To: # 346 “ThinkAboutIt”

Keep in mind these same topics is what society expect from us black people.

man here we go wit the black americans versus the islands, of course yall gon take up for vanessa cuz yall feel she right, but if yall so called cultured and educated, u would have a decision based on nationality alone, i’m sure dere is plenty gurls like krystal in the west indies, hell vanessa is like krystal but wait she from v.ii. so it’s okay yall comment makes me wonder sometimes, vanessa just show her big mouth-ness

If you’re gonna talk about somebody at least get things right…Vanessa isn’t Jamaican…she is a Virgin Islander…It clearly says University of the Virgin Islands when you watch the show…

I really don’t think it was all about ratings, I mean we’ve all seen fights on these reality shows, I don’t think they thought it would get as bad as it did….however they did make the choice to air the footage they had.

On a side note:
Fallon: Where was her mouth when this was going on?
Will: Is pathetic.
JT: Started it.
Idesha: Defended herself as best she could.
Krystal: Had a shoe.
Vanessa: Would have busted her ass if not for the aforementioned sheet.
Conclusion: Krystal is the weakest link and she needs to biz-ounce =p

^^^^*shoe….lol

#21,What does Don Imus’ comment have to do with this fight whatsoever? First of all,if you think they’re nappy-headed,then that’s your opinion.But do you even know what a hoe is? A hoe is someone who goes aroung having promiscuous sex.Now I don’t watch the show so I’m not sure if those girls do have promiscuous sex,but just from that clip,how did you conjur up the idea that they were somehow living up to that statement?

Wow…ignorance is a b!tch.
I watch this show as i though it would add a cultural experience for kids who had biased thoughts on other cultures due to them never actually being there…i knew there would be some divisions…
…and apparently even this board is being divided just as easily as the cast of College Hill 4. You cant blame one side without the other in this senario. Its obvious that VI as well as Cali has problems(Cali kids probably have a bit more but what do you expect when others have home court advantage). Take no sides and blame the crew of this series for not stopping this whole ordeal when Vanessa jumped and ran. Even the “I Love New York/Flavor Of Love” Crew came out on camera if a fight felt possible. They all need to Shut The F^ck Up and goto school or something.(Willie Mack is the only actual sensible character on this show!)

A lesson was learned though:
If you want to fight someone(which is childish)…wait till they dont have a weapon in their hand!
That girl Krystal was getting straight headshots with the heel of that shoe in the beginning. She may have gotten outpowered after but people tend to judge fights by whos blood shows and how much is shown.

Overall…such a discrace.

This is somethin else. I think Vanessa would have REALLY messed Crystal up if everyone in the house wasn’t there to pull her off. And I’m surprised Crystal didn’t get her skinny behind broken in half in the fight. But I’m so mad that it was edited so poorly because I really want to know what Cheeky was saying. He sounded like he was trying to stop the whole thing and he was probably the only one making [but they don't want you to see that]. But everytime he started to talk they cut it. JT seems so fake to me though, mhmm did ya’ll see him on pimp my ride? …And why does Dre look like he’s about 16 years old?

*making sense

To # 374 pat

In your opinion their actions don’t represent you and what you stand for but when other races, people from different up brings and different nationalities see this would claim this as “Black Behavior”. Looking at anything negative one would in their minds judge that person that was involved, their family, friends, nationality and sometimes the whole race for that one person’s down fault.

We all as individuals do it (judge) subconsciously. When a national station displays it for the entire world to see and judge the entire race, is inappropriate. Where not talking about the KKK’s station airing this negative behavior, we’re talking about BET Black Entertainment Television. The key word is Black, sweetie.

I’m sorry to bring this up but it goes back to Imus making that ignorant statement. Other races never had respect for us Blacks and the little respect that we fought so hard for is being stricken away due to our own negative behavior towards our own people and self hate.

When will we ever learn as black men and black women that we come from a proud and rich heritage. We were the first to introduce written and spoken forms of language to the world while whites were still dwelling in caves. If it were not for the knowledge we passed on to the greeks and romans they would never have been the civilizatons that they were. Moreover, we must not forget that the Egyptian empires are the greatest the world has and will ever know. All, I am saying is that it now time to form a united front so that we can once again take our place as the example to the world.

