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GLAMOUR MAGAZINE EDITOR IGNITES DEBATE

Wednesday, August 29, 2007

Wow I was really out of the “loop” on this story that has been stirring debate on the web for the past week & a half. Apparently, an editor at Glamour Magazine recently stuck her foot in her mouth while giving a presentation on the dos and don’ts of ‘corporate fashion’ at a New York law firm.

According to August issue of American Lawyer magazine:

First slide up: an African American woman sporting an Afro. A real no-no, announced the ‘Glamour’ editor to the 40 or so lawyers in the room. As for dreadlocks: How truly dreadful! The style maven said it was ’shocking’ that some people still think it ‘appropriate’ to wear those hairstyles at the office. ‘No offense,’ she sniffed, but those ‘political’ hairstyles really have to go. [SOURCE]

Due to the heat the blogworld has been giving the story, Glamour Magazine couldn’t keep quiet on this one. They released a statement to the American Lawyer via email:

In an e-mail statement to The American Lawyer, the fashion magazine repudiated the beauty advice, and characterized the editor as a “junior staffer” who spoke “without her supervisor’s knowledge or approval.” Moreover, the statement said that Glamour has a “longstanding commitment to inclusion and diversity.” [SOURCE]

Many black lawyers have announced that they would never buy another Glamour Magazine again. What’s your take on this issue?

Also, I recommend that you read the great write up our friend Patrice over at Afrobella.com wrote about the issue.

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151.

BAMBAM

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

@ 147 & 148 - thanks!

152.

twintron4

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

And I can GUARANTEE you that the person who said these comments is Black. Only we would make such hateful comments.

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JUDAH

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

@150

Right, but that’s why negroes feelings get hurt when articles like this come out. I have respect for black people that acknowledge the situation that black people are in, do what they have to do to achieve in this society and help their people. If they can’t help their own, then at least live right for yourself and those close to you. That’s all any man or woman can do or should be expected to do. What makes me laugh though are these, “change the game” people. You’re not changing a damn thing. If it was going to change, it would have changed already. To “change the game”, or change anything else, it has to start from the top, not the bottom. Negroes act like the people in power in preeminence just sit back and let things happen.

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shannon75

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

BamBam
That’s the whole point BamBam. When we are asked to compromise something so trivial as our hair texture when what should matter is our job performance and work ethics-then what else will we have to compromise in the future? Our eye color? Our skin color?

Choosing proper work attire is something entirely different compared to telling someone that a part of their PHYSICAL BODY is unacceptable. Would a person who’s legs had to be amputated be told by his boss that his wheelchair is a distraction and would have to use prostetic legs instead? Hell no! (big law suit there) Why should we be told which texture of hair is right for our jobs?

155.

ms_mac

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

115. Sherlie:
House negros boi I tell you. I’m in the process of growing out my natural hair now. I’m tired of perms. I’m black, my hairstyles should suggest such anyway! Why do we have to fit a certain white standard of beauty. I’ll be damed if I can’t wear braids at the office! You can force someone to straighten their hair. Ol gurl needs a reality check, she obviously has not picked up a copy of Esscence or Ebony. Cause black beauty isn’t all about pressed locks and and light skin gurlie (a real black woman would know this) we need to stop letting media dictate our concept of self. The “beauty supply” who says were not beautiful in the first place. Girl needs a reality check. Go watch the Tyra show lady.

_____

Um Sherlie, I see what you’re trying to say but the last place I would direct anyone about getting a reality check is the Tyra Banks show. lol. There are just too many reasons why that statement alone is just wrong, wrong, wrong! lol. Tyra hasn’t been a “natural” beauty since she was in the 3rd grade. That girl stays in a lacefront and heavy makeup and she epitomizes the black-beauty-turned-out-by-the-white-man’s-beauty standards. I know she’s always chirping about “loving yourself” for who you are but I never quite got how someone who always talks about keeping it real looks and comes off so fake.

156.

It kind of makes sense

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

Being a black lawyer I can understand the reasoning behind this. Don’t get me wrong, the woman was acting straight-up foolish when she made these remarks, however, dreadlocks are really not professional (especially on a man.) It’s no different than a white man having long hair or a mohawk. I don’t believe that the woman was insinuating that we all have to have our hair faded or straightened, just that certain looks don’t exude a professional aura.

