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“STOP SNITCHIN’ ” FEATURE ON 60 MINUTES

Tuesday, April 24, 2007


Stop Snitchin’ - Part 1

On Sunday, ‘60 Minutes’ featured a report on how the hip-hop culture’s ‘Stop Snitchin’ campaign has played a huge role in the amount a unsolved murder cases in the country. One of the interviewees to speak with reporter Anderson Cooper was Cam’ron - who if you don’t remember, was shot at a nightclub in Washington D.C in 2005 and refused to cooperate with the police to find the shooter.

Cam’ron explained his reasoning for not snitchin’ was a violation of his ‘code of ethics’. This would also serve as a reason for others in Hip Hop and the Black community seeing as being a ’snitch’ makes one look like a sell out, could damage their street cred, or they can possibly become another unsolved murder case.



Part 2

What do you all think about this report and ’snitching’? Is it morally right to tell if you see a murder, or is it better to just mind your own business and protect yourself these days?

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76.

j

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

This snitch is going to be the death of us…slavery didn’t kill us, but stupid stuff like this will.

77.

CamDon

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

This is just EVIL…..the devil must be so proud.

78.

Chanté

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

@ 74. BAM BAM, Drop the knowlegde!! You betta tell dem!

79.

TT

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

#1 Jannaa - Pink fur coats with matching cell phones?!?!? Thanks for the early morning laugh. I needed it!

80.

Msting

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

ummm very ignorant … call me what ya want i see any of my kinfolk or peeps get gunned down im talking period!!!

81.

1finedyme

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

Unless we’ve been in that situation I think it’s easy for us to say it’s stupid but for someone who lives in that type of environment it’s not so easy. We need to realize that every person isn’t as strong and we feel they should be so things that we think is common sense to us may not be common sense to them. It would be nice if everyone had the attitude that they’re going to stand up for justice and what’s right but if you have someone who’s genuinely afraid of what could happen to them or their family what do you do? I can only say what I think I’d do in that situation because I haven’t lived it. If you saw someone get killed and you knew for a fact if you went to the police that they would come after you and your family what would you do? Especially if your family was begging you not to say anything because they knew everyone’s life was on the line would you still go to the police and face the consequences? It’s hard watching a family go through something like that but when you realize it could be you next what do you do? Your whole family could be killed beccause of something you said because in the end you are the one that has to live with the decision you made. Is it easier for you to live with knowing you helped solve a murder and gave someone’s family peace of mind or is it easier knowing that you could’ve possibly saved your whole family’s life by not saying anything?

82.

SPICY SEAFOOD GUMBO

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

@ # 47 – I agree with you completely. I only saw snippets of this show, but I was completely baffled that rappers condoned this “no snitchin” policy. And the timing was impeccable! They aired this mess about the “code of the streets” amidst all of the other scrutiny hip-hop is taking because of the Imus incident. Hip-hop is under attack! And because of this interview, Camron & Busta have truly proven what morons are in this industry. THIS is why hip-hop is viewed so negatively! Rappers promote violence and when given the opportunity to voice their point of view so that perhaps they can be seen in a positive light, these geniuses go on National Television to now say, “F*CK the pigs! Stop snitchin’ so they can’t solve these murders in our black communities!”
Last month I witnessed an armed robbery. My boyfriend and I were in his car and the robbery happened on a street corner in Los Angeles. These two black guys robbed this defenseless pedestrian who was Hispanic. I couldn’t believe that they just walked up on him and straight jacked him by gunpoint. They took the guys wallet and cell phone and then they let him go. I could not believe what I had just witnessed! My boyfriend saw it too, but he REFUSED to call the police. I wanted him to pull over so that I could use the phone and call the cops, but HE also believes in this “no snitchin” crap. He told me I was not getting involved because that was none of my business. He also said that he didn’t want me to testify against the perpetrators, so why even call the cops? I was so angry with him, I asked him to pull over so that I could collect my thoughts and calm down. I wanted to call the cops so badly and report the crime because something similar happened to my brother. He was robbed and beaten by 10 guys and there were witnesses but no one SAID ANYTHING! People actually watched as he was brutally beaten. I mean, even if you didn’t want to get involved, you could simply call the cops so that they could get to the scene of the crime.
Bottom line is there is a fine line to being a snitch. Of course, no one tattles when you see someone stealing out of a store, but when it comes to MURDER, why be silent? For all of you on this blog who think that being cooperative with the cops is unacceptable, what would happen if your mother was murdered? You would be the first person RUNNING to the TV stations to record your plea for someone to come forward to help the cops with their investigation for the murder of your mother, or wife, or sister, or brother, or child! Since when does assisting the cops with an unsolved murder “not cool”? Some people on this post have mentioned fear of retaliation from the person who was caught because of a snitcher. I think those instances are very few. Truth be told, there are far more murders that are solved by witnesses who had NO retaliatory action taken against them for cooperating with the cops. Most witnesses for homicide cases are never murdered or even attacked for testifying against the culprit. Once people really see the ratio, I think that can change the community’s perception of people being seriously hurt or executed because they were “snitches”.

