He knew it was wrong, and so did she! They both chose to cross that line! But, he knew more than her, that it was his responsibility to keep his hands off her. Just like Sparkle and her parents knew that she needed PG at all times in an x-rated envinorment! Black studios are not chior rooms! Even Motown had its moments!

R. Kelly only added to her injuries and camera readiness! He needs supervised correction and she should be counseled and watched! As the case drags out, they both seem to have grown from the incident! She’s triving, and he has avoided any further trouble over the past 5 years! That’s worth something!

This case is like the female school teacher who has sex with a boy (or girl) student! Society “kinda” wants to punish her, but no one really seemed injured! Society “kinda” wants to call it rape, but no one really seemed forced or manipulated! Society “kinda” wants to prosecute the offender, but no one really seemed to step forward and bare witness!

Court decisions in statutory rape cases rely heavily upon evidence of injury, force, testimony and the age of victim! In this case, there are no injuries, no sign of force and no witnesses! Only the victims age and the tape!

So, a decision will be made on the surreal interpretation of the tape by its viewers!!! I have not seen the tape, but one writer said the “little girl was riding Kellz like a grown ass woman”. What parent sees clear evidence and then looks the other way when their child has been harmed? That’s really strange!

Eye for an eye! Intercourse is a big step up from a golden shower! If he only pissed on her, I would say, let’s get 14 drunken sailors with full bladders to piss back on him! But, if it can be proved that he had intercourse with her, he should be corrected with jail time and financial restitution!

These are the only equitable forms of punishment, short of Capital punishment and castration to avoid any further incidents by R. Kelly and to send the message to others for zero-tolerance! Death or castration would be to servere for a case without force, injury or real witnesses…especially only surreal ones!

What the fans do to show support of distain for Kelly, is each individuals choice!

Random…!

Still wrong, Lola, still wrong.

No MJ(RNB)….I agree with you..he dead azz wrong and sick. I was just stating that homie was not 23 at the time he was 27 which means that he REALLY too old to even be looking at that child like that let alone having sex with her and marrying her.

I refuse to support his azz ever again.

R. Kelly Released On $750,000 Bond

06/06/2002 7:00 PM, Yahoo! Music
Jerry Armor

(6/6/02, 7 p.m. ET) — R&B singer and producer R. Kelly posted a $750,000 bond Thursday (June 6) and was released from a jail in Florida’s Polk County. Kelly was arrested Wednesday (June 5) after being indicted on 21 counts of child pornography.

Kelly, charged with having sex with an underage girl in a widely distributed videotape, maintains that he is not the man on the tape.

Chicago Police Superintendent Terry Hillard said that investigations by the FBI forensics department and other experts determined that both Kelly and the underage girl are captured on the tape, and that the tape is legitimate, AP reported.

Following the hearing, Genson refuted charges that there is an underage girl in the video. “The claims in this case are unfounded,” Genson told AP. “The charge is that there’s a young lady under the age of 18 on that tape and there isn’t.”

Attorney Ed Genson said Kelly would return to his home in Chicago once he regained his composure, saw his wife and children, changed clothes, and got some rest.

Richard Devine, state attorney for Chicago’s Cook County, explained why child pornography charges were filed as opposed to statutory rape charges. “We brought the charges we thought appropriate at this stage,” Devine said.

Kelly has also faced three other sexually related lawsuits. He has settled two of the suits, and intends to fight the third, filed on May 24.

– Billy Johnson Jr., Los Angeles

ok, everybody talking about the picute, well don’t you all know the picture was done like that on purpose so you all would feel sorry for him, they’re trying to show you the effect all this is having on him.

And for everyone calling him a rapist or mollester, well he has not been proven guilty yet and being a person who spent a night in jail for something I DID NOT DO!!! everyone deserves their day in court, because the system is fucked up and just like the majority of your comments prove, the real system is guilty until proven innocent.

Lastly, not hardly defending him but I do agree with the rich black and famous comment. We all know someone, or may even be related to a male who brought home or messed around with a YOUNG lady, they had no business with and not one of you called the police. Do get me wrong it is DEFINETLY a problem, but unfortunetly they chose him to make example of.

And as a side note.Just because a person feels that musically R kelly is talented or gifted ( I DO) that does NOT mean that we agree with what he did. ( I DONT)

looks rough lol

I’m a FLIRT, It’s the remix. She be calling me daddy, I’ll be calling her mommy, she be calling you Kelly, when your name is Tommy! The moral to this story is to cuff your B—-!!!
I love him!!!

