dubious places.

He is an attractive, successful Black man in the public eye. There is no need for him to act that way.

whatever happened to the kids in Clemson who had the party to ‘celebrate’ Martin Luther King Bday and painted their faces black and ducked taped 40’s to their hands???? Freedom baby….
Bunch of fucking jokers running the media (and America)..

@77TRINIB:
What the fuck yu know about sign of the times, OH SHIT- here comes the religious wannabees. Here you are with an avatar of a woman caressing a man’s bare azz and you wanna talk about sign of the times and get all analytical, bitch pleeze!

Okay, I agree that as a public figure one needs to watch what one says. So yes, Tim should have used some decorum. But what the Fuc%ked is up with the reverse psychology sh*t? Not liking gay or the gay lifestyle doesn’t mean you are gay. When white folks say they hate blacks, does that mean they really want to be black? So why is it that when someone says they hate gays they want to be gay? Although gay seems to be in-vogue these days, there are millions of Americans who think and say the same thing everyday with friends and family, but the only difference is that they are not black and famous.

When I force myself to listen some of these so called conservative talk show/garbage, some of the comments that are made on these shows are just as WACK as what Tim said, so why is it that the Gay Mafia doesn’t rain down fire on them? Is it cause they white and got money? Hmmm

In terms of the video, I don’t see anything wrong with it. In women’s locker room you see the same sh*t, especially from white girls.

Who ever was filming must have a thing for Tim, maybe this is why he so fu*king pissed off. He probably had an encounter that made him uncomfortable as hell. LOL

#76–Paris Hilton said what? Where have I been? When did she say this? Did CL report this? Don’t u know I will have my Cali friends beat that chick’s ass next time she’s in the club if its true?

(sorry, i didn’t mean to be off-topic)

#80..did you hear about the white frat boys at Johns Hopkins (here in baltimore)..who had a “Halloween in the Hood” party. I think it was on national news. These white folks were wearing saggy pants, gold chains, were drinking 40s, and hung skeletons by nooses. NAACP was all over that.

ARen’t dudes always butt ass naked in locker rooms? Why that person was filming, I shall never know!

Tim Hardaway got a nice ass though!

And lastly, I didn’t know dudes lotioned their wee wee’s!

@76 - I agree. When it comes to the gay mafia raining down fire on non whites who make homosexual slurs, the media seems to go crazy. I have noticed that they rarely make this much noise when white folks say the same damn sh*t. why is that?

keep the sh*t consistant.!!

@ 80 - u see, the media is defining and controling our reality, there we are going to focus on what they want us to focus on. They did’t want us to focus on the racist ass mofo at Clemson, and Paris (racist ass) Hilton, but they want us to focus on Tim H, and we fall for it all the time.

And I just wanted to say that I don’t agree with same sex relationships either but that’s their business and I still treat them like I would want to be treated, but I cringe everytime I hear them compare their struggle to the African-American/Black struggle. Cannot compare. A person can conceal who they choose to have sex with, we cannot hide the fact that we are Black.

This hidden film could explain why Tim hates you foul creatures! African men and women walk around with their bare asses all the time! The locker room has a shower with multiple showerheads, so men and women are gonna see each other naked!

I hate you gay, excuse me…I hate homosexuality just like the word says the Lord does! I’m trying to be politically correct, but when someone sneaks a camera into the locker room, the gay culture suffers a black eye! Again, I hate the sin, not the sinner! Okay!

This hidden camers behavior hits at the core of the problem of men wanting sex with other men! These same gay men are high school coaches and doctors who sneak peeks and set up hidden cameras.

Tianna, I’m a little amazed that you posted this topic at midnight and all the gay folks just happen to log on and state their cases at 2:00 AM in the morning! WTF?? Is there a hotline that I don’t know about? lol

Also Tianna, I don’t know if you made up the title: “What happens when you say you hate gays people”, but the hidden video happened long before he said he hated them! Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Some $#!T just seems so crafty and random like quoting Alicia Keys “What goes around”! That’s some random $#!T! Self-serving?

And, you street corner Psychologist need to quit it! If a hidden camera incident don’t demostrate perversion to you, nothing will! Stop calling Tim gay until you have proof!

Now, let me get back to the locker room! Many of you who have daughters…and sons should have watched Oprah yesterday. O’Riley was the guess speaker and they said that there are millions of sex offenders roaming the streets…unregistered! One man had been raped since he was a child and thought he was doing the normal thing! It was a show that you straight people should watch before you start preaching let by-gone be by-gones! Sex offenses and homosexuality are tied together! Men and women searching the net for young boys and girls!

Tim has a right to hate gays if one of them took hidden camera photos of him rubbing his ownself ass! What’s the world coming to when you can’t rub lotion on yo own ass after a shower! I could care less about my ass being ashy, but I respect the rights of others to have a shiny ass! lol

A few years ago, Venus and Serena requested seperate lockers when they noticed Marresmo and Navatilova commenting and looking at them in the showers. Oprah pointed out that the gays are clever to make the unsuspecting victim feel like he or she is part of the process! That way, your son or daughter won’t talk until they start getting abused! And, O’Riley Factor say the abuse is sure to follow!

I suggest that y’all get off of Tim and get back to the real issues of perversion that goes on in gay bath houses, nightclubs and public locker rooms! When gays join the club, its not long before the whole herd shows up! Homosexuality is like a cancer! It needs to be radically eradicated! Chemotherapy and pills don’t always work!

CL gays have one of the best medical teams in the country helping them to get that $#!T out! JQueen is like the Chemotherapist breaking it down so you can flush it out! And, Judah is like the Osteopathic expaining the relationships and proper diets! The Dukesmann is like the Pharmicist providing prescriptions medicine! But, I only know catharsis and Surgery! I’m a cut and burn man! The Surgeon who is not afraid to make the cut! I know how deep to cut, but every now and then, I lose a patient or two! ops!

I try not to make my points with a lot of scriptures and bible, because therein lies the reason why gays hide in the closet…like Adam and Eve when they hid in the garden! You can’t hide from God! I don’t use sweet logic, because you’ll just keep on living the lifestyle if everyone sugarcoats for you!

The healing takes a sincere heart to change or…the end will be discruction!

Here we go with the wannabe screenwriters and the religious know-it-alls all up in this peice.
What started out as a conversation about the DL Tim changes into a “why you should fear and hate gays” sermon.
All this is coming from a faggot himself who is obsessed with female gossip.
*exits room with luggage in hand*

Judah! where are you when your internet boyfriend needs backup?

I just hope you read every word, because it will help you or drive you back into your closet! Either you fall on the stone, or the stone will fall on you!

Now, the atricle said: “Hardaway was banished from some NBA-sanctioned appearances he was scheduled to make in Las Vegas as part of the league’s All-Star Weekend over his comments. He also lost at least one of his endorsement deals, plus had his name dropped from advertising at a car wash he owns in Miami.”

Actually, not a high price to pay for a gut renching statement! Sometimes in life you have a choice to either gain the world or you lose your soul! Tim backpeddled in an attempt to have his cake and eat it too! It didn’t matter how he said he hated gay lifestyle, he would have lost those little perks anyhow! If he sticks to his words, God would bless him ten fold!

Funny, I never heard of PMS ING until today! Coalition member???

# 89 Meatloaf your ignorance is beyond comprehension.

You cannot try to be slick by throwing sex offenders on the loose in your post. One has nothing to do with the other. So are we talking about safeguarding children? Or, are we talking about hate speech? Or are we talking about the footage? If you are asserting that some relationship exists b/w these topics then you had better justify it clearly.

Tim H. was not talking about children. There are no children in the locker room. Also, you do not know who filmed the footage and why they did it. Lastly, you cannot assume that person (presumable a male) is/was gay (or even has/had sex with other men).

This has the be the most idiot piece of crap shown to smear someone.

Gay people why do you care what Tim hardaway thinks so what he dont like gay people and trust me there are a lot of people who dont. There are people who dislike mexicans, there are people who dislike blacks, there are people who dislike poor people, there are people who dislike policeman. Give me a break, the man is in a locker room getting dressed. I thought that is what locker rooms are for. So because he is naked with other naked men in an professional athletic locker room he is gay? I happen to think he is not gay and this is a small minded feeble attempt to smear his name more. Stupid!

He got a Nice body! Too bad I didn’t get to see the money shot

In the words of Miss Alicia Keys: “What goes arounds comes around, what goes goes up must come down…”

^

She didn’t make that quote! (sigh!)

What got me about the whole Tim saga is the apology. WTF? U spoke your mind and did the damage, so what the fuck u wanna go back and apologize for? u know when it comes to black celebrities using slurs the media dont’ give a fuck!! once they get u ur got!!

It’s like shooting someone with bullets, then going back to pick up the bullets. It’s no use cause you already killed them.

It’s like when Rush Limbah made his racist comment about black Qbacks, that fat ass pig never did apologized, cause that’s how he felt. ESPN did however canceled his spot.

#81 what does the statement ’sign of the times’ have to do with being a religious freak…just pointing it out….and obviously your sign-on defines you more than my pic…lol…another sensitive punk….get over yourself

Ya know, I view hate as the offspring of FEAR. When people are fearful or THREATENED by something, they tend to begin to hate that thing/person/concept.
*Many Whites fear Blacks b/c they want to remain the dominant race.
*Some ppl hate Mexicans b/c they complain that the Mexicans are taking away their employment opportiunities and filling up their neighborhoods.
*Every race has dislike for gays b/c they think gays are gonna take over the world and destroy their children and their beliefs (of course, not realizing many gays are born gay).
So what do ya do when you FEAR something and have ZERO control over it? You HATE it
And the list goes on and on…
Shit–we humans are and always be very primitive. We just can’t fucking get along, can we?

93. TheBoyAboutTown, Are you closeted?? I never heard of you! Anyhow!!!

The show on Oprah did make a correlation between gay men and sex offenders! One man had molested over 100 boys! If that ain’t some gay $#!T, I don’t know what is!

And yes, there are children in the locker rooms of high schools and and jr. highs all over America! Lesbian women and men who instruct P.E. and coach sport teams are preying on these children all the time!

This is the worst kind of “getting turned out” when someone is paid as a coach or teacher to guide children, but instead they manipulate them into sexual favors and soon rape! Contact any black college and inquire about the experiences of the 17 year-old recruit.

I know a woman coach who moved the star point guard from foster care into her home! That girl is now her mate! So, don’t pretend that homosexuality is an isolated event. The recruitment is organized and deadly!

I made no more assumptions than the gays did at 2:00 AM who called Tim gay! I don’t see you jumping down their monitor! Who ever shot that video, shot some gay $#!T! It was perverted!! Only men are permitted in the NBA’s men shower area!

Is that justification enough for you! Now, who’s ignorance is beyond comprehension? hehe! Also, nothing I say will be clear to you if you’re closeted!

Please, explain to me why you are so pushed over the fact that gay men and lesbians prey on children???

97. I’m sure he honestly feels that way but had I’m sure his “people” told him to apology because he is a public figure and they have to do things like apologize for safety and public image.

Meatloaf…

You said something about him sticking to his words, and him being blessed ten fold by God. The Lord isn’t about hate and has no part of it. He is against things we do but he doesn’t believe in hate. So he’s not getting blessed for his feelings of hatred at all. Him saying that is just as much as sin as the NBA player having sex with another man. Anyone who really knows the word will tell you that no sin is greater than the other, so to throw stones is idiotic and a sin in itself.

My beliefs are againt this but I still lie, cuss, and other stuff too so I can’t say I hate someone for sinning just like I do, then I would jsut be saying I hate myself too. What people choose to do is between them and their God.