83.

Strong black woman

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

This is some bullshi*t. As a black female i am sad. Everyone has something to say when someone makes an ignorant comment, whether it be Camron or Don Imus. Everything we have we fought for has come from someone taking action, change does not come by sittin on ur ass, if u have a problem black people, stick together, sand for what u believe in. Every other culture knows how to stick together. Frederick Douglass Harriet Tubman and Martin Luther King Jr. didnt accomplish great things for us by watching YOU TUBE and giving their opinion, they took action they stood for what they believed in and did what they had to do, which meant SACRAFICING their life for what they felt was right. And thats all I have to say.

84.

Paris Hilton's Valtrex

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

You know the rules dont testify! If you don’t you live, if you do you die!

85.

BK

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

It honestly warms my heart to read some of your posts here. Reading some of these responses lets me know that all hope is not lost for the future of Black America. It is just time for people with real morals and real codes of ethics to stand up and be the leaders that we are meant to be. The first thing I thought of when I read this was exactly what # 10. TaTa said:

“It’s this same code that is keeping the murderers of Biggie and 2Pac hidden from justice. And it’s sad….”

Cam’ron has solidified what I already knew about him. He’s ignorant, and sadly, it is the loud, ignorant, thoughtless person that is often heard and seen first. We MUST end this kind of thinking in our community, or we will never advance.

86.

BAM BAM

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

AND THE MEDIA DOES EXPLOIT OUR WEAKNESSES! But that’s par for the course, y’all - they are in place to exploit and get ratings. It only looks worse for us because we’re a real easy target:

We love to call each other n*gga, but hate when othet races do. (Make any damn sense?)

We’re proud that we protect perps in our hoods (make any damn sense?)

We let our children watch R rated movies and watch what can only be described as soft porn on so-called teen show 106th and Park. (Make any damn sense?)

BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, AL RANTS ASIDE, I WOULDN’T WANT TO BE ANY OTHER COLOR BECAUSE FOR ALL THAT WE’VE GONE THROUGH, WE’RE THE STRONGEST IN SPIRIT, TOUGHEST OF SKIN, WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED SOME OF THE SMARTEST PEOPLE ON EARTH BECAUSE WE SURVIVED THIS FUKIN LONG, AND THE COOLEST CREATURES TO WALK THIS PLANET (BUT U KNEW THAT). THE CHOK’LIT IS INDEED BEAUTIFUL.

NOW LET’S FIX THIS SHYT!

87.

BAM BAM

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

@ 75 & 78.

Thanks for the props.

88.

uptowngirl

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

@57 Toi, well said. Simple and to the point. Black people wake the fuck up!! And those poor babies in the video are so lost.

89.

crys

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

this is ridiculous of all the people to choose for an interview, they pick this fool. setting us back.

90.

Something Fierce

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

Thugs, Gang-bangers and Wanna-Be-Thugs/Criminals EXPLOUT the Waek and the Weak-minded… Especially among our Black society/community

I moved back in the hood because my family was being over-taken by these type of individuals in their community… The very FIRST thing I did was go to the Crack Houses and the Drug-dealers on my family’s block and TOLD them what would happen to them if anybody within my family was harmed in any way bacuase of their lawlessness… and TRUST ME I wasn’t in the least bit worried about what they was going to do to me!!!

Sure enough they thought I was just talking and some of them broke into one of my neighbors garage…
That next day WE (me and my boyz that grew up together in the hood) BUST some heads, Burned some cars and Shot up some crack houses… Guess What, THESE same assholes went to the cops!!!

