59. H-Town Chic*** said: “…AKON POCKETS ARE ABOUT TO GET A LITTLE LIGHTER LOL!!!

HOUSE OF PAYNE IS LAME.

ISAIAH SHOULDN’T BEEN FIRED BUT I KNEW THAT THEY GONNA DO IT. WELL I HOPE THEY REPLACE HIM WITH ANOTHER BLACK MALE OR FEMALE.

WHAT’S UP CHANTE’?!!”

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Real positive comments, Chante’ stans! lol!

Tyler Perry- The show is awful. Portrays black folk as a bunch of sambos. I never thought he was good at his job, but the rest of the world begs to differ. Go figure.

Isaiah- HA

Ne-Yo- stop congratulatin this man for this. This shit is a shame. His ex goes and gets pregnant by some other dude and he has to take the fall for it. I know the kid deserves a father, but damn. I can’t stand lady-lovers like this. Now his ex prolly think she can get pregnant any damn time she wants, knowing that this soft dude gon take care of the kid.

Akon- fastest burnout in the industry since Black Rob.

That is very honorable what Ne-Yo did. Mad love to him.

Isaiah Washington…no suprise there. Am suprised he mad it that long.

I don’t know what is going on with Akon. He shouldn’t do live performances though. He don’t know how to act…a lil something called home training. Its hard to teach to a grown ass man..

OK AFTER IT WAS REPORTED THAT ISAIAH WAS DEFINETLY NOT ONE OF THE ONES GETTING CANNED SMH

I NEVER WATCHED THE SHIT ANYWAY BUT ITS OK FOX WILL PICK HIM UP, FOX TAKES EVERYBODY

WE NEED TO SUPPORT HOP, I PRAY THEY GET SOME NEW MATERIAL

House of Payne was cool, it’s summertime what else will you watch?! Why can’t ppl just support the show, if you have DVR, tape it & then delete nobody will care. I just want the show to do we’ll, at least you have black folks on TV doing something positive….unless you like watching BET & College Hill??

Damn I forgot all about the Tyler Perry show! Oh well I’ll catch it next week. They should’ve had more advertising, at least here in nyc.

As far as the Ne-yo situation, something seems fishy, ’cause I could’ve swore he said lead the public to believe that was his biological son when he first came out, and if it wasn’t then he should’ve clarified that then. Y wait til now 2 do it? Don’t get me wrong if this if true then I commend him ’cause that is major, but if it’s not then he needs to find better ways of getting publicity! Cause yall know he put them head pic out himself.

And 4 Akon I thought it was fake also, but come on he gets no props for thowing a nerdy white 15 year old into the crowd, maybe if it was a grown ass man, but not no kid! He is so wack 4 that! Artists need to just let the music get them attention they so desperately seek….cause this right here aint gettin it!

To Gina: I can’t stand Katherine “Izzy” Heigle either but I knew he was going to be fired especially with all that Don Imus drama. I’m a little surprised most people are so upset by this. Regardless of whether the man is gay or not, Isiah shouldn’t have called him a “f@ggot”. If the situation were reversed and T.R. Knight or Patrick Dempsey called Isiah a “n!gger”, we’d be pulling out all the stops to make sure they were fired and probably never work in television again. Somewhere we as people need to stop being so hypocritical and hold our own more accountable for their actions.

I cannot express how much I am pissed about Isiah leaving Grey’s Anatomy! He was my best actor on the show! He brought something different to the show. I am so sick to my stomach!! And for Shonda Rimes to be a black person, she knows how hard it is for black actors actors to make it in this business! Like Tyra says, “SO WHAT”, he called George a fag!!! Im sure that was not the first time that he was called a fag! He said that out of anger! I’m sure that he does not hate homosexuals! When people get upset they say things that they dont mean!! He aplogized about that numerous amount of times!! That is all that he can do is apologize! Everytime there is a show on that has great success, they always do something to mess it up!! As yall can see, I am PISSED about them firing Isiah! I loved Grey’s Anatomy!

Ne-yo- props!! that is a MANLY thing that his doing!

House of Payne- was stale and wack as HELL! It wasnt funny at all! I think I laughed only once! It was so obvious that they were acting! It was almost like they were doing a play! But im going to try to give the brother another chance to redeem himself! But, hes going to have to bring it if he wants to make it at least one full season!

Mann, HOP was a mess! Even Madear couldn’t help that show! The live studio audience didn’t even laugh! Hell I can make a muther****** laugh harder that that! Come on!

77. Bootsy Collins said: “…Ne-Yo- stop congratulatin this man for this. This shit is a shame. His ex goes and gets pregnant by some other dude and he has to take the fall for it. I know the kid deserves a father, but damn. I can’t stand lady-lovers like this. Now his ex prolly think she can get pregnant any damn time she wants, knowing that this soft dude gon take care of the kid.”

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I was thinking the same damn thing!!! Women go crazy when they see a man pulling his Platinum card out! Last month, Ne-Yo was a gay, sexist to them and this week he conviently leaks a “chumped” up story, that no one should have ever hear about, and here these women come out of the wood works to give him praise!

I don’t see him in Vanity Fair with JayZ nem! Help some of them African babies and then I’ll offer up some “atta boys”!

Much respect to Neyo for taking care of biz like a REAL MAN should….

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-No matter what side of the arguement you come down on, one has to admit that America has a comparitively low tolerance when it comes to black people’s perceived/actual indiscretions. I’m just not convinced that had Isaiah been white, he would have been put through the same paces. I don’t even watch the show but I’m just saying.

