we all just need 2 support each other…period

What the HELL!!!

Whay can’t black people just get alone PLEASE

damm what do these people want brandy to do??? spend the rest of her life crying about what happened? they just trying to get her money anyway.

omg, i was first! sorry-stayin on topic though…im tired of these fueds w/in the black community…like how about both of them put that energy & money into something more newsworthy & positive

y is they mad cuz brandy doin wat she wan to do……she jus not bout to sit around an b depressed im happy to see her out dey jus hatin i mean it feel lik dat crash was years ago i mean t think the girl said she sorry wat more can she do but show up fo all of her court dates she jus not bout to sit at home an do nothin i mean she has a life 2 u kno

2 me dat do not look lik david banner n dat pic

I luv ving but damn it took him a long time 2 give his condolences to the family. I hope u at least called them.

Brandy out partying “so soon after the crash”???! I swear the first pics of her partying were two weeks ago and the crash, was what, like 4 months ago. What is she meant to do…stay inside for 10 years!?!

I dunno seems a lil too much for me…I guess some one wants to up the ante on that lawsuit…..

DAVID BANNER IS 110% CORRECT!!! I was getting into it with this lady about the youth of today too. She was just repeating everything Sharpton and Jackson says and I blew her face off. She didn’t know what to say. It’s not about bashing us and saying our “inevitable doom” is near. Formulate a freakin plan if you have so much free time…stop complaining and do something…but you can’t because you don’t know what we go through as young people and that’s why no change has been brought about…You can’t tell a dog about being a cat! You can’t expect the black society we live in today to be anything mildly close to 40 and 50 years ago. We have taken our freedom and ran with it!!! The change will have to come from us not a bunch of old political hot heads…I’m sorry….

IN REGARDS TO THE BRANDY SITUATION I CAN SEE WHY THE WIDOWER WOULD FEEL THIS WAY-BUT UNFORTUNATELY LIFE GOES ON-

BRANDY WAS MIA FOR A MINUTE AFTER THIS ACCIDENT HAPPENED-I DON’T KNOW FOR A FACT BUT I BELIEVE THAT SHE IS REMORSEFUL FOR WHAT HAPPENED-BUT HE CAN’T EXPECT HER NOT TO CONTINUE LIVING HER LIFE

HE SHOULD SEEK THERAPY-MY CONDOLENCES GOES OUT TO HIM AND EVERYONE INVOLVED BUT HIS EXPECTATIONS ARE A BIT UNREALISTIC

WHAT DOES HE SUGGEST BE DONE-BRANDY SHOULD BE MADE TO REMAIN IN HIDING FOR THE REST OF HER LIFE? IT STILL WOULDN’T BRING HIS WIFE BACK-

AND IT WAS A VERY UNFORTUNATE AND DEADLY ACCIDENT-ACCIDENT IS THE KEY WORD NOT INTENTIONAL

so what does the widower want brandy to do lock herself in a box in her house…..life has to go on.

WOW!!!! So much goin on in black entertainment and its nothing positive

THAT’S WHAT’S UP DAVID BANNER…I SAY BANNER IN ‘08, *UCK CLINTON & OBAMA!!!!

I feel what David Banner is saying. Our so called black leaders can only be found when it’s convient for them. Or they only wanna give something when it’s a good tax write off. Although it’s time for us to stop complaining about what these so called leaders are not doing and start becoming real leaders ourselves.

Ving, get rid of those mutts!!

First of all why cant we all juss get along? There are so many other things that we could be worrying about rite now .

Second I think Brandy has the right to party. She went to court, she handling her business let her have some fun!

David Banner is on point .

What do the victims expect brandy to do, sit and cry all day ? Im sure she feel bad about the incident but she have to continue her life.

Oh and to the family that is trippin about Brandy, be easy & let the dead bury the dead.

Why would one man say to another man “Suck my D_ck”.
That’s a perculiar thing for one man to say to another man…

There are many way to express dissatifaction or annoyance with a person.

Why would a person choose THOSE particular words to express anger…..

That’s probably why Rev Sharpton’s Office released the statement that they released, because it’s understandable to question a person’s sexual orientation if that particular statement had been released to the press.

I’ve never read anything so ridiculous in all my life.
Mr. Banner has no respect for anything or anybody.
I mean, at least he could respect his elders….

Men just don’t go around telling other men to suck their d_cks….

and
Regardless, of how you may feel about Rev. Sharpton,
He is a ordained minster.

People have no respect for Gor or his ministers anymore…

Peace

If you watch The State Of Black America whenever the hell it comes on…they spend all their time bashing each other on stage instead of formulating a plan. Whenever “Adults” (45 and over) come up to me all “high and mighty” thinking I’m some run of the mill negro I shut them down! They may think we’re materialistic, misogynistic ragamuffins but we have brains too (well some of us). Until we band together and leave behind the “Generation X” label can we truly overcome….and keep Kim Kardashian away from black men!!! LOL….

….Does anyone else but me think Kim Kardashian and Nicole Scherzinger are the same person….I think Kim takes off her butt to become Nicole and puts it on when she’s bangin black dudes….I don’t know….lol….I’m mad I went from serious to comical like that…lol

David Banner is bold, though Sharpton can get on my nerves there is some truth to what he is saying. Not a good look to attack him in front of the world though. Speak with the man one on one. They see too much of us attacking each other as it is.

On Brandy that man will get paid. She didn’t even come out of the house for six months. If she wasn’t a celebrity you wouldn’t even know her whereabouts.. I completely understand he must be hurting but Brandy wasn’t drunk or high, it was an accident, she has the right to move on. She still gotta pay him anyway.

I feel Ving situation was an accident as well, an unfortunate one and the timing is horrible with the Mike Vick situation but an accident nonetheless.

I’m not going to lie I would be mad also if the foot was on the other shoe.

I think we need to stop waiting on Leaders and BE leaders ourselves Oprah , Jesse and Al can’t save the world.

@ BILL

…yeah that’s the only thing I didn’t like….

The crush was last December and its recently we have seen her partying..of course shes not going to stay saddened bc its takes family and friends long to grieve about a pass one so I dont understand why be mad @ her…it is sad for some1 to die it always is but i dont believe Brandy not living life will do anything to benefit

Al Sharpton needs to stop messin with David Banner and head down to Jena, Louisiana. There are much more important things to discuss. Calling each other names is not solving the problems that are attacking our community. Truthfully, I’m disgusted with both David Banner and Rev. Sharpton.

Bradny was driving wrecklessly , but no she wasn’t drunk.

#4..It isnt her money..I am sure she was well insured….and if not oh well…Let her run over yo mama and then we can talk…I doubt your opinion would be the same….

Good that Dave came back on the intellectual tip. He makes a lot of sense.

If he mourning so much how come he know Brandy is out partying. The only way I see Brandy is on random blogs in a couple pics. Why he searchin blogs, if you in so much pain. GOD bless him and his family, but we know it’s about money.

i know the lady family still mourns… but it will be a year soon,… brandy is doingthe right thing by enjoying her life,,,, these ppl only want the money… and that means their doing it for all the wrong reasons!!

who is David banner again?? when was his last single??

Do Dave actually no WHAT they are doing, he needs to worry about what HE is doing and stop waiting on others.

I can’t sit here and say that they aren’t doing anything , because I don’t know them and I honestly can’t jump the gun and say things like that. That’s just not me. *I know what I am doing.

I do agree on he says bc the 1st time I heard about Jena 6 is on concreteloop and 1nce 2day on BET…where are our “black leaders”??

I understand David Banner’s point, but I can also see the point of view of Sharpton and other leaders. I’m 24 and I’m an educator. I notice that much of the youth whether it be white, black, latino emmulate what they see and act how they think they should act according to the media. I did a career speech and a majority of my minoirity students wanted to be a fashion designer or music producer. Why? Because that’s who they see making all this money and having all of this power. I see my generation and younger not aspiring to building affluent communities but only caring about themselves and making the almighty dollar. Think of it like this…how often do you hear about amazing black architects, scientists, doctors, lawyers, teachers etc.

so idis kat is saying he wouldnt be mourning if brandy wasnt out partyin
i understand what he’s TRYINA say…and we all grieve during loss…but chill out man…your money is coming soon enuff…im sure it will brighten your spirtis

ummm… wow RKJVILL3000 freakin wow

LMFAO!!!!!

David Banner got straight played by Sharpton’s camp.

Sharpton’s Camp said:
“From time to time we do encounter people that have sexual fantasies about Reverend Al Sharpton, but they are always women and Crump’s proposition is a first,”

LOL!!! It’s amazing how he changed is tone from “profanity filled rant” to “a call for action” after he got punked. Basically, Banner’s showed his ignorance and got sat down (and by Rev. Sharpton no less). Banner needs to go that way ———–>
:)

What in the hell David Banner? You sorry ass rapper! Hip-Hop is not effecting the youth? Are you fucking crazy? I have so many friends that has been mislead by music and by people that being a dope-boy is where it’s at. That we’re only here in the world to make money, fuck bitches, and die! What are you David Banner doing to reach out to the community? When are you going to start sending encouraging messages not subliminal messages? GUNS, VIOLENCE, AND SEX IS YOUR MESSAGE! What would be the point of Oprah, Al Sharpton, etc going out talking to the youth and giving them words of encouragement? Right after they do that the people who they really listen to, and pay much more attention to is coming out with songs like”Nine Milliliter” and “Nigga With Money”. Your music is for people in their thirties, but yet it is target at the demographic ages of 13-24. Them are the people listening to your music! And what the hell why are our strong black leaders are sitting up here arguing with each other for? White people are watching, and they’re cracking up because they know our people. Black America it’s time for change, if not now, WHEN? Answer the question please. We’ve come to far to be acting so gat damn ignorant. To damn far! I bet out asses wouldn’t be satisfied if we we’re back in those cotton fields, then that’s when everybody would come together. Just imagine if blacks that paved the way for us to have this type of freedom, had it! How do you think they’ll take advantage of it?

Brandy. What the hell? Wasn’t this like a year ago? That mutha fucka betta get his single ass up, and move on with his life. Why the fuck should she be sad?

David Banner is what I like to call a “Corporate Thug” he is smart as hell but chooses to live “the life”….If he ever gave it up (which I strongly encourage) he could a job in publice relations and communications and mainly business…worst case scenario he could be a radio host……lol…

david banner aint right that shit. He aint that talented!

THAT WIDOWER NEEDS TO STFU

@ BILL

You’re right on so many points. My main beef is, if you’re going to make a PUBLIC statement about a public figure with regards to a POLITICAL issue, the least you could do is speak with some damn dignity and class.

Brandy come over here so I can wipe some of your grease off your forehead and out it on this skillet….Im cookin and omelet…..lol…..

#31 This goes on ALL the time I heard about this Jena SIx a LONG time ago. What are they supposed to do stop what they currently handling and go there?? NO ATROCITY IS WORSE THAN ANOTHER.

Jesse Jackson is protesting gun laws in Chicago , because 32 children got killed there in the past year.

You can’t expect them to do everything. I think that’s the problem with some Blacks they have to wait on someone to tell them what to do instead of taking initiative yourself.

*ponders the Kim K and Nicole Scherzinger theory… someone’s on to something.

MSMIAMI

He did…I’ve heard him speak on political issues before….he sounds intellegent as hell we he aint sayin “bitch” or “hoe” or “nigga”.

I totally agree with your comment # 9! David Banner should of went about it another way instead of telling him to suck his d***. Maybe he should have said go suck A d***. lol just playing. But for real the leaders need to quit worrying about petty rap lyrics and artists and start worrying about real issues! i.e. The Jen Six ( which needs more signatures!) They need to stop bashing and come up with a plan. Thats why they’re leaders. Quit pointing the blame at everyone and start doing something about it!

!!!!!!TELLIN SOMEBODY TO SUCK YOU IS AN OBVIOUS STATEMENT MADE OUT OF EMMOTION!!!! I GET MAD AT FOLKS AND SAY *UCK YOU BUT IT DOES NOT MEAN I WANT TO HAVE INTERCOURSE W/ THEM. NO!!!!
PLEASE LETS NOT TAKE OUT OF CONTEXT WHAT HE IS REALLY SAYIN. AS MUCH A “QUEEN” OPRAH IS, & I LOVE OPRAH, WHAT HAS SHE RECENTLY DONE FOR YOUNG BLACK AMERICANS? AND WE ALL KNOW AL SHARPTON, REV OR NOT, JUMPS ON WHATEVER CURRENT BLACK ISSUE THAT GETS HIM THE MOST PUBLICITY SAME W/ JESSE J.

I agree with # 9, & #14. I also agree with #36. Very good points! But the African American/Black race are all held liable. Raising our own doesn’t stop at our biological children, it extends to AA children in general.

are we forgetting that david banner was really the only black entertainer who put his all into helping out with hurricane katrina???
of course he is angry and dammit he had the right to say what he had to say, when you see our leaders out there talking about changing this and changing that and only coming to the limelight when something major happens then yes they should be called out…its getting to the point where it is really ridiculous….
when imus went nuts then all the “leaders” wanted to jump on the media band wagon, when michael was about to go to jail for that mess they came out the wood works to, now that the jena 6 are getting media attention they want to put their 5 cents in….they do this mess only for money and to keep their mugs on tv, they are not helping nothing they are just making matters worse…

I also agree with #45. You guys are making some very good points!

Well everyone here knows I think Al Sharpton is not a very good anything. And if any one can find proof that he went to seminary please send it to me. Oh and who ordained him a Minster. I think David Banner could have said it better but he is going in the right. It is sad but he said in a way that his peers could understand it.

sorry to be off subject but… I’ve always tried to pin point who kim resembled. However I always came up short of an answer. It was nicole all along!

People need to start worrying about what OTHERS are doing and wory about THEMSELVES. The Jena six IS NOT MORE WORSE OR LESS THAN 32 school children gettting killed and I actually think that it is less because THESE students are DEAD due to GUN violence. So Jesse Jackson should STOP helping them change gun laws and protesting to STOP the violence and go handle the JENA 6. Better yet, why some of ya’ll are criticizing what are YOU GUYS doing.

I am part of a church organization that reached troubled youth I have also signed petition for changing gun laws.

David Banner does have some valid points, but he is just contradicting himself throughout the entire article. Who is he leading and where is he taking them to? Why would he need anyone to tell him how to act and to know the lyrics he writes does mean something to inner city kids. Anyone in there 30’s should know where their life is headed and know if they are leading people in a positive direction .

I THINK AL IS JUST AS FAKE AS THAT DAMN MESS HE GOT ON HIS HEAD

YEAH I’M WITH DAVE ON THIS ONE. HE’S ONLY SAYING WHAT OTHERS HAVE WANTED TO SAY FOR A LONG TIME. HE JUST SORT OF SAID IT IN HIS OWN STAB WOUND, SKEEZ BUCKET, GHETTO FRIED CHICKEN, BITCH BOUNCE “DAT” AZZ KINDA WAY. THATS ALL

BAMBAM said:

@ BILL

You’re right on so many points. My main beef is, if you’re going to make a PUBLIC statement about a public figure with regards to a POLITICAL issue, the least you could do is speak with some damn dignity and class.

Bill Said:

EXACTLY !!

Why would one Grown Black Man tell another Grown Black Man to suck his D_ck”,
and then have that statement be released to the public.
All over the world, people are talking about how David Banner told REV.Al Sharpton to suck his D_ck”

The first question they had was : Who the hell is David Banner
The second question would be: Why are Blacks so disrespectful to one another

Listen to me:
White people feel that we are ignorant, have no class, and no respect.
We are not impressing the world by telling others to “suck our d_ck”

Closing Point: Remember a few months ago when Imus called the Woman’s Basketball team a bunch of Napy Headed Hoes…….

Where do you think Imus got the nerve to say that from

Imus was simply emulating the disrespect shown by one Black Person to another..

I would never in my wildest dreams tell a Older person to “Suck my D_ck”
that’s the craziest think I’ve ever read in all my life…..

Man, I don’t understand young people.

#38 Because the media don’t display EVERYTHING they do , Do you know Oprah , Jesse or Al, personally ? So how do you know what they do???

# 48 I CO-SIGN

I would also NEVER be disrespectful to ANY elder regardless if I disagreed with him.

Brandy should be able to do what she wants as long as she is able to attend her court proceedings. Why is the other woman even looking for any monetary compensation? How does he even if Brandy is partying or not. I guest the lawyer feel that if they combine the 2 lawsuits that he wo9uld get an even bigger compensation for himself by representing to normal people in a trial against a celebrity. If the situation involved a celebunte, do you think they would maek the big of a deal about it?.

David Banner’s letter was very interesting. He has some very excellent points.

Ving Rhams should have been issued an apology and he should have a covered the funeral expenses and He need to have those dogs put to sleep or put a muzzle on them.

#52….cant speak for others but I’m pretty much doing the same you are doing….I speak to troubled youth, mostly teen girls who are pregnant..i try my best to make my voice heard in every situation necessary…
but at the same time it is only so much that we can do, people like jesse, al oprah, beyonce, david, jay, obama, diddy, whoever…who have more of the resources to reach more people and affect others by their actions and interests can do more….

