@ velvetj

Take the power away. I bet you money Michael Jackson will not have another hit records. Why, parents took that power away. Luke is not popular anymore, Why parents took that power away. The easy answer is to say “turn the page because we dont all know the words on this one”. Who are we going to blame after rap. I dont think my son is going to be Gay Because Tonex sings about being Gay and its gospel music. But it’s ok once we run out of excuess we’ll bring it back. We parent have more power than we give ourselves credit for.

David Banner, I think is a little in over his head making such disrespectful statements to Rev. Al Sharpton. I mean he has valid points, & makes some since in what he is saying, however to tell the Revernd to S**K his D**K, is very unprofessional & uncalled for. Sure he has a right to his opinion & to say what he wants but I mean with all due respect Rev. Al has his “faults” & “wrongs”, but Rev. Al has supported Black folks since way back when & stood up for the black communities for a very long time, he doesn’t have “OPRAH MONEY” but he has done alot more for the lower class communities than OPRAH has in my opinion. Just him “speaking out” & giving blacks a voice in these poor neighborhoods is more than any amount of money the others can put out. He (David Banner) doing all that mouthing off I hope he is doing something himself for the inner city-youth.

As for BRANDY, I can feel where the “WIDOWER” is coming from. My twin brother was killed in a motor vehicle crash at the hands of his own Frat brother (back in 2000). And when my best friend went with her sorority sisters to a Greek Party one weekend (not even 2 weeks after the dude drove the van into a tree killing my brother) she told me she saw my twin brothers Frat brother laughing, partying, & having a good time at the party. He even tried to talk to her at the party, she said she told him to get away from her & gave him the most disgusting look ever. None of my friends & family (me included) could not grasp “HOW”? we over here ripped apart over the loss of my twin…& the dude that was driving the van is off somewhere laughing & shit…like “dude…you just lost your Frat brother…line brother & you laughing? WTF. Here this man misses his WIFE deeply, & is still greiving her loss & the B***H that caused her to DIE is out laughing & partying. I would be pissed & mad as hell too!! I feel this man whole heartedly, I know his pain & where he is coming from (having lost someone very, very, close to me as well)

What the hell is going on in Brandy’s big head man? Had I been in her shoes I’d be sending that man gifts, & apologies galore, flowers, I’d visit him to express my sympathy, since nothing will bring her back. I would let him know I been going to counseling (which I will need after accidently killing a person). But noooo she “PARTYING”…wow BRANDY…that must be very therepeutic for the mind.(both middle fingers up @ brandy)

Ving Rhames: now this is a man with a heart..he lost a dear friend because one of his dogs flipped out on the guy. He is really a sincere person & is broken up over this unfortunate incident. (I love me some Ving Rhames, his acting is great).

@ velvetj

I’m sorry I didnt see you at 146. First off he had sex with a minor. Thats why he went to jail. That is my point teach your little boys respect a female no matter what. A minor can’t concent to oral sex. That was the law. instead of taking a plea he wanted to fight so according to the law voted on by the people of his county he recieved a lawful treatment. Now at the time in this area in GA STDs amoung youth was out of control. No perantal guidence. You can buy Jordans but not condoms. Thats being real. It doesnt matter if he didnt know what the law was what man who respects himself will have three other men with him doing this act to a child. this could have been his little sister. But his parents never taught respect is as simple as saying no. Now once the laws were changed they have let him out. But as a parent of a girl and a boy I understand the DA. Now if Oparh want to give him her money hey do you. But by no means was he railroaded he is not the victim. How did that help the community? Oprah helps people I get but she is not by far a community leader, because she can afford to send someone to college. [parents do that all the time

I understand him still mourning the lost of his wife. He planned on being with her for the rest of her life. At the same time he is being somewhat selfish. I mean the women has 6 lawsuits lined up against her what does he want her to do sit home depressed. Hell I would be out too and it’s been months since the accident was she suppose to take a year in seclusion.

Al Sharpton doesn’t lead shit, but his paycheck. He doesn’t speak for black America. Shit, he’s not even relevant in the lives of the black youth. He’s a publicity whore, right up there with Paris and Lindsey. The only difference is they choose to get it by shaking their ass at clubs and getting caught up by the police while he likes to sensationalize issues in the black community in exchange for a cover shot. Sit down NAACP. Sit down Al Sharpton. And sit down any other so called “Black Activist” or “Organization” that hasn’t done shit since the end of the Civil Rights Movement.

In response to the widower. Shut that shit up.
People die everyday in car accidents.
You’re lucky. You’re going to get a check for some shit that was clearly an accident.
You’re better off than most.

If David Banner is so intelligentwhy did he release that ignorant rant in the first place?
I also cosign with #35. Way to go Bill!!!!

@Bill

Bill I love and you, have goods points and you can pick out the problems, but

Mayor C. Ray doing anything good is funny to me. I from Texas and I was in Houston when the storm hit. This is what happen when you vote for a skin color ( obama pay attn:) He the Mayor and didn’t have an evacution plan for his city ( which every city is suppose to have) Did not have leeves inspected which should have been first on his list. Hello Your City IS Under Water. “Chocolate City”, that whole press comfrence was just dumb. And what everyone fell to remember They WERE TOLD TO LEAVE NO days before the storm hit. Some of them left because the News Stations in Houston show them in the club getting in at half price. Yes on the news. The other group of people that stayed behind said that didn’t have a ride. Mayor C. Ray Nagin say that was FEMA’s fault. Which in turn became Bushes fault. Now if he is so qualified way dosen’t he know that before =Nagin, after=FEMA,

first of all brandy can go on wiff her life thats all good and dandy…. but the fact of the matter is that she is sitting at a poker table like she tryna gamble all the money away and partying is fine also but poleeeeeeze by all means look a lil decent brandy all that dam grinning like a chest cat….. wiff all dat dam grease is pissing me off let alone that family….. and david banner im surprised at him he was the only decent rapper left but now he is an asshole for that comment … he could have said something diffrent to the rev most men that say suck my dick prolly sucked one them self lolololol…. ( just joking )

Okay lets put it like this, I see alot of people writing that ..
“they feel the “WIDOWERS” pain, & “feel sorry for him” & are on here saying “he needs to gert over it already & move on” but you know what…that is so much easier said than done…

until you lose someon “extremely” close to you..then it will a totally different story! Like I said in my previous post..I lost someone close & dear to me “My twin brother” (my blood)… & that is something you never really get over for the rest of your life…yes it gets better with time but it will always be a reality & fact remains that person will never come back to life. Until you go through that type of “LOSS”…You really can’t relate…not unless you have “TRULY” been in this mans shoes & have lost someone extremely close to you as this guy did.

And as far as BRANDY “staying in seclusion” “hiding” after the accident was over…for 8 months or “whatecer” that was primarily because of her “CELEBRITY STATUS”, she knew cameras & the “PAPS” would be all over her ass like crazy glue, I think that is why she kept her distance for the most part. If she had lost RAY J, her mom, or pops at the hands of someone else…then it would have been alot different on her end.Now, its very easy for BRANDY, hell–it wasn’t her “friends or Relatives” killed…she doesn’t even know these people that are mad at her. They lost their loved one at the hands of BRANDY.