The cops lauhged in their face and these CLOWNS got the fuck on with their life to another area FAR AWAY from us!!!
The moral to this story is…

If YOU Don’t STAND-UP for Yourself, NOBODY ELSE WILL

91.

BK

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

74. BAM BAM said:

I think we’ve fallen into a state of complacency when it comes to fighting the good fight. Now that fight is not only with “THE SYSTEM”, it’s also within our own infrastructure. We gotta clean up our own shyt and check our inventory. You can be sure that white people do.
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Everytime I get in a discussion about the current state of Black America, this is the one point that I make! COMPLACENCY will be the death of us. The fight that we used to have in us had died down. Just because we aren’t getting sprayed in the streets with water hoses and because we are allowed to eat inside the same restaurant, attend the same schools and drink from the same water fountains, we think that there’s nothing to fight for. We are so comfortable in the facade of equality that we have been given, that we’ve lost our drive to want better and to seek better. When in fact, true equality has yet to be reached. We’ve got a long way to go. Since the Civil Rights movement of the ’60s, we’ve gotten sidetracked in our new found freedom and equality, and instead of continuing to fight the system, we’ve become involved in the in-fighting of drugs and gang violence. We’ve diverted our attention from the true goal, and money and material things have become all that matter. People fought and died for rights that should have been there’s merely because they existed, and now we kill each other, and think that it’s not our problem? We have some SERIOUS work to do!!!

92.

mocha427

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

I hope we all see how 60 minutes made it seem that……….our culture is the reason the police don’t get help or can’t find murders!! Lets not forget people haven’t been talking to the cops since before the Cocaine Cowboys…era…..When moonshine, herbs and dust was in full play….and we where too broke to get our hands on it….Cam’ Ron sat on that seat to speak for us as a community/culture like he is some detrimental figure in Hip-hop…he isn’t no Russell, nor a Puffy, JD, LL cool J, Dre, Snoop…etc…. I would haven’t wanted to see how they feel about the situation….60 minutes took this clown who I used to respect to come on national TV and basically say..If he knew that the Virginia Tech Massacre was going to happen he would simply protect himself and those close to him and move…..later on brag that he didn’t snitch….record sales!!!!

93.

Mahogany

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

People act like the “code of silence” or “stop snitchin” started in/with hip-hop and/or the black communities. And for some reason unbeknownst to me, people completely disregard the fact that the police, politicians and government officials all practice this and that in-lies the real problem. Don’t be mad at me for not wanting to help the police. In my experience they have never helped me or my family. If nothing else, please stop saying all of this started in the “hood”. Yall calling Cam ignorant when it appears that none of you have done any research at all. I’d never assume the police are here to help unfortunately. I’d much rather have a group of my own people patrol my neighborhood to keep me safe.

94.

CARAMEL 2

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

Wow!!!! Bam Bam you done said it now.

Everything that you said is to a science and trust I know exactly what u mean. I have always said it to my sis’s and our bro’s that we are our own worst enemies. Until we rise up and be happy for one another whatever our accomplishes are we will not be able to get out of this struggle.
Whether it is people like Camron or other ignorant people going on tv, radio and other venues saying how
it is not good to snitch or cooperate let something happen to them and see how they deal.

Everyone knows that po po likes for us to snitch and then take the credit. If we stop doing things to each other to cause this we wouldn’t have to worry so much.

95.

BAM BAM

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

SOMETIMES YOU GAT-TA BLOW IT UP, TO BUILD IT BACK UP!

96.

elle

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

I have question:

Since when is Camroon the speaker for hip-hop or the streets for that matter?

Didn’t he sqeak like a pig in the early nineties at a shoot out he was involved in, in Harlem ?

Out of allllllllllllllll the hip-hop artist that have been around, how does this jacka$$ get a podium on 60 minutes?

Maybe it was the best thing that could happen because we need to see the ignorance that is poisoning our children and our communities.

97.

foxxy380

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

I agree totally with #60 Complexndope.

I have seen some accounts when people’s head got bust to the white meat for snitching. Where was the police? Probably at the local Krispy Kreme dunking donuts or sleep in their car while they are supposed to be on patrol. What people don’t understand is most cops don’t like snitches either. I know a couple of people who snitched just to make a deal with the cops and in the end, the cops did them worse then the ones they snitched on.