I agree with David Banner to a certain extent…when there are tragedies where are the leaders of the Black community? However, the initial way Banner addressed the topic…telling Sharpton to “suck his….” well you know was tasteless and took the focus away from his initial message/concern.

Banner most definitely could have gotten his point across in a much more constructive manner, I’m sure he would have recieved positive response if he had done so.

Futhermore, why are people relying on Sharpton, Oprah or J.Jackson to save the day? Who designated them the voice for all Black people…if you don’t like something in your community take the situation into your own hands. Thats the problem now too many people are sitting back waiting on these so-called “leaders” to solve the problems within our communities. ***~***NEWSFLASH***~*** These people don’t even reside in our communities themselves, why should they give a fyck? And Sharpton jumps on topics that will get him press because, this is a paying gig for him…meaning if it isn’t a guarantee he will be featured on some TV news show or on the radio airwaves 9 times outta 10 he doesn’t give a damn.

Instead of pointing the finger…do something damnit. You can attend the meetings your Senators and State Representives have when they are voting on local laws to be passed…they are PUBLIC sessions. Actually, sit in one…and see what plans they have in store for your community. Start petitions for more support for our communities…go to the County or City Council board when you notice illegal shyt going on in your neighbood…keep reporting shyt even if it gets redundant and keep a record of it for legal purposes to get petitions signed or if you have to go to court to fight for your community. When kids get killed b.cuz of local thugs in your neighborhood don’t shake your head and cry for the innocent when you plan to do absolutely nothing but complain.

Al Sharpton is pretty much useless. I was completely through with him after that whole “roboho” situation. However, I don’t have much more respect for David Banner when he’s out saying ignorant shit like suck my dick.

DAVID BANNER IS ONE IGNORANT BACKWARD AZZ COUNTRY FUKK. THIS MUTHA FUKKA IS 30 SOMETHIN YEARS OLD AND HE’S TALKING ABOUT THESE LEADERS COMING TO THEM LIKE THEY ARE LITTLE CHILDREN SAYING WE GOT TO TALK ABOUT THIS. OUR BLACK LEADERS HAVE DONE THAT AND YOU BACKWARD AZZ IGNORANT FUKKS KEEP ON RAPPING ABOUT THE SAME OLD SHIIT THAT’S KILLING THE MINDS OF THE BLACK YOUTH. I WISH ALL OF YOUR BANK ACCOUNTS DRY UP AND PEOPLE STOP BUYING YOUR BULLSHIIT. YOU ARE TALKING A BUNCH OF NOTHING!! HOW DARE YOU TELL ANOTHER MAN TO SUCK YOUR DICK. ESPECIALLY A HISTORICAL PUBLIC BLACK FIGURE. YOU FUKKIN FAGGOT!! AND YOU THINK OPRAH AND AL WILL INVITE YOU ON THEIR SHOWS OR WASTE THEIR TIME TALKING TO YOUR SORRY AZZ? I FUKKIN HATE YOU DAVID BANNER! YOU ARE THE SCUM OF THE FUKKIN EARTH AND YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO THE BLACK RACE. FUKK YOU!!

WOW I LIKE THIS! IT’S LIKE STARRING ON MEET THE FAITH.

* grabs popcorn

People love to criticize others, but what are you guys doing?

I don’t know about AL , but Oprah and Jesse DOES a lot like somebody else said they can’t save the world, Why some of ya’ll are sitting down criticizing the like ya’ll know every single thing they do . I BET NONE OF YOU HAVE DONE HALF AS MUCH AS THEY DID.

I’m not a big fan of either , but I won’t criticize them cuz I know they have done more than I have.

@ 42 no 1 is telling any1 to stop what they are doing and go everywhere in the world to fix all the wrongs in the black community…

look at the raping of the girl from Duke and we later found it is bogus…they were all over it making sure the white men went to jail but here are 6 kids going to jail based on malicious treatments by white people BRING PRESS like they did for the “Duke raping”..
look @ the IMUS situation…they were all over it..Al was in every interview every radio station talking about this…makin sure IMUS got fired…
where have they been with this situation no statement no actions nothing…

For all…….Life goes on…The incident was tragic and we all felt it…but you have to move on and live

AIJUSWANNASAY said:

!!!!!!TELLIN SOMEBODY TO SUCK YOU IS AN OBVIOUS STATEMENT MADE OUT OF EMMOTION!!!! I GET MAD AT FOLKS AND SAY *UCK YOU BUT IT DOES NOT MEAN I WANT TO HAVE INTERCOURSE W/ THEM. NO!!!!
PLEASE LETS NOT TAKE OUT OF CONTEXT WHAT HE IS REALLY SAYIN. AS MUCH A “QUEEN” OPRAH IS, & I LOVE OPRAH, WHAT HAS SHE RECENTLY DONE FOR YOUNG BLACK AMERICANS? AND WE ALL KNOW AL SHARPTON, REV OR NOT, JUMPS ON WHATEVER CURRENT BLACK ISSUE THAT GETS HIM THE MOST PUBLICITY SAME W/ JESSE J.

Bill Said:

Releasing a Statement saying “Tell Rev Al to Suck my D_ck” does not make David Banner appear like a intelligent person, a person who can control his emotions, or a person who THINKS about what he is going to say before saying it…..

Would you ever elect a person that tell other to Suck his D_ck ?

It’s just not the proper thing for a INTELLIGENT person to say.
I understand he is angry, but we (the black people) are educated people who don’t have to resort to profanity to express ourselves.

Especialy when we know that other will be reading our statements.

Peace

@ 38 David Banner has a bachelor degree in English, I believe . So its not hard to believe he wrote that statement hisself . Another thing , as far as him offering his penis to Al Sharpton , I really don’t think he meant it literally .

#62 THANK YOU I CO_SIGN EVERYTHING

GET UP AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT YOUR DAMN SELF.

Damn the wreck was almost a year ago the girl has to move on with her life and so do they I know it’s hard and life sometimes beats us up but tomorrow is not promised and I don’t think it would be fair to her or her child if she lived her life in complete seclusion she’s human like the next person and I’m sure her heart is filled with a sadness that we will never understand. This could’ve happened to anyone. He should be praying and encouraging his children to move forward instead of on-line stalking Brandy’s every move.

David banner’s comments were so childish and disrespectful he could have taken the mature approach and handled the situation like a man and Al Sharpton’s reply is straight hilarious but equally out of line.

* puts cornbread in a straight jacket.

#67 Jesse Jackson LIVES in Chicago and they have been working to protest and change gun laws about 32 school children that died this past year. THAT is where he has been. How do you know he has EVEN heard about hte Jena six when so few people have.

Jesse Jackson does a lot the MEDIA just doesn’t display it. how can you judge someone and you DON’t know WHAT they do???

if i can recall this is not the first time david banner has made a comment about this type of issue….do u guys know CL?

NO OFFENSE, BUT WHAT DO THEY EXPECT BRANDY TO DO,SHE DIDN’T KNOW THAT WOMAN,SHE CAN’T SIT AROUND MOPING FOR THE REST OF HER LIFE, I’M SURE THAT SHE IS TERRIBLY SORRY FOR WHAT SHE CAUSED.

VING RHAMES, THE DOGS LOOK MEAN

DAVID BANNER JUST WANT SOME MEDIA ATTENTION BECAUSE HE HASN;T CAME OUT WITH AN ALBUM AND HE DON;T WANT TO BE FORGOTTON,YEAH THEY HARD ON RAPPERS, BUT YOU DON’T SEE THE HOTT RAPPERS COMPLAINING,BECAUSE THEY DON’T CARE THEY STILL GONNA KEEP DOIN WHAT THEY DO

Futhermore, why are people relying on Sharpton, Oprah or J.Jackson to save the day? Who designated them the voice for all Black people…if you don’t like something in your community take the situation into your own hands. Thats the problem now too many people are sitting back waiting on these so-called “leaders” to solve the problems within our communities. ***~***NEWSFLASH***~*** These people don’t even reside in our communities themselves, why should they give a fyck? And Sharpton jumps on topics that will get him press because, this is a paying gig for him…meaning if it isn’t a guarantee he will be featured on some TV news show or on the radio airwaves 9 times outta 10 he doesn’t give a damn.

Instead of pointing the finger…do something damnit. You can attend the meetings your Senators and State Representives have when they are voting on local laws to be passed…they are PUBLIC sessions. Actually, sit in one…and see what plans they have in store for your community. Start petitions for more support for our communities…go to the County or City Council board when you notice illegal shyt going on in your neighbood…keep reporting shyt even if it gets redundant and keep a record of it for legal purposes to get petitions signed or if you have to go to court to fight for your community. When kids get killed b.cuz of local thugs in your neighborhood don’t shake your head and cry for the innocent when you plan to do absolutely nothing but complain.

______________________________________________________________________

I 100% agree and co-sign.

GO SIT DOWN BANNER!!

Never mess with a man with a PERM!!!!!!

When are my people going to wake up and see that there are really no party lines anymore. I dislike Hillary Clinton and Obama, but that is not why the will both lose the election. It is because people like Jessie Jackson, Oprah, and Al Sharpton add their two cent and they don’t know the issues and they are misleading the youth. I believe that David Banner is not allowed to vote anymore, so he is anger at the people who pretend to be on his side at election time but are all over the place any other time. He’s not GAY because he made that statement. He’s upset. Like a lot of us are when we say thing that are out of line.

@ Jasmine

Cosign

AL SHARPTON IS PERMED OUT TROUBLE-MAKING PIMP/CROOK AND I’M TIRED OF HIS MONEY-GRUBBING ASS!

David Banner was disrespectful for telling Sharpton to suck his *ick. Just by making such an absurd statment he proved Sharpton, Jesse, and Oprah’s point. You don’t go around speaking fouly about your elders, no matter your opinion.

I always preach this message. No one can make you change. No one can make you do anything. They can reiterate the need for change, but it won’t mean a thing. Not unless it’s a personal choice.

We have to be the leader’s of our own lives. I say this b/c its true. You have to BECOME the change you want to see in the world. Oprah is already on point. She may have her flaws but I have nothing against her. Sharpton and Banner. The both of you have a lot of work to do as far as indvidual growth goes. If you think you can make a difference in the world, then become that difference and live your life by your own motto.

Instead of attacking Sharpton, Banner needs to undergo introspection cause bruh, u aint perfect. Sharpton, Jesse, and Oprah have way more class than you. At least they’re out in the community trying to make a change. What are you doing? Rapping about bitches and hoes.

I AGREE WITH DAVID BANNER!!! WHY IS OPRAH OVER THERE IN AFRICA, BUILDING SCHOOLS, WHEN THERE ARE PLENTY OF POOR BLACK KIDS IN AMERICA WHO NEED HELP WITH THEIR TUITION FOR COLLEGE AND JUST HELP LIVING PERIOD! JESSE AND AL NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT THIS MAN IS SAYING…HE MAKES A LOT OF SENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Okay he’s doing way too much!
I understand he’s grieving, but he can’t MAKE Brandy grieve for someone she didn’t know personally. I’m sure she’ll never forget what happened and that she feel guilty, but after all, it was an ACCIDENT. She didn’t set out to kill this woman.
Who’s to say she isn’t going to the club to get her mind off of the whole thing?
If she wasn’t a celebrity, he wouldn’t be doing this.

#74
what are you talking about “our leaders” dont hear things through media to get the information..I have a cousin who is an activist & a laywer and she hears situations b4 its on the news or even if it doesnt even get there…

second of all I didnt say JESSE JACKSON needs to stop what he is doing in CHICAGO or leave what hes doing to hndle jena 6 read what I write and understand it b4 you respond…

Bring attention to it…like he did with IMUS im sure when tragically those kids were dying he was still on his mission for that cause & bringing his statements about IMUS

and he has heard of it bc the parents of jena 6 contacted these “black leaders”

@ #24….DON’T AL NEED TO CARRY HIMSELF AND JESSE A$$ TO LOUISIANA!!!!!!!!!!!! STOP ARGUING WITH THAT MAN AND SHOW US WHO Y’ALL REPRESENT!

Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton are men of God but they are Democrats first. They are not in LA because it is not a big election state.

Right on #9 that was the most politically correct statement i’ve read on this site in a very long time, Kudos……. As for #18, who the fuck is Gor???? Don’t you mean God, you jackass! Forgive me Jesus. But you people have got to learn to say what u mean and mean what u say. #18 i doubt very seriously that you were involved in any of the Katrina efforts. So clearly you have no idea what it’s like to have that hate in your heart for the people who r telling u how to fix your broken home and or communities, but won’t help. Stop trying to tell people how to be angry. Go to bed!

Personally I do like David Banner, I remember when rappers started doing this golden ticket thing with their cds, like if u buy their cd and there was a ticket in it then you get a cool prize like a car,money or even a chance to meet the rapper. I believe Jay-z was doing this slim shady, and I want to say T.I as well, but David Banner was the only who gave away a school scholarship. And I’ve seen Mr.Banner speak and is very intelligent and really tries to help the community in his home town of Mississippi. Now what he said might not be the most appropriate, but he was probably very heated… and you know the rest, especially when some has strong feeling about a matter and is not thinking before they speak. Lord knows that Mr Sharpton has said something in things in his time.

PS don’t you think if he cared about his title (reverend), he would stop spending so much time at awards shows and album release parties. and he definately wouldn’t have released statement which went on to suggest that Banner is gay. “Vengance is mine sayeth the Lord….” Right???

They went too far with Imus. I didnt agree with his statements but I don’t feel he should have been fired. The same with Isaiah Washington. And please, we really need to stop playing the race card. Especially these celebrities: Foxy brown, Vivica, Isaiah, etc.

@83. So you really believe that children in Africa have it better than kids in America? Even blk kids in the ghetto? They barely have HALF of what the poorest Americans have. Not to mention the worst of AIDS. It’s Oprah’s money and she can do whatever the hell she wants with it. She doesn’t have to give aid to anyone. We shouldn’t look to Oprah to be our guardian angel. Like i mentioned b4, we’re the leader’s of our own lives. Take care of yourself and your own education. If Oprah wants to help then that’s her decision to make. But if you want to make your life right then it’s up to you to make those radical decisions that will only benefit you.

I’M SORRY, BRANDY CAN SING AND I LOVED HER WEAVE PHOTO SHOOT, BUT SHE IS NOT CUTE AT ALL! GOTDAMN GIRL! GET CHASELF 2GETHA. AND THAT WIDOWER CAN GO TO HELL, HE JUST WANTS SOMEONE TO GRIEVE WITH HIS AZZ. IT WAS AN ACCIDENT, BRANDY HAS MOVED ON, DAMN, PPL KILL ME, LOL

DAVID BANNER IS MORE THAN 100% CORRECT. I KNEW IT WAS SOME REASON WHY I LIKED THAT NI*** CAUSE HE ONE OF THE REALEST
PEOPLE IN THE GAME AND HE SPEAK REAL SHIT

@NoMoSoul

I agree with you for the most part on race, but I have been to Africa with the Millitary and on Vactions. I can tell that in alot of ways it is like America. Did you know that African College students can recieve special funding to attend school in the states. There are some bad areas here that look like some areas over there. Its scary because we are suppose to be advance right. And there AIDS Problem is not far from ours. Just because BET stop showing WRAP IT UP spots dosen’t mean we fixed the problem

BILL IT’S FELT, I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE A JOKE FOR A PERSON TO USE LANGUAGE LIKE THAT IN ADDRESSING ANY ISSUE…BUT I DO THINK THAT HIS FOLLOW UP COMMENT WAS MUCH MORE ON POINT ON WHAT HE MEANT.
GOD’S PEACE & BLESSINGS

FYI: I AM A MENTOR FOR A YOUTH ORGANIZATION. I HAVE ALSO STARTED A CAMPAIGN TO RAISE MONEY FOR AFRICANS IN DARFUR, SUDAN DISPLACED BY THE TERRORISTS-JANJAWEED. I ALSO VOULNTEER AT A FOOD SHELTER, I’VE RAISED FUNDS FOR CANCER RESEARCH & I EVEN GIVE BLOOD TIME TO TIME. BUT HOW MUCH POWER DO I HAVE IN DRAWING ATTENTION TO ISSUES OF BLACK POVERTY, BLACK HEALTH, BLACK CRIME, BLACK EDUCATION, ETC.??? NOT VERY MUCH!

DAVID BANNER CHOSE THOSE INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE THEY ARE SELF- PROFESSED LEADERS IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY THAT HAVE “POWER.” POWER TO CHANGE *UCKED UP ISSUES FOR OTHER BLACKS WHO DON’T HAVE THE PLATFORM TO CREATE ATTENTION FOR CHANGE TO HAPPEN.

I had to defend David Banner, too. Hip-hop did not create the things they rap about. That doesn’t mean they are not responsible for their lyrics. The big CEOs want little kids to rap about crap so they can get richer. Once again the CEOs are pimping these kids, and instead of going after the CEOs, black leaders are attacking the kids.