-I think what Neyo is doing is admirable. I’m scratching my head though b/c I don’t see how anyone could be critical of this. The child’s father ABANDONED him. Neyo > 0 (nothing)

- I really really really like supporting black folks when they are trying to do something but HOP is putting a sister to the test. The laugh track has to GO and they need new writers like yesterday. Did Tyler actually see these episodes?

I agree with Bre and yes I read “all” of the post, but im not surprised you are being attacked.

How is taking care of another mans child from a woman that you’re not even involved with, considered “stepping up”?? If you ask me, Neyo is a moron. I could understand if he was getting married to her or he was at least with her. He just gave that woman a free pass in life. She shouldve been a better judge of character and not had a child with the loser father.

This is to #82. I’m getting tired of people comparing a homophobic slur to a racial slur. I don’t care who I offend with this but unlike gays and lesbians, I didn’t just wake up one day and decide to be black. Being gay is a choice. Being black isn’t. Isiah didn’t deserve to be fired for calling Mr. Knight a fag. When he chose that lifestyle, names like that come with the territory.

House Of Payne was AWFUL…I had to force myself to watch it since they said Mr. Brown was gon be on the second episode and it was not worth it. But Allen Payne is FIOONNNNNNEE but he is not that fine for me to stick around for that mess.

Isaiah…oh well he wasn’t even good on the show. He was so boring and dull so I think he needs to be replaced with a better actor.

Ne-Yo I luv him and all the haters need to fall back cause he is doing something so honorable and different, taking care of another man’s baby is so nice of him.

Akon…please lock this fool up and flush the key cause he aint nuthin but a menace II society. His music is terrible, his voice is a mess, he looks like his face needs lotion, and how many times is he gonna do some stupid mess like this? What is his appeal? Please stop buying his music cause if you are you know you are wrong!

Isaiah’s firing was long overdue. His conduct was inexcusable and created a distraction. He should have been fired immediately after it happened.

I knew I wouldn’t like House of Payne just by watching the promos. I’m sick and tired of unattractive, overweight, and unhealthy looking black folks on TV. That show should be canned.

House of Payne was almost painful to watch! It was dry, not funny, and BORING. I expected more from Tyler Perry! Sad.

Isiah made his bed, now he has to lay in it.

Not interested in HOP.

I think it’s great that Ne-Yo stepped up to take care of a child that’s not his…we have enough fatherless black children, so Ne-Yo gets nothing but respect from me.

*clapping hands* Good for Ne-Yo its nice to see a brotha step up to the plate. I have a friend like that he is taking care of TWO kids that arent his seed. We have some good brothas out there. The babys mother is cute!

I loved Isiah’s character on Greys but unfortunately he reaped what he sowed. Maybe he will be humbled by the situation and not be a pompous AZZ. This is not a black and white issue! People kill me trying to make this a race issue when it is not. If this happened in the real world, he would have been fired immediately.
Come on ppl wise up

I posted when the incident first came out and everybody was callin it fake that it didnt LOOK that way because he was thrown AT the ppl in the audience. I said what if someone got busted in the head and SEEMS to be exactly what happened. Your a f*ckin idiot Akon. Pull out your wallet playa!

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Isaiah Washington
You had to be AWARE THAT THEY WERE GOING TO FIRE YOU
AFTER YOU SAID SORRY
IF YOU HAD NO CLUE!!!
SOMEONE NEEDS TO SLAP THE BLACK OFF OF YOU!
******************************************************NE~Yo
Do your thing if he makes you happy
******************************************************AKON There are NO words to say !!!!

@ MEAT UNFORNATELY THOSE COMMENTS WERE TRUE AND DO I HAVE A BE A CHANTE’ STAN? WHAT’S UP WITH THAT?

AND AS FAR AS YOUR LITTLE COMMENT ABOUT “WOMEN” ALL IN LOVE WITH NEYO BECAUSE HE DECIDE TO STEP UP IS NOT TRUE. JUST BECAUSE HE’S DOING THIS NOW DOSEN’T MEAN THAT IT WILL LAST CAUSE I DON’T THINK IT WILL. DON’T PUT IN THAT CATAGORY BECAUSE I STILL FEEL SAME ABOUT NEYO AS I ALWAYS HAVE. I STILL HE LOOKS LIKE A CATFISH BUT ON THE FLIPSIDE I THINK HE’S A GREAT SONG WRITER.

@92

yup!! Im tired of seeing it too.

@95

So I guess those Black men that work and are ambitious and protect their seed by not going around and having kids, aren’t considered “good black men”?

So now I gotta call up all my exgirlfriends and ask them if they have any kids that need a fathering?? That’s Bullshit. Yall women are applauding this man because that’s your fanatsy. To have a kid by some dude that u don’t even know, only to have a famous singer sweep u off your feet and pay for everything.

Meat, HEY! I still think Ne-Yo is sweet-o! But to say that he will be there for this child is admirable IMO! This little boy’s bio dad is outtie? I think!:P So if Ne-yo is sayin I will be there for him, then thats a good thing. Even if he was a regular guy. Not cuz of his financial status. Which we dont know for sure is all that. Remember TLC, New Edition and some other youngstas were thought were ballin and were getting ripped off! Its just like adopting a baby that is not yours. Now I do think he must be wise and cautious if he is committed to this baby for the long haul. As far as his behavior and choices. Just mu opinion.