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aijuswannasay

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

WAKE THE *UCK UP BLACK FOLKS….HOW MANY MAINSTREAM MAGS (NOT ESSENCE, EBONY OR JET) ACTUALLY FEATURE A BLACK WOMAN W/ NATURAL HAIR OR A NATURAL STYLE??? THIS *HIT AINT NOTHIN NEW!!! ESPECIALLY TO THOSE WHO READ VOGUE, ELLE, IN STYLE AND ALL THAT OTHER *HIT THAT ALMOST NEVER FEATURES A BLACK WOMAN ON THE COVER PERIOD!!!

& ANYBODY WHO DOES NOT SEE THE RACISM IN SOMEONE TRYING TO CHANGE THE NATURAL STATE OF BLACK FOLKS NEED A REALITY CHECK!!!! IGNANT *UCKS!!!

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Tammy

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

*frustrated now* Im Lmao though at the Hot&Gold hair weave ad above .

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Shaquana

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

As a young black woman I have grow my locs for 13 years. Over the years, I have put a great deal of time and money into keeping them groomed and beautiful. I have never had a difficult time getting a job and have worked in diverse settings including corporate.

We are increasingly becoming a global world marketplace. Our differences should be valued and more and more we will be working along side people who look differently from us. If a black woman or man wants to wear their hair natural they should not be judged by anyone white or black for that. And it doesn’t necessarily have to hold us back. Both Oprah and Obama were once criticized for their names because they were different. I don’t think too many people would say Oprah’s name held her back! People have recommended that I change my name on my resume, I won’t do it and I won’t change my hair for a job. Especially nowadays when the person or company you are working for could be gone tomorrow. Be yourself and Be proud, there is a reason why we don’t all have straight hair.

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DatOne

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

I have locs, and I definetly have no plans on cutting them for a job. I was worried about it at first since I am in college and was worried about getting a job afterwards, but I’m not going to change myself to make someone else feel comfotable. It’s deeper than all that.

Furthermore, I was offered a job with Hewlett-Packard during my freshmen year of college WITH MY LOCS, and if anything they embraced the fact that I brought diversity to the atmosphere. Also, as I met with more black executives within the company, I noticed that natural hair was the norm, not the minority. So obviously anyone who has a permanent minset about the negativity of locs is close-minded and sheltered. Maybe they’ve never seen how good NEATLY KEPT locs look, or maybe they’ve never actually took a chance to observe a lot of people of African descent who have already climbed the corporate ladder… trust me you’ll find a lot of naps, kinks, locs, and ‘fros

Aggie Pride

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ms_mac

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

I have a question for the people that advocate natural hair over “unnatural” hair. And this is really not to spark debate. I really just want some intelligent insight because this is a fascinating subject to me.

If every woman ceased wearing weaves, press-n-curls, relaxers or any other altering style, what would that accomplish for Black people as a whole and what statement would that make to the world (in your eyes)? And besides setting a tone of defiance against the “European beauty standard,” what more would we accomplish by going natural than staying where we are now (rocking a variety of styles)? In your opinion, would that help to reshape our mentality and make it different from how it’s been in the past? I guess I’m really asking if you think wearing natural hair in corporate America or elsewhere would be a catalyst of some sort or spark some type of movement?

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BAMBAM

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

@154

Very valid point. I guess I should clarify - I’m only stating what the reality of WHAT I FEEL the situation is. Therefore, it is just an opinion, as is yours. I did not and hope that my post did not imply that the way things are was right. Some of us simply choose different strategies for navigating our way and I don’t expect all to agree.

Please do what is right for you.

As for myself, I’ll sidestep all the pseudo-poseur-prostelytizing that’s sure to take place here today.

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PurpleZoe

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

Without issuing a formal apology, and punishing the offender who works for them, Glamour will never again get my business either. I’ll spread the word as well. This is ridiculous, but we need to see what’s really going on in the minds of some folks regarding our Afrocentricity…This way, less illusions.

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julieisadime

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

Thank you BamBam, very informative.

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shawnti77

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

@ 54 what exactly is “good hair”? its comments like that that seem to separate us

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blessedone

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

Oh goodness, I have so much to say…

First, the person who made this comments is ignorant for repeating something that is unfortunately taught to every American (black, white, yellow, red, etc).