When you are in the mans (WIDOWER) shoes (or like in my case) You just will “never” grasp how the next individual can just go on with their life..its “inconceivable” to the “mind” of a person who has lost someone that close to them (I dont think it has anything to do with money) its natural to THINK the way that he is THINKING (trust me I know..I been there).

You have to GO THROUGH IT..to FULLY understand where this dude is coming from with his frame of thinking.

Oh Ja, I see where you are coming from. We are in two totally different places. Let me guess, you would also say Rosa Parks should have been sent to prison for 20 years because she technically broke the law, therefor making her a criminal. My experience in life has shown me, things aren’t always in black and white. He was 16 she was 15. Because she was a minor, I’m sure that had something to do with her delayed objection to the sex, particularly when her admitted racist father found out she had sex with a black boy. Look up the evidence of the case.

And if you are going to sit in front of Oprah and cry for half an hour and deny you consented, AT THE VERY LEAST let one, possibly even two tears fall. The brotha was railroaded and I stick to that. Thank God the Georgia court system recognized it and released him.

Anyway, Hip Hop has no responsibility in this whole thing correct? But as responsible adults, since we KNOW many parents aren’t doing their jobs, and you KNOW who your audience is and who your music and videos are marketed to, why NOT take more responsibility. At this point, many of these rappers are just using parents as a scapegoat to their irresponsible behavior. And will boldly say, that anyone who does not believe the negative aspects of Hip Hop have impacted the black community is a fool.

One more thing. Ja, you believe Michael Jackson and Luke have not had hits because parents stop giving kids money to buy their records? Yeah, you do see the world in black in white. Naw bruh, it’s not simply because of that (rolling my eyes and shaking my head).

Also, who is saying if you hear a song by Tonex about being gay, your son is going to turn gay (which is silly in of itself). That is not how things work. Hearing or seeing something one time for the most part doesn’t have an effect on you. It’s a process of time. Repitition, repitition, repitition. That’s the whole point of commercials. To think you cannot see women portrayed in a certain way, constantly hear music about thug life, etc., over a period of years and it not affect how you begin to see the world, is just not reality.

The world many times is bigger than just our own personal space. How I conduct myself in a boardroom full of white people, affects all of black people. I know that, and I thank God I know that. The images some in the Hip Hop community affects us all whether they realize it or not.

Y’all are a trip. Y’all need to quit focusing on what David Banner said the first time which was during a private call. And probably said in the heat of the moment. Y’all need to look at his second statement. And see what he is trying to say.

Focus on the issues.

And Al Sharpton is not my leader. I didn’t choose him. I speak up, make changes, mentor youth, etc. But Al doesn’t speak to me. I listen to rap. I see what’s going on in my hood and around the world.

I agree with what David is saying. Sometimes you have to look beyond the surface to get to the man. Why didn’t Oprah have Nelly on the show? Why didn’t she ask the Spellman Women why they protested during what was supposed to be a bone marrow drive? Something that could have saved a lot of lives, even Nelly’s sister Jackie who died from Leukemia.

If you don’t like the music, then turn it off. There’s freedom of speech in this country, to try and ban or prohibt someone’s speech is censorship. You may not agree with what is being said, but you don’t have to listen. Or you can speak up and voice your own opinion on the matter.

My question is this - Why is everyone protesting the music? But not mentioning the tv shows, movies or books that perpetuate the negative stereotypes and ghetto/coon mentality? Some of the top selling books to the youth, younger generation and adults is the ghetto fiction, street lip or hip hop fiction - however it’s labeled. Which perpetuates the gangsta, ghetto, thug, drugdealing mentality and stereotypes. And to say black people don’t read is another erroneous stereotype. Has anyone heard of the African American Literary Awards Show?

Oh and on Brandy - can’t the woman get a break. She’s remorseful, I’m sure but she shouldn’t have to go hide in a box or join a nunnery.

And on Ving - I love the man. But I think he waited to long to address the incident. The dogs may have not been the killer but they were an indirect cause. I believe they said the man died from a heart attack, which could have been brought on by the dog attack.

I wholeheartedly support David Banner. While I wish he would have handled his initial response with the eloquence that was is this letter I realize when people are fed up they sometimes let their emotions get the better of them. In the words of Janet Jackson “What have you done for me lately?” Rather than mobilie work and together with our youth the majority of our black “leaders” continue to berate us and blame the hip hop generation for all of problems in Black America. Funny a year or two ago our “leaders” were jumping down Bill Cosby’s throat for airing our “dirty” laundry and now they are doing exactly that . Hypocritical don’t you think? Bill gives back to the community tirelessly WITHOUT the cameras or morning talkshows presence. Instead of the NAACP having a funeral for the N word maybe they should take the time to reach out to the youth and find out what is at the core of the N word mentality some of us are still carrying around.

@velvetj

Please read the this you are not in the know. This is all about parental guidence. No

way my little girl will be allow in a motel (Parents) This is all parents. I see rap lyrics

in that but I also see a 15yr little girl know to all parties to be 15, with out parental

guidence. This young man hos was not told to respect himself. His body is just as

much as a Temple as the girls. But I guess your mind set is as long as rapper are

telling her to do this her parents cant say nothing. If he was 18 ( which he was

turning that year ) would it piss you out then. That his mother ( matters if she was a

single parent) didn;t give him the treat people like you want to be treated speech. It

burns me that people are raising sons like this. And Yes Rose when to jail for a

nobel cause, this has nothing to do with this and cant even be compared

. Hell he was cry because he was in jail. Jail is hard, no matter how many people

like going there.

They crime is that matters if this girl was white or black more parents arent out

protesting that things are going on like this

and are cheering this young man off because he reads well and plays sports. yea

thats the only reason Oprah was there. If it would have been ray ray from bankhead

on the block they wouldn’t be able to find O

Just like The Women who went to jail before Rosa Parks who was bailed out of jail

by the NCAAP because she had two kids out of wedlock. And by the way read your

history, The BUS RIDE was stage to prove a point.

The conviction was based on an amateur video tape showing Wilson engaging in sex with a 17-year-old girl during a private party, and later being offered and receiving oral sex from a 15-year-old girl. The video shows the 17-year-old girl on the bathroom floor, then later having sex with Wilson. She appeared sleepy or intoxicated during the sex act but did not ask Wilson to stop. Waking up naked and disoriented the next morning, she claimed to have been raped. Investigating the alleged rape, police later found condoms and evidence of drinking, as well as the video camera, in the motel room used for the party.