I heard that Paris is going back to jail!

Good for Ne-Yo.

So, you gusy mean I should worry about watching House Of Paybe when or if it gets acquired this side?

I like Mika’s point…with a twist: Chimere’s mom made her bed, now she should lay in it! But, along comes Ne-Yo with his gay ass and bails her out like Paris after two days in jail!

“She shouldn’t get a blessin, if she don’t learn a lesson”…Mike T.

Ne-Yo ain’t steppin up to the plate, he’s steppin up to the cash register and ATM machine!

“Ahhhh, he’s such a great man!!” We need more rich men giving a few thousand dollars to their ex-girlfriends! That should give hope to all the up and coming teen mothers!

He just bought that ho! She need to get her video ho looking ass out of that bed and get a job!

And, Ne-Yo should keep his gay business to himself! That’s why she called…”EX”!

Unless they replace Isaiah with someone really good and African American, they just lost me. They will have to pique my interest to get me back.

I knew damn well that baby was not Ne-Yo’s from the door. That child looked nothing like either of them and I believe I may have posted on it. It is nice of him to do that though. My son has not father and life would have been a lot easier for me and him if he had a male figure who stepped up. I think our black men who have the time should help a friend or family member with there children, remember, it takes a villiage. I don’t mean financial support exactly, but they could take time with them. My brothers just started showing interest in my son and he is now 16. they don’t show enough and it is really sorry. I resent them for that. i am financially sound, but they could show some interest. Let my man go to the NFL and they asses would be all over the place hollering about THAT”S MY NEPHEW!

HOP ~ It was pretty wack but I will support Tyler anyway.

Isaiah ~ Don’t you feel stupid? The apology + public announcements = one fired a$$

Ne-Yo ~ Just make sure you stay in that child’s life. You’re the only father that baby knows. Every child deserves to have a mother and father figure in their life. Even if it’s not biological. I applaud you Go-Go. LOL!

Akon ~ Man up! You have to be responsible for your actions. And for the record, you were wrong! It was funny, but wrong.

OOPS DID NOT KNOW BILL WAS POSTING THE STORY! SORRY!

blksweat3121 Flag post

Its very very sad. Its hard enough for a black actor to get a job on any network. But to have a prime role on a number 1 hit tv show on a major network and say something stupid like that. What was he thinking? Im invincible. I don’t understand how these black men get all this money and fame & always act a fool. It happens everytime. Akon r u reading this? BLACK MEN STOP ACTING A FOOL WHEN U GET A LIL MONEY & FAME BE HUMBLE . Thank god for what u were Blessed with

Compton, I love your new avatar.

@99 First off I don’t have children and when I do I most def expect to be married to the man so I would know him. That aint my fantasy GTFOH! How is me applauding a man who is raising ANOTHER man’s child a problem? A man who takes care of his own child is great but thats what he is SUPPOSED to do. He shouldn’t get a pat on the back for doing that. Women don’t. A man stepping up to the plate for one that is not his own ESPECIALLY when he is not involved with the mother is wonderful and deserves to be commended.

Off topic -

I am over here fucking some apples and peanut butter UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now carry on……

@ Meat, why is it all about money? How do you know that the baby’s mother doesn’t have a job? Fuck the money, I think it’s great that Ne-Yo is a father figure to the little boy. Would you rather the baby be fatherless with no guidance from a man? Then he’ll grow up acting out because he’s wondering who and where his father is.

LMAOOOOOOOOOO @ DDS!

I think the whole “Paris freed from jail” stuff is a disgrace. Medical condition my ass! There are people in prison/jail dying from AIDS or have hell of a way harsher medical condition than her apparent “rash” or whatever, so she just got off basically because she’s rich and a celebrity.
She was crying and wouldn’t eat. Oh the hell well! She should of thought about that before she hopped her drunk ass in a car and drove and then driving around on her suspended license. What if she ran over a small child driving drunk? I don’t feel a bit sorry for her and I fell like she needs to serve her jail sentence just like anyone else.

Oh and as far as Isaiah, I feel it was wrong to fire him after his apology, after his rehab, but I still say now that he’s gone–bring on Morris Chestnut! I need to see some sexy chocolate on tha show! The got McDreany, McSteamy, now we need McChocolate! Okay, maybe not McChocolate, but yall get what I mean!

HAHA–Isaiah has nobody to blame but himself. He didn’t just call the man a “faggot”, he created a terrible working environment for the rest of the cast and crew afterwards and became a PR nightmare for the show. I mean, seriously, the man has been behaving with the intelligence and class of a chimp throughout this whole incident. Even Katherine Heigel had to come out and say he really needs to shut the fuck up about it if he really wants it to go away. Those commercials he filmed were laughable and did nothing to help the show. In the end, I think the best decision was made. If wanted to act like an ass throughout this whole mess (as he has been), his ass needed to get cut.

And he’s STILL acting like a dumbass. I really doubt that “I’m mad as hell!” statement he released is going to do any good for his career…well, maybe it’ll get him something on BET in the Sunday afternoon timeslot…

wow I am amazed that ppl think ne-yo taking care of this baby is JUST about money! Is that how u guys look at ur kids as a “bill to pay”! I am hoping that his intrest is more in the child’s upbringing and well being than him or his mama having major cash flow

@110

I could totally understand it if he was with her or was marrying her and decided to take care of the kid. But taking care of a plutonic exgirlfriend’s kid from some other loser??? That’s some sorry stupid simpish shit. She basically got a “get out of jail free card”. She shoulda showed more responsibility when she was having sex. Nobody forced her to have sex with the loser father, why should some other guy take care of her mistakes?

isaiah should have been fired long time ago………as quickly as imus was fired. We have no more right to use racial or sexual epithets than anyone else.