Second, I attended and HBCU. During my junior year, I decided to go natural. My senior year I wore kinky twists for most of the year (I like braids). The chair of my department (Business and Accounting) told me that I needed to take my braids out before I went on interviews. She was really pushing for me to work for one of the top 4 accounting firms. I refused, and I guess that’s why I work for the government now…lol. Anyway, I told her that if they didn’t want to hire me because of my hair, then it wasn’t meant for me to get the job. It’s wrong for the business schools to try to force students to conform.

Third, there was a comment about how straightening your hair is not keeping it natural, etc. Ok, I still go to the hair dresser and get the good ol press and curl twice a year, or so. However, when the mood strikes, I’ll rock my fro, braids, weave, or whatever else suits my fancy. That doesn’t make me any less black. I just like variety. I’ve very proud of my heritage. If I wasn’t, I wouldn’t still have natural hair. It’s never been a problem at work. My boss just likes to joke about my “38″ different hair styles.

I’m not going to get all political and black power, because my beef isn’t with anyone on CL. There will always be ignorance and intolerance in this world. JUST DO YOU!

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shannon75

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

Ms_Mac
When I saw that question the first thought that crossed my mind was the 70’s movement where black pride was all the rage. It seemed back then that communities of color were united more than ever and along with HAIR pride, we had a very strong sense of cultural pride as black Americans. We had OUR own set of Positive Values that didn’t have to be taught to us or borrowed from mainstream America. There was of course opposition and prejudice thrown at us but back then it seemed like we were much more willing to fight back and show our children what it meant to not loose your identity. I guess this topic here kind of addresses that alittle.

I don’t know what happened to us since then.

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julieisadime

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

#159, Shaquana

I don’t think anyone said that your name can hold you back, just makes it harder for you to get in the door, I don’t know if you know how Oprah got started, but a white man gave her her shot and she blew it up and fliped it on they asses.

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J.Y

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

I think what she may not been what people wanted to hear but it very true in today’s society. And instead of getting mad at the writer, editor and magaizne for publishing the truth we should ask ourselves why our society is so judgement on hairstyles especially in the black community. Most of the people who wrote negative comments about the article really need to look in the mirror and examine what they feel and think as a person. I hardly believe in a young black male came in your place of work with braids or in a long fro you would even consider hiring him. This society cares about the wrongs things, instead of work ethic, ability, talent, dependablitiy, we care about apperance and decievement.

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Fudge

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

Point blank we still stuck in that slave mentallity(some), lets start our own companies and makes our own rules!!!!!!!!!!

171.

MONI4

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GOD!

I AM SOOOO SICK OF US (BLACK WOMEN) HAVING TO CHOOSE BETWEEN WORLDS.

its a sad fact of life (i guess thats why they say life is not fair) that we mush choose between losing job opportunities that could potentially genearte alot of money on our communities that we sooo need AND conforming to how FUCKING CRACKERS want us to appear as a prototype of them that we will never truly embody since THAT IS UNATURAL!

We are the only people who have to go throught this type pf scrutiny when it comes to getting jobs.

YES its true that we will be judged harshly if we choose to rock a look that reflects OUR CULTURE but does that mean we have to accept it? I aggree with one of he earlier posts that said “We cannot expect change to happen if we continue to accept what we are given” or something to that effect.

Theres no solution to this unless we ALL (every black person) makes a pact to only work for companies that do value diversity or we all only work ar black owned businesses and START OUR OWN SHIT!

I love GLAMOUR though! I actually wanted to apply for a job there since i want to be an editor. I don’t think I am going to hold the entire mag responsible for what one junior editor thinks. Glamour just needs to get it together and begin vigorous diversity training ASAP. Oh yeah, and FIRE THAT DUMB CRACKER BITCH!

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JUDAH

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

@167

That’s when the government designed and implemented the crack epidemic under George Bush Sr. and the CIA and the black community hasn’t been the same since then.