Bill,

What do you make of that article, written nearly 5 years later? The Chicago State Attorney filed child pornography charges as opposed to statutory rape charges, because it seemed more appropriate.

So, why does everyone saying that he rapped her? I feel like something very sad happened on that day, but the facts can go either way in the court of law! This is not the slam-dunk case that the ones who saw the tape think that it is!

It could be the CSA who dragging this case out to cause Kelly to age a bit! Chicago’s ghetto/slum mentality is moving forward, but there’s still a long ways to go!

JUST FOR THE RECORD:

STEVIE WONDER = GENIUS
PRINCE = GENIUS
MICHAEL JACKSON = GENIUS
CURTIS MAYFIELD = GENIUS

R KELLY = SLIGHTLY BETTER THAN AVERAGE COOKIE CUTTER R&B. PERSONALLY, NOTHING HE’S EVER WRITTEN HAS EVER BEEN CONSIDERED LIFE-ALTERING OR DEEP. JUST SEX AND PARTY JAMS AND SHIT AND BELIEVING HE COULD FLY LIKE BUGS BUNNY.

OH, AND PEE PEE.

Meatloaf,

I honestly don’t think that the Chicgo Prosecutor has enough evidence to Charge R. Kelly with this crime.

I’ve never seen a case drag on for FIVE YEARS.

They either obtained the evidence illegally, or they question the intergrity of the young girl involved.

R. Kelly also has a very good lawyer.

160. BAM BAM DU PEE, that is an impressive group of geniuses, but you have to admit that Kelly is a full-time student of the music industry, who has hung around for a long time with phenominal success!

I would say that Stevie, Prince, Michael and Curtis are PHDs, whereas, Kelly is a professional student! When he came out with the step songs, it was at a time when we were drowning in gangsta rap and groups from England! And, don’t forget that he’s puts the finishing touches on hundreds of songs sung by other artist! And, three of those genuises are still alive doing nothing lately!

I’m not a big fan of his “classical” influence, but even that $#!T is a refreshing change! If he’s average cookie cutter R&B, then he’s using Ms. Field’s recipes! Sometimes, it just good to be reminded to get with the family and do the two step rather than that bird dance that Snoop, Diddy and Bow-Wow does!

I still want to know if the tapes show him having sex, simulating a sex act, or just pissing on the girl, because the state attorney backed off of the rape charges to child porn! What does it show???

BAM BAM DU PEE said:

R KELLY = SLIGHTLY BETTER THAN AVERAGE COOKIE CUTTER R&B. PERSONALLY, NOTHING HE’S EVER WRITTEN HAS EVER BEEN CONSIDERED LIFE-ALTERING OR DEEP. JUST SEX AND PARTY JAMS AND SHIT AND BELIEVING HE COULD FLY LIKE BUGS BUNNY.

OH, AND PEE PEE.
—————————————————–

LMAO!!!!

keep your head high R kelly I am praying you.

oh please dont pull that “rich and black” bullshit. he pissed on a little girl end of story. i dont care if he was white, green, purple that shit is messed up.

elmo needs his azz whooped 2

http://joewilson.journalspace.com/?entryid=388

R.Kelly is guilty of being a rich Black pedophille.

That shit is messed up, but what about that dumb ass chik? Didnt she consent?

@76 I take it your not a parent either. YOu have to understand no matter what you do you cant shelter a child from this world! Your nieces dont watch MTV or Bet .Do you believe that’s the only place she will get tainted information about the world? Have you watched cartoons lately? You should see some of the stuff the have on those shows! Its everywhere you cant hide it from them .The best thing you can do as a parent is educate your child and pray they take the correct path. Taking away Television show arent gonna help if their friends are watching them its really like their getting a taste of it too..

i dont support this pedophile.

WHAT R.KELLY AND THAT GIRL DID WAS WRONG.I DON’T FEEL SORRY FOR NEITHER ONE OF THEY ASS’.BESIDES,IT TAKES TWO TO TANGO.

@169, I never said you could shelter a child from the world. If that’s how I came across my mistake. The point I was trying to make is simply that networks like BET and Mtv add to children adopting behaviours they shouldn’t normally be exposed to. Although I am not giving the full blame to these networks they still share the responsibility to a degree. It’s not just teenagers that they’re targeting anymore it’s the little ones too. The faster they brain wash a child with foolywang material the better for their corrupt pockets. Little girls see grown women with voluptuous bodies that are scantilly clad and “booty popping” and they interpret that as what they are supposed to do for love and attention from men. You’re right I don’t have kids and I don’t want any for the time being but I don’t see how what I said could lead one to believe that I am childless unless you’re trying to imply that I am naive, not that I really care but if you are then it’s your mistake. Btw, they don’t watch those cartoons either. It’s Play House Disney, Noggin etc…I’m not trying to be rude or confrontational but everything you said is realy just preaching to the choir.

