THE ROUND UP: DAVID BANNER vs. AL SHARPTON | MOURNING WIDOWER IS MAD AT BRANDY | VING RHAMES FINALLY SPEAKS
Friday, August 17, 2007

A feud between Rev. Al Sharpton and rapper David Banner (yes you read that right) has been heating up the net all week. In an interview with SOHH.COM last week, David Banner told Al to “suck [his] d*ck”; among other things. The Reverend then shot back with his own official response that basically fell short of calling Banner a “faggot”.
In response to Sharpton’s statement, David Banner sent out an open letter via Eurweb yesterday and called out all Black leaders for their lack of action within the community. Read a snippet from his letter after the cut.
Stop Attacking The Kids
To all the black ‘so called leaders’. Al, Oprah, Jesse, etc, etc, etc… I’m saddened by your current direction and current ‘pet projects’ you guys have taken under your wing at the expense of Young Black America. As an urban professional living in this crazy world, I dare ask, who are you leading? I listen to what you say, I hear you complain about the youth, and about the direction of our lives, the kids, and where Black America is going and yet I still ask – who are you guys leading? And most importantly, where are we going? Do we know the goal we are trying to reach before we get there? Have we identified our end before articulating our means to an end! [READ THE FULL LETTER HERE]
Talk about drama. Let’s see what Al is going to say in response to this one.
WHY IS SHE PARTYING WHILE I’M MOURNING?!

The widower of the woman who died in a car accident involving R&B singer Brandy Norwood is mad as hell at Brandy for going out and partying it up while he’s still mourning his wife’s death.
The attorney for Awatef Aboudihaj’s husband, Marquane Hdidou, told TMZ.COM that his client is extremely angry that he sees pictures of Brandy out clubbing so soon after the crash, which happened last December.
A judge also allowed Marquane Hdidou, his wife’s two kids from a previous marriage, her parents and a woman also involved in the car accident to combine their lawsuits into one.
VING RHAMES SPEAKS OUT ON DOG INCIDENT

Ving Rhames released a statement Monday offering condolences over the death of his caretaker, who was mauled by the actor’s dogs at Rhames’s Brentwood, Calif. home earlier this month.
“I was out of the country when this shocking and terrible tragedy occurred on my property,” the statement reads. “Jacob Adams was not just a devoted employee – he was also a dear friend. I want to offer my heartfelt condolences to his family.”
Although Rhames goes on to say that a “coroner’s report confirmed that my dogs were not the cause” of Adams’ death, the Los Angeles Department of Coroner tells PEOPLE that an autopsy is still pending, and no initial findings have been released.








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76.
Landon
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
NO OFFENSE, BUT WHAT DO THEY EXPECT BRANDY TO DO,SHE DIDN’T KNOW THAT WOMAN,SHE CAN’T SIT AROUND MOPING FOR THE REST OF HER LIFE, I’M SURE THAT SHE IS TERRIBLY SORRY FOR WHAT SHE CAUSED.
VING RHAMES, THE DOGS LOOK MEAN
DAVID BANNER JUST WANT SOME MEDIA ATTENTION BECAUSE HE HASN;T CAME OUT WITH AN ALBUM AND HE DON;T WANT TO BE FORGOTTON,YEAH THEY HARD ON RAPPERS, BUT YOU DON’T SEE THE HOTT RAPPERS COMPLAINING,BECAUSE THEY DON’T CARE THEY STILL GONNA KEEP DOIN WHAT THEY DO
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Jasmine
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
Futhermore, why are people relying on Sharpton, Oprah or J.Jackson to save the day? Who designated them the voice for all Black people…if you don’t like something in your community take the situation into your own hands. Thats the problem now too many people are sitting back waiting on these so-called “leaders” to solve the problems within our communities. ***~***NEWSFLASH***~*** These people don’t even reside in our communities themselves, why should they give a fyck? And Sharpton jumps on topics that will get him press because, this is a paying gig for him…meaning if it isn’t a guarantee he will be featured on some TV news show or on the radio airwaves 9 times outta 10 he doesn’t give a damn.
Instead of pointing the finger…do something damnit. You can attend the meetings your Senators and State Representives have when they are voting on local laws to be passed…they are PUBLIC sessions. Actually, sit in one…and see what plans they have in store for your community. Start petitions for more support for our communities…go to the County or City Council board when you notice illegal shyt going on in your neighbood…keep reporting shyt even if it gets redundant and keep a record of it for legal purposes to get petitions signed or if you have to go to court to fight for your community. When kids get killed b.cuz of local thugs in your neighborhood don’t shake your head and cry for the innocent when you plan to do absolutely nothing but complain.
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I 100% agree and co-sign.
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Way 2 Brooklyn
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
GO SIT DOWN BANNER!!
Never mess with a man with a PERM!!!!!!
79.
ja
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
When are my people going to wake up and see that there are really no party lines anymore. I dislike Hillary Clinton and Obama, but that is not why the will both lose the election. It is because people like Jessie Jackson, Oprah, and Al Sharpton add their two cent and they don’t know the issues and they are misleading the youth. I believe that David Banner is not allowed to vote anymore, so he is anger at the people who pretend to be on his side at election time but are all over the place any other time. He’s not GAY because he made that statement. He’s upset. Like a lot of us are when we say thing that are out of line.
80.
ja
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
@ Jasmine
Cosign
81.
M E RENEGADE
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
AL SHARPTON IS PERMED OUT TROUBLE-MAKING PIMP/CROOK AND I’M TIRED OF HIS MONEY-GRUBBING ASS!
82.
NoMoSoul
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
David Banner was disrespectful for telling Sharpton to suck his *ick. Just by making such an absurd statment he proved Sharpton, Jesse, and Oprah’s point. You don’t go around speaking fouly about your elders, no matter your opinion.
I always preach this message. No one can make you change. No one can make you do anything. They can reiterate the need for change, but it won’t mean a thing. Not unless it’s a personal choice.
We have to be the leader’s of our own lives. I say this b/c its true. You have to BECOME the change you want to see in the world. Oprah is already on point. She may have her flaws but I have nothing against her. Sharpton and Banner. The both of you have a lot of work to do as far as indvidual growth goes. If you think you can make a difference in the world, then become that difference and live your life by your own motto.
Instead of attacking Sharpton, Banner needs to undergo introspection cause bruh, u aint perfect. Sharpton, Jesse, and Oprah have way more class than you. At least they’re out in the community trying to make a change. What are you doing? Rapping about bitches and hoes.
83.
ROUNDNBRWN
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
I AGREE WITH DAVID BANNER!!! WHY IS OPRAH OVER THERE IN AFRICA, BUILDING SCHOOLS, WHEN THERE ARE PLENTY OF POOR BLACK KIDS IN AMERICA WHO NEED HELP WITH THEIR TUITION FOR COLLEGE AND JUST HELP LIVING PERIOD! JESSE AND AL NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT THIS MAN IS SAYING…HE MAKES A LOT OF SENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
84.
Candace
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
Okay he’s doing way too much!
I understand he’s grieving, but he can’t MAKE Brandy grieve for someone she didn’t know personally. I’m sure she’ll never forget what happened and that she feel guilty, but after all, it was an ACCIDENT. She didn’t set out to kill this woman.