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GoDivaKai

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

Many of you made great points ! Heres my opinion. Glamour magazine has never really been a magazine targeted at black people.Lets be real. Their target reader group would include white or rather non black women.Although many black women may read the magazine, they should be aware that its actually not geared towards them.
While the comments made by this editor were very disappointing especially in the year 2007,I cant say that I’m totally shocked. Those comments mirror what most of non black corporate America and even some of our own people think about black people who choose to wear more natural hairstyles like afros,twists and locks.
Whether they openly state it or not ,many think it. They always want our people to conform to a style that is more comfortable for them,ya know less intimidating.
Those who walk the straight and narrow and play the role are more likely to move ahead.Is this good? NO because I take offense to them referring to locks,twists and braids that areneat and presentable as “too ethnic” . As in too black? Arent we black? Certainly they cant think that every black person that they see with long straight hair has that texture naturally. Many acheive it through perms, relaxers, dye,weave,etc. When you ask someone to alter who they are because you are uncomfortable with it than you have issues that perhaps you need to address and work on.
I also agree with those who stated that sometimes we are our own worse enemy.Its true. I have seen black folks give other black folks (and yes Im black) more slack openly than any other race for choosing to wear their hair in its natural state. Its like some of our peopel are conditioned to view natural hair as bad or ugly .Soem of our people dont want to be reminded of how their own hair looks or looked in its natural state because they have been wearing those weaves and relaxers for so long that they now think that this is their hair,lol. Dont think I;m judging ,because Im not.I too have colored ,relaxed, braided ,weaved my own hair but I havent forgotten who I am ,nor do I put down those who choose to wear theirnatural texture. I go back to mine every so often,just happen to like variety so I experiment.

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GoDivaKai

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

I also dont think that the powers over at Glamour would be trying to justify or recant the editiors comments if there hadnt been such an outcry fro the offended members of African American society! Now the want to make excuses,They knwo d*amn well that more likely than not they agree with that editors comments. Please,but whatever I dont read their f*cking magazine anyway.Its does not reflect who I am.

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BAMBAM

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

And as far as hairstyles go, at times I’ve read 100+ comments here about the state of some BLACK entertainers’ beat weave or lacefront. So WTF?

Again, not that what that editor said was right, but we as blacks are sometimes so hyper-critical OF EACH OTHER, on the most TRIVIAL aspects of our culture, yet when intelligent dialogue is opened about an issue that requires one to look at the big picture in terms of race and consequence, it becomes a question of style over substance.

For the recond I don’t consider ANYONE here more proud of my race and heritage than I, and to those who feel strongly about how they project themselves as far as their heritage, I think it’s a beautiful thing.

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BashyBoo

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

LMAOOO#130 I LOVE IT! GO HEAD!!

WELL PUT # 129 LMAOO BAMBAM I NEED ONE TOO!

IM LOVING ALL THE FEEDBACK ON THIS SITE TODAY…YALL ARE THE BEST

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aijuswannasay

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

# 172 JUDAH, YOU CAN REALLY GO BACK FURTHER TO THE REAGAN ERA… HE CUT OUT A LOT OF SOCIAL PROGRAMS THAT LOW INCOME FAMILIES DEPENDED ON AND IN THE 80′S IS WHEN CRACK JUMPED OFF HARD

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doll-face

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

She is so wrong those hair styles in my opinion where never political! Its all about style or taste it never had to do with proving a point I’ve never heard someone say that they are getting locks to prove a point it was more for the comfort, self pride, and just low maintenace of those hair styles! Stupid!

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JUDAH

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

@177

Yes brother/sis, that’s what I was referring to. That’s why I mentioned George Bush Sr.’s tenure as head of the CIA from the 60’s up through the 80’s. The man still led the damn CIA even though he was vice president and then president. They designed that crack epidemic and it worked beautifully.

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BAMBAM

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

And full disclosure - Since I am a male and wear a simple ceasar cut at all times, I’ll have to also admit that I won’t have as much of hair issue as the sisters commenting here today.

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PHILMOOR

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

IM APPALED AT THE COMMENTS IVE BEEN READING FROM OUR SO CALLED “PEOPLE” IN REGARDS TO WEARING DREADS AND AFROS IN THEIR WORKPLACES. SINCE WHEN DID WEARING YOUR NATURAL HAIR BECOME UNACCEPTABLE?? ARE YOU SERIOUS?? ARE YOU NEGROES THAT LOST AND DEVOID OF YOUR CULTURE THAT YOU WOULD JUSTIFY THE RACIST STATETMENTS THAT WERE MADE BY THIS CAUCASIAN LADY?? IT BAFFLES ME THE LOST STATE OF OUR RACE , WE HAVE DEFINITELY LOST OUR IDENTITY AND WILL JUSTIFY ANYTHING THESE WHITE FOLKS SAY, SO I GUESS WEARING THOSE RIDICULOUS WEAVES AND STRAIGHTING YOUR HAIR IS CONSIDERED THE NORM??