Neyo definetly stepped up as a man…It’s sad to see people still want to attack him and call him gay but gay or not he still doing something positive that most men would not do straight or gay so I have a new found respect for the dude.

Isaiah needed to be fired…If we can fire Imus for calling some chicks nappy headed hoes then Isaiah needs to be fired too for calling out faggots. Sure he’s intitled to his own beliefs but racism is racism rather it’s cuz of your skin color or sexual orientation it still the same….And I’m very much a straight man so i’m not on a gay agenda….It’s just wrong….

Tyler Perry show was so lame and corny…I couldn’t even sit through the first 5 minutes…I wanted to support the show but it’s crap and I can’t see it getting any better….

I’m not gonna go back and forth with this so we can agree to disagree. Just like you said nobody forced her to have sex with the father, well Ne-Yo isn’t being forced to take care of the kid. He CHOOSES too. You see it as stupid well I don’t. And we don’t in what way he is choosing to do so. I’m sure monetary wise but its not court ordered or anything ppl are assuming that her ass is just sitting back getting paid and won’t have to work again, now that may be the case but we don’t know that. What is more important is him taking time out to teach this lil boy how to be a man. *and don’t start with the gay jokes*

THEY SHOULD THROW DAT SPOILED BIDDY BACK INTO REALITY, I KNEW HER “GOING TO COUNTY” WAS JUST FOR SOME MUCH NEEDED “GOOD” PUBLICITY , AND SHE WOULD BE RELEASED…SHE NEEDS TO TOUGHEN UP AND HANDLE IT LIKE A REAL BISH

#115. PITTBOI. I agree 100%.

Re: Ne-Yo. We don’t know whether he’s a father figure or just a platinum card donor. I won’t make judgement, till I see or know otherwise. Maybe I’d feel a lot better if I seen pics of him out bonding with the child, as we have seen so many pics of other celebs & their kids. -shrugs- I dunno.

If that’s the case, can I get a pat on my back for damn near raising my crackhead aunt’s baby…or my grandmother for raising the same aunt’s other son?

@116

With the introduction of programs like child support, welfare and section 8, the government changed our communities viewpoint on children, not our men.

Before those programs were instituted, having children out of wedlock was looked down apon not it’s basically celebrated. Women are having children left and right without any responsibility or remorse because it has become a sort of income to live off of. Section encourages women to live on their own. The child support system is soo baised. I know plenty of my friends who have unfairly caught the short end of that program, that it just disgusts me. I refuse to have a child with a woman out of wedlock after seeing what the female biased court system can do.

So do I see illegitimate children as another bill? Until I decide that I want to have children, yes I do.

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wow I am amazed that ppl think ne-yo taking care of this baby is JUST about money! Is that how u guys look at ur kids as a “bill to pay”! I am hoping that his intrest is more in the child’s upbringing and well being than him or his mama having major cash flow

Bill Said:

It’s Human nature to take an interest in your friends children.

When my kids friends come by the house, I treat them like their my own.

That includes feeding them, and listening to them when they talk
* For whatever reason the neighborhood kids are always asking me for advice. I guess because I’m a social worker, they feel they can confide in me. That a good thing…

The kids that I work with at the high school I’m assigned to are in essence “my kids”.

They are in and out of my ofice all day asking questions, looking for jobs, asking me for money…

My Point ???
Well, it’s that kids have a way of growing on you.

You may not intend to go out of your way to help a kid, but if you have any type of heart, you will help a child that needs adult supervision in their life.

What type of person wouldn’t want to reach out and help a defenseless little baby ???

Epecially if you have the Time, Resources & Means (money).

* I’m not saying that ALL men should go around taking care of babies born out of wedlock.

That’s not wise, because most women mistake kindness for weakness, and the next thing you’ll be doing is paying her rent, and her car note…

Some situations are unique.

There are so many kids being born without a father in their lives.

One would have to use common sense in deciding to step into this situation, because it WON’T be a temporary assignment, but permanent !

Once a child get’s attached to you, you can’t just decide to walk out of his/her life. That’s not cool.

Neyo did a cool thing.

I just hope it’s not a publicity stunt or a temporary situation until he starts his own family

Peace

All of this is old news to me.
Who didn’t know Isaiah was getting fired? That’s what he gets. You can’t just be calling people faggots, I HATE that word and I don’t care who the hell you are.
Ne-Yo I absolutely Love. That’s his son more or less and he will continue to do right by him.
Kanye only 30? Yeah okay.

house of payne does get better a lil bit i’ve saw some of the episodes that they played last summer and there’s more drama to come

First, I would like to agree with # 26, how the hell does this french poddle looking slut get out of jail???

Hopefully, HOP gets better.

Isiah…..lol.

I give Neyo props for aiding this women raise her child. However, were is the real father, and why doesn’t he want to be involved in the child’s life?

I didn’t watch the whole episode of HOP. Initially I intended to decline free food at Hooters with my co workers, but after watching ten minutes of it, I got up and left.