Who’s to say she isn’t going to the club to get her mind off of the whole thing?
If she wasn’t a celebrity, he wouldn’t be doing this.
85.
Shay43
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
#74
what are you talking about “our leaders” dont hear things through media to get the information..I have a cousin who is an activist & a laywer and she hears situations b4 its on the news or even if it doesnt even get there…
second of all I didnt say JESSE JACKSON needs to stop what he is doing in CHICAGO or leave what hes doing to hndle jena 6 read what I write and understand it b4 you respond…
Bring attention to it…like he did with IMUS im sure when tragically those kids were dying he was still on his mission for that cause & bringing his statements about IMUS
and he has heard of it bc the parents of jena 6 contacted these “black leaders”
86.
ROUNDNBRWN
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
@ #24….DON’T AL NEED TO CARRY HIMSELF AND JESSE A$$ TO LOUISIANA!!!!!!!!!!!! STOP ARGUING WITH THAT MAN AND SHOW US WHO Y’ALL REPRESENT!
87.
ja
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton are men of God but they are Democrats first. They are not in LA because it is not a big election state.
88.
angelgisselle
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
Right on #9 that was the most politically correct statement i’ve read on this site in a very long time, Kudos……. As for #18, who the fuck is Gor???? Don’t you mean God, you jackass! Forgive me Jesus. But you people have got to learn to say what u mean and mean what u say. #18 i doubt very seriously that you were involved in any of the Katrina efforts. So clearly you have no idea what it’s like to have that hate in your heart for the people who r telling u how to fix your broken home and or communities, but won’t help. Stop trying to tell people how to be angry. Go to bed!
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Lenox138
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
Personally I do like David Banner, I remember when rappers started doing this golden ticket thing with their cds, like if u buy their cd and there was a ticket in it then you get a cool prize like a car,money or even a chance to meet the rapper. I believe Jay-z was doing this slim shady, and I want to say T.I as well, but David Banner was the only who gave away a school scholarship. And I’ve seen Mr.Banner speak and is very intelligent and really tries to help the community in his home town of Mississippi. Now what he said might not be the most appropriate, but he was probably very heated… and you know the rest, especially when some has strong feeling about a matter and is not thinking before they speak. Lord knows that Mr Sharpton has said something in things in his time.
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angelgisselle
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
PS don’t you think if he cared about his title (reverend), he would stop spending so much time at awards shows and album release parties. and he definately wouldn’t have released statement which went on to suggest that Banner is gay. “Vengance is mine sayeth the Lord….” Right???
91.
NoMoSoul
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
They went too far with Imus. I didnt agree with his statements but I don’t feel he should have been fired. The same with Isaiah Washington. And please, we really need to stop playing the race card. Especially these celebrities: Foxy brown, Vivica, Isaiah, etc.
@83. So you really believe that children in Africa have it better than kids in America? Even blk kids in the ghetto? They barely have HALF of what the poorest Americans have. Not to mention the worst of AIDS. It’s Oprah’s money and she can do whatever the hell she wants with it. She doesn’t have to give aid to anyone. We shouldn’t look to Oprah to be our guardian angel. Like i mentioned b4, we’re the leader’s of our own lives. Take care of yourself and your own education. If Oprah wants to help then that’s her decision to make. But if you want to make your life right then it’s up to you to make those radical decisions that will only benefit you.
92.
get_me_bodied
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
I’M SORRY, BRANDY CAN SING AND I LOVED HER WEAVE PHOTO SHOOT, BUT SHE IS NOT CUTE AT ALL! GOTDAMN GIRL! GET CHASELF 2GETHA. AND THAT WIDOWER CAN GO TO HELL, HE JUST WANTS SOMEONE TO GRIEVE WITH HIS AZZ. IT WAS AN ACCIDENT, BRANDY HAS MOVED ON, DAMN, PPL KILL ME, LOL
93.
cbmoney92
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
DAVID BANNER IS MORE THAN 100% CORRECT. I KNEW IT WAS SOME REASON WHY I LIKED THAT NI*** CAUSE HE ONE OF THE REALEST
PEOPLE IN THE GAME AND HE SPEAK REAL SHIT
94.
ja
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
@NoMoSoul
I agree with you for the most part on race, but I have been to Africa with the Millitary and on Vactions. I can tell that in alot of ways it is like America. Did you know that African College students can recieve special funding to attend school in the states. There are some bad areas here that look like some areas over there. Its scary because we are suppose to be advance right. And there AIDS Problem is not far from ours. Just because BET stop showing WRAP IT UP spots dosen’t mean we fixed the problem
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AIJUSWANNASAY
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
BILL IT’S FELT, I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE A JOKE FOR A PERSON TO USE LANGUAGE LIKE THAT IN ADDRESSING ANY ISSUE…BUT I DO THINK THAT HIS FOLLOW UP COMMENT WAS MUCH MORE ON POINT ON WHAT HE MEANT.
GOD’S PEACE & BLESSINGS
FYI: I AM A MENTOR FOR A YOUTH ORGANIZATION. I HAVE ALSO STARTED A CAMPAIGN TO RAISE MONEY FOR AFRICANS IN DARFUR, SUDAN DISPLACED BY THE TERRORISTS-JANJAWEED. I ALSO VOULNTEER AT A FOOD SHELTER, I’VE RAISED FUNDS FOR CANCER RESEARCH & I EVEN GIVE BLOOD TIME TO TIME. BUT HOW MUCH POWER DO I HAVE IN DRAWING ATTENTION TO ISSUES OF BLACK POVERTY, BLACK HEALTH, BLACK CRIME, BLACK EDUCATION, ETC.??? NOT VERY MUCH!
DAVID BANNER CHOSE THOSE INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE THEY ARE SELF- PROFESSED LEADERS IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY THAT HAVE “POWER.” POWER TO CHANGE *UCKED UP ISSUES FOR OTHER BLACKS WHO DON’T HAVE THE PLATFORM TO CREATE ATTENTION FOR CHANGE TO HAPPEN.
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Mrs. Grapevine
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
I had to defend David Banner, too. Hip-hop did not create the things they rap about. That doesn’t mean they are not responsible for their lyrics. The big CEOs want little kids to rap about crap so they can get richer. Once again the CEOs are pimping these kids, and instead of going after the CEOs, black leaders are attacking the kids.
At least David Banner is trying to do something for them. He’s not a stupid rapper just talking, he’s someone with first hand experience of what these kids go through from day to day. Black people get a little education and they can talk about problems until they are blue in the face, but not many or doing what they need to do to fix it. All this fighting is just making the CEOs richer.
