PARTIES: TOCARRA CELEBRATES HER BIRTHDAY
Thursday, March 15, 2007

Tocarra with her birthday and sister - All photos by JOHNNY NUNEZ
Tocarra celebrated her 25th birthday on Tuesday night at PM nightclub in NY. She may not be America’s Next Top Model, but she got plenty of love for her bday with ex-VP of Def Jam - Mike Kyser hosting her birthday party. Folks like Kevin Liles, Jayonce, Musiq, and Remy Ma came through…

Tocarra & Mike Kyser

It’s ya birthday…

Kerry Rhodes and Liris with Tocarra

random group pic…with Musiq

Tocarra with Grandma and Mommy

Beyonce…who stayed a total of 10 mins, poses with the bday girl

Jigga stayed 10 minutes too of course

Remy Ma with Tocarra’s former fitclub coach - Dr. Ian Smith

Musiq & Rich Boy
Visit Str8OuttaNY to get a first hand account of the party…








195 Comments
1.
txsupercutie
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
awww, looks like she had a fun b-day… Remmy looks a HAM and a half!!!
2.
ANYONE
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
FIRSTTTTTTTTTT
3.
txsupercutie
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
*Remy
4.
ANYONE
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
dang second
5.
observant
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Beyonce looks like she didnt want to be there and Toccara looks like she was ready for her to leave…
6.
bmoreserious
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Remy is to’ up..damn! Why did Jigga and Bee even show up if they were staying only 10 mins? That is plain rude!!
7.
Dave D
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Tocarra & Beyonce both look uncomfortable in their picture together. Like they really didn’t want to take a picture together.
8.
bmoreserious
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
I don’t live in NYC..but i find it hard to believe that Remy gets star treatment. Is she even considered a celeb in the city? Someone from NYC let me know
9.
PAT
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
GUESS BEY HAS A PLUS SIZED LINE COMING OUT AND TOCARRA IS THE NEW SPOKESPERSON….U KNO THE KNOWLES ARE ALL ABOUT BUSINESS
10.
bmoreserious
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Toccara is looking like (next to Beyonce) “I don’t know this bitch! Next!”
11.
jada
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
remy looks like what da hell she need 2 hang it up allready
12.
Im Conceited I gotta reason!!
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Remy looks like her and and New Yorks mom might be related with way back forehead…I still love ya though remy
13.
Angelica
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
what the hell is wrong with this richboy dude he looks so weird!!!
14.
chanti uk
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
what is a HAM?
15.
TANNA
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
OK WTF is up with Toccara’s mother? She looks like crackhead Sally behind Joe’s Pizza who be trading her “services” for a hit.
Rich Boy’s ash is unreal.
Bey looks really cute. I love her jacket.
Toccara looks FAB!
16.
TEAM MONOPOLY
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
http://myspace.com/productofthablock5
17.
SWEETS
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Looks like Tocarra tryin’ to do big things, she looks cute but that dress does nothing for her!
18.
txsupercutie
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
@ #14 HAM= Hot A** Mess!!! lol
19.
Debbie
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
GO BIG GURL, WAT U GONE DO!?! LOL
20.
Ms. G
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
#15: you’re too funny xD
Toccara’s mum looks like she has one tooth left so she can open her cans of 7Up from the fridge.
21.
OG_Sweetz
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Ewwwwww @ Remy ma!
22.
BORED @ WORK
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
please tell me that the chick in the yellow with the blonde “hair” is not tocarra’s mother…
23.
deidrajm
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
remy ma is one sick bitch!!!!! HAM!!!
beyonce look fresh
jay is not CUTE but he has a nice smile. I wonder what/who bey and jay’s kids would look like.????……hopefully not him.
tocarro looks nice but too much boobs!!!
rich boy you hungry?????……eat some gritts, corn bread damn!!
i love grandmas,,,, but her lips are scary!!! imagine that on remy ma!!!!!!!
24.
Cali
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Damn Remy Ma is uuuggggaaallllyyyy!
25.
oyster
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
hey, guys. My friend just sent an email about Sinbad, the comedian beind dead, has anyone heard that or is it a false rumor.
26.
thatguyk
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
# 5, 7, 10 lmao but it’s so true…picture caption perhaps? She looks like why is she here. Now Beyonce’s ass will be the center of attention just because she’s Beyonce, and it’s not even her birthday!
Why does it look like 50 trillion kids in the background…Next time you take pictures at a birthday party, (photographer) direct the people in the picture to not stand near a poster with about 50 trillion kids on it…..I thought they were at the party at first and I was about to start clowning…..
Look at Remy Ma….SMH….not one to talk about people faces but I will say this…why in the fuKK does she have on that family dollar shirt and that gold piece and blue contacts makes you look fake….Is it just me or does she be looking good in her videos tho’? Still thikk tho’….
Rich Boy…Rich Boy…Rich Boy..you are probably touring and there are probably are alot of groupies after you. But bro they want your money, with that sait stop TRYING to give sexy looks and just take the damn picture!
27.
CALI*CHIC
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
The lady in the yellow is her Mother not her Sister..lol and the oother one with the red belt is her sister
28.
TEE
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
REMY LOOKS A MESS. THAT’S JUST A DAM SHAME. SHE NEEDES TO STEP HER GAME UP. H.A.M!!
29.
Such Magnificence
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
LMFAO @ #15!!!! Hilarious!!!
Tocarra’s lil sis is a pretty girl!
I am amazed Jay and B even came to the party…hey Tocarra moving up in the world.
30.
thatguyk
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
By the way, I’m addicted to this blog…and I can’t put my finger around it…My first time on here was when I seen that Kci pic with his leg in the air roflmao, oh boy, but anyways when I’m in a fukked up mood I just come here…and it relieves tension
31.
