@ 286 - On POINT!!!!

You all are talking of women being submissive and a man leading the house. No one has explained the justification of why this should be so? And #297…I will not gladly submit. I do partnerships, not monarchies

@noeatingheretonight…. I concur… How is your day coming along????
People are so confused about the submissive word …

MALLATO:

I can tell you i caught the spirit of the Lord and write anything and pass it on as Gospel. Really.

Anonymity. I completely agree!

I agree with Polow.
Generally speaking, black women are wack.
Most aren’t educated. Most are ghetto with misbehaved children. Most don’t even take the time to read. Therefore they cannot speak very well. Most act like they know everything when clearly they don’t…so loud and so quick to intimidate, but will never humbled. A very unkempt group of people. And most have the nerve to hate Oprah and C. Rice for rising above their common standards. I would be ashamed if I them.
And to make matters worse, most blame it all on white people saying slavery kept them down. SO pathetic are their excuses when they don’t even care to educate themselves and improve their families. Such a waist.

keyana that’s the point polow wants the woman to do right by him not the other way around, which is fine but relationships should be 50/50. But, might I ask who polow is talking about? He puts all of black america into this one category, and there are some black males that are sitting up here agreeing when he’s clearly calling you ignorant. He’s Some of you might really want to go read willie lynch before you rush and agree with him. Black women are apart of a cycle that he doesn’t like, well guess what that is his opinion it’s not a fact. Us as black women could give a damn about the king of white girls title prince or whatever he’s calling himself these days women stick up for women since he wants to take the color out. If black women shit ain’t together then it’s because we got big black bastards always slapping us down. To me it starts with the mother and father which in the end he already told us about his. (laughs) When I think of Oprah I don’t see single. I see rich, strong and caring. Before I think about her being single. What he was saying was not factual it was opinionated don’t let a fool, fool you. He needs attention. Last but not least most black women weren’t taught to not trust men they were taught to not trust anyone (just kidding)!!! We are actually just not taking any chances on a bullshit ass man. Life’s already fucked up ass it is, to depend on a sorry as man (what some find out late) is actually what makes us stupid (and) If you are not sorry it doesn’t apply to you. This is exactly what Willie Lynch wanted for us to think the White way is the RIght way. But in reality what they aren’t telling you that there is no colored way. There are ways but no Colored ways.GOt him thinking he has the right talk about anyone. The FOOL in mean FrEAK just wants ATTENtion. SO don’t pay attention to the dumb ass who says that it’s not about color when he puts black females all out there. If he wasn’t wrong the first time why did he reply. IDIOT!!!!!!

“Black males don’t bond. And they still hunger for it–that is why some of them find solace in gangs.

Damn, you hit the nail on the head with that statement!!!
I’ve said that for so long. Men today fail to realize that they need each other to teach each other. Yes, they are bonding, just the wrong way. Today’s version of bonding is dapping each other when a young sister walks by with her ass hanging out instead of admonishing her, throwing dollar bills in unison at the strip clubs, co-signing that this one is a bitch and a hoe because she’s not trying to holla, acting like it’s cool for ya boy to have five baby mommas … all that and then some.

A lot of these Black boys have no one to teach them right from wrong so if someone has never taught the right way to do something, how can they teach someone else the right way? Polow is confused because he believes that it was a woman’s responsibility to teach a boy how to be a man. NEVER GONNA HAPPEN. So it all goes back to what I was saying initially.

This is not about it being the Black woman’s fault. Women have certainly contributed to the problem but the problem didn’t start with a Black woman. I think what it all boils down to is that when the Black man started leaving the home, started creating multiple homes and started losing respect for the home, it all went to pot. You can’t have a solid structure without a solid foundation. Black men alongside the Black women have to become the foundation again or this will never change.

@NINI (290) Because the Bible tell us so… If the Man is a good head of the household what is wrong with that???

Exiting……………………….

@here’s the deal

I must inquire…are you a black man?

# 306….and black men are what???? You CANNOT generalize. Of the entire population, most of the women on welfare are white. Black women are more likely to graduate with advanced degrees. Black men are more likely to be unemployed and unemployable. Get your facts straight. And please dont take this as male bashing. I am talking liklihood, not generalizations.

@ 296 -

Mr Jones, has been Nothing but as Asset to the Music Industry.
I really can’t remember reading ANYWHERE where Mr. Jones stepped all over Black Women, to justify himself as a Producer or Anything Else.

I really don’t think,

that he would Appreciate you Smearing his Good Name,

with your: I haven’t Done anything that will go Down in History:

but, RUN MY MOUTH!

So Please: don’t try to PIMP he either, to justify your ignorance (lack of knwoledge).

Out of ALL that Mr. Jones has Accomplished: if that’s the “Best Reason” that

you can find to look up to him as a Role Model:

That’s a Shame, because you Could be STRIVING FOR, so much more!

Here’s the deal

Polow was hating on oprah you smart ass!!!!!!! How about that for the smart and above thou african american male not you (polow) the one you’re obviously defending

@ 296 - Forgot to SAY: I agree!!!!!!!!!!

Please do exit…Whats right with men being the head of the household. If I pay the bills and make sure everyone in my house is cared for, why in the world would I say that a man is the head of OUR house? Its completely illogical

Why are you guys tripping over poster 306 comment? That fool could barely string that half -ass paragraph together! Oh please , the wow factor tactics are getting old honey.

Mallato I agree with you . I love your POV

Thanks Ms_mac I agree 100 % . I feel the same way . I just see a lot of sisters saying submission equate being a doormat . I feel if you are in a healthy relationship and all is well , why not submitt?

@275

Who dis? My old buddy bi-polar/Louise? Lol, why you keep bothering me for? This is getting ridiculous, lmao. People harass me and then when they get cut, they accuse me of making everything biblical.

First off sis, you SERIOUSLY need to be instructed in the Word of the Lord. I’m reading that Bible that you’re obviously not. You are a feminist and feminism and the Word of the Lord don’t mix. That’s why you’ve confounded yourself.

In Prov 5:23 it’s referring to the mindset that one gets when they engage in an interracial relationship, something that you believe in if I remember correctly. Read it for yourself please, from Prov 5:15-23. That’s why it says, “he shall die without instruction….and he shall go astray”, because these women of the other races make these black men soft and have them worshipping their gods and their culture (Deut 7:1-5, Joshua 23:11-13, Esther 10:2-4, Neh 13:23-27, I Kings 11:1-11, etc.). Stop it sis, you don’t know what you’re talking about.

The Bible does not say take fast hold of “her” instruction. Stop lying on the Bible. As a matter of fact it tells the woman that she is not supposed to teach (Numbers 27:16,17, Prov 8:4, I Cor 14:34,35, ITim 2:11-15, etc.). Stop trying to “usurp authority”, lol.