A jury acquitted Wilson of raping the older girl, but convicted him of aggravated child molestation against the 15-year-old. The “aggravated” nature of the charge refers to fellatio (oral sex) rather than a mere “immoral or indecent act.” Had the two teenagers had intercourse without oral sex, Wilson would have been charged with a misdemeanor, punishable up to 12-months, with no sex offender status, instead of the mandatory 10-year minimum term that the judge gave him

OK HE TOLD THE GUY TO SUCK HIS PETER LOL SORRY THATS FUNNY TO ME. BUT LET GO ON. IN THE HEAT OF ANGER WE ALL SAY FOUL CRAP, NOT SAYING IT WAS RIGHT BUT THATS HUMAN NATURE. GET OVER IT BECAUSE OTHER THAN THAT EVERYTHING HE SAID MADE PERFECTLY GOOD SINCE IF ONLY HE DIDNT MAKE THE PETER SUCKING COMMENT LOL, SORRY AGAIN. AND IM TIRED OF THE “OH THEIR DISRESPECTN US FEMALES” IF YOU KNOW YOUR NOT A HOE NOR A BITCH YOU SHOULDNT TAKE OFFENSE. WHEN THEY SAY IT THAT MUST HITS A SOFT SPOT IF YOU FEEL THAT PEOPLE YOU NEVER MET ARE SPEAKING PERSONALLY OUT TO YOU IN THEY LYRICS WHEN THEY SAY BITCH OR HOE. GET A REALITY GRIP THATS ALL IM SAYING.

@velvetj

What is “Conduct Myself” mean. Do you act differently around white people than

black people. if so were did you learn that, and why do you do that. And yes I do

think parents stoped luke from making money and making music like he was . he is

banned in at least 10 state. Now you tell me what group of kids when dawn the the

concert hall and say ” luke we

dont want to hear you music anymore) yea right. And yea Tonex is openly gay. He

addresses this in some of the songs he sings, which are all gospel. Now you can’t

just pick what type of music has influences. Now remember we, (black people) had

the same issue with Kirk Franklin. He was supposely making the youth disrespect

God. When will the blaming stop.

David Banner looks bangable in this pic… never seen him without the beard. Upgrade.

WOW @ this post

But well said #36….it always baffled me how David Banner could appear to be such an intellect one minute, then come out with a song like ”Play” the next… he may not think so but hiphop music (music in general) does affect ppl (especially impressionable youth)

Btw, I never understood why a man would tell another man to suck his….either, it doesnt sound right at all!

Smh…yes it was a tragedy, but what does he expect Brandy to do? The accident happened last December & we are JUST now seeing pics of her partying recently…

Bout time Ving said sumthin!

Regarding Brandy… I agree with #10…totally, that is very true.

Regarding the whole David Banner & Al Sharpton issue… I agree with #32…. I also work at a high school with at-risk teens…so I do understand where Al Sharpton is coming from. Each day I talk to teens (young men) who only dream of being rappers, music producers, football or basketball players…yep, thats it!! I often ask them what (else) do they want to be? What else is important to them? And after talking to them, they honestly feel that being a doctor, lawyer, judge, policeman, professor, etc is too hard. And no one at home is telling them to strive for much else. Some, not all…youth today would prefer that someone (gives) them a job…dam hard work…or they feel as though if they play a sport well….that will be their ticket to a great life forever, dam making the grades or getting a degree to fall back on. So the motivation process with the youth of today cant just come from one direction…or one source, others need to get on board as well. It would be great if David & Al could set aside or talk out there differences…respectfully. If we as blacks learn to work together on issues that arise in our community….”together” I say, there would be no limit to what we could accomplish as a race..

@ 98 Perfect Response on Banner!!!

“Because you guys DON’T WANT TO REALLY FIX OUR PROBLEMS” I can’t believe a grown ass man said that !!!!!! Its not the “leaders” responsiblity to fix “our” problems its “ours”. People have to want to help themselves (if they don’t then that’s their problem). Nothing in life is handed to you, you have to work for it. There is no excuse not to be a successful black youth in America. There are no laws specifically oppressiong blacks….people are just lazy…..

Newho I feel sorry for Brandy, they know that she is a little (lol) famous and want to get everything they can from her….

my bad “oppressing”

Oh yeah…I am glad to hear that it wasn’t Rhames dogs that had anything to do with the death of his caretaker.

David Banner seriously wrote that letter? By himself? Damn, its so articulately written.

@171.

You hit the nail on the head.

I mad my comments are awaiting moderation . geesh

dang tammy what u say

Newsflash, the crash was in DECEMBER!!! What do they mean she was partying so soon after the crash? How long does she have to be depressed over what happened?

I do not understand why people or looking to Oprah, Al, and others to be leaders for Black America. Best case, they are celebrities with money or high profile personalities, but I don’t recall voting for any of them during the last election in my neighborhood. We can seriously expect them to make a difference where we live… It is on each of us individuality to stand up and be leaders where we live. If we devise a personal plan for change for ourselves individuality and stop looking for someone to lead us in the path of righteousness, self-love, respect, dignity and self-worth we would than become our own greatest advocate for change.

Oprah does not sit on the city council in my city. Her name was not on my voting ballet. I do not expect her to promote change in anyway in my city. I do however expect those I voted for to represent my interests.

Use the power you have. You have the power to change you. Vote.

178.
say that, all the people who think like must have been at work today

@ Ja

I think you missed my point. My point isn’t about kids being effected by hip hop or even woman for that matter. My point is about a person, making a living off of exploiting and perputating pure negativity and not expecting to be called out on it. Like I said in my first post. I don’t believe in censorship and I do believe parents are ultimatly responsible for their childrens actions. However I do believe in calling it like it is. Don’t pretend that you are doing something positive and that you are interested in uplifting black people when you make your money doing the exact opposite. Period. It’s just that simple.

The problem with SOME hip hop is that, people don’t want to call it what it is. I’m not some old lady. i listen to hip hop. It’s not like I don’t understand where these rappers are coming from, but so many of them are selling themselves short. Look at how impressed we are with the fact that David Banner comes off as intellegent. Why should we be surprised at that. A lot of these rappers are intellegent people, just like a lot of other people from the hood are. However, these rappers are complete idiots, because they dumb themselves down for profit, at the expense of their own people - that’s my beef.

If rappers who said these things were driven into the underground, I wonder how many of them would continue to do so? I can almost garuntee you alot of them would change their tune, because a lot of these lyrics aren’t even about their lives, it’s about a ganster image they feel that they must perpetuate make money. The so caught up in the image, the creativity is gone. I don’t think every rapper needs to talk about the sun and the moon etc. However, if your gonna talk about gangsta life, tell it like it is FOR REAL. Because there is no glamor in selling crack out your momma’s house and getting thrown in and out fo jail every week. In the real world, that’s how it goes down. There aren’t a lot of bently’s parked outside the P.J.’s.

The problem with hip hop is that we have it all backwards. The rappers who are actually talk about real shit are in the underground and the one’s spitting nonsense are in the mainstream. Don’t you’ll realize this is by design. If these hip hop artist were tryin to start a revolution, these labels would drop them like hop potatoes. As long as they contribute to the dumbing down of music they’re a okay. That’s my point. It’s not about what they say, it’s about why they say it - for profit. And the fact that they won’t own up to that.

Also, I don’t understand why people continually bash Oprah, but we put people who talk about murder, guns, ho’s and the crack game on pedestals? WTF? Criticize oprah if you want, but everytime I see a black woman on her show she is intellegent, accomplished and being treated with respect. I can’t same for some of our rap hero’s.