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bsb1216
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
This whole issue is just amazing to me. No one want to take responsibilty for anything so lets put it off on someone else. It is not the balck leaders fault so it must be hip hop. Its not hip hop its white people. But lets stop passing the blame and deal with the situation at hand. Lets realize that we all had a hand in why things are the way they are. Whether it is a B**** or H** in your lyrics, or it is you not saying anything uplifting to those dudes just hanging out on the corner when you knew they should have been in school. The problem is that everyone thinks it is not their responsibility and they wait around for someone else to make the change. Start with yourself. And don’t delude yourself into thinking that people dont see you and you are not a role model for somebody. Because even if you don’t know it someone is watching you and looking up to you. So remember that when you go out and have three babies by three different men (you may have a cousin that wants to grow up and be just like you). Remember someone is watching you when you go out and sell those drugs that are destroying our community. Remember someone is watching you when you speak and smile to others you see on the street. Remeber someone is watching you when you help that old lady with her bags or open the car door for your girlfirend. Someone is watching and what you do and say it taken in by others. It is all of our responsibilities. So David take responsibility for your lyrics. Kids are taught to curse at extrememly young ages even if their parents don’t use profanity around them because of some song they may have listened to with their friend. Talk about your situation of growing up in poverty stricken neighborhoods but don’t glorify it and make it seem like this life will get you fine women and nice cars. Everyone has a responsibility to the youth it is time we start taking that reponsibility a lot more seriously. Oprah, Al sharpton, David Banner, Ludacris, me and you included.
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the real cookie
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
“Stop Attacking The Kids”, how about “Stop Attacking the Woman”!
These rappers kill me. They act like they are the only people with the right to freedom of speech. The same way they have a right to say what they want is the same we we have a right to call them out on it. They want to make million’s disrespecting woman, calling each other nigga and glorifying a gangsta lifestyle most of them have never even lived and then they expect us, to support them and praise them for how much money they make and the little piecmeal work they do for charity. That’s like the dope man coming through the hood giving out toys at christmas. Get the fuck outta here!
Some of these rappers are fucking idiots. I don’t care how many businesses you own, if you have to make a living disrespecting YOUR OWN FUCKING PEOPLE, you are a fucking idiot. Slave traders were business men too and so are drug dealers. Owning a business and making paper is NOT and accomplishment in and of itself, especially when it’s done at someone elses expense.
Don’t they realize the only reason gansta rap is so big is because it’s done at the EXPENSE of black people. Do you think if these brothers were talking about some real shit and trying to start a fucking revolution in black America they would be as paid and popular as they are? As long as they call each other nigga, add to the ongoing negative depiction of black woman and glorify violence, white records execs and their black counterparts will continue to give them the thumbs up and roll out the red carpet.
I don’t believe in censorship, everyone has a right to listen to what they want to and I do believe that parents should be responsible for their own kids, but rappers should excersice some personal responsibility and stop acting like big BABY’s when people call them out on their shucking and jiving - and yes that’s exactly what it is.
As for Rev. Al - NEXT! He and David Banner are both doing this for attention.
However I do feel as though older black people have a right to address the “hip hop genenration”, because if it weren’t for them you or other no person of color in America, would enjoy the freedoms you have today. These people STOOD THE FUCK UP! They got jailed and beat by police and bitten by dogs just to go to do things like go school. Oppressed people across the world were inspired by their actions. They left all it to us to carry the tourch and now we make millions call each other nigga and bitch! And it’s applauded.
Such a shame
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cbmoney92
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
I CO-SIGN FOR # 48 I AGREE WITH EVERY WORD
100.
cdnyc
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
@98: You really said something!!!
101.
Me
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
I agree 100% with Mr. Banner. I felt like he spoke the 110% truth about the matter, and broke it down to a point where you have no way but to overstand what the reality is. I think he should be the offical black leader for us young african americans. Cause he anit afraid, while Al sharp and others are.
He was right when he said that they were disconnted from the youth of today. He was right when he asked lady O, “why she didn’t have any women on a panel about the use of b*tch and h*e in songs today”? He was rigth when we said every black family knows not to put your dirt out there with out letting your family know first. He was right on so many different levels.
I really take Mr. Banner ask someone not to play with, and that alone makes me agree with him even more. I think every on in the world needs to read his letter, you could learn a thing or two
Go David get’em baby!
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ja
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
@bsb1216
Bill and I had this talk yesterday with the Video that was posted. As I always say it starts at home. I co-sign on everything except the part about who’s watch what. Parents need to be more proactive with there kids. Be a better parent. Talk to your kids about issues, teach them what the American dream is. Teach them what love is. Better yourself. The mother and father are the two biggest role models in a childs like. You are going to go where you get to knowledge. If your parents arent giving it to you yhen you going to find it somewhere. And it is so hard for a parent to say I need take bcare of my child better than this, but it is easy to say Oh you on TV need to provide a better example. Even if you work two jobs your kid still need your time and your guidence. Make time.
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NoMoSoul
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
#97 & 98, I couldn’t have said it any better. It starts with each one of us. It’s a personal matter. A personal choice. That’s where the change has to start. I know I’m doing my part and I know I’m not alone.
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tAMMY
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
@ 102 cosign .
105.
jewel13
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
David made some good points in his letter. I didnt see Al anywhere near that Jersey schoolyard. There is no way in the world you can compare Al Sharpton to Martin, Malcolm, Rosa or any other Civil Rights leader who made an impact in the 50’s and 60’s.
Somebody in the government, has Al on the payroll and if he isn’t getting paid don’t count on him coming to your nearby hood to make a change. We have to start with our own children and pray for the best, we can’t sit around waiting on others.
Brandy, I’m glad you’ve gotten on with your life, its time for the victim’s wife to do the same. I’m not trying to be mean, but anger against Brandy is not gonna bring her husband back. BTW, Ms. Hdiodou you’d be better off talking to a counselor and not TMZ.
Everytime I see Ving, I picture him scrambling eggs naked in the kitchen. I know yall seen BabyBoy. lmao
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brittanymo
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
I agree with David Banner 100%. How in the hell is Oprah gonna have a panel of guest to discuss the derogatory language of hip-hop when they aren’t the ones using it. That’s like her asking me to speak on “How does it feel to be rich” when I’m not. I love Oprah but she got some fucked up ways too. And as for Al Sharpton ass, he’s forever trying to speak on issues that shadows our communities but his wrenched ass is never putting in a 110% effort to solve them.
-For the Brandy situation, Ol’ boy needs to chill out. She is not about to be sitting at home everyday mourning the death of his wife. Its a very sad situation but damn what else can she really do but to show up to court and pay whatever fines they need for her to pay. I guess he wants her to schedule a specific time everyday where she dedicates it his wife, get real!!! Her life doesn’t stop just because his wife passed. She has a family of her own as well
107.
Natural Mystique
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
The whole situation between these two is an embarrassment.
108.
wow
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
that dog is cross eyed!!!! that explains a lot.
David Banner (who ever you are) - go sit ya country ass down. NEXT!
109.
brittanymo
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
@ 105 Jewel13, I think you got the victims confused. The husband didn’t die, it was his wife that died and he’s the one thats mourning and complaining.
110.