#98: STFU
MEATLOAF- Go away you are a a living plague, you black bastard.

#88-I agree with you 100%. Gays can not compare their struggle to the shit black folks have had to put up with. They have never been lynched, hosed. They can’t even compare their struggle to the Jews of the Holocaust. Homophobia and Racism–TWO SEPARATE ENTITIES. I’m a moderate Democrat, the reason I consider myself a MODERATE Democrat is because I don’t agree with a lot of the gay rights proposals in my state. Why the heck should people get SPECIAL rights because of their SEXUALITY? HETEROSEXUALS dont’ get any special treatment. Is this country so damn horny that our sexuality must define who we are? Let’s end racism first, then we’ll get to gay rights later.

Meatloaf, if you read my earlier comments, at #69 (no pun intended) you would see that I stated, “This footage does not make Hardaway gay or even allude to such necessarily.” That is in direct response to the notion that this footage or TH’s comments must mean that he has something to hide and is a closeted gay man. That theory is busted and just plain wrong. You can hate gay people without actually being one.

Now, pedophiles do exist. Some are str8, others are bi, and you have a healthy contingent of gay ones (or those who prefer sex with people of the same sex). However, I take issue with the way you present that in the context in which you did. You raise the issue not for the benefit of children, but for the benefit of your argument about the dangers of gays.

TH’s comments had nothing to do with that and neither dif the forage. Yes, children are in locker rooms and gyms everywhere, but your arguments need not be so misleading and presumptuous. Pedophiles and pedophiliac acts occur in all forms- man/boy, man/girl, woman/boy, woman/girl- so you cannot present it as though it is only a “gay” thing. That is ludicrous. You are improperly using that as evident to support your claims, which makes your argument totally void.

Black people should consider this:

Would we be so forgiving if the offender was white and the rhetoric in question was racist? No, I’m sure we would not be.

The level of homophobia in the black community is astounding. What’s also astounding is how black people defend their own bigotry by utilizing hypocrisy: “Racism and homophobia aren’t the same thing, so it’s okay to hate gay people, even gay black people.”

Blacks don’t even realize (or maybe we do realize and choose to sublimate) how much their rationalization of homophobia sounds like the white supremacist rationalization of racism. And we use the same tactics and tools as the white supremacists: hatred, violence and religion.

Racism and homophobia ARE NOT the same thing. Since when was our sexuality compared to our skin color?? Earth to BOBBY!!!! I have a few gay friends, and I love them. I am NOT homophobic. But i tell them all the time: “I’m sick of yall whining and crying about every little damn law in the constitution.” Because as a black woman, I’m still in the struggle, and I’ll be damned if a gay white man is going get better treatment than me–you feel me!!!!

And in my previous post–I was referring mainly to gay white men. Gay blacks can relate to the racial struggles.

@ 100- straight ppl prey on children as well. though i was never physically touched by an older man, i got many stares and knew what they were thinking. nasty ass perverts. hell watch “to catch a predator” on nbc. most of the predators are straight men. if you’re a perv, you’re a perv regardless of sexual preference

@76- the thing is that was a home vid and that was never released (it was taken down from youtube so i doubt a lot of ppl saw it). obviosuly what paris did was wrong but a home vid won’t get as much attention as a radio interview. think about it, if paris had said that on the radio, do u really think ppl wouldn’t have said something? i think they would, but anyway she’s a woman and i don’t feel that women get as punished 4 things like this as men do

@ 77- you can callt he prez a devil but you’ll get backlash. look at how the dixie chicks (that country group) got in major trouble b/c the lead singer said bush made her ashamed to be from texas. ppl were outright burning their cd’s and radio stations boycotted them. they came back full force but still. same with homophobic comments. u can say it but get ready for the consequences. besides those are diff things. call bush a devil, he’s just one person but saying u hate a whole group of ppl when you don’t know all of them is a lot worse

@ 86- how many white people (minus religious fanatics) do you know say on tv or the radio that they hate gays? when they do, ppl do talk about it

@ 97- did Mel Gibson apologize fr his remarks? yes! did Michael Richardson apologize for his? yes! it’s called pr hun. you gotta apologize no matter what your race is. you can’t just take one person as an example of how whites don’t apologize and blacks do

This video is all up in Timmy’z cake mix! Work that Duncan Hinez boi!

And Dixie Chicks still #1 female group
Nice comeback #102…lol…thanx…most fun I’ve had on CL thus far…
Yawn…I’m out

BMORESERIOUS:

You miss the lessons of Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr. and even Jesus the Christ: If one of us is oppressed, we are ALL oppressed.

You are so caught up in not wanting gay white people to have “more rights than you” (which is the most ridiculous prospect I have ever heard. How is allowing gay people equal rights giving them MORE rights than you? Do you know that was the EXACT same logic and argument whites used when blacks wanted equal rights? They were afraid, just like you’re afraid.) that you don’t even see that this is EXACTLY what straight white people want you to be focused up. Because while you’re out there ensuring that no one has “more rights than you” the straight white man is ensuring that you’re not doing anything to maintain the rights you already have.

@ 103
http://www.gaydarradio.co...annel=2&nChannel=News

http://www.homanla.org/New/outragereport.htm
http://www.sare.org/sanet...ml-home/28-html/0297.html

gay people have been lynched. it’s true that their history is different from ours (they were not forced into slavery, taken fromt heir homes, etc.) and their lynichings are not systematic but killing is killing and lynching is one form used to kill ppl. we’re not the only ones who have to watch our backs when we go into certain neighborhoods.

@105 Bobby - Personally, not being a religious person, I don’t condone hate of anykind and don’t hate gays.I don’t give a fuck what folks do in their bedrooms, but at the same time i don’t agree with the lifestyle period. It’s like white folks who don’t want to live next to black folks. I don’t want to live next to them either, as long as I have equal access to equal opportunity. I feel the same way about homosexuals.

If you don’t like them, fuck it that’s your problem, but give them equal access to live their lives.

On another note,no one is saying it’s okay for blacks to hate gay people, what some of us are saying is that you can’t equate the two. You cant equate the struggle of black folks to being a homosexual. You can’t campare the millions of blacks killed to white racism. You cant equate the rape and dehumanizatin of our mothers, fathers,brothers, etc, to being homosexual.

You can’t equate the thousands of black men who hung from trees in every corner of the US and beyond to homosexuality. you cant equate the thousands of black wonmen who were raped by white men to the struggles of homosexuality.

And not everyone who says i don’t agree with the lifestyle hates homosexuals. I was chilling with my gay friends yesterday and this discussion came. U know what, they know exactly where i stand on homosexuality, but at the same time they know without a doubt that i love them like family.

99. Natural Mystic, I know you noticed that I got a 100 on my reaponse! lol

I tried to put your philosophy to a test and it failed miserably! You said: “I view hate as the offspring of FEAR. When people are fearful or THREATENED by something, they tend to begin to hate that thing/person/concept.”

God and I hate evil! But, the word said, “ye though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil”!

I hate pedophiles, but I don’t fear them! I hate mamipulative women, but I don’t fear them! I feel threatned by racial profiling, but I don’t fear it!

You must be delusional if you think whites fear blacks! Maybe they fear the ones on 106 and Park, but that’s just an hour show! hehe! Go down south on a Saturday night and see how whites parade the streets with confederate flags on back of pickups.

And, leave the mexicans alone, hell they making beds and picking tomatoes. They can have those jobs! lol And, the distain for gays is not a racial issue! WTF? hehe! You said: “Every race has dislike for gays”! Where do you get this $#!T???
Homophobia is more of a religious matter! Me and Jesus are the homophobics, but not me and Dick Chaney! hehe! Fortunately, most Americans say they serve God!

And, contrary to your belief, the people do have control over homosexuals! You can’t enjoy the benefit of each others marriage like normal people! You have to call your relationship a “civil union”, not a marriage! Health benefits, retirement sharing and public displays are taboo! Oh yeah, we got yo ass in check! Don’t ever think differently! Closeted or not! Hell, the closet is a form of control! No one is in fear of that random $#IT! And, when one of you dies, all of your “civil union” wealth goes into probate! The States that permit gay unions are the ones with the highest number of sexual offenders! God has control!

So, stop making all these jail-house philosophical remarks if you can’t give some proof! Natural Mystic, if you’re not too closeted I have a question for you, were you born lesbian?

Ok..good point Bobby..what I should have said that I dont have a problem with Gays having equal rights than everyone else, because I am truly adamant about the struggle for EQUAL rights. HOWEVER, I believe a GAY person should NOT have MORE rights than a BLACK person because they’re GAY. Do you understand me? In other words, sexuality does not have greater weight than race. SEXUALITY should not be considered a more imperative issue than race. This is still AmeriKKKa.

I want a show of hands: Who believes racism and homophobia are the same? This should be a CL survey.

All I wanna know is…
1. who is the dude in Video #2 rubbing lotion on his dick & balls?
**and**
2. How did TH get that booty?! Damn, Can momma have some of that?!?

I don’t see what the big deal is…okay, dude said he hates gays…but he apologized TWICE and he’s still getting grief.

But that CRAMER dude says all those hateful things about us blacks…he gives an obviously BS apology ONCE, and nothing is ever heard about it again!!

Puleezz…spare me this crap.

@ 115…OMG!! *bites bottom lip* By your description of the video…I can’t wait to get home and watch it!!! Lol..I’m such a perv…hahah

MEATLOAF:

The “jailhouse” philosophy that you refer to is embraced by every scientist, psychiatrist, psychologist and great thinker in the world today.

Do your research before you speak out of turn.

ASSHOLE & a NIGGER!

101. Megan, I hate to bust your bubble, but there are some things that God hates! HE HATES! He allows a whole city to flood or a great building to fall, because of things that he hates! Don’t be fooled into an image of God that is onesided! God has many sides and his wrath is directly connected to things that He hates! I know He’s longsuffering, but He is also just!

Now, listen closely! There are no straight men preying on young boys! There are no straight women preying on young girls! These are gay acts! @HBIC that was for you too! Gay men commit 99% of sexual abuse against boys. Only gay men rape boys!

Women are slightly more decent when it comes to raping young girls, but women are severily promiscuous with men and each other! Why you think black women’s HIV counts are the fastest growing? God knows what He’s doing!

And, don’t forget all the Catholic priest who ruin the lives of young boys! These are gay acts! So, in my opinion, any act of homosexuality can be linked to some sexual abuse or offense!

Just place a call to Howard or Hampton and ask to speak to the clinic nurse! Tell her you are doing a research on “Highschool who get turned out”! The nurse will tell you the truth as a health professional! And, “getting turned out” doesn’t equal “being born that way”!

Megan, I know you feel it your christian duty to love and cope, but God wants us to be wise as serpents…not just harmless as doves! When you get over the shock, you’ll be able to put on the “full armor of God”! We got too many shelds and not enough swords! Stop defending gay rights and start taring down strong holds! We war not against flesh, but principalities in high places! But, we do war, whether you like it or not!

Well I’m know I’m not gay, cause I started drooling,J/K!

Ok, so I know this is the locker room and all that. but what’s up with the dudes that are dressed sitting around watching them get dressed? Really would you sit there and let ya boy’s balls bounce in your face?

Tim Hardaway looked good, just as I imagined. But he should have known better. But now he does.

Gay people are in many positions of power whether they are in or out the closet you have to watch what you say.

We need to remember that we are still Black. Money just changes your account balance. Right on the heels of Isaiah Washington, he should have refrained from answering the question. We are so readily tossed aside and punished for when we speak on things.

Can we get Tim and Isaiah on Ellen to apologize to the gay community?