@178
Enough with that voting nonsense. If voting worked, Al Sharpton and these men that capitalize off of racial situations would not have a niche in this society.

that accident was last year, i dont think brandy is gonna be as upset as the damn widower over the lady’s death, in her field sometimes u just have to brush things off or put ur personal life to the side and keep workin, everybody mourns in their own way

David Banner poor example to the young black youth bra!!!!

the question is WHO IS BANNER LEADING???? These leaders and philanthropist don’t have to get involved at all. Oprah chooses to help people that she don’t have to help at all and people still complaining. SHUT UP and do something yourself!!! The complaints about our youth and behaviors are true. This is the problem we don’t want to hear the ugly truth and get all defensive about rightful criticism that we bring on ourselves. I bet if Banner was in some kind of unfair legal trouble, I bet he would want AL and Jesse to help him out. He needs to sit down. Just like 50 cent being mad at Oprah for her opinion on rap lyrics, his lyrics ARE vulgar toward black women PERIOD and I’m tired of people using the jungles(ghetto) that they came from as an excuse because I lived in the so called HOOD. Change your reality by changing your speech, your attitude, your thought life. We all have that power to change but we choose not to do so and make ‘poor ole me’ excuses.

@ 180. the real cookie

I am sorry if I’m missing your point. But that was the exact point Oprah and Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson are making. Which is what the post is about. This is why this all started. Al Sharpton and David Banner are from the same World Musically. And four years ago when they were try to get all the hip hop star behind the vote for Kerry, they where not concerned with lyrical content. I don’t pretent to know much about rap music. And trust I might be younger than you and female (by the way) I dont defend the content. But at the same time stop buying music you dont like. Stop going to the concerts. If you stop listen to a person, they will stop talking. Underground artist not doing good cause no one is buying the music.

“My point is about a person, making a living off of exploiting and perputating pure negativity and not expecting to be called out on it.”

That is a good line. That is how you feel and you are welcome to that. But to the same time this is America that is exactlly what the Bill of Rights affords us. The first amendment give us the freedom to say as we please. What ever it is that maybe. It is entertainment, make believe. ” keep it real” yea right. OPARH is entertainment, rapper are entertainer. They ARE NOT HERO. And for all the negative things that Oparh says and does, you talk about the good things. That all these artist are asking for. So you dont like their content don down play all the good they have done. Because trust David Banner has sent his share of kids to college.

@judah

Oh voting works. The people who are voting arent working properly.

To the family of the deceased who is obviously looking for ammunition to take to court on Brandy, we are all saddened for your lost, sincerely, but i think it’s a shame that you would exploit a awful situation and try to turn this horrific accident into a pay day. You should be a shamed. If the woman that hit your wife’s car was a random person, you would not be pursuing this as you are, instead, you would be seeking therapy and trying to work through your pain and lost with your family. Not to trivialize your lost, but these type of accidents happen every day, and while it’s unfortunate, sometimes these things happen, though they don’t hurt any less. It’s awful to lose someone suddenly in an accident of any kind, but to presumably exploit this lost is just sad and shameful. What if the person that hit your wife was a person with no money, then what would you have done? She hasn’t been charged in this crime, surely, if she would have been wreckless, as some people on here claims, then she would have at least been ticketed, and presumably later charged with either a misdemeanor or felony crime. The reason why this hasn’t been done is because there’s no evidence of any foul play as of yet. They’ve been investigating this for months. I had a car accident in few years back where i hit a car from behind, but i was cut off suddenly on the highway, where the car suddently jerked itself into my lane. I had no room to swerve, and i hit the car, not bad, but i taped it even though i hit my brakes. I was never charged with anything because even though i hit that car, the person in the front was at fault because witnesses were able to state that the vehicle suddenly pulled into my lane. Point mentioning, these things happen, and sometimes people walk away, and sometimes people don’t; i just hope your law suit for being done for the right reasons and not greed. My thoughts and prayers are with both families.

TO DAVID BANNER AND AL SHARPTON:

I SEE NON-BLACK PEOPLE, AND THEY ARE LAUGHING AT US. I COULD SAY SO MUCH MORE, BUT WHY, THIS MESS WILL NEVER CHANGE.

SURELY, MARTIN L. KING IS TURNING OVER IN HIS GRAVE WHILE CORETTA IS CATCHING HIM UP ON WHAT’S BEEN GOING DOWN SINCE HIS DEATH. HE’D BE SO ASHAMED…

ENOUGH SAID.

David Banner,this punk should be thankful his black a.. can even make music,sell records and live the life he lives. If it wasn’t for the Al’s,Jesse’s, Dr King and other prominent black leaders his black a– would be picking cotton in the fields right now. Alot of young blacks are so ignorant these days because they don’t care about nothing,won’t stand for nothing,and to me will never amount to nothing. I don’t care if you sell a billion records,here in the good old USA you are still just another dumb black man to most white people out there. You think it’s ok to call women b-t-hes and h–s and each other the N-word BUT GET MAD IF SOME WHITE PERSON CALLS YOU THAT,you are too stupid to realize that the white man no longer has to put a rope around your neck to hang you, he just gives the rope to you and let you do it yourself. It might take a little longer but you will eventually kill yourself and take as many of your young black brothers and sisters with you as you can…Wake up BlacK People!!!!

I think its sickening that people are questioning the motives of AL and Jesse. Like they are motivated by media attention as to compare them with a Paris Hilton, YOU IDIOTS! These men have a calling on their lives that they chose to answer to and could choose to give up at anytime and who will lead or speak up for our ungrateful selves then? These men recieve death threats for doing what they do for our ungrateful selves. They can not save us from everything that we get ourselves into. You can not tell me they enjoy the pressure, criticism, and threats on their lives, and the unappreciation from black folk like Banner, just for a thrill. You sound ignorant! It has to be a calling!!! Leave Jesse alone about his infidelity. That woman might have kept after him. I’m sure alot of women came after Jesse because women are attracted to authority figures. He gave in to temptation. He shouldn’t have but he did and he has to deal with the consequences of his actions just like everybody else. I’m proud to have them as advocates for the black community because they bring attention to the battles that come against us and they don’t have to. Because no one else has the guts or tenacity to do it. As far as Oprah is concerned, what she was saying is that our youth today are so spoiled, and we are, that we don’t appreciate what we have in this country. We covet material things like ipods, shoes, and put our energy into learning the latest dances. We take things like an education for granted, we dumb down for the sake of being street! we just don’t want to admit it. She chose to build a school in an area of the world that don’t have it half as good as we do here and for kids that won’t take it for granted like we do. Why should’nt they have the best. I’m proud she did’nt give them less than they deserve. If she chose to buy a car or another mansion with that money, nobody would say anything, because we only care about the material things. This is the reason why we have so many illegal aliens, because they want what we have taken for granted. We should applaud them more than we do celebrities that don’t do anything tohelp their neighbor and would rather buy bling that to help anybody.

The husband of the deceased is full of shit. i understand he’s mourning but Brandy has to get over the accident and move on with her life. I suggest he does the same!!!! It has been almost a year!!!!! I’m proud Brandy is out partying, she shouldnt let this accident stop her from living!!!!