Really the only thing that needs to be said is that this is a fight. That’s all! People fight, it’s a fact of life and though things can be resolved through talking that is not how it happens all the time. People fight! Let’s get over it.

But Kystral kinda deserved it cause she was talkin a good game and Vanessa hit her head or Krystal hit her wit something. But either way she got cracked point blank

Thats bitch got her ass whooped, she talked big shyt thru the whole show and she ran up on the srong bitch! LMAO because everybody had the lil skinny girl twisted. id rather see people FIGHTING THAN KILLING EACH OTHER. BACK IN THE DAY THAT WAS CALLED A FAIR FIGHT. NOBODY JUMPED IN AND VANESSA RAN UP ON THE WRONG FEMALE if anything that should teach somebody a lesson

Yo that shorty Krystal is gangsta

i think that it was a big culutre shock for crystal and that nothin was goin the way she had planned. i dont think fallon and crystal were bein disrespectful to the island culture i think they were just talkin about how different it is and vanessa took it the wrong ways cuz from day one she never liked crystal. and vanessa got hit wit a stelleto that is y she was bleeding. but she got what she deserved because she ran after crysta. crystal is so small she would have never won on her own!!!

I wish people would stop tryin to talk down on black people just cuz some of em act crazy on tv, hey, white people do too and nobody is like, “You see they are disgracing all white people” n blah blah blah, white people jump off buildings, wrestle bears, eat worms n shit, but we never hear anything about them talkin down on there race, u cant hold a few people accountable for damaging there race as a whole…Damn lighten up

I’m sorry, but she had no right to put her hands on that girl. I don’t care what she said. People can talk all they want, but you cross the line when you use physical violents. Fighting wont solve anything because now Vanessa is going home and Krystal will STILL feel the way she did when she walked into that damn house.

all the cali kids had no right to diss on the VI people because if they were going to come to the virgin islands than they shudve of known that they could understand them … i wanted vanessa to beat a bitch down!

First and foremost I give mad props to all the west indians and carribean people. Yeah I don’t think that it should have gotten that far, but being of west indian decent I got aggetated myself by the fact that all Crystal did from the moment she got there was complain. She had to have understood that from the moment she got there that she was in a totally different world. Nobody told her that she had to like it but at least make an effort to try to experience and learn the culture instead of just complaining about it. It is really offensive to have someone downing your culture all day everyday in your face in the same home. Tempers definitely were going to flare. Then this whole segregation crap that they all was talking about was just an excuse for the drama. If they were all truly adults for example Crystal she could have and should have taken the criticism constructively instead of blowing things out of perportion. The producers hsould have come on the show to do some damage control or something before it got to the point of them coming to blows.

Crystal had a fukin shoe in her hand!

Don’t know what the hell this is about…never watched the show…but if they looking for a replacement….I could sure do with a vacation in VI…

vanessa beat her butt. PERIOD. krystal had a HIGH HEEL in her hand and hit her in the nose. blood dun mean victory.

although fightin is ignorant, we all -majority, some- know damn well sumtimes we just go to that instead of 4getin tha obstacle at hand.

That fight was some good ass entertaining tv. Vanessa started whooping Krystal’s ass…but Crenshaw Krystal had a secret weapon: a heeled shoe in her hand. She tagged Vanessa’s head until it bled.

i AGREE WiTH #66 (BiLL)
THAT SHYT STARTED FOR NOOO FCKiN REASON..DAMN

Arrogance is much different from ignorance…Vanessa need to learn how to let ignorance slide….I’ve had people ask me if there’s cars in trinidad….I just look at them and think “u stupid cunt”….but with a smile say…no we still swing on vines….let ignorance slide

Dayyyyyyyyyyyyuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum! And that’s all i have to say…

366 I concur 100%. I couldn’t have said it any better.

ALl I can say is Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaammn! I love me some Island people but daaaaamn! If this is how y’all do, I cant marry my jamaican man anymore.