I don’t recall anyone calling Michael Richards a jerk or pictures of Kramer being taken off Seinfeld DVDs.

Meatloaf, you ain’t nothin but a black devil.
I only read your first and last sentence, as I really don’t have the patience or NEGATIVE spirit to deal with you today. I’m in a wonderful mood today!!
You took a whole post and dedicated it to responding to my 99TH. Thanks.

I have to admit, this has been a very lively discussion. We need more honest discussion on sensitative issues such as these.

However you like it, in the butt, in the vaGG, in ur mouth, under ur feet, ur armpit, ur belly button, etc, to each his own, and do u.

Until the next post, one love, and stay strong

he said what most of us think or feel, but are afraid to say. he probably could of said it a different way, but he has the right to say what he wants. showing a video of him naked in a locker room does nothing. GROW UP! this is America! People have said and done a lot worse!

118. Bobby, I see you quoted everyone (every scientist, psychiatrist, psychologist and great thinker), but the Creator! First of all, you’re use of the word “every” suggest that you are searching! You don’t have it all together! Hate has its place in life just like love has its place! BTW, the word love is abused more often the the word hate!

I guess you want some of my attention, cause you put very little on the table! So, I went back to try and glean some substance from you! It was a struggle, but I found some of your black power thinking!

Yes, we are not all oppressed if one of us is! Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess! I don’t have to be oppressed if Whitney choses to poison herself! And, I don’t have to be Pittiful if you or someone else wants to challenge God! The relationship with God is a personal one and it rains on the just and unjust! What lesson did Jesus teach that makes you oppressed like Mike Tyson, Antwan, Pityful and George Bush?

I want to limit the rights of gays, murderers, pedophiles, rapist, racist or anyone who wishes to offend one of these little ones! I think it would be better if they tied a rope and rock around their neck and cast it into the ocean!

When will you and others stop challenging the political correctness of Tim’s comments and debate the more sever issue of homosexual in the black community! Its (the act, not the person) hated more in the black community, because blacks know the mind of God better than other communities from a spiritual sense!

The intelligence in the black community is just now coming up to speed! We didn’t always know God’s word, but He made sure that we knew what He expected of us even through slavery! Gay people want us to ignor what’s in our hearts. Other communities only have to blank out whats in their minds, but deep in our souls, we know that $#!T is wrong! Blocking the mind is a much easier task for someone tempted by mind rather than soul!

So yes, the black community has been given more responsibility in this area. Consequently, more is expected from us! I have the same question for you if you’re not closeted, were you born gay?

meatloaf…bill orielly right and you know what he did right?so you saying we should listen to him??ummmmm no.

@116 im saying…it seems like something isn’t enough and you people can’t move on i mean damn forgive and move on if you were so whatever you call yourself.

who cares if you gay.im tired mostly black people so quickly downing their own people when they could be uplifting.you people be sooooo suprised at how many white people are laughing and thinking the same he think and the truth but his ass is the only one that would say it.there soo many hypocrites up in here i don’t even want to count.

@111 When your gay, you can hide in the closet.

You can’t compare judging someone’s skin color to sexual preference.

Most of our beliefs about homosexuality come from our religious backgrounds.

It is hard for people when they believe in God and the Bible to tolerate or accept homosexuality. It is hard to not bring that up when addressing this issue.

CL is not the forum for this discussion.

All I can say is treat people the way that you would want to be treated while living in this world. It is not up for you to judge.

Well I don’t think he’s gay. Maybe he experienced gays looking at him in the wrong way in the lockers and got upset remember he is Hardaway, and gay men would love to look him up and down. This means that the gay men who taped him on the video has been doing this a long time and now Hardaway said what said and the gay man decided to show it to the public. Maybe he had been experience suspicious things for a while and just decided to let it out. Gay people need to start respecting straight people to. My brother had to close his curtins one day cuz this gay man who lives across the street kept looking at his window and my mother had to stop my brother cuz he was about to go and beat the gay man up. This gay who released this video is wrong! he was probably jerking off the video every night and day.

@91

Sis, you’ve got to re-send me your home address. I’m sorry if the autograph didn’t get to you. I give all the credit to the Most High for your anger because His lessons obviously cut your demonic spirit, lol. Does it make you that angry that there are still black men that are actually about something? Now if I repped some gang you wouldn’t have shit to say because I’d be a nigger like you, lmao. Alot of you black people are funny as hell to me. Maybe if you become more constructive in your thought process you could find a “positive” brother to inseminate that decrepit object you call a uterus and you can stop PMS’ing. I give you permission to write my biography when the Lord takes me.

The only “hypocrisy” in hate are the people who deny their hate or lie on the Lord’s Word. You can claim to “not hate” if you want to but please don’t say what the Lord does and doesn’t do if you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. Please, let’s make a distinction between truth and perception; what’s right as opposed to what’s popular.

alleged Someone said that in America you have the right to free speech but not “hate speech”, lol. Who made you or any other man the arbiter between free speech and hate speech? What is hate speech? If it’s something that offends people then everything is hate speech because you can always find someone that gets offended at anything. That’s how you know that America will eventually push to have the Bible declared as hate speech because even “Christians” get “offended” at the Bible’s content. The U.S. government already tried it back in 2005 in a late-night, under the table, legislature but the White Christian Fundamentalists shut it down because they know that the U.S. government is filled with satanists and they have some spies in there.. I always get a kick out of how fascist all these “open-minded” people are. No one said, “let’s kill the faggots”. People just stated their OPINION. It’s really black men’s fault because we haven’t set proper standards for ourselves and now all these outside forces are leading black people astray for the sake of confusion.

He ugly as a mother fucker, and with that said what man or woman would want him? Excuse me while I throw up…

YAY! Meatloaf’s girl Judah’ is here to back him up! No pun intended, y’all! Preach on Judah!

122. Natural Mystic, you couldn’t be in a wonderful mood today, if you calling someone who’s trying to help you with your struggle…”a black devil”! hehe! Is it rare for you to have a wonderful mood? Sometimes God troubles the water!

Its important that you read ever word! Take all that medicine, gurl! hehe! And, feel free to go back and re-read! The truth should be studied, not just read!

I figured that my question about your closetedness/born gay would cause you to retreat! You’re in a good place if that made you feel shame and discraced! At least God knows that you’re not challenging Him…you’re just weak and He’s got you covered!

BTW, a black devil would never point you to God!!! Some of your coalition on “Team Gay”, come on here announcing their homosexuality like Delishious at a big booty contest! lol They are in much worst shape than you!

Its okay to hate me and its even okay if you chose to hate the Lord, but at the end of the day, we still have to answer to God!

Thanks, for making me smile today Meatloaf!
BTW I had a delicious lunch today– curry chicken with coconut rice and peas and some REALLY sweet plantains.
;-)
What did you have???

@ 126

*shifts head with confusion* WTF, I don’t even understand that Mombo Jumbo you just wrote. It just gave me a headache for crying out loud.

You need to re-group and come again…with COMPLETE sentences. Geeze.

126. sharonda said: “bill orielly right and you know what he did right?so you saying we should listen to him??ummmmm no.”

Should you listen to Martin Luther King? Don’t pour the baby out with the bath water! God uses ordinary people! And, some of us are just filthy rags!

Now, if you are a believer, Sharonda, you have to encourage anyone who is publicly speaking out against child abuse! Forgive Bill for what he did, or how can God forgive you for the dirty little things you do sometimes! And gurl, you know you can make it funky! hehe! You be throwing that leg all off the bed and $#!T! lol

I wish you had seen the program on Oprah! David killed a man and took his wife, but God still used him, so don’t flash on a one time offender when there’s so much work to do! Let’s go after the serial offenders who come on CL and pretend that they have the right!

BTW - I’m not a big supporter of Bill or Oprah, but that show was about exposing gay aggression and protecting the little babies, so I concur!

That video made me very uncomfortable. Are all black males gay?

MEATLOAF:

Though I’ve read the BIble several times, I’m not a Christian. So speak to me in terms of reality, not in terms of an antiquated document written by men with an agenda, but claimed it was “divinely inspired.”

If your answer to everything is “because God says so in the Bible”, a book which, by the way, was used to support slavery, then explain to me why so many people are up in arms about homosexuality as an abomination, but not at wearing mixed fabric materials which the Bible also lists as an abomination?

Do you wear mixed fabrics, Meatloaf? Then, according to the very precepts of the religion you are clinging to, a religion, I might add, that was forced upon enslaved Africans by their racist European oppressors, you’re just as guilty as the homosexual in God’s eyes. So it would seem to me that you should spend more time getting your act together than judging homosexual behavior.

GOD HATES FAGS AND POLYESTER!

It stinks in here….smells like sloane, lmao.

133. Natural Mystic said: “BTW I had a delicious lunch today– curry chicken with coconut rice and peas and some REALLY sweet plantains.
;-)

Then she asked:
“What did you have???”

I say:
Man can’t live by curry chicken, coconuts rice and peas alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

i wish he was dwayne wade or reggie bush, now dats a ass i wanna see! ……:(

What in the world, not this again…

I’m staying out of this, this whole debate is miles away from what the actual point of what Tim Hardaway said, especially now that Meatload is involved.

I’ll just comment on one thing.

Judah:

“alleged Someone said that in America you have the right to free speech but not “hate speech”, lol. Who made you or any other man the arbiter between free speech and hate speech? What is hate speech? If it’s something that offends people then everything is hate speech because you can always find someone that gets offended at anything. That’s how you know that America will eventually push to have the Bible declared as hate speech because even “Christians” get “offended” at the Bible’s content. The U.S. government already tried it back in 2005 in a late-night, under the table, legislature but the White Christian Fundamentalists shut it down because they know that the U.S. government is filled with satanists and they have some spies in there.. I always get a kick out of how fascist all these “open-minded” people are. No one said, “let’s kill the faggots”. People just stated their OPINION. It’s really black men’s fault because we haven’t set proper standards for ourselves and now all these outside forces are leading black people astray for the sake of confusion.”

What Tim Hardaway said most definitely falls under the hate speech banner. He attacks a group of people on the basis of their sexual orientation in a public forum. Not only that, but he degrades them and incites violence against them–what kind of reaction do you think one would get from saying “gays shouldn’t be in this country or on this planet”, tolerance? No, that was a call to arms if I ever heard one.

What bothers me is everyone is overlooking the fact that if ANYONE said what Tim Hardaway said but replaced the word “gay” with “black”, black folks would be rioting in the streets. But oh, since it’s only gay people, we just have to sit back and take it? I think not. I hope this man loses every endorsement he still has.

137. Bobby, why do you ask questions about something that you say you don’t believe? Could it be that you do believe? All those little trick questions are not going to help your lost sin sick soul!

What is more important, your soul or some trivia about a garment! I only know of one garment that had enough virtue to cause a woman to say, “if I could only touch the hem of His garment!” Trust me Bobby, that garment inspires more people than you could ever do with your Old Testament trivia! Why do y’all choose to be bound, when God has set you free? Jesus died for you and me!

Bobby, I feel that the rest of my time with you should be spent praying for your soul! When someone says they are not a Christian, but stops short of saying what they do believe or follow, it reminds me of the homosexual who hides in the closet! What are you ashamed of if you think christianity isn’t good enough for you? Do you have something better than Christianity?