J
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
They need to get off Brandy. It has been 8 months people. What does the Husband think that she is going to do, just sit in her house for eight months. I have been following this story and after the accident you did not see Brandy at all. She has just started coming out and I personally think it is a good thing for her to do. She should not beat herself up over this. People make bad judgements all the time on the road, and it is sad that someone died, but life has to move on. FACTS: She was not DRUNK, OR ON HER CELL PHONE. Her speed was 65, but they are looking into that now, to make sure that information is correct. The last thing that I want to point out is that I went to California not to long ago and drove in that traffic, everyone out there follows close to the car in front of them. If that lady slammed on brakes, I am sure Brandy tried just not in time, and the impact of a Range compared to that small Toyota, come on people give Brandy a break, she did not mean it and if she could take it back, this would not be a issue. My heart goes out to the family for losing a love one, BUT no amount of money will bring her back. I hope the judge awards the children some money, but that is it. The insurance policy can pay the rest of them, it is seriously all about money.
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Chris Law
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
I completely agree with Banner. The problem that he will face is that “our leaders” do not associate his type face/demeanor with being intelligence so some will brush him off. The truth is that the black youth is in crisis. It saddens me tremendously to see how easily a life can be taken by one of our own…and over foolishness. In recent years, Sharpton has only shown up ( or so it appears) at functions that high light him, but he don’t really want it with some of the hiphop heads…there is too much intelligence and first hand experiences that they can talk about that he can’t relate to because when he made it out, he moved out. Its just like some of us trying to tell him that the civil rights era and the hardships that they experienced was just “play-play” and they took it too seriously. They don’t take us seriously because, unforrtunately, there are too many of us that only talk about bling, hoes, cars, etc. In our defense, although some of the so called rappers are just ignorant, there are many of them that choose to talk about those things to laugh so they wont cry. Its hard out here. There are not many people that haven’t gone through times in their lives that make people want to give up on them, but, what is someone had given up on Oprah when she was hoeing at a young age, what if people gave up on Jesse (the preacher) when he had his hoe on the side, and for me, Al has always been questionable. He was raised by James Brown, so you know he was invovled in some “suspect” shit. Basically, my point is that the black youth is hurting… they may not even know and in order to bring about change, the leaders have to be involved and not just spectate. We are not children, but a lot of our emotional growth was stunted because of sittuations that we faced as children. How could a child have stopped his dad from beating his mother or stopped his mother from doing drugs, or whatever the problem was. The youth are like children throwing a tantrum and the “leaders” need to force a “hug” on them even if they don’t want it to ease the pain.
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ja
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
@the real cookie
When You talk about older Black People, Who are you talking about. Yea there where some older black people who stood and were flowless, but where do you thing kids got the music and lyrics they are using today. They got them for the older generations. Look at some of the song that they are sampling. And remember The music from the 60’s, 70’s 80’s, 90’s recieve the same flack that these young miss guided souls are getting. I know ya dont think David Banner got raping about guns and drugs from Tupac. It goes way deeper. Thats why we need to rasie our kids, and stop letting Jay Z and TI dictate what go on in our house. And maybe we will have more Commons and Mos Defs
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Chris Law
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
@36
Banner said that we (as in the rappers) are not always right. I think the point he is trying to make is that life experiences are what bring about the rap content and not vice versa. I understand you also in that not every black youth has the type of experiences that most rap speak about and in order to “fit in” they will venture out to try and find it to be “credible”
114.
gee
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
WAIT IS BANNER SERIOUS…..WHAT THE FUCK IS HE DOING FOR THE BLACK COMMUNITY BUT PUTTING OUT KOON ASS MUSIC..YES SHARPTON AND OTHER BLACK LEADERS OF TODAY ARE NO WHERE NEAR THE COMPARISON of leader from back in the day…but again who is he to through stones when he lives in a glass house…his new single is called “9mm” my point exactly ..
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bill
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
David Banner Interview:
07/30/07 - David Banner - Can’t tell me nothin
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David Banner’s seen a lot during his time in the game. Originally one-half of the duo Crooked Lettaz, Banner made his debut alongside fellow Mississippi rapper Kamikaze with 1999’s Grey Skies. Released through East Coast-based Penalty Records, the Southern fried record barely made a dent in SoundScan charts. The following year, Banner broke out on his own with Them Firewater Boyz, Vol. 1 (Big Face Records), which featured appearances by Ras Kass and N.O.R.E. and sold over 7,000 units independently. National prominence didn’t come until 2003, when the MC/producer released two solid albums—Mississippi: The Album and MTA2: Baptized in Dirty Water—on Universal Records. Containing hits like “Like a Pimp” and “Cadillac on 22s,” Mississippi easily earned a gold plaque, while MTA2 stalled out around 280,000 units. Going on to produce records for other artists like Nelly (“E.I. [Tipdrill Remix]”) and Trick Daddy (“Thug Holiday”), Banner returned to rap with 2005’s Certified. Spearheaded by the overly-commercial lead single “Play” and overshadowed by the impact of Hurricane Katrina, the album sold a paltry 327,000 units. Regardless of sales figures, Banner’s accomplishments speak for themselves: a slew of production credits, a budding acting career (last year he played opposite Samuel L. Jackson in Black Snake Moan), a critically acclaimed Cartoon Network series, That Crook’d ’Sipp, and humanitarian work through his charity organization, Heal The Hood. Now, the outspoken MC says he’s crafted one of the best albums of 2007 with Greatest Story Ever Told, which is due out this October through SRC/Universal. A month after the passing of his father, Zeno Crump Jr., Banner speaks with XXLMag.com about the high expectations for Greatest Story Ever Told, the continued impact of Hurricane Katrina on the South and reveals his controversial political stance.
What can we expect from your new album, Greatest Story Ever Told?
It’s funny because I actually got a “Negro Please” in XXL when I said that I was gonna have one of the greatest albums in recent history. I honestly think I got the best rap album in the last three years.
That’s a pretty bold statement.
I’m a humble guy. I come from Mississippi, so people have the tendency not to give me my just due. And I’m not taking that this year. I got money [but] I was never the type of person to display that. I always wanted to be the humble guy ’cause your parents tell you when you’re humble; those are the guys that win. That ain’t true. I just realized this year that I gotta play the game. I’ma show these cats I got more talent and money than most of these dudes. Some cats may out-rhyme me and there’s a couple of cats that maybe can do better beats, but I don’t think there’s a better package than me.
Do you anticipate any backlash for this new cocky outlook?
It’s crazy, because people criticized T.I. when he said he was the king. Now what’s everybody calling him? When Lil Wayne said he was the “best rapper alive since the best rapper retired,” everybody gave him flack. Now what’s everybody sayin’? It’s like God spoke the world into fruition and I’ma have to do the same. This is the Greatest Story Ever Told. I don’t think there’s any writer who can look me in the eyes as a man, not lie and say I don’t have one of the best albums in recent history. They can put my album up against any XXL [rated] album.
Why do you think your last album, Certified, didn’t sell as well as you would’ve liked?
Certified had more to do with [Hurricane] Katrina. People forget that Certified dropped the Tuesday Katrina happened. [Editor’s note: Hurricane Katrina actually made landfall in New Orleans on August 29, 2005. Certified wasn’t released until September 20, 2005.] What you also gotta understand is when I went out there, as much as I was on TV, did you ever hear me talk about Certified? I never did. That wasn’t important to me. I thought people were gonna come back and say, “Damn, David Banner stood up and did the right thing, we gonna support him.” People didn’t do that.
Does the general public understand the conditions Hurricane Katrina survivors are still living in?