See no evil. Hear no evil.

98.

Cee

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

Cam’Ron is stupid. He’s choosing to live a life that he doesn’t have to. I question whether he knows what it feels like to know someone that has been senselessly murdered? Particularly, an innocent victim. How about being a responsbile citizen for the black community? No wonder why they call us “nappy headed hoes” in public, we don’t have any pride or respect for ourselves and our own community, why should they.

99.

Diva_Style

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

81… I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE KNOWING THAT A MURDERER IS OFF THE STREETS. THERE IS SUCH THING AS STAYING ANNOMYNUS (SPELLING) COPS CANT FORCE YOU TO STATE YOUR NAME.

100.

Moni in Cali

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

That ignant mo-fo Camron epitomizes why other people think all Black people are niggas. Because this fool is on 60 minutes acting like one.

101.

BAM BAM

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

@ CARAMEL 2

It’s strange that for all the strengths we have have, it’s our weaknesses that are at the forefront right now. But that’s a temporary thing. I can sense a wave of change coming in the wake of this issue, the Don Imus Affair, Paul Mooney’s movement to ban the n word, and Russell Simmons’s announcement that calls for a ban on the words “n*gga”, “ho”, and “bitch” in the arts. As for “bitch”, I think a clearer referendum would be on HOW that word is used in the arts, and not an outright ban. That’s the only word that can used in more than one way.

I’m not for censorship, but I am all for public responsibility.

And what really bothers me is the almost total silence in our community on the travesty that was Hurricane Katrina. PLEASE RENT WHEN THE LEVEES BROKE AND WATCH ALL 3 DISCS. I PROMISE IT’LL START A RIGHTEOUS FIRE IN YOUR SOUL THAT WON’T SOON GO OUT.

102.

natural Mystic

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

#96 Elle said:
“Maybe it was the best thing that could happen because we need to see the ignorance that is poisoning our children and our communities.”
—–
I agree– this mess, the racist/sexist Don Anus incident and other recent events seem to be forming some type of change, hopefully for the better.
I truly wish today’s music was as great as the days when I was growing up. Whatever happened to artists like Teddy Pendergrass, Roberta, Luther, Donny, the Isley Brothers.

Just yesterday as I escorted my little one to school at 8 am, we passed 4 young Black men in 4 separate crowds, to whom ALL used the N word– without an ounce of discretion or embarassment!!

The ignorance is too prevalent in too many urban Black communities–it’s a plague and fools like Camron are the symptom.
Calgon, take me away!

103.

babyboss

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

if dat snitchin code is still enforce, think of how many murderers walkin the street freely..and the ones in jail had no justice

104.

youngnflyy

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

This is a complete and utter load of “coonery”. I can understand not “snitching” on a friend or relative who may be selling marijuana because he has no other way of feeding himself or his family, but there is no excuse for watching someone die in front of you and not pursuing justice. What bothers me more than anything is that people will watch this, and thnk that my values are the same as Camron’s because we’re both african american. I’ve yet to see any positive effect via rappers on my life.

105.

BAM BAM

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

@ 93 MOHAGANY

Damn, that’s where I get the most frustrated, because you’re right as well! But how do we effectively get rid of the threat in our own backyard? It’s that ol Catch-22 I was talking about .

Perhaps it’s your way or my way..

or #91 BLK’ s way

or #90 SOMETHING FIERCE’s way

or #97 FOXXY380’s way

all of whom’s opinion’s hit me deep.

This is clearly a very complex issue with no clear cut answer, because we all make good points. But I do believe that the answer lies with open dialogue and a clear and concise exchange of ideas and opinions such as the case in this thread.

106.

BAM BAM

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

LMAO @ #102 NATURAL_MYSTIC!

107.

misslady

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

I actually seen that 60 minutes and Cam’ron looked like a fool. The reason why he doesn’t want to tell is because he still wants to be “down” with the crew. Maybe he also wants to be in the club with 50 cent because he got shot now. I believe if you see something wrong then it should be reported not only it would save your life but it might save someone elses. Remember people we still don’t know who killed Biggie and Tupac over this dumb rule.

108.

