Stop Snitchin’ – Part 1
On Sunday, ’60 Minutes’ featured a report on how the hip-hop culture’s ‘Stop Snitchin’ campaign has played a huge role in the amount a unsolved murder cases in the country. One of the interviewees to speak with reporter Anderson Cooper was Cam’ron – who if you don’t remember, was shot at a nightclub in Washington D.C in 2005 and refused to cooperate with the police to find the shooter.
Cam’ron explained his reasoning for not snitchin’ was a violation of his ‘code of ethics’. This would also serve as a reason for others in Hip Hop and the Black community seeing as being a ‘snitch’ makes one look like a sell out, could damage their street cred, or they can possibly become another unsolved murder case.
Part 2
What do you all think about this report and ‘snitching’? Is it morally right to tell if you see a murder, or is it better to just mind your own business and protect yourself these days?
If this MAN CAM’RON doesn’t STFU! I am so tired of hearing him talk about the LOGISTICS of being a gangsta, when he walks around wearing PINK FUR COATS with matching CELL PHONES! Just…..Shut the HELL up!
That’s a stupid code to live by and I would understand if the no snitch code was only used to protect you and your families’ lives but Cam is only using it to protect his street credibility which is just plain stupid. On top of that Cam’ron is a wack rapper, “Purple Haze” was awful and “Wet Wipes” had to be tha worst song I’ve ever heard. I actually think what 50 did was good he did what he had to do and he helped the police do some justice and that makes Cam look even worse than he already looks. But Dipset and G-Unit are both wack versions of Wu-Tang and they need to stop all these gangsta mess when neither of them can put together a solid group album.
I heard about this IGNORANCE….He wasnt even aware of how bad he made black ppl look, not just hip hop artists…They knew who to pick to interview n he fell for the trap… Normally I would say that ”he doesnt represent all black ppl, thats just him” but this no snitchin foolishness has to stop! *Smh*
And yea, he should be the last person talking about bein ”Gangsta!”
ANOTHER REASON WHY BLACK AMERICA CONTINUES AND WILL CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE. WAKE THE HELL UP FOLKS! LETTING RAPPERS SET THE TONE FOR OUR PEOPLE IS NOTHING BUT GENERATIONAL SUICIDE. A PEOPLE WITH NO VISION HAVE NO FUTURE…MOVERS AND SHAKERS, PLEASE STAND THE HELL UP!
Im from Baltimore, where i think a lot of this stuff generated from and…everybody know in the hood, u keep ya fuckin mouth shut, if u wanna keep ya life. PERIOD! if sumthin happened that u witnessed. u say, “Sorry officer, i aint see shit!”. regardless, cuz if u snitch, n dem thugs find out u did, thas ya ass, n the cops aint gon do shit 2 help u either, after u damn near helped them solve their case!
This is total and complete foolishness. He would move and not report the serial killer ? They really know how to make us look bad on TV
i can go on about how white media lump hip hop into a sub genre. there are other rappers out there that don’t do any of this, but they are not promoted. i’m ready for a change. sick of the ignorant toms and shuffle jiving minstrels. i want my hip hop back.
camron, 50, and other jive crossovers days are numbered.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=s3XzCwdG0p4
I can understand if you witness a crime and choose not 2 “snitch” to protect yourself and your family! I come from an italian family and everything they have done hasn’t been completly honest it’s just the way i’ve been brought up 2 keep your mouth shut! But in some cases you should have to fess up as 2 what you witnessed! THERE IS NUTHIN WORSE THAN WATCHIN THE NEWS SEEING FAMILIES OF PEOPLE WHO WERE SHOT AND KILLED CRYING AND BEGGING SOMEBODY 2 COME FORWARD WITH INFO SO THAT THERE COULD BE SOME JUSTICE! So I think it depends on the situation thats just my opinion!
THOSE KIDS SOUNDED SO DAMN IGNORANT AND LOST..
*SMH* AT PARENTS LEAVIN IT UP TO “RAPPERS” 2 INSTILL MORALS IN THEIR CHILDREN!!!!
It’s this same code that is keeping the murderers of Biggie and 2Pac hidden from justice. And it’s sad. So you get shot in the ass but you won’t snitch cuz you don’t want to look like a punk?! And I thought the whole Cassidy robbing people was stupid. What a rapper won’t do for street cred.
i agree, we need a change. being like him, you aint gonna get no where in life.
But Cam’ron is def. an ASS!
I mean OBVIOUSLY if I were a parent & my child was killed I’d want someone to come forward no questions asked. Realistically… I can remember getting reprimanded for “tattle tailing ie: SNITCHIN”. It’s a two-way street b/c no one wants 2b labeled a snitch but where do you draw the line?