Grey’s anatomy I never watched it so oh well. A

And as far as Ne-yo all the men who are biological fathers and don’t take care of theirs need to be ashamed. Triflin good for nothing bastards…… juss my opinion

OMFG, House of Payne was sooo stupid. I love Tyler Perry, but he should really consider stickin with his day job…PLAYS. I may check it out next week but nothin interesting has 2b on.

what about thw women that raise their kids ALONE more times than not! What about adoptive parents. They are not sexually/romantically involved with the birth parents. Its about the CHILD! I work with a lady that is openly gay. She and her lover adopted a lil’boy 3 years ago! He is the cutest fellow! His situation wouldve been a terrible one! They adopted him out of love for the baby. Now some may raise the whole gay issue. But I applaud them for taking that baby out of a drug infested, domestic violence, unstable home! just MO.

That’s really good for Ne-Yo. I commend him for stepping up to the plate. The same was done for my dad when he was young, and I consider the man that raised my father my grandaddy. We need more men to step up like that.

I never watched Grey’s so who cares? LOL

Akon is a dumb ass.

SMH @ ISAIAH “I DIDN’T CALL T.R. A FAG” WASHINGTON IF HE DIDN’T THINK HE WAS GETTIN CANNED HE’S GOT SHIT BETWEEN HIS EARS.

Allow me to give you a scenario about getting involved with women who have children from prior relationships
* NOTE: I’m NOT stating that there is anything wrong with this scenario, I’m just stating that men need to consider all the ramifications.

Without getting into particulars, I had a cousin who had hooked up with this chick who had 5 kids from a prior relations (three of kids had different father, if that matters).

Anyway He (my cousin) falls in love with this chick, and as a result started to have feeling for her kids.

He starts to take care of her kids (financially) and they started to call him daddy….

The chick was a shiesty type of chick
* I think you youngins refer to a person like her as a “jump off”.

Anyways, it wasn’t long before the chick decided to resume her cheating ways, and my cousin busted her with different dudes a couple of time (what can I say about my cousin except that He’s not the brightest guy in the world, but he DOES have a good heart).

The problem:
The Five kids have become SO attached to him.
EVEN though him and the chick are not together anymore,
The kids STILL call him on his cellular, asking to see him, hang out with him, etc, etc.

My Point:
A Lot of woman mistake kindness for weakness, so BLACK MEN be VERY CAREFUL when deciding to take care of your woman’s children (if they kids are not biologically yours).

Not to mention the OTHER issues that are very relevent:
The Child REAL father - What/How is the child relationship with their father, and how do YOU (the man) fit into the equation ?

How does the child’s REAL (Biological) father feel about you disicipling HIS child ???

How does the child’s REAL (Biological) father feel about you having sex with his baby’s mother.

It’s a real world out there, and these are REAL issue that a Black Man must think about when dealing with a woman who has children from a previous relationship

Peace

Bill, again my brotha, I co-sign!
Kids to grow attatched to you!
My brother’s son is like my son, the ONLY reason he is not still in my home is because he missed his mom. He graduates next year. When my brother was hustling on the streets, I had my own baby, his baby was with me. A single mom (teenaged) with two jobs NOT on welfare! Thank God for my baby’s granny, RIP mama Burta, she helped me with both those kids. My nephew is 3 months older than my daughter. My nephew went back to dc when he was 3 and came back to me when he was 11. thats when my brother went in. Now this kid graduates next year and wants to come back. Do I say no? Senior is VERY expensive. My own child graduates next year! Do I say no? ABSOLUTELY NOT! He needs me! And I will be there for him! Not out of love for my brother, his daddy, but out of love and committment to my nephew! Do I expect to be congratulated? NOPE! I am his auntie and I have loved him since the day he was born! He will go to college! ( I taught him how to read! He was 2-3) He will NOT go to jail/ prison or the military! My Congratulations/pat on the back will be to see him successful and happy!

Bill I agree I treat my BFFkids like I would my own kids. Altough I don’t want any myself.

I agree BILL with your post (#131).
I have no children, but I definitely agree 100%.

I felt the same way about bringing boyfriends around my sisters & brothers. (One’s 19 now, the other is 17..and my adopted brother/cousin is 8). We have no older brothers, and we don’t get along with our father. They got so attached to my ex, I think they were more upset about the break up, than I was.

My sister was devastated she lost her older brother…My brother was like 5 when this happened…when RJ stopped coming around, he asked “why RJ doesn’t love us anymore.” It broke my heart & broke me down.

It’s a sticky situation & involving children even stickier.

So I feel you on that.

I thought you were suspose to get rashes in prison!

Mika, how Chimere’s mom gone be around all Ne-Yo millions and not get some? I caution women to keep an eye on any man who wants to have a special relationship with a child that’s not theirs! Not saying Ne-Yo is Michael Jackson or R., but don’t take your eye off your baby!

Ne-yo looks like he ready to embrace, cuddle and kiss on little Chimere! Why? If he wants to step up to the “plate”, let him marry her and really give the child a father! Then we can stop trying to guess if he’s really “kind-hearted” or the pappy derivative!

Volunteer Dads of America!

on Friday, June 8, 2007 @ 11:41 am

121. oatsuzn said:
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@116

With the introduction of programs like child support, welfare and section 8, the government changed our communities viewpoint on children, not our men.