CALI*CHIC
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
The light-skin lady with the yellow on is her Mother, not her sister… the one with the red belt is her sister….lol
32.
DIVA
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
tocarra looks like i’d look - happy to see jigga and talk to him and wishin’ bee would dissappear fuh real…
she looks like she had fun… party all the time…
why jay and bee went if they were only gonna spend 10 minutes u ask? — well they have to pretend they aren’t broken up or whateva so any outing is a good photo op i guess, lol.
33.
Kennedi
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
DAYUM Remy!!! DAYUM Rich Boy! Woo-wee yall look a mess!
Tocorra looks like she ain’t really feeling taking that pic with Beyonce. She looks like she thinkg “b!tch please!!”….
34.
jscene
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Remy Ma looks a hot mess as usual.
Toccara look like she’s telling beyonce “bitch to da left.”
What, jay-z is smiling..what…still unattractive though. He always look crunchy, i don’t care what he wears.
Dr. Ian look like road runner…beep beep!
Musiq seems like such a sweetie.
35.
MJ (RNB)
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
The chick in yellow… no comment.
Toccara and Bey and (dare I say it…?) Remy Ma looks nice.
Jigga, Dr. Ian, Musiq look cool.
Looks like a fun party.
In two hours, this will turn into a Bey post. Why? We know the stans and haters on here.
36.
Honeydip
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Tocarra looks nice. Rich Boy must wear A LOT of make-up in his videos because his skin is horrible. He and Remy would be a nice match though. What do yall think?
37.
bailey
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Love tocarra-glad to see her rubbing elbows with A-list celebs.
She is definitely doing her thing-she has a likeable personality just because she is comfortable in her own skin-ladies please take note-if you act like you got it going on most people will buy into it as well.
Hate to be negative but that first pic-is a bit tacky not because tocarra’s mom looks like a phine-it’s her mom we don’t get to choose our family members-but the fact that they are bending over on that table and looking a hot damn mess.
Just not a good look for such a classy lady, nonetheless looks like she knows how to have a good time.
Note to folks: Kids in the background are actually a photo, notice the silver picture frame. tocarra and friends are posing in front of this picture.
38.
BRANDON
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
IN THE 7TH PIC, SHE SEEMS NOT TO BE TOO HAPPY TO POSE WITH BEYONCE. I GUESS TWO DIVAS IS WAAAYYY TOO MANY!
39.
BRANDON
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
WHERE IN DA FUCK DID SHE HAVE THIS PARTY???….HOME DEPOT???…DAT CLUB LOOKS TACKY!
40.
bailey
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
by the way
do you think the reason beyonce and tocarra look uncomfortable in the picture is because they may not know one another? Toccara’s my girl and all but where would she and bey have met or socialized with one another? They probably don’t run in the same circle.
Jay and Bey stopping by her party means alot, even if it was only ten minutes. How many events or appearances do they probably turn down on a daily basis but they chose to attend tocarra’s b-day party-to me that say’s alot. They didn’t have to show at all-really who is tocarra?
41.
WTF???
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
if beyonce and jay-z wasn’t there, this shit wouldn’t even be posted.
this shit look like some hole in the wall, thrown together at the last minute, “momma we don’t have time to go get my teeth” party.
42.
H-TOWN-CHIC***
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
I think the reason that Beyonce & Toccara look like that because they probably really don’t know each other , not because they hate each other.
On the otherhand Tocarra & Jay look like they chit chattin”
Yall can’t believe everything yall read and how in the hell do they know she was there for 10 minutes. Anyway I would be please if she came at all she does have a busy schdule. The girl is everywhere!!!!!!!
43.
Jazzy Jay
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
That first pic was not very cute of Tocarra, but i guess when ur just havin a good time u dont think about things like that, u just pose,
Why is Beyonce and Jay there? Whats the connection?
Anyhow, I guess Tocarra is movin on up huh, must be since the GAME put her into his damn song. Well good for her!
44.
Quietstorm
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Why does Tocarra come off as loose to me?
45.
BAM BAM
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Bey to J:
“I’m tellin’ you Z, these bitches got ONE more time to say ‘To the left, to the left’ when I pass by!”
46.
natural mystic
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Is that really Toccara’s mom w/ the snaggle tooth? She couldn’t put a cap up in that gap?
Remy looks like MC hammer in bad drag.
47.
nishauna
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
o goodness why does remy look like that uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. and dont beyonce smile look phony as shit
48.
babyboss
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
she need a new bra…i dont kno why she is big the way she is and she dont do anything but damn her momma light skinned as a mug……
49.
WTF???
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
46. natural mystic said:
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Is that really Toccara’s mom w/ the snaggle tooth? She couldn’t put a cap up in that gap?
Remy looks like MC hammer in bad drag.
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actually hammer is cuter
50.
BAM BAM
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
@44
Cause judging from that first pic, she’s looking mighty “open to many possibilities”.
51.
Shag
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Boy, she’s a big ol’ fine gurrrlllll!!!!!
52.
H-TOWN-CHIC***
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
COSIGN W/ BAILEY#40
53.
nishauna
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
#25 i think thats a rumor about sinbad
54.
Tizzie Belle Jenkins
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Remy Ma….has nice teeth!! But she needs to get rid of the foxes ass and tail that she wears on her head. Looking crazy with them spit curls.
It looks like it took place in the basement of some Black project community center.
I can’t tell, but her mom could have a gold tooth, but that ain’t much better.
O.k., is CL workin’ to promote broke ass Bitch Boy, or what?
55.