At least David Banner is trying to do something for them. He’s not a stupid rapper just talking, he’s someone with first hand experience of what these kids go through from day to day. Black people get a little education and they can talk about problems until they are blue in the face, but not many or doing what they need to do to fix it. All this fighting is just making the CEOs richer.

This whole issue is just amazing to me. No one want to take responsibilty for anything so lets put it off on someone else. It is not the balck leaders fault so it must be hip hop. Its not hip hop its white people. But lets stop passing the blame and deal with the situation at hand. Lets realize that we all had a hand in why things are the way they are. Whether it is a B**** or H** in your lyrics, or it is you not saying anything uplifting to those dudes just hanging out on the corner when you knew they should have been in school. The problem is that everyone thinks it is not their responsibility and they wait around for someone else to make the change. Start with yourself. And don’t delude yourself into thinking that people dont see you and you are not a role model for somebody. Because even if you don’t know it someone is watching you and looking up to you. So remember that when you go out and have three babies by three different men (you may have a cousin that wants to grow up and be just like you). Remember someone is watching you when you go out and sell those drugs that are destroying our community. Remember someone is watching you when you speak and smile to others you see on the street. Remeber someone is watching you when you help that old lady with her bags or open the car door for your girlfirend. Someone is watching and what you do and say it taken in by others. It is all of our responsibilities. So David take responsibility for your lyrics. Kids are taught to curse at extrememly young ages even if their parents don’t use profanity around them because of some song they may have listened to with their friend. Talk about your situation of growing up in poverty stricken neighborhoods but don’t glorify it and make it seem like this life will get you fine women and nice cars. Everyone has a responsibility to the youth it is time we start taking that reponsibility a lot more seriously. Oprah, Al sharpton, David Banner, Ludacris, me and you included.

“Stop Attacking The Kids”, how about “Stop Attacking the Woman”!

These rappers kill me. They act like they are the only people with the right to freedom of speech. The same way they have a right to say what they want is the same we we have a right to call them out on it. They want to make million’s disrespecting woman, calling each other nigga and glorifying a gangsta lifestyle most of them have never even lived and then they expect us, to support them and praise them for how much money they make and the little piecmeal work they do for charity. That’s like the dope man coming through the hood giving out toys at christmas. Get the fuck outta here!

Some of these rappers are fucking idiots. I don’t care how many businesses you own, if you have to make a living disrespecting YOUR OWN FUCKING PEOPLE, you are a fucking idiot. Slave traders were business men too and so are drug dealers. Owning a business and making paper is NOT and accomplishment in and of itself, especially when it’s done at someone elses expense.

Don’t they realize the only reason gansta rap is so big is because it’s done at the EXPENSE of black people. Do you think if these brothers were talking about some real shit and trying to start a fucking revolution in black America they would be as paid and popular as they are? As long as they call each other nigga, add to the ongoing negative depiction of black woman and glorify violence, white records execs and their black counterparts will continue to give them the thumbs up and roll out the red carpet.

I don’t believe in censorship, everyone has a right to listen to what they want to and I do believe that parents should be responsible for their own kids, but rappers should excersice some personal responsibility and stop acting like big BABY’s when people call them out on their shucking and jiving - and yes that’s exactly what it is.

As for Rev. Al - NEXT! He and David Banner are both doing this for attention.

However I do feel as though older black people have a right to address the “hip hop genenration”, because if it weren’t for them you or other no person of color in America, would enjoy the freedoms you have today. These people STOOD THE FUCK UP! They got jailed and beat by police and bitten by dogs just to go to do things like go school. Oppressed people across the world were inspired by their actions. They left all it to us to carry the tourch and now we make millions call each other nigga and bitch! And it’s applauded.

Such a shame

I CO-SIGN FOR # 48 I AGREE WITH EVERY WORD

@98: You really said something!!!

I agree 100% with Mr. Banner. I felt like he spoke the 110% truth about the matter, and broke it down to a point where you have no way but to overstand what the reality is. I think he should be the offical black leader for us young african americans. Cause he anit afraid, while Al sharp and others are.

He was right when he said that they were disconnted from the youth of today. He was right when he asked lady O, “why she didn’t have any women on a panel about the use of b*tch and h*e in songs today”? He was rigth when we said every black family knows not to put your dirt out there with out letting your family know first. He was right on so many different levels.

I really take Mr. Banner ask someone not to play with, and that alone makes me agree with him even more. I think every on in the world needs to read his letter, you could learn a thing or two

Go David get’em baby!

@bsb1216

Bill and I had this talk yesterday with the Video that was posted. As I always say it starts at home. I co-sign on everything except the part about who’s watch what. Parents need to be more proactive with there kids. Be a better parent. Talk to your kids about issues, teach them what the American dream is. Teach them what love is. Better yourself. The mother and father are the two biggest role models in a childs like. You are going to go where you get to knowledge. If your parents arent giving it to you yhen you going to find it somewhere. And it is so hard for a parent to say I need take bcare of my child better than this, but it is easy to say Oh you on TV need to provide a better example. Even if you work two jobs your kid still need your time and your guidence. Make time.

#97 & 98, I couldn’t have said it any better. It starts with each one of us. It’s a personal matter. A personal choice. That’s where the change has to start. I know I’m doing my part and I know I’m not alone.

@ 102 cosign .

David made some good points in his letter. I didnt see Al anywhere near that Jersey schoolyard. There is no way in the world you can compare Al Sharpton to Martin, Malcolm, Rosa or any other Civil Rights leader who made an impact in the 50’s and 60’s.

Somebody in the government, has Al on the payroll and if he isn’t getting paid don’t count on him coming to your nearby hood to make a change. We have to start with our own children and pray for the best, we can’t sit around waiting on others.

Brandy, I’m glad you’ve gotten on with your life, its time for the victim’s wife to do the same. I’m not trying to be mean, but anger against Brandy is not gonna bring her husband back. BTW, Ms. Hdiodou you’d be better off talking to a counselor and not TMZ.

Everytime I see Ving, I picture him scrambling eggs naked in the kitchen. I know yall seen BabyBoy. lmao

I agree with David Banner 100%. How in the hell is Oprah gonna have a panel of guest to discuss the derogatory language of hip-hop when they aren’t the ones using it. That’s like her asking me to speak on “How does it feel to be rich” when I’m not. I love Oprah but she got some fucked up ways too. And as for Al Sharpton ass, he’s forever trying to speak on issues that shadows our communities but his wrenched ass is never putting in a 110% effort to solve them.

-For the Brandy situation, Ol’ boy needs to chill out. She is not about to be sitting at home everyday mourning the death of his wife. Its a very sad situation but damn what else can she really do but to show up to court and pay whatever fines they need for her to pay. I guess he wants her to schedule a specific time everyday where she dedicates it his wife, get real!!! Her life doesn’t stop just because his wife passed. She has a family of her own as well

The whole situation between these two is an embarrassment.

that dog is cross eyed!!!! that explains a lot.

David Banner (who ever you are) - go sit ya country ass down. NEXT!

@ 105 Jewel13, I think you got the victims confused. The husband didn’t die, it was his wife that died and he’s the one thats mourning and complaining.

They need to get off Brandy. It has been 8 months people. What does the Husband think that she is going to do, just sit in her house for eight months. I have been following this story and after the accident you did not see Brandy at all. She has just started coming out and I personally think it is a good thing for her to do. She should not beat herself up over this. People make bad judgements all the time on the road, and it is sad that someone died, but life has to move on. FACTS: She was not DRUNK, OR ON HER CELL PHONE. Her speed was 65, but they are looking into that now, to make sure that information is correct. The last thing that I want to point out is that I went to California not to long ago and drove in that traffic, everyone out there follows close to the car in front of them. If that lady slammed on brakes, I am sure Brandy tried just not in time, and the impact of a Range compared to that small Toyota, come on people give Brandy a break, she did not mean it and if she could take it back, this would not be a issue. My heart goes out to the family for losing a love one, BUT no amount of money will bring her back. I hope the judge awards the children some money, but that is it. The insurance policy can pay the rest of them, it is seriously all about money.

I completely agree with Banner. The problem that he will face is that “our leaders” do not associate his type face/demeanor with being intelligence so some will brush him off. The truth is that the black youth is in crisis. It saddens me tremendously to see how easily a life can be taken by one of our own…and over foolishness. In recent years, Sharpton has only shown up ( or so it appears) at functions that high light him, but he don’t really want it with some of the hiphop heads…there is too much intelligence and first hand experiences that they can talk about that he can’t relate to because when he made it out, he moved out. Its just like some of us trying to tell him that the civil rights era and the hardships that they experienced was just “play-play” and they took it too seriously. They don’t take us seriously because, unforrtunately, there are too many of us that only talk about bling, hoes, cars, etc. In our defense, although some of the so called rappers are just ignorant, there are many of them that choose to talk about those things to laugh so they wont cry. Its hard out here. There are not many people that haven’t gone through times in their lives that make people want to give up on them, but, what is someone had given up on Oprah when she was hoeing at a young age, what if people gave up on Jesse (the preacher) when he had his hoe on the side, and for me, Al has always been questionable. He was raised by James Brown, so you know he was invovled in some “suspect” shit. Basically, my point is that the black youth is hurting… they may not even know and in order to bring about change, the leaders have to be involved and not just spectate. We are not children, but a lot of our emotional growth was stunted because of sittuations that we faced as children. How could a child have stopped his dad from beating his mother or stopped his mother from doing drugs, or whatever the problem was. The youth are like children throwing a tantrum and the “leaders” need to force a “hug” on them even if they don’t want it to ease the pain.

@the real cookie

When You talk about older Black People, Who are you talking about. Yea there where some older black people who stood and were flowless, but where do you thing kids got the music and lyrics they are using today. They got them for the older generations. Look at some of the song that they are sampling. And remember The music from the 60’s, 70’s 80’s, 90’s recieve the same flack that these young miss guided souls are getting. I know ya dont think David Banner got raping about guns and drugs from Tupac. It goes way deeper. Thats why we need to rasie our kids, and stop letting Jay Z and TI dictate what go on in our house. And maybe we will have more Commons and Mos Defs

@36

Banner said that we (as in the rappers) are not always right. I think the point he is trying to make is that life experiences are what bring about the rap content and not vice versa. I understand you also in that not every black youth has the type of experiences that most rap speak about and in order to “fit in” they will venture out to try and find it to be “credible”

WAIT IS BANNER SERIOUS…..WHAT THE FUCK IS HE DOING FOR THE BLACK COMMUNITY BUT PUTTING OUT KOON ASS MUSIC..YES SHARPTON AND OTHER BLACK LEADERS OF TODAY ARE NO WHERE NEAR THE COMPARISON of leader from back in the day…but again who is he to through stones when he lives in a glass house…his new single is called “9mm” my point exactly ..

David Banner Interview:

07/30/07 - David Banner - Can’t tell me nothin

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David Banner’s seen a lot during his time in the game. Originally one-half of the duo Crooked Lettaz, Banner made his debut alongside fellow Mississippi rapper Kamikaze with 1999’s Grey Skies. Released through East Coast-based Penalty Records, the Southern fried record barely made a dent in SoundScan charts. The following year, Banner broke out on his own with Them Firewater Boyz, Vol. 1 (Big Face Records), which featured appearances by Ras Kass and N.O.R.E. and sold over 7,000 units independently. National prominence didn’t come until 2003, when the MC/producer released two solid albums—Mississippi: The Album and MTA2: Baptized in Dirty Water—on Universal Records. Containing hits like “Like a Pimp” and “Cadillac on 22s,” Mississippi easily earned a gold plaque, while MTA2 stalled out around 280,000 units. Going on to produce records for other artists like Nelly (“E.I. [Tipdrill Remix]”) and Trick Daddy (“Thug Holiday”), Banner returned to rap with 2005’s Certified. Spearheaded by the overly-commercial lead single “Play” and overshadowed by the impact of Hurricane Katrina, the album sold a paltry 327,000 units. Regardless of sales figures, Banner’s accomplishments speak for themselves: a slew of production credits, a budding acting career (last year he played opposite Samuel L. Jackson in Black Snake Moan), a critically acclaimed Cartoon Network series, That Crook’d ’Sipp, and humanitarian work through his charity organization, Heal The Hood. Now, the outspoken MC says he’s crafted one of the best albums of 2007 with Greatest Story Ever Told, which is due out this October through SRC/Universal. A month after the passing of his father, Zeno Crump Jr., Banner speaks with XXLMag.com about the high expectations for Greatest Story Ever Told, the continued impact of Hurricane Katrina on the South and reveals his controversial political stance.

What can we expect from your new album, Greatest Story Ever Told?
It’s funny because I actually got a “Negro Please” in XXL when I said that I was gonna have one of the greatest albums in recent history. I honestly think I got the best rap album in the last three years.

That’s a pretty bold statement.
I’m a humble guy. I come from Mississippi, so people have the tendency not to give me my just due. And I’m not taking that this year. I got money [but] I was never the type of person to display that. I always wanted to be the humble guy ’cause your parents tell you when you’re humble; those are the guys that win. That ain’t true. I just realized this year that I gotta play the game. I’ma show these cats I got more talent and money than most of these dudes. Some cats may out-rhyme me and there’s a couple of cats that maybe can do better beats, but I don’t think there’s a better package than me.

Do you anticipate any backlash for this new cocky outlook?
It’s crazy, because people criticized T.I. when he said he was the king. Now what’s everybody calling him? When Lil Wayne said he was the “best rapper alive since the best rapper retired,” everybody gave him flack. Now what’s everybody sayin’? It’s like God spoke the world into fruition and I’ma have to do the same. This is the Greatest Story Ever Told. I don’t think there’s any writer who can look me in the eyes as a man, not lie and say I don’t have one of the best albums in recent history. They can put my album up against any XXL [rated] album.

Why do you think your last album, Certified, didn’t sell as well as you would’ve liked?
Certified had more to do with [Hurricane] Katrina. People forget that Certified dropped the Tuesday Katrina happened. [Editor’s note: Hurricane Katrina actually made landfall in New Orleans on August 29, 2005. Certified wasn’t released until September 20, 2005.] What you also gotta understand is when I went out there, as much as I was on TV, did you ever hear me talk about Certified? I never did. That wasn’t important to me. I thought people were gonna come back and say, “Damn, David Banner stood up and did the right thing, we gonna support him.” People didn’t do that.

Does the general public understand the conditions Hurricane Katrina survivors are still living in?
They don’t, and to be real with you, they really don’t give a fuck. Katrina didn’t hit New Orleans, my nigga. The eye of Katrina hit Mississippi! It was the residuals from Katrina that New Orleans caught. What happened was, millions of dollars were allocated to the rebuilding of the levees in New Orleans. The local government in New Orleans only used half of that to patch up the levees. If the money that was allocated for the levees would’ve really been used to rebuild the levees, New Orleans would still be what it was before.

Is the government really trying to improve the Black experience in this country?
Of course not. We all know that. And what we have to understand is people in the government and their friends—the hierarchy—they make money from our pain. I’ll give you an example: in LA, there’s some type of elephants, I don’t know what they are, either albino or something. They’re spending like $16 million to build a sanctuary for two rare elephants, but they’ll only give $1 to 3 million to stop gang violence or give people in the inner city money so kids will have something to do. The truth is America wants to continuously keep our people at anarchy so it will hide the things that they’re doing [and] so we don’t have time to focus on the real matters at hand.

What can Black folks do to combat that?
As long as Black people are keeping other Black people under control, it’s [gonna stay] cool. I’m not a big fan of Martin Luther King, Jr., and you can print this. Martin Luther King was telling niggas to stay under control. We shall overcome, be good, hold hands and shit. Fuck that. They not singing when they coming to beat our ass. The Ku Klux Klan don’t come and sing. I’m not saying Martin Luther King was a bad man. All I’m saying is that they only fleshed out the era of his life when he was keeping Black people under control. The reason he probably died was because him and Malcolm X were starting to believe the same thing. Malcolm was believing all White people weren’t bad and Martin Luther King realized they definitely ain’t all good. And that’s when they both died. Any of our leaders out here who stand for anything and they ain’t dead, they fed. That’s my shit: if you ain’t dead, you’re a fed.

What about Al Sharpton and his campaign to censor hip-hop?
Fuck Al Sharpton. And I hate Jesse Jackson. Anybody that got something to say about it, they can come see me. All the things that Al Sharpton could be talking about, all the woes in the Black community… Dude, if you don’t agree with what we do, come talk to us. Then they get up on TV in front of all these other people and they crucify their own children so you can get in good with your investors and the rest of these White people. And I’m very disappointed in our parents and the fact that they did the same thing with rock ‘n’ roll [and] jazz. Anything that’s not church music—which once again keeps us under control—then it’s the devil’s music. That’s bullshit!