LMAO @ Cam’ 4 saying “Hello, how r u doing police” & HE KNOWS he lyin about that serial killer next door…cus I don’t know one person who wouldn’t call PoPo quick!
IF U DONT STAND FOR SOMETHING U CAN FALL FOR ANYTHING…
FOR NO MAN….ONLY GOD
AND THATS THE WAY I DO IT IN EAST ORANGE AND NEWARK EVERYDAY…..IF YOUR GOING TO HURT ME BC IM BRING WHAT U DID IN THE DARK TO LIGHT….DO SO..BC I WILL NTO SIT AROUND AND WATCH MY COMMUNITY BE TERROIZED BY A BUNCH OF IGNORANT PPLE.
IF UR MAN/WOMAN ENOUGH TO TAKE A LIFE OR COMMIT ANY CRIME OWN UP TO IT….A COWARD IS ONE WHO COMMITS AN ACT AND HIDES OUT AFTERWARD…
CAMRON….GO SOME WHERE AND PUT ON ANOTHER PINK VELOUR SUITE AND CHILL OUT LIKE THE PUSSY U R….
DANG SOME PPLE JUST MAKE A.AMERICANS HISTORY SEEM LIKE EVERYTHING WAS DONE IN VEIN
mannn 4get being street, get a fuggin education and get the hell out of poverty!
agree 100% KJOURNEY
Silly home videos don’t deter justice. Murders remain unsolved because the establishment doesn’t give two fucks about black lives.
White people consistenly playing stupid is getting really silly. Black Americans playing along is idiotic. Anderson Cooper can eat a dick.
@17 Totally agree!!!
@17…couldn’t of said it better myself~
Please listen to #5. They are speaking the honest truth. If these people who you snitch on find out it was you who said it, thats the start of your ending and the police who you helped will not do all in their power to protect you. Cam’ron’s code of don’t snitch or you lose street credibility is just plain dumb.
Beaten Cam’ron once had no problems cooperating with the fuzz
http://www.thesmokinggun....s/2007/0419072giles1.html
oooooooo fuck yall
I am from SouthCentral LA and they try that foolish here but that sh*t only works with the uninformed…no way i living my life with that sorta stuff on my mind…let me see a murder…I am quick runnin’ and tellin’. Just silly and Cam baby you just lost major cool points for that.
that Jeffrey Canada spoke so much sense. How come I’ve never heard of him before yet i can’t turn my tv/radio on without hearing Russell Simons/ Al Sharpton running their mouths on some ignorant ish. I’d like to see how the people on this blog who denied the responsibility of hip-hop for the objectifying of women, try and defend hip-hop now. These artists eg. Busta, Game & Cam’ron need to stop perpertrating such ignorance. But the problem the streets don’t understand is THEY ARE THE ONES WHO SUFFER FROM THE DON’T SNITCH POLICY, not these rappers who are loaded and come out to spit game but then run back to their gated beverly hills cribs. How much y’all wanna bet the minute a pussy like Cam’ron gets shot he will be running his girly ass mouth faster than Marion Jones. punk asses
i agree that some situations can be dealt with within the neighborhood because you cant just cross everybody with out running into some knuckles somewhere. but its the general distrust with law enforcement to hand out fair punishment that truly hinders cooperation.
you know that a black man convicted of killing another black man could quite possibly be seen on the streets again in less than ten. Now, if that same black man offs a man of “the european persuasion” we consider him lucky if he gets the possibility of parole.
but there is a line
and rape and muder are on the other side.
once again ignorance never ceases to amaze me! the community is only as powerful as the people. the real shame is when someone sees a murder, testifies, and is supposed to be in the witness program but comes up stanky. the police don’t give a damn and ur family is eating chicken and potatoe salad over ur body and the cops don’t give any funds to help bury your ass and then the murderer gets sentenced to 7 YEARS BUT ONLY SERVES 2! educate urself! so I guess u would be the ones to turn states witness on a drug conspiracy case and snitch yet you were the ones selling drugs for 12 years. the community should stand up don’t expect the police to protect or care in a murder case! as a group, snitch, not as one individual, protect the community as a whole and as it relates to the drug hustle, all u wanna be hustllers and rubber band men, stop snitchin ur a sell out u set up one man to get ur time suspended and he takes the weight for ur time and u prove nothing. then the white man suceeds lockin all u stupid asses up if u play the game be a real hustler, shut da fuck up and do ur 20 fed!
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#9 Shana203 I am w/you 100%!
