To everybody in here who doesnt understand how somebody could not tell if they saw a crime committed, its quite simple. See in the hood, if they find out yo ass has snitched on somebody that they fuck wit or the person you snitched on finds out, they will fuck up not only you, but errbody you fuck wit as well. In the past year I lost 5 friends because somebody was a snitch and the person who got in trouble’s folk went after innocent people just to prove a point. Bottom line, snitchin leads to more innocent lives being wasted. I’m fro da hood and i’m proud to say that I would never snitch

151. allicat87 said:
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To everybody in here who doesnt understand how somebody could not tell if they saw a crime committed, its quite simple. See in the hood, if they find out yo ass has snitched on somebody that they fuck wit or the person you snitched on finds out, they will fuck up not only you, but errbody you fuck wit as well. In the past year I lost 5 friends because somebody was a snitch and the person who got in trouble’s folk went after innocent people just to prove a point. Bottom line, snitchin leads to more innocent lives being wasted. I’m fro da hood and i’m proud to say that I would never snitch

Bill Said:

Thank you….

That’s how it works in the hood.

They won’t come after YOU, but they will deal with your MOTHER, or they will Kidnap your CHILD.

It’s Just best to keep your mouth shut, and MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.

How about this Cam’ron: STOP COONIN. START THINKIN.

That’s the dumbest ish i’ve heard in a while, and i’ve been listenin to alot of rap. He’s the worst kind of fool. Someone put on a pedestal b/c he entertains. He has no common sense at all. If the serial killer next door killed your son and you found out the guy on the other side of him knew he was there, you’d be ready to have his head. He’s a clown to the 10th degree. His business is already ruined b/c he’s a clown and he’s not even NICE as a rapper.

Stop Coonin. Really. Google it, there is hope. http://www.stopcoonin.com

148. Radha said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq2kJ56hSqo

@ #24 Dr Julia Hare breaks down whats going on around 6:10 and why our black leadership sucks these days.

>>>>>>> “They know how power that’s why they gave us integration. Integration is NOTHINg but the illusion of inclusion”. She’s DOOOOOOPE!

#24 Lashonda said…

“But the problem the streets don’t understand is THEY ARE THE ONES WHO SUFFER FROM THE DON’T SNITCH POLICY, not these rappers who are loaded and come out to spit game but then run back to their gated beverly hills cribs. ”

I AGREE 100%!!!!

It was too funny when Snoop got mad at Bill O’Reilly and told Bill he wanted him to come to his “hood” so he could get his a** beat. Bill responded on his show by saying, “Who’s gonna beat me up? The gardner!” LOL!!!! He sold his place so maybe he is in the hood now. Lol!

THANK YOU BILL!

will somebody PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE TELL CAMRON THAT NO ONE CARES ABOUT HIM!!!!!!!!!! WITH HIS HOMO THUGGIN ASS. tRYING TO GET AS MUCH ATTENTION AS HE POSSIBLY CAN. nO ONE CARES ABOUT YOU OKAY!!!!!!!!! yOUR JUST ANNOYING, THAT’S THE ONLY REASON HE GOT SHOT IS BECAUSE HE IS ANNOYING.

I WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE ON BEHALF OF ALL AFRICAN AMERICAN MEN FOR THE REMARKS THAT CAME OUT OF CAMRON’S MOUTH. THIS CODE THAT RAPPERS LIVE BY IS SO DISGUSTING AND AN EMBARASSMENT TO THE AFRICAN AMERICAN CULTURE AS A WHOLE. THESE PERSONS ARE NOT MEN BUT BOYS WHO NEVER GREW UP. EVERYBODY WANTS TO MAKE IT OUT THE HOOD. NO ONE WANTS TO STAY IN THE HOOD, SO WHY CONTINUE TO LIVE BY A HOOD CODE. YOU ARE SMART ENOUGH TO MAKE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS YET YOU CAN’T PULL YOUR HEAD FROM YOUR A** LONG ENOUGH TO SET A POSITIVE EXAMPLE FOR CHILDREN WHO WALK AROUND SINGING YOUR LYRICS. WHAT A SHAME! WHERE ARE OUR LEADERS? AND WE WONDER WHY PEOPLE COME DOWN ON RAPPERS EVERYTIME THERE IS ANY DISPUTE AMONGST OUR WHITE COUNTERPARTS. ITS SO EASY TO SHIFT BACK TO HIP HOP AND SAY LOOK AT THEM! LOOK AT HOW THEY ACT! LOOK AT WHAT THEY DO! LETS STOP BEING TARGETS FOR PEOPLE TO LOOK AT AND POINT THE FINGER AND SAY THATS THEM THERE ARE THE BAD GUYS!! STAND UP FOR WHATS RIGHT AND LETS STOP FOLLOWING THE LEAD OF BOYS AND ACT LIKE REASONABLE, RESPCETABLE HUMAN BEINGS. AND OH BY THE WAY PUSH COME TO SHOVE, I’M TELLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ANTWANM…Sorry to say this, but Cameron made himself look bad. He needs no help from the media.

If y’all wanna sing to the cops and then have to watch your backs for the rest of your life then go head and do it but when you from the hood especially from Harlem,you are taught two things as a youngn.
1.Get money.
2.Never snitch.

If you’re not from Harlem,you wouldn’t understand.

I agre with the tape let it be a ku klux klan member and we would say something. It was so sad to see the kids from church Lmao talking about not snichin.

Camron answered the question to why Russell and Kevin Lyles wont blame hip hop because ther is too much money involved. Camron should just keep quiet.

im still baffled about how i have to live in fear because this coward wont OWN UP to what they did…you do the crime…dont want to pay for it because youre SCARED…then brainwash these gullible people saying basically saying..”if you tell on me imma get mad then kill you or those close to you lol…THATS ABOUT THE DUMBEST THING IVE EVER HEARD…#1 if you cant take the heat..dont do it…i cant stand to see people saying oh dont snitch dont snitch but if it was my child or my lil cousin then MAYBE?? the rules all of a sudden change…how do you think those people feel…it might not be yours but its SOMEBODY’S CHILD OR COUSIN..RELATIVE WHATEVER…and then there’s the whole thing…aside from “snitching” for a what you saw…theres this issue of taking the wrap for what you didnt do…JUST AS EQUALLY DUMB..WHY should i put aside my life for your mistakes…you say oh yea thats my nigga..they took the charge for me…yada yada…but honestly what does that make YOU…why would you let somebody take the fall for your stupidity but if they jump up like “HELL NAW! ! ! ” OWN UP TO YO STUFF..DONT PUT THAT ON ME…theyre WRONG…but if they get 5 to 10 years..everything all chicken and gravy…and you still end up in jail…lol…i would hate to have that mindset…and cam’ron on that serial killer tip…no comment

@1finedyme
omg sgt mason be shaaarp. She dont miss a beat.lol

I think that it all just depends on the situation and the crime. There is a thin line and it’s definitely a two way street. But since they put us on blast, when are they going to put the police on blast for the codes that they follow to protect their own??? What about these dirty azz politicians who lie and cover for each other at the cost of innocent lives being lost in foreign lands due to illegitimate wars and other causes that the public may or may not be privy to?

For all of those who are willing to give their lives for justice (so you say on the blog): Kudos. But no amount of justice is going to bring your loved one back. Death is something we all have to deal with and there’s no use in me losing my life, too over someone’s elses death. I mean honestly, would those of you who are willing to lie down your lives for justice honestly want you family to go the police in the event of your murder IF it meant risking their own lives??? I mean for what?? At the end of the day the victim is still dead and your @ss could be next. God’s sees everything anyway, and please believe He will settle the score.

Btw, my opinions have nothing to do with Camron’s, the rap game, or any other game. Just real talk.

Singing… “Come’n let me ride that donkey..donkey..let me ride that donkey baby”..

the bottom line is when you turn some one in “snitch” (whatever you want to call it) It prevents that person from killing again and again and also for the families to get closure.I think you have to be a victim or a family member in order to understand.