Before those programs were instituted, having children out of wedlock was looked down apon not it’s basically celebrated. Women are having children left and right without any responsibility or remorse because it has become a sort of income to live off of. Section encourages women to live on their own. The child support system is soo baised. I know plenty of my friends who have unfairly caught the short end of that program, that it just disgusts me. I refuse to have a child with a woman out of wedlock after seeing what the female biased court system can do.

So do I see illegitimate children as another bill? Until I decide that I want to have children, yes I do.

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Nikki said:

PLEASE LET ME HELP YOU! fIRST IF A WOAMN HAS A CHILD FROM A MAN THAT SHE HAS TO PUT ON CHILD SUPPORT, THEN MOST TIMES HE AINT BALLIN! WITH THAT BEING SAID HE PROBABLY HAS MORE THAN ONE SUPPORT ORDER, AND HAS A LOW OR MEDIUM PAYING JOB! WHICH WOULD AMOUNT TO A LIL’ BIT OF CHILD SUPPORT! MAYBE 50 DOLLARS A WEEK!
LETS JUST SAY FOR ARGUEMENTS SAKE SHE HAS 4 SUCH BABY DADDIES. AND FOUR GROWING HUNGRY CHILDREN. IF THE BABY DADDIES PAY AND STAY CURRENT SHE HAS AN “INCOME” OF TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS WEEKLY! AND FOR UR ARGUMENT WE WILL GIVE HER SECTION 8. SO RENT MAY BE 100 MONTHLY.
SO THAT LEAVES 175 WEEKLY. LIGHTS MAY BE 100 MONTHLY. THAT LEAVES 150 WEEKLY. SHE HAS WATER BILL 75.00 MONTHLY. THAT LEAVES ROUGHLY 131.00 WEEKLY THE 4 CHILDREN NEED TO BE TRANSPORTED, CLOTHED AND FED. ALLL THAT OFF 500 A MONTH! u TRY RAISING FOR KIDS OFF 500 A MONTH! LIL POOKIE NEEDS SHOES, RAYRAY NEEDS BRACES, MANMAN HAS FOOTBALL, AND SHAYSHAY NEEDS A TUTOR CUZ SHE CANT READ THAT WELL! CHILD SUPPORT IS NOT A “FINANCIAL OPPORTUNITY”! aND THIS COMES FROM A WOMAN THAT HAS A 17 YEAR AND HAS NEVER GONE TO THE MAN ON HER FATHER. MY CHILD IS ACTIVE IN SPORTS, HAS HAD A BROKEN LEG THAT REQUIRED SURGERY AND 9 MONTHS OF THERAPY THAT INSURANCE DID NOT COVER. HAS HAD HER TEETH IN BRACES AND RETAINERS TWICE. SO I KNOW ABOUT THE COST OF RAISING A CHILD.

#131 said:

How does the child’s REAL (Biological) father feel about you disicipling HIS child ???

How does the child’s REAL (Biological) father feel about you having sex with his baby’s mother.
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Are you serious???!!!!

Those are two questions that should not even be asked - IF THE FATHER IS A LOSER! In the case of Ne-yo that is exactly what happened.

I really hope you were joking about the last question, b/c the BIOLOGICAL father would/should never have a say in who the mother chooses lay down with. If he chose not to stick around to take care of “HIS CHILD” in the first place.

If that were the case, then the issue of a “step” would not be an issue at all.

Holla if you hear me!

@131 Bill

5 kids??? LOL 5 kids? I don’t even date women with 1 kid, let alone 5. Man if I meet a woman with 5 kids, I am doing an about face and running the hell outta there!! hahaha

How do u fall in love with a woman that has 5 kids from 3 different dudes??? What kind of thing is that? People, there is such a thing as a “bad woman”. I know Oprah and Tyra would have u think otherwise, but not all women are good.

I feel sorry for your cousin because he obviously felt he didn’t have any other options. It’s sad that some men have to stoop so low. We as men need to keep our standards high and the women will follow.

That’s not his real son?
Damn, that’s so unheard of nowadays.
Good for him

I feel like any man who steps up to have a positive influence on a child’s life should be commended, whether it be an uncle, stepdad, grandfather or ex-boyfriend.

It’s easy for someone to say “she’s out for money” or “he’s stupid” ESPECIALLY if you have no children. I hope that when you do, your partner remains committed to the responsibility of a raising and providing for a child.

Let’s be real though, some men will walk away from their own child and never look back. Does the child deserve that? NO And if someone is willing to pick that up and give that child the advantage of having 2 parents, what’s wrong with that? Nothing IMO

As far as Paris, I’m not suprised I figured she’d pull something like this. But house arrest? That judge needs to be demoted asap.

#30 you dead wrong.

Hey CL Family!!!!!!! Sha-Sha, whaddup Ma, you still got me rolling with the “skydiver” comment. LMAO

WHY IS IT if you critique Tyler Perry black people act as if you’re selling out or hatin’ on a brotha doing his thang?

Just because he’s talented (no question), and the messages in his work are supposed to be positive (though stereotypical), and he’s made a ton of money (by catering to church folk and lonely black women), anyone that challenges whether or not his films and plays are the new minstrels are accused of “whitewashing” his material. Looking only to compare his comedy to that of white counterparts.

Aren’t we missing the point? The question we should be asking is how truly funny, creative, and innovative is Tyler Perry. And do we go on excepting that black or urban comedy doesn’t have to be groundbreaking and original. That actually challenging the comedy generated from “the hood” is like expecting Flava Flav to become articulate. What is so wrong in expecting more from our talents?