Saigon recently said in an interview with XXLMag.com that he wanted to talk to you about changing the title of your album, Greatest Story Ever Told, because it’s similar to his upcoming LP, The Greatest Story Never Told. What’s your take on the situation?
I don’t really give a shit. I’m not trippin’. He do his thing, I do my thing. I didn’t get my album title from him [and] he didn’t get his from me. We were just thinking on the same levels around the same time. I’m cool with dude, but it ain’t really too much to be done. My shit is on its way. And I don’t think our markets cross enough for it to really be that much of a problem. And with me, dawg, we have a tendency to fall into some shit and people want to make it something bigger than what it is. It ain’t that big of a deal. If dude wants to find me, he knows how to get at me.

@69

Banner’s intelligence is not what’s in question. The remainder of his letter signifies some degree of intelligence. How many times, in a closed situation, have you said some unintelligent sh*t out of emotional frustration? He made those comments behind closed doors during a conversation, not during the course of an interview

@ #98 THE REAL COOKIE - I get’s the chills. Tell it.

@ #62 SUCH MAGNIFICENCE - True scientifics.

@ #77 JASMINE - Class is in session.

@ #82 NOMOSOUL - I’m following you.

I think David had every right to speak his mind, and his opinions and feelings sre valid. I think it was mentioned earlier that he has a degree in English. If that’s so, then he should know better than to make an ignorant ass statement as the one the made. Why come off as an uneducated buffooon? In case some of you don’t know, most educated people don’t acknowledge, take serious, or even engage in debate with those who can’t seem to put together and articulate intelligent and cohesive talking points. Hence the rather humorous reply from Sharpton’s camp.

He totally negated the power of his statements by using unnecessary profanity. What if your kid came across those statements? Sure, maybe they’ve heard worse, but in my opinion, if you’re a high profile person, please put some thought into what your saying. Our kids are listening. Don’t let your stupid sounding statements become your legacy. Or release a statement through your damn publicist.

@114. GEE

PUMP YA BRAKE. David Banner is the only one bringing attn: to Miss. Everybody else is making movies and crying over LA after Katrina. He is one of the only artist from that area who put his career on hold to help out. And he didnt wait for no damn FEMA to start making a difference. He didn’t got to his other house and hang out. And while Beyonce, Usher, Spike Lee where in a area that was and has the abillty to counter money from tourist, He stayed in the Miss and by himself with the community got it the government assitance it need. Without the flash.

I’m cosigning #19 & #41 !!!!

@116 I believe it was an interview and on the record.

IM SO SICK AND TIRED OF PEOPLE ALWAYS PLACING BLAME ON HIP HOP RAPPERS FOR THE ACTIONS OF THEIR OWN DAMN KIDS. LIKE THEY SAY IN CHURCH THE DEVIL CANT MAKE YOU DO ANYTHING YOU CHOOSE TO MAKE THAT DESCISION. SAME WITH RAPPERS THEY DONT SAY AYE DO THIS AND MAKE ANYONE DO IT. YOU RAISE YOUR KIDS NOT THEM. KIDS BEEN ACTING A FOOL BEFORE RAPPING BEGAN SO TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOURSELVES. TAKE SO MUCH TIME CONCERNED ABOUT THE WORDS HOE BITCH AND NIGGA WHEN ITS WAY MORE DEPRESSING AND IMPORTANT THINGS GOING ON IN THE WORLD. IF ALL THE RAPPERS STOP RAPPING WE WILL STILL HAVE KIDS CUSSING AND SO ON. POINT BLANK RAISE YOUR OWN DAMN KIDS BECAUSE YOU THE ONE HAD THEM AND STOP TAKING THE EASY WAY OUT BY BLAMING HIP HOP FOR YOUR BAD PARENTING.

David Banner said that was not during a “formal interview”. However, he did essentially shoot himself in the foot because people read the headline and totally disregard any merit that the letter has. But, that’s how things work in a media saturated society.

I believe that the brother telling Sharpton to suck his rod was overboard and crass, but it was in a hip hop interview. Cats feel like they have to “keep it real” and talk reckless in those type of interviews. I’ll give the man the benefit of the doubt, for now, and guess that he was saying that for effect. Like Bill said though, I don’t understand why a man would tell another man to do that.

One thing I will say though is that David Banner did hit on many very cogent points in my opinion. I like the fact that he mentioned that these so-called “black leaders” have no ultimate goal. I like the fact that he is at least trying to address the root of these different issues and problems that black people have. The rap music is off as hell but it’s a result of the problems in the environment more than a cause of the problems in the community. The crack epidemic was at it’s peak in the 1980’s at a time when rappers were performing, what today, would be considered nursery rhymes, with no profanity.

Oprah needed and still needs to be addressed because she’s a bully, an opportunist, and a phony. She’s only interested in making herself look intelligent because she knows that she cannot strive against someone that’s informed. Like the man David Banner said, if you have an issue with “misogynist” lyrics, then have the alleged perpetrators on your show and drill them. Instead she brings two homosexual rap executives, an alleged clergyman of the Lord, and a “conscious rapper” on her show to take the place of the real offenders. She, her studio audience, and the “Spellman girls” lambasted them like they wrote the treatment for Nelly’s “Tip Drill” video. Then again maybe that was the point. Any male negroes will do for a televised sacrifice. Those brothers on her show looked so unprepared for a debate it wasn’t even funny, it was pathetic.

In order for people to get treated with the respect befitting them, they should conduct themselves with respect. Anyone can call themselves a “minister” or a “reverend”. Those are flattering titles that only mean anything if that person is ready to really serve and speak the truth. Al Sharptongue only seems to use his stature as a preacher as a means to an end to achieve some form of stardom or pseudo-celebrity in this society. He should talk about someone being gay because he’s a homosexual his damn self according to some former cabinet members in his organization, lol.

Many of our elders don’t know a damn thing and yet they still want the respect befitting an elder. I don’t give a damn how old you are. If you’re a wine head, you’re a winehead and that gets no respect. The point of respecting your elders is because they’re supposed to be a source of wisdom and knowledge. Nowadays if you ask them a question they get as confounded as the youth (Job 32:7-9). Unfortunately many of our elderly are not elders.

I wanted to find out more about David Banner’s accomplishments, and I was very impressed to find this:

David Banner ‘Heals The Hood’ With Benefit Concerts
Friday September 16th 2005,

In an effort to support the Katrina Relief efforts, Mississippi native David Banner continues to spear-head support from his industry friends and has organized them for a series of star studded Hip-Hop benefit concerts in support of the Mississippi survivors of Hurricane Katrina.

Banner’s “Heal The Hood? Hurricane Relief Concert will be held in Atlanta at Philips Arena tomorrow (September 17) and is supported by many of David Banner’s music industry friends and radio’s powerhouse companies.

“The tragedy of Katrina has affected all of us, considerably the worst natural disaster in US history. I feel that we all must unite to help our fellow citizens in their time of need,��? Banner said. “My vision for this concert is designed to meet the immediate needs of those who are underprivileged and have lost everything in areas that are looked over.”

The relief concert aims to generate proceeds to benefit Hurricane Katrina survivors in Mississippi.

Atlanta’s own Mayor Shirley Franklin stated, “Given the current crisis in the Gulf Coast, I am so pleased that so many of our local and regional urban radio stations have united with David Banner and a number of the nations acclaimed, Atlanta based celebrities to produce a benefit concert that will assist thousands of evacuees in Atlanta and many of the smaller cities that were devastated by Katrina.”

Hosted by Lil’ Jon, David Banner will be performing along with his celebrity friends including Nelly, T.I., 8Ball and MJG, Ali & Big Gipp, Boyz N Da Hood, Chopper and 112 with many more artists to be added.

Banner has also teamed up with Radio One, Clear Channel, Cumulus Media, Cox Radio and Infinity Broadcasting to volunteer efforts to solidify the concert’s success.

“Radio One is honored that David asked us to be a part of the ‘Heal the Hood,’��? states Marsha Meadows, Vice President of Marketing for Radio One. “David Banner is a dear friend to Radio One, we believe in him and his efforts. When Hurricane Katrina struck, we knew that he would be one of the first Hip-Hop artists to step up to help Hurricane Katrina victims because he is from Mississippi.��?

Revenue generated and items collected from the “Heal the Hood” Hurricane Relief Concert will be donated to the hardest-hit states that need a great deal of aid, including communities in southern Mississippi, southern Alabama, and New Orleans.

In related news, Banner will also be taking part in another Hurricane Katrina relief concert being held in New York’s Time Square on September 19.

Many of Hip-Hop’s elite has been confirmed to perform at the benefit concert scheduled for September 19 at B.B. King’s Blues Club including Memphis Bleek, Q-Tip, The Beatnuts, Styles P, The Last Poets and the X-Ecutioners.

For more information on concert show times or to make donations through the Heal the Hood Foundation, log on to http://www.healthehood.com for details.

David Banner’s highly anticipated album Certified hits stores on September 20.

….So David Banner appears to be a good brother who is out trying to improve and help his community.

If we could just get him to stop cussing out folks, he’ll be better off.

wow judah tell us how you really feel

# 98 was ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ON!!!!!!!!

Just a random question for some of you on this board……..How many black men has Oprah put through Morehouse College? How much has she contributed to the United Negro College Fund since the 80’s? How much of her own personal money did she contribute to the victims of Hurricane Katrina?

Yes, Oprah, Al and Jesse are not perfect but they have contributed more to the black community than many of us realize. They were helping the black community before many of us were born and we need to respect that.

Besides, what exactly are they asking those in the Hip Hop Community to do? Think about it. They are simply asking to clean up the lyrics and the images they are projecting to not only the youth but to the world. They aren’t asking rappers to give up their first born child or anything crazy like that. Is what they are asking really all that unreasonable?

In the so-called beef between Banner and Sharpton, there is truth on both sides. But the bottom line is that the black community has no direction. We constantly attack each other instead of focusing on the root cause of our problems (racism in America) which has embedded a hate for ourselves in the souls of the vast majority of black Americans in this country. Where is the love?? Banner is right in saying youth can only speak on what they have learned. This is the ignorance we’ve been taught but we are making sure that ignorance prevails when we encourage these behaviors through music. Kids are taking these lyrics and rolling with them. I saw two young girls in a store that were openly together as a couple. Being the concerned young woman I am, I asked how do you know at such a young age that you want to date women. They answered saying TI’s song says “my girl has a girlfriend” boys like girls with girlfriends. I was blown away and TI is one of my favorite rappers. So whether the artists care or not, this music is having a negative affect on the behaviors of our youth. And believe it or not this is exactly what racists White Americans want. They have mastered a system where we openly kill ourselves and promote it via Hip Hop. There is a reason the artists with more positive approaches to music don’t make it and don’t think it’s because we don’t want to hear that music, but whether the media outlets don’t play it because they don’t want us to think of alternatives to life and they don’t want us to recognize out greatness outside of entertainment.

We cannot take away from the things that Sharpton has done. Sharpton has spoke out about many injustices against blacks. I just challenge artists to think about more that just money, it’s like people will sell their soul to the devil for a dollar. Or better yet if they feel that’s the only way to get to the top, at least reach out and try to change some things once in the shot light. It’s time for everyone to take accountability for our actions and for the future of black America. We are dying at extreme rates and our culture is being diluted. STOP THE BEEFS…LET’S WORK TOGETHER.

Google the Jena 6 Trail. Sign the petition. Make a difference!! Power to the People!!!

They need to leave Brandy the hell alone!! The accident happened about 8months ago…sorry he lost his wife (if that who he claims her to be)…but life goes on…Brandy can’t stay in doors all her life…hell…I bet he’s out there getting some too…cause I don’t think since he lost his wife he’s been all celibate!

@ 127 Yes it’s very unreasonable . How can you tell someone how to express themselves? Give me a break with hip-hop’s influence on the youth . I have a seven yr old son , he can’t tell you anything about music or any form of bling . Parent need to rasie their damn children and stop blaming music and television for all of their fuck -ups! It’s getting old !

BAMBAM said:

I think David had every right to speak his mind, and his opinions and feelings sre valid. I think it was mentioned earlier that he has a degree in English. If that’s so, then he should know better than to make an ignorant ass statement as the one the made. Why come off as an uneducated buffooon? In case some of you don’t know, most educated people don’t acknowledge, take serious, or even engage in debate with those who can’t seem to put together and articulate intelligent and cohesive talking points. Hence the rather humorous reply from Sharpton’s camp.

He totally negated the power of his statements by using unnecessary profanity. What if your kid came across those statements? Sure, maybe they’ve heard worse, but in my opinion, if you’re a high profile person, please put some thought into what your saying. Our kids are listening. Don’t let your stupid sounding statements become your legacy. Or release a statement through your damn publicist.

Bill Said:

Bam Bam, I agree with you 103%

Good Communication skills are so Important.

People can’t focus on this Brother’s Accomplishments because of the words that comes out of his mouth, and the records he has made.

He’s a serious and a very emotional brother who has a lot going for him.

If he could just polish his presentation skills he could get so much more accomplished.

He could possibly get himself elected to public office
But not
If he continues telling our black leaders to go F_ck themselves or to suck his D_ck…

That’s not cool.
It’s very disrespectful.

Do you see Jesse Jackson telling President Bush to Kiss his Black Ass ?

You just don’t speak to leaders that way.

Would you tell you boss to suck your D_ck ?

Peace

@ velvetj

I’m not sure what your point is. David Banner is not talking about money. Thats not even a issue. Thats like a child only knowing their parent was home because they see the lunch money on table. When you get out front and you say “I am the example”. The you have to BE the EXAMPLE. You can’t wage war on issue that have nothing to do with the people you are providing the example for.

@ Ja

Your right, not everyone in the civil rights generation was perfect nor was their music, but to compare even the raunchiest music from that generation to what you here today is like night and day. I agree with some of what David Banner says, but I can’t believe how he’s playing the victim. Rappers have the power to influence people. If they didin’t they wouldn’t be whining aobut the multimillion dollar endorsement deals they’ve lost. So if you have the power to influence people and you see there are problems in your community, some of which you are only adding to, glorifying and profiting from and you want to do something about it, why are you writing al sharpton or any other older black people for help? If you want to make change, take responsibility. That’s what we should each do as individuals and that’s what the rappers who claim they want see change should do as well. It’s just that simple.

Also when David Banner says “Don’t just go running off to the media to air the dirty laundry of the family and not expect us to fight back in some kind of way. ”

Newsflash David Banner!!! Everybody else in the world already knows black people have no respect for each other. Oprah didn’t air out any dirtly laundry. Who exactly do you think are buying these records? Do you think only black people listen to hip hop? And who cares what other people think? I think these rappers are only motivated by the fact that it is becoming more difficult for them to get endorsements and stay mainstream as black people began to question hip hop. And that’s a shame because if they would have used some personal responsibilty and addressed this themselves from the start, they would have the everyone and their mama (who don’t listen to hip hop in the first place) chiming in on what they should do.

Lastly, I’m tired of these young rappers acting like their the only people in the WORLD who have had it rough. Most people from our parents generation didn’t have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of when they grew up. Half of these rappers never went to bed hungry a day in their life or served a day in prison. Proboly got atari’s every christmas and 8 ball jackets for the birthday’s. Growing up in th hood doesn’t make you any less of a person. Plenty of amazing people have come out of the hood. Having pride in yourself, your people and your community comes from within. I’m sure Oprah grew up poorer that all of these dudes.

@118…what the hell are you talking about ..who cares where the hell he reps..im talking about the state of the black community..which he does not contribute to only hurts with his bullshit ass music..it sounds like you are a little bitter towards n.o..and what the hell are you talking about taking a break from his career WHAT CAREER..man please this is just publicity for his new wack ass album coming out…dont talk about it be about it…

In Sharpton’s defense he was at the Jena 6, he did his radio show from there, he has done several radio shows about the horrible injustice and he then moved on to the New Orleans to bring light to what continue’s to go on down there. They are doing a three day summit trying to get our people back home. I have never been an Al Sharpton supporter but I am able to recognize the fact that he is trying. But none of the news and entertainment outlets are taking notice of any of these things so most people think he is just trying to “ban” the rappers which is not the case by the way.

I co-sign with #98. I’m tired of rappers putting out music that glorifies violence and that degrades women. Then when the rappers get criticized for it they start blaming everyone and everything else instead of taking responsibility for their own actions.

@133 THANK YOU I COULDNT HAVE SAID IT BETTER

#130 asking rappers to stop disrespecting women, disrespecting black people, and glamourizing negative behavior is unreasonable? If you think thi is as simple as asking someone to stop expressing themselves, then we are on different plains.

And poster # 130 for every 7 year old son you have that doesn’t know anything about music or bling, I can point out 10 that do. It would be GREAT if parents took more responsibility and not let their kids be influenced by music, tv, sports stars, etc., but the REALITY is kids are influenced by those things, and since we know that those in the positions that influence need to be a bit more responsible.

Anyone who does not see how the negative aspects of Hip Hop has effected the black community, should open their eyes a bit further.