Now in regards to the black woman being empowered by the caucasian man, that one question shows that you love this world which the scripture tells you that you shouldn’t (I John 2:15). The Bible speaks expressly that the women would be recognized as the leaders in our community in the last days and that it would be indicative of how destroyed we are (Isa 3:12). Don’t beef with me, take it up with the Most High. It also tells us that the women would put their spirit into these jobs and corporate America (Jer 31:22). That’s why it says, “…a NEW thing in the earth, a woman shall compass a man.” The reason why you and many other sisters praise the white man is because the scriptures tell us that you woud worship him because he has the power (Isa 32:9-12, Ezek 16:25, Jer 4:30,31, Hos 2:5-8). Unfortunately for many black women, when all hell breaks loose in these last days in the streets of America, you will have your spirits broken because you’ve invested so much in this society (Mic 7:10).

You need to be taught sis, and stop acting so damn proud (Prov 16:18).

oh no he didn’t. the white girls can have this ignorant mofo

He can try to rectify his sad situation until the cows clown dance……you were high on yourself when you made those comments,.what happened huh?…you no longer want to stand by your convictions?..NO….know why? Because now you see black women could give less than a slow comfortable screw if you were feeling us or not..now you wanna instant replay?…Don’t come with that… “I love ALL women” now…Punk!……..Ya feel white women is what you need to make you feel whole…KING?..(rolls eyes)..Well do you!….culture respecting black women were offended by what you stated, and we have acknowledged that!..I will forever celebrate the REAL black man and notice him for who HE is!….In my book?. You only get 1 time to make a good 1st impression….you told us how you felt the first go round…if that wasn’t how you felt in your heart…you would have NEVER said it….# 8 called it….you tryin to save record sales…..black $ goes a long way huh?…… yep, that’s what I heard.

@Mallato-I’m dodging a request- why should I do it when the person who should do is never avail..hmmmm? hahaha.

And I don’t get it either, it’s cool for Beyonce to sing about catering to you…but you can’t see that, that’s what submission is. Man works a full time job, does all the necessarily house chores that you have ASKED of him (I may ask him to do it but essentially I’m telling him), ask YOU for PERMISSION to go play poker on a Friday night- if I say NO I want you home- it’s sorry man not tonight-he doesn’t call me out because he did it one time and I told him not to do that again, helps with the Kids-homework and bedtime stories, makes sure that all of YOUR needs are met-use your imagination, won’t make any plans WITHOUT FIRST consulting YOU -family trips, trips with other couples or a night with other couple, WON”T buy any big items without FIRST ASKING YOU. We talk through it and decide TOGETHER. So on Sunday morning he likes to have grits nice and creamy, bacon, sausage, ham, OK- I will get up in the morning and cook it for him or he likes fried ham sandwiches for lunch so some mornings I get up and fry him some ham and pack his lunch for him- some may call it submission others may call it catering to him, but I will do it because not only because I know that he likes it but because HE makes me HAPPY, just like he’ll cut a slice of chocolate cake ,warm it for a sec in the microwave and put a scoop of ice cream on it for me because he knows that I like it and I make him HAPPY. When are we’re in a public, I let him take the lead- I support him. In all of this the key word is you - ALLOW- him to take the lead.

Oh I work too, I’m not about the whole housewife bit that’s why he helps with the chores.

We’re not perfect, we fight too, but we work it out because we respect and love each other.

I know a rambled a bit but I’m trying to give examples.

* I forgot to stress that He’s handling his responsibilities to me and home.

ok I’m really going to stop now because I’m going through deja vu again…

LMAO @ the Judah STANS! Here you are, on another post licking every inch of his crack! Your tongue isn’t tired yet?

This post is directed to Mut (Mullato) and that Egg roll girl (NoEating…)

No offense though.

I am so tired of listening to people who do not have any sense . Can you just put post up of people that actually matter or even have something relevant to say. I am soooo tired of ignorance running rampant just because you got a few extra duckets to your name. Can Polow keep his damn mouth shut - HE is making himself and our community look completely ignorant and playing into stereotypes. Just SHUT UP and produce and stay behind the scenes where you should stay and neva, eva, eva, eva come back out again!

ms_mac said:
“You can’t have a solid structure without a solid foundation.Black men alongside the Black women have to become the foundation again or this will never change.”

And i agree 100%

Quoting you:

*****You are a feminist (YOU)

- WRONG, I’m NOT! Very Submissive: My Husbands A GREAT MAN!!!!!

*****Feminism and the Word of the Lord don’t mix. (YOU)

-WRONG, The Lord, mixes with Nothing: He is the Same! Yesterday, Today & Tomorrow: FOREVER!

******That’s why you’ve confounded yourself. (YOU)

-WRONG, I not confounded, confused, NOR Double Minded (lukewarm).

******In Prov 5:23 it’s referring to the mindset that one gets when they engage in an interracial relationship, something that you believe in if I remember correctly. Read it for yourself please, from Prov 5:15-23. That’s why it says, “he shall die without instruction….and he shall go astray”, because these women of the other races make these black men soft and have them worshipping their gods and their culture (Deut 7:1-5, Joshua 23:11-13, Esther 10:2-4, Neh 13:23-27, I Kings 11:1-11, etc.).

-WRONG, Definitely don’t Know where this Translation came From.
Is this YOUR Interpretation? IThis is the FIRST Time, I’ve ever seen this version.
Did you get that from 1 of the 135 Biblical Translations on Biblegateway?

*****Stop it sis, you don’t know what you’re talking about.

-WRONG, take a look at Bob Yandian - Proverbs

*****The Bible does not say take fast hold of “her” instruction. Stop lying on the Bible. As a matter of fact it tells the woman that she is not supposed to teach (Numbers 27:16,17, Prov 8:4, I Cor 14:34,35, ITim 2:11-15, etc.). Stop trying to “usurp authority”, lol.

- WRONG AGAIN: It says HUSBAND, HUSBAND & NOT to SPEAK in Church.
She is to ask her HUSBAND. NOT her Boyfriend —OR— any ole man on A POST.

*****Stop lying on the Bible
WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!
We can Never lie on the Bible. We can ONLY Lie on Ourselves…

*****Don’t beef with me
WRONG, I am that woman who can Simply Say what she Means.
I do not have to BEEF to Prove my Point.

*****Now in regards to the black woman being empowered by the caucasian man, that one question shows that you love this world which the scripture tells you that you shouldn’t (I John 2:15). The Bible speaks expressly that the women would be recognized as the leaders in our community in the last days and that it would be indicative of how destroyed we are (Isa 3:12). Don’t beef with me, take it up with the Most High. It also tells us that the women would put their spirit into these jobs and corporate America (Jer 31:22). That’s why it says, “…a NEW thing in the earth, a woman shall compass a man.” The reason why you and many other sisters praise the white man is because the scriptures tell us that you woud worship him because he has the power (Isa 32:9-12, Ezek 16:25, Jer 4:30,31, Hos 2:5-8). Unfortunately for many black women, when all hell breaks loose in these last days in the streets of America, you will have your spirits broken because you’ve invested so much in this society (Mic 7:10).

-WRONG, please cite some References Please.
That is if you want to Prove your Point & NOT Just Talk. I’m SORRY: Beef!