#83- Just had to pop in and say this:

Those kids in Africa will NEVER have a chance in their wildest dreams. That’s why. Over here we have the opportunity to attend schools and that’s enough in itself. It is not Oprah’s fault some people don’t want to take advantage of that opportunity because they’re more interested in other trivial things. It’s ridiculous. Some black women in America can’t afford a decent house, but you better be sure as hell they can afford that $250 dollar weave!

__Oh and I think both Banner and Jackson are wrong. I don’t depend on Jackson for nada. End of story.

Oh, and I also think it’s RIDICULOUS that all these people are telling this poor guy to “get over” the death of his wife. WTF! Brandy must’ve done something stupid on that freeway is all I know..And if she had driven over my mother, I’d be mad as heck too! Yes, she should live her life and shouldn’t have to dwell in sorrow, one of the reasons being she has her own daughter to take care of, but it’s whatever to me. I’m sure people on Brandy’s camp would probably be even more pissed if someone ran over Brandy, leaving her daughter motherless.

Oh, and FYI, I don’t take Sharpston seriously about 96% of the time…He’s so full of BS. Everything is racial to him.

If it weren’t for people like Jessie Jackson, Oprah, Rev Al and a lot of people who lived through the worst of struggles in the 60s a lot of us black people would not even be on a computer and being able to voice our opinions today.

Sorry David but I disagree. You and I grew up with cable television, being able to work and get the same education, employment, where rappers like Russell Simmons, Jay Z, Diddy, 50 cent, Beyonce, Little Kim were able to have the same amount or more in their banking account as the white man.

During our “leaders” error they were constantly fighting to make a future for we black people. Demonstrating you don’t have to give up and take just anything including giving up your hopes and dreams just because people said Black people were behind. These people had riots, fought, supported Dr. Martin Luther King and walked and stood out in front of business that refuse to hire or allow person in their store because of the color of their skin.

David you can talk all this bullshit that you want, but it’s people like you that will have us back to place where our ancestors lived without being able to voice our rights. Are the rappers who have gotten it easy who were former drug dealers, been in jail for taking what’s not yours, and shooting your own skin color just to rule a certain block and power? What have you done? We can’t even have a decent award show for our black people without a shooting from our own race or some other type of hate.

David Banner I doubt you will make anyone’s history book because you talk about our leaders but remember there are those that will grow up one day and ask how can you sit there and tell another black individual to suck your $%#. This type of outburst and foolishness you displayed is only entertainment for the white man that love when black people turn against one another. None of these white people have any respect for the rappers and will always laugh at the way you, 50 cent and Luda act to one another. What have you done? You weren’t the only person helping with Hurricane Katrina victims. There are plenty black people who went down there without a name and invited victims to live in there homes. Cooked food out of their own money earned from mopping floors at a hospital and cleaning some white persons house, but did what they could to help those unfortunate.

David Banner wants attention and his warrant is an embarrassment. Just another brother trying to bring a smile on the white man’s face by disrespecting those of color that have succeeded their goals.

You don’t speak for me David Banner. I find you ignorant and lacking respect. Whatever you voiced will be forgotten by the end of the year. You are not even thought of until this statement. Yet, people like Oprah, Jesse, Rev Al names that have built intimidated the white man enough to force them to open the doors on the ones who worked hard to get in them will always be remembered. You’re just one of the few who have shown nothing other than you can whine.

what david banner said was all so true—our so called leaders are not doing their job for the (n.a.c.p.)!!!! the jenna 6 should have been on cnn,fox,nbc,abc & all the other stations but no- WE ARE NOT IMPORTANT!!!!! woohoo! the president daughter is getting married-who da *%^$ cares????? we have GOT to find a solution! this so crazy…….building a school in africa,when we need schools here…..worried about giving WORDS(hoes,bit#%,#igga) a furenal….youve got children out of wedlock but upset with young teenage mothers….our leaders need to stop worring about our music and start worring about our lives! teach a child how to do right–and it will–it might take awhile but it will.we must learn how to educate ourselves about the basics-education,money and family.black leaders cant ’save the day’ but they can do a hellva lot better!!!!!

on the brandy ….
the husband must remember that is wife is NEVER going to come back and Brandy nor him can change that (the money might help) may her soul RIP……….

^^^^^ FYI last time I checked primary and secondary public education was free (thats why we have taxes) and FASFA is available for poor students like me who can’t afford to go to college. .Black leaders have brought us out of slavery, from jim crow laws, and segregation…they can’t go on job interviews with you and help you get a job, remind you to use a condom, aid you in school, help buy houses, pay bills for you, tell you to stay away from drugs and gangs. Seriously you have to do something for yourself… . . . . . . . .

Most of the gangsta music is disgusting and degrading. Look at how David Banner addresses Al Sharpton, totally with no respect. This is typical in rap music, which many times shows no respect towards another Black person. Even if David disagrees with Al such language is unacceptable. This is why Imus thought it was ok to make his statement, because of people like David. His letter is confusing.

That is not David Banner in that picture!!!! get it together CL! But I do agree with him, people are so damn concerned about rap when it should be about the people. These songs don’t hurt the people, people have been calling one another names for a long time. I tell you what, when I start hearing/seeing people doing something about the violence (that’s been a part of our community), the homeless, the aids victims that seem to have risen in our community from black men who don’t give a shit about us, then I’ll listen to Al. I wish he would sit his hot combed, greasy hair ass down! Go out to the hood nigga, and stop showing up only to get on television.

I mean, just like that movie said, all the people that actually want to make a change die. Make a change nigga, and die.

i’m sorry that the man lost his wife, but Brandy didn’t maliciously cause the accident nor was she under the influence of anything, falling asleep, or talking on the phone.
i do think she should provide compensation in a interest earning trust fund for the victims children & a settlement for the husband. however as much as i sympathize with the parents losing their daughter, i don’t think they should be able to sue her.

is it me, or does banner REALLY remind u of damon dash on that pic right there? its kinda weird… look entirely different with a fitted and rays on, haha

I think 8 months is enough time for Brandy to mourn this situation. Thier was nothing wrong with her going out, she is not Paris Hilton. It seems like the family was just waiting for her to do anything so they could jump on her. Hold ya head up B.

I think David Banner just wants attention. No doubt the lack of representation in our communiy is lack luster. But who is he? What has he done? He had no right to disrespect them just for his own gain. Al Sharpton should not have responded. This is not a rap record. Yet.

kind.

Gansta Rap = Minstrel Show

It’s just that simple. Black people acting a fool and disrespecting themselves for the joy, entertainment and pleasure of white people. Yes, because white people are the ones buying it. Whoever can’t see how these negative images affect us is bugging. If we complain about the way white people depict us in the mainstream media, how is that we don’t complain about it when it comes to black people?

@185

The Real Cookie is making some valid points.