VegasBaby
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Remmy look like a damn transvestite who is modeling for fresh looks contacts and I know what they look like cause I have watched enough maurry shows…..i mean if you have money why not look like it?
56.
KinaKina
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Happy B-Day girl! I love Toccara’s shape! She looks just like her mom in the face..how cute!
57.
bill
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Doesn’t these pictures look like her Grandmother rented out the VFW Hall to throw her grandaughter a birthday party ?
Club PM looks like some dusty old corner bar…Check out the wallpaper…
That’s probably why Beyonce only stayed 10 minutes..
I can imagine all of Tocarra’s friends from the hood was asking Beyonce for her autograph, and wanting to take pictures with her.
Tocarra’s Mother was probably asking Jay Z for some money, so she could buy a lucy……
58.
heller !!
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
which one of them women is tocarra mama ?!?! i might sound slow but shit i dont get it !! lol
59.
bill
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
…Beyonce’s clutching her purse, like she’s afraid, and she looks like she was ready to go….
60.
Thoro!
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Dam that Toccarra is like whewwww sexy like a MOFO and that lady in red is sexy too together they look like sisters CAN I SAY MENAGEE.HHHMmmm
Toccarra looks like she is begging Jigga for something, also looks like she smells something when taking a picture with Beyonce. I guess it is cool to have such support form B and Jay however ten minutes is kind of cheap and rude. But then on the other hand I love Toccarra but she is on the underside of the c-list of celebs. Party does look type thrown togethter real quick style though!
61.
bill
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Tocarra’s Mother is the stunning Young lady in the First picture, to the Left in the Yellow Dress.
We can’t figure out if she’s butt toothed, or maybe she has a gold tooth.
For Five dollars, she will go out on a date with you
62.
oyster
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
bill have you heard about sinbad?
63.
heller !!
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
LOL @ BILL : BUTT TOOTHED
64.
me
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
jay’s always smiling when beyonce is not standing next to him
65.
Krystin
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
okay dont gang up on me! lol is it just me or did BEyonce lose a lot of weight on her face ? Toccara’s mom does not need to open her mouth in pics, her lil sis is real cute a mini Toccara. LMAO at #15 and #20 yall are funny as hell….
66.
Blkense
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Tocarra is a sexy be-hatch! Go girl!
67.
Krystin
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
oh and yes SINbad r.i.p did pass away! I have a link on it.
68.
Whats Love
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
How the HELL did Tocarra and her sister come out looking so Gorgeous..Look at that Mother of theirs!! She got Momma Knowles beat in the Oogly Department!
69.
Tizzie Belle Jenkins
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Jigga looks like a mutant ninja turtle!
70.
Tizzie Belle Jenkins
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
and Darryl Strawberry’s long lost tortoise faced twin!
71.
bill
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Is Sinbad Dead ???
I Haven’t heard anything…
Something like that would have been posted on Mediatakeout or Crunk & Disorderly ASAP…
Until I see it On Crunk & Disorderly, I won’t belive it !!
* It takes CL about a day or two to get current news
72.
QBEVE
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
BAM BAM is too funny, this should be a “caption” post as to what the hell Toccara was thinking? LMAO…CL Family is off the hook yall! Been gone for a min,but I always miss my daily dose of CL paradies and funnies! LAMO~
73.
HONESTY *the honest chick*
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
ok we see tocarra she is soo pretty he mom is so cute her mom looks like fun her sister also, her grandmother looks like a grandma that will spoil her grand kids but thats a good thing ha ha ,ohh look at rich boy iam happy he enjoying life love his new video,i see musiq too iam soooo glad he’s back like his new song also , remy looks a mess ..wow,jay looks like he’s having a good time great for him beyonce looks happy also ,but they only stayed for 10 min man thats crazy i wonder what they was in a rush to leave for hmmmmmmm…ha ha iam just playing i heard they went to dinner for some alone time ,good for jayonce’
74.
bill
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
I googled SINBAD’s name, and I didn’t get any breaking news…
Crunk & Disorderly or Mediatakeout didn’t mention anything…
Unless, YOU heard it on Tom Joyner or Steve Harvy’s Morning show, it’s just a rumor…
75.
queshia
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Who would have known Tocarra would get love like this Happy Bday Tocarra.
76.
CHERYLINMIAMI
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
43. Jazzy Jay said:
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That first pic was not very cute of Tocarra, but i guess when ur just havin a good time u dont think about things like that, u just pose,
Why is Beyonce and Jay there? Whats the connection?
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Tocarra celebrated her 25th birthday on Tuesday night at PM nightclub in NY. She may not be America’s Next Top Model, but she got plenty of love for her bday with ex-VP of Def Jam - Mike Kyser hosting her birthday party. Folks like Kevin Liles, Jayonce, Musiq, and Remy Ma…
————————————————— DO YOU SEE THE CONNECTION YET?
77.
oyster
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
I know I haven’t found anything either, one other person on here responded that they heard the same rumor. Just asking. I guess I’ll find out the truth in time.
Thanks.
78.
Rep Da D
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
damn that’s what everybody say Remy Ma look a HAM in every photo she take. damn shame……toccarra lil sis is cute. And why do toccarra mama got that big ass gap in her damn mouth she know she need to close her mouth!
79.
Monistat, Cures the ITCH!!
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
sinbad thing is a rumor, just like when they said Urkel Died. They like to find celebs that are from back in the day and say they died
Toccara, sorry but she looking a little slutty,
why did jay and bee come, she must have paid them to come to her party. I mean they stayed 10 minutes…..IM JUST SAYIN!!
80.
angie
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
damn bam bam dat shit was tooo funny but beyonce and tacarra doo know each other they was all at that russel simmons thing for all star remember but tacarra do look a lot happy with jigga and looking like> who the fuck is this bitch
81.
foxxy380
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
LOL @ the way Tocarra is looking in that pic her and Bey took together. She looking like “now what the f^k does this b!tch want?!!!