Surely you Don’t Expect for me to Take you at Your Word…..
That’s Part of The Problem…
Men Want to Be BELIEVED without Question..

Maybe, I hope that’s not an Issue/Beef:
Because I would like some Sufficient Evidence, Despite just YOUR WORD. Is IT?

JUST SO THAT YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I DO

***RESPECT YOU*** AS A MAN:

TEACH ME!

I AM WILLING TO LEARN, AND LISTEN:

BUT PLEASE: GIVE ME SOMETHING TO BELIEVE:

OTHER THAN YOUR MERE WORDS!!!!!!

@324 - Ass kisser- you really don’t know do you?…DON’T EVER call me a JUDAH STAN…EVER…YOU have mistaken. He and I are on opposite sides of the fence, shit we’re on different worlds. You’re right, I’m the egg-roll girl and he hates ever race but Blacks so you need to correct yourself. I’m no bigot.

I don’t know if you did it on purpose but that’s the funniest thing I’ve ever heard today.

oh wow i see that it is really goings on on here, huh?

okay i’m not tryin to funny or anything but this is the second day that we have had hard hitting conversation regarding a “real” topic. We need to be opening our own chat room and discussing this stuff because our discussion was cut very short on yesterday at 303 and here we are at almost 350…

I’m sure Polow is seceretly checking out concreteloop, looking at our comments. LOL.

@324 - actually come to think of it, he hates all non-black races AND blacks who don’t agree with him. hahahaha..ok I need to get back to work. it’s too busy today to get into a CL discussion.

@ 306-
I never thought the word “most” was a generalization. But if you think it is, it just proves my theory that black people don’t read. (Assuming that you are black and how angry you are at my post). And as far as black men, they are no better. The most I see are either Thugs or flairing gay men who twirl around everywhere. So pathetic.

@310
It shouldn’t matter what race I am. But I guess in today’s world, it does. Anyway I’m an Asian woman (who loves CL, by the way), 24-years-old, NYU grad and in Columbia University for my MBA. No kids, no sexual abuse. The list goes on. Question, If I were black, would my statements make a difference? Would I be more “real”?

@315-
You’re probably black. Plus, my comments go so far past what Polow said and into a world you obviously know nothing about. Believe me, I am not alone in thinking this. So please, don’t be so quick to yell and strike fear into people. Try ti listen, learn, and change.

http://www.studiesinthewo...d.org/submissive_wife.htm
THE SUBMISSIVE WIFE, MODEL WOMAN AND MODERN WOMAN

This seems to be the place where some controversy enters. Submit? What does that mean? According to Webster’s Dictionary to submit means “to present or refer to others for decision, consideration, etc. To yield to the action, control power, etc. of another or others, give in; also, to subject or allow to be subjected to treatment, analysis, etc. of some sort: often used reflexively. To be submissive is having or showing a tendency to submit without resistance; docile; yielding.”

Does that mean that we wives are to sit in the corner and never say a word? That we can’t make any major decisions in my marriage? That we had become a second-class citizen? That is not the way women of today are encouraged or taught, at home, school or in the workplace, to act. This is the day and age of Women’s Rights. Women can do and make decisions as well as anyone else can. So why is it that in one of the most important areas of life, women have been directed to be submissive? And why do “modern women” and the secular world make such a fuss over the use of the word “submit?” The issue may or may not be life or death, but the importance of maintaining a healthy and happy marriage may be at stake.

Certainly we see many examples in the Bible of women that were influential with their husbands and others, such as Sarah, Rachel, Deborah, and Esther to name a few. As indicated in Jamieson, Faussset & Brown’s, Commentary on the Whole Bible, (Zondervan, 1961) in the Book of Proverbs, we are supplied with a proverbial wisdom commended by the seal of divine inspiration. God has condescended to become our teacher on the practical affairs belonging to all the relations of life. He has adapted His instruction to the plain and unlettered, and presented, in this striking and impressive method, the great principles of duty to Him and to our fellow men. To the prime motive of all right conduct and the fear of God, are added all lawful and subordinate incentives, such as honor, interest, love, fear, and natural affection. In Proverbs 31:10-31, we find a very clear description given of the “model woman.” Let’s look at that.

Prov 31 (NKJV) {10} Who can find a virtuous wife? For her worth far above rubies. {11} The heart of her husband safely trusts her; So he will have no lack of gain. {12} She does him good and not evil All the days of her life. {13} She seeks wool and flax, And willingly works with her hands. {14} She is like the merchant ships, She brings her food from afar. {15} She also rises while it is yet night, And provides food for her household, And a portion for her maidservants. {16} She considers a field and buys it; From her profits she plants a vineyard. {17} She girds herself with strength, And strengthens her arms. {18} She perceives that her merchandise good, And her lamp does not go out by night. {19} She stretches out her hands to the distaff, And her hand holds the spindle. {20} She extends her hand to the poor, Yes, she reaches out her hands to the needy. {21} She is not afraid of snow for her household, For all her household clothed with scarlet. {22} She makes tapestry for herself; Her clothing fine linen and purple. {23} Her husband is known in the gates, When he sits among the elders of the land. {24} She makes linen garments and sells , And supplies sashes for the merchants. {25} Strength and honor her clothing; She shall rejoice in time to come. {26} She opens her mouth with wisdom, And on her tongue the law of kindness. {27} She watches over the ways of her household, And does not eat the bread of idleness. {28} Her children rise up and call her blessed; Her husband , and he praises her: {29} “Many daughters have done well, But you excel them all.” {30} Charm deceitful and beauty passing, But a woman fears the LORD, she shall be praised. {31} Give her of the fruit of her hands, And let her own works praise her in the gates.

This certainly doesn’t sound like a woman who sat in the corner and said or did nothing. In fact, no matter what the time, this woman would be considered highly successful. The key here seems to be her ability to not only be an ideal wife and mother, but also a successful business woman. This would be a worthy example to anyone.

Let’s look at this Scripture more closely. Who can find a “virtuous” wife? What is “virtuous?” According to Webster’s Dictionary it is “having, or characterized by, moral virtue; righteous. Chaste, said of a woman.” The Companion Bible, (Kregel, 1990) describes it as coming from the Hebrew word “hayil” which means strong in all moral qualities. The English use of this word limits it to one kind of excellence. The meaning of the Hebrew is wider. In these verses, we see a wife who is virtuous, industrious, domesticated, generous, strong, honorable, wise and godly. She displays all these qualities as she performs tasks associated with being a wife, mother, manager of her household and staff, seamstress, cook, landowner, farmer, merchant, and community leader. She not only gives attention to her own family and household staff but also provides for the poor. From her husband’s perspective, she has strong moral qualities, is priceless, trustworthy, and an asset. In any time or circumstances this person would be considered an over-achiever.

Many women today are involved in the many of the same activities. All be it, times have changed and we have many modern conveniences and technology to assist in these activities. However, there is still a substantial commitment of time and effort required.