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tellmewhy

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

113..Sorry you are having a bad day.. hope it gets better

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aijuswannasay

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

FIRST, I AM MALE…

OKAY, OKAY….I GOT YOU, THAT’S RIGHT HE WAS HEAD OF CIA. YEAH, THE TRAP WAS LAID AND WE STILL IN IT…

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Jasmine

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

Who ever this sister is must have that “curly hair” or maybe I’ll say “wavy hair”. First of all I have seen some dreds on people and they are absolutley GORGEOUS now its one thing to let them go and not getting them twisted when needed yes then i understand but….. Im so mad I don’t even know what to say….. I’ll say this it should be taking to the Supreme Court its just wrong to discriminate against someone because of hair I can see like someone said earlier about the mohawks, and different colors thats something else but our hair is kinky and not everyone’s hair can stand to get permed and colored all the time…. Im sorry if u dont understand but this really makes me sick

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tellmewhy

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

To 165.. If you have to ask, then you don’t have it…

My comment doesn’t separate “us”, it’s just the way folks get heated when some folks choose natural over relaxed or weaves or braids. Each person can say that have good hair when they are comfortable with what they have and not try to justify the term to please other black folks to feel accepted.

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shawnti77
Wednesday, August 29, 2007
@ 54 what exactly is “good hair”? its comments like that that seem to separate us

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JUDAH

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

He’s still head of the CIA. George Tenet and these other people were and are figureheads brother.

187.

The Most Intelligent Post I have read today is this one:

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

JUDAH said

“Honestly, the Glamour magazine article was very forthright. The job market from the interview and hiring practices all the way to the standards of promotion are based more on pychological evaluations than actual ability or aptitude. You have to be a good “team player”. The powers that be cannot risk a maverick that will infiltrate corporate America and actually be concerned about helping their own people. Standards have been set in America concerning facial hair and how one wears their hair because the mainstream associates those things with a mentality. That’s why the magazine editor said that “those POLITICAL hairstyles have to go”, lol. When caucasians see a negro in the workplace with an afro, dreadlocks, or cornrows, they may get offended, they may not, but they certainly make a mental note. Even looking at the war against Islam, the media is trying to get the American populace to associate beards with terroristic activity. To me what alot of black people don’t grasp is that America is not a melting pot, it’s a caucasian country with other races living amongst whites who have to assimilate as quickly as possible to “succeed”.”

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foxxy380

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

LOL @ everyone who is shocked because of that statement. What she is saying is absolutely correct! Most of the “big firms” feel the exact same way. I knew this when I was just 17 years old. If you don’t like it, don’t work for them. Start your own business/firm and make your own rules. Simple as that.

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melissa

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

Let’s stop and think for a moment before we call for this woman’s head. Hello, there are black companies (BE comes to mind) where it is STRICTLY corporate. If your employer is old school, whether they be Black ,White, Yellow or Green, they don’t want you to wear your hair or clothes in a matter they feel is not representitive. You don’t have to work there. That’s just the way it is.

BTW-I’m a black female with an extremly short natural hair cut.

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JUDAH

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

@187

Brother/sis, thank you.

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Reya Star

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

I dont agree with that shes saying, because I honestly dont like to hear any negative comments white people have to say about our culture. But I do understand where she is coming from. White people are already slightly racist, especially in the corporate world. And by trying to stick with your ‘roots” you could limit yourself of a great position. What are we as black people going to do stay jobless forever untill we find an employer who is pro afro?? NO! Just press, weave up, or “whitie-fy” your hair to get the job, then go back to your roots once they hire you. They cant fire you over your hair, and if they do thats cause for a law suit. When in an interview you cant prove an employer is discriminating because of your hairstyles. I just think we as black people need to pick our battles. Maybe if your trynna to apply to mcdonalds ok sure keep your dreadz fro or whatever. But in a fortune 500 amongst all the other blue eyed extra priveledged white competition, do you really want to limit your chances based on hair? think about it!