I am so disgusted w/this foolishness. Granted, I am not from the “hood” and I didnt have to face the things that these kids (and adults) deal w/on a daily basis, but still……I just dont see how someone can witness someone else being murdered and not feel compelled to do or say something…..and I am not even talking about it being a civic duty….I am talking about from a moral standpoint, my mind and body both would be at such a state of un-rest. I just dont know…..this saddens me deeply….WOW, SMH indeed!
P.S. I am glad I do not live anywhere near Cam’ron….ignorant bastid!
P.S.S Even though I have never purchased any of “Killa” Cam’s music (nor will I ever)….If I were a fan…..I would no longer be after seeing this f*ckery…..he should have taken that factor into consideration before going on national TV sounding an a$$.
Was Camron the only rapper available…I mean for the sake of all black folks, dude needs to never say anything in a public forum.
Look i’m from the hood, and let me break down wat is i think. The whole not talking to the police was started in black communities in the recent past because it was a known fact the police were corrupt and racist. So of course you can’t trust them to uphold justice. The difference was, back then, groups like the black panthers and others policed there own neighborhoods and took care of their own. Over the last two decades, we stopped policing our neighborhoods, as drugs pretty much ravaged the hoods acrossed America. So when illegal activites became prevalent, and its a every man for himself grind, nobody cares about their neighbor, so why would we police our neighborhood. The problem is dat we kept the same distrust of the cops, and while it is warranted, it hurts us more than helps us. So if for example a serial killer does live next door to us, we don’t snitch to police, and we don’t take care of it ourselves, cuz remember we don’t care, so basically we have let criminals run our hoods and then we wonder why we can’t come up. There are no parameters put on the no snitching thing, if a guy is selling weed of course we don’t tell, but c’mon if a guy is just raping kids, does no snitching still apply. And in some hoods, you can can get local goons to handle situations like dat, but they won’t do it for nothing, so once again bleeding their own people. We hate when ppl say all black ppl are criminals, but when we do shit like dis, to the world, dat is exactly wat we look like. I’m a logical human being and i understand the game, and I think if we ain’t gonna ever trust the police, we need to implement our own police, and get some shit in the hood straightened out.
In England those who give infomation to the police are called ‘grasses’.
It’s all about the code of the street. As far as i’m concerned there’s to many young black kids being killed and this wall of silence is seriously preventing justice being done. If anything it adds to more violence. People who think they can stab or shot another and get away with it only go on doing it until they’re either stabbed or killed themselves. It’s just a never ending circle. And all it does is deplete the black race further.
If someone attemps to take or takes another life don’t hesitate to help the police capture the purpetrator.
Anyone one who thinks helping the police is not gangster is talking out of there arse.
It’s our duty to stop the violence!
30. datdude: Good Morning, you have raised a valid point. I wish the reporter would have asked Cam’ron this:
“So if a serial killer does live next door to you, you don’t snitch to police, but if you know for a fact that a guy on your street just raped a little girl, does no snitching still apply?”
I wonder how he would have answered that, because I know Cam has children.
……AND WHY ARE WE NOT FLOODING 60 MINUTES E-MAIL BOX ABOUT HOW THE BLACK COMMUNITY REAL FEESLS???? http://www.cbsnews.com/se.../60minutes/main3415.shtml
Well……………after watchin cam’ron make himself look like a complete ass sunday, I literally lost all respect for him. How u gonna say u wouldn’t rat a serial killer out if he lived next door to u?! I’m from Queens (and u know that ain’t no peaceful place) my older brother has that same mentality when it comes to the police for some reason. I’ve seen my best friend father get killed when I was 7, granted I think about that shit from time to time…………..still let some damn rapist or serial killer live around me I will b livin @ that police station till they fix that!!
Just something else to make black folks look even more stupid.
i’m from dc…and we was taught not to snitch..i don’t care what nobody think about my comments, but you don’t snitch. just mind your business and keep it moving. thats how people get killed now..snitchin..thats the worst thing in the world. you snitch if you want and watch what happens..
It’s killing the community. Hip hop didn’t start it but it promotes it now to the mainstream. Those kids’ parents, where are they? If those kids come from the streets, a lot of their parents are fucked up themselves (let’s face it, that’s why these kids need mentors like the man being interviewed) and probably live by the “no snitching” rule. I don’t understand how people can live by a rule without questionning it first, the girl is saying she does it “because that’s the rules”?? That’s not an answer. Tell me WHY you follow this rule, “just because” doesn’t count.