It seems like the birthday girl had a good time.
82.
DAMIEN
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
wassup with kerry and the ANTMers? He’s always at their birthday parties. He was at Dani’s and Eva’s now he’s at Tocarra. Something fishy about his ass. Toco looks pretty most of the time with her ghettofabulousness
83.
Islandchick_Bri
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Tocarra looks nice, seems like she had fun…had A-listers coming thru n all….
Remy Ma reminds me of Ny’s mother
And LMAO @ Road Runner!!!
84.
BAM BAM
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Who’s that stunning creature with the headband in the “random group pic…with Musiq”?
85.
B-Dub
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
The Red Cross needs to recruite Tocarra, because her tits can feed several African countries for a year.
Remy Ma looks like Latrell Sprewell.
Rich Boy was only there to finish up his remix to “Throw Some D’s”. Apparently, Tocarra’s “tig ol bitties” are the star of the video.
Musiq always has on those dark sunglasses to hide his lazy eye. You’d think there’s a surgery to fix that by now.
86.
Ninagirl1
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Happy B-day Tocarra. U looked beautiful. Her mom and grandmother looks so proud of her. And atleast Beyonce and Jay showed up.
87.
BAM BAM
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Remy look like she caught the business end of the bleach bottle during a kitchen fight up in apt 6B of the Shirley Chisholm Houses out on MLK blvd.
88.
KittyKatt
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
I agree with #5 from what I hear Beyonce doesn’t have too many female friends in the industry. I don’t blame them I wouldn’t be friends with her either to turn around and get stabbed all up in the back!!!!
89.
QBEVE
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Come on CL….Sinbad is dead…you should had posted something by now….what up with that? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinbad_(actor)
Yall got to get a bit better with the timeliness of Black News, particularly as the elections are coming and your site support Obama…”get it right, get it tight”.
90.
ANGIE
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
The woman in the yellow dress in the first picture ruined the whole post for me.
91.
renee
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
My theory is that Toccora is Dating the guy who thru her the party he used to be with def jam! remember a few weeks back she was at russell simmons party in the hamptons with jayonce. the dude probably got them too to stop by.
92.
Tiffany
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
what the hell is wrong with toccara’s mother? She looks a little off to me. However, she looked like she had a great time for her B-day!
93.
TANNA
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
@ 89, Wikipedia is not a reliable source for news. Anyone can add something to the pages. Associated Press would have put something out by now if it were true.
94.
bill
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
QBEVE said:
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Come on CL….Sinbad is dead…you should had posted something by now….what up with that? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinbad_(actor)
Yall got to get a bit better with the timeliness of Black News, particularly as the elections are coming and your site support Obama…”get it right, get it tight”.
Bill Said:
I looked at your link, and I don’t understand why you stated that Sinbad is dead..
THAT particular link has nothing to do with the Sinbad we know
*From “It a Different World” & Live @ the Apollo !!
Respectfully
Bill
95.
D
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
I wanna break Tocarra off! I had a dream of me, her, and jennifer hudson all together doing the damn thing!
96.
LEESH
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Remy Ma looks like Rocky Dennis from the movie Mask.
97.
BashyBoo
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
WHY DOES DR. IAN LOOK LIKE CHRIS ROCK!!!!!
AND WHEN ARE TOCARRA’S 15 MINUTES GONNA BE UP??? DAMN!
98.
bill
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Qbeve
Sinbad isn’t dead…
Have you looked at YOUR link ?
That Wikipedia Article has nothing to do with the Sinbad that WE know
* From “It’s a Different World” & Live @ the Apollo
If Sinbad was dead, you should be able to google his name an come up with a NEWS report, stating that he died….
TMZ, MediaTakeout or Crunk & Disorderly would have sid something by now
or
Tom Joyner & Steve Harvey would have reported it on their morning shows !
Respectfully,
Bill
99.
bill
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
test
100.
bailey
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
@bam bam, bill, & tanna
yall are hilarious, I swear I’m laughing so loud the whole office is staring-
crackhead sally, joe’s pizza
beyonce clutches her purse, looks like she is ready to leave
“butt toothed” “VFW Hall”
asking jay-z for $ to buy a lucy
“business end of a bleach bottle”
“mighty open to many possibilities”
Now that’s some funny sh..
101.
bill
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
….Anything to make you laugh Bailey.
It’s our Pleasure !
102.
Beautiful
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Tocarra does have that Melissa Ford’s come and get me look..lol
That pic of her and Bee look phony. Must not be friends, huh
She has a beautiful family and everyone looks nice
Happy late B day Tocarra
103.
Woode29
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
# 51 You right about that…Toc carries it well though..I Wouldn’t mind slidin up in that!
104.
new yorker
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
how is she so beautiful yet her mother looks a mess?? her sister’s very pretty. i want to see her daddy b/c they must have gotten their looks from him
i see jay is trying really hard not to stare at Toccara’s chest! look at him smiling coyly. i know what he’s thinking.
105.
bill
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Forget Tocarra….Tocarra’s Sister is FINE !!!
* Not for ME (I’m married) but for some of my younger brothers on CL like Bam Bam or Meatloaf !
See, she’s:
Light Skinned…Long Straight Hair…Pretty Smile…
Her nickname should be Thickums or Snickers….
She probably the type to sneak guys in the house, while her mother is passed out on the couch from being dead drunk….
* I’m ASSUMING that she is OVER 21, because she at a BAR in NYC, where they serve Liquor !
106.