Meatloaf,

How can you sit here and quote the bible and it’s obvious that you have hatred in your heart?..a lil odd huh? And to sit here and say God hates things is just plain idiotic.You definately need to be smacked for that comment..If he taught us that we shouldn’t have hate in our hearts then what sense does that make if he has hatred in his heart? It’s obvious that you know nothing about the bible..did you just start reading it yesterday?…You seem like one of those people that try to preach to others about doing wrong and behind closed doors, you’re doing the same thing and being a hyocrite…This topic is about Tim saying he hate gays and you went waaaayyyyy off topic and started talking about something totally different.And maybe the person who filmed the video wasn’t gay, maybe they were just trying to simply sabotage his career…It’s obvious he didn’t know he was being recorded, i’m sure he would’ve said something since he so called hate gays. You need to state true facts about God instead of making yourself look like a complete ASS!!!!!!!!!!

Pittyboy, don’t come on here and pretend that you haven’t been reading every word and probably kicked a few tables too! Let it out! hehe!

Halle Barry did come out and basically say that she didn’t like blacks! She said she was ashamed growing up to be associated with her black side! And, guess what??? It didn’t incites violence or riot against anyone! Now, you sound homophobic with that $#!T!

So, don’t try to make Judah or others seem uncivilized! Homosexuals are the ones on trial here! Not the people who say that its wrong! Take that up with God! People say that Mexicans should be deported out of the country, but no ones making a big effort to round them up!

So, you can drop the victim routine! We don’t want you to leave of die, just stop the immoral perversion that plagues the country! I hate abortionist too…not for who they are, but for what they do! They kill defenseless babies! Gays challenge God plan for the family! They kill the normal order of life!

@pittbboi said…
“What bothers me is everyone is overlooking the fact that if ANYONE said what Tim Hardaway said but replaced the word “gay” with “black”, black folks would be rioting in the streets. But oh, since it’s only gay people, we just have to sit back and take it? I think not. I hope this man loses every endorsement he still has.”

I actually shocked that you would say something like this… IS that going to make gay people feel better about themselves OR make all the things gay people have been through and continue to go through Go Away forever… taking away his and his family’s income isn’t going to make it better for gay people

Tim’s an idiot granted BUT their are FAR WORSE people walking this earth than Tim Hardaway !!!

Gay people don’t have to fear anything that Tim says or thinks because his opinions are just that… His Opinions!!!

He may be entitled to his opinion but we are entitled to grill his ass for it. Hate is unacceptable.

Meatloaf, you’re a grade A dumbass.

On the subject of Halle Berry, she didn’t say she didn’t like blacks. THIS is what she said:

“I was raised by my white mother and every day of my life I have always been aware of the fact that I am bi-racial. However, growing up I was aware that even though my mother was white, I did not look or ‘feel’ very white myself…Many times my classmates did not believe me when I said my mother was white. I soon grew tired of trying to prove that I was half-black and half-white and learned not to concern myself with what others thought. I began to relate to the other ‘all black kids’ at my school more because quite simply…I looked more like them…After having many talks with my mother about the issue, she reinforced what she had always taught me. She said that even though you are half black and half white, you will be discriminated against in this country as a black person…why should it matter what color anyone is or what heritage they identify with? If people would just learn to look at everyone equally and stop trying to label one another the issue of what we are all made of would be null and void…We are all members of the same race, the human race!”

Meatloaf, you’re an idiot. Know your place.

“So, don’t try to make Judah or others seem uncivilized! Homosexuals are the ones on trial here!”

Actually, I could have sworn it was Tim Hardaway who was “on trial” here, so to speak. This whole debate isn’t about whether or not WE have the right to exist, because we do. So you and a few others are going to have to accept that.

[q]People say that Mexicans should be deported out of the country, but no ones making a big effort to round them up![/q]

Despite the fact that none of this makes any sense. If you knew anything about the amnesty debate going on in this country, you would know that there are people making an effort to “round them up”, as well as people who want them to stay. Stop referencing things you clearly know nothing about.

“Gays challenge God plan for the family! They kill the normal order of life!”

Do we challenge God’s plan for the family just by living our own lives, whether they be religious or not? Wait, why am I asking you? It’s not like you know a damn thing about the subject. God’s plan for the family has been challenged almost since it’s inception, and mostly by the heterosexuals its designed to be benefit, so don’t blame gays for that. And “kill” the normal order of life? Yeah, because me being gay is what’s making you hit on underage girls in this forum on regular basis. Are your married, Meatloaf? Is it because of gay people that you aren’t?

Well, let me make it very clear to you what I DO believe, Meatloaf (by the way, don’t think I didn’t peep how you didn’t answer ANY of my questions):

I believe religion to be a man-made sham meant to keep people in fear and in check for the benefit of the few at the expense of the many. Christianity and Islam stand at the top of that delusional list, in my opinion.

Was that clear enough for you?

And if you wish to focus your energy and prayers on me, be my guest. But don’t think I don’t know that when I Christian says “I’ll pray for you” what they really mean is “F*** you for not believing what I believe.”

It’s all good, though. I’ll pray for you, too.

LOL the funniest thing is that as much as he hates gays, now thousands of gay men are watching his ass like porn on youtube. the view count was at 19,000 when i saw it

@141

You just proved my point for me. That’s your OPINION based on your perspective. Get over it. What is “tolerance”. That word connotes exposing yourself to something you’re against because you have to. That’s why caucasians use that term in relation to blacks. You don’t understand that the mentality of “tolerance” is sowing the seeds for major upheavals in this country. People are getting tired or this political correct movement and not being able to express themselves as they see fit. It’s establishing an atmosphere akin to a bubbling cauldron.

This society is like a couple that’s staying together for the children. Spare me with the “black folks would be rioting…” bullshit too because black people get called out all the time and don’t do shit. They did nothing about Michael Richards nor the nationally syndicated radio host that said black abortions lower the crime rate. I guess your saying, like the normal young American fascist, that the only people who’s freedom of speech rights should be protected are those with opinions that don’t offend you, lol. Average hypocrite. I believe in the Word but I don’t say, “Let’s kill the atheists.” Lol. Idealism sows the seeds for empires. You know enough history to understand that. When the white man designed the Constituion, he never thought that he’d have to endure a society where he’d have to act like he’s interested in the opinions of other races. That’s where the token leaders come in.

“I actually shocked that you would say something like this… IS that going to make gay people feel better about themselves OR make all the things gay people have been through and continue to go through Go Away forever… taking away his and his family’s income isn’t going to make it better for gay people”

Eh, it may be a harsh response, but part of me sticks by it. It angers me that it’s still morally ok to make gay people the punch-line of every joke and the target of all sorts of hate, especially with all the work we’re putting in and all the stereotypes we must fight on a daily basis just to be treated equally. Especially when you’re already black.

Nobody would have put up for this shit if this was a white man saying these things about black people, and when Michael Richards got caught up in his hate people were calling on him to be sued and all sorts of things. It just angers me that when the same happens to gay people we’re expected to just suck it up. It’s all kinds of disrespectful. Tim Hardaway said these things so publicly, not just because it’s what he felt in his heart, but because he thought the world didn’t care enough and he would be able to get away with it. Hopefully him losing his endorsements sends the message that hate, in ALL of its forms and not matter WHO it’s directed at, should not be publicly tolerated in a country where EVERYONE should have the right to live their lives.

Let’s get to the real crux of the matter though; the fierce anger and frustration of black homosexuals and lesbians that the white man and his community will accept him over their own people. That’s what it’s really about.

will accept *them* over their own people (excuse me)

BTW, there is no force more powerful or vindictive in America now than the Gay Mafia. They are the ones that are exposing all these caucasian “conservative” politicians for the homos that they are because they get on TV and speak with all this swelling rhetoric about “traditional American values” (i.e. rape, robbery, murder) and yet they’re at all the homo clubs and parties in some Fruit of the Looms and Zorro masks, lol.

@Bobby said:
“And if you wish to focus your energy and prayers on me, be my guest. But don’t think I don’t know that when I Christian says “I’ll pray for you” what they really mean is “F*** you for not believing what I believe.”

I Definitely KNOW that’s what Gehova Witnesses means when THEY say that Same HIT !!! Holla

Folks can twist it all they want…

But gay “struggle” can’t be compared to the struggle or past struggle of Blacks. End of discussion.

And stop letting the media bamboozle you. Blacks ain’t the only one who are “homophobic”.

I don’t hate or love gays, but I don’t understand why people feel the need to discuss or display who they choose to have sex with. Who cares. Like I said, that’s between you and your God(if you believe).

That’s like have a straight pride parade.

“You just proved my point for me. That’s your OPINION based on your perspective. ”

I didn’t prove a damn thing for you. It’s not my “opinion” that his fall under hate speech. Look the term up before you debate it, Judah.

Likewise, tolerance doesn’t connotate “exposing” yourself to things you don’t like. Tolerance simply means that you keep your own hang-ups to yourself when you encounter something out of your comfort zone.

You’re right in the people are getting tired of having to be politically correct, but there is a definite difference between being politically incorrect and damn dumbass. I think Hardaway falls under dumbass. There are plenty of people who speak daily on the “moral blemish” that is homosexuality, who preach all of the time about how it’s wrong, and those people have huge audiences. So don’t try to tell me that every person who speaks ill of homosexuality gets strung up.Gays don’t have a problem with that when it’s contained, but people try to move their “morals” into the public domain and infringe on our right to live as we are that we have a problem. Tim Hardaway chose to air his hate unwarranted in a public and neutral setting in the most inappropriate of ways–one of which could have possibly incited violence against us.

“Let’s get to the real crux of the matter though; the fierce anger and frustration of black homosexuals and lesbians that the white man and his community will accept him over their own people. That’s what it’s really about.”

What in the sam hill…

Judah, that assertion is nothing more than your typical “I think I know everything and white people suck” BS. I can’t even form an argument against it because it’s just that baseless. I have met homosexuals who are just as anti-white as you. Sexuality is something that exists outside of the race-debate. Don’t even try to connect the two, Judah. Especially with a statement as contrived as that.

on Thursday, February 22, 2007 @ 3:10 pm

151. pittbboi said:
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“I actually shocked that you would say something like this… IS that going to make gay people feel better about themselves OR make all the things gay people have been through and continue to go through Go Away forever… taking away his and his family’s income isn’t going to make it better for gay people”

Eh, it may be a harsh response, but part of me sticks by it. It angers me that it’s still morally ok to make gay people the punch-line of every joke and the target of all sorts of hate, especially with all the work we’re putting in and all the stereotypes we must fight on a daily basis just to be treated equally. Especially when you’re already black.

Bill Said:

So Pittbboi, I have a few questions for you.

The person who made this videotape of Tim Hardaway getting dressed/undressed : Do you feel that this person who made these recordings were justified ?

Do you feel that the persons & orginization that replay this videotape (e.g Crunk & Disorderly & ConcreteLoop) are justified ?

Doesn’t a person have a reasonable expectation of privacy, when dressing in the locker room ?

Does TWO wrongs make things right ?

Just asking…

I meant “that Same SHIT !!!

Bill

“The person who made this videotape of Tim Hardaway getting dressed/undressed : Do you feel that this person who made these recordings were justified ?”

I think it’s funny, just as I would have had it been released before he said any of the things he did. I don’t find it sexually arousing because I don’t find Hardaway to be an attractive man. To answer your question, I can’t really say whether or not it’s justified, but I’m leaning towards no. I said on the first page that there’s nothing inherently gay about Hardaway being naked in a men’s locker room–that’s pretty standard behavior. The only “gay” thing about it was the fact that somebody was recording it for some unknown reason, and the camera stayed almost entirely focused on Hardaway, maybe they were trying to say something with that. I don’t know…

“Do you feel that the persons & orginization that replay this videotape (e.g Crunk & Disorderly & ConcreteLoop) are justified ?”

Yes. These are gossip websites. It’s one of the major reasons for their existence. It’s all fun; it’s all scandal. It gives us all something to talk about.