Is it me or should R. Kelly b wearin a orange jumpsuit sharin a cell wit bubba already??! Hot damn!! He looks str8 greasy, like 8 ball said: “golden like a piece of fried chicken” lol

*haters wanna hate
*Lovers wanna love
*I don’t even want
*None of the above
*I wanna piss on u

DRIP, DRIP, DRIP
Pee on u, piss on u

*LMFAO* I had 2 do that

It’s funny the girl is getting ridiculed for something she did when she was 14 and underage(called hoe etc.), but R Kelly gets a Vibe cover VIbe makes me want to throw up..

DOUBLE STANDARDS

F*ck For tracks do you know how many men in the music industry sleep around and F*ck for tracks? U r soo ignorant.

What really disgusts me is the fact this man has two young daughters and that his wife was underage when they met.

The burning question I want someone to ask him is how would he feel if some guy pissed on his own daughters and had them turning tricks on tape?…Can I get a response to that one?

amy winehouse? isn’t she the new amel larrieux?
all the nimrods love her now..the new PALE flavor….
she sucks azz and so does nicole from pussycat dolls…
but then again some dumb azzes think keisha cole is an artist, too.
WAKE UP AND SUPPORT SOMEONE WHO CAN SING, PEOPLE!!!!!!!
DAMN!!!!!

DON’T HE LOOK A LIL CROSS-EYED TO YALL?

176. No Hate,truth State said:
——————————————————amy winehouse? isn’t she the new amel larrieux?

KIMMI SAYS:
the new WHO? What?
nahhh man….AMY WINEHOUSE IS THAT BITCH. her albums are GENIUS. I DON’T GIVE A FUCK WHAT COLOR SHE IS. I DON’T GIVE A FUCK IF SHE A CRACKHEAD OR NOT. SHE’S THE SHIT. AND SHE’S NOWHERE NEAR “NEW”
GET UP ON IT…

@MEATLOAF

YEAH, I’LL BACK DOWN A LITTLE AS FAR AS R BEING WELL-TRAINED MUSICALLY, BUT MY BEEF WITH HIM IS WHERE IS THE LYRICAL CONTENT TO GO ALONG WITH ALL THAT TRAINING?

THE BEST BLACK MUSICAL GENIUSES HAD SOMETHING “TO SAY”.
I’LL ADMIT THAT THE GOSPEL PORTION OF THAT DOUBLE HAPPY PEOPLE CD WAS A LITTLE UPLIFTING, BUT HE NEEDS TO BE MORE CONSISTENT FOR ME.

WHEN I WEIGH HIS WORK AGAINST THOSE THAT I MENTIONED, HE JUST COMES UP SHORT. PERHAPS HE WILL CHANNEL ALL OF THESE TRIALS AND TRIBULATIONS AND DELIVER AN OPUS ON THE SCALE OF MARVIN GAYE, WHOM I FAILED TO MENTION ON MY LIST, AND GIVE US A STATEMENT MORE WORTHY OF HIS VAST TALENTS, WITH SOME POLITICAL AND SOCIAL COMMENTARY SPRINKLED IN THERE (THAT’S PROBABLY ASKING TOO MUCH) ALONG WITH HIS GREAT PARTY STUFF.

TOO MUCH OF THAT IS MISSING IN TODAY’S R&B. I DON’T WAN T TO GET HIGH-MINDED, BUT DOESN’T OUR YOUNGER GENERATION DESERVE SOME BALANCE LIKE WE WERE GETTING BACK IN THE DAY? SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY REQUIRES THEM TO THINK WITH THEIR MINDS AND NOT THEIR CROTCHES, A LA PRETTY RICKY?

THEN AGAIN, IT ALL SEEMS LIKE SUCH A LOST CAUSE, THE STATE OF RADIO BEING WHAT IT IS TODAY. LET’S AT LEAST HOPE THAT SOME JILL SCOTT, DWELE, BILAL AND GOAPELE WILL CREEP THROUGH……..

If you guys ever get the chance, watch Classic Albums on VH1 Classic. They have an hour long segment on the making of Stevie Wonder’s Songs in the Key of Life that will put a lump in your chest!

@Meatloaf.

Don’t be offended, but I believe I did not address your post properly. So please pardon the rant.