Ms. Duval
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
NICE PARTY, REMY LOOK LIKE( )YALL KNOW WHAT I MEAN, AND WHY WAS B AND J EVEN THERE. AND B COULDN’T EVEN GO TO THE SOUL TRAIN AWARDS, BUT TOCARRA PARTY, DAMN THATS MAD.
107.
Krystin
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
LMAO # 87 thats funny
108.
Krystin
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
the Sinbad thing is a rumor why.. because its on wikipedia lol they said that he died.. so this site if you may know is bull
109.
Sista Luv
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
what is “SMH”?
thanks
110.
Beautiful
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
SMH
Shaking my head
111.
Cher
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Well. I like B. I liked Tocarra on ANTM. But that season is over. Why is Tocarra considered famous? Yeah - public appearances at clubs, parties, and BET. What a hell of a resume. (lol)
They both look great. Looks like the party was fun.
Even if you show up for a second is better than not showing up at all if you were invited.
Well, time for me to get back to work so I can see Beyonce at the Rodeo!
112.
BigRay
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Toccara is a beautiful & charismatic woman but that dress isnt doing anything for her. It looks cheap and trashy.
# 75 Queshia: is that you on the pic? You look good girl…
113.
lashonda
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Tocarrra is busty as helllll!!!!!!!!!!!!those babies gonna burst free..dang
Remy Man is such a HAM its not even worth going on about it
Looks like Musiq stole all rich boy’s food. Annorexic dudes should def not be photographed w.ith men like Musiq, that dude’s head is swole up!!!!!!!!
Tocarra’s mum is pure gutter & so is the whole event. No wonder Bey lookin like “lemme get the hell up outta here, i’m too cute for this mess”.
Happy birthday neway Carra!
114.
urbanpreppy
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Tocarra look like she was having some fun on her b-day and momma well……I was gone to comment but I’m not gone to talk about her momma cause I don’t want nobody talking about mine
115.
H-TOWN-CHIC***
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
@#111 I was trying to win some meet and greet tickets yeaterday on 9.79 for Beyonce at the Rodeo but oh well…
116.
Pauline
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Are Mike Kyser and Toccara dating???
117.
Pauline
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Toccra’s sister is HOT!!! But if her mother is that light skinned, I am surprised that Toccara is not lighter skinned.
118.
Anika
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Beyonce looks like she’s there just to make an appearance. Make her face seen. And she was with Jay z. I wonder how long they bickered in the car before going in? Tocarra looks like she was not wanting to be in that picture cuz she knows. lol. anyway.
Im glad Ms Tocarra had fun. Go head girl.
119.
Keisha
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
wat hapen to remy?????????????
120.
Svetlana
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Beyonce always acts like her shit dont stink around black ppl.
121.
1finedyme
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
SURELY SHE HAS MADE ENOUGH MONEY TO BUY THE “TOOTHLESS WONDER” SOME TEEFUS!!!!
122.
Freaky Girlz
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
LOL AT NUMBER 45! JOKES!
TOCARRA’S A PRETTY WOMAN!
REMY MA LOOKS LIKE A MAN!
123.
Bed-Stuy
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
ONCE AGAIN, GOTTA CLEAR UP THE AIR HEADS:
1. MIKE KYSER IS ONE OF JAY’S BEST FRIENDS OF THE PAST 10 YEARS. HE USED TO BE A&R AT DEF JAM. HE CURRENTLY DATES TOCARRA AND GAVE HER THE PARTY.
2. THE PARTY WAS HELD AT PM NIGHTCLUB IN NYC. IT HAS A MURAL PAINTING OF PEOPLE, CHILDREN, ETC. WHICH IS WHAT YOU’RE LOOKING AT IN THE BACKGROUND.
3. IF YOU GO TO CORNEROFBEYONCE.COM, YOU’LL SEE ANOTHER PICTURE OF SHE AND TOCARRA BOTH SMILING WHICH INDICATES THAT THEY WERE IN THE PROCESS OF “GETTING READY TO SMILE AND TAKE THE PICTURE.”
4. JAY AND BEYONCE ONLY STAYED FOR 10 MINUTES AS THEY SHOULD. WHENEVER THEY DO THAT IT’S BECAUSE THEY WANT TO SHOW LOVE TO THE PERSON(IN THIS CASE, KYSER), BUT YET NOT DEFLECT THE ATTENTION OF THE PERSON THAT’S HAVING THE PARTY.
5. BEYONCE HAS ON A D&G JACKET AND JEANS - HOT! THIS GIRL ALWAYS COMES CORRECT.
6. TOCARRA, HER MOMMA, SISTER AND REMY ALL LOOK LIKE HOT GARBAGE (AS USUAL FOR REMY)! TOCARRA’S SPIRIT IS BEAUTIFUL, BUT SHE’S JUST TOO ALL OVER THE PLACE FOR ME. SHE ALSO NEEDS TO DRESS IN WHAT’S APPROPRIATE FOR HER SIZE. YOU CAN BE SEXY WITHOUT LOOKING SLOPPY - SHE LOOKS SLOPPY. I KNOW SHE WAS LOUD AS HELL - AFTER JUST A SODA!!!
124.
yes me
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
@123….. thank you atleast your the smart 1…….everybody had to just jump to conclusion tryna say that bey and TOCARRA are actin divaish……that is suck a air head comment, u people read into shit thats not even there, god dame, they have about 3 more pics together smilin …..but of course concrete loop know that people dont wana see that …they wana see the so called stuck up beyonce so u dumb fucks can fall str8 into it…..soooo stupid……
125.
strawcream
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Remy Ma is very ugly she should not be acting like she is the shit. Her face looks ghetto like in a street fight ugly damn!
126.
TANNA
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
You were right, MJ. Here comes the stans….