*FRUSTRATED* DAMN, I WANNA READ WHAT BILL & JUDAH WROTE BUT I GOTTA TAKE CALLS AT WORK, LOL.

both of them are losers!!! david banner he sounds familiar but i understand his opinion but sucking his dick made him look like what they criticize these rappers for being..

the widower you have to understand where hes coming from HIS WIFE DIED yeah Brandy should be living her life but hes will not get over it so easy his wife will never be here again..i do agree being mad @ brandy doesnt do anything but he should understand that he is angry

Judah I am in agreement with you 100%. Your statement was on point. Some elderes do not behave like elders but yet demand that respect. I don’t care for Sharrpton and applaud David Banner. I have always respected David Banner from the day he came on the scene. He is a DOER and backs up what he says about uplifting the black commnunity and helping the children.
Bill, it’s amazing how you first wanted to “cast the first stone” at Banner but later upon further research of who he is as a person decided to switch gears.
Al Sharpton is an oppurtunist and is only after his own exaltation.

the real cookie said:

@ Ja

Your right, not everyone in the civil rights generation was perfect nor was their music, but to compare even the raunchiest music from that generation to what you here today is like night and day. I agree with some of what David Banner says, but I can’t believe how he’s playing the victim. Rappers have the power to influence people. If they didin’t they wouldn’t be whining aobut the multimillion dollar endorsement deals they’ve lost. So if you have the power to influence people and you see there are problems in your community, some of which you are only adding to, glorifying and profiting from and you want to do something about it, why are you writing al sharpton or any other older black people for help? If you want to make change, take responsibility. That’s what we should each do as individuals and that’s what the rappers who claim they want see change should do as well. It’s just that simple.

Bill Said:

This is so true.

David Banner and the rest of the Rap Community has the resources to rebuild N.O and any other city/state affected by Hurricane Katrina.

Why are they so concerned about What is Rev. Al Sharpton or What Rev. Jesse Jackson is doing for them.

Rev Sharpton & Rev Jackson are NOT elected officials.
the MOST they can do is make a speech.

If you want REAL action, one has to appeal to their elected officials

Mayor C. Ray Nagin for instance is doing a hell of a job getting the goverment to clean up New Orleans.

What about the elected officical from the other area affected by Hurricane Katrina
What are they doing.

Rev Sharpton & Rev Jackson are person that make great speeches.

They don’t have the resources nor the power to rebuild cities & communities.

OK YALL GIVE DAVID A BREAK,

yOU DIDN’T LIKE THE WAY HE SAID, YOU DON’T LIKE THE WORDS OF HIS SONGS. BUT YOU HAVE TO ADMIT HE IS SPEAKING THE TRUTH. THEY NEED TO STOP PLACING THEMSELVES IN THE FOREFRONT. THEY NEED TO STOP LOBBYING THEIR ISSUES, THEIR ENTERTAINMENT. WHO MADE AL SHARPTON A LEADER. MAYBE THE PUBLIC SPEAKER FOR bEYONCE AND FEMALE BASKETBALL PLAYER, BUT THE LEADER OF BLACK PEOPLE PLEASE. aFTER DR KING DIED JESSIE SWITCHED SIDE. HE JUST WANTS BILLY GRAHAM’ SON JOB. AND JESSIE AND AL HAVE BOTH SAID THINKS ABOUT GEORGE BUSH( WHO LAST TIME I CHECK WAS ELECTED TO BE THE REAL LEADER OF AMERICA) THAT WHERE WORST THEN TELLING SOMEONE TO DO THAT. NO ONE SAID ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY WERE TAKING A STAND(ON WHAT I DONT KNOW) BUT I GUESS THATS OK.

@ 138 So just b/c we live in a society full of lazy parents ,it’s okay to blame entertainer’s and atheletes for them not instilling any values in their children ?

141.

Lain
Friday, August 17, 2007
Judah I am in agreement with you 100%. Your statement was on point. Some elderes do not behave like elders but yet demand that respect. I don’t care for Sharrpton and applaud David Banner. I have always respected David Banner from the day he came on the scene. He is a DOER and backs up what he says about uplifting the black commnunity and helping the children.
Bill, it’s amazing how you first wanted to “cast the first stone” at Banner but later upon further research of who he is as a person decided to switch gears.
Al Sharpton is an oppurtunist and is only after his own exaltation.

Bill Said:
I NEVER said I had a problem with David Banner.
I have a Problem with what he SAID….

He’s a human being, and he made a mistake.
He get’s a pass….

# 132, I actually was not only talking about money either. Do you remember what Oprah did after the L.A. riots? Did she have to go to a Georgia prison 2 years ago and do a entire show on the young black man who was railroaded after his white sex partner changed her story and they placed him in jail? (I forgot his name. Not Jenarlo Smith but the young man who was released a couple of years ago in Georgia. She is also paying for his education). My point is, it is a falacy that Oprah, Al, Jesse, etc., have done nothing for the black community.

#144 of course it is not only the rappers fault. Parents are just as much to blame. My problem is many of these rappers, sports stars, etc., do not want to take any responsibility for the power they have. They influence dance, speech, fashion, attitudes, etc., and they don’t seem to believe they do.

IMO, placing the entire blame on a single thing is irresponsible and unfair because no single thing is the reason. But the VERY FIRST TIME Oprah Winfery walked into Nelson Mandela’s house she was greeted as a n*gga, because his security team thought that is the way Black Americans like to be greeted. Many may disagree with me but I believe the negative aspects of Hip Hop had a hand in why those South Africans believed that. The world see’s our videos, and hear our music and it influences them. And again, many rappers will argue that it does not so they continue to “keep it real” by continuing to disrespect black women, place thug life on a pedestal, etc. It’s time for a change. That is all the “leaders” are asking. Young folks will listen to a rapper before Oprah or Jesse Jackson, so why not use that power to help them as well as entertain them?

the real cookie said:

@ Ja

Your right, not everyone in the civil rights generation was perfect nor was their music, but to compare even the raunchiest music from that generation to what you here today is like night and day. I agree with some of what David Banner says, but I can’t believe how he’s playing the victim. Rappers have the power to influence people. If they didin’t they wouldn’t be whining aobut the multimillion dollar endorsement deals they’ve lost. So if you have the power to influence people and you see there are problems in your community, some of which you are only adding to, glorifying and profiting from and you want to do something about it, why are you writing al sharpton or any other older black people for help? If you want to make change, take responsibility. That’s what we should each do as individuals and that’s what the rappers who claim they want see change should do as well. It’s just that simple.

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Like I said before we have heard all this music before, nothing he is saying is new. We cant be shocked now. Prince was sing about two women way before these kids were born. Damn near everyone was singing about drugs in the 70’s, so no it’s not different are more graph you are just old and more mindful of what you hear. We been singing about these lyrics. I dont see David banner as playing the victim. They are attacking his livelyhood. This is how he feeds his family. And the people that are calling Al and Jessie are the people that cant speak for themselves ( so they think ) there cant be a community without famliy units, that is what a community is. Its like a fence. If a part of the fence is broke wha are you keeping out. Famlies are broke and have been broke for along time. Good luck if you think that lyrics are going to change that. Spend that energy helping these young parents that are letting Jay Z run the house. Who’s buying these CD, and concert tickets. The parent. Who’s allowing the rapper to have power, the parents. TI I said” I can only rap on my records, I can’t hear nothing back. ” But the parent are right there dance and loving it with they kids. Thats the problem. thats who Al and Jessie and Oprah need to address, the parents. The only person that came close to that was Farakon. And they where all agianst him. And maybe they think that Entertainment is suppose to rasie you because Oprah Jessie and Al were all raise by entertainment. You have to go to the begaining, White Amreica Said rap lyrics were killing the youth, the black leader co-sign. they attacked him first

19.
RKJville3000
Friday, August 17, 2007
Until we band together and leave behind the “Generation X” label can we truly overcome….and keep Kim Kardashian away from black men!!! LOL….

DENISE SAID: 80′S BABIES ARE ACTUALLY GENERATION Y.

I’m sorry but I agree that Brandy must go on with her life, but come on yall let’s be real….yall know damn well if that was your relative that was killed in that accident and you see the person that caused it having a gay old time everytime she was pictured - you know your skin would be boiling too!!!! DON’T FRONT!!!

@ velvetj

Take the power away. I bet you money Michael Jackson will not have another hit records. Why, parents took that power away. Luke is not popular anymore, Why parents took that power away. The easy answer is to say “turn the page because we dont all know the words on this one”. Who are we going to blame after rap. I dont think my son is going to be Gay Because Tonex sings about being Gay and its gospel music. But it’s ok once we run out of excuess we’ll bring it back. We parent have more power than we give ourselves credit for.

David Banner, I think is a little in over his head making such disrespectful statements to Rev. Al Sharpton. I mean he has valid points, & makes some since in what he is saying, however to tell the Revernd to S**K his D**K, is very unprofessional & uncalled for. Sure he has a right to his opinion & to say what he wants but I mean with all due respect Rev. Al has his “faults” & “wrongs”, but Rev. Al has supported Black folks since way back when & stood up for the black communities for a very long time, he doesn’t have “OPRAH MONEY” but he has done alot more for the lower class communities than OPRAH has in my opinion. Just him “speaking out” & giving blacks a voice in these poor neighborhoods is more than any amount of money the others can put out. He (David Banner) doing all that mouthing off I hope he is doing something himself for the inner city-youth.

As for BRANDY, I can feel where the “WIDOWER” is coming from. My twin brother was killed in a motor vehicle crash at the hands of his own Frat brother (back in 2000). And when my best friend went with her sorority sisters to a Greek Party one weekend (not even 2 weeks after the dude drove the van into a tree killing my brother) she told me she saw my twin brothers Frat brother laughing, partying, & having a good time at the party. He even tried to talk to her at the party, she said she told him to get away from her & gave him the most disgusting look ever. None of my friends & family (me included) could not grasp “HOW”? we over here ripped apart over the loss of my twin…& the dude that was driving the van is off somewhere laughing & shit…like “dude…you just lost your Frat brother…line brother & you laughing? WTF. Here this man misses his WIFE deeply, & is still greiving her loss & the B***H that caused her to DIE is out laughing & partying. I would be pissed & mad as hell too!! I feel this man whole heartedly, I know his pain & where he is coming from (having lost someone very, very, close to me as well)

What the hell is going on in Brandy’s big head man? Had I been in her shoes I’d be sending that man gifts, & apologies galore, flowers, I’d visit him to express my sympathy, since nothing will bring her back. I would let him know I been going to counseling (which I will need after accidently killing a person). But noooo she “PARTYING”…wow BRANDY…that must be very therepeutic for the mind.(both middle fingers up @ brandy)

Ving Rhames: now this is a man with a heart..he lost a dear friend because one of his dogs flipped out on the guy. He is really a sincere person & is broken up over this unfortunate incident. (I love me some Ving Rhames, his acting is great).

@ velvetj

I’m sorry I didnt see you at 146. First off he had sex with a minor. Thats why he went to jail. That is my point teach your little boys respect a female no matter what. A minor can’t concent to oral sex. That was the law. instead of taking a plea he wanted to fight so according to the law voted on by the people of his county he recieved a lawful treatment. Now at the time in this area in GA STDs amoung youth was out of control. No perantal guidence. You can buy Jordans but not condoms. Thats being real. It doesnt matter if he didnt know what the law was what man who respects himself will have three other men with him doing this act to a child. this could have been his little sister. But his parents never taught respect is as simple as saying no. Now once the laws were changed they have let him out. But as a parent of a girl and a boy I understand the DA. Now if Oparh want to give him her money hey do you. But by no means was he railroaded he is not the victim. How did that help the community? Oprah helps people I get but she is not by far a community leader, because she can afford to send someone to college. [parents do that all the time

I understand him still mourning the lost of his wife. He planned on being with her for the rest of her life. At the same time he is being somewhat selfish. I mean the women has 6 lawsuits lined up against her what does he want her to do sit home depressed. Hell I would be out too and it’s been months since the accident was she suppose to take a year in seclusion.

Al Sharpton doesn’t lead shit, but his paycheck. He doesn’t speak for black America. Shit, he’s not even relevant in the lives of the black youth. He’s a publicity whore, right up there with Paris and Lindsey. The only difference is they choose to get it by shaking their ass at clubs and getting caught up by the police while he likes to sensationalize issues in the black community in exchange for a cover shot. Sit down NAACP. Sit down Al Sharpton. And sit down any other so called “Black Activist” or “Organization” that hasn’t done shit since the end of the Civil Rights Movement.

In response to the widower. Shut that shit up.
People die everyday in car accidents.
You’re lucky. You’re going to get a check for some shit that was clearly an accident.
You’re better off than most.

If David Banner is so intelligentwhy did he release that ignorant rant in the first place?
I also cosign with #35. Way to go Bill!!!!

@Bill

Bill I love and you, have goods points and you can pick out the problems, but

Mayor C. Ray doing anything good is funny to me. I from Texas and I was in Houston when the storm hit. This is what happen when you vote for a skin color ( obama pay attn:) He the Mayor and didn’t have an evacution plan for his city ( which every city is suppose to have) Did not have leeves inspected which should have been first on his list. Hello Your City IS Under Water. “Chocolate City”, that whole press comfrence was just dumb. And what everyone fell to remember They WERE TOLD TO LEAVE NO days before the storm hit. Some of them left because the News Stations in Houston show them in the club getting in at half price. Yes on the news. The other group of people that stayed behind said that didn’t have a ride. Mayor C. Ray Nagin say that was FEMA’s fault. Which in turn became Bushes fault. Now if he is so qualified way dosen’t he know that before =Nagin, after=FEMA,

first of all brandy can go on wiff her life thats all good and dandy…. but the fact of the matter is that she is sitting at a poker table like she tryna gamble all the money away and partying is fine also but poleeeeeeze by all means look a lil decent brandy all that dam grinning like a chest cat….. wiff all dat dam grease is pissing me off let alone that family….. and david banner im surprised at him he was the only decent rapper left but now he is an asshole for that comment … he could have said something diffrent to the rev most men that say suck my dick prolly sucked one them self lolololol…. ( just joking )

Okay lets put it like this, I see alot of people writing that ..
“they feel the “WIDOWERS” pain, & “feel sorry for him” & are on here saying “he needs to gert over it already & move on” but you know what…that is so much easier said than done…

until you lose someon “extremely” close to you..then it will a totally different story! Like I said in my previous post..I lost someone close & dear to me “My twin brother” (my blood)… & that is something you never really get over for the rest of your life…yes it gets better with time but it will always be a reality & fact remains that person will never come back to life. Until you go through that type of “LOSS”…You really can’t relate…not unless you have “TRULY” been in this mans shoes & have lost someone extremely close to you as this guy did.

And as far as BRANDY “staying in seclusion” “hiding” after the accident was over…for 8 months or “whatecer” that was primarily because of her “CELEBRITY STATUS”, she knew cameras & the “PAPS” would be all over her ass like crazy glue, I think that is why she kept her distance for the most part. If she had lost RAY J, her mom, or pops at the hands of someone else…then it would have been alot different on her end.Now, its very easy for BRANDY, hell–it wasn’t her “friends or Relatives” killed…she doesn’t even know these people that are mad at her. They lost their loved one at the hands of BRANDY.

When you are in the mans (WIDOWER) shoes (or like in my case) You just will “never” grasp how the next individual can just go on with their life..its “inconceivable” to the “mind” of a person who has lost someone that close to them (I dont think it has anything to do with money) its natural to THINK the way that he is THINKING (trust me I know..I been there).

You have to GO THROUGH IT..to FULLY understand where this dude is coming from with his frame of thinking.

Oh Ja, I see where you are coming from. We are in two totally different places. Let me guess, you would also say Rosa Parks should have been sent to prison for 20 years because she technically broke the law, therefor making her a criminal. My experience in life has shown me, things aren’t always in black and white. He was 16 she was 15. Because she was a minor, I’m sure that had something to do with her delayed objection to the sex, particularly when her admitted racist father found out she had sex with a black boy. Look up the evidence of the case.

And if you are going to sit in front of Oprah and cry for half an hour and deny you consented, AT THE VERY LEAST let one, possibly even two tears fall. The brotha was railroaded and I stick to that. Thank God the Georgia court system recognized it and released him.

Anyway, Hip Hop has no responsibility in this whole thing correct? But as responsible adults, since we KNOW many parents aren’t doing their jobs, and you KNOW who your audience is and who your music and videos are marketed to, why NOT take more responsibility. At this point, many of these rappers are just using parents as a scapegoat to their irresponsible behavior. And will boldly say, that anyone who does not believe the negative aspects of Hip Hop have impacted the black community is a fool.

One more thing. Ja, you believe Michael Jackson and Luke have not had hits because parents stop giving kids money to buy their records? Yeah, you do see the world in black in white. Naw bruh, it’s not simply because of that (rolling my eyes and shaking my head).