Bren

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

I hate the fact that the Black people the media really listens to are the ignorant ones without education, who can’t even speak properly. Thats where all those preconcieved notions about Blacks come from, them..the hip hop community. The Blacks that are really saying something get no shine. Cam’Ron is just as dumb as his name is spelled. I bet if someone killed his momma in his face you couldn’t pay his bitch ass to shut up.

109.

complexndope

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

Also wanted to add. Stop Snitching isn’t only a problem in the black communities…it’s a problem in ALL communities.

The only difference is…the rap world & the black community is making money off of the code.

110.

CARAMEL 2

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

I also feel that by him talking to the masses is just allowing them to take a closer look at our communities and harrassing us even more. You have to be very careful of what comes out your mouth.
When you wonder why a lot of po po’s are in our communities more and harrassing our people?
When you wonder why you are getting pulled over for no reason why these things are happening.

THIS IS BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE SHOULD NOT RUN THEIR MOUTH. YOU ARE GIVING THE MASSES A REASON TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT WHY WE DO THE THINGS WE DO. STOP DOING THINGS TO CAUSE UNNECESSARY ATTENTION TO OURSELVES.

111.

Ne'

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

” I NEED A PHANTOM AND A CRIB IN BEVERLY HILLS PAID FOR. Then I will tell you who shot ron ron and ‘em”

112.

Janey

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

The stop snitchin is ridiculous i mean if u see someone being murdered why not help the police get that person of the streets and make ur neighborhood a little more safe one less murder u have to worrry about. im from the bronx ery bodii i no3 is with that snitchin shit and understand if there is some u neeed to protect but they are not protecting any but some false sense of power which is absurd. I no3 to many people who have been murdered and there cases has gone cold because no witness wants to testify to things they may have seeen.

113.

BAM BAM

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

@ CARAMEL 2

You are so right! It’s a good thing that other black educator was there to toss some righteous fuel in the fire!

Afterwards, I kinda got worried about him and wondered if he was getting any hate mail or death threats for speaking his mind against snitching, tho’……….

114.

bertabean

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

i was listening to the radio this morning and someone made a valid point, cops just want to solve a case, they want you to snitch but they provide no protection if something happens to you. they solve one crime only to have to deal with another, if something happens to you becasue of your snitching. the police should provide better protection and stop lying ‘ dude told on you so you need to tell on him’ trying to set you up.

115.

BigSingh

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

First of all, I applaud 60 MINUTES for doing something like this. You have to look PAST the white vs. black thing for a moment and look at the BIGGER picture.

BET which is suppopsed to be a representative of us in the community MISSED OUT on helping to set the shit straight. They had an opportunity to celebrate the 30th anniversary of Hip-Hop; they chose not to - VH1 picked up the show. They had an opportunity to show we blacks CREATED country - but they dropped the ball again - CMT did it. But yet, they can do a “reality” series about Li’l Kim before she goes to the slammer because she wouldn’t reveal her accomplices.

And yet, after reading the comments on this board, I wonder where most of you stand. There was a crime committed in Sacramento where I might have seen who did it because they were in my area when I was at the convenience store picking up a little food for an all-night writing session. I was interviewed by the local news media when I found out that the crime ACTUALLY happened, and I told the reporter I might have witness the killers before they did it. I went to the police and they are investigating leads and have made one arrest.

Am I afraid of them coming after me? No. Because I have been living in my area long before these wanna-be thugsters started migrating in my neighborhood. If they wanted to get me, they would have got me by now. We can complain about rappers telling about us not to snitch and don’t do anything when the crime is committed, and the report brought home one big point why most of us don’t tell the police: they’ve been using holding tactics like the kind they used for the War on Drugs.

BET has NOT DONE any reporting on situations like this. This isn’t a case about white media being scared of rap…this points out that WE AS A PEOPLE ARE because WE LET IT GET OUT OF CONTROL. We got offended when Don Imus called the Rutgers Women’s Basketball Team “nappy headed hos” but didn’t say crap for 20 years when he was offending everybody or even when hip-hop was demeaning women, particularly Black women. We got upset over Michael Richard’s use of the “N-word” but haven’t don’t anything to educate people about the true meaning of the word.