We are systemically killing ourselves with the made-up street philosophies. We are handing our communities to criminals.

bringing them back from the dead is so far beyond the point though….answer me this…all jokes aside…somebody close to you dies…your fam freaking out….it was the “one nobody thought would go out that way”…it was all senseless..and fam want answers…and YOU knew who did it…would you really keep it to yourself and let it go cuz they cant come back…would you really let that person roam the streets..honestly?? and its sad how people automatically think if they go to authorities they risk there lives…in alot of situations that is not the case….and just like God sees everything…He protects you when you ask for protection…there’s really no excuse

on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 @ 4:33 pm

164. Cmeez said:
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I think that it all just depends on the situation and the crime. There is a thin line and it’s definitely a two way street. But since they put us on blast, when are they going to put the police on blast for the codes that they follow to protect their own??? What about these dirty azz politicians who lie and cover for each other at the cost of innocent lives being lost in foreign lands due to illegitimate wars and other causes that the public may or may not be privy to?

For all of those who are willing to give their lives for justice (so you say on the blog): Kudos. But no amount of justice is going to bring your loved one back. Death is something we all have to deal with and there’s no use in me losing my life, too over someone’s elses death. I mean honestly, would those of you who are willing to lie down your lives for justice honestly want you family to go the police in the event of your murder IF it meant risking their own lives??? I mean for what?? At the end of the day the victim is still dead and your @ss could be next. God’s sees everything anyway, and please believe He will settle the score.

Btw, my opinions have nothing to do with Camron’s, the rap game, or any other game. Just real talk.

Bill Said:

About a month ago, Tony Yayo slapped Jimmy Henchman’s kid in the face…

This weekend, Jimmy Henchman sent some gunman to Tony Yayo’s MOTHER HOUSE, and they shot his MOTHER’s house up….

See..these days, people don’t deal with the individual they have beef with.

They will involve your ENTIRE family.
The will cause your MORE (Additional) pain to see a loved one killed (an innocent citizen)

THESE DAYS, if someone has beef with YOU, instead of dealing with you man to man, they will kidnap your kid, or kill your mother…..

It’s just best to handle situations yourself, and above all Mind your OWN business.

The Street can handle themselves
What you see on the streets should STAY on the Street.

Warning for the Wise….Warning to keep you alive
Peace

I noticed that even though they said something about no witnesses coming to tell about how Pac got murdered, they failed to mention
there was a guy that was going to tell the police who he saw do it and he ended up getting MURDERED his self.

I propose a new campaign… call it “Stop Missin”
If the shooter in D.C. wouldn’t have missed, than we could have rid the world of the stupidity that is CAMERON GILES!

You see I’m really confused because after watching the video and reading what most of you have to say, I dont know what to do?!! I mean I agree with the ones who are talkin about ” If you saw your child get raped would you tell who did it?!” but I ALSO agree with the people from the hood like Bill. I mean he makes a great point too! It’s bad enough one person gets murdered, then you, your crew, ya whole family gets in on the whole action. And everyday you wake up youre gonna think about trying to avoid the friends of the person who raped ya child. But like I said before… it ALLLL ties back into the part about tellin who raped your child or not! Theres REALLY no way out of this situation. wooo this REALLY makes us look bad. Just like the Imus thing… black people get so worked up over him calling black girls ” nappy headed hoes” and saying something about Spike Lee. Thats not RACIST! Just because a white man said it to a black girl makes it over the top racist. But black guys call women that EVERY flippin day! They do it in schools. At home. In rap videos. Everywhere!I’ve been called a hoe by someone of a different race but no one sees me broadcasting it! and the “nappy headed” part def. aint racist. That’s just being mean. Not all black people have hair like that… and if you do…honey you got perms,relaxers,GREASE lol, all types of chemicals. I mean I hope I’m making a lil point maybe.