They don’t, and to be real with you, they really don’t give a fuck. Katrina didn’t hit New Orleans, my nigga. The eye of Katrina hit Mississippi! It was the residuals from Katrina that New Orleans caught. What happened was, millions of dollars were allocated to the rebuilding of the levees in New Orleans. The local government in New Orleans only used half of that to patch up the levees. If the money that was allocated for the levees would’ve really been used to rebuild the levees, New Orleans would still be what it was before.
Is the government really trying to improve the Black experience in this country?
Of course not. We all know that. And what we have to understand is people in the government and their friends—the hierarchy—they make money from our pain. I’ll give you an example: in LA, there’s some type of elephants, I don’t know what they are, either albino or something. They’re spending like $16 million to build a sanctuary for two rare elephants, but they’ll only give $1 to 3 million to stop gang violence or give people in the inner city money so kids will have something to do. The truth is America wants to continuously keep our people at anarchy so it will hide the things that they’re doing [and] so we don’t have time to focus on the real matters at hand.
What can Black folks do to combat that?
As long as Black people are keeping other Black people under control, it’s [gonna stay] cool. I’m not a big fan of Martin Luther King, Jr., and you can print this. Martin Luther King was telling niggas to stay under control. We shall overcome, be good, hold hands and shit. Fuck that. They not singing when they coming to beat our ass. The Ku Klux Klan don’t come and sing. I’m not saying Martin Luther King was a bad man. All I’m saying is that they only fleshed out the era of his life when he was keeping Black people under control. The reason he probably died was because him and Malcolm X were starting to believe the same thing. Malcolm was believing all White people weren’t bad and Martin Luther King realized they definitely ain’t all good. And that’s when they both died. Any of our leaders out here who stand for anything and they ain’t dead, they fed. That’s my shit: if you ain’t dead, you’re a fed.
What about Al Sharpton and his campaign to censor hip-hop?
Fuck Al Sharpton. And I hate Jesse Jackson. Anybody that got something to say about it, they can come see me. All the things that Al Sharpton could be talking about, all the woes in the Black community… Dude, if you don’t agree with what we do, come talk to us. Then they get up on TV in front of all these other people and they crucify their own children so you can get in good with your investors and the rest of these White people. And I’m very disappointed in our parents and the fact that they did the same thing with rock ‘n’ roll [and] jazz. Anything that’s not church music—which once again keeps us under control—then it’s the devil’s music. That’s bullshit!
Saigon recently said in an interview with XXLMag.com that he wanted to talk to you about changing the title of your album, Greatest Story Ever Told, because it’s similar to his upcoming LP, The Greatest Story Never Told. What’s your take on the situation?
I don’t really give a shit. I’m not trippin’. He do his thing, I do my thing. I didn’t get my album title from him [and] he didn’t get his from me. We were just thinking on the same levels around the same time. I’m cool with dude, but it ain’t really too much to be done. My shit is on its way. And I don’t think our markets cross enough for it to really be that much of a problem. And with me, dawg, we have a tendency to fall into some shit and people want to make it something bigger than what it is. It ain’t that big of a deal. If dude wants to find me, he knows how to get at me.
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Chris Law
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
@69
Banner’s intelligence is not what’s in question. The remainder of his letter signifies some degree of intelligence. How many times, in a closed situation, have you said some unintelligent sh*t out of emotional frustration? He made those comments behind closed doors during a conversation, not during the course of an interview
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BAMBAM
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
@ #98 THE REAL COOKIE - I get’s the chills. Tell it.
@ #62 SUCH MAGNIFICENCE - True scientifics.
@ #77 JASMINE - Class is in session.
@ #82 NOMOSOUL - I’m following you.
I think David had every right to speak his mind, and his opinions and feelings sre valid. I think it was mentioned earlier that he has a degree in English. If that’s so, then he should know better than to make an ignorant ass statement as the one the made. Why come off as an uneducated buffooon? In case some of you don’t know, most educated people don’t acknowledge, take serious, or even engage in debate with those who can’t seem to put together and articulate intelligent and cohesive talking points. Hence the rather humorous reply from Sharpton’s camp.
He totally negated the power of his statements by using unnecessary profanity. What if your kid came across those statements? Sure, maybe they’ve heard worse, but in my opinion, if you’re a high profile person, please put some thought into what your saying. Our kids are listening. Don’t let your stupid sounding statements become your legacy. Or release a statement through your damn publicist.
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ja
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
@114. GEE
PUMP YA BRAKE. David Banner is the only one bringing attn: to Miss. Everybody else is making movies and crying over LA after Katrina. He is one of the only artist from that area who put his career on hold to help out. And he didnt wait for no damn FEMA to start making a difference. He didn’t got to his other house and hang out. And while Beyonce, Usher, Spike Lee where in a area that was and has the abillty to counter money from tourist, He stayed in the Miss and by himself with the community got it the government assitance it need. Without the flash.
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Candace
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
I’m cosigning #19 & #41 !!!!
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BAMBAM
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
@116 I believe it was an interview and on the record.
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MIXED QT
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
IM SO SICK AND TIRED OF PEOPLE ALWAYS PLACING BLAME ON HIP HOP RAPPERS FOR THE ACTIONS OF THEIR OWN DAMN KIDS. LIKE THEY SAY IN CHURCH THE DEVIL CANT MAKE YOU DO ANYTHING YOU CHOOSE TO MAKE THAT DESCISION. SAME WITH RAPPERS THEY DONT SAY AYE DO THIS AND MAKE ANYONE DO IT. YOU RAISE YOUR KIDS NOT THEM. KIDS BEEN ACTING A FOOL BEFORE RAPPING BEGAN SO TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOURSELVES. TAKE SO MUCH TIME CONCERNED ABOUT THE WORDS HOE BITCH AND NIGGA WHEN ITS WAY MORE DEPRESSING AND IMPORTANT THINGS GOING ON IN THE WORLD. IF ALL THE RAPPERS STOP RAPPING WE WILL STILL HAVE KIDS CUSSING AND SO ON. POINT BLANK RAISE YOUR OWN DAMN KIDS BECAUSE YOU THE ONE HAD THEM AND STOP TAKING THE EASY WAY OUT BY BLAMING HIP HOP FOR YOUR BAD PARENTING.
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redbeansrice
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
David Banner said that was not during a “formal interview”. However, he did essentially shoot himself in the foot because people read the headline and totally disregard any merit that the letter has. But, that’s how things work in a media saturated society.
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JUDAH
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
I believe that the brother telling Sharpton to suck his rod was overboard and crass, but it was in a hip hop interview. Cats feel like they have to “keep it real” and talk reckless in those type of interviews. I’ll give the man the benefit of the doubt, for now, and guess that he was saying that for effect. Like Bill said though, I don’t understand why a man would tell another man to do that.
One thing I will say though is that David Banner did hit on many very cogent points in my opinion. I like the fact that he mentioned that these so-called “black leaders” have no ultimate goal. I like the fact that he is at least trying to address the root of these different issues and problems that black people have. The rap music is off as hell but it’s a result of the problems in the environment more than a cause of the problems in the community. The crack epidemic was at it’s peak in the 1980’s at a time when rappers were performing, what today, would be considered nursery rhymes, with no profanity.