Let me give you an example. I’m sure we all agree rap music is not what it used to be. One of the main issues concerning the hip-hop community when it first reached popularity was not selling out. Not forgetting that the art came first and commerce came only as a result of the art. Now it’s become the total opposite. Money is the ONLY theme and the art isn’t even a factor. Sure, there are a few that try their best to hold it down but even Young Jeezy claims he’s not a hip-hopper. He says he’s only a street hustler turned rapper who’s basically benefiting from the trailblazers of the art form. That’s like BET’s ComicView comedians saying they know nothing about Richard Pryor, they’re just trying to make a come up. Art becomes second or null and void, making money the primary objective.

Though I don’t in any way feel Tyler Perry’s only motivation is “getting paid”, I do believe he has sacrificed some of the art for what a community of people have settled for. It is tricky critiquing a man I am actually proud of mostly because so many of you support his work unflinchingly. But a man with his success has to be prepared to be called out about the quality of his entertainment and how it impacts his audience.

We seem to get too hung up on what’s positive as opposed to what’s genuinely well-done. But what’s so positive about two dimensional stories with no complete substance? The metro-sexual looking hard working black man who saves the strong (or weak) attractive black woman from either the bourgeoisie abusive husband or the thugged out drug dealer. Then of course we have the elder who preaches how we’ve got to get things back to how they used to be back in the day. Topped off with the comic relief of the over the top, gun toting, weed smoking Madea who puts everyone in their place. It’s so formulaic you know the ending half way thru the story.

Face it black people, we have settled for what we define as entertainment. No one’s saying he has to be the next Judd Apatow (the cat who wrote “The 40 Year Old Virgin”), or the Farralley Brothers (the guys who wrote “Something About Mary”) or even Chris Rock. But when will we be more receptive to humor that expands outside the realm of stereotypes? Dave Chapelle seemed to do it with no effort whatsoever and WE GOT IT! Intelligent, highbrow humor that dealt with our racial concerns but managed to do it creatively while staying innovative. It’s all about balance. If there were more Dave Chappelle’s out here there’d be no need to debate it. But unfortunately “Norbit”, “Big Mama’s House”, and Madea seem to be the only way of getting us to the box office. Do you watch “Everybody Hates Chris” (which is very good) or we’re you counting down to Tyler’s “House Of Payne”? “The Bernie Mac Show” or “All Of Us”? Did you know a sister created the hit show “Grey’s Anatomy”? Creative black comedy or the same-ole, same-ole?

This commentary is not to bash Tyler for doing what he knows best while generating quite a fortune doing so. I’m just an arm chair quarterback with another opinion out here. But I do know that if we don’t start thinking outside the box we will continue to stunt the growth of future generations of comedic writers and comedians. It applies not only to entertainment but to everything we excel in. So the next time someone black says they don’t feel Tyler Perry all that much, instead of getting on your soap box for coming down on the brother, listen to what they mean. They’re really looking for the growth in an obvious comedic talent that will not only benefit his artistic future, but ours as well.

Love ya Tyler, for real…..just step ya game up yo.

prof

(and oh, “House Of Payne” is HORRIFIC! lol. sorry….)

and peep this,

http://blackademics.org/2...coonery-or-black-theatre/

I dunno Nikki sis. My aunt gets $800 a month in child support for her son and that’s her ONLY child.

The problem with child support these days, is that (I believe) it goes by a man’s income. A large number of men being hit up for support are living large aka BALLIN!, but don’t have the stubs to validate that (if you know what I mean.)

I also know A LOT of people who cheat the systems too. Being supported by their drug dealing boyfriends, but still get approved for low-income housing & checks from the state every month, because the only household income on record is the chick working part-time at McDonald’s.

Stevie Wonder could see that Isaih Washington’s stupid ass was going to get fired. When you’re lukewarm you get spit out. You can’t attack homosexuals and then beg them for forgiveness. It doesn’t work like that. You really shouldn’t attack anyone and then beg them for forgiveness because you shouldn’t put your hands on someone unless it’s their life or yours. Then he said what he said and bitched up. Nobody respects a man that doesn’t stick to his guns, not even Satan. He couldn’t find anything more pointed and articulate to say than, “I’m mad as hell.” If he’s mad it’s because he realized that he got played. The Gay Mafia made him run the gauntlet and still gave him his walking papers, and it’s not a surprise at all.

This society is rapidly moving towards an atmosphere where what was once “alternative” is now mainstream and all those that hold on to any type of morality or truthful belief in God will either have to keep it to themselves or go out like a soldier. There is no more freedom of speech. It’s subjective now.

@85

It’s funny that you would give Ne-yo more credit for helping the Africans than him helping a black American. I only say that because I notice that black people love to jump on the African bandwagon as if black people here in America are in the mental, spiritual, or financial condition to help anyone, lol. Moreover, black Americans love to speak about Africans as if the Africans are better than American blacks.

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#131 said:

How does the child’s REAL (Biological) father feel about you disicipling HIS child ???

How does the child’s REAL (Biological) father feel about you having sex with his baby’s mother.
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Are you serious???!!!!

Those are two questions that should not even be asked - IF THE FATHER IS A LOSER! In the case of Ne-yo that is exactly what happened.

I really hope you were joking about the last question, b/c the BIOLOGICAL father would/should never have a say in who the mother chooses lay down with. If he chose not to stick around to take care of “HIS CHILD” in the first place.

If that were the case, then the issue of a “step” would not be an issue at all.