So how could it be that the biblical “model woman” looks so much like the modern woman? Maybe it’s because a “modern” woman is a woman who reflects the times in which she lives. She is a person having ideas, beliefs and standards of her times. So while the model woman was modern for her time, in today’s world this same woman would be considered modern in ideas with some very high beliefs and moral standards. Isn’t it strange, that the model woman defined so many centuries ago is still a representative figure for today’s world. So look at the scripture again and tell me if the moral qualities described are a bad thing. As a Christian they would seem to be right on target.

i agree w/ him…people call me an asshole cause i speak the truth ALOT!!! but the fact of the matter is, is that people don’t wanna hear he truth, they just wanna hear what will make them feel good or the generic bullshit they’ve been taught. ya’ll gotta realize that the truth is never pleasant.

NEVER!!!

1. I should have felt the door to see if it was hot on the other side before I just plunged into this post, damn the flames are high this afternoon!

2. Polow is not even worth commenting on.

Me as a black women will invest in my family and maybe charity. Other than that the white people do most of the investing so i gather they will have all of the problems on that end

LMAO, what’s with all the exclamation points, sis. Like I said, many of you sisters are exactly what Polow Da Don said you are and that’s why you’re so angry. Now you challenged me to a scriptural debate, I gave you the scriptures and all you could say is “WRONG!” as if you have the faintest idea what you’re talking about. Now if I’m wrong you’re supposed to cite scriptures to prove that I’m wrong (Isa 8:20, I Pet 4:11, etc.) You can’t because you don’t know anything (Prov 9:13). Who the hell is Bob Yandian? Lol, you too funny. When you say, “please cite references”, what you really mean is, “are there any books that the white man wrote that corroborate your breakdown of the scriptures…”. You can’t go to not one of those scriptures that I cited and disprove me. You’re shocked that I could actually back up what I say.

What “translation” are you talking about. I’m talking about the King James 1611, lol. Like I said, read the biblical verses I quoted and they all teach against interracial marriage. There is no other way to “interpret” it. In regards to a woman teaching in I Tim 2:11-15 it says, “I suffer not a woman to teach.”. Interpret that how you want. Please once again, if I’m just talking then it behooves you to disprove my citations or provide some of your own in retort. This is why biblical debates are so long-winded, because you have people that don’t understand what they’re reading or just forsake scriptures or whole books of the Bible that don’t fit into their doctrine. Go ask Bob Yandian, lmao.

SO WHERE’S THE PROBLEM AND WHAT DO WE DO?

One must prepare for marriage by giving it serious forethought. Marriage should not be a spur-of-the-moment act. You need to ask yourself at least two things, (1) What can I give (contribute) and (2) Am I willing to commit myself fully to making this a successful relationship?

One of the problems today seems to lie in the fact that we have placed a negative connotation on the word “submissive.” We associate the word with relationships that are dominant, dictatorial, servile, and many other negative terms. This then coupled with a woman’s past training to be responsible and self-reliant begins to cause problems.

So a second key may then be in how we communicate and interact with each other. Do we have two people who feel that their “status or pride” is being threatened to assume the roles that they have been given? Is there a need on the part of either of both of the team to exercise some actions that firmly establish their role in this relationship? Does the husband feel a need to exercise control to demonstrate his position? Does the wife respond with acts of resistance or rebellion to assert an “equal” position in the partnership? Do we give more respect and consideration to those outside our marriage than we do to our own spouse? Are we making an effort to maintain the relationship that God described?

Any good leader or successful person knows that one of the key elements to success is communications. And communications has two aspects; one is speaking and the other is listening. Major companies today spend millions of dollars for advice of matters involving finance, law, technology and other matters. Why would a husband not want to take a marriage, that is worth much more than any major corporation, and “rule” without advice and counsel? By the same token, why would a wife not want to be a “helpmate” to achieve a successful partnership?

A successful leader also knows that you cannot operate without regard for your co-workers or followers. Leaders must delegate some of the tasks and responsibilities to achieve the objectives. When objectives are met then reward and/or praise are the order of the day. We all feel better when someone takes the time to recognize our efforts. That goes for our efforts relative to our marriages as well as those in other venues. Also with the giving of authority to perform tasks and responsibilities there is accountability. I for one worked for many years before I was married. I had a very responsible position in my field of work and had authority over several thousand employees and major financial matters. I also made all of my own decisions for many years as a single woman. But despite a successful career everyone is responsible to someone. There was always someone to whom I was accountable.

We all know that ultimately we are accountable to God. But think about your life today, inside or outside the home, and you will find more times than not that you are answerable to someone for many of the things that you do. If we are accountable to strangers, why then is it a problem to be answerable to your “partner?” This is the person that you have proclaimed to love and trust. If we have time to take counsel from others in the workplace and outside the home, why not then from our spouses?

Here then is another key issue, what is “trust.” You will note in Proverbs 31:11, that “the heart of her husband safely trusts her.” What is trust? According to Webster’s Dictionary , trust is “a firm belief or confidence in the honesty, integrity, reliability, justice, etc. of another person or thing; faith; reliance.” The Hebrew word is butach (Strong’s H982). Meaning to trust, to confide, to place hope and confidence in any one. There is much in a marriage that involves trust. Think about it. The husband in Proverbs who safely trusted “will have no lack of gain. She does him good and not evil all the days of her life.” In response, “her children rise up and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praises her.” To trust means that you have yielded to someone. But who better and more worthy than your husband? And husbands, a little praise now and again would not hurt.

When we married, we entered into a “contract.” That contract was an agreement between two people detailing the obligations and terms of the union. While all the specific terms of that contract are not written on a sheet of paper, it is legal and binding, both in the eyes of the civil law and God’s law. Most of us stood before our family and friends and promised that we would act in a certain manner and treat the other person in a certain manner. Among many of the things that were promised, most of us promised to “honor and cherish.” Do we understand what that means?

To “cherish” means to hold dear, feel or show love for, to take good care of, protect. Sounds like the direction in Colossians 3:19, for husbands to love your wives and do not be bitter toward them. Also Ephesians 5:25-33, husbands are admonished to “love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her” and ” husbands ought to love their own wives as their own bodies, he who loves his wife loves himself. For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as the Lord does the church.”

Likewise, to “honor” means “high regard or great respect, given, received or enjoyed. High rank or position, distinction, dignity.” Is this not what is called for in the Scriptures that indicate that “the husband is head of the wife, as also Christ is head of the Church”(Eph 5:23), that “wives submit to your own husbands, as is fitting in the Lord” (Col 3:18), and “just as the church is subject to Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything” (Eph 5:24)?

Maybe it is time to get back to the answers we have to the two questions that we needed to consider before we entered into marriage. If we were truthful in our answers, we have committed ourselves to making this union work. We made a covenant and to that end we must be a person of our word. In this modern age, it is easy to get out of many commitments simply by saying, “I’ve changed my mind,” or “I just don’t feel that way about you any more.” Words are often cheap.

Would you like Christ to “change His mind” or “just not feel that way about you any more?”