What the hell is this “snitching” stuff about. All of these “grown ass” advocating not “snitching” are irresponsible & childish. The adult thing would be giving up the information. That street BS is crazy. Living that lifestyle will only hurt those around you & put you in an early grave!

you can call me whatever you want you want to but I got to agree with number 5 I’ve seen many many things growing up out here in the jets in NEW ORLEANS and I will not tell a soul sometimes you honestly gotta shut the f**k up or you are next, because nowadays out here the police are the ones doing the crimes

He was shot and still didnt snitch? Damn, id be up all over CNN and BBC. The snitching code is stupid and thats why Lil Kim’s ass went to prison.

first of all this is not a true perception or representation of my people. most people do not talk or cooperate with the police because of a lack of protection. when you testify against a criminal your name, and whole life story will be in the court documents and once the system is done with you for them its over. but you have to go home and constantly watch your back. look at the family whose house was firebombed for assisting the police..if they protect us like they do the elite then they may get more cooperation.

secondly, get to the root of the problem. the whole not trust the police started or talk to the police started from racism. When there were no black officers and the white officers were racists and hateful. so come on people why let the media do this to us. when the truth is this code is for people in the streets handling street business. growing up in the hood my understanding of no snitching meant not telling on thugs doing their thug thing. we all know this does not apply to crimes like rape and abuse. we need to stop allowing the media paint these pictures of us.

This is the first time I have ever seen Cooper get something wrong. He makes it seem like Snitching is exclusive to the African American Community. When in actuality, it is reflected in the Italian, Hispanic and Asian community just as prominently.

Stop Snitchin is pure ingnorance at it’s best. No dispute. But in truth, it is also a survivial technique used in part by persons who fear retaliation and get no protection from the police. Particuarly those who live the street life.

Shame on Cooper for giving this “news” story his own personal slant.

kind.

It may sound ignorant but that’s how certain people were brought up. So you cant just call em stupid because thats all they know.

This is some real sh**. What half the people in the black community dont understand is these so called rappers who grew up in the hood dont give two SH**S about you. Some of yall are the same ones who are easily influenced by every little thing a rapper say or does, yall causing it to infilter and poison our damn communities. What the f**k is going on these days???!!! So you telling me you care more about your street cred or buisness than some person’s life. Are you trying to tell me if witnessed somebody get brutally raped or killed or robbed, you wouldnt come forward so that the coward who committed the crime be brought forward to justice.
Another thing is, young black people especially young black men, are so easily influnced that they follow what they hear or think is “cool” or “down” on radio and tv. Most of these rappers who glorify the hood dont even know what the f**k the hood is about. They dont know the pain,agony,or struggle each and everyday we face. All them fake ass rappers and big wig cooperations want to do is profit off your dumb asses and you easily fell into the trap. How you gonna let some rapper tell yuo the rules and codes of the streets when they dont even live there. You stuck in a hell called the ghetto and their asses f***ing living large in some private gated community with 1292292 cars in their garage and some huge fancy ass house. Smh, cant believe them dumb ass kids went on that show and the girl said its a rule not to snitch. Young girl, if you seen your momma get shot, would you blow your horn then, young boy if you witnessed your best friend get stabbed to death, would you toot your horn then to the police.
Im outraged at Camron’s ignant ass. But what do expect from some idiot. I hope what ever serial killer that is living next to his ass, kills his as, somebody witness the sh** and doesnt snitch like he preaches in his songs. I dont mean to wish something like that somebody, but knowing you got fools like him living in your neighborhoods, makes me wish sh** like that. One day young and old folks will get weary of the nonsense and take action. I know damn well if witnessed a murder, a robbery or rape, my ass is going to “SNITCH”.