We can bitch, gripe and moan about the white media when they take on black terms/lexicons, but we do nothing when they point it out to us. Unless we as a people stand up and take our neighborhoods back, then we’ve fallen victim to the rappers who do this “stop snitchin’” crap. Because Cam’Ron’s attack on 50Cent cooperating with the police is bullshit because he chose not to for his ’street cred’. Because Busta Rhymes said nothin’ about his bodyguard being gunned down is bullshit because he wanted to protect his ’street cred’. People it goes FAR BEYOND street cred, we’re the only people killing ourselves or getting killed over dumb shit.

116.

BAM BAM

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

NOW THAT MAN WAS TRULY BRAVE FOR SPEAKING OUT IN A NATIONAL FORUM. FOR ALL OF SPEAKING OUT OUT I’VE DONE HERE FROM BEHIND MY KEYBOARD, I ASK MYSELF WOULD I HAVE STEPPED UP TO THE RISK AND SPOKE MY MIND SO FREELY ON NATIONAL TELEVISION ON SUCH A PROVOCATIVE SUBJECT………..?

SO LET’S PLEASE GIVE HIM PROPS (SORRY FOR NOT REMEMBERING HIS NAME)

117.

cuvagurl08

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

this is absolutely ridiculous. its a shame we do this to ourselves. i hope more people begin to use common sense and start to think for themselves. countless crimes will continue to happen unless more people begin to do better, think for themselves, and consider how their actions effect their community.

118.

jscene

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

I dont necessarily agree that you should report every crime you witness to the police. Sorry, but some people live in neighborhoods where there is virtually no police protection, and to report a crime to the police is to give your life for the one murdered, cause when its found out you told, there are serious reprocussions.

But on the other hand, i think this has snowballed into what we have today; so many unsolved murders, rapes, assaults, robberies, and home invasions in our communities that will never result in justice.

The police on the other hand has very much contributed to this problem. Can’t blame it all on rap and hip hop. The police have never really protected blacks, hispanics, and lower income areas as they do where the rich and middle class live. They could careless about the poor and whether or not they get justice. They dont even put the energy in to solving the murder, and depend solely on someone coming forward, and instead of doing real police work, if someone dont come forward, they use this as an excuse to toss the case in the garbage. And everybody knows that there are alot of corrupt police officers, and when you are reporting a damn crime, you never know which type of officer you are talking to. So many officers are in these drug dealers pockets while you are calling to report there is a crack house across the street from you. It’s just a catch 22, damn if you do, and damn if you dont.

I just hate that the media is trying to make this a hip hop/ rap phenomen issue, and it’s more of a officer/law enforcement and community relationship issue. Throughout the years, criminal justice system has mistreated the inner-city urban population, and yet they want the trust of the same people. Well that trust has to be rebuilt, and until then, with no police protection, no one is going to be reporting anything.

119.

ash

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

Caramel 2, i agree completley! i’m so tired of us complaining that we are recieving unfair treatment and harassment… i mean, obviously, we have, we’re a strong people (civil rights proved that.. ..coming over here on the boat proved it!). but at the same time, in our generation.. we are causing it. its a catch 22, they keep promoting this stupid “invincible, F&*& the police and everyone else, i’m gonna get mine,money hungry “image,and then when these rappers get called out on it.. they’re quick to scream “not fair” ! Cam is an idiot, i cant say i understand this code of no snitchin, i grew up in the ‘burbs,and i still dont really trust or care much for the police(they are crooked) so i wont act like i know what it means. BUT i do know this is only hurting our future generation.. i mean our generation of grown folks is pretty much set in our ways ( you can change.. but you have to want to) but that makes it even more Cruical for us to teach the young ones, instead of letting them grow up on the words of rappers like Cam who will be gone next year, (broke probably) our young black kids will still be hanging on his every word. We need to wake up yall! We are the most influential group of people,what we say is cool,goes in the history books, so why dont we put it to good use!?! yea “snitcin” may go on in other communities, but it seems we are the only ones that get caught up in this mess as a way of life, while other races grow out of it,and become lawyers and doctors,our kids are busy barely getting by and being killed, living by the “stop snitchin” code and by these rappers lyrics… who dont probably care anything about them.

why did it take something like 60 mintues for someone as wise as Mr. Canada to get any recognition,someone who is actually saying something with substance!!

120.

queshia

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

Camron is dumb it seems like a few bullets would have changed his mind.
I teach my child to tell me everything we have no secrets. In some situations Telling it, snitching, tattling whatever you call it is necessary.

121.