“Doesn’t a person have a reasonable expectation of privacy, when dressing in the locker room ?”

Not when someone’s apparently recording that mess. And I really don’t get the impression that this was candid camera.

“Does TWO wrongs make things right ?”

Depends on what you consider is “wrong” about this. I think the only reason this video was posted before was because nobody really cared about Tim Hardaway before the comments he made. Now that he made them, he’s more in the public eye. And stuff like this happens to people in the public eye all the time. Again, it gives you something to talk about. I don’t think it’s wrong. If this sis something nobody was supposed to see then it shouldn’t have been recorded in the first place.

So in other words, you’re in favor of the regulation of free speech, lol. Here we go with the hypocrisy. You know what’s funny? Now that caucasians have conquered and adulterated the world, now they want to pass laws saying to, “stop the hate”. You can never stop the hate, so they choose to mask theirs. Instead of saying that they “hate” Muslims because the Muslim religion is against homosexuality and lesbianism, they accuse all of them of being “terrorists” and systematically bomb the hell out of them. You have to provide me with a LEGAL reference point for what “hate speech” is in juxtrapostion to an American’s right to free speech. I’m sure that you know the constitution better than myself. Provide me with a bill or law detailing what “hate speech” is. That will add validity to your stance. If not, then you’re just throwing another homo tantrum.

I HATE GAYS TOO! DICK AND DICK DON’T GO

IF YOU PEOPLE KEEP ACCEPTING THIS SHIT THEN YOUR KIDS GOING TO GROW UP GAY

GAY SHIT IS ON TV

HELL, THEY EVEN HAVE A GAY TELEVISON NETWORK

I HATE GAYS, CHILD MOLESTERS, RAPIST, MURDERS NOTHING WRONG WITH HATE IF YOU HATE THE RIGHT THINGS
I HATE BIN LADEN I HATE RICHARD RAMERIEZ I HATE RICHARD KUKLINSKI, I HATE WHOOPI GOLDBERG LIPS CAUSE THEY BLACK

GOD MADE ADAM AND EVE NOT ADAM AND STEVE

GAY PEOPLE ARE SNEAKY TRYIN TO LIVE A DOUBLE LIFE AND SPREAD HIV AMONGST OUR RACE (BLACKS) AS THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE

TERRY MCMILLIN IS A VICTIM OF THIS FORTUNATELY SHE DIDN’T CATCH ANYTHING

UNFORTUNATELY A CLOSE HIGH SCHOOL FRIEND OF MINE DIDN’T COME OUT SO LUCKY. SHE CAME OUT HIV POSITIVE

I GUESS BECAUSE OF THAT SITUATION WHY I HATE GAY PEOPLE

I RATHER A RACIST COME OUT AND TELL ME THEY ARE A RACIST INSTEAD OF KEEPING IT IN AND ME KEEP BEING IN THEIR PRESENCE.

I COULD SYNPATHIZE WITH TIM CAUSE THAT GAY BITCH IS SNEAKY AND DIDN’T TELL THYE TRUTH.

I SAID IT OUT LOUD …… I HATE GAYS

AND UNTIL U WOMEN SHARE THE SAME SENTIMENTS YOU MIGHT COME ACROSS ONE WITH A UN HEALTHY LIFE STYLE AND PUT YOUR SELF AT RISK

GAY PEOPLE CANNOT REPRODUCE

THE SHIT IS GROSS AND NASTY

AND I CAN’T BELIVE THE NBA REPRIMANDED HIM, WELL I COULD BUT THEY SHOULD ISSUE A STATEMENT THAT THEY DON’T SUPPORT IT NOR DENOUNCE IT

I TOLD A GAY PERSON TO THEI FACE THE OTHER DAY THAT I HATE THEIR KIND AND SHIM SAID. THATS RIGHT SHIM SAID I AM BEING PREJUDICE TOWARDS HIS LIFESTYLE

AND MY REPLY WAS IF A CHILD MOLESTER TOLD HIM THAT HE WAS BEING PREJUDICE TOWARDS HIS LIFE STYLE THEN HOW WOULD HE REPLY

HE SAID “THATS NOT MORALLY RIGHT AND WRONG BY GOD”

AND MY REPLY WAS “DITTO”

I bet he wishes he’d kept his mouth shut now. It does seem strange that they were so comfortable being naked in front of each other. I wonder is it like that now?

Wow, so it’s okay to post a man naked without his permission but it’s not ok to voice your opinion in a society that (allegedly) gurantees free speech, lmao. The hypocrisy continues. You see why you homos don’t have a leg to stand on. You think the world revolves around you and your feelings. It’s an offshoot of your effeminate character really.

@162- speak truth Judah, speak truth!!

Sexuality exists outside of the race debate but everytime I turn around I hear how “homophobic” the BLACK community is, lol.

@ meatloaf- while you’re busy memorizing the Bible, you might as well go back to school because if u read my comment u would see that i did not say straight men raped young boys. i said that there are heterosexual pedophiles and homosexual pedophiles. there are straight men who rape young girls (even baby girls) and there are straight women who rape young men (even baby boys). there are also gay men who rape boys and gay women to rape girls. if a person is a pervert, he/she is a perv. sexuality doesn’t determine whether you’ll be a perv or not

p.s. the definition of a pedophile is “an adult who enjoys sex with children” nowhere does it say a gay adult. get it straight. children need to be protected from all sexes. oh and i believe in God as well (though i don’t believe in organized religion b/c of ppl like u) but i also believe in love trumping hate. maybe you should try to live that too

Pittbboi:

Thank You for your response.

Concreteloop lowered itself in my eyes when they posted this video.

Where is the Journalistic Intergrity ?

Concreteloop went down to the Mediatakeout.com level on this one…

I’m a little more focused and serious minded these days, so I guess “sense of humor” has gone away….

selah

Pittboi, don’t even waste your typing fending off these sorry cases.
They are oppressed by their wretched lies and stupidity. When they speak hate, they say God told them to. 2 sick fuckers, ain’t they?

@169

Remember brother, the heterosexual black man is the world’s most hated creature so he has to be emasculated at any and all possible times. That’s why so many of these black women get offended when anyone says anything about gay black men. That’s the same black man that stood there naked on the auction block or got raped in front of his family on the slave ship but that’s irrelevant when he dare speak against homosexuality.

THE WORLD SAY WE SHOULDN’T HATE

THEN WHY IS THE WORD IN EXISTENCE

I HATE GAY PEOPLE I HATE GAY PEOPLE

IF WE GIVE THEM A PASS THEN THE RAPIST, THE MOLESTERS, THE WOMEN ABUSERS, THE MURDERES GONNA THINK THAT THEIR LIFESTYLE SHOULD BE ACCEPTABLE.

PEOPLE NEED TO EDUCATE THEMSELVES ON THIS. ITS A CHEMICAL IMBALANCE OF GENETIC HORMONES AND ESTROGEN THAT CAUSES THIS. THE GAY COMMUNITY KNOW THIS BUT HIDE THE FACT OF THE TRUTH.

ITS FUNNY THAT THE MEDIA SKEW THIS TO MAKE IT SEEMS LIKE HOMO’S IS A WAY OF LIFE AND ACCEPTED IN THE COMMUNITY AND HARDAWAY REMARKS WAS TOTALLY OUT OF LINE.

THEN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHY THE GOVERNMENT DON’T ALLOW THE SAME SEX MARRIGE

PEOPLE GET CAUGHT IN GOSSIPH, MISOGYNIC MESSAGES, FOLK LORE AND MYTH AND DON’T KNOW HOW TO SEPERATE WHATS MORALLY RIGHT AND WHATS WRONG

ITS FUNNY HOW THE HUMAN MIND FUNCTIONS

ITS EASILY INFLUENCED BY THE MAJORITY

“So in other words, you’re in favor of the regulation of free speech, lol. Here we go with the hypocrisy.”

Wrong. Where did I say that Hardaway should suffer any legal consequences? I will say that his words are pretty close falling into the exceptions of free speech territory, but even in my extremely dislike of his I can admit that he didn’t say something that should be legally reprehensible.

However, that doesn’t change the fact that he words were very hateful, but I’m glad the PUBLIC is putting him his place (as is the case with his loss of endorsements and general public disapproval).

“You have to provide me with a LEGAL reference point for what “hate speech” is in juxtrapostion to an American’s right to free speech. I’m sure that you know the constitution better than myself. Provide me with a bill or law detailing what “hate speech” is. That will add validity to your stance. If not, then you’re just throwing another homo tantrum.”

Hate speech isn’t illegal unless it falls into certain exceptions to free speech (link below). Just because Tim Hardaway didn’t say anything that falls outside of constitutional protection doesn’t mean he’s completely in the right. I believe the NBA and other companies who pulled his endorsements are definitely justified.

Go here: http://www.nethics.umd.ed...lides/CAUSE97/tsld012.htm

on Thursday, February 22, 2007 @ 4:14 pm

171. JUDAH said:
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@169

Remember brother, the heterosexual black man is the world’s most hated creature so he has to be emasculated at any and all possible times. That’s why so many of these black women get offended when anyone says anything about gay black men. That’s the same black man that stood there naked on the auction block or got raped in front of his family on the slave ship but that’s irrelevant when he dare speak against homosexuality.

Bill Said:
I cosign 101%

I think gay people are just weird. Black people are smarter than white people because they live in the ghetto.
Serena Williams wears a weave. Do you think Beyonce is pretty? I do. When is TI gonna mary Tiny? Is Jennifer Hudson prettier than Fantasia?

@170

Are you a caucasian, a homo, or a lesbian….or all three?!!! You just proved what I put in comment #171, lol. What did I do to you? Did I blow you out of the water in some meaningless debate, or have you been reading my comments from afar while gnashing your teeth? What a waste of sperm.

@175

Ding, ding, ding…a cracker, lol.

So which category does his rant go under, “Incitement to Imminent Lawless Action” or “Threats”, lmao. That looks like the New World Order in which a large segment of American society has an ideal and anyone within America or across the planet who doesn’t believe in the ideal must be imprisoned or killed.

“Wow, so it’s okay to post a man naked without his permission but it’s not ok to voice your opinion in a society that (allegedly) gurantees free speech, lmao. The hypocrisy continues. You see why you homos don’t have a leg to stand on. You think the world revolves around you and your feelings. It’s an offshoot of your effeminate character really.”

First of all, I don’t think that video was recorded without his permission. Secondly, it has nothing to do with the “hypocrisy” you claim in apparent in this discussion. Thirdly, don’t act like these naked “scandal” pics and videos don’t happen just about every day on websites like these.

Judah, is this really you? Most of your opinions are BS, but they’re usually more intellectual sound than this.

@Judah -”Remember brother, the heterosexual black man is the world’s most hated creature so he has to be emasculated at any and all possible times. That’s why so many of these black women get offended when anyone says anything about gay black men. That’s the same black man that stood there naked on the auction block or got raped in front of his family on the slave ship but that’s irrelevant when he dare speak against homosexuality”.

Wow, get out of my head. LOL, i was bout to post similiar to this post, cause i agree 200%. sometimes the conversation has to be elevated to another consciousness. Great post my bro or sista, great post!!

Tim Hardaway’s rant, I’m referring to

“So which category does his rant go under, “Incitement to Imminent Lawless Action” or “Threats”, lmao. That looks like the New World Order in which a large segment of American society has an ideal and anyone within America or across the planet who doesn’t believe in the ideal must be imprisoned or killed.”

Did you read anything I posted? Judah, your ignorance is coming through. I suggest you stop responding unless you can think of better comebacks than this.