Love,Peace,&&Honeyy

This is to funny to me! So let me get this right ,I can’t tell on John Doe cause he sells a little weed here and there in the hood, or the dope boys on the corner, but let John Doe go around the hood raping little girls , and all hell breaks loose. How is it fine for one but not the other, Its like your picking who is not serious (a little weed,crack) or a person raping little girls. I bet any parent(mother/father) who’s little girl gets rape in the hood , would not be like ”am not stop snitchin let it ride”? Black people live in fear. So you snitch on Dope boy, he finds you , kills you ,no one tells. Now your dead. Now you want your family to just let it ride? Black people are so lost. Ask some person in prison about all this Stop snitchin stuff, I bet a lot of heads would turn then. How many men/women behind bars, wishing they could be free on the outside,living life daily. In prison cause of some street credit. Put me down any day am a snitch for life, please believe it believe it please. If I see you in a crime, am going to the police , pointing you out. Then am going home. Your going to jail because you did a crime. So I should go to jail for not telling on you. insert-LIL KIM- Am done venting , please out !

3 Points to Make…

#1. Police offers who work the “hood” are sometimes just as corrupt as the thugs or better yet working with the thugs. Stop snitching didn’t come out of thin air, black people have never trusted the police.

#2. Maybe of Police Officers treated people in the “inner city” with more respect and became partners in the community they could build trust ant get more information. There are many neighborhoods where these police/community policing models have worked, but they take open minds on both sides.

#3. I know hip hop is out of control, but it did not single handely create all the problems in the black community. It’s only 30 years old. Don’t forget the good old days when police officers where hosing children down with water hoses and turning dogs loose on black men and woman!

#4. I’m gonna have to ask the mainstream media to stop using wack ass rappers as the voice of hip hop. This is getting out of hand.

#5. Cameron’s and ass. Hands down, a pink boa wearing ass.

^ *oops 5 points

176. chante said:

first of all this is not a true perception or representation of my people.

>>>>>>> Find another name, that’s not funny.

I actually used to work with an older BLACK man whose son was murdered by Jeffery Domer (I think I spelled it right) years ago. So Cam’s logic about not snitching on a serial killer (or any killer) for that matter is WHACK!!! You cannot tell me if he knew someone that murdered a family member of his that he wouldn’t tell. But I can also see it from the other side. My brother was murdered in 2002. The only reason his killer turned himself in was because he was in fear for his life on the streets. He decided he’d rather be in prison than suffer the “street justice” that he was SO QUICK to deal out. Go figure…..

P.S. He got 20 but I’m sure he’ll serve 10 or less.

It’s strange how no one mentioned how Whites committed many acts of terror (cross burning, fire bombs, lynching, random killings) against Blacks, in Mobs mind you, yet NONE of them snitched on each other! Did anyone from these mobs tell on the others or did they give witness accounts to police? Now how is it that the “Stop/No Snitching” philosophy is the Hip Hop or the Black Community’s fault? History tells me otherwise!

And I want to give my personal story:

I’ve witnessed 3 horrible events. I had no intentions of running to some cops to tell what I witnessed. Why? Because it’s possible that I may be sent to an early grave or my family and close friends may be next just to send me a message. Why doesn’t anyone understand that this is two fold?

And before someone mentions the Witness Protection program, I know 3 people (a mother and her kids) who got killed while in it!

Please don’t forget that the witnesses have much more on their shoulders than you can imagine. In one hand, you want that person off the streets but in the other, you want your life. These are the options you have and I’m pretty sure, you will choose your life over death!

Honestyl, I don’t understand why people still continue to say that snitchin is the right thing to do. I guess people who have no real understanding of how the streets work would have that opinion. Let’s say that you do snitch on somebody that did something criminal towards you and that person gets sentenced.You’re probably thinking that its the end of that story but i promise you its not. Because more than likely the criminal’s friends and family will come after you and everybody you love because they wanna see you hurtin in these streets. It aint no love out here. You basically gotta look out for yo’self and yo family cuz the next person is just waitin on the opportunity to come up in these streets. And no, you dont have to be from harlem to understand that shit. Shit, thats every hood in america that it happens. And as far as closure goes, life goes on, snitchin won’t bring that person back. Hell you liable to wind up dead wit em.

on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 @ 6:42 am

187. allicat87 said:
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Honestyl, I don’t understand why people still continue to say that snitchin is the right thing to do. I guess people who have no real understanding of how the streets work would have that opinion. Let’s say that you do snitch on somebody that did something criminal towards you and that person gets sentenced.You’re probably thinking that its the end of that story but i promise you its not. Because more than likely the criminal’s friends and family will come after you and everybody you love because they wanna see you hurtin in these streets. It aint no love out here. You basically gotta look out for yo’self and yo family cuz the next person is just waitin on the opportunity to come up in these streets. And no, you dont have to be from harlem to understand that shit. Shit, thats every hood in america that it happens. And as far as closure goes, life goes on, snitchin won’t bring that person back. Hell you liable to wind up dead wit em.