Last I checked having sex with a minor is a crime, being 14 and fucking a grown man is not a crime for the 14 year old (damn shame, not a crime)

Saw the tape r-kelly pissed on and had sex with the girl. You could tell the girl was young because she was trying to dance for him and her moves resembled those of a 12 year old in the mirror practicing some shit she saw on t.v.

Some of you on here are vicarously, living out your own pervetic fantasies through R-Kelly, for once stop thinking with your dicks and think about the fact that this is not the only underage girl that he has had sex with and this is a pattern for the man, I wouldn’t be surprised if he was sleeping with his own daughters, and need I remind you that this negroe was married so why is he having sex with anybody other than his wife? I know somebody will explain that away as well. R Kelly is only acting out what happen to him, he was molested by an older man in his neighborhood when he was younger and the pervert is continuing the cycle! Negroes will justify any damn thing-no body has morals, values, or just plain common damn sense anymore!

End of Story-will justice be served, probably not!

oh no its mr pee-pee.he needs to be locked under the jail.unless they doing head transplants these dayss that is most def r kelly in that video and it is so sickening especially when i think about my nieces or my sisters or the fact that he has 3 daughters himself

No offense taken! We just talking “random” about the good of a man who went astray! Although, he lost his mind in that video, he’s still a talented artist! -IMO

He’s not the genius king of R&B…he calls himself the pied-piper of R&B! His LYRICAL CONTENT can be seen in that “In the Closet” series! I thought it was a little over the top, but he did take the time to think through something more than just, “booty, booty, boody everywhere” or “I like big Butts”!

R. Kelly and Lyfe Jennings are song writters, who specialize in life from the black experience back in the day, when everybody from grandpa on down would dance in the living room to celebrate the happy feelings of family!!

Now, on the subject of the victim!!!

Why is she called a little girl??? A the ripe young age of 13, Christ was about His Father’s business in the temple! But, even though I believe the girl was old enough to know right from wrong, the law says she should be 18 before making an adult and acting upon it! The law is mutually exclusive for a boy and girl having sex when they’re both 17 years old, but its clearly against the law for a 17 year old boy and 18 year-old girl!!! And, at age 18, she can consent to have sex with a 50 year old, but not with a 17 year old boy!!

brb

Song that R. Kelly is making for Whitney’s next album. Now this is the real R. Kelly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My-Psu3f-Rw

160. BAM BAM DU PEE said:

JUST FOR THE RECORD:

STEVIE WONDER = GENIUS
PRINCE = GENIUS
MICHAEL JACKSON = GENIUS
CURTIS MAYFIELD = GENIUS

R KELLY = SLIGHTLY BETTER THAN AVERAGE COOKIE CUTTER R&B. PERSONALLY, NOTHING HE’S EVER WRITTEN HAS EVER BEEN CONSIDERED LIFE-ALTERING OR DEEP. JUST SEX AND PARTY JAMS AND SHIT AND BELIEVING HE COULD FLY LIKE BUGS BUNNY.

OH, AND PEE PEE.

^^^^^ Truth.

BILL IS BACK?

It’s amazing how money can buy you anything in this day & age. Time, power, ‘justice’….

Some of you on here are crazed, deranged idiots. How can you support a man who is CLEARLY a paedophile?? ‘Oh, I’ll support him cos he makes great beats and he’s a legendary artist’. PLEASE!

He’s a nasty piece of work and as for Vibe magazine… does anyone buy that anymore?

OK ITS LIKE THIS. THESE YOUNG GIRLS SHOULD STOP BEING FLATTERED OVER WHAT PEOPLE HAVE AND START HAVING MORE RESPECT FOR THEMSELVES. R KELLY I AM SURE DIDN’T PROMISE TO PUT HER IN HIS HOUSE AND PLAN TO MAKE HER HIS WIFE, SO WHY THE HELL SHE MAKE HIM DO ALL THESE THINGS TO HER. I MEAN I AM 22 AND THIS GIRL LOOKS WAY OLDER THAN I AM. I WOULD HAVE MISTAKE HER FOR A MUCH OLDER PERSON. BOTTOM LINE IS MEN WILL BE MEN AND WE AS WOMEN MUST BE SMART. BUT EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OWN OPINION!!!!

188. Ms. G, if you stop supporting every artist who’s perverted or nasty, you’re gonna wipe out half of Hollywood! lol!

Example:

186. Chante’ said she won’t support Kelly, but she wrote “^^^Truth” next to her Michael Jackson’s stans! You just can’t have it both ways, all the time! He’s the most notorious child pinch in the history of this generation, and she still stans his genius!

