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JA RULE INTERVIEW W/ COMPLEX CATCHING HEAT

Thursday, September 13, 2007

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Ja Rule recently sat down with Complex for an exclusive interview on his new album, 50 Cent, politics, and more. He is currently catching heat for what he said about homosexuality in the media.

The rapper mentions the Jena 6 controversy and claims his kids can’t even watch T.V. in the afternoon because MTV is promoting homosexuality. Peep the snippets.

On Congress & homosexuality:

“…They got my man Doug Morris under fire and shit, they got him going down to go speak to Congress about hip-hop lyrics, are you fucking serious? There’s a fucking black kid right now about to get 25 years for having a fight with some white kids over hanging the nooses over the white tree, lets get to that. Let’s get into shit like that, because that’s what’s tearing up America, not me calling a woman a bitch or a hoe on my rap songs. And if it is, then we need to go step to Paramount, and fucking MGM, and all of these other motherfuckers that’s making all of these movies and we need to go step to MTV and Viacom, and lets talk about all these fucking shows that they have on MTV that is promoting homosexuality, that my kids can’t watch this shit. Dating shows that’s showing two guys or two girls in mid afternoon. Let’s talk about shit like that! If that’s not fucking up America, I don’t know what is.” [SOURCE]

Dang MTV is on everyone’s shit list right now. No word on when his new album, The Mirror is hitting stores. Another snippet from the interview is after the cut.