The link I gave you was an example of exceptions to free speech. Hate speech falls into some of those descriptions as well, but it doesn’t encompass all of them. What Hardaway said definitely falls into the category of hate speech for the simple fact that he’s attacking a group of people on the basis of their sexual orientation, one of the prerequisites. I told you earlier that nothing he said is legally reprehensible. Stop trying to turn this idiot into a freedom fighter of some sort. He has the right to hate who he wants–that’s free speech. Companies have the right to remove their endorsements because his views don’t align with their own–that’s free enterprise.

175 - u have been exposed. are you a regular on CL? did u just creat this screen name?

come out and show urself.

LMAO @177

@ judah- what black women are you talking about? i treat white gays the same as black gays. i get upset when both are targeted b/c no one should feel that hate

This is actually typical behavior in locker rooms(minus the filming) In fact this is quite subtle to the shit I’ve seen. There were these two guys in my gym glass who would run around naked and wrestle with each other lol ..it was funny but totally gay. And no they werent gay because neither had a woody…unless they were really small lol…the gayest has to be slapping asses with towels..Me and I never undressed in front of my locker mates or showered…not beacuse I’m worried about someone looking at me ,etc ,etc …I just dont feel comfortable getting naked in front of people men or women. lol

TH got a big butt like Deelishis. Flavor Flav is too dark. White people food is too bland. I like airplane food. Do you?

@182

What freedom fighter, lol? If a man wants to express himself, then he should be able to. Simple as that. I don’t idolize any man, much less Tim Hardaway. Either you have freedom of speech or you don’t. Look, no disrespect to you brother, but for you to call me ignorant is a compliment. Lol. Like I knew you would, you ran to justify right and wrong based on man’s word but will later try to disprove the Bible. I can go to Barnes and Noble, buy a copy of the Constitution, and in the spirit of the Most High and Christ cut you with it, lol. You can read the Bible 20 times and all the precepts would fly over your head. I gave you that assignment to make you more comfortable because, as you know, I don’t value man’s word but I know that you do. You came out of your shell, as I knew that you would, and provided me with the impetus to debunk the constitution. I wish that I could read 1000 books and study scriptures and do all the things that I have to do concurrently, but I can’t.

@183

I can always tell what kind of person I’m speaking to, sis. That’s classic caucasian; “I can’t deal with this nigger because he doesn’t worship me so I have to make wild allegations.”. A white man would rather slit his own throat than lose a debate to a negro, so he tried to clown, and like you said, got exposed.

@184

Sis, if what I said doesn’t apply to you, don’t sweat it.

OK I PEEPED THE VIDEO AND ITS BLAH I EXPECTED TO SEE BOOTY SHAKIN AND ASS SMACKIN THIS WAS NOTHING…TOO MUCH FUCKIN HYPE

HE DOES HAVE A NICE ASS I WAS DROOLIN, IM MAD HE WAS PARADING THOUGH HMMM…

Gays will always be on trial in the black community! The can go to the gay bar downtown, but don’t bring that $#!T up in the hood unless it at the hair shop! John Amaechi is a British fag who should have never played for the NBA. The Brits are a sorry bunch anyhow! They have no respect for African Americans!

And yes, Halle did say that she grew up hating her black side! Go back and read the entire atricle! I see all you gay homeboys have gone back into the closet and are now blogging under names like *DRE*, pms, bobby, hbic and other random $#!T. Shame the devil and he will flee!

“If you knew anything about the amnesty debate going on in this country, you would know that there are people making an effort to “round them up”, as well as people who want them to stay. Stop referencing things you clearly know nothing about.”

They have been making an effort to “round them up” for almost 200 years now! Get a clue! Or, stop by the immigration office and look at the long lines! The Mexicans are coming to America on Southwest Airlines filled with Louie Vitton luggage! Yes Pity, that was all for you! hehe!

HBIC, you just don’t know how widespread the gay mafia lifestyle is! And, please don’t ever mention women raping young boys again! That $#!T is an oxymoron!

The courts and Amber Law are not hearing to many cases of women rapist against young boys! Now, there is a large number of young girls who get raped by lesbians, but no harm no foul if there’s no chance of getting pregnant!

If a gay man has sex with a underaged child, he’s a pedophile! Most gay men are or have been pedophiles at one time!

Now to Dre, Megan and others who have difficulty understanding how God could hate things, read Proverbs 6:16 and learn about the things that God hates!

Proverbs 6:16 says:

16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Gay men fall under the category of “a heart that deviseth wicked imaginations.” A wicked man! Lesbians fall under the category of “feet that be swift in running to mischief”!

So, don’t tell me God loves all this mess we doing down here on earth! These things are an abominations to the Lord! And, if he can hate some things, how can Tim escape it? Tim will get support and be exonerated in the coming days!

that ameche dude prob was the one with the camera…gay bastard…now he trying to put that junk on youtube…sad sad sad…

lol@41 THATS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKIN!!!

But anyway, it’s pretty obvious [and irrelevent] that the guy taping is gay/bi. I don’t know why a straight guy would take a hidden cam in a locker room.

What he said could hae been kept to himself. In the words of Kelis:

“You don’t have to like me, but you WILL respect me!”

Saying gays shouldent be here was over the line, and ignorent comments should be kept in ingnorent places.

In other news….DAT BOI GOT A LIL FATTY BACK!!!! lol Maybe one day he’ll be comfortable with his sexuality to to stop hatinso hard and come out.

FIRST off this was waaaaay back in 99′ & SECOND let’s do the math pple all 4 clips were approx. 2min or less. So now we can determine someone’s sexuality b/c of a SILENT clip? I THINK NOT! This was obviously taken w/ a camera phone lol…pple amaze me~

I dont have a religion. I believe in God yes, but all that preaching and hollering(refercing Blacks) is just plain coonery to me..and after the services duh ol’ minista asks for handouts to pay for he and his wives Cadillac. Bullshit.

That was off topic but I hate how the bible/crap is brought up on a damn gossip site.

racism and homophobia are equally relevant to me. why? because i am black and gay. both forms of prejudice cut deeply, socially and legally. its one thing to be treated as subhuman by white people. it’s quite another to be mistreated and judged harshly by your own community. and when i say that, i mean the black community. i grew up with the same african-american culture as everyone else, in the same church, and with the same racism. once i came out, my solidarity with the larger black community automatically became limited because i refused to be “discreet” or penitant about who i am. nobody can know what i experience because they are not part of TWO vilified and feared communities. to the chick who said gays want “more” rights; it’s just about having the SAME rights as every tax-paying, law-abiding citizen. i don’t need anyone to like how i live to be able to have equal protection under law.

Yeah he looks gay in the video.

I’m shocked at you Ezra! Do you even know what your name means? Anybody can drive a Cadilac! What’s the big deal? I think you do believe in God, so why would you want to error on the side of denial? You don’t need religion to believe in God, but if your beliefs ever become love and worship, you’ll find a church that suits your swagger! God is user friendly! There are many churches where you can go to fellowship with other believer and learn the word from someone who doesn’t want your money! Why are you so hung up on money anyhow? Tight fisted??? The old time religion is what got blacks through during slavery, so don’t knock it! Coonery? You should tune into G.E. Patterson or T.D. Jakes and listen to the word! You may be one of the unfortunate people who can’t decern the truth. No one does well in the beginning, but if you hang in there, you’ll get better and you’ll learn to only take what you need!

Is it the bible that you “hate” or is it the treatment of gays? Cause, the bible is rarely discussed on the blogs with Brittney and Serena! Avoid gay discussions if it irks you that much! I just sense that you are covering something more disturbing to you! Come clean and let’s talk! But, attacking preachers and ministers is a waste of time! If you love God, the ministers don’t really matter…right?

What is it Ezra?

i disagree with all aspects of same sex marriage, etc. its just a belief i had ever since. but i dont hate them. thats two different things

who the hell is holding the camera, that’s what i wanna know… that’s pretty damn gay right there.

@pittbboi- thanks for exposing some of these pseudo-intellectual bible thumpers to the ideas of LOGIC, tolerance, and compassion. i can tell you from personal experience that judah is an insignificant cretin whom you should just ignore. he only comes out to gay-bash and then he goes back to being the hateful little non-entity he knows he is. if you disregard his sophomoric conjecture, like a rash, he’ll eventually go away.

194. sloane, you sound like you’re so sencere, but it all comes out like a con!

“Mistreated by your own community”

Man, you sound so emotional! Is this a game to you?

“Treated as subhuman by white people”. WTF???

“Both forms of prejudice cut deeply”!

Aren’t you understating the gay lifestyle and overstating the racism? You knew the response you were gonna get with the choice you made! Nobody held a gun to your head! And, when is the last time the white man treated you like subhuman? Way too much drama!!

It doesn’t sound like you completely came out yet! Maybe you came out at the gay bars, but you’re still very ashamed of yourself! You do need to repent!

“nobody can know what i experience because they are not part of TWO vilified and feared communities.”

You sound like the Lifetime Movie Channel! You want pity? I know someone else who wants pity! You know him too! Ain’t nobody vilified you! If you make the decision to walk around society with tattoos and piercing all over your face…why shouldn’t people stop, point and stare?

You’re not law-abiding citizens! You’re homosexuals…damaged goods! And, it didn’t happen at birth! You were either raped or abused, afraid of women or neglected!

What equal protections don’t you have? You have fire, police and ambulance! So let’s get specific, what exactly do you want? Some other man’s health benefits? His retirement? What are you after?

Most of you just want to get the AIDS coctails on another man’s medical? White folks can afford the cocktails, but most black gays end up dying in their parents spare bedroom! You don’t want to be a burden, but you are! Now, you’re getting desperate for tax-payer, government assistance!

If you ask me, you have way too many rights already! You can both go to the same bathroom and help with each others zipper! Wear each others clothes. Take turns being in back! lol! Help each other fix flat tires! And, spot each other on the heavy weight lifting!

Stop with the sob story and take responsibility for the choice you made! Question for you…are you infected? Cause, your voice is getting faint!

lol your ass is crazy meatloaf,get professional help.

Yes I know what my name means, my parents are religious.

There’s nothing I have against giving money..its when the Lords Speakers use that money for their personal gain/advancement.

Meatloaf, I’m praying you get a gay daughter or son.
Watcha gonna do then? You can’t abort them when they’re 12. LOL!!!!!!

Ezra, what should the preacher do with his salary? Isn’t it his right to do that which he pleases with that which is his? Come on man, nobodies telling you how to spend your money! You’re really splittin hairs! Don’t you use your money for your personal gain and advancement? Would you rather have a minister who drives around looking like the homeless? Stop and think! Use your head Ezra! You’re smarter than this!

202 supercalifragilisticexpialidocious, now this is a better example of karma than Tim hating gays and some pervert taking photos of him three months eariler!!

And, to the eariler poster who mentioned JWs…they are a cult, so you can never be sure who they pray too!

Why all the other dudes look uncomfortable?

That’s why for the longest time they tried to keep women sportscasters out of the locker rooms. Men are very “free” in locker rooms.
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EXACTLY

Did it ever occur to you geniuses that he may dislike gays because they tend to follow him around taping him while he’s wiping his ass crack dry?