I’m in my mid-twenties so I consider myself young also. We all understand freedom of speech and it’s not about us as young adults understanding that hip hip is for entertainment. The problem is the fact that kids are trying to immulate these fictional lifestyles. I grew up in the hood. I know the issues and people can post in these forums all day saying that parents should be responsible for the actions of their kids, but at the end of the day these kids are raising themselves. Young parents with questionable mentalites don’t have much to offer kids and the drug addicted parents are too busy chasing a high, then you have the single moms that are too busy working to keep the lights on. And I can tell that David Banner knows of these issues and understands because he spoke of DuBois in his letter to Sharpton. The talented tenth have to help bring the masses of blacks from our state of ignorance. So if you know the problems and understand the ignorace, why would you promote it? FOR THE LOVE OF MONEY! Our oppressors have instilled in us to vaule money more than our lives. The people in this country understand that blacks will sell each other out for a little profit even if the affects are detrimental to our community. We have to stop defending bad and start taking a stance for what is right. We can’t leave the state of our community on the shoulders of our so-called “black leaders” and downplay their efforts because we haven’t made progress. Before there is true change people have to know that they deserve better. The affects of drugs have reversed allot of the previous efforts made by our black leaders.

Our generation has completely changed the game. If I’m an articulate, attractive, well-dressed black women than I’m “acting white”. But back in the sixties seventies, and eighties that was the norm for black women to carrier themselves with grace and tact and to dress nice and to become educated.

ok not to be harsh or anything but if he is still mourning the death of his wife, why is he spending his time on the internet looking at pictures of Brandy partying. He should be spending his time with family and friends healing and celebrating the memory of his wife. Seems to me like he and his lawyer are trying to build a stronger case based on emotional stress. I wonder if they are suing everyone involved in the crash?

David Banner does have a point about our black leaders. I have not seen one interview from Al or Jesse discussing the gross injustice going on with the Jena 6 situation. Oh but then again Al was so wrapped up into doing tv interviews on the duke rape case he probably didn’t even notice.

@203 jes

The Real Cookie is making some valid points.

I think you missed her point as she stated it doesnt matter if it is afffecting the kids are degrading women. They not “keeping it real”. Well as parents” We not keeping real” It dont matter how old you are once you have them Kids it’s timeout for all childish things. Kids blame other people for they problems. “Young parents with questionable mentalites don’t have much to offer kids and the drug addicted parents are too busy chasing a high, then you have the single moms that are too busy working to keep the lights on.” Excuess, Excuess. All that is from bad parenting. So you’re saying that because these people fail to provide Emotional support to their kids, someone else should change their way of life to make sure these kids are taking care of. That sounds like self pity and blame to me. When I see bad parenting I take them aside and I tell the with tact. I dont say” boy that rap music is really messing up your kid”. If TI talk to your son more than you do of course its sounds goods. Anything is better than nothing. Its not 50 cent fault that a child only has one parent, or that the mother didnt do what she need to do while she was in school to get where she need to be in life. Hell he had a bad mother too. Why should he feel sorry for her. WE NEED to BREAK THIS CYCLE. When you get off work i know you tired, so what. Read a book with your babies. Talk to your lil girl about respect. Talk to your lil boy about respect. Dont let your kids dictate your personal life, but dont let your personal life dictate your kids. Put your kids in the know. And it not just rapper either. We need to look at what some of these singers male and female are saying. Be the example for your kids. YOU RIGHT THERE. IT DOESN’T MATTER WHATS IN A SONG, WHATS RIGHT BE FOR THEIR EYES MAKES THEM THE MAN OR THE WOMAN THEY WILL BECOME.

Somebody please tell me what the hell has David Banner ever done to uplift the Black community? How dare he go at Black people who have made sacrifices for our people and have made diligent eforts to get things done? Is he serious?

I am sorry to hear about dude wife, but that does not mean brandy should stop living her life, I mean it was a fucking accdent!! it ain’t like she went to the lady car and shot and killed her. so dude need to clam his money hungey ass down because don’t no body wants to hear that shit. he sounds like he is more worried about what the fuck brandy doing then his wife if you ask me!!

glad Brandy isn’t hiding…I co-sign with everyone who says she can’t mourn forever.

David Banner..he’s done some good things, but what the fuck was he thinkin when he started ranting? I don’t know…

To all those saying Sharpton needs to help the Jena Six–how do you know he isn’t? A quick google search will come up with

http://www.katc.com/Globa...520&nav=menu209_2boom

a story about Sharpton protesting on behalf of the Jena 6. Just because the media doesn’t cover it widely doesn’t mean he’s not trying to help. And if the media did cover it–ya’ll say he was just doin it for attention. He can’t win.

David Banner letter is a reflection of some urban adult and most urban youth mindset. Our black leaders and elders are out of touch with reality. They don’t care about what’s going on in the hood. They just want TV time. The white man is keeping us down. That is far from the truth with the exception of the white man keeping us down. He’s holding us down but we’re making it easy for him to do so. Our black leaders and elders are disappointed in us and they have the right to be. They sacrificed blood, sweat, and tears to better our current and future existence. They laid down the foundation for us the bridge the social and economical gaps and want us to continue the movement, are we living up to the challenge. I think our black leaders see the hip –hop community as under utilizing there influential powers to bridge those gaps.

I hate to agree with our black leaders on this, because I’m a hip-hop head but there right. Hip-hop needs to man up and take some of the responsible not all but some and stop pointing the finger. I understand hip-hop has created a lot of jobs and opportunity for the black community but is has also tainted the minds with beliefs that thuggin and street cred is more important than doing what ethically and morally right.

Example: “Stop Snitchin”, some of our youth are living by this code. We all know the police and judicial system is flawed. Can’t we come up with a better idea then “Stop Snitchin” to counter this flawed system

“Cam’ron was featured on the April 22, 2007 edition of news show 60 Minutes, and was interviewed by Anderson Cooper about the “Stop Snitching” campaign. When asked if he would tell the police if a serial killer was living next to him, he replied “I would probably move,” but he wouldn’t inform the police.”

These same criminal were not snitchin on are the same criminal that are going to pass this mental down to their kids, in-turn keeping us on this same destructive course. I’m looking for the punk that killed my best friend so I can snitch on him.

Give our black leaders a break. I don’t think our black leaders and elders are asking too much of us. Help them help us! There catching heat from both sides the black community and White America. There being called hypocrites by White America for addressing issues that we haven’t addressed in our own communities. The black communities are saying, our black leaders aren’t doing enough in the community. How can they go to bat for us when we’re not collectively helping ourselves?

We need a resolution! United we stand divide we fall!

Brandy was involved in the accident in Dec 06. It is now AUGUST 2007!!!!!

EIGHT MONTHS ON and they expect her to be still a wreck?

The bitch aint show herself anywhere till APRIL. And she aint been doing a Paris Hilton. The only way we hear about her is through Websites!!!!!

This is all a clever attempt at getting the ‘potential’ jury who will decided what happens in Jan, to be mad at Brandy. To stir up bad feelings to her. They want America to hate Brandy. So they can sue the HELL out of her! Its DISGUSTING.

The parents aint seen their daughter in THREE YEARS. They in a DIFFERENT CONTINENT. And they wanna sue for $50 million?????

The Husband and His Wife were ESTRANGED up until the accident, and now he’s all upset?

Keep it moving..