No, they should have asked Cam’ron “if your child was raped by someone and a witness didn’t want to cooperate with the police to find out who your child’s rapist is, would you be cool with that?”.
Busta Rhymes, I don’t understand him. How can you call yourself a friend and not testify for your friend? The man was married with 3 kids, trying to start doing the right thing and change his life. I’ve boycotted LIL KIM’s show, I just boycott BET anyway.
When will all of this end my people? We’re killing each other and on top of that, who’s getting most of this money? Who owns BET and Major Labels? People need to wake up.
i mean i understand when people say they cant snitch because thats your ass and if that person find out you might be on the street dead! but another thing is if you dont That could end up being more than just one life and busta ryhymes i dont give a fuck he was plain wrong and then to make that video yo it just plain uncalled for your ass didnt do shit when he did so why Df u care and tombout you love him.. And them songs that rapper make ii mean really take a look Nigga is in every damn sentence and killing is in everyfuckin thing they do being a black person im disguested by what the world has really turned into .. We need to BEDDA ourselves.. my teacher once told me “IF YOUR NOT PART OF THE SOLUTION UR PART OF THE PROBLEM” and i stand by that quote everyDAY of my LiFE
The hell? it’s not called snitchin’ when you are doing something that is right what kind’ve mess is that? It’s not like you’re catching someone stealing some candy out of a damn store were talking about murders here! These ppls families deserve answers about what happened to these ppl with unsolved murders damn the “street cred”
Agree, I dunno whats up with this “Stop Snitching” code, it’s not necessary, I bet if this code didn’t exist we would know about who shot biggie n tupac, and prolly the African Community will have no or less criminals!!
Camron is really fyckin stupid…not to mention inconsiderate! So you would let a fyckin serial killer live next door to you and instead of saving a life you would move? Now he is a heartless bastard…
The sad thing about it is the same people peaching that shyt have children…so are they teaching their kids those fycked up values?
I know there is a code to snitching and all that mess…but use your fyckin head. Not snitchin on a serial killer? Now thats some ignorant shyt…
I hope all the ignorant shit that came out of his mouth hurts “his business” more than snitching ever would. Hopefully the next time this bitch ass nigga gets shot he’ll learn his lesson.
Camron is stuck on stupid into believing what he said on air. He knows that if it was his brother or family member he would tell. This stop snitchin nonsense is just a cover up for our people.
He really made us look stupid and he needs a good ol fashioned whippin. He is not the person that should have spoke on that show.
This stop snitchin’ crap is for the birds. You’re telling me that if someone rapes me, or kills my brother, I’m just supposed to be like, “that was fucked up, but I ain’t telling”??? Ummm, I don’t think so. Stop snitchin?? How about stop doing shit wrong and then we wouldn’t have a problem.
*Shakes head* This is what is wrong with our community and why other people think they can do or say whatever the hell they want.
all valid comments…i dont live in the hood but i do know the game and there must definitly be a line when it comes to snitching
nobody on this earth is taking serious what black people say either so why the fuss? not even the lord could help them, and as we have just seen; they 4 sure can’t help themselves. may god be with ya’ll!
It’s sad that we continue to allow the voices of the village idiots to ring louder than the voices of the village intellects. Cam’ron and people like him are a total waste of space. They do nothing to make our community or world better. When you can rationalize not bringing to justice the murderer of someone you know, how can you continue to call yourself a man. How can you look your mother in the eyes? How can you look yourself in the mirror? I hope Cam’ron shamed his mother, by making the statement that this is how he was raised. The irony of claiming that snitching would negatively effect their record sales is laughable. They want the respect of murderers, drug dealers, thieves and rapist. Real gangstas and other delinquints don’t even go into record stores, and the certainly don’t buy their music off the internet. They buy their music bootleg….which hurts the rapper’s record sales. But who am I to question the logic of idiots?
IGNORANCE IS BLISS… LET’S NOT WALLOW IN IT!!!
This is a bunch of FOOLYWANG MATERIAL… IBEDAMNED if I’m going to get shot and know who did it but refuse to allow justice to be served… WHATEVER BOO!!!
Very ignorant. No wonder white people are laughing at us.
I really think that this is crazy! I understand the whole not snitchin thing but they are getting out of hand. Cam is talking about how snitchin would hurt his business and all this other stuff but last time I checked Cam ain’t shit and needs to stop wearing all that damn pink. CAM you are ignorant and everyone knows it now. You might as well have snitched because no one cares about you anymore.