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ms_mac

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

@ shannon75

So basically, the idea is that if we can form some sort of unity, even if it’s through something as simplistic as hair styling, then maybe we can get back that sense of community? I see. And I can agree to an extent but I think it’s a long shot because people today are more caught up in the material trappings, bling and keeping up with the Jones’, the white ones at that. Maybe if we had something to struggle for … but everything today comes so easily that nothing is worth fighting for.

And forget the idea about reviving the Black community. It’s every man, woman and child for themselves. Too few give a what about the next one and could care less. Individualism has replaced collectivism. And the idea of reforming our “culture”? Not gonna happen because we’ve been divided amongst ourselves and we’ve allowed outsiders to come into our proverbial heads and tell us that how to feel about ourselves. I could go on and on. But I guess that’s why this hair issue strikes home for so many and that’s why I asked the question.

I guess it’s a personal attack to tell a person, You ARE your hair. But I believe that’s called being bamboozled. And the people most adamant about keeping their hair natural are (in not so many vocal words) speaking out loudly against the status quo and what the man thinks we should be. I admire that. But again, how can people uplift and tear down at the same time? A person isn’t less interested in the struggle because they’ve gotten caught up. Maybe they are in the struggle to find a way out. That’s just my take on this whole natural versus relaxed stance. If we are all fighting for the same cause then why fight each other first?

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shannon75

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

Ms_Mac
Yes! I couldn’t have said it better, myself.

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African American need to know one thing:

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

African Americans need to know one thing.
Caucasians don’t like you, they simply tolerate you.

Once you understand and accept that fact, information like the what was presented above, will be a lot easier for YOU (as a African American) to understand.

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shannon75

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

Judah
Your right-when Bush Sr. came to have a position in the “White House”(80’s-90’s) everything went downhill for black people as far as drug use and crime. His son is no better either.

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Tammy

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

@ 194 Exactly

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ms_mac

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

African Americans need to know one thing.
Caucasians don’t like you, they simply tolerate you.

Once you understand and accept that fact, information like the what was presented above, will be a lot easier for YOU (as a African American) to understand.
—————————————

Truth speaks.

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WIPE ME DOWN

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

GLAMOUR WILL HAVE A BLACK WOMAN ON ITS NEXT COVER.

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twintron4

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

LOL @WIPE ME DOWN!
But #194 thats true. My momma told me before I went to my white high school, and it has stuck with me ever since. They don’t have to like you, but they will have to RESPECT you.

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iTs NENE

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

“HISTORY REPEATS ITS SELF”

“History repeats it’s self”

“history repeats its self”

do u see how repetitive that was but they all ment the same thing???
well, that indeed is the EXACT same way society is conducted! When Africans were brought over to America they HAD to just simply forget their only way of life they knew and adopt the so called safer white man’s culture. On coutless occassions, white ppl have forced, or subliminally hinted on forgetting our true ethinic roots, or traditons. And that’s what they want us to do now, just forget about where we came from…WHY SHOULD I????

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Sade-Your Love is King

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

Agree with #197. I dont see or feel the need to conform or assimilate to their so-called standards of beauty. I also agree with Twin tron. I decided to go natural about a year ago and my hair is now thick, full, and growing. Everybody is cheering me on except my sister who has a weave in her hair but like to tease me for going natural. I say this because after putting so much weave and relaxers in her hair, her is so thin, she is now afraid to wear her own hair. Damn shame. This is what happens when one cant accept what god has given them with pride and instead choose’s to listen to what is accepted by man.

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Miyoko

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

wow good topic. i gotta say this my hair is naturally very curly and its in a fro like what Kelis used to wear you can look at my myspace to see it, & i remember going to an interview and the lady looked at my hair kinda weird & i didnt get the job. I went back a year later for the same job, with my hair blown straight & i got the job. So this is totally true.

I dont agreee with this at all though, its Racist.

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sweetpea

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

white america is intimidated by anything african american that they do not understand and don’t want to understand. some years back this same thing happened to a woman who wore cornrows to work and she sued for discrimination.
If it wasn’t our hair it would be something else.

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foxxy380

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

@WIPE ME DOWN,

No not just any black woman. A black woman with an afro or dreadlocks. LOL

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2thru

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

She’d better stay her ignorant ass in the house. She is still stuck in that old ass “straight hair is better”-”good hair =straight hair & bad hair is everything but” time warp. I wish I could’ve been standing behind her when she said that dumb shyt so I could’ve tapped her on her shoulder and slapped the taste out of her mouth when she turned around. I guess now we can trade her & coon-da-nygga-rice when the Soul Race Trade comes to a town near you. I can’t wait for all the Hair & Barber stylists to get on her funky a**!!!!!!! Dumb Sellout a** broad!!!!!