With the whole brandy thing..i mean i don’t really think we can say much really say anything because none of us are really in either of their shoes so im not gonna sit there and tell them to get over it because yall know if it was vice versa you would still be upset. Deaths not easy to get over with ya know .So i guess you can’t say much until it really happens to you.

Excuse me! But NOBODY can speak for BRANDY & NOONE can speak for the WIDOWER in this case (unless you lost your WIFE/HUSBAND or a very, very close Relative or loved one) Who are some of you to judge how long a person should mourn for anothers death. That man has a right to greive the loss of his wife for as long as it takes.

When some of ya’ll go through that type of Devastating loss then you will understand until then you really don’t know what you are talking about (you “cannot” relate)!! You have no idea where this mans “mental state” is right now. I have Respect for the man & I know where he is coming from (I lost someone close to me, at the hands of someone else, as I mentioned earlier).

BRANDY does not give a shit because it wasn’t her Mother, Father, or her brother Ray J. So thats how she can move on so quickly & not give a shit. Her conscience is alot better than mines because I sure as hell wouldn’t be “partying”—I’d be out doing some charity work, going to places to hear people in the same situation speak out amongst each other, She can be doing so much more than what she is. (maybe she has, we don’t know everything).

But I don know this…it isn’t my place to say when someone should get over the loss of someone really close to them, because that takes a whole lot more time thana person may “think”. Once again..you have to go through it to understand where the man is coming from. I feel that mans pain.

I hope God gives him strength to move on, & forgive Brandy for what she has done.

Excuse me! But NOBODY can speak for BRANDY & NOONE can speak for the WIDOWER in this case (unless you lost your WIFE/HUSBAND or a very, very close Relative or loved one) Who are some of you to judge how long a person should mourn for anothers death. That man has a right to greive the loss of his wife for as long as it takes.

When some of ya’ll go through that type of Devastating loss then you will understand until then you really don’t know what you are talking about (you “cannot” relate)!! You have no idea where this mans “mental state” is right now. I have Respect for the man & I know where he is coming from (I lost someone close to me, at the hands of someone else, as I mentioned earlier).

BRANDY does not give a shit because it wasn’t her Mother, Father, or her brother Ray J. So thats how she can move on so quickly & not give a shit. Her conscience is alot better than mines because I sure as hell wouldn’t be “partying”—I’d be out doing some charity work, going to places to hear people in the same situation speak out amongst each other, She can be doing so much more than what she is. (maybe she has, we don’t know everything).

But I don know this…it isn’t my place to say when someone should get over the loss of someone really close to them, because that takes a whole lot more time thana person may “think”. Once again..you have to go through it to understand where the man is coming from. I feel that mans pain.

I hope God gives him strength to move on, & forgive Brandy for what she has done.

I think that David Banner has some valid points but at the same time he should show more respect for those that have paved the way for him. I am apart of that black youth that he mentions so often and I do not feel as if anything that leaders such as Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Julian Bonds or Bill Cosby have said are bashing me in any way. I believe that what they have said is the truth and people get upset when you hear the truth.

David Banner’s heart is in the right place but he seems to have a little misguided anger. He want’s to be a voice for the black community but you don’t do it by being rude to those that have marched on the streets of Selma, been arrested at sit ins and forced to the back of the bus to do that . He should work with these indivduals to solve these pressing issues and develop some actual resolutions to these problems …that’s all I have to say.

83.
ROUNDNBRWN
Friday, August 17, 2007

I AGREE WITH DAVID BANNER!!! WHY IS OPRAH OVER THERE IN AFRICA, BUILDING SCHOOLS, WHEN THERE ARE PLENTY OF POOR BLACK KIDS IN AMERICA WHO NEED HELP WITH THEIR TUITION FOR COLLEGE AND JUST HELP LIVING PERIOD! JESSE AND AL NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT THIS MAN IS SAYING…HE MAKES A LOT OF SENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DENISE SAID: STUDENT LOANS AND GRANTS EXISTS FOR POOR KIDS WHO WANT TO GO TO COLLEGE, AND ALSO THERE ARE PLENTY OF UNIVERSITIES THAT OFFER LOWER TUITION RATES. IF YOU HAVE TO GET A FULL TIME JOB AND GO TO SCHOOL PART-TIME DO THAT. THERE IS NO EXCUSE NOWADAYS IN AMERICA TO NOT HAVE AN EDUCATION. I USE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT OPRAH NOT DOING ENOUGH FOR AMERICAN BLACKS, BUT HEY, I DO NOT NEED HER ORDER TO GET AHEAD. I AM VERY PROUD OF OPRAH, SHE WENT FROM BEING A DIRT POOR KID IN MISSISSIPPI, TO A MOGUL. I DO NOT AGREE WITH EVERYTHING SHE DOES OR SAYS, BUT HEY SHE DOES NOT MAKE BLACK FOLKS LOOK BAD.

interesting ….

like chris rock once said “it’s a war, niggas v. black people and the niggas have got to go!” david banner is an embarrassment to black folks who work hard, are educated, and can speak without using vulgar language in every sentence.

David Banner is a bad influence on these kids growing up. He would have made points to take action had it not been for his stupidity in disrespect telling another brotha to suck his &*^%. What the hell is that? How can Banner set an example when he doesn’t respect others. My parents grandparents taught me to respect others. These very black leaders today fought and stood in the rain watched brothers get beaten to death by the white man or cops where only a hand few of black people protest against it. During that time our parents were washing dishes, waiting tables and cleaning floors so we could have a decent education and be happy not even realizing how poor we really were.

Banner lost me at suck my *(&1. Those very black leaders he disrespected fought against the white man for equal rights for all people of color. Who was behind Rosa Parks and marched with Martin Luther King Jr while white people spat on them, arrested them and where black people lived in fear from the white man.

Now people like Banner fight against black people. How can we get ahead fighting against each other instead of working together. I don’t blame Oprah or Rev Sharpton to ignore some of these crazy azz bs talking rappers. They have no respect and why should Oprah or any leader who fought so hard and know what it really is like to live where the majority black people in that time period were single black parents had to eat syrup on a slice of bread and oatmeal each breakfast.

It’s the typical repeat of another ignorant ass trying to grab attention while he’s rapping about claiming the territory, shooting another brotha and calling women in videos hos. This is just another rapper 50 cent wanna be who thinks calling out black leaders for attention. Just trying to outdo somebody else.

David please tell me when you get into trouble and your homies will rat and sell you out who are you going to turn to when the white man drags your behind to a jail. Who do you see Lil Kim and Foxy run to when they get in trouble.

You talk BS but you young rappers do not know how to handle the white man when you get in trouble. When you get your azz in trouble with the white man , all these people agreed with you will laugh and say you are ignorant and the other rappers will turn on you like they do each other. The only black people these white people get intimidated is by the black leaders. They have no fear of a ignorant rapper. Your name isn’t big as Jay-z or Diddy and you don’t have enough clout with these white folks to get bail your self out. These very black leaders will still be there to help bail you out. But being the ignorant nigga you are you will be too stupid to appreciate

Let me just say this, first off like someone else touched on, that’s not David Banner in that picture. Lol.