@meatloaf- you don’t think blacks are treated as “less human” (because that’s what subhuman means) then white people? wow, you are out of it. how about, for starters, black lives meaning less then white lives in this country? how about the discrepancies in coverage between laci peterson and latoyia figueroa? you know the black pregnant woman who went missing around the same time as laci peterson? who received precious little media attention, and not nearly the same amount of police officers on her case as lacey. there was even a disproportionate amount of attention given to matthew shepard, a white gay male killed in a hate crime, then to sakia gunn, a young black gay female killed in a hate crime. what about the all the unarmed black men being shot and killed by police in new york? have you ever heard of an unarmed white (rich or poor) man being shot by the police? about 50% of the prison popultion is black. that means out of the 12% of blacks total in this country, 3% us are behind bars. minorities account for 74% of the cases where the death penalty sought, and you are much more likely to receive the death penalty if the victim is white. what about the drug laws, where using or distrubuting crack cocaine, a substance typically used by poor people of color, will land you in jail longer then if you use or sell the drug it’s derived from, cocaine, typically used by the white and affluent. you only have to look at the discrepancies of education, police practices when crimes are committed in our communities and against us, and the amount of us in jail, to realize that black people are not thought of being as human as whites.

second, you prick, i don’t want anybody’s pity. nobody needs to feel sorry for me because i don’t feel sorry for myself. i’m fine being gay, and i like it. i was simply stating my opinion, the same way you stated your buffonish opinions all over this board.

third, don’t assume. because i’m a lesbian, not a gay man. and you obviously don’t know anything about gay men either, so don’t disseminate your half-assed assumptions about them. i AM law-abiding to the statutes of the this country (not YOUR mutated interpretation of christianity)and tax-paying, that’s all i need to be to receive all the benefits of marriage, and to not be legally discriminated against at work, or with housing.

fourth, the real choice is whether choose to be yourself or follow the dictates of small-minded people like yourself. i’ll choose myself over you any day of the week. i refuse to live my life for people like you.

Good Lawd!!! This post has taken a turn for the worse, lol. I’m not gonna address the issue of gays and their existance, cause it’s pointless.

What really got me cracking up were the women equating a man with a nice ass as being on the DL. ROTFLMAO. I guess all athletic men (basketball and ESPECIALLY football) are suspect. I’m athletic and have always been told I have a “girly butt” because of my build, but to be honest, I’m proud of what I got. White men envy us because of our blessings, just like white women envy black women for their shape.

And as for locker room behavior…I would have to say 75-80% of the interaction with other men was just like what was displayed in the video. Men sitting around shooting the shit and talking about whatever comes to mind. It’s a time when men let down the barriers and are frank and honest with one another, and I think that’s why most men feel threatened or betrayed when they find out one of the people you’ve bonded with in this manner is gay. And the last time I checked most people put on lotion after taking a shower. Since when did it become suspect to NOT want to be ashy?

I dont get this..it seems to me every1 was aware that it was being filmed..why it was filmed? I dont know because they arent even doing anything out the norm(except being filmed) and ass shots dont really ruin someones rep.

#209 being gay has nothing to do with the locker room. There is something wrong with you if you feel paranoid about someone in the locker room looking at your junk…problem st8 guys assume everyone in that locker room is st8 also..which definitely isnt true. I dont even think you should really care either way.

When I was in gym class …during showertime I tried to never look at anyone below their waist….difficult for someone who is much taller than me though..and you’re crazy if you think that no guy in that room is checking you out…and it doesent have to be sexual lol ever heard of size comparisons?

this man is gay!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Fucking FAGGOTS. VILE Motherfuckers!

Unfortunately for homphobes, progress is on the side of gay people. So hate all you want. The history of social progress shows that homophobes are on the losing side.

Why is lotioning his ass in front of all those men if he’s so “homophobic”?

TIM IS ON THE DOWNLOW!

heterosexuals dont care for gays that much to put them on blast like that. they dont have time to focus on gays. it’s the closet cases like (tim) would spend energy on ish like this

Looks like a community or ymca locker room. Don’t recognize any of the boys as nba ballers. what’s more disturbing than the guy filming the tape who obviously followed him from the showers to the locker with camera in hand is the guy sitting next to Tim who is staring his ass up and down everytime Tim turns his head. When tim bends that ass over in his face looks like ol boy head is about to explode.

been in many locker rooms from high school to military to gyms and never…Never…EVER had boys sitting there watching my every naked move with antication. aint they got nothing else to do? Like wait for him by his car! I say Tim knew he was being taped. DL fugget. ps. How do you do all that taping and NOT get a d*ck shot? It’s all about payoff buddy… Next time tell Tim to bend it like Beckam towards the f’cking camera.

It’s okay to hate!

Read Proverbs 6:16 and learn about the things that God hates!

Proverbs 6:16 says:

16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Gay men fall under the category of “a heart that deviseth wicked imaginations.” A wicked man! Lesbians fall under the category of “feet that be swift in running to mischief” and a deviseth heart!

@ meatloaf- if you’ve never heard of women raping young boys then you really are an idiot

http://www.iol.co.za/inde...ct20010812195504104R12565

that article talks about how women can rape boys, one example is a girl who forced young boys to have sex with her. i think you don’t realize that even in rape, there is some sort of sexual arousal that can cause a response like an erection. even some women getting raped can feel a sexual response. a woman can even rape men by using foreign objects. are you from another world?

Meatloaf, your case is more than just a simple brainwash.
You are so gullible and weak and now you believe its cool to hate? You’re one sick son of a bitch, cuz your mama’s a real bitch.
Stick to bible school, you nutjob.

#219 HBIC

Women raping boys is not a problem on this planet! Using a foreign object is sexual abuse! Again, women abusing boys is not and has not ever been a problem in human society! I’m sure that one example of the girl who forced young boys to have sex with her is the only known case in the history of mankind! hehe!

For every boy you show me who’s been raped by a women, I will show you 10,000,000 boys who welcome the advance! Innocence and virginity are the crown glories of young girls and women!

I hope the police don’t waste time looking for women who rape boys! Go onto to the Megan’s Law site and you’ll find less than 1% women! And, all three of them were found guilty of having sex with underaged boys who were willing participants. The other five million offenders are men who forcibly raped girls, women and boys!

All of the ones who raped boys are gay! 100% Don’t make a mountain out of a molehill! There are more important issues that you need to research, like gay coaches in high schools, gay priest and gay men in prison!

And trust me, rape is a violent act! HBIC, please don’t try to glorify rape by suggesting that arousal, errection and sexual response play a role in rape! Talk to a rape counselor and they will tell you that the act is nothing but violence! You never want to make rape sound like the victim got pleasure of it!

I suspect that most of your gay culture play a little game where the guilt and shame is lessoned if the aggressor pretends to use force in the bath houses! Afraid to come out of the closet, because someone forced you to have immoral sex in a gay bar! That’s not rape either! That’s more of the twisted, corrupt thinking!

God hates men who rape! Rape from women is not an issue for him! There was one story in the bible where a women found a man drunk and pleasured herself, but I don’t know of too many men who get that drunk and who wants to have a drunk dickinem? lol

220. judah and meatloaf are lovers, I gave you the bible reference! Proverbs 6:16. If you have a problem with the things that God hates, take it up with Him!

The weak ones are those of you who didn’t think the words God and hate could be used in the same sentence! It’s amazing that God knew millions of years ago that He needed to state that there are things that he hates!

I never said hate was cool, but I do agree with the word of God about the things that He listed:

16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

HBIC, I see you in at least three of the things that God hates! These things are an abomination to God!!! You and I should take this serious!

This is such a shame, because all this post did was bring out the ingnorance in people…. SMH, It is never right to hate anybody whether you agree with their life style or you don’t… Nowhere in the bible does it state such… God hates sin, not people… He loves us all even though we clearly don’t deserve it… this is so sad

207. sloane, you should be ashamed of yourself for believing and even writing that sad commentary about the pligth of blacks in America! The examples you gave were glamorized and fill with drama! We have made major strides and you know it!

As long as you continue to sit on your pittypot like pittyboi, you’re going to parish! Even the four lepers in II Kings 7:3-20 had the courage to ask, “Why sit we here until we parish?” So, I ask you sloane, “why sit you there and complain about the white man and his subhuman treatment?” Read the story and I’ll explain it to you! MLK would never entertain the stuff you wrote in #207. He had a dream! Sound like you have nothing, but pity!

Now, you may be subhuman in your way of thinking! And, its sad that you live by the worlds standard to base your self-worth, but God has provided a level of royal priesthood and light for us if we are willing to renew our minds!

I can’t bring you out of the funk if you fight God, but God lets me know everyday when I wake up that I’m the “shizznick”! I’m an aire to the Kingdom! Jesus died for ME! And, no ones gonna convince me that I’m subhuman or anything less than a child of the Most High God! You betta ask somebody and stop wasting yo life under that funk! I’ve seen miracles! I’ve seen joy come in the morning light! I’ve seen strong holds broken! I’ve seen Him make a way out of no way!

So, now you should go back and delete all that sad commentary:

“black lives meaning less then white lives in this country?” WTF???

“what about the all the unarmed black men being shot and killed by police in new york?” WTF???

“there was even a disproportionate amount of attention given to matthew shepard, a white gay male killed in a hate crime, then to sakia gunn, a young black gay female killed in a hate crime.” attention WTF??

Just sad commentary! You’re all tangled up in a lost cause! Waste! Just look at what you’ve become!!!

Jesus was treated much worst than your gay friends could ever be treated and He knew no sin! So, if anyone should be pissed, it should be me and the Father!!!

Meatloaf, give it a rest and go vegan bruh. Ever heard of HOOF N FOOT?

223. redvelvet1, finally one of you has taken the time to read Proverb! So, now you realize that God does hate things! Before you read that verse, you were the ignorant one thinking that God is marshmellows and cream! You should be thanking me for enlightning you to a just God! You’re only problem is that you go from ignorance to knowledge and then you craft another senerio to support your gay cause! Well, it won’t work here!!! Read on:

Now redvelvet1, since you took the bait, I can give you some more englightenment! You said that, “God hates sin, not people”. Paraphrase: God hates homosexuality, buy not the people who practice it”. Is that more politically correct for you? Would you rather that Tim said it that way? What is the difference in someone like Tim saying “I hate gays rather than him saying, I hate the gay lifestyle!” Would that have really made a difference? I don’t think so!

Now, what person did Tim mention in his statement? And, is it clear to you now that God hates things like “the heart that deviseth wicked imaginations?”

Now, If you answer those questions truthfully, this conversations should be over and you should be making a choice to return to your closet or you should be asking God for deliverance!

I really don’t expect answers, but you can never say that you weren’t told!

OMT - That was funny how you showed up pretending that you knew about God’s abominations! hehe

225. POBOI said: “Meatloaf, give it a rest…!”

I been running, running, running for Jesus! But, I’m not tired yet! I’m not tired yet…running for Jesus!

Now POBOI, I’ve never heard of you before on CL, so congratulations for speaking up!!! Sounds like some of your beliefs and getting tried in the fire and destroyed! Otherwise, why would you waste your precious time reading everything I say! hehe!

Do you have a question or issue? If not, read on! I suspect that you are another one of the regulars who is too closeted to use his or her normal name! That’s okay, because I get a bigger kick out of the shameful and discraced! Its and admission of guilt!!!

So, here’s the question you have to answer, if you were born gay, why are you closeted? That one stumps the whole panel! hehe!

HBIC, Bobby, POBOI, redvelvet1 and sloane,

Y’all better respond quick, because Brian is posting new topics to push this one off of the first page! hehe!

Random…!

@199

I knew that you would pop up, if you haven’t already, lol. Before anything else, I want to know what’s the ultimate point of your tirade in comment #207. For all those instances that you named, I can name 10. What’s all that for if you have no remedy? Do you have a point or a plan to counteract all those instances you brought forth? Or was it just to show that, “I’m a dyke but I’m still down for the cause…”, lol. Negro please, you have no plan. You, like most other black homos and lesbians hate heterosexual black men and with all that bullshit you typed you cut yourself when you pledged your allegiance to this land. You rail against the Bible (surprise) but you quote a constitution written by slavemasters; a document that was never intended to apply to our people.