127.
yes me
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
here is the other link http://www.cobphotos.com/....jpg………... so u people can see how stupid yall are always tryna find a fault in summin even if u have to make up 1 just to start a conflict and then it becomes BEYONCE VS Tocarra…….please grow up
128.
BRITNEY
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
yall and this STAN shit is so lame …….i mean thats shit sound so corny…it sounds like the haters are tired of people callin them haters that the decided to use stan from EMMINEM…lololol so dame wack
129.
Nikki
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Tocarra looks very good. So does Kerry Rhodes. Is that her mom? Wow! She needs a dentist immediately. Oh my lord! @ Remy. Yeah, Tocarra doesn’t look happy with Beyonce, but she looks contented with Jay..hmmmm..
130.
yes me
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
http://www.cobphotos.com/...ocarraBdayParty1303/3.jpg
131.
msblacknasty1
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
jay looks like he waz havin fun dats prolly y bey was ready to go. lolololol cara waz prolly like bitch puleez to bey, leave but jay can stay. home gurl in da first pic wiff dat yellow dress is missn a toof or da gold is durty, lololololo tacara dont give a dam. dats y i like her ghetto ass she real tho lololololololo
132.
SEABREEZE
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
@#30-THATGUY—I WAS DYIN WHEN I SAW THAT PIC OF KCI. IT STILL CRACKS ME UP EVEN NOW!
133.
SEABREEZE
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
JSCENE-YOU AIN’T RIGHT FOR THAT ROADRUNNER COMMENT! *DEAD*
134.
SEABREEZE
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
#40-BAILEY YOU DEFINITELY HAVE A POINT.
135.
kiiamonet
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
I heard in an episode of Celebrity fit club or ANTM that Tocarra’s mother was a recovering drug addict. I think she may have had a relapse.
136.
Natalia
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Who is Tocarra?
Rich boy still gives me nightamres!
137.
MsConGeniality
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
I don’t really fuck with Tocarra like that, but she looks alright. I wish she would of got more dressed up because she really is an attractive women…but it is her life and she can do what she want to do. I like Remy Ma but she do look a mess…she need to change her hairstyle. Do you see the pic with Beyonce and Tocarra…They don’t even look like they want to take a picture together…LOL. What I’m trying to figure out is if Beyonce and Jay-Z only stayed for 10 minutes….What was the point of coming in the fucking first place…It doesn’t make sense.
138.
Kara
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Toccara is looking nice but i don’t know what to say about the mom and gramps….Beyonce is Beyonce. Rich Boy looks ooogly in that picture. Everyone on Youtube was feeling his song but they were getting off on his looks. Remy Ma looks a hot mess; this chick always amazes me with her poor clothing choices. WTF is up with the blonde bang and Blue-Green contacts? Other then everyone is cool.
139.
closetcolumnist
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Beyonce looks SO phony posted up next to Toccara (ok Bey we get it- your still mad about that whole Oscar thing) and Remy looks like she went to Sister Patterson’s stylist with that fo’head…
140.
Svetlana
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
TOCCARA’S SISTER IS PRETTY. BUT WHY DOES SHE LOOK LIKE HER WHOEL OUTFIT COST $10?
141.
size sexxy
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
REMY MA=HORRIBLE
142.
tianni
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
GO HEAD TOCARRA! HAPPY BIRTHDAY. I see she had those puppies peeking out that dress as well!!! LOL
SHE LOOKS GREAT!
I guess the crowd was too “ORDINARY & B-LIST” for JAYONCE to hang around beyond 10 minutes! 11 minutes would have been too long for them–I bet!
REMY MA: Looks SCARY as hell, with that 2 tone weave, gray/blue contacts, & absolutely NO MAKE UP. What was she thinking?
143.
MAN DING DING GO
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
I was nice for J & B to swing through. You are right, the party was quite down market for them to stay around and hang out. But, they did make the effort to stop on by. Good to clarify the pix of T & B, but it does look like T is thinking, “No Bitch, I ain’t Jennifer Hudson-Holliday!!”
Judgin’ from the looks of the event, T was right on point with her outfit, it was a low rent affair.
Remy Ma, looks like Dennis Rodman in Drag! I hate stylist and handlers, but this chic needs help, since she obviously tries to look like somethin’ human.
144.
Dave
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Beyonce is a STAR. Toccara is a light bulb. She should be happy to take a pic with her.
145.
LadyCole
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
i dont kno why im soo surprised that all these ppl showed up at her party
146.
MJ (RNB)
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Tanna, we all knew what was going to happen when Ms. Irreplaceable makes an apperance. She showed up for 10 mins., people will make a ten paragraph essay on her life story, and what she did 10 yrs, ago. A damn shame.
147.
Khinje
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
THANK YOU #123 Bed-Stuy for the clarification. Even after your post which makes perfect sense to me, folks are still trying to make something of nothing regarding Bee and Tocarra’s pic and why Bey and Jay only staying for ten minutes….SMH
Is it me or does Toccara’s grandma look like Weezie Jefferson?
Y is Toccara dating Mike Kyser? Ugh! I would have jumped on that Kerry Rhodes dude she’s pictured with personally, but to each his/her own.
SO THAT’S REMY’S REASON BEHIND THE THEM UGLY ASS BANGS SHE REFUSES TO CUT/REMOVE, LOOK AT THAT BIG ASS FORHEAD!!!LOL Co-sign with the person who said she looks like Rocky Dennis from the movie, “Mask”.
LOL!
And LMFBAO as Remy’s Family Dollar shirt. Brotha/sista who made that comment, you must be from the South!
148.
Krystin
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
damn @ #123 she straight nailed everything wow.. thank you
149.
million$smile
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
remy need a new color
150.