No one is supporting what Kelly did, but his artistry has value in more than one way! A lot of you women would have left Kobe after he got nasty with that Colorado girl, but look at Venessa! She chose to look at the bigger picture!

There is a bigger picture to the Kelly story! I too wish that there was some jail time included in his miserable life, but that’s not happening anytime soon! So, are we to throw the baby out with the bath water?

And, Bailey said: “…Some of you on here are vicarously, living out your own pervetic fantasies through R-Kelly.” That’s really deep! How did buying his music get that serious? R. Kelly is set for life! We share in the hate for what he did, with you, but we don’t want him condemned!

And, if he is sleeping with his own daughters, you can bet that his wife knows about it! If you can figure out when a man is thinking with his dick, you can figure that $#!T out too!

Hate the sin, not the sinner!

I

@ Meatloaf RE: Michael stansin’

You know, when it comes to Michael, I gets torn! Even though he, too, clearly disgusts me with his man-boy love antics, his musical legacy stretches practically throughout my entire life and it’s so hard to excise the early part of when Michael & the J5 meant so much.

So, in his case, I’ll let it rest with “karma’s a shady ho who’ll take your wallet after you fall asleep”.

TRANSLATION: It’s over for him and his penance will be his perpetual pursuit of reclaiming his fame and relevance.

If the girl was white or if it was young boys (black or white) he would be in jail already or at least had a trial! To me this case says a lot about how young black girls are viewed. WHich is not surprising seeing how black women in general are being exploited as whores in every single music video you see! You have people saying “she knew better” “she ride dick like she was grown” Well so what. THat 14 year old could have had as much sex as she wanted to with 14 yr old boys R. Kelly was grown ass hell it’s a difference…sorry… but what disgust me about Mr. R is that he can have some of the most beautiful grown ass women in the world but would rather fuck with 14 yr olds! What a freak!

192. MIchael Touched Bam Bam “There” said: “…You know, when it comes to Michael, I gets torn.”

I understand that double standards are a part of life! I see gray writing all the time on CL! I try to error on the side of black or white! A pervert is a pervert is a pervert is a pervert! If you let it rest with Michael, you have to hold the samd standard for Kelly’s retardation!

I put Michael and Kelly in the same sea of forgiveness, because both of them know right from wrong! And BTW, Stevie has a bit of a history too!

I hardly think its over for Michael as long as he has those three children in his unsupervised company! His brand of abuse is family orientated, starting with Joe Jackson!

TRANSLATION: The Blanket ain’t safe on “Daddy’s” bed!

193. kat26 - actually, I believe its also a crime for 14 year olds to have sex with each other! It only takes one parent to file the complaint! Its not that a 14 year old can’t ride a “jimmie”, but children under 18 should not be having sex in America! Now, if we go to Africa or Vietnam, its a different story!

CHECKMATE!!!

Yeah baby, i sip Kriss and u drink piss.

Damn Kell’s! What Went Wrong? He still the King of Pillow talk. We’ll know when his trial date is set cuz dude gonna release another inspirational/ gospel lp. He gets saved everytime he messes up. Kell’s ye shall be baptised in da fiery pits of hell. God don’t like ugly so you’re gonna pay for that magazine cover. Thank ya, good evenin’, and I done left da damn building.

Why DO you think he is putting out so much music! He has got to be paying the victim and her family under the table. MONEY TALKS, BULL**** WALKS!

Pray to The Lord that our black culture decides as a majority to live a righteous life and that our black men would provide an example worth looking up to emulate. Pray to The Lord that our black women decides to live a life that requires respect and that would give our history another tale instead of the generation of de-generates. Thugs are played out. Pole dancers are played out. Rappers that exhale trash on a diamond-hubcap has caused most of the world to believe that Black people have given up on their God and chose a life of self-destruction. For what? The god of money. Is their anyone raising our black children to read books of quality? Does Snoop Dogg and 50-cent only love their children enough to protect THEM from the evils of the world but feed my children the garbage? The society that is being created in our community doesn’t Pray to God or Thank Him enough for how we are overcoming the ills of America –only by the Grace of God. We gotta start recognizing God by the life we live, the words that come out our mouths, how we dress, who we hang around, etc.. Get on our knees now for our sucesses in life and for our race. Let’s be able to go to sleep with a good and clear conscience. Did you give respect to the works of Malcom X today? Did you give respect to the works of Martin Luther King, Jr. today? Most importantly, is God proud of you today? Yeah. It starts with me. But I don’t live in this world alone. I need you too. Peace.
Signed, Still Black and Proud.