Also, who is saying if you hear a song by Tonex about being gay, your son is going to turn gay (which is silly in of itself). That is not how things work. Hearing or seeing something one time for the most part doesn’t have an effect on you. It’s a process of time. Repitition, repitition, repitition. That’s the whole point of commercials. To think you cannot see women portrayed in a certain way, constantly hear music about thug life, etc., over a period of years and it not affect how you begin to see the world, is just not reality.

The world many times is bigger than just our own personal space. How I conduct myself in a boardroom full of white people, affects all of black people. I know that, and I thank God I know that. The images some in the Hip Hop community affects us all whether they realize it or not.

Y’all are a trip. Y’all need to quit focusing on what David Banner said the first time which was during a private call. And probably said in the heat of the moment. Y’all need to look at his second statement. And see what he is trying to say.

Focus on the issues.

And Al Sharpton is not my leader. I didn’t choose him. I speak up, make changes, mentor youth, etc. But Al doesn’t speak to me. I listen to rap. I see what’s going on in my hood and around the world.

I agree with what David is saying. Sometimes you have to look beyond the surface to get to the man. Why didn’t Oprah have Nelly on the show? Why didn’t she ask the Spellman Women why they protested during what was supposed to be a bone marrow drive? Something that could have saved a lot of lives, even Nelly’s sister Jackie who died from Leukemia.

If you don’t like the music, then turn it off. There’s freedom of speech in this country, to try and ban or prohibt someone’s speech is censorship. You may not agree with what is being said, but you don’t have to listen. Or you can speak up and voice your own opinion on the matter.

My question is this - Why is everyone protesting the music? But not mentioning the tv shows, movies or books that perpetuate the negative stereotypes and ghetto/coon mentality? Some of the top selling books to the youth, younger generation and adults is the ghetto fiction, street lip or hip hop fiction - however it’s labeled. Which perpetuates the gangsta, ghetto, thug, drugdealing mentality and stereotypes. And to say black people don’t read is another erroneous stereotype. Has anyone heard of the African American Literary Awards Show?

Oh and on Brandy - can’t the woman get a break. She’s remorseful, I’m sure but she shouldn’t have to go hide in a box or join a nunnery.

And on Ving - I love the man. But I think he waited to long to address the incident. The dogs may have not been the killer but they were an indirect cause. I believe they said the man died from a heart attack, which could have been brought on by the dog attack.

I wholeheartedly support David Banner. While I wish he would have handled his initial response with the eloquence that was is this letter I realize when people are fed up they sometimes let their emotions get the better of them. In the words of Janet Jackson “What have you done for me lately?” Rather than mobilie work and together with our youth the majority of our black “leaders” continue to berate us and blame the hip hop generation for all of problems in Black America. Funny a year or two ago our “leaders” were jumping down Bill Cosby’s throat for airing our “dirty” laundry and now they are doing exactly that . Hypocritical don’t you think? Bill gives back to the community tirelessly WITHOUT the cameras or morning talkshows presence. Instead of the NAACP having a funeral for the N word maybe they should take the time to reach out to the youth and find out what is at the core of the N word mentality some of us are still carrying around.

@velvetj

Please read the this you are not in the know. This is all about parental guidence. No

way my little girl will be allow in a motel (Parents) This is all parents. I see rap lyrics

in that but I also see a 15yr little girl know to all parties to be 15, with out parental

guidence. This young man hos was not told to respect himself. His body is just as

much as a Temple as the girls. But I guess your mind set is as long as rapper are

telling her to do this her parents cant say nothing. If he was 18 ( which he was

turning that year ) would it piss you out then. That his mother ( matters if she was a

single parent) didn;t give him the treat people like you want to be treated speech. It

burns me that people are raising sons like this. And Yes Rose when to jail for a

nobel cause, this has nothing to do with this and cant even be compared

. Hell he was cry because he was in jail. Jail is hard, no matter how many people

like going there.

They crime is that matters if this girl was white or black more parents arent out

protesting that things are going on like this

and are cheering this young man off because he reads well and plays sports. yea

thats the only reason Oprah was there. If it would have been ray ray from bankhead

on the block they wouldn’t be able to find O

Just like The Women who went to jail before Rosa Parks who was bailed out of jail

by the NCAAP because she had two kids out of wedlock. And by the way read your

history, The BUS RIDE was stage to prove a point.

The conviction was based on an amateur video tape showing Wilson engaging in sex with a 17-year-old girl during a private party, and later being offered and receiving oral sex from a 15-year-old girl. The video shows the 17-year-old girl on the bathroom floor, then later having sex with Wilson. She appeared sleepy or intoxicated during the sex act but did not ask Wilson to stop. Waking up naked and disoriented the next morning, she claimed to have been raped. Investigating the alleged rape, police later found condoms and evidence of drinking, as well as the video camera, in the motel room used for the party.

A jury acquitted Wilson of raping the older girl, but convicted him of aggravated child molestation against the 15-year-old. The “aggravated” nature of the charge refers to fellatio (oral sex) rather than a mere “immoral or indecent act.” Had the two teenagers had intercourse without oral sex, Wilson would have been charged with a misdemeanor, punishable up to 12-months, with no sex offender status, instead of the mandatory 10-year minimum term that the judge gave him

OK HE TOLD THE GUY TO SUCK HIS PETER LOL SORRY THATS FUNNY TO ME. BUT LET GO ON. IN THE HEAT OF ANGER WE ALL SAY FOUL CRAP, NOT SAYING IT WAS RIGHT BUT THATS HUMAN NATURE. GET OVER IT BECAUSE OTHER THAN THAT EVERYTHING HE SAID MADE PERFECTLY GOOD SINCE IF ONLY HE DIDNT MAKE THE PETER SUCKING COMMENT LOL, SORRY AGAIN. AND IM TIRED OF THE “OH THEIR DISRESPECTN US FEMALES” IF YOU KNOW YOUR NOT A HOE NOR A BITCH YOU SHOULDNT TAKE OFFENSE. WHEN THEY SAY IT THAT MUST HITS A SOFT SPOT IF YOU FEEL THAT PEOPLE YOU NEVER MET ARE SPEAKING PERSONALLY OUT TO YOU IN THEY LYRICS WHEN THEY SAY BITCH OR HOE. GET A REALITY GRIP THATS ALL IM SAYING.

@velvetj

What is “Conduct Myself” mean. Do you act differently around white people than

black people. if so were did you learn that, and why do you do that. And yes I do

think parents stoped luke from making money and making music like he was . he is

banned in at least 10 state. Now you tell me what group of kids when dawn the the

concert hall and say ” luke we

dont want to hear you music anymore) yea right. And yea Tonex is openly gay. He

addresses this in some of the songs he sings, which are all gospel. Now you can’t

just pick what type of music has influences. Now remember we, (black people) had

the same issue with Kirk Franklin. He was supposely making the youth disrespect

God. When will the blaming stop.

David Banner looks bangable in this pic… never seen him without the beard. Upgrade.

WOW @ this post

But well said #36….it always baffled me how David Banner could appear to be such an intellect one minute, then come out with a song like ”Play” the next… he may not think so but hiphop music (music in general) does affect ppl (especially impressionable youth)

Btw, I never understood why a man would tell another man to suck his….either, it doesnt sound right at all!

Smh…yes it was a tragedy, but what does he expect Brandy to do? The accident happened last December & we are JUST now seeing pics of her partying recently…

Bout time Ving said sumthin!

Regarding Brandy… I agree with #10…totally, that is very true.

Regarding the whole David Banner & Al Sharpton issue… I agree with #32…. I also work at a high school with at-risk teens…so I do understand where Al Sharpton is coming from. Each day I talk to teens (young men) who only dream of being rappers, music producers, football or basketball players…yep, thats it!! I often ask them what (else) do they want to be? What else is important to them? And after talking to them, they honestly feel that being a doctor, lawyer, judge, policeman, professor, etc is too hard. And no one at home is telling them to strive for much else. Some, not all…youth today would prefer that someone (gives) them a job…dam hard work…or they feel as though if they play a sport well….that will be their ticket to a great life forever, dam making the grades or getting a degree to fall back on. So the motivation process with the youth of today cant just come from one direction…or one source, others need to get on board as well. It would be great if David & Al could set aside or talk out there differences…respectfully. If we as blacks learn to work together on issues that arise in our community….”together” I say, there would be no limit to what we could accomplish as a race..

@ 98 Perfect Response on Banner!!!

“Because you guys DON’T WANT TO REALLY FIX OUR PROBLEMS” I can’t believe a grown ass man said that !!!!!! Its not the “leaders” responsiblity to fix “our” problems its “ours”. People have to want to help themselves (if they don’t then that’s their problem). Nothing in life is handed to you, you have to work for it. There is no excuse not to be a successful black youth in America. There are no laws specifically oppressiong blacks….people are just lazy…..

Newho I feel sorry for Brandy, they know that she is a little (lol) famous and want to get everything they can from her….

my bad “oppressing”

Oh yeah…I am glad to hear that it wasn’t Rhames dogs that had anything to do with the death of his caretaker.

David Banner seriously wrote that letter? By himself? Damn, its so articulately written.

@171.

You hit the nail on the head.

I mad my comments are awaiting moderation . geesh

dang tammy what u say

Newsflash, the crash was in DECEMBER!!! What do they mean she was partying so soon after the crash? How long does she have to be depressed over what happened?

I do not understand why people or looking to Oprah, Al, and others to be leaders for Black America. Best case, they are celebrities with money or high profile personalities, but I don’t recall voting for any of them during the last election in my neighborhood. We can seriously expect them to make a difference where we live… It is on each of us individuality to stand up and be leaders where we live. If we devise a personal plan for change for ourselves individuality and stop looking for someone to lead us in the path of righteousness, self-love, respect, dignity and self-worth we would than become our own greatest advocate for change.

Oprah does not sit on the city council in my city. Her name was not on my voting ballet. I do not expect her to promote change in anyway in my city. I do however expect those I voted for to represent my interests.

Use the power you have. You have the power to change you. Vote.

178.
say that, all the people who think like must have been at work today

@ Ja

I think you missed my point. My point isn’t about kids being effected by hip hop or even woman for that matter. My point is about a person, making a living off of exploiting and perputating pure negativity and not expecting to be called out on it. Like I said in my first post. I don’t believe in censorship and I do believe parents are ultimatly responsible for their childrens actions. However I do believe in calling it like it is. Don’t pretend that you are doing something positive and that you are interested in uplifting black people when you make your money doing the exact opposite. Period. It’s just that simple.

The problem with SOME hip hop is that, people don’t want to call it what it is. I’m not some old lady. i listen to hip hop. It’s not like I don’t understand where these rappers are coming from, but so many of them are selling themselves short. Look at how impressed we are with the fact that David Banner comes off as intellegent. Why should we be surprised at that. A lot of these rappers are intellegent people, just like a lot of other people from the hood are. However, these rappers are complete idiots, because they dumb themselves down for profit, at the expense of their own people - that’s my beef.

If rappers who said these things were driven into the underground, I wonder how many of them would continue to do so? I can almost garuntee you alot of them would change their tune, because a lot of these lyrics aren’t even about their lives, it’s about a ganster image they feel that they must perpetuate make money. The so caught up in the image, the creativity is gone. I don’t think every rapper needs to talk about the sun and the moon etc. However, if your gonna talk about gangsta life, tell it like it is FOR REAL. Because there is no glamor in selling crack out your momma’s house and getting thrown in and out fo jail every week. In the real world, that’s how it goes down. There aren’t a lot of bently’s parked outside the P.J.’s.

The problem with hip hop is that we have it all backwards. The rappers who are actually talk about real shit are in the underground and the one’s spitting nonsense are in the mainstream. Don’t you’ll realize this is by design. If these hip hop artist were tryin to start a revolution, these labels would drop them like hop potatoes. As long as they contribute to the dumbing down of music they’re a okay. That’s my point. It’s not about what they say, it’s about why they say it - for profit. And the fact that they won’t own up to that.

Also, I don’t understand why people continually bash Oprah, but we put people who talk about murder, guns, ho’s and the crack game on pedestals? WTF? Criticize oprah if you want, but everytime I see a black woman on her show she is intellegent, accomplished and being treated with respect. I can’t same for some of our rap hero’s.

@178
Enough with that voting nonsense. If voting worked, Al Sharpton and these men that capitalize off of racial situations would not have a niche in this society.

that accident was last year, i dont think brandy is gonna be as upset as the damn widower over the lady’s death, in her field sometimes u just have to brush things off or put ur personal life to the side and keep workin, everybody mourns in their own way

David Banner poor example to the young black youth bra!!!!

the question is WHO IS BANNER LEADING???? These leaders and philanthropist don’t have to get involved at all. Oprah chooses to help people that she don’t have to help at all and people still complaining. SHUT UP and do something yourself!!! The complaints about our youth and behaviors are true. This is the problem we don’t want to hear the ugly truth and get all defensive about rightful criticism that we bring on ourselves. I bet if Banner was in some kind of unfair legal trouble, I bet he would want AL and Jesse to help him out. He needs to sit down. Just like 50 cent being mad at Oprah for her opinion on rap lyrics, his lyrics ARE vulgar toward black women PERIOD and I’m tired of people using the jungles(ghetto) that they came from as an excuse because I lived in the so called HOOD. Change your reality by changing your speech, your attitude, your thought life. We all have that power to change but we choose not to do so and make ‘poor ole me’ excuses.

@ 180. the real cookie

I am sorry if I’m missing your point. But that was the exact point Oprah and Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson are making. Which is what the post is about. This is why this all started. Al Sharpton and David Banner are from the same World Musically. And four years ago when they were try to get all the hip hop star behind the vote for Kerry, they where not concerned with lyrical content. I don’t pretent to know much about rap music. And trust I might be younger than you and female (by the way) I dont defend the content. But at the same time stop buying music you dont like. Stop going to the concerts. If you stop listen to a person, they will stop talking. Underground artist not doing good cause no one is buying the music.

“My point is about a person, making a living off of exploiting and perputating pure negativity and not expecting to be called out on it.”

That is a good line. That is how you feel and you are welcome to that. But to the same time this is America that is exactlly what the Bill of Rights affords us. The first amendment give us the freedom to say as we please. What ever it is that maybe. It is entertainment, make believe. ” keep it real” yea right. OPARH is entertainment, rapper are entertainer. They ARE NOT HERO. And for all the negative things that Oparh says and does, you talk about the good things. That all these artist are asking for. So you dont like their content don down play all the good they have done. Because trust David Banner has sent his share of kids to college.

@judah

Oh voting works. The people who are voting arent working properly.

To the family of the deceased who is obviously looking for ammunition to take to court on Brandy, we are all saddened for your lost, sincerely, but i think it’s a shame that you would exploit a awful situation and try to turn this horrific accident into a pay day. You should be a shamed. If the woman that hit your wife’s car was a random person, you would not be pursuing this as you are, instead, you would be seeking therapy and trying to work through your pain and lost with your family. Not to trivialize your lost, but these type of accidents happen every day, and while it’s unfortunate, sometimes these things happen, though they don’t hurt any less. It’s awful to lose someone suddenly in an accident of any kind, but to presumably exploit this lost is just sad and shameful. What if the person that hit your wife was a person with no money, then what would you have done? She hasn’t been charged in this crime, surely, if she would have been wreckless, as some people on here claims, then she would have at least been ticketed, and presumably later charged with either a misdemeanor or felony crime. The reason why this hasn’t been done is because there’s no evidence of any foul play as of yet. They’ve been investigating this for months. I had a car accident in few years back where i hit a car from behind, but i was cut off suddenly on the highway, where the car suddently jerked itself into my lane. I had no room to swerve, and i hit the car, not bad, but i taped it even though i hit my brakes. I was never charged with anything because even though i hit that car, the person in the front was at fault because witnesses were able to state that the vehicle suddenly pulled into my lane. Point mentioning, these things happen, and sometimes people walk away, and sometimes people don’t; i just hope your law suit for being done for the right reasons and not greed. My thoughts and prayers are with both families.

TO DAVID BANNER AND AL SHARPTON:

I SEE NON-BLACK PEOPLE, AND THEY ARE LAUGHING AT US. I COULD SAY SO MUCH MORE, BUT WHY, THIS MESS WILL NEVER CHANGE.

SURELY, MARTIN L. KING IS TURNING OVER IN HIS GRAVE WHILE CORETTA IS CATCHING HIM UP ON WHAT’S BEEN GOING DOWN SINCE HIS DEATH. HE’D BE SO ASHAMED…

ENOUGH SAID.

David Banner,this punk should be thankful his black a.. can even make music,sell records and live the life he lives. If it wasn’t for the Al’s,Jesse’s, Dr King and other prominent black leaders his black a– would be picking cotton in the fields right now. Alot of young blacks are so ignorant these days because they don’t care about nothing,won’t stand for nothing,and to me will never amount to nothing. I don’t care if you sell a billion records,here in the good old USA you are still just another dumb black man to most white people out there. You think it’s ok to call women b-t-hes and h–s and each other the N-word BUT GET MAD IF SOME WHITE PERSON CALLS YOU THAT,you are too stupid to realize that the white man no longer has to put a rope around your neck to hang you, he just gives the rope to you and let you do it yourself. It might take a little longer but you will eventually kill yourself and take as many of your young black brothers and sisters with you as you can…Wake up BlacK People!!!!