Whats Love
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Do you guys realize that half of the comments about Beyonce are from people commenting on people who comment about Beyonce..Lets think people…
151.
Jasiebu1227
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Who the fuck is she????
152.
TY
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
LMAO@59…Beyonce look scared as hell! Po’ child.She probally clutching her pusre ’cause she got her thing of mase in case somethin’ pop off:I’m ready for you Bitches,if somebody wanna act stupid!!!!
153.
J. Kisszy
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Rich Boy is soooo!!!!! ugly!!!
154.
chelleZ
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
wdf is goin on in Remy Ma’s life?!
155.
MJ (RNB)
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
I take back that positive comment about Remy Ma. She is still Queen HAM!
156.
nodin but da truth
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
The lady in YELLOW with her hands on Tocara’s hip is the PRETTIEST one in the photo. She looks CLASSY and has a SMILE to DIE for. TOCARA looks really trashy and needs to take some lessons from the lady in YELLOW on how to present herself.
157.
MS. DIALLO
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Y DOES HER AND BEYOUNCE PIC LOOK SO FAKE LIKE BEYOUNCE IS LOOKING LIKE I DONT LIKE HER BUT WERE TAKING A PIC AND I’M PHONEY SO SMILE CABMRA IS HERE I DON’T LIKE BEYOUNCE NONE SINGING ASS ALWAYS SHOWING HER BOBY 2 MAKE HER SALES SHE SHOULD START DOING PORN.NO BEYOUNCE NOT MY BABY GIRL TOCORRA
158.
Dave
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Damn Remy Ma! Shit! WTF! Ouch! Geez!
159.
Queen of Hp
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Remy Ma looks just like a man. Her face look bumpy like she just shaved and her forehead is super masculine, she need to back up out the camera lol.
160.
Cast A Spell
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Man,makeup does wonders.
161.
Jazzy J
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
#76 CHERYLINMIAMI
ok so cuz Jay is the new president, and the ex president threw it, he had to be there?
I guess thats a good reason to come to a party.
Thanks for the info
162.
babyboss
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Kerry Rhodes who is that? he shall is sexxxxxxxxxxxxy
163.
Woode29
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Damn Beyonce..sit yo ass down please.. I would wish you ill, but regardless of how much I hate yo ass.. You are a sista’.. But damn..Can’t somebody else get some shine?? It’s obvious TOC was not thrilled with your prescense!
164.
Woode29
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
CL yall censoring posts???
165.
Woode29
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
Forgive my spelling errors.. Im throwed of that Courvosier…
166.
moxpoe1
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
when r yall gonna get off of beyonce’s back. I think it’s nice that they took time out of their busy schedule to even stop through.
167.
Cassie
Thursday, March 15, 2007 /
omg woode29…..your so dumb, im sure Tocara invited beyonce u stupid fuck…grow up cause u sound like your 10 years old…what does shining have to do with attendin a party….she aint performing…..ur a str8 dumb ass…u hate her so much but yet u still on her shit get off her clit…your such a hater and u said it your self how much u hate her, like she slept with your man …get a life
168.
me2
Friday, March 16, 2007 /
Toccara in the picture with beyonce like dis bitch. Beyonce like hurry up and take dis damn pic so i can get the fuck up outta here all these damn black people. Beyonce: Jay, Jay where are u. Oh there u go come on boo lets hurry up and get the hell outta here, i aint tryna die. Sike naw but Toccara looks pretty, she’s definely lost alot of weight. Looks fun
169.
Tata
Friday, March 16, 2007 /
@#117 Pauline: Something (like your comment) tells me you may not have gotten past 8th grade physical science while completing your education. Sweetie, take a biology course, focus on DNA and genetics. It will explain to you that a mother being light doesn’t automatically mean her offspring will be. You may have meant no harm with what you stated but it made you seem…well…ignorant.
170.
Tata
Friday, March 16, 2007 /
I just had a “Bill” moment. After tonight I am offically one of his fans. Bill you are to funny. It’s fun because at first I couldn’t stand you. I appreciate your comments now. So you married, huh? LOL
171.
Reggie's Girl
Friday, March 16, 2007 /
Do you guys realize that half of the comments about Beyonce are from people commenting on people who comment about Beyonce..Lets think people…
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I thought I was the only person who noticed that!
172.
FACE
Friday, March 16, 2007 /
One of the few black chicks I would just gorilla fuck all night
173.
Lori
Friday, March 16, 2007 /
B and Jay are there because of their connection to Mike Kyser (the one that threw the party for Toccara). It says in this post that he’s the ex-VP of Def Jam. Is that her boyfriend? In the pics on the other site, they seem pretty hugged up.
174.
Lori
Friday, March 16, 2007 /
Oh, I see that #123 cleared up the “Why B and J are at the party” question already.
175.
Erica Butler...me and my boyfriend in GA who drive a busted as wanna be imported American made...2 tires from being a ford escort talks to me like the trash that I am...probably goes to magic city more than work...black as night, ugly as ass on a hot july
Friday, March 16, 2007 /
and if you do your hair like mine i won’t be your friend any more…oh and don’t try to pose like me either because i’m paranoid like that!
176.
Erica Butler...me and my boyfriend in GA who drive a busted as wanna be imported American made...2 tires from being a ford escort talks to me like the trash that I am...probably goes to magic city more than work...black as night, ugly as ass on a hot july
Friday, March 16, 2007 /
and if you do your hair like mine i won’t be your friend any more…oh and don’t try to pose like me either because i’m paranoid like that!
177.