Do you even know anything about the Bible or are you one of those black people that call it “the white man’s book” without ever having read it, lol? The Bible is the white man’s book but the constitution isn’t, right? There’s a great difference between what people say about the Lord and his Word and what the scriptures actually say. You could not prove ONE of the ridiculous things that you believe about the scriptures, NOT ONE. I’m not foolish enough to act like I have infinite knowledge in every subject so when I don’t, I acknowledge that. That’s what research is for. That stuff that you value is fool’s gold, anyone with half a brain can master that information. That’s why I maintain, ya’ll know damn well where your bread is buttered. The white man has empowered you so I don’t wanna hear all those statistics from you. You know that for the black community to regenerate itself, we have to restore the family structure. That X’es people like you and Pittboi out of the equation. What this society has done is systematically destabilize the black family structure by disrupting the roles and people like you have fallen for it. Pittboi knows my stance and studies my perspective so why are you giving him advice concerning me, lol. I guess even you guys stick together huh?

Lastly sis, I don’t “gaybash”. I don’t even know what that is. Please don’t try to put words in my mouth because you cannot comprehend what I’m about. I guess that’s like when you see someone with a turban on and you call them a “terrorist”, lol. I don’t believe in violence unless it’s self-defense, then I believe in extreme violence. I have my opinion, that’s it. I notice that you’re still name-calling and hoping that people that don’t agree with you “go away” but, ironically, you want to be accepted. Very fascist mentality you people in the homo gestapo have. Once again, the vanity and fascism of this homo-movement really intrigues me. They really think that people are as concerned or obsessed with them as much as they’re obsessed with themselves.

In regards to Pittboi, he’s only a threat to himself. He has nothing to provide for his people. Typical of this modern generation of young, angry, frustrated black homosexuals. He’s the prototype of the young, idealistic black man that the white man will take under his arm and train to deceive black people because he’s in awe of the white man’s society. I know that the brother is infatuated with the white man and his statutes so I asked him to validate that Tim Hardaway’s rant was “hate speech”. He gave me some inane and open to interpretation portion of the constitution which only shows me that, once again, the Bible will eventually be included in the Constitution as a form of hate speech. What they’re going to do is step to you “Christians” and ask you if you believe what the Bible says (which most of you don’t anyway). If you do, you’ll be a “terrrorist”, if you deny it they’ll leave you alone, for now. Either you have free speech or acknowledge that you believe in censorship. None of this madness about “not offending people”. Please.

Meatloaf #218

You are soooo insanely religious I’m sure it’s a sin for you to even read this site. What with all the gossip about fornicating, drugs and DL action. Go read a bible, objectively this time. Or you can waste your time downing the people enjoying a good sinful time on this site.

Remember, it’s not you who is sinning so leave the judging to God and hope he don’t smite you for being so hateful or judgmental.

you R the weakest link. GOODBYE

It is obvious to me that you thrive on sparking arguments with people here on tha loop… It is too bad that you don’t have anything better to do with your time, however I am not gonna argue back and forth with you… I hold no ill will towards you and I wish you a blessed day!!!

^^^@ Meatloaf

#230 What, I know that it bothers you and the rest of the coalition that I’m dismantling all your gay stands! Now, you say CL is too sinful for christians as though that’s gonna change the word! Well, you sound like the men scribes who said Christ should not go into the home of tax collectors and taverns! He shouldn’t be there!!! But, He was! And, He came out just like He went in! I can sup with y’all without becoming one of you! That’s why there’s no judgement on my part, because I know you’re only human! Confused, but human nonetheless! Who did I judge?

The only people I called homosexuals are the ones who aren’t so ashamed that they volunteered and told me that they were! Did I judge you? Is that why you made up the name, What…What…What? You judging yourself when you hide behind deception and lies!

The hate message is a strong one! But, its not stronger then satins grip on homosexuals! When you gonna wake up?

Now, did you read every post? If so, you should know better! Don’t complaint to me…talk to God! Who did I down? People on CL trapped in the closet do enough downing of themselves, they don’t need me!

What is your real issues here?

231. redvelvet1, wishing me a blessed day is fine! I accept kind gestures from sincere people, but it would have been more meaningful without the negative commentary! Don’t be condescending in one breathe and then turn around and bless me out in the next! That’s crafty! Who raised you that way? You need to know that people can see through your helter-skelter attitude!

Why am I arguing when I correct someone who says something that is wrong like, “God has no part of hate”! Well, Proverbs says He does have a part, which addresses itself towards certain behaviors!

redvelvet1, I’m sorry that you can’t pull away from the issue that you face everyday! You have probably read every word and its will challenge your beliefs or you’ll keep coming back asking me to leave it to God! Well, Proverbs is God’s word!

It’s there for you and me! I’m don’t desire any agruments from you! You know you can just walk alway from the topic! But, don’t keep coming back worrying about how I use my time! Obviously, you are putting in your time too! You know…it takes one to know one! hehe!

@194

Sis, like I’ve told you before, I feel your pain. I just don’t care. You have to run to the black community from racism and run to the white community from the “homophobia”. Lol, what a confused and bitter little negro you are. That’s why you and your ilk are so double-minded. You need the white man because he co-signs on your sexual orientation. How pitiful. Then you have the nerve to get angry at me because I can see you and your perdicament so clearly. I could imagine you forced to stand in that church as a youngster and praise a Power that you didn’t (and still don’t) believe in. What torture. Now, through the white man and his government, you can be free to spread your confusion. “Andy has Two Daddies”, lol. Tell me more about the Nigerians and the male daughters and female sons, lmao. That’s why you people tend to know the Bible better than most of these so-called believers, because you’re so desperate to disprove it.

“In regards to Pittboi, he’s only a threat to himself. He has nothing to provide for his people. Typical of this modern generation of young, angry, frustrated black homosexuals. He’s the prototype of the young, idealistic black man that the white man will take under his arm and train to deceive black people because he’s in awe of the white man’s society. I know that the brother is infatuated with the white man and his statutes so I asked him to validate that Tim Hardaway’s rant was “hate speech”. He gave me some inane and open to interpretation portion of the constitution which only shows me that, once again, the Bible will eventually be included in the Constitution as a form of hate speech. What they’re going to do is step to you “Christians” and ask you if you believe what the Bible says (which most of you don’t anyway). If you do, you’ll be a “terrrorist”, if you deny it they’ll leave you alone, for now. Either you have free speech or acknowledge that you believe in censorship. None of this madness about “not offending people”. Please.”

Judah…stick to bible topics, because you’ve proven your idiocy in all other matter on this topic.

Sure, it’s easy for you to go on some tantrum about what I am and what I’m providing for my people, and then hide behind the bible when anyone else challenges you with those very same questions. Judah, you’re a phony. An insignificant conspirator, so full of yourself and your “righteous ideologies” that you haven’t, and will continue to be, oblivious to the fact that you have been long since left behind. You go into every situation with your bible outstretched, but your head is so hard that when it gets smacked right back at you, you don’t feel it. Ignore the constitution and other laws of this world all you want, but you’re a long way from heaven, my friend. Until you get there this is the place you must live, and you can choose to live in ignorance all you want, but don’t pretend for one second that you have any idea of what you’re talking about because you have so far proven otherwise. You can duck and dodge and hide the fact that you know nothing about the government and laws that make up this country, but to everyone who does you’re revealed to be the fraud you are. What Tim Hardaway said was definitely hate speech, and he is paying the social penalty for his words. What that has to do with the bible ever being considered hate speech is beyond me (especially since the bible is more than protected by the constitution in several areas), all your posts served to do was make you look too foolhardy to admit you just don’t know what you know nothing.

So stick to your bible all you want, and you can say whatever you want about me “sucking up to the white man” whatever that means. I don’t care. I’m living my life and enjoying it. But you know what? I’d rather live my life and have white friends (which is where I suppose you got the stupid idea that I’m “in love” with the white man) than live under a rock like you.

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#209 being gay has nothing to do with the locker room. There is something wrong with you if you feel paranoid about someone in the locker room looking at your junk…problem st8 guys assume everyone in that locker room is st8 also..which definitely isnt true. I dont even think you should really care either way.

When I was in gym class …during showertime I tried to never look at anyone below their waist….difficult for someone who is much taller than me though..and you’re crazy if you think that no guy in that room is checking you out…and it doesent have to be sexual lol ever heard of size comparisons?
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I know being gay doesn’t have anything to do with the locker room…I was pointing out the WOMEN who think the behavior displayed in the video and the makeup of one’s physical body somehow pinpoints men on the DL or are gay. I really don’t think of a person’s sexual preference when showering next to someome else either, so I’m not sure where you’re coming from.

As far as being crazy about not knowing another man may be checking me out…so what! I’ve caught people catching a glimpse and there isn’t anything wrong with that. People today have issues when it comes to physical male beauty and quite frankly it’s disturbing. If a man says another man has a nice body, you’re DL, bisexual or gay. If you wear clothing that in anyway shows off your lumps or bumps it’s deemed cheesy or not masculine. Men with body hair are gross, and men without are feminine. When did men become so repulsive, lol!

Gay or not…did you see homeboy’s azz? Like a bowl of Campbell’s Soup…MMMM MMMM Good!

@ meatloaf- dude, don’t twist my words, i meant that in general, in this country, black lives are not as valued as white lives. the only way i can articulate this FACT is to say that blacks are not considered as human as whites or are considered to be subhuman comparison to white people in the mainstream (white) media, by police, and by the government. YOU NEED TO FACE REALITY. this reality though, has no bearing on how i feel about myself as a black woman. I KNOW that i am unequivocally a human being, and that my life is as valuable as the next person’s, so don’t you ever go there. i also think it proves that you have limited comprehension abilites because i don’t know how you gleaned that I considered MYSELF less human, when i was clearly disseminating the facts of how about how these groups relate to black people. as for my sexuality, don’t use the bible or christianity justify ANYTHING that you’ve said. YOU are a pathetic, hateful individual. don’t you dare presume to mutate god’s message to fit your hate-monger agenda. reading all the inane bullshit you’ve posted on this board has proven to me that you are in the same league as that idiot judah and not capable of rational discussion. that being said, i’m done with you.

@judah- one, don’t call me sis. two, if i’m talking about YOU, its not name calling, its stating the facts, something you are incapable of. three, i don’t have to qualify my blackness to you, I AM BLACK. and how are you any more down for the supposed “cause” by being a divisive prick that is all for black people as long as they’re straight. four, don’t address me, because you are also incapable of rational discussion.

ok um…one question. wtf is up wit dudes just walkin around butt booty ass naked in front of other dudes laughin n talkin n having normal conversations and shit??? is this wat really goes on in male locker rooms?? DAMN!

239. sloane, you have this funny way of changing your story, coping a plea and backtracking when someone puts you in check! Correction and reproof are meant to make you stronger, not craftier!

Sounds like you live for the media, police and government! Well, I don’t! I measure not one inkling of my existence based on what white people think of me! And, I mean that in “general” and “specific” terms!

I actually believe you have reassessed your self-worth, based of this “rational discussion” and you now will describe yourself with a little more Kingdom Come! Give no place to the devil!

I think your are a good person and a smart one, but I also think that you must be born again, to settle into a spiritual relationship with God! Your parents will be very proud of you when you wise up and take hold of the truth!

There’s a man in this world for you!

do u think if the guy who was filming got caught, would he get his ass beat? i’d beat his ass. perv…