I agree it was entertaining, but on a serious note, I could not deal with a situation like that. Too much immaturity, no one ever wanted to take the high road and thats why it ended up in this situaion.

Still, ole girl didn’t have any business running up on Crystal like that so I see it this way, when you go looking for trouble, you find it. In this case, it came in the form of an Orange County, CA chick w/a shoe (or whatever it was) upside the VI girl’s head. LOL yall need to STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

People talk shit, hell all these gossip blogs talk shit.That does not give you the right to run up on somebody and hit them.Krystal was just defending herself.Vanessa is going home because she started the fight.

to #28 Charae
excuse me for being so blunt but i would like to know what in the world you talking about. i’m African and there is and has never been any need for me to be jealous of a girl because she was african-american. i’m sorry and how do YOU know its jealousy maybe the aura you portray or give is nothing positive.you have a lot of nerve to assume that every african is jealous of you.

this whole situation upsets me cause all young african americans are being grouped together like we all act like the cali kids. im from the states, and as far as im concerned the cali kids knew from day one that they werent going to be in their element, instead of them trying to embrace it, they f@cked it up. not only for themselves but for the rest of us cause if people didnt think we all act that way before, they damn sure think it now. i personally, and im sure alot of you would agree, if i was there i would have too busy partying and trying to see and learn different things to be complaining. your on an island, wth are you complaining for. that carnival thing that they went too looks like it was mad fun and the cali kids didnt it even give it a chance. that carnival aint no different that a block party, people in the street having fun.

as far as the fight goes… i believe crystal brought that on herself, its only so much disrespect a person can take. but i also think she was underestimated. she reacted the same way most of us would have, if somebody running up on you, you going do what you got to do to protect yourself. if that mean picking something up, so be it. p.s it looked like a spatula to me.

Please Meisha! Look at the first few seconds, kristal got more than a couple licks in wit the shoe. Man I cant stand that girl be she had me rollin lol! Once she saw that layla ali lookin chick bangin against the walls she RAN her ass to pick up that shoe. Now yall may think it aint fair, but neither is fightin someone who is 30 pounds lighter than you, shoot she used her brain an prepared in the little time she had before vanessa went at her.

And I think krista might have won cause she woulda kept on fuckin vanessa’s face up with the shoe. Plus krista had two dudes pullin her back and on the ground, while vanessa just had that one girl holdin her back so obviously she is gonna get more hits in. The only thing that mattered was how they looked afterward and although krista’s hair was wild, she didnt have blood smeared all over her face so krista wooped that ass. Maybe that bitch will think before she try to run up on skinny chicks cause we got ways of making the playing field even!

And wew onder why whites dog us black people out so much! The producers of this show need their asses whooped with a wet washcloth. Then the students..they are looking for fame like the Real World people. They fail to realize that thes hit won’t happen, they’ll return home disgraced and embarrassed!

do yall kno today in some schools in california there has been big brawls between west indians and african americans and i have 2 friends who have been attacked and are innocent to all this all cuz of a stupid show BET really made a example this time

I am not sure whose idea it was to play that game they played in the beginning of the show but that was the beginning of the end. I think it was who would each person like to marry, sleep with, and kill. And you had to put the people in order of what you would want to do with them. At first they used celebrity names and that made it fun. But it was a bad idea when they began doing that with the roommates names. If the whole point was to ease the tension it definitely didn’t help for the guy to say he would kill Krystal and sleep with and marry the other girls.

This is a classic example of what happens when people don’t discuss issues and allow them to fester. It boils over. Okay that is the mature adult speaking.

The other part of me was glad that fight took place because too many times I would walk by the tv screen when that chick Krystal was talking and just yell at the screen Shut the FUCK UP KRYSTAL. That chick would annoy the hell out of me.

I understand people are entiled to speak their minds and have their own opinions, but not at the expense of others. Saying that the people are ugly and smell. Well, if you are brave enough to say whatever, whenever, about whomever, be prepared to suffer the consequences. She has no respect for people feelings and one day she will offend the wrong person.