DEO

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

damnedit, Cam! that was the most ignorant crap you could have came out of your mouth with. Why did they even pick you to interview? You know the whole don’t snitch thing orgininated from black people who were trying to evade oppression. People escaping from slavery. People teaching others or learning to read. People running voter registration centers. People trying to avoid violent racist “police” those “overseers” of the civil rights era. It had nothing to do w/ perpetuating criminal activity in our neighborhoods, YOU INGONRANT S.O.B.! That’s the dumbest shyt ever. And how dare you Cam how dare you have the audacity to go on 60 MINUTES in character - you jerk! Why don’t these rappers come up outta their f’d up alter egos sometimes. Boi - you ain’t Killa Cam! You’re Cameron Giles. You don’t see Halle Berry walking around everywhere trying to pretend she’s Storm from x-men. going on news programs w/ a white wig on. Get a life - a real one. All these rappers - why are we as a people behaving as if Snoop Dogg is anything more than a character that Calvin Broadus plays on TV. The same for .50, and Busta etc, etc, etc. Grow up. These dudes wouldn’t have ANYTHING if they were really like the characters they play. They are as real a cartoon characters. How do you think these dudes live everyday. Feeding their kids, getting them ready for bed and school, being in relationships, fycking paying the electric bill and making sure it’s groceries in the house. Gotdamned people! get a grip. Get off this “no snitching” bull shyt!

@ OL’SCHOOLER - you’re right. It’s a bytch that turns his boy in to get time off his sentence. But what has that got to do w/ a murder? A f’ing serial killer next door? NOTHING. I’d like to crush my fist in Cam’s jaw. And I bet he’d tell that ish in a hurry - and I’m a girl.

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samantha

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

Camron is so ignorant

123.

BAM BAM

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

@ 111 NE’

You done killed ME with that one!

124.

GetMoney88

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

Fuck street cred, if somebody shot yo momma wouldn’t u want to see justice served?!

125.

i.trustless

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

This is some lame nonsense.
Someone is after your life, but you woudl rather have the gangsta respect that find the criminal. What kind of code of rules is that? its ignorance, and idiotic choices.
Cam’ron, i have always disliked him and his music, he is so odd to me personally. he and his gangsta attitude need to go someplace. because it is beyond pathetic.

126.

Ne'

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

I know ya’ll have seen first 48 on A&E
There is no protection for witnesses. TheY blur your face BUT they show your clothes and your voice. Like no one in the hood knows you are the only one who has that “RIP ray ray” Shirt. Smh

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1finedyme

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

LMAO @ 111

128.

BAM BAM

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

@ NE’

I’d like to think that this falls under a whole new realm of stupidity like the “I’d Do Some Real Stupid Shit For Reality TV, Az Longs Az Y’all Givez Me My Fee” file, but somehow, I fear you’re right.

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Ne'

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

lol bam bam
Im just saying they (the police) dont protect you. If the poilce cant use my statement over the phone and totally protect me then I CANT DO IT. There are ways for them to protect witnesses you just have to be serious about your protection. I just pray that I dont have to witness a murder, a car accident even… I already be late to work.

130.

Shag

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

Black people, we are in a fast descent into hell, and there is no end in site. He’s a effing fool.

131.

BAM BAM

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

I feel you. This ain’t an easy one.

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Michelle

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

Whomever referred to Cam Dumb and his ilk as ‘village idiots’ …well done! Couldn’t have put it better myself. Also, I’d like to see this ‘don’t snitch’ motto put into practice when he’s on the receiving end of a crime. Moronic! I understand the whole ‘didn’t have no daddy to teach me how to be man’ But, how can you get it SO wrong? How can you?

133.

mr bryant

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

cam really showed how stupid he really is!What if the serial killer killed someone he knew,after he moves.BTW doesnt he lokk like Chancs?

134.

Chanté

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

@ Natural Mystic, Elle and BigSingh, great points. The bigger picture. At this point, the Imus situation, Oprah discussion, Kramer, now this, all of this exposed to the public, it doesn’t matter much to me as long as it opens up the eyes of those who still don’t understand that WE HAVE A PROBLEM.

Stop saying “yes but we’re not the only ones doing this” F*CK THAT! If an obese person wanna lose weight to be healthy but keeps comparing himself to other fat people and saying “well I’m not the only one” he will NOT solve his problem, and will end up having tons of health problems and die too soon!