I notice that many people are asking, “What has David Banner done?” without checking to see what David Banner has done. To Bill’s credit, he asked the same rhetorical question and went out to find the anwser, post #124. I already knew that the brother was involved in many programs and sponsorships to help the black community so that was never an issue with me. As an aside, who says that you have to have your hand and your pockets in a million and one programs to have a right to question who, allegedly, is “leading the black community” any damn way? The issue that I have with some of the people who have said things against this man, David Banner, is that it seems as if it’s coming from a bourgeois perspective. I think it shows the level of the brother’s character that he has a college degree, which many black people value more than life itself, and he still has not forgotten about his community.

I think it’s worth examinig that many people on this thread assumed that he was not educated because he spoke out against this society. That’s why I say I measure mentalities, not words. Understand one thing as well; just because you don’t hear David Banner on every other song like you do that syruphead, Lil Wayne, doesn’t mean that the brother is not stackin’ paper. He has produced many hit records that people are probably not aware he has produced. In my honest opinion, the problems that the black community has are spiritual and societal issues, not economic. This is what Banner is touching on that his detractors don’t seem to understand.

Whether a person is ignorant or not has very little to do with their education. Some of the most ignorant and honestly, stupidest, people that I’ve ever met were college and graduate school graduates. Most of our black graduates come out of college enamored of the caucasian and have their mind set only on how they can improve his society and make money for him while getting a sizable cut for themselves. That’s why it seems to me that some of the furor against Banner is from a bourgeois stance. He’s a black male and a rapper that speaks against this society, so he’s obviously uneducated and stupid right? He must be disenchanted, unsuccessful, bitter, and broke right? This from “his own people”, many of whom would probably get DISMANTLED in a one-on-one debate with the brother by the way.

Hypothetically, if your belief is that “blacks need to do for self”, then what the hell does the black community need Al Sharptongue for in the first place? Lol, as a matter of fact, if your belief is that “blacks need to do for self”, then why champion voting for? The other races have arrived in America far after blacks, have surpassed blacks, and I never hear them asking each other who they’re going to vote for. They just continue to unify, create their own businesses, and generate their own revenue for their own communities. Furthermore in 27 years of life on this earth, living in NYC, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a homeless Asian man or East Indian man or African man for that matter. I’ve seen hundreds, if not thousands, of black and hispanic homeless people though. Those people of the other races recognize the importance of their culture and history, how it correlates to their success AS A RACE, and it encourages them to build each other up as opposed to tearing each other down. This is what alot of our people, in my opinion, don’t seem to grasp when they put forth their personal life philosophy that they act like is an actual “plan”.

Trying to get people to adopt your outlook on life is like trying to get them to make your favorite food, their favorite food. It’s fruitless. What some of you bourgeois, elitist negroes don’t understand is that any intelligent, clear-minded, ambitious INDIVIDUAL is going to succeed in any race. The topic at hand is the problems that we have as a RACE. This society is designed and aligned to protect certain races and destroy others. I think Hillary Clinton said it best when she brought out that whites that drop out of high school make more money than blacks that graduate. Mind you, she didn’t say, “whites that GRADUATE from high school make more money than blacks that gradute”. She said,”whites that DROP OUT of high school make more money than blacks who graduate.” I’m not really a stat man, but that was a staggering statistic. It basically shatters the negro’s hopes and dreams of societal equality through education.

Although, it may seem funny that R. Sharpton’s camp came back with their reply. It’s not. This is a Reverend- an ordian minister and your people basically released a statements calling the guy a homo. It’s tasteless- you’d think they would set an example and respond without the homosexuality references. It took away from their response because I kept thinking why would a Rev let that statement be release? David’s statement had so many curse words they could have turned it around and used it as a basis for their platform (against Hip-Hop; cursing,disrespect, etc) instead they just fell into a hole.

Brandy- no one knows how Brandy feels. No one if she’s just putting on a show or could care less. She could be thinking everyday about taking a life, it was an accident but she still caused it. Just because you see her for a couple of hours smiling or just because you see pictures of her partying at a club it doesn’t mean that she’s not thinking about the lady every day.

I can understand how it’s probably just hard for the widower to see because the pictures of her partying are in mags and on the internet.

@214 TIANNI

CAN YOU PICK A SIDE OF THE FENCE AND STAY THERE…..YOUR POST WAS ALL TYPES OF WRONG…YOU CONTRADICTED YOURSELF AT LEAST THREE TIMES…

FIRST YOU SAID NO ONE CAN SPEAK FOR BRANDY OR THE WIDOWER, AND THEN TWO PARAGRAPHS DOWN IN YOUR POST….YOU FUCKIN PROCEED TO TELL ALL OF US HOW BRANDY DON’T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THIS MAN AND HIS FAMILY. WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FIRST, UNLESS YOU KNOW BRANDY OR HER FAMILY AND HAVE SPOKEN WITH HER, AND SHE POINT BLANK SAID SHE COULD CARELESS ABOUT THIS MAN AND HIS FAMILY….WHAT GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO SPEAK SO FRANKLY ON HER BEHALF….SERIOUSLY, I WAS JUST WONDERIN!? HOW DO YOU KNOW HOW SHE FEELS? AND IN ALL FAIRNESS, THERE’S NO SPECIFIED TIME TO GRIEVE ANYTHING, DEPENDS ON THE PERSON, AND THE ACCIDENT HAPPENED LAST DECEMBER, HERE, IN 3 MORE MONTHS, IT WILL BE A YEAR SINCE THE ACCIDENT….I THINK SHE STAYED IN THE HOUSE AND OUT OF THE PUBLIC’S EYE AT LEAST A GOOD SIX MONTHS, ONLY SEEING HER IN THE RECENT TWO MONTHS, SO WHAT’S YOUR POINT….

AND ONCE AGAIN, ALL THE DETAILS OF THE CRASH HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED, AND MIGHT I ADD AGAIN, BRANDY HAS NOT BEEN CHARGED WITH ANY TYPE OF NEGLIGENCE, SO WHY ARE YOU BEING SO CRITICAL OF HER….

SO SPEAK FOR YOURSELF, AND SPEAK FOR WHAT YOU WOULD DO, AND PLEASE DON’T PUT WORDS IN BRANDY’S MOUTH PERHAPS TO SUIT YOUR OWN PURPOSES….I’VE NEVER HEARD OR SAY, NOR HAS HER ACTIONS ELUDED TO SHE DON’T CARE ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE!

THAT IS DAVID BANNER IN THAT PICTURE. HE CUT ALL OF THAT HAIR FROM AROUND HIS FACE . PLEASE KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT B4 MAKING COMMENTS

@223 sweetie

WHO’S HYPER NOW HOE! THROWING STONES IN MY YARD, BUT GOT BIG BULLDOZERS IN YOURS, FUCK OFF HOE! YOU’RE CRAZY.

JSCENCE GO TAKE SOME MEDICATION . IM NOT HYPER I JUST STATED THE FACTS, WITHOUT USING CURSE WORDS OR EXCLAMATION MARKS. SO NOPE TRY AGAIN ,CRAZY ASS GO SEEK HELP … BOUT TO LOOSE YOURSELF VIA WEB LMAO LOSER