Holla if you hear me!

Bill Said:

DDS,

Because I got married so young, I was spared a lot hurt & heartache.

Being a Sociologist, I take the time to observe situations and people.

Being a Man, I know how men feel.

Scenario:
If a man breaks up with a woman, then sees His woman with another man, he will usually become heated.
ESPECIALLY
if his child is involved.

Here’s Why:
The man who is no longer with the woman is paying child support.
He may also be paying for a divorce settlement.
NOW…
He’s (the man, the orginal husband) is out of the house, but yet he is still paying the bills IN the house he no longer lives in (remember he paying child support & a divorce settlement…If they purchased the house together, and divorced, guess who retains custody of the house & the child..The WOMAN).

Now, because of that, there will be a tad bit of anger and possibly resentment on the man’s part.

Now the man’s ex wife becomes involved with another man.
That man is now sexing the woman, and has taking that Man’s child as his step child.

The First Husband is going to have a lot of pent up (angry) emothions, because now he has lost his wife to this other dude, they are sexing in the house that he is paying the mortgage on, and the child that he has raised and is paying child support for is now calling someone else daddy.

* I’m familiar with all of this, because this exact scenario has happen to a few of my Frat brothers

DDS, repsectfully, do you NOW understand why whis would make a brother (A Black man) upset.

Peace,
Your Brother
Bill

House of Payne: Won’t last without Madea
Issiah Washington: Das f*&ked up, but reality bites
Ne-Yo: Gay
Akon: You can’t jus be throwin’ peeps off the stage man, if it was real he should be punished

140. jewel13 said: “…I feel like any man who steps up to have a positive influence on a child’s life should be commended, whether it be an uncle, stepdad, grandfather or ex-boyfriend.”

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So, you’d have to commend Michael Jackson too, for welcoming all those children to Never Neverland! Listen, Ne-Yo ain’t got time to spend with no children! He’s an entertainer! They don’t do well with crumbsnatchers pulling on their coat tails!

They can pay for the best nannies, but don’t expect them to spend a lot of quality time unless there’s a alterior motive!

And, while it’s true that “some men will walk away from their own child and never look back” it is also true that some women give them no choice! Angel said the biological father “failed to stick around”! I need more details before I call him a deadbeat!

I know a lot of you single moms see this as a wonderful blessing from God on high, but this could be another ploy filled with smoke and mirrors! Celebrities do all kinds of ish for publicity!

And, please don’t y’all forget one thing…Ne-Yo is a freaky “DAWG” without tags! Gay niggas know how to burn holes in the hearts of the weak and desperate! I’m sorry, y’all, but Chimere’s mom need to go back and read the transcripts from MJs trial!

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@131 Bill

5 kids??? LOL 5 kids? I don’t even date women with 1 kid, let alone 5. Man if I meet a woman with 5 kids, I am doing an about face and running the hell outta there!! hahaha

How do u fall in love with a woman that has 5 kids from 3 different dudes??? What kind of thing is that? People, there is such a thing as a “bad woman”. I know Oprah and Tyra would have u think otherwise, but not all women are good.

I feel sorry for your cousin because he obviously felt he didn’t have any other options. It’s sad that some men have to stoop so low. We as men need to keep our standards high and the women will follow.

Bill Said:
Oatsun,
When you get a chance, watch this:

Vagina Power and Penis Power
Alexyss Tylor hosts show on ‘Vagina Power ‘and ‘Penis Power’ with her mother. Found on Public Access TV 9 pm on a Wednesday. Yay for Public Access TV!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bqg_ceFM30I

Warning:Not Suitable for work !!

Turn your speakers down REAL low !!!!
She says some very wild, raw & TRUTHFUL things.
A lot of woman won’tbe ableto deal with what she has to say, but she is telling the truth !!

Anyways, my point is this:
* Some woman know how powerful their vagina is, and how to make men go crazy…

My cousin told me that this chick sex gamee sex was incredible, and that he NEVER nutted (had an orgasim) like that since…

Sometimes, my brother, when you find a woman that know how to put her legs on top of your shoulder, scream & moan you name, it will make you lose your mind.

You feel me ???

* I hope this doesn’t offend anyone.
It’s just real talk from real people, doing real things

Peace

House of Payne seemed like a cheap play. He just called back a few people from his play and said “hey wanna be in my show”?. Theatre actors are usually taught to overdo it… and that doesn’t work out for tv.
While i’m happy that Ne-Yo stepped in… the son was the only thing keeping me from think he was totally gay.

Isaiah should get realll black and whoop some tail.

Akon is Satan’s sidelick

House of Payne seemed like a cheap play. He just called back a few people from his play and said “hey wanna be in my show”?. Theatre actors are usually taught to overdo it… and that doesn’t work out for tv.
While i’m happy that Ne-Yo stepped in… the son was the only thing keeping me from think he was totally gay.

Isaiah should get realll black and whoop some tail.

Akon is Satan’s sidekick

@BILL 131
nOW THAT CHICK WAS NASTY! NOT BECAUSE OF THE BABIES AND ALL. BUT THE WAY SHE TREATED HIM. AND NOW HER BABIES ARE HURTIN! IMO SHE SHOULDVE HAVE NOT LET THEM BABIES CALL HIM DADDY UNTIL
1. THEY SAID “I DO”
2. THE CHILDREN, THE BIO DAD AND THE STEP DAD ARE COMFORTABLE.