Oprah needed and still needs to be addressed because she’s a bully, an opportunist, and a phony. She’s only interested in making herself look intelligent because she knows that she cannot strive against someone that’s informed. Like the man David Banner said, if you have an issue with “misogynist” lyrics, then have the alleged perpetrators on your show and drill them. Instead she brings two homosexual rap executives, an alleged clergyman of the Lord, and a “conscious rapper” on her show to take the place of the real offenders. She, her studio audience, and the “Spellman girls” lambasted them like they wrote the treatment for Nelly’s “Tip Drill” video. Then again maybe that was the point. Any male negroes will do for a televised sacrifice. Those brothers on her show looked so unprepared for a debate it wasn’t even funny, it was pathetic.
In order for people to get treated with the respect befitting them, they should conduct themselves with respect. Anyone can call themselves a “minister” or a “reverend”. Those are flattering titles that only mean anything if that person is ready to really serve and speak the truth. Al Sharptongue only seems to use his stature as a preacher as a means to an end to achieve some form of stardom or pseudo-celebrity in this society. He should talk about someone being gay because he’s a homosexual his damn self according to some former cabinet members in his organization, lol.
Many of our elders don’t know a damn thing and yet they still want the respect befitting an elder. I don’t give a damn how old you are. If you’re a wine head, you’re a winehead and that gets no respect. The point of respecting your elders is because they’re supposed to be a source of wisdom and knowledge. Nowadays if you ask them a question they get as confounded as the youth (Job 32:7-9). Unfortunately many of our elderly are not elders.
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bill
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
I wanted to find out more about David Banner’s accomplishments, and I was very impressed to find this:
David Banner ‘Heals The Hood’ With Benefit Concerts
Friday September 16th 2005,
In an effort to support the Katrina Relief efforts, Mississippi native David Banner continues to spear-head support from his industry friends and has organized them for a series of star studded Hip-Hop benefit concerts in support of the Mississippi survivors of Hurricane Katrina.
Banner’s “Heal The Hood? Hurricane Relief Concert will be held in Atlanta at Philips Arena tomorrow (September 17) and is supported by many of David Banner’s music industry friends and radio’s powerhouse companies.
“The tragedy of Katrina has affected all of us, considerably the worst natural disaster in US history. I feel that we all must unite to help our fellow citizens in their time of need,��? Banner said. “My vision for this concert is designed to meet the immediate needs of those who are underprivileged and have lost everything in areas that are looked over.”
The relief concert aims to generate proceeds to benefit Hurricane Katrina survivors in Mississippi.
Atlanta’s own Mayor Shirley Franklin stated, “Given the current crisis in the Gulf Coast, I am so pleased that so many of our local and regional urban radio stations have united with David Banner and a number of the nations acclaimed, Atlanta based celebrities to produce a benefit concert that will assist thousands of evacuees in Atlanta and many of the smaller cities that were devastated by Katrina.”
Hosted by Lil’ Jon, David Banner will be performing along with his celebrity friends including Nelly, T.I., 8Ball and MJG, Ali & Big Gipp, Boyz N Da Hood, Chopper and 112 with many more artists to be added.
Banner has also teamed up with Radio One, Clear Channel, Cumulus Media, Cox Radio and Infinity Broadcasting to volunteer efforts to solidify the concert’s success.
“Radio One is honored that David asked us to be a part of the ‘Heal the Hood,’��? states Marsha Meadows, Vice President of Marketing for Radio One. “David Banner is a dear friend to Radio One, we believe in him and his efforts. When Hurricane Katrina struck, we knew that he would be one of the first Hip-Hop artists to step up to help Hurricane Katrina victims because he is from Mississippi.��?
Revenue generated and items collected from the “Heal the Hood” Hurricane Relief Concert will be donated to the hardest-hit states that need a great deal of aid, including communities in southern Mississippi, southern Alabama, and New Orleans.
In related news, Banner will also be taking part in another Hurricane Katrina relief concert being held in New York’s Time Square on September 19.
Many of Hip-Hop’s elite has been confirmed to perform at the benefit concert scheduled for September 19 at B.B. King’s Blues Club including Memphis Bleek, Q-Tip, The Beatnuts, Styles P, The Last Poets and the X-Ecutioners.
For more information on concert show times or to make donations through the Heal the Hood Foundation, log on to http://www.healthehood.com for details.
David Banner’s highly anticipated album Certified hits stores on September 20.
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bill
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
….So David Banner appears to be a good brother who is out trying to improve and help his community.
If we could just get him to stop cussing out folks, he’ll be better off.
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ja
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
wow judah tell us how you really feel
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velvetj
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
# 98 was ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ON!!!!!!!!
Just a random question for some of you on this board……..How many black men has Oprah put through Morehouse College? How much has she contributed to the United Negro College Fund since the 80’s? How much of her own personal money did she contribute to the victims of Hurricane Katrina?
Yes, Oprah, Al and Jesse are not perfect but they have contributed more to the black community than many of us realize. They were helping the black community before many of us were born and we need to respect that.
Besides, what exactly are they asking those in the Hip Hop Community to do? Think about it. They are simply asking to clean up the lyrics and the images they are projecting to not only the youth but to the world. They aren’t asking rappers to give up their first born child or anything crazy like that. Is what they are asking really all that unreasonable?
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Jes
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
In the so-called beef between Banner and Sharpton, there is truth on both sides. But the bottom line is that the black community has no direction. We constantly attack each other instead of focusing on the root cause of our problems (racism in America) which has embedded a hate for ourselves in the souls of the vast majority of black Americans in this country. Where is the love?? Banner is right in saying youth can only speak on what they have learned. This is the ignorance we’ve been taught but we are making sure that ignorance prevails when we encourage these behaviors through music. Kids are taking these lyrics and rolling with them. I saw two young girls in a store that were openly together as a couple. Being the concerned young woman I am, I asked how do you know at such a young age that you want to date women. They answered saying TI’s song says “my girl has a girlfriend” boys like girls with girlfriends. I was blown away and TI is one of my favorite rappers. So whether the artists care or not, this music is having a negative affect on the behaviors of our youth. And believe it or not this is exactly what racists White Americans want. They have mastered a system where we openly kill ourselves and promote it via Hip Hop. There is a reason the artists with more positive approaches to music don’t make it and don’t think it’s because we don’t want to hear that music, but whether the media outlets don’t play it because they don’t want us to think of alternatives to life and they don’t want us to recognize out greatness outside of entertainment.
We cannot take away from the things that Sharpton has done. Sharpton has spoke out about many injustices against blacks. I just challenge artists to think about more that just money, it’s like people will sell their soul to the devil for a dollar. Or better yet if they feel that’s the only way to get to the top, at least reach out and try to change some things once in the shot light. It’s time for everyone to take accountability for our actions and for the future of black America. We are dying at extreme rates and our culture is being diluted. STOP THE BEEFS…LET’S WORK TOGETHER.
Google the Jena 6 Trail. Sign the petition. Make a difference!! Power to the People!!!
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HandsomeStranger
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
They need to leave Brandy the hell alone!! The accident happened about 8months ago…sorry he lost his wife (if that who he claims her to be)…but life goes on…Brandy can’t stay in doors all her life…hell…I bet he’s out there getting some too…cause I don’t think since he lost his wife he’s been all celibate!