CONCLUSION

It seems that we have come full circle. We have walked through God’s creation of the husband and wife relationship and his designation of the hierarchy of that union. We have touched upon the possible hurdle that must be cleared by the “modern woman” in clearly understanding what the submissive role of the wife entails. We have looked at the stigmatism associated with the designation of the wife’s role as submissive. We have looked at the description of the “model woman” given in Proverbs 31 and concluded that it closely is aligned to the attributes that most “modern woman” of today would subscribe to. We have looked at a couple of key elements to achieving success in any endeavor. And we have looked at two promises that were a part of the verbal marriage contract that we entered into on the day we were married that could help us in being comfortable and satisfied in the submissive wife role.

So what can we conclude? First, is that there probably isn’t any opposing positions between a submissive wife and a modern woman. That the fuss raised by the secular world is more flap than substance. Second, that the proverbial wisdom, provided through the inspiration of God, relative to the “model woman” is as applicable today as it was at the time it was written. That the joint effort of both the husband and the wife to operate a successful partnership has many subordinate incentives.

And finally, it is very easy when we enter marriage to see only a smooth road and the bright side of every thing. There is nothing wrong with that. But we need to enter marriage with a commitment that we are going to put all our efforts into making the union what God intended it to be. We must put our trust in each other and give this partnership the required effort; remembering that this relationship was modeled after Christ’s relationship with the Church.

For in the end we must be prepared to stand in front of God and be held accountable for our efforts toward conducting our marriages in the manner HE prescribed.

Me as a black women will invest in my family and maybe charity. Other than that the white people do most of the investing so i gather they will have all of the problems on that end

Boycott

“Fallen” (Zone 4 remix) also known as (Polow da Don mix) by Mýa (featuring Chingy)
“Back in the Mud” (Zone 4 remix) also known as (Urban mix) by Bubba Sparxxx (featuring Sean Paul of YoungBloodz, Pastor Troy & Rich Boy)

“Party Starter” by Will Smith 1
“Pimpin’ All Over the World” by Ludacris (featuring Bobby Valentino) 1
“Break a Nigga Off” by Snoop Dogg, Gangsta Boo, Lil’ Fate & Rich Boy
“DJ Play a Love Song” by Jamie Foxx (featuring Twista) 1
“Superstar” by Keyshia Cole

“Baby Bend Over” by Field Mob
“London Bridge” by Fergie 1
“Buttons” by the Pussycat Dolls 1
“Glamorous” by Fergie (featuring Ludacris) 1
“Throw Some D’s” by Rich Boy (featuring Polow da Don) (co-production) 1
“Runaway Love” by Ludacris (featuring Mary J. Blige) 1
“Promise” by Ciara 1
“Bang It Up” by Ciara
“Blindfold Me” by Kelis featuring Nas 1
“Shake It” by Mýa
“Tears” by Lil Fizz (featuring Bobby Valentino)
“Where I’m From” by Young Argo (featuring Bow Wow)
“Lock Down” by Young Argo (featuring C-Bo)
“Let’s Be Real” by Jibbs (featuring J. Valentine)
“Bring It Back” by Jibbs
“Straight Jack” by Chilli (featuring Missy Elliott)

“Get Up” (remix) by Ciara
“Promise” (Go and Get Your Tickets mix) by Ciara & R. Kelly
“Like This” by Kelly Rowland (featuring Eve) 1
“Get Buck” by Young Buck 1
“StreetLove” by Lloyd
“Role Models” by Rich Boy (featuring David Banner and Attitude)
“Crying Out for Me” by Mario
“Boy Looka Here” by Rich Boy 1
“Good Things” by Rich Boy (featuring Polow da Don & Keri Hilson) 1
“Touch That Ass” by Rich Boy
“On the Regular” by Rich Boy
“Lost Girls” by Rich Boy (featuring Keri Hilson & Rock City) (co-production)
“Ghetto Rich” by Rich Boy (featuring John Legend)
“Let’s Get This Paper”/”Balla Life” [hidden track] by Rich Boy
“Assurance” by Bone Thugs-N-Harmony (iTunes bonus track)
“Next” by Gia Farrell
“Hot Sauce” by Stat Quo
“Ringtone” by R. Kelly
“Real Playa Like” by Fabolous (featuring Lloyd)
“Whatever U Like” by Nicole Scherzinger (featuring T.I.) 1
“When I See U” (remix) by Fantasia (featuring Polow da Don & Young Jeezy) 1
“Fantasy ” by Eve (featuring Robin Thicke)
“Breathe ” by Big P
“I Like Love” by R. Kelly
“Back in Da Club” by Janet Jackson
i15 - Lost In Love feat. Polow Da Don
Hot Rod - Bump My Shit 1

Me as a black women will invest in my family and maybe charity. Other than that the white people do most of the investing so i gather they will have all of the problems on that end

Boycott

“Fallen” (Zone 4 remix) also known as (Polow da Don mix) by Mýa (featuring Chingy)
“Back in the Mud” (Zone 4 remix) also known as (Urban mix) by Bubba Sparxxx (featuring Sean Paul of YoungBloodz, Pastor Troy & Rich Boy)

“Party Starter” by Will Smith 1
“Pimpin’ All Over the World” by Ludacris (featuring Bobby Valentino) 1
“Break a Nigga Off” by Snoop Dogg, Gangsta Boo, Lil’ Fate & Rich Boy
“DJ Play a Love Song” by Jamie Foxx (featuring Twista) 1
“Superstar” by Keyshia Cole

“Baby Bend Over” by Field Mob
“London Bridge” by Fergie 1
“Buttons” by the Pussycat Dolls 1
“Glamorous” by Fergie (featuring Ludacris) 1
“Throw Some D’s” by Rich Boy (featuring Polow da Don) (co-production) 1
“Runaway Love” by Ludacris (featuring Mary J. Blige) 1
“Promise” by Ciara 1
“Bang It Up” by Ciara
“Blindfold Me” by Kelis featuring Nas 1
“Shake It” by Mýa
“Tears” by Lil Fizz (featuring Bobby Valentino)
“Where I’m From” by Young Argo (featuring Bow Wow)
“Lock Down” by Young Argo (featuring C-Bo)
“Let’s Be Real” by Jibbs (featuring J. Valentine)
“Bring It Back” by Jibbs
“Straight Jack” by Chilli (featuring Missy Elliott)