Crystal had kinda of shoe in her hand thats why Vannessa face got fucked up!!!! Wow what a disgrace… Wow.. Im speechless…

vanessa caught a beat down.. bottom line. its always the ones that talk to most mess.

Black people fell off. And you wonder why Imus calls our women Nappy Headed Ho’s when they act ignorant and shit all over national television.

shit and when I watch this on demnad I bet this damn episode be 11 minutes and 30 like it claim! that makes me mad bet need some better help all those damn commercials

I think she had a shoe or something in her hand! I saw it look really close!!

Now U Gone Blame A Lil Show For Fights At Schools Lol O Wow. Ppl Have Minds Of Their Own. Only Simple Minded Weak Individuals Get Influend Ta Do Wrong From T.v. Shows So Shut Up. Damn Ppl Takin This To Heart Lol I Hope Vanessa Go Home

Ok but what do these broads have to do with the raptors girls? Are you insinuating that all black people are the same….is that why we should welcome Imus’s comments? Besides fighting does not a ho make.

now that I watch it over again( it’s scary this #$%^ is addicting- watched It over and over again) neway - It took like five people to hold Vanessa back.and she was still able to get in some licks. Imagine what she would have done to Krystal - if they weren’t holding her- krystal might no be here today

@ #270 Woode29 and #293 Bailey, I see you guys understand where I’m coming from. When someone runs up on you, you do not know what that person’s intentions are so you are going to react accordingly. I am not one that will let you hurt me without me trying to take you out first. It’s just not going to happen.

Some of the American kids on that show are acting ignorant. Fighting wont solve anything but I understand where the Island kids are coming from. Black on black stereotypes can be worst than white on black. Some of the comments made on that show got me buggin out. Some people need to travel more.

422. BigRay

I AGREE

No that’s not how all west indian people do @ #404. If anything Vanessa had the right to bust Crystals ass in the face. You can only be around negativity so much. Now imagine that you were living with somebody different from you and all they did was down your culture and where you came from day after day I guaranty being west indian or not you would get to your boiling point. Also even if Vanessa tried to voice her opinion and try to get stuff off of her chest Crystal was such a dumb ass that she couldn’t even shut up and just listen. And that comment would be something that could be added to the ignorance

Um, Krystal needed to get her ass beat. I’m sorry to those saying that Krystal won. I guess because of the way Vanessa’s face looked in the end. But if you pay close attention, Vanessa was getting the most hits in. When it started she was tagging her, on the floor, when they got up. Even after her face got messed up she was still beating her ass.
And for JT to be so religious he sure did called Idesha a bitch. Fake ass

I didnt watch College Hill at all:) and I have only seen snippets here and there of previous College Hill shows.

Vanessa is one lucky girl she lucky she got whatever Krystal jacked her in the face with because if ol girl would have call herself runnin up on me like that she would have got layed the f^ck out literaly plus i wouldnt even care if they kicked me off with her atleast i know she know she got her a^^ beat but Krystal showed her a^s something when she jackced her ass with whatever she had in her hand and JT and Idesha that was a agrument between them Krystal and Vanessa should have stayed out of that and Vanessa should have never ran up on Krystal cause if she ran up on Krystal she should have ran up on Fallon too because Fallon was complainin and makeing statements just as much as Krtsyal about the island Fallon is messy though ever since she been on that island she has been makeing statements about things she sneaky with hers though she a 2 face motherf^ker JT is messy the whole house got issues they dont respect each other as people and dont want to learn anything about each other and that game they where playing around the table marry fuck kill that game made me go WTF dre or whatever white skin dude name is he should have never said kill Krystal and he got what he got when Krystal call him white skin that game they where playing was uncall for and calling someone aneroxic and he aint no size his own d@mn self whole show should be cancel.

i truly believe this beef against the 2 worlds was created. JT is smiling everytime he makes a comment. and why do the Cali peeps try to act like they never seen or been through some of the stuff the island kids do. i mean who doesnt like a carnival setting. cali kids trying to act saddity, why i dont know. as far as the fight, island check face doesnt tell the truth about the fight cause she truly whooped cali chick A##!! JT is a punk! the producers need to send JT home, it escalated after he told idesha to speak his language, he understood her up until then. why all of a sudden. too much editing was done. but in the end its the cali kids fault. trying to act like something i can bet they are not.