I think its sickening that people are questioning the motives of AL and Jesse. Like they are motivated by media attention as to compare them with a Paris Hilton, YOU IDIOTS! These men have a calling on their lives that they chose to answer to and could choose to give up at anytime and who will lead or speak up for our ungrateful selves then? These men recieve death threats for doing what they do for our ungrateful selves. They can not save us from everything that we get ourselves into. You can not tell me they enjoy the pressure, criticism, and threats on their lives, and the unappreciation from black folk like Banner, just for a thrill. You sound ignorant! It has to be a calling!!! Leave Jesse alone about his infidelity. That woman might have kept after him. I’m sure alot of women came after Jesse because women are attracted to authority figures. He gave in to temptation. He shouldn’t have but he did and he has to deal with the consequences of his actions just like everybody else. I’m proud to have them as advocates for the black community because they bring attention to the battles that come against us and they don’t have to. Because no one else has the guts or tenacity to do it. As far as Oprah is concerned, what she was saying is that our youth today are so spoiled, and we are, that we don’t appreciate what we have in this country. We covet material things like ipods, shoes, and put our energy into learning the latest dances. We take things like an education for granted, we dumb down for the sake of being street! we just don’t want to admit it. She chose to build a school in an area of the world that don’t have it half as good as we do here and for kids that won’t take it for granted like we do. Why should’nt they have the best. I’m proud she did’nt give them less than they deserve. If she chose to buy a car or another mansion with that money, nobody would say anything, because we only care about the material things. This is the reason why we have so many illegal aliens, because they want what we have taken for granted. We should applaud them more than we do celebrities that don’t do anything tohelp their neighbor and would rather buy bling that to help anybody.

The husband of the deceased is full of shit. i understand he’s mourning but Brandy has to get over the accident and move on with her life. I suggest he does the same!!!! It has been almost a year!!!!! I’m proud Brandy is out partying, she shouldnt let this accident stop her from living!!!!

#83- Just had to pop in and say this:

Those kids in Africa will NEVER have a chance in their wildest dreams. That’s why. Over here we have the opportunity to attend schools and that’s enough in itself. It is not Oprah’s fault some people don’t want to take advantage of that opportunity because they’re more interested in other trivial things. It’s ridiculous. Some black women in America can’t afford a decent house, but you better be sure as hell they can afford that $250 dollar weave!

__Oh and I think both Banner and Jackson are wrong. I don’t depend on Jackson for nada. End of story.

Oh, and I also think it’s RIDICULOUS that all these people are telling this poor guy to “get over” the death of his wife. WTF! Brandy must’ve done something stupid on that freeway is all I know..And if she had driven over my mother, I’d be mad as heck too! Yes, she should live her life and shouldn’t have to dwell in sorrow, one of the reasons being she has her own daughter to take care of, but it’s whatever to me. I’m sure people on Brandy’s camp would probably be even more pissed if someone ran over Brandy, leaving her daughter motherless.

Oh, and FYI, I don’t take Sharpston seriously about 96% of the time…He’s so full of BS. Everything is racial to him.

If it weren’t for people like Jessie Jackson, Oprah, Rev Al and a lot of people who lived through the worst of struggles in the 60s a lot of us black people would not even be on a computer and being able to voice our opinions today.

Sorry David but I disagree. You and I grew up with cable television, being able to work and get the same education, employment, where rappers like Russell Simmons, Jay Z, Diddy, 50 cent, Beyonce, Little Kim were able to have the same amount or more in their banking account as the white man.

During our “leaders” error they were constantly fighting to make a future for we black people. Demonstrating you don’t have to give up and take just anything including giving up your hopes and dreams just because people said Black people were behind. These people had riots, fought, supported Dr. Martin Luther King and walked and stood out in front of business that refuse to hire or allow person in their store because of the color of their skin.

David you can talk all this bullshit that you want, but it’s people like you that will have us back to place where our ancestors lived without being able to voice our rights. Are the rappers who have gotten it easy who were former drug dealers, been in jail for taking what’s not yours, and shooting your own skin color just to rule a certain block and power? What have you done? We can’t even have a decent award show for our black people without a shooting from our own race or some other type of hate.

David Banner I doubt you will make anyone’s history book because you talk about our leaders but remember there are those that will grow up one day and ask how can you sit there and tell another black individual to suck your $%#. This type of outburst and foolishness you displayed is only entertainment for the white man that love when black people turn against one another. None of these white people have any respect for the rappers and will always laugh at the way you, 50 cent and Luda act to one another. What have you done? You weren’t the only person helping with Hurricane Katrina victims. There are plenty black people who went down there without a name and invited victims to live in there homes. Cooked food out of their own money earned from mopping floors at a hospital and cleaning some white persons house, but did what they could to help those unfortunate.

David Banner wants attention and his warrant is an embarrassment. Just another brother trying to bring a smile on the white man’s face by disrespecting those of color that have succeeded their goals.

You don’t speak for me David Banner. I find you ignorant and lacking respect. Whatever you voiced will be forgotten by the end of the year. You are not even thought of until this statement. Yet, people like Oprah, Jesse, Rev Al names that have built intimidated the white man enough to force them to open the doors on the ones who worked hard to get in them will always be remembered. You’re just one of the few who have shown nothing other than you can whine.

what david banner said was all so true—our so called leaders are not doing their job for the (n.a.c.p.)!!!! the jenna 6 should have been on cnn,fox,nbc,abc & all the other stations but no- WE ARE NOT IMPORTANT!!!!! woohoo! the president daughter is getting married-who da *%^$ cares????? we have GOT to find a solution! this so crazy…….building a school in africa,when we need schools here…..worried about giving WORDS(hoes,bit#%,#igga) a furenal….youve got children out of wedlock but upset with young teenage mothers….our leaders need to stop worring about our music and start worring about our lives! teach a child how to do right–and it will–it might take awhile but it will.we must learn how to educate ourselves about the basics-education,money and family.black leaders cant ’save the day’ but they can do a hellva lot better!!!!!

on the brandy ….
the husband must remember that is wife is NEVER going to come back and Brandy nor him can change that (the money might help) may her soul RIP……….

^^^^^ FYI last time I checked primary and secondary public education was free (thats why we have taxes) and FASFA is available for poor students like me who can’t afford to go to college. .Black leaders have brought us out of slavery, from jim crow laws, and segregation…they can’t go on job interviews with you and help you get a job, remind you to use a condom, aid you in school, help buy houses, pay bills for you, tell you to stay away from drugs and gangs. Seriously you have to do something for yourself… . . . . . . . .

Most of the gangsta music is disgusting and degrading. Look at how David Banner addresses Al Sharpton, totally with no respect. This is typical in rap music, which many times shows no respect towards another Black person. Even if David disagrees with Al such language is unacceptable. This is why Imus thought it was ok to make his statement, because of people like David. His letter is confusing.

That is not David Banner in that picture!!!! get it together CL! But I do agree with him, people are so damn concerned about rap when it should be about the people. These songs don’t hurt the people, people have been calling one another names for a long time. I tell you what, when I start hearing/seeing people doing something about the violence (that’s been a part of our community), the homeless, the aids victims that seem to have risen in our community from black men who don’t give a shit about us, then I’ll listen to Al. I wish he would sit his hot combed, greasy hair ass down! Go out to the hood nigga, and stop showing up only to get on television.

I mean, just like that movie said, all the people that actually want to make a change die. Make a change nigga, and die.

i’m sorry that the man lost his wife, but Brandy didn’t maliciously cause the accident nor was she under the influence of anything, falling asleep, or talking on the phone.
i do think she should provide compensation in a interest earning trust fund for the victims children & a settlement for the husband. however as much as i sympathize with the parents losing their daughter, i don’t think they should be able to sue her.

is it me, or does banner REALLY remind u of damon dash on that pic right there? its kinda weird… look entirely different with a fitted and rays on, haha

I think 8 months is enough time for Brandy to mourn this situation. Thier was nothing wrong with her going out, she is not Paris Hilton. It seems like the family was just waiting for her to do anything so they could jump on her. Hold ya head up B.

I think David Banner just wants attention. No doubt the lack of representation in our communiy is lack luster. But who is he? What has he done? He had no right to disrespect them just for his own gain. Al Sharpton should not have responded. This is not a rap record. Yet.

kind.

Gansta Rap = Minstrel Show

It’s just that simple. Black people acting a fool and disrespecting themselves for the joy, entertainment and pleasure of white people. Yes, because white people are the ones buying it. Whoever can’t see how these negative images affect us is bugging. If we complain about the way white people depict us in the mainstream media, how is that we don’t complain about it when it comes to black people?

@185

The Real Cookie is making some valid points.

I’m in my mid-twenties so I consider myself young also. We all understand freedom of speech and it’s not about us as young adults understanding that hip hip is for entertainment. The problem is the fact that kids are trying to immulate these fictional lifestyles. I grew up in the hood. I know the issues and people can post in these forums all day saying that parents should be responsible for the actions of their kids, but at the end of the day these kids are raising themselves. Young parents with questionable mentalites don’t have much to offer kids and the drug addicted parents are too busy chasing a high, then you have the single moms that are too busy working to keep the lights on. And I can tell that David Banner knows of these issues and understands because he spoke of DuBois in his letter to Sharpton. The talented tenth have to help bring the masses of blacks from our state of ignorance. So if you know the problems and understand the ignorace, why would you promote it? FOR THE LOVE OF MONEY! Our oppressors have instilled in us to vaule money more than our lives. The people in this country understand that blacks will sell each other out for a little profit even if the affects are detrimental to our community. We have to stop defending bad and start taking a stance for what is right. We can’t leave the state of our community on the shoulders of our so-called “black leaders” and downplay their efforts because we haven’t made progress. Before there is true change people have to know that they deserve better. The affects of drugs have reversed allot of the previous efforts made by our black leaders.

Our generation has completely changed the game. If I’m an articulate, attractive, well-dressed black women than I’m “acting white”. But back in the sixties seventies, and eighties that was the norm for black women to carrier themselves with grace and tact and to dress nice and to become educated.

ok not to be harsh or anything but if he is still mourning the death of his wife, why is he spending his time on the internet looking at pictures of Brandy partying. He should be spending his time with family and friends healing and celebrating the memory of his wife. Seems to me like he and his lawyer are trying to build a stronger case based on emotional stress. I wonder if they are suing everyone involved in the crash?

David Banner does have a point about our black leaders. I have not seen one interview from Al or Jesse discussing the gross injustice going on with the Jena 6 situation. Oh but then again Al was so wrapped up into doing tv interviews on the duke rape case he probably didn’t even notice.

@203 jes

The Real Cookie is making some valid points.

I think you missed her point as she stated it doesnt matter if it is afffecting the kids are degrading women. They not “keeping it real”. Well as parents” We not keeping real” It dont matter how old you are once you have them Kids it’s timeout for all childish things. Kids blame other people for they problems. “Young parents with questionable mentalites don’t have much to offer kids and the drug addicted parents are too busy chasing a high, then you have the single moms that are too busy working to keep the lights on.” Excuess, Excuess. All that is from bad parenting. So you’re saying that because these people fail to provide Emotional support to their kids, someone else should change their way of life to make sure these kids are taking care of. That sounds like self pity and blame to me. When I see bad parenting I take them aside and I tell the with tact. I dont say” boy that rap music is really messing up your kid”. If TI talk to your son more than you do of course its sounds goods. Anything is better than nothing. Its not 50 cent fault that a child only has one parent, or that the mother didnt do what she need to do while she was in school to get where she need to be in life. Hell he had a bad mother too. Why should he feel sorry for her. WE NEED to BREAK THIS CYCLE. When you get off work i know you tired, so what. Read a book with your babies. Talk to your lil girl about respect. Talk to your lil boy about respect. Dont let your kids dictate your personal life, but dont let your personal life dictate your kids. Put your kids in the know. And it not just rapper either. We need to look at what some of these singers male and female are saying. Be the example for your kids. YOU RIGHT THERE. IT DOESN’T MATTER WHATS IN A SONG, WHATS RIGHT BE FOR THEIR EYES MAKES THEM THE MAN OR THE WOMAN THEY WILL BECOME.

Somebody please tell me what the hell has David Banner ever done to uplift the Black community? How dare he go at Black people who have made sacrifices for our people and have made diligent eforts to get things done? Is he serious?

I am sorry to hear about dude wife, but that does not mean brandy should stop living her life, I mean it was a fucking accdent!! it ain’t like she went to the lady car and shot and killed her. so dude need to clam his money hungey ass down because don’t no body wants to hear that shit. he sounds like he is more worried about what the fuck brandy doing then his wife if you ask me!!

glad Brandy isn’t hiding…I co-sign with everyone who says she can’t mourn forever.

David Banner..he’s done some good things, but what the fuck was he thinkin when he started ranting? I don’t know…

To all those saying Sharpton needs to help the Jena Six–how do you know he isn’t? A quick google search will come up with

http://www.katc.com/Globa...520&nav=menu209_2boom

a story about Sharpton protesting on behalf of the Jena 6. Just because the media doesn’t cover it widely doesn’t mean he’s not trying to help. And if the media did cover it–ya’ll say he was just doin it for attention. He can’t win.

David Banner letter is a reflection of some urban adult and most urban youth mindset. Our black leaders and elders are out of touch with reality. They don’t care about what’s going on in the hood. They just want TV time. The white man is keeping us down. That is far from the truth with the exception of the white man keeping us down. He’s holding us down but we’re making it easy for him to do so. Our black leaders and elders are disappointed in us and they have the right to be. They sacrificed blood, sweat, and tears to better our current and future existence. They laid down the foundation for us the bridge the social and economical gaps and want us to continue the movement, are we living up to the challenge. I think our black leaders see the hip –hop community as under utilizing there influential powers to bridge those gaps.

I hate to agree with our black leaders on this, because I’m a hip-hop head but there right. Hip-hop needs to man up and take some of the responsible not all but some and stop pointing the finger. I understand hip-hop has created a lot of jobs and opportunity for the black community but is has also tainted the minds with beliefs that thuggin and street cred is more important than doing what ethically and morally right.

Example: “Stop Snitchin”, some of our youth are living by this code. We all know the police and judicial system is flawed. Can’t we come up with a better idea then “Stop Snitchin” to counter this flawed system

“Cam’ron was featured on the April 22, 2007 edition of news show 60 Minutes, and was interviewed by Anderson Cooper about the “Stop Snitching” campaign. When asked if he would tell the police if a serial killer was living next to him, he replied “I would probably move,” but he wouldn’t inform the police.”

These same criminal were not snitchin on are the same criminal that are going to pass this mental down to their kids, in-turn keeping us on this same destructive course. I’m looking for the punk that killed my best friend so I can snitch on him.

Give our black leaders a break. I don’t think our black leaders and elders are asking too much of us. Help them help us! There catching heat from both sides the black community and White America. There being called hypocrites by White America for addressing issues that we haven’t addressed in our own communities. The black communities are saying, our black leaders aren’t doing enough in the community. How can they go to bat for us when we’re not collectively helping ourselves?

We need a resolution! United we stand divide we fall!

Brandy was involved in the accident in Dec 06. It is now AUGUST 2007!!!!!

EIGHT MONTHS ON and they expect her to be still a wreck?

The bitch aint show herself anywhere till APRIL. And she aint been doing a Paris Hilton. The only way we hear about her is through Websites!!!!!

This is all a clever attempt at getting the ‘potential’ jury who will decided what happens in Jan, to be mad at Brandy. To stir up bad feelings to her. They want America to hate Brandy. So they can sue the HELL out of her! Its DISGUSTING.

The parents aint seen their daughter in THREE YEARS. They in a DIFFERENT CONTINENT. And they wanna sue for $50 million?????

The Husband and His Wife were ESTRANGED up until the accident, and now he’s all upset?

Keep it moving..

With the whole brandy thing..i mean i don’t really think we can say much really say anything because none of us are really in either of their shoes so im not gonna sit there and tell them to get over it because yall know if it was vice versa you would still be upset. Deaths not easy to get over with ya know .So i guess you can’t say much until it really happens to you.

Excuse me! But NOBODY can speak for BRANDY & NOONE can speak for the WIDOWER in this case (unless you lost your WIFE/HUSBAND or a very, very close Relative or loved one) Who are some of you to judge how long a person should mourn for anothers death. That man has a right to greive the loss of his wife for as long as it takes.

When some of ya’ll go through that type of Devastating loss then you will understand until then you really don’t know what you are talking about (you “cannot” relate)!! You have no idea where this mans “mental state” is right now. I have Respect for the man & I know where he is coming from (I lost someone close to me, at the hands of someone else, as I mentioned earlier).

BRANDY does not give a shit because it wasn’t her Mother, Father, or her brother Ray J. So thats how she can move on so quickly & not give a shit. Her conscience is alot better than mines because I sure as hell wouldn’t be “partying”—I’d be out doing some charity work, going to places to hear people in the same situation speak out amongst each other, She can be doing so much more than what she is. (maybe she has, we don’t know everything).