“Get Up” (remix) by Ciara
“Promise” (Go and Get Your Tickets mix) by Ciara & R. Kelly
“Like This” by Kelly Rowland (featuring Eve) 1
“Get Buck” by Young Buck 1
“StreetLove” by Lloyd
“Role Models” by Rich Boy (featuring David Banner and Attitude)
“Crying Out for Me” by Mario
“Boy Looka Here” by Rich Boy 1
“Good Things” by Rich Boy (featuring Polow da Don & Keri Hilson) 1
“Touch That Ass” by Rich Boy
“On the Regular” by Rich Boy
“Lost Girls” by Rich Boy (featuring Keri Hilson & Rock City) (co-production)
“Ghetto Rich” by Rich Boy (featuring John Legend)
“Let’s Get This Paper”/”Balla Life” [hidden track] by Rich Boy
“Assurance” by Bone Thugs-N-Harmony (iTunes bonus track)
“Next” by Gia Farrell
“Hot Sauce” by Stat Quo
“Ringtone” by R. Kelly
“Real Playa Like” by Fabolous (featuring Lloyd)
“Whatever U Like” by Nicole Scherzinger (featuring T.I.) 1
“When I See U” (remix) by Fantasia (featuring Polow da Don & Young Jeezy) 1
“Fantasy ” by Eve (featuring Robin Thicke)
“Breathe ” by Big P
“I Like Love” by R. Kelly
“Back in Da Club” by Janet Jackson
i15 - Lost In Love feat. Polow Da Don
Hot Rod - Bump My Shit 1

the man generates a very good point, a point that is shared by many men, and no they aren’t all “ignorant”. On the contrary, they’re actually men repeatedly scorned by women of their own race so through trial and error you do in some ways become an expert within your own right through your own experiences and encounters. Polow’s opinions are based around that and should be respected for that reason. Whether one fully agrees with him is something different entirely, but the logic behind a number of his statements cannot be argued with. Is Oprah a problem, in some ways as she’s done so much in an effort to uplift black women that i think she’s forgotten her brothers need help as well. As far as Polow’s take on her, he presents an interesting argument that i fully agree with as she delivers a powerful blow to the black family by not having one, and the message that delivers may seem trivial to some, but it may cause more harm than good in the long run. Black society as a whole has issues, one of those issues being the constant finger pointing which this whole issue seems to stem from, “black women do this and dats y black men are this way” which is retorted with “if black men did this , then we black women wouldn’t have to be some way”. Neither sides wants to grip the reigns of black society’s destiny TOGETHER, they both want to be totally in control and that’s what’s left us careening out of control. Polow’s not ignorant, just not properly equipped to fully speak on the issue, but he has a sense of what he’s talking about as do many of the folks who have posted here, but there is no one answer to our problems, but a collective one. One that we wont draw to until we become a COLLECTIVE again and stop focusing on being so independent and learn the value of being INTERDEPENDENT. Tearing down this one black brother for having an opinion doesn’t help matters, but only fuels just what he’s saying and fans the fire’s underneath the asses of every enraged black woman bothered by his statements. Polow opened his mouth and his foot went in, but i’m glad he opened his mouth if discussion can begin on where thoughts like his stem from and why he isn’t the only one who thinks that way.

and to #296, is one man really worth the hundreds who might ALSO suffer at the hands of your attempt to wound his pockets, pockets already lined with paper. N*ggas and B*tches exist in this world, always have and always will, and the problems they present should not be ignore anymore than their existence should be, and i think that’s where he was going when he made that statement. Stop being so blind in an effort to do damage to an institution you supposedly “love”, and open your eyes to what their undertones are trying to express.

…Polow is a beast in his own right and i support his music and his attempts at examining black society, no matter how failed…at least the brothers trying

THE MARRIAGE RELATIONSHIP AS DESIGNED BY GOD

“So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.”

“Then God saw everything that He had made, and indeed it was very good. . . . ” Genesis 1:27 and 31 (NKJV)

“He who finds a wife finds a good thing. And obtains favor from the Lord.” Proverbs 18:22 (NKJV)

So the foundation was set for what has become one of the most lasting relationships known to man. The relationship of a man and woman, in marriage, was provided for by God almost from the beginning. We read in:

Genesis 2:18 and 24 (NKJV) And the LORD God said, “It is not good that man should be alone; I will make him a helper comparable to him.” and then in verse {24} Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh;

God established marriage as a partnership (joined to become one flesh), but he created woman as a “helper.” So what is a partnership? Webster’s New World Dictionary, Third College Edition, (Prentice Hall, 1994) defines it as “the state of being a partner; participation. The relationship of partners; joint interest, association.” Two key words are “participation” and “joint interest.” The word “helper” is from the Hebrew “ezer” (Strong’s H5828) meaning to aid or help.

From this you can see that God never intended for a person to be cut off from a fulfilling relationship. According to the Scriptures the essence of marriage is togetherness or being “yoked” together (Mat. 19:5-6), working in unison. It allows for a spouse to complement, not compete with or suppress, the other.

This mutually dependent relationship is exemplified in the phrase “one flesh.”

Let’s move on further into this relationship when God speaks to Eve:

Gen 3:16 (NKJV) To the woman He said: “I will greatly multiply your sorrow and your conception; In pain you shall bring forth children; Your desire for your husband, And he shall rule over you.”

The word “rule” comes from the Hebrew word “mashal” (Strong’s H4910) which means (have, make to have) dominion, governor, rule, have power.

We can see this hierarchy reiterated in the New Testament.

1 Cor 11:3-10 (NKJV) But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman man, and the head of Christ God.

Ephesians 5: {22} Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord, {23} For the husband is head of the wife, as also Christ is head of the Church; and He is the Savior of the body.

Colossians 3: {18} Wives, submit to your own husbands, as is fitting in the Lord. {19} Husbands, love your wives and do not be bitter toward them.

In Paul’s letter to the Ephesians, which has been theorized as originally intended to be a circular letter to the Asian churches, direction is given to both husbands and wives regarding their roles in this partnership.

Eph 5:23-24 (NKJV) For the husband is head of the wife, as also Christ is head of the church; and He is the Savior of the body. {24} Therefore, just as the Church is subject to Christ, so the wives to their own husbands in everything.

As in any organization, whether large or small, there is a need for a leader. In this case, that role has been clearly assigned to the husband.

To “rule over you” is not a license to operate like a dictatorship. In fact, this is clearly addressed in:

Eph 5:25-33 (NKJV) Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her, {26} that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word, {27} that He might present her to Himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she should be holy and without blemish. {28} So husbands ought to love their own wives as their own bodies; he who loves his wife loves himself. {29} For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as the Lord the church. {30} For we are members of His body, of His flesh and of His bones. {31} “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.” {32} This is a great mystery, but I speak concerning Christ and the church. {33} Nevertheless let each one of you in particular so love his own wife as himself, and let the wife that she respects husband.

1 Pet 3:7-12 (NKJV) {7} Husbands, likewise, dwell with with understanding, giving honor to the wife, as to the weaker vessel, and as heirs together of the grace of life, that your prayers may not be hindered. {8} Finally, all of one mind, having compassion for one another; love as brothers, tenderhearted, courteous; {9} not returning evil for evil or reviling for reviling, but on the contrary blessing, knowing that you were called to this, that you may inherit a blessing. {10} For “He who would love life And see good days, Let him refrain his tongue from evil, And his lips from speaking deceit. {11} Let him turn away from evil and do good; Let him seek peace and pursue it. {12} For the eyes of the LORD on the righteous, And His ears to their prayers; But the face of the LORD against those who do evil.”