I don’t think it should be the Island kids and the Cali because there all black just because they have different nationality doesn’t mean that they’re different.I think that Vanessa shouldn’t have just snapped like that she should just ignore Crystal but I would do the same thing lol i get defensive over my nationality too because most of my family is West Indian and ppl be making fun of the Jamaican accent.

I can’t believe the producers of the show did not step in and try to put a stop to this before it escaladed to the point of no control! The moment arguing started to get out of hand someone from production should’ve come and put a stop to this!

At least on the Real World the production staff cares enough about the kid’s well-being to keep this type thing from happening. BET, on the other hand, was trying to catch every moment of it on tape! The moment ratings become more important than the safety of the participants on the show, you have a serious problem on your hands!

OMG I seen this yesterday and couldn’t believe this crap!!! Wow all I can say is stay tune..

# 428 I agree! he understood her real well when he wanted to sex her.

It dont matter if she ran up on Krystal and whooped her a^s nobody should put they hands on anyone for something that stupid over someone makeing comments about where you from and what they dont like about where you from that was stupid to me i mean tell the b*tch what you think about her a^s and move on dont put your hands on someone just because you feel what they said was disrespectful now i can see if Krystal was all in her face saying that sh*t but it didnt go that way Vanessa was wrong the fight was stupid why the fight happen we will never know who fault it is or who did what because the whole house got issues and Vanessa got her face jacked Krystal got ol girl though and Vanessa is wrong anyways because last week she made some threatin lyrics that was going towards Krystal and its sad that black people can’t get along i dont care if you from where ever its nothing but black people in that house and no one is better than anyone this was all a big mess and its not right at all.

I’m Soooooooooo Glad Krystal Clocked her ASS! And I can’t stand either one! Matter of fact none of their ass. Vanessa Pack your shit it’s a WRAP!

KRYSTAL WAS TALKIN BIG SHIT AND THEN WENT IN THE OTHER ROOM….VANESSA WENT AFTER HER ASS AND KRYSTAL HIT VANESSA IN THE FACE WITH A STILETTO….END OF STORY

please they were both kicking each others ass. they were going blow for blow and cristal was slept on by the whole house. they did not think she had it in her to bust a another bit## in the head. vanessa was in the confessional talking reckless. saying how nobody better not fu## with her. she wanted to fight. vanessa bum rushed cristal and she just went for what she knew. if a female ran up on me like that while i have a shoe in my hand she will get knocked in the head also. some of those island girls like to cut and i do not blame cristal for what she did. vanessa ran up like she had something. i do not condone violence but if you have to protect yourself, go for what you know. the one who threw the first blow should go home because vanessa ran down on cristal. vanessa could have walked off but she made a choice to fight once she ran down. i live in a small town and we all know you just do not do certain things or say certain things unless you are prepared to defend yourself. do not let you mouth write a check your behind can’t cash. do not rundown or raise your hands unless you are ready to do this. young people in a house is a recipe for disaster. specifically women. women hate on each other all day and all night. that is why i do not hang with anyone. i walk alone. i learned the hard way how catty women are.

Damn yall actin like yall never been in a fucking fight before! Since when did there have to be a good reason to whip somebody’s ass?
And how yall gettin mad at BET? The shit was entertaining that’s the point of the fucking show! Maaaaaan yall takin up for Vanessa it was a tie. She ran up on ol girl and was swinging like she was blind. So Crystal clocked her ass LMAO

@ TriniB gurl stop it you got me here dying with that swinging on vines comment, but you speaking the truth some people are just plain ignorant.

#374 I agree with you, people act like because were black we can’t get it on. Whatever, the island chick got her ass served to her, plain and simple. I really believe the animosity from West Indians and Native Africans towards black Americans are indicative of jealousy at the level of success black Americans have in comparison to West Indians and native Africans! The poorest black American lives like a king in comparison to West Indians and Africans!