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tAMMY
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
@ 127 Yes it’s very unreasonable . How can you tell someone how to express themselves? Give me a break with hip-hop’s influence on the youth . I have a seven yr old son , he can’t tell you anything about music or any form of bling . Parent need to rasie their damn children and stop blaming music and television for all of their fuck -ups! It’s getting old !
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bill
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
BAMBAM said:
I think David had every right to speak his mind, and his opinions and feelings sre valid. I think it was mentioned earlier that he has a degree in English. If that’s so, then he should know better than to make an ignorant ass statement as the one the made. Why come off as an uneducated buffooon? In case some of you don’t know, most educated people don’t acknowledge, take serious, or even engage in debate with those who can’t seem to put together and articulate intelligent and cohesive talking points. Hence the rather humorous reply from Sharpton’s camp.
He totally negated the power of his statements by using unnecessary profanity. What if your kid came across those statements? Sure, maybe they’ve heard worse, but in my opinion, if you’re a high profile person, please put some thought into what your saying. Our kids are listening. Don’t let your stupid sounding statements become your legacy. Or release a statement through your damn publicist.
Bill Said:
Bam Bam, I agree with you 103%
Good Communication skills are so Important.
People can’t focus on this Brother’s Accomplishments because of the words that comes out of his mouth, and the records he has made.
He’s a serious and a very emotional brother who has a lot going for him.
If he could just polish his presentation skills he could get so much more accomplished.
He could possibly get himself elected to public office
But not
If he continues telling our black leaders to go F_ck themselves or to suck his D_ck…
That’s not cool.
It’s very disrespectful.
Do you see Jesse Jackson telling President Bush to Kiss his Black Ass ?
You just don’t speak to leaders that way.
Would you tell you boss to suck your D_ck ?
Peace
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ja
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
@ velvetj
I’m not sure what your point is. David Banner is not talking about money. Thats not even a issue. Thats like a child only knowing their parent was home because they see the lunch money on table. When you get out front and you say “I am the example”. The you have to BE the EXAMPLE. You can’t wage war on issue that have nothing to do with the people you are providing the example for.
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the real cookie
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
@ Ja
Your right, not everyone in the civil rights generation was perfect nor was their music, but to compare even the raunchiest music from that generation to what you here today is like night and day. I agree with some of what David Banner says, but I can’t believe how he’s playing the victim. Rappers have the power to influence people. If they didin’t they wouldn’t be whining aobut the multimillion dollar endorsement deals they’ve lost. So if you have the power to influence people and you see there are problems in your community, some of which you are only adding to, glorifying and profiting from and you want to do something about it, why are you writing al sharpton or any other older black people for help? If you want to make change, take responsibility. That’s what we should each do as individuals and that’s what the rappers who claim they want see change should do as well. It’s just that simple.
Also when David Banner says “Don’t just go running off to the media to air the dirty laundry of the family and not expect us to fight back in some kind of way. ”
Newsflash David Banner!!! Everybody else in the world already knows black people have no respect for each other. Oprah didn’t air out any dirtly laundry. Who exactly do you think are buying these records? Do you think only black people listen to hip hop? And who cares what other people think? I think these rappers are only motivated by the fact that it is becoming more difficult for them to get endorsements and stay mainstream as black people began to question hip hop. And that’s a shame because if they would have used some personal responsibilty and addressed this themselves from the start, they would have the everyone and their mama (who don’t listen to hip hop in the first place) chiming in on what they should do.
Lastly, I’m tired of these young rappers acting like their the only people in the WORLD who have had it rough. Most people from our parents generation didn’t have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of when they grew up. Half of these rappers never went to bed hungry a day in their life or served a day in prison. Proboly got atari’s every christmas and 8 ball jackets for the birthday’s. Growing up in th hood doesn’t make you any less of a person. Plenty of amazing people have come out of the hood. Having pride in yourself, your people and your community comes from within. I’m sure Oprah grew up poorer that all of these dudes.
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gee
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
@118…what the hell are you talking about ..who cares where the hell he reps..im talking about the state of the black community..which he does not contribute to only hurts with his bullshit ass music..it sounds like you are a little bitter towards n.o..and what the hell are you talking about taking a break from his career WHAT CAREER..man please this is just publicity for his new wack ass album coming out…dont talk about it be about it…
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lelee
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
In Sharpton’s defense he was at the Jena 6, he did his radio show from there, he has done several radio shows about the horrible injustice and he then moved on to the New Orleans to bring light to what continue’s to go on down there. They are doing a three day summit trying to get our people back home. I have never been an Al Sharpton supporter but I am able to recognize the fact that he is trying. But none of the news and entertainment outlets are taking notice of any of these things so most people think he is just trying to “ban” the rappers which is not the case by the way.
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Ashley
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
I co-sign with #98. I’m tired of rappers putting out music that glorifies violence and that degrades women. Then when the rappers get criticized for it they start blaming everyone and everything else instead of taking responsibility for their own actions.
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gee
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
@133 THANK YOU I COULDNT HAVE SAID IT BETTER
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velvetj
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
#130 asking rappers to stop disrespecting women, disrespecting black people, and glamourizing negative behavior is unreasonable? If you think thi is as simple as asking someone to stop expressing themselves, then we are on different plains.
And poster # 130 for every 7 year old son you have that doesn’t know anything about music or bling, I can point out 10 that do. It would be GREAT if parents took more responsibility and not let their kids be influenced by music, tv, sports stars, etc., but the REALITY is kids are influenced by those things, and since we know that those in the positions that influence need to be a bit more responsible.
Anyone who does not see how the negative aspects of Hip Hop has effected the black community, should open their eyes a bit further.
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AIJUSWANNASAY
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
*FRUSTRATED* DAMN, I WANNA READ WHAT BILL & JUDAH WROTE BUT I GOTTA TAKE CALLS AT WORK, LOL.
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Lihara
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
both of them are losers!!! david banner he sounds familiar but i understand his opinion but sucking his dick made him look like what they criticize these rappers for being..
the widower you have to understand where hes coming from HIS WIFE DIED yeah Brandy should be living her life but hes will not get over it so easy his wife will never be here again..i do agree being mad @ brandy doesnt do anything but he should understand that he is angry
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Lain
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
Judah I am in agreement with you 100%. Your statement was on point. Some elderes do not behave like elders but yet demand that respect. I don’t care for Sharrpton and applaud David Banner. I have always respected David Banner from the day he came on the scene. He is a DOER and backs up what he says about uplifting the black commnunity and helping the children.
Bill, it’s amazing how you first wanted to “cast the first stone” at Banner but later upon further research of who he is as a person decided to switch gears.
Al Sharpton is an oppurtunist and is only after his own exaltation.
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bill
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
the real cookie said:
@ Ja
Your right, not everyone in the civil rights generation was perfect nor was their music, but to compare even the raunchiest music from that generation to what you here today is like night and day. I agree with some of what David Banner says, but I can’t believe how he’s playing the victim. Rappers have the power to influence people. If they didin’t they wouldn’t be whining aobut the multimillion dollar endorsement deals they’ve lost. So if you have the power to influence people and you see there are problems in your community, some of which you are only adding to, glorifying and profiting from and you want to do something about it, why are you writing al sharpton or any other older black people for help? If you want to make change, take responsibility. That’s what we should each do as individuals and that’s what the rappers who claim they want see change should do as well. It’s just that simple.