To the wives, this statement:

1 Pet 3:1-6 (NKJV) {1} Wives, likewise, submissive to your own husbands, that even if some do not obey the word, they, without a word, may be won by the conduct of their wives, {2} when they observe your chaste conduct by fear. {3} Do not let your adornment be outward; arranging the hair, wearing gold, or putting on apparel; {4} rather the hidden person of the heart, with the incorruptible of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is very precious in the sight of God. {5} For in this manner, in former times, the holy women who trusted in God also adorned themselves, being submissive to their own husbands, {6} as Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him lord, whose daughters you are if you do good and are not afraid with any terror.

So what we have established so far is that (1) a marriage is a joining of two people as “one flesh” (partnership), (2) the husband being assigned the role as “head of the wife”(Eph 5:23), (3) the wife being directed to “submit” to her husband, and (4) both the husband and wife are directed to love one another, as Christ loves his church. Any problem so far? Sounds pretty clear.

And MOST is a generalization if your assumption is not true. As for your “theory” that black people do not read, clearly you do not know what “theory” means. “Theory” means that it is backed by peer reviewed research. Got that, NYU graduate

@324

Thank you brother/sis. They couldn’t ignore me if they wanted to. I give all credit to the Most High.

Black women aren’t scorned by black men?

PEOPLE ARE FUCKING HILARIOUS LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT OPRAH IS NOT A ROLE MODEL BECAUSE SHE IS SUCCESSFUL AND NOT MARRIED-OKAY?

BLACK WOMEN ARE TOO STRONG AND DON’T KNOW HOW TO BE SUBMISSIVE-OKAY?

ACCORDING TO POLOW (WHATEVA HIS NAME IS) MANY MEN PREFER OTHER RACES OF WOMEN IN SPITE OF BLACK WOMEN-OKAY?

SO TELL ME THIS-IF IT’S A KNOWN FACT THAT BLACK WOMEN ARE PREDOMINANTLY THE HEAD OF THEIR HOUSEHOLD-MEANING THEY PAYING THE BILLS ALL BY THEIR DAMN SELVES W/O THE HELP OF A MAN

WOULDN’T IT BE WISE TO EDUCATE ONE SELF AND STRIVE TO BE SUCCESSFUL-SO THAT YOU WOULD INCREASE YOUR EARNING POTENTIAL?

AND SINCE WE ARE STRONG AND BLACK MEN DON’T LIKE US ANY DAMN WAY WHY WOULD WE BYPASS SUCCESS IN OUR CAREER FOR THE VERY SLIM CHANCE OF POSSIBLY GETTING MARRIED? REMEMBER STATISTICS SHOW THAT WE ARE LESS LIKELY TO GET MARRIED ANY WAYS

SO AT BEST BLACK WOMEN’S BEST BET IS TO LIVE THEIR LIVES AS THEY SEE FIT-THE POSSIBILITY OF FINDING A BLACK MAN TO SHARE YOUR LIFE IWITH MORE SO EVEN MARRY (BECAUSE THEY DON’T WANT OUR ASSES ANYWAYS) ARE VERY SLIM TO BEGIN WITH

I WOULD RATHER BE OPRAH ANY DAY-WHY IS IT PRESUMED THAT EVERY WOMAN EVEN WANTS TO BE MARRIED? BUT OF COURSE ACCORDING TO THIS NEGRO THAT SHOULD BE OUR ONLY ASPIRATION-

THERE IS NO PLEASING SOME BLACK MEN-IT’S OKAY FOR US TO BE STRONG WHEN YOUR SERVING TIME IN JAIL AND YOU NEED COMMENSARY, IT’S OKAY TO BE STRONG WHEN YOU DECIDE TO LEAVE AND WE HAVE TO PLAY MOMMY AND DADDY, AND IT’S OKAY TO BE STRONG AND PAY ALL THE BILLS WHEN THE “WHITE” MAN REFUSES TO GIVE YOU A JOB

THIS IS THE EXACT REASON WHY BLACK WOMEN RESIST BEING SUBMISSIVE BECAUSE IT’S USUALLY SOME SELF-SERVING NEGROE THAT WANTS A PASSIVE NON-QUESTIONING WOMAN-THAT HE CAN MANIPULATE AND USE UNTIL HE MOVES ON TO SOME WHITE WOMAN WITH MORE MONEY-WHO’LL NOT ONLY NOT QUESTION HIM BUT FUND HIS ASK LIKE THE BLACK NEGROE COLLEGE FUND WHILE HE’S RUNNING UP AND DOWN THE ROAD HOEING AT HER EXPENSE-

@ Spencer

LMAO at your silly-ass boycott list. Gimme a damn break….

@Bailey

Your anger is coming out sis, lol.

Wow, some of you a validating his veiws .

350! Dats all i wanted ta say:D

Okay Judah.

I would like to Debate, and learn something New from you if that’s possible.

But, I don’t want to Beef!

KJV 1611 - I do not see ANYTHING, about what YOU are saying.

The 1611 Version is OUT of Print, and has been since 1619, when all the previous four versions of the Bible were: CONFORMED to the version of 1611 or the Authorized Version.

If books written by White people being Cited as References, bothers you:
Use Additional references, from Scholars of African Descent. That’s Fine!

But what your saying/writing does not match up with the Comparable 1611 Version.

If you want me to learn something New, you must be willing to TEACH ME.

For Believing without Due Dilligence is “Blissful Ignorance.”

Please continue to Post. I’ll be back, & will respond: I promise.

MY MOMMA QUESTIONED MY DADDY-AND THEIR STILL MARRIED AND HAVE BEEN FOR 45 YEARS

HELL I’M GLAD SHE DID-OR THERE WOULD BE TIMES THE BILLS WOULDN’T GET PAID OR FOOD WOULDN’T BE ON THE TABLE OR THE RGE AND BILLS WOUDN’T GET PAID-NOT BECAUSE HE DIDN’T MAKE THE MONEY-BUT BECAUSE HE WOULD THROW IT AWAY BEING IRRESPONSIBLE HANGING OUT WITH THE FELLAS ON FRIDAY AND PARTYING-

HE FELT AS THOUGH HE WORKED HARD ALL WEEK SO WHY COULDN’T HE ENJOY HIMSELF?

WELL MAMMA QUESTIONED HIM BECAUSE HANGING OUT WITH THE FELLAS ON A REGULAR BASIS WAS QUITE COSTLY AND IN ORDER TO HAVE WHAT THEY HAVE A HOUSE THEY OWN AND IS PAID FOR AND THREE CHILDREN THEY PUT THROUGH COLLEGE-WOULDN’T HAVE BEEN ACHIEVED IF SHE HADN’T CHALLENGED HIM

IN FACT HIS HARD WORK AND HER KNOWLEDGE IS THE KEY TO THEIR LONG LASTING MARRIAGE-IF ANYTHING A STRONG WOMAN MAKES AN EVEN STRONGER MAN

JUST THINK IF SHE HAD NOT QUESTIONED HIM AND ALLOWED HIM TO CONTINUE TO BE FRIVOLOUS WITH HIS SPENDING WHERE WOULD OUR FAMILY BE?