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Hair Deva

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

How can wearing your hair in its “Natural Texture” be considered as making a political statement? Wearing your hair “Natural” is making an “I am created by GOD, and I love the way GOD created me” statement. There is a lot of ignorance in America even amongst “Black Folks”, so what we have to do is be persistent and patience about dis-spelling these myths and stereotypes. My customers are female and male they work in a variety of professions including law. However, I live in the Memphis in the heart of the bible belt where people profess a great love for Christ, but don’t want to look like him. (have wooly hair like him) I’m working on a book… Are You Programmed?, so we can understand why we have a dislike for our hair. It goes all the way back to Greta Garbo, Shirley Temple, Marilyn Monroe, Barbie and you know the rest. This society has taught all of us that the standard of beauty is white and blonde, and anything other than that is ugly. Once all Black women accept themselves the way GOD created them, (and our men love us that way) people can’t use how we wear our hair as a way to validate or not validate us.
Love, peace and hair grease!!!!!

207.

incognegro

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

I really find the author’s (of the Glamour magazine article) comments to be extremely archaic, myopic and offensive. I am currently employed one of the biggest financial investment firms in the world over, and I proudly rock my locs in the office everyday - in different styles, and I am considering coloring them. I believe that one could gauge a company’s ability to achieve by its willingness to accept change. This is not 1950 (our ancestors fought to ensure that), and last time I checked my locs did not pay for my college education or my intelligence - so it surely should not be a determining factor in any opportunity that was brought my way as a result of my intelligence. I understand, in the corporate world and in life, minorities have to play the game. We work twice as hard as our white counterparts, get half the credit, and have to play “agreeable minority” so as not to feed into the ignorant stereotype of blacks being volatile. I understand there will come a day when I will choose to cuts my locs off, but I hope that when the time comes, it will be on my terms and not the demands of the “good ole boys.” Thanks for reading.

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mic check 1,2,1,2

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

now everyone knows not 2 rock a auburn color mohawk, thats just not professional. however when u have locks, especially well maintained locks it really shouldn’t matter. i once had a teacher that wore locks and he was smart as hell, knowing 7 different languages. prejudgemnet is the worse

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mic check 1,2,1,2

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

now everyone knows not 2 rock a auburn color mohawk, thats just not professional. however when u have locks, especially well maintained locks it really shouldn’t matter. i once had a teacher that wore locks and he was smart as hell, knowing 7 different languages. prejudgemnet is the worse

210.

msrealtalk

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

When it comes to pleasin WHITE AMERICA of course it is offensive to them to LOOK AFRICAN AMERICAN. How ignorent is she to say that a Black woman should not wear her hair naturally? She is dreadful with that chemical shh in her head she calls beautiful. No! Whats beautiful is when a BLACK WOMAN is not afraid to wear her hair the way God has meant for it to grow out of her head. Who can give a F*&K about what they say looks good and what doesnt…they’re not God, and God doesnt make any mistakes. She is wrong for what she said, see thats why we need as many black sisters to wear and be proud of their natual hair because lost women like her will feel as stupid as the words she let come out of her mouth. LADIES IF YOU ROCKIN A FRO (LIKE ME)continue to rock it…its not called polictical hairstye…thats what they call it….its called natural hair. And its beautiful…very beautiful because its what God has given us..so dont let what they say discourage you.

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whytry?

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

Wow, I’ve missed a LOT!

@ BASHYBOO, girl it’s the truth!

Co-sign with Judah, Melissa & 194!

There have been many great points made on this subject, but as my friends and I realized long ago sometimes in the workplace you have to culturally assimilate, find a place where you can be “you,” or work for yourself! I work for myself & there is nothing like it. Of course just because you may be an entrepreneur don’t think that you still won’t be discriminated against. As much as things feel like they have changed they have really stayed the same.

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Ms. T.

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

WHAT ABOUT ALL THESE WHITE WOMEN THAT ARE WEARING RATTY, NASTY LOOKING WEAVES NOW, (example Shitney Spears).