We are a wounded people, we need to heal ourselves NOW!!! We can’t afford STAY that messed up if we want the power and place we deserve. We need to be more responsible, we need to face our weaknesses and issues and work on them.

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BAM BAM

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

@ NE’

I feel you. This ain’t an easy one.

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natural Mystic

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

Right on, Chante’, perfect analogy!
Like someone said in an earlier post, it’s great to hear there’s hope alive through some of the voices on this blog.

137.

Geminat

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

let the countdown begin…..someone will be killed over this nonsense

138.

sweetgurl

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

SIMPLE PEOPLE WHY DONT U DO IT anonymously. Who gonna know?

139.

1finedyme

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

@NE’

I’VE WONDERED THAT TOO. ONE GUY THEY SAID WAS A FORMER BANGER AND GOT OUT OF PRISON AND WAS TRYING TO HELP THE COMMUNITY AND HE WAS A LITTLE ON THE HEAVY SIDE AND THEY BLACKED HIS FACE OUT LIKE KNOW ONE COULD RECOGNIZE THAT SHAPE!!! THEN THEY SHOW THEM IN THE POLICE STATION CRYING AND TELLING EVERYTHING AND I’M THINKING YEAH THIS MAY HAVE BEEN FILMED A YEAR AGO BUT G-ROC JUST FOUND OUT WHO SNITCHED ON HIM!!!!!!

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Ne'

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

1finedyme
lmaoo thats sooo funny. But its true. You could hear his voice and see his rings, tattoos etc.

141.

lalita

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

Thats so sad . Im sick of all these fake ass rappers and there fucking greed for money and they will do anything to get/keep it . Even when they know it down right wrong .

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Imoni

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

ummm i dont know how to feel about this…

143.

cdnyc

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

Maybe we should stop calling it “snitching” and do like white people and call it “whistleblowing”. Maybe then black people would feel better about it. I don’t know.

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1finedyme

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

@ NE’

SGT. COOPER AND ROME NEED TO TAKE SOME TIPS FROM CAROLINE MASON (THE CHICK IN MEMPHIS) SHE MAKES SURE SHE’S CLEAN EVERY TIME THEY SHOW MEMPHIS. SHE MAKES SURE SHE’S REPPIN THE SISTERS RIGHT! WHEREAS THE ONES IN FLORIDA….WELL I’M SURE YOU’VE SEEN FOR YOURSELF!

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Radha

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

@ #24 Lashonda…..good question about why Sharpton is always on the tube and not a Mr Cananda who I have known since i was a teen. Dr. Julia Hare of the Black Think Tank BROKE IT DOWN at the State of Black America. Around 6:10 she talks about the difference between Black Leaders and Leading Blacks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq2kJ56hSqo

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complexndope

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

LOL.
That wasn’t my point of saying that Chante.
Not all of us stay in predominantly black communities. (though I do).

Bullets have no eyes, therefore they know no color. Whites & every other race are keeping killers in the streets, too..because of this same code. These are the same streets we walk on too.

So the key is pulling together AS A WHOLE. It starts with cops…THEY are the reason why people are scared to open their mouths. They do a suck ass job of protecting people.

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CARAMEL 2

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

@115 BigSingh

You are indeed a remarkable person. Understand that everyone cannot do what you did because of the violence that can come out of retaliation for going to the police for reporting a crime. Sometimes things can be taken out of context in what you say to the news or the media.
However I think that if you are going to have one of our people represent us on a forum that it is someone that is credible to speak for our people. Why couldn’t 60 minutes ask Chuck D or KRS1 to appear?
You know why? Because they would’ve broke it down and made them look ridiculious. Understand all of this is happening because this ignorant racist is coming out and saying he said what he said because of the rappers. Why are we allowing this. Yes we should change the way we are portrayed and the lyrics in our music but don’t get it twisted. They are making it seem like it should be ok because we say these things. Wise up people and see the bigger picture.

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Radha

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq2kJ56hSqo

@ #24 Dr Julia Hare breaks down whats going on around 6:10 and why our black leadership sucks these days.

149.

THE CL CHAT!!

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

fuck cam’ron

150.

txsupercutie

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 /

@ #74 Bam Bam… I co-sign to the fullest!

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