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Bill Said:

They don’t understand….

People live in their own little fog, and they think that once they report something to the police, the Police is going to insure their safety…

People are very naive about the police..The Police are just looking to close cases, and make sure the statitics look good on paper, so they will continue to have a job…….

* Crime DOES pay….Law Enforcement & Encarceration (The Prison Industry) is a Billion dollar Industry.

Well, I’ve read a few of the comments. I can understand all of your views. But all I can say is unless you’ve had it happen to you (i.e. a family member murdered), it’s hard to understand and empathize. I don’t understand how helping your fellow man (not the police, but your fellow man….) turned into snitching.

Hopefully some of you see that no one (government, other races, etc.) cares if we govern ourselves and kill each other off. WE have to be the ones to decide that it’s time for change…….

I’m sure the KKK is jumping for joy about this one. I’m sure conversations in the celebration are going like this, “Damn not only do they kill one another for us but they also let the killers stay out on the streets to possibly kill again!”. Why must we as a people with the most dominant gene pool continue to make fools of ourselves?!? The closest thing we have had to a revolution or change (revolution is too loaded a word for some) in our thought process as a community was sparked by a crazy old white man (Imus) with way too much power and way too little intellegence. Why is it that we don’t demand respect proactively (or before people like Imus think it’s cool to degrade women and falsely patronize black people)?!? I have been seeing fools in ATL wearing those “Stop Snitchin” and “Sntiches Get Stitches” T-shirts since 2004 and have yet to make sense of it. Half of the fools that buy into this kinda thing don’t even involve themselves in anything worth snitching on they are just hype men, P.R. agents, and flunkies for ignorance movements that are continually destroying our community from the core!

http://www.harvestinstitute.org

@bill
you’re right, many of us don’t understand. the root thing I don’t understand is all this mention of “the streets” as if it’s some mystical place. you know what - the shytty neighborhood I grew up in has a lot of these “rule” people are talking about. But When you walk over to the next “street” the rules change. I’m not disrepecting the position of the person who keeps his/her mouth shut for fear of the lives or their loved ones but what I am saying is that black people need to realize/ rememeber that the world is bigger than the block you live on. All this don’t snitch stuff isn’t helping us. They don’t even have to try to confine us to the ghetto - we do it. then we kill each other. and not only do we forgo the justice system. we don’t police our own either.

I’m sorry, but White America and those boogie black folks who lived in suburbia all their lives don’t know what it’s like to lose a family member or a friend after they chose to cooperate with the cops, and while they were SUPPOSED to be under witness protectiion. I’m from New Orleans, and a lesson learned EARLY is to see and don’t see. Almost every person who chose to “snitch” was killed. Of course we want to help fight crime, but unless law enforcement comes up with a foolproof way to protect those who wish to help them, no one will come forward to testify in court. I mean, why lose YOUR life over someone who don’t give a damn about you anyway?

I JUST DON’T GET IT! solving murders is now a bad thing??? These “gangstas” need to check their morals, what would Cam’ron say if his family was murdered and someone who had information to put the criminal away decided not to snitch! i’m sure he would be singing a diffrent tune. I do not expect that this will go anywhere. PS. I think it is absolutely hillarious that Tysen Beckford is promoting this because he is a back up dancer who lost his “street credit” A long time ago!
PROMOTE PEACE!

Stop snitchin nigga. 50 cent he a snitch bitch. he aint gangsta these gunit niggaz frontin hard. STOP SNITCHING NIGGA. STOP LYING NIGGA. G G G G G UNOT