If you don’t want to talk to the police about a crime that you witnessed then you don’t get to complain that the police aren’t doing anything. The police can only do so much on their own. They rely on the community to help them in certain cases…especially if there are witnesses. If they can’t catch a killer or drug dealer because of this stupid No Snitching code of ethics then oh well. I just don’t want to see anyone’s family complaining about the cops when it’s the people on the street who are preventing the cops from doing their jobs.
Not snitching to protect your street cred is indeed ignorant. However, if I saw something I probably wouldn’t tell it either, just because cops are so dirty, and all they do is tell the witness what they wanna hear in order to crack their case. Then they don’t give two sh*ts about the witness. Have you ever watched First 48? It’s a shame the way those cops exploit the witnesses, all for the sake of the case. They tell them they’ll protect them, blah blah blah, but how much are you really protecting them when they’re on national t.v., telling how this murder went down? If I know somebody from around the way, them having their face blurred out is not going to stop me from recognizing them by the rest of their body, and their voice. Cops are dirty, and a lot of them can’t be trusted. I sure wouldn’t put my life in their hands…………….
IF YOU THINK IMMA LET U BUST A CAP IN MY AZZ AND I DONT SAY NOTHIN CUZ OF STREET CRED, YOU A FOOL. “WHAT GOOD IS STREET CRED IF YOU DEAD”, MY NEW SONG. LOL. THESE FOOLS SO SOFT, WORRIED BOUT THEIR “GANGSTA” REP. YOU SO GANGSTA? THEN HUNT THAT BIATCH DOWN AND BUST A CAP IN THEY BEHIND AND SEE IF YOU DONT GET TOLD ON. DUMMIES.
#51 HAS A POINT AND TO ADD MY 2 CENTS..IF YOU DON’T WANT TO BE KNOWN AS A “SNITCH” I DO BELIEVE IN CERTAIN POLICE DPARTMENTS THEY HAVE A NUMBER YOU CAN CALL ANONYMOUSLY BECAUSE I HAVE HEARD OF INNOCENT PEOPLE KILLED AND NO ONE WANTED TO SNITCH BECAUSE OF WHO DID IT. LIVING IN FEAR.
WHY DON’T CAMERON JUST FESS UP, AND TELL THE REAL REASON HE DOESN’T “SNITCH”. HE’S SCARED AS F*CK. WHY? I DON’T KNOW. WITH ALL OF THE GUNS THAT RAPPERS/GANSTA RAPPERS SAY THEY HAVE, HE SHOULDN’T BE.
IT MAKES ME MAD BECAUSE ALL OF THE SH*T THAT THESE RAPPERS TALK ABOUT DOING IN THEIR LYRICS ARE ILL-CONTRIVED AND SO NOT TRUE. THAT FOOL AND THOSE KIDS ARE JUST SCARED.
This is why there are so many unresolved murders and other crimes in the black community. Our families deserve closure and arrests need to be made to catch these criminals. People are quick to bring up Tupac and Biggie’s unresolved murders, but don’t give much thought to the woman whose son was murdered, or the father whose child was hit by a stray bullet and no one knows or saw anything.
I’ve never been a Camron or Dipset fan, and his comments made him look extra ignorant and unfortunately other people will start to believe that all of us feel this way.
Let’s say your child was a victim of a hit and run and lay dead in the street. There was a group of people on the corner who saw the car and driver and approached you to tell you what they saw and when the police arrived they said nothing……HOW WOULD YOU FEEL?
MAD AS HELL…..thats how I felt when our apartment was broken into and a lot of our music, clothes and electronics were stolen in broad daylight one afternoon. We’re asking the people downstairs and across the hall if they saw anything, and a lady said she “heard someone up there, and saw someone dragging bags down the stairs and out the building”. When the cops got there she stood there looking fucking stupid and told them she didn’t see or hear anything. I hope she’ll never forget the look I gave her as my roomates and I stood there crying.
You might overlook someone who opens their car door and hits another car, but MURDER…..come on.
All I’m saying is think of the victims and stop protecting the criminals.
Our own ignorance will be the death of us!
See how 60 minutes just hand-picked the perfect igno-ghetto-rapper?
They knew their M.O. and found the dumbest kneegrow they could find to put that shit out there, as if his opinions are the general consensus of urban black folks.
When are we gonna realize the white media only serves to harm us?
what a dumb ass… this glorification of the ghetto mentality is the new slavery.
It’s a two-way street…and also a thin line. It’s easy to say you’ll do something, when you’re not in that predicament. I’ve personally seen incidents when “snitching” has gone wrong & those who told are not living today to tell another thing. Where I live, the cops don’t give two damns about you & your family.
I believe if law enforcement officials make themselves more trustworthy & do what they promise, then people will start stepping forward.