Bill Said:
This is so true.
David Banner and the rest of the Rap Community has the resources to rebuild N.O and any other city/state affected by Hurricane Katrina.
Why are they so concerned about What is Rev. Al Sharpton or What Rev. Jesse Jackson is doing for them.
Rev Sharpton & Rev Jackson are NOT elected officials.
the MOST they can do is make a speech.
If you want REAL action, one has to appeal to their elected officials
Mayor C. Ray Nagin for instance is doing a hell of a job getting the goverment to clean up New Orleans.
What about the elected officical from the other area affected by Hurricane Katrina
What are they doing.
Rev Sharpton & Rev Jackson are person that make great speeches.
They don’t have the resources nor the power to rebuild cities & communities.
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ja
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
OK YALL GIVE DAVID A BREAK,
yOU DIDN’T LIKE THE WAY HE SAID, YOU DON’T LIKE THE WORDS OF HIS SONGS. BUT YOU HAVE TO ADMIT HE IS SPEAKING THE TRUTH. THEY NEED TO STOP PLACING THEMSELVES IN THE FOREFRONT. THEY NEED TO STOP LOBBYING THEIR ISSUES, THEIR ENTERTAINMENT. WHO MADE AL SHARPTON A LEADER. MAYBE THE PUBLIC SPEAKER FOR bEYONCE AND FEMALE BASKETBALL PLAYER, BUT THE LEADER OF BLACK PEOPLE PLEASE. aFTER DR KING DIED JESSIE SWITCHED SIDE. HE JUST WANTS BILLY GRAHAM’ SON JOB. AND JESSIE AND AL HAVE BOTH SAID THINKS ABOUT GEORGE BUSH( WHO LAST TIME I CHECK WAS ELECTED TO BE THE REAL LEADER OF AMERICA) THAT WHERE WORST THEN TELLING SOMEONE TO DO THAT. NO ONE SAID ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY WERE TAKING A STAND(ON WHAT I DONT KNOW) BUT I GUESS THATS OK.
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tAMMY
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
@ 138 So just b/c we live in a society full of lazy parents ,it’s okay to blame entertainer’s and atheletes for them not instilling any values in their children ?
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bill
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
141.
Lain
Friday, August 17, 2007
Judah I am in agreement with you 100%. Your statement was on point. Some elderes do not behave like elders but yet demand that respect. I don’t care for Sharrpton and applaud David Banner. I have always respected David Banner from the day he came on the scene. He is a DOER and backs up what he says about uplifting the black commnunity and helping the children.
Bill, it’s amazing how you first wanted to “cast the first stone” at Banner but later upon further research of who he is as a person decided to switch gears.
Al Sharpton is an oppurtunist and is only after his own exaltation.
Bill Said:
I NEVER said I had a problem with David Banner.
I have a Problem with what he SAID….
He’s a human being, and he made a mistake.
He get’s a pass….
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velvetj
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
# 132, I actually was not only talking about money either. Do you remember what Oprah did after the L.A. riots? Did she have to go to a Georgia prison 2 years ago and do a entire show on the young black man who was railroaded after his white sex partner changed her story and they placed him in jail? (I forgot his name. Not Jenarlo Smith but the young man who was released a couple of years ago in Georgia. She is also paying for his education). My point is, it is a falacy that Oprah, Al, Jesse, etc., have done nothing for the black community.
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velvetj
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
#144 of course it is not only the rappers fault. Parents are just as much to blame. My problem is many of these rappers, sports stars, etc., do not want to take any responsibility for the power they have. They influence dance, speech, fashion, attitudes, etc., and they don’t seem to believe they do.
IMO, placing the entire blame on a single thing is irresponsible and unfair because no single thing is the reason. But the VERY FIRST TIME Oprah Winfery walked into Nelson Mandela’s house she was greeted as a n*gga, because his security team thought that is the way Black Americans like to be greeted. Many may disagree with me but I believe the negative aspects of Hip Hop had a hand in why those South Africans believed that. The world see’s our videos, and hear our music and it influences them. And again, many rappers will argue that it does not so they continue to “keep it real” by continuing to disrespect black women, place thug life on a pedestal, etc. It’s time for a change. That is all the “leaders” are asking. Young folks will listen to a rapper before Oprah or Jesse Jackson, so why not use that power to help them as well as entertain them?
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ja
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
the real cookie said:
@ Ja
Your right, not everyone in the civil rights generation was perfect nor was their music, but to compare even the raunchiest music from that generation to what you here today is like night and day. I agree with some of what David Banner says, but I can’t believe how he’s playing the victim. Rappers have the power to influence people. If they didin’t they wouldn’t be whining aobut the multimillion dollar endorsement deals they’ve lost. So if you have the power to influence people and you see there are problems in your community, some of which you are only adding to, glorifying and profiting from and you want to do something about it, why are you writing al sharpton or any other older black people for help? If you want to make change, take responsibility. That’s what we should each do as individuals and that’s what the rappers who claim they want see change should do as well. It’s just that simple.
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Like I said before we have heard all this music before, nothing he is saying is new. We cant be shocked now. Prince was sing about two women way before these kids were born. Damn near everyone was singing about drugs in the 70’s, so no it’s not different are more graph you are just old and more mindful of what you hear. We been singing about these lyrics. I dont see David banner as playing the victim. They are attacking his livelyhood. This is how he feeds his family. And the people that are calling Al and Jessie are the people that cant speak for themselves ( so they think ) there cant be a community without famliy units, that is what a community is. Its like a fence. If a part of the fence is broke wha are you keeping out. Famlies are broke and have been broke for along time. Good luck if you think that lyrics are going to change that. Spend that energy helping these young parents that are letting Jay Z run the house. Who’s buying these CD, and concert tickets. The parent. Who’s allowing the rapper to have power, the parents. TI I said” I can only rap on my records, I can’t hear nothing back. ” But the parent are right there dance and loving it with they kids. Thats the problem. thats who Al and Jessie and Oprah need to address, the parents. The only person that came close to that was Farakon. And they where all agianst him. And maybe they think that Entertainment is suppose to rasie you because Oprah Jessie and Al were all raise by entertainment. You have to go to the begaining, White Amreica Said rap lyrics were killing the youth, the black leader co-sign. they attacked him first
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Denise
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
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RKJville3000
Friday, August 17, 2007
Until we band together and leave behind the “Generation X” label can we truly overcome….and keep Kim Kardashian away from black men!!! LOL….
DENISE SAID: 80′S BABIES ARE ACTUALLY GENERATION Y.
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MS. KATRINA
Friday, August 17, 2007 /
I’m sorry but I agree that Brandy must go on with her life, but come on yall let’s be real….yall know damn well if that was your relative that was killed in that accident and you see the person that caused it having a gay old time everytime she was pictured - you know your skin would be boiling too!!!! DON’T FRONT!!!
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