DivaKai
Friday, March 16, 2007 /
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH boy here we go again! You guys act as though its unheard of for celebs to stay only a few minutes at parties. Most celebrities club hop, put in a quick “appearance” then roll on out to next party. Why is this any different?: They didnt have to show up at all, considering that they are both considered A-List celebs now and while Toccara is fairly well known”now” shes not exactly considered on A list level. She has been getting alot of luv and reppin for the Plus sized black women, so I can respect that. Maybe shes connected to someone who is connected to other celebs and they came out to show luv because that”connected” person asked them to.
The pic was probably awkward for both ladies because they dont really know oenanother. You know how it is when you go to a family reunion,lol or event and the photographer says I want to get a pic of yall,lol and placed you next to someone you dont know well or never met, or met 1 time and says “SAY CHEESE”! Inside your like ok now I really just wannt to get back to f*ckign up my plate full of barbeque ribs now”
What matters is that she celebrated her bday , seemed to have a great time, and had family in attendance.All yall talkign shyt about her mama need to quit because some of yalls family dont look any better.
178.
jewel13
Friday, March 16, 2007 /
Tyra wasnt there? Anyway, her breasts look like they hurt in that dress. I’m lmao at the pic of her and Bee, neither one of them wanted to take that one. Tocarra has that “who invited this bitch” look.
Okay Mike, we get it, you pulled out your Blackberry and hit up all your ex-coworkers for this one. I cant imagine why half these muhfuckas would show up for Tocarra.
We all know why Musiq & Rich Boy were there, hell any publicity is good when your album’s dropping.
And Remy, please let that one blonde track go. That hairstyle takes me back before lacefronts & fusions, when chicks were in their bathroom w/a pack of tracks and that damn bonding glue. Remy, you’ve made enough money to step your hair game up. Geez.
Who is that toothless hag with her hand on Tocarra’s ass?
179.
JEWEL
Friday, March 16, 2007 /
LOLOLOL to #45 and #47. Funny.
180.
MsConGeniality
Friday, March 16, 2007 /
Wow…it is a lot of people in here that is getting real upset just because people want to state their own opinion…I mean come on now…its not that serious…this is a free country.
181.
Im_bossy601
Friday, March 16, 2007 /
Toccara looks beautiful(as always)
Beyonce looks fab(as always)
Jay still looks like Joe Camel but he is still the best rapper alive
Remy is ugly as hell. She looks like Eddie Murphy in Vampire in Brooklyn.
Rich Boy looks like a shrunken head.
182.
mzsticnmove
Friday, March 16, 2007 /
10 minutes is not very long for us…but for a celeb who is usually paid for their time and appearances it is sufficient enough especially if they other plans for the night . Most likely they did come on now its “Mrs jigga and her Nigga”
183.
Woode29
Saturday, March 17, 2007 /
Cassie stfu HOE..Go take some midol..
184.
WANDSWORTH
Saturday, March 17, 2007 /
I know I shouldn’t be talking about mothers but…………
TOCO’S MOTHER IS TORE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!
GOT DAMN!!!
She got a good turn out though considering she isn’t really a celebrity
185.
314Gyrl
Saturday, March 17, 2007 /
Tocarra has done well for the full figure ladies, but this looks real ghetto. No one is ultra dressed up, so it must have been put together at the last minute.
186.
jovangirl
Saturday, March 17, 2007 /
JAY-ZZ LOOK LIKE HE’S LOOKING AT TOCARRAS BREAST IN THAT ONE PIC LIKE “GIRL, BACK UP BEFORE BEE TURN SOME 03′ BONNIE AND CLYDE S#IT UP IN HERE”
187.
Jelisa
Saturday, March 17, 2007 /
okay first off, Remy looks a hot mess weather ya’ll wanna admit it or not she does. And as for Tocara she a beautiful girl and i do love her, but there are some things i can’t stand about her. But she a real person and she has her flaws just like every body else so ima gonna leave it at that. Any way uuhm im reallly not feelin the way remy came to her party lookin and Ruch BOy look like he needed a damn I.V or something is it just me or do he look like he need radiation or something!lol! let me stop her party look real hood-exclusive and im lovin it she had bee and Jay at her party thats really hard to do. So im lovin it and as always she keepin it fresh. Love you Tocara!
188.
Kammy
Saturday, March 17, 2007 /
Toccara is only 25????????????? I thought she was older than that she looks older than 25.
189.
sugarbaby76
Saturday, March 17, 2007 /
the bests comments ever damn i am peeing myself
190.
Oh so cute
Sunday, March 18, 2007 /
Looks fun.Wish I could have been there.Tocarra a party animal.Rep’in for big girls
191.
Lil_Mama_Bad
Monday, March 19, 2007 /
ALL I GOTTA SAY ABOUT TOCARRA IS…..”You wouldnt get far……..” Shes from my home town of Dayton OH, & I heard sooo much about her & her strippin ways!
192.
STfUHh0E
Friday, March 23, 2007 /
W0W i NEVER NEW ShE WAS MiXd HmMZ W0WSkiDUDEN BEYNCE STAYEd f0 10MiNZ D0E SMfH
193.
4real4real
Friday, March 23, 2007 /
Tocarra is sexy as hell. She’d get far with me…lol. Moms looks like she done had a drink or two to many.Mad props Tocarra keep on doin ya thing thing ma
194.
apache77
Wednesday, November 21, 2007 /
hey, dat broads gaddammn hott. I love those tits, daamn
195.
Jason
Wednesday, July 23, 2008 /
I don’t understand yall Bloggers that be hatin,especially on Toccara fine self! I would like to what yall be lookin like on here!how come yall dont put pictures of yallselves?And how you gon comment on what kind of a celebrity she is(A-list,B-list,ETC.)And you not even a celebrity?She’d slap yo face in real life!GETTALIFE!Why yall worried how long jigga an beyonce stayed?