AND YES HER QUESTIONING AT TIMES WAS LOUD AND SHE WAS VERY ADAMANT ABOUT IT-HELL WHEN YOU TALKING TO SOMEBODY WHO IS OBVIOUSLY HELL BENT ON DOING THINGS HIS WAY BECAUSE HE’S THE MAN-THAT”S THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN GET THEM TO UNDERSTAND AND THAT’S BY RAISING SOME HELL

THIS PUNK ASS NIGGA LITTLE FEELINGS GET HURT WHEN A WOMAN CHALLENGES HIM AND RAISES HER VOICE-

HOW MANY OF YOUR MOTHERS RAISED HELL WITH YOU TO GET UP AND GO TO SCHOOL? OR TO GET BETTER GRADES? OR TO NOT HANG OUT IN THE STREETS?

STOP BUYING INTO THIS BULLSHIT THAT WE HAVE TO CHANGE EVERYTHING ABOUT OURSELVES IN ORDER TO BE LOVED OR ACCEPTED BY WHITEY? OR THOSE WHO WANT TO BE WHITEY!

Who cares they can have that nigga!!

Tammy,
Why are you even on this blog? You pretend to be black but we all know yo ass is a dumb snow bunny. You are not wanted here you durrrrty racist bimbo.

@333,

Let’s talk about most, well we can’t talk about it because me and you are not even a grain of rice in the world. You can only speak about your experience with black people. When you say most you are speaking for more than half of the black people in this world what facts do you have to prove you have encountered more than half of the black people in this world?

Your generalization comment does not prove black people can not read: If you were to use your MBA, you would know she read your comments, however she did not comprehend them “Big Difference”…. now just because I have my deference’s with you should I now label most Asian women as being pointless???

To me it doesn’t make a difference what nationality you are, you are entitled to you opinion. However, you are speaking on a whole other world you know nothing about, because once again you don’t know most black people…. So your comments are a bit trivial.

@JUDAH

OH REALLY!

I GUESS I SHOULD BE CONCERNED IF A BLACK MEN VIEWS ME AS ANGRY HUH?

GUESS WHAT I REALLY DON’T CARE-AND YOU DIDN’T NOTICE MY OTHER POST HUH-

I GUESS I’M REALLY IRRATE-NOT REALLY GOING ON VACA-ENJOY YOUR HOLIDAY AND WEEKEND I SURELY WILL!

I don’t mind being passive in fact i am, but i don’t take it kindly to being judged as a black women he put us all in the bunch. He’s not serious in his attempts to find a nice african american female. He couldn’t be serious about his search becuase i know alot of good ones some being famous. He’s a producer/rapper who takes females for granted. Of course he’s going to run into hood rats. If you ask me it’s just a problem he’s going to have to deal with on his own. Tell me how many good females do you think Polow would run into considering his profession? I guess he can demand more because of his celebrity, but who want’s to give it to him? He’s probably just been dissed and can’t handle it. So his words really don’t apply to him maybe someone without as much luck as him, but not him.

F*** OUTTA HERE…..OH SO ANYBODY WHO DISAGREE WITH HIS IGNORANT A** IS SUPPOSED TO BE A “N**** AND A B****” NOW.LORD HELP HIM.HE’D BE DISAPPOINTED 2 KNOW THAT EVEN WHITE CHICKS DISAGREED WITH HIS UGLY A**.TRULY A B**** N*****:0

#2 It’s not about who he likes who cares, you don’t have to put your people down to defend who you prefer.

check out @ 108… they have a point. he is just an insecure brother with past issues in life and obviously too stupid to know when to keep his mouth shut… and at this rate…..he wont go far….whites will view him as a “ignorant loud mouth controversial “ni&&#r” and just cut him loose….. People ,,,let him continue hang himself…… just look at how they did OJ !!!! THEY WILL SOON TIRE OF HIM!!! (smile)

Yawnnnnnn @ 355 .. Im not giving out autographs today . Please stop following me around from post to post. You want to see my picture that bad ? Lmao .. My mother & father are “blacks” so I sure as hell want to know what I am If Im not ??

@362 Tammy… LOL

@Mallato

We can have a discussion about the other races but that will have to come at another time sis. The scriptures are very clear.

Hoe please! You don’t have to lie to kick it. Oh wait a minute. Yes you do!

@365 Why are you always e-stalking me ? Why do you always make TAMMY the topic of discussion ? Always a damn idiot roaming around this blog.

…he says he dates all kind of GIRLS…maybe that’s the problem…Cuz I damn sure can’t see any WOMEN falling for this guy…he needs to grow the hell up. AND his career is basically destroyed/

BTW…N’s & B’s — childish!

i couldn’t care less about his color preferences, but i think that his main malfunction is that he’s a misogynist.

he clearly has his stereotypes in his hands as he generalizes ALL women. he thinks that all black women are bullheaded, he thinks white women are slaves for him, and all this.

he doesn’t need a black woman, he doesn’t need a white woman, he doesn’t need a latina woman, he doesn’t need an asian woman, he doesn’t need ANY woman. it shouldn’t be another race war. this is just one fool who needs to shut the hell up while he’s still behind.

and most of all..I STILL don’t know who this fool is.

@Bailey

Sis, straight up, you got spirits on you. You sound ridiculous. You can’t bring all that angry black female, Queen Latifah, Sista Souljah, two steps from being a lesbian because I hate black men tough-talk nonsense to a real cat (Ecc 7:26-28). Stop the madnes and respect the statutes put forth by the Lord like you claim you do.

Lawwwd Polo is ignant ass… yes ignant.. not even classy enough to get the correct spelling word “ignorant”.

Fanaticism

Wow! I’m just enjoying reading the various points being made. very interesting - INDEED.. Side Bar - Polow Da Don can say and think however he feels about this whole issue. Doesn’t rock my boat one way or the other b/c that’s HIS opinion.. “His Truths” do not apply to me and my life, lol…so - whatever..

CTFU @ that fooliewang ass Asian hoe who calls herself knowing shit about black women. This means you post #306. Have a cup of Ramen noodles and sit the fuck down!!! Why you mad? Cuz nobody want yo flat ass, pug nose, squinty ass eyes, BEEYOTCH? Bitches like you kill me. Always throwing some educational shit up but then can’t write a proper fucking sentence. Such a waist? Naw, bitch. You’re such a waste. Bamboo-eatin hoe bag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ONE MORE THING… Quit posing near LV and Dolce shit… yeah money makes life great but your really showing your ignorance surrounding your whole life around it!!! if you have wealth and know you always will your smarter about yours, no need to be like look at me ” I can buy LV”. Those that have never had finer things and are afraid they’ll lose it, floss it around everywhere like polo in this picture. Get class, Nigga!!

368 posts? Why are we giving this fool all this attention?

LMAO @ the fact that Kmniles didn’t even bother commenting. Probably still trying to read all these dayum posts. Girl, do like I do. Only read posts from people you know that’s been commenting on here for a while and skim the rest.

And WTH happened to the chat room. Lizz, Ne, Lovely, DDS, Bashy, Candi…somebody holla back at me and let me know what the deal is.