Like I said earlier the producers of the show should have come in before it came to this and they need to send Krystal home because she really should have stayed out of the first argument in the first place. All of the dram started with her bringing her negative thoughts into the house.

#374 I agree with you, people act like because were black we can’t get it on. Whatever, the island chick got her ass served to her, plain and simple. I really believe the animosity from West Indians and Native Africans towards black Americans are indicative of jealousy, they’re jealous of the level of success black Americans have in comparison to West Indians and native Africans! The poorest black American lives like a king in comparison to West Indians and Africans!

#374 I agree with you, people act like because were black we can’t get it on or disagree. Whatever, the island chick got her ass served to her, plain and simple. I really believe the animosity from West Indians and Native Africans towards black Americans are indicative of jealousy, they’re jealous of the level of success black Americans have in comparison to West Indians and native Africans! The poorest black American lives like a king in comparison to West Indians and Africans!

#440 Send her home for what? Her being Cranky? Everybody on that fucking show is annoying so I don’t think Krystal should get sent home! Send Vanessa to the Island where her ass wanna be

#374 I agree with you, people act like because were black we can’t get it on or disagree. Whatever, the island chick got her ass served to her, plain and simple. I really believe the animosity from West Indians and Native Africans towards black Americans are indicative of jealousy, they’re jealous of the level of success black Americans have in comparison to West Indians and native Africans! The poorest black American lives like a king in comparison to West Indians and Africans! It was our own African people who facilitated the slave trade! And I believe “one” of the reasons Africa is in dire straits, is simply karma taking affect.

#374 I agree with you, people act like because were black we can’t get it on or disagree. Whatever, the island chick got her ass served to her, plain and simple. I really believe the animosity from West Indians and Native Africans towards black Americans are indicative of jealousy, they’re jealous of the level of success black Americans have in comparison to West Indians and native Africans! The poorest black American lives like a king in comparison to West Indians and Africans! It was our own African people who facilitated the slave trade! And I believe “one” of the reasons Africa is in dire straits, is simply karma taking affect. Although were all descendants of Africa, were are not of the same culture, West Indians and Native Africans choose to keep there culture to themselves, this is there prerogative. But don’t get upset and say we black Americans are the cause of your exclusion!

#374 I agree with you, people act like because were black we can’t get it on or disagree. Whatever, the island chick got her ass served to her, plain and simple. I really believe the animosity from West Indians and Native Africans towards black Americans are indicative of jealousy, they’re jealous of the level of success black Americans have in comparison to West Indians and native Africans! The poorest black American lives like a king in comparison to West Indians and Africans! It was our own African people who facilitated the slave trade! And I believe “one” of the reasons Africa is in dire straits, is simply karma taking affect. Although were all descendants of Africa, we are not of the same culture, West Indians and Native Africans choose to keep there culture to themselves, this is there prerogative. But don’t get upset and say we black Americans are the cause of your exclusion!

@WOODE29
ok what are you talking about. The person in 374 spoke about people taking on this negative attitude because of two people when in actuallity they shouldn’t be the deciding factor in how people feel about this issue. You took it to a whole nother level when you said that West Indians and Africans are jealous of African Americans. That is some bull shit if I ever heard it. I am from the west indies and agree we may not live in the best of conditions. But you can’t compare that to any of the success that they can achieve I happen to know that there is a large majority of foreign blacks in america that are very successful in the medical field and also in law. You are just as ignorant as those kids on the show. I am and will never be jealous of an African American . I’m biracial and proud of my culture and heritage. We are regardless all looked at as black becuase of our skin color. Nobody cares where the hell we are from whether it is africa, the west indies or the united states. As you know everybody has there own definition of living like a king. All that glitters isn’t gold.

LMAO at wood29>>>>your post went through the first time!!!

Krystal bytch ass deserved that!! She’s always talkin shyt!! She betta keep ha ass in Cali…cuz if i catch her..she’s gettin anotha beat down!!!!!

I agree with you 100%%% XQUIZIT_1