DO THEY CONSIDER THAT UNPROFESSIONAL ALSO?

Because I have one working at my office and she looks a hot ass mess and she paid close to $1000 for her madness. I wish I could post her pic on here but i don’t have one.

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IncubusRocks

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

I think its funny how so many black people feel that in order to be a corporate success you have cant be natural. To me, natural styles look very professional and they make people look more mature (IMO). How many times have we seen young sistas with dried up thin slivers of relaxed hair that you can see thru? Black people think that as long as its straight then its great, when in fact I would much rather have thick nappy hair than thin and breaking relaxed hair.

And other nappies, dont let these fools get you. Most of the proffesional women I have seen are wearing natural styles. Its always black folks that criticize and try to place fear of the napps in our heads, most of the white folk I know fawn over my hair.

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sweetpea

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

I have natural hair and am new to blogging please give me feedback and tell me what info. you would like to see or look for as a natural woman or man . @WWW.yizoyizo.blogspot.com

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vera

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

THATS WHY I READ ESSENCE. AND DOES GLAMOUR REALLY KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT BLACK BEAUTY. SOME OF US SISTAHS KNOW HOW TO WEAR OUR DREAD,AFROS,BRAIDS AND NATURALS, TO FIT INTO CORPORATE SOCIETY. MAYBE THE JUNIOR MEMBER IS JEALOUS BECAUSE HE OR SHE CANT WEAR THESE STYLES.

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brittanymo

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

I understand what a lot people are saying about this woman’s comment. And I feel like no one should be rejected a job based on their cultural hair style. However, what we do have to keep in mind is that some of us are not the ones sitting behind the table taking notes. So if the interviewer decides not to hire the interviewee then its nothing we can about it especially if we have no proof that our hairstyle is the reason why we rejected

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keya51

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

I just cancelled my subscription. I always wondered why is wasn’t a lot of black models doing photo spreads or when in pics that went with articles, now I know. It’s sad but if black people aren’t represented correctly and knocked for our cultural choices, then they won’t get my money and fuck ‘em!

219.

vgeezy

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

I have been natural for 2 years after being a weave head for 5 yrs!!!! I must say white people have no problem with my hair at all…The issue is my fellow black women!!! They stare and make remarks behind my back like I am Geo political or something…I am a confident plus sized confident sista so I just laugh and I say to myself how much they must hate themselves to be intimidated by me choosing to wear my “natural” “real” hair……..BLACK WOMEN WAKE UP and understand with out that horse hair and perms your hair would be just like mine is….This post is verification that most Black women hate themselves and they hide behind their hair for their self worth.

P.S for the record I will never go back to false hair again

Peace

220.

Tammy

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

Is this post turning into “natural” vs “relaxed” hair ?

221.

julieisadime

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

Funny Tammy #220

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IncubusRocks

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

also take a look at nappturality.com and you will find hundreds to thousands of black nappy women working in corporate america (hell they even have a section for hair in the work place). And Im not saying that ALL nappy styles are apporpriate for work (the frow hawk needs to stay in the clubs) but to dismiss a afro is pathetic.
I dont knock women who straighten there hair, but I just have ask why black women are the only ones who are instilled from a young age that their hair is too nappy and needs to be “fixed”.

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bambam

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

@ 214

“most of the white people I know fawn over my hair”

Sounds like this website:

http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/

hmmmmmmm…interesting.

224.

hey yall

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

this is so sad but so many professional people of color CAN NOT wear the hairstyle they want. for those of you who can, be happy and blessed but don’t judge people who CANNOT afford to lose their jobs off of some hair. i have seen it in the school system where brothas and sistas wear their hair natural AND professional, and they lose their jobs (maybe its just the south). yes it is just some hair so it should not be a big deal but until WE AS MINORITIES start owning business and setting OUR OWN RULES we have to play by theirs to get paid. is it a form of selling out? YEAH so what people do it everyday, to feed their kids, pay off student loans, and have a roof over their heads. GLAMOUR SHOULD DO A STORY ABOUT THAT– everyone should stop acting like “the system” is supposed to understand and accept “us”… America has a long way to go before it is the utopia it is supposed to be… but when it does get there i hope to be the first through out my weave AND grow a big brown FRO

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bambam

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 /

^^^^^^

@224

THANK YOU.

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