But I don know this…it isn’t my place to say when someone should get over the loss of someone really close to them, because that takes a whole lot more time thana person may “think”. Once again..you have to go through it to understand where the man is coming from. I feel that mans pain.

I hope God gives him strength to move on, & forgive Brandy for what she has done.

Excuse me! But NOBODY can speak for BRANDY & NOONE can speak for the WIDOWER in this case (unless you lost your WIFE/HUSBAND or a very, very close Relative or loved one) Who are some of you to judge how long a person should mourn for anothers death. That man has a right to greive the loss of his wife for as long as it takes.

When some of ya’ll go through that type of Devastating loss then you will understand until then you really don’t know what you are talking about (you “cannot” relate)!! You have no idea where this mans “mental state” is right now. I have Respect for the man & I know where he is coming from (I lost someone close to me, at the hands of someone else, as I mentioned earlier).

BRANDY does not give a shit because it wasn’t her Mother, Father, or her brother Ray J. So thats how she can move on so quickly & not give a shit. Her conscience is alot better than mines because I sure as hell wouldn’t be “partying”—I’d be out doing some charity work, going to places to hear people in the same situation speak out amongst each other, She can be doing so much more than what she is. (maybe she has, we don’t know everything).

But I don know this…it isn’t my place to say when someone should get over the loss of someone really close to them, because that takes a whole lot more time thana person may “think”. Once again..you have to go through it to understand where the man is coming from. I feel that mans pain.

I hope God gives him strength to move on, & forgive Brandy for what she has done.

I think that David Banner has some valid points but at the same time he should show more respect for those that have paved the way for him. I am apart of that black youth that he mentions so often and I do not feel as if anything that leaders such as Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Julian Bonds or Bill Cosby have said are bashing me in any way. I believe that what they have said is the truth and people get upset when you hear the truth.

David Banner’s heart is in the right place but he seems to have a little misguided anger. He want’s to be a voice for the black community but you don’t do it by being rude to those that have marched on the streets of Selma, been arrested at sit ins and forced to the back of the bus to do that . He should work with these indivduals to solve these pressing issues and develop some actual resolutions to these problems …that’s all I have to say.

83.
ROUNDNBRWN
Friday, August 17, 2007

I AGREE WITH DAVID BANNER!!! WHY IS OPRAH OVER THERE IN AFRICA, BUILDING SCHOOLS, WHEN THERE ARE PLENTY OF POOR BLACK KIDS IN AMERICA WHO NEED HELP WITH THEIR TUITION FOR COLLEGE AND JUST HELP LIVING PERIOD! JESSE AND AL NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT THIS MAN IS SAYING…HE MAKES A LOT OF SENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DENISE SAID: STUDENT LOANS AND GRANTS EXISTS FOR POOR KIDS WHO WANT TO GO TO COLLEGE, AND ALSO THERE ARE PLENTY OF UNIVERSITIES THAT OFFER LOWER TUITION RATES. IF YOU HAVE TO GET A FULL TIME JOB AND GO TO SCHOOL PART-TIME DO THAT. THERE IS NO EXCUSE NOWADAYS IN AMERICA TO NOT HAVE AN EDUCATION. I USE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT OPRAH NOT DOING ENOUGH FOR AMERICAN BLACKS, BUT HEY, I DO NOT NEED HER ORDER TO GET AHEAD. I AM VERY PROUD OF OPRAH, SHE WENT FROM BEING A DIRT POOR KID IN MISSISSIPPI, TO A MOGUL. I DO NOT AGREE WITH EVERYTHING SHE DOES OR SAYS, BUT HEY SHE DOES NOT MAKE BLACK FOLKS LOOK BAD.

interesting ….

like chris rock once said “it’s a war, niggas v. black people and the niggas have got to go!” david banner is an embarrassment to black folks who work hard, are educated, and can speak without using vulgar language in every sentence.

David Banner is a bad influence on these kids growing up. He would have made points to take action had it not been for his stupidity in disrespect telling another brotha to suck his &*^%. What the hell is that? How can Banner set an example when he doesn’t respect others. My parents grandparents taught me to respect others. These very black leaders today fought and stood in the rain watched brothers get beaten to death by the white man or cops where only a hand few of black people protest against it. During that time our parents were washing dishes, waiting tables and cleaning floors so we could have a decent education and be happy not even realizing how poor we really were.

Banner lost me at suck my *(&1. Those very black leaders he disrespected fought against the white man for equal rights for all people of color. Who was behind Rosa Parks and marched with Martin Luther King Jr while white people spat on them, arrested them and where black people lived in fear from the white man.

Now people like Banner fight against black people. How can we get ahead fighting against each other instead of working together. I don’t blame Oprah or Rev Sharpton to ignore some of these crazy azz bs talking rappers. They have no respect and why should Oprah or any leader who fought so hard and know what it really is like to live where the majority black people in that time period were single black parents had to eat syrup on a slice of bread and oatmeal each breakfast.

It’s the typical repeat of another ignorant ass trying to grab attention while he’s rapping about claiming the territory, shooting another brotha and calling women in videos hos. This is just another rapper 50 cent wanna be who thinks calling out black leaders for attention. Just trying to outdo somebody else.

David please tell me when you get into trouble and your homies will rat and sell you out who are you going to turn to when the white man drags your behind to a jail. Who do you see Lil Kim and Foxy run to when they get in trouble.

You talk BS but you young rappers do not know how to handle the white man when you get in trouble. When you get your azz in trouble with the white man , all these people agreed with you will laugh and say you are ignorant and the other rappers will turn on you like they do each other. The only black people these white people get intimidated is by the black leaders. They have no fear of a ignorant rapper. Your name isn’t big as Jay-z or Diddy and you don’t have enough clout with these white folks to get bail your self out. These very black leaders will still be there to help bail you out. But being the ignorant nigga you are you will be too stupid to appreciate

Let me just say this, first off like someone else touched on, that’s not David Banner in that picture. Lol.

I notice that many people are asking, “What has David Banner done?” without checking to see what David Banner has done. To Bill’s credit, he asked the same rhetorical question and went out to find the anwser, post #124. I already knew that the brother was involved in many programs and sponsorships to help the black community so that was never an issue with me. As an aside, who says that you have to have your hand and your pockets in a million and one programs to have a right to question who, allegedly, is “leading the black community” any damn way? The issue that I have with some of the people who have said things against this man, David Banner, is that it seems as if it’s coming from a bourgeois perspective. I think it shows the level of the brother’s character that he has a college degree, which many black people value more than life itself, and he still has not forgotten about his community.

I think it’s worth examinig that many people on this thread assumed that he was not educated because he spoke out against this society. That’s why I say I measure mentalities, not words. Understand one thing as well; just because you don’t hear David Banner on every other song like you do that syruphead, Lil Wayne, doesn’t mean that the brother is not stackin’ paper. He has produced many hit records that people are probably not aware he has produced. In my honest opinion, the problems that the black community has are spiritual and societal issues, not economic. This is what Banner is touching on that his detractors don’t seem to understand.

Whether a person is ignorant or not has very little to do with their education. Some of the most ignorant and honestly, stupidest, people that I’ve ever met were college and graduate school graduates. Most of our black graduates come out of college enamored of the caucasian and have their mind set only on how they can improve his society and make money for him while getting a sizable cut for themselves. That’s why it seems to me that some of the furor against Banner is from a bourgeois stance. He’s a black male and a rapper that speaks against this society, so he’s obviously uneducated and stupid right? He must be disenchanted, unsuccessful, bitter, and broke right? This from “his own people”, many of whom would probably get DISMANTLED in a one-on-one debate with the brother by the way.

Hypothetically, if your belief is that “blacks need to do for self”, then what the hell does the black community need Al Sharptongue for in the first place? Lol, as a matter of fact, if your belief is that “blacks need to do for self”, then why champion voting for? The other races have arrived in America far after blacks, have surpassed blacks, and I never hear them asking each other who they’re going to vote for. They just continue to unify, create their own businesses, and generate their own revenue for their own communities. Furthermore in 27 years of life on this earth, living in NYC, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a homeless Asian man or East Indian man or African man for that matter. I’ve seen hundreds, if not thousands, of black and hispanic homeless people though. Those people of the other races recognize the importance of their culture and history, how it correlates to their success AS A RACE, and it encourages them to build each other up as opposed to tearing each other down. This is what alot of our people, in my opinion, don’t seem to grasp when they put forth their personal life philosophy that they act like is an actual “plan”.

Trying to get people to adopt your outlook on life is like trying to get them to make your favorite food, their favorite food. It’s fruitless. What some of you bourgeois, elitist negroes don’t understand is that any intelligent, clear-minded, ambitious INDIVIDUAL is going to succeed in any race. The topic at hand is the problems that we have as a RACE. This society is designed and aligned to protect certain races and destroy others. I think Hillary Clinton said it best when she brought out that whites that drop out of high school make more money than blacks that graduate. Mind you, she didn’t say, “whites that GRADUATE from high school make more money than blacks that gradute”. She said,”whites that DROP OUT of high school make more money than blacks who graduate.” I’m not really a stat man, but that was a staggering statistic. It basically shatters the negro’s hopes and dreams of societal equality through education.

Although, it may seem funny that R. Sharpton’s camp came back with their reply. It’s not. This is a Reverend- an ordian minister and your people basically released a statements calling the guy a homo. It’s tasteless- you’d think they would set an example and respond without the homosexuality references. It took away from their response because I kept thinking why would a Rev let that statement be release? David’s statement had so many curse words they could have turned it around and used it as a basis for their platform (against Hip-Hop; cursing,disrespect, etc) instead they just fell into a hole.

Brandy- no one knows how Brandy feels. No one if she’s just putting on a show or could care less. She could be thinking everyday about taking a life, it was an accident but she still caused it. Just because you see her for a couple of hours smiling or just because you see pictures of her partying at a club it doesn’t mean that she’s not thinking about the lady every day.

I can understand how it’s probably just hard for the widower to see because the pictures of her partying are in mags and on the internet.

@214 TIANNI

CAN YOU PICK A SIDE OF THE FENCE AND STAY THERE…..YOUR POST WAS ALL TYPES OF WRONG…YOU CONTRADICTED YOURSELF AT LEAST THREE TIMES…

FIRST YOU SAID NO ONE CAN SPEAK FOR BRANDY OR THE WIDOWER, AND THEN TWO PARAGRAPHS DOWN IN YOUR POST….YOU FUCKIN PROCEED TO TELL ALL OF US HOW BRANDY DON’T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THIS MAN AND HIS FAMILY. WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FIRST, UNLESS YOU KNOW BRANDY OR HER FAMILY AND HAVE SPOKEN WITH HER, AND SHE POINT BLANK SAID SHE COULD CARELESS ABOUT THIS MAN AND HIS FAMILY….WHAT GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO SPEAK SO FRANKLY ON HER BEHALF….SERIOUSLY, I WAS JUST WONDERIN!? HOW DO YOU KNOW HOW SHE FEELS? AND IN ALL FAIRNESS, THERE’S NO SPECIFIED TIME TO GRIEVE ANYTHING, DEPENDS ON THE PERSON, AND THE ACCIDENT HAPPENED LAST DECEMBER, HERE, IN 3 MORE MONTHS, IT WILL BE A YEAR SINCE THE ACCIDENT….I THINK SHE STAYED IN THE HOUSE AND OUT OF THE PUBLIC’S EYE AT LEAST A GOOD SIX MONTHS, ONLY SEEING HER IN THE RECENT TWO MONTHS, SO WHAT’S YOUR POINT….

AND ONCE AGAIN, ALL THE DETAILS OF THE CRASH HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED, AND MIGHT I ADD AGAIN, BRANDY HAS NOT BEEN CHARGED WITH ANY TYPE OF NEGLIGENCE, SO WHY ARE YOU BEING SO CRITICAL OF HER….

SO SPEAK FOR YOURSELF, AND SPEAK FOR WHAT YOU WOULD DO, AND PLEASE DON’T PUT WORDS IN BRANDY’S MOUTH PERHAPS TO SUIT YOUR OWN PURPOSES….I’VE NEVER HEARD OR SAY, NOR HAS HER ACTIONS ELUDED TO SHE DON’T CARE ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE!

THAT IS DAVID BANNER IN THAT PICTURE. HE CUT ALL OF THAT HAIR FROM AROUND HIS FACE . PLEASE KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT B4 MAKING COMMENTS

@223 sweetie

WHO’S HYPER NOW HOE! THROWING STONES IN MY YARD, BUT GOT BIG BULLDOZERS IN YOURS, FUCK OFF HOE! YOU’RE CRAZY.

JSCENCE GO TAKE SOME MEDICATION . IM NOT HYPER I JUST STATED THE FACTS, WITHOUT USING CURSE WORDS OR EXCLAMATION MARKS. SO NOPE TRY AGAIN ,CRAZY ASS GO SEEK HELP … BOUT TO LOOSE YOURSELF VIA WEB LMAO LOSER

@SWEETIE

EXACTLY, I COULD ARGUE THE SAME THING SWEETIE, I’M NOT HYPER, JUST STATING THE FACTS, SO DONT GO THROWING STONES AND JUMPING IN ON THINGS THAT’S GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU….SO YOU SAY YOU DON’T USE CURSE WORDS OR EXCLAMATION MARKS, BUT YOUR ASS SURE IS IN ALL CAPS….HMMMM, THAT’S YELLING IN THE CYBER WORD, BUT YOU SAY YOU’RE NOT HYPER….

I CURSE AND USE EXCLAMATION MARKS CAUSE I CAN SEE:

BYE HOE!

Sharpton has done more for mankind than a lot of his critics. Whatever you think about him, read up on his accomplishments. By the way, what has Mr. Banner done of note? No one ever said “our leaders” have to be perfect and beyond reproach. That is what keep decent, good well meaning people from running for office. Not many people can stand up to the criticisms and scrutiny. I am looking at his overall impact, not on an occasional misstep or misplaced comment. He is the total sum of his deeds, just like the rest of us Mr. Banner.

Mr. Macho wants to give his own autopsy result. A man is dead bro, wait til the report is final before you make pronouncements. You sound like the mine owner in Utah, who emphatically says that, the recent mine collapse was as a result of an earthquake.
This is an effort to influence a potential jury, in case the family wants to go after you for money.

I think that David Danner was right about everthing that he said in letter. I totally agree with everthing that he wrote. They can not blame rap music for the violence that is going on in our communtiy.

I know I am late and my last post was this past Friday but I just have to say, Poster # 165 (JA), what in Hell are you talking about? You DON’T KNOW what you are talking about, and I refuse to continue discussing this with you but before I go. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE read my posts # 146 and # 147. We are talking about two completely different cases. I got the last name wrong but I tried to make it clear it wasn’t the Jenarlo Wilson case where he is still in prison. And what I was referring to was the “rape victim” who Oprah interview for half and hour and she literally cried the entire time but never did a tear fall.

I’m done with you.

@ 205 Ja

You bolded in your response to me WE NEED TO BREAK THE CYCLE. How can we “BREAK THE CYCLE” if these negative behaviors are encouraged from our very own people who have had these same experiences?? You referenced my comments as excuses, but I’m not trying to be forgiven for any actions I have taken. I was giving a preceptive of what’s really going wrong with our communities. We have so many parents that don’t know how to be good parents and I gave examples of people raising our kids. Let me know how many of those you can pull to the side tactfully to teach them how to better raise their kids. No, television shouldn’t be raising our children, but the fact of the matter is that’s exactly what’s going on. Maybe not in your home or in the homes of others that want better lives, but if poor black Americans had the same luxuries as other households in America then we wouldn’t have the problems right?? Yeah you’re talking this “WE NEED TO BREAK THE CYCLE” but you stated “So you’re saying that because these people fail to provide Emotional support to their kids, someone else should change their way of life to make sure these kids are taking care of. That sounds like self pity and blame to me.” So what that says to me is that you don’t feel as an adult you are responsible for setting the right example for our underprivilaged youth. So are your really concerned about “BREAKING THE CYCLE” and if so where are your solutions?? You may not feel responsible for the young black youth, but being a young black woman who has desires of one day becoming a mom, I’m very concerned. Yeah I can raise my kids properly but they still will have to go into the world so I feel it’s my duty to make the world a better place for my kids and others I love.

By the way I didn’t miss the point from The Real Cookie. The point is artists are promoting ficitonal lifestyles for the sake of a dollar and at the same time promoting bad behaviors in our communities. You missed my points and I don’t know if you’ll get them. I’m very firm in my stance. I’m not here to blame anyone for the circumstances and if so please believe that it would not be the artists but our government that has done everything in it’s power to ensure that black America will be a permanant underclass and until “so-called” educated blacks take a stance that’s exactly where we are headed. Our mentalities are so corrupted that we will take a stance for what’s wrong and think we are right, but you know your mind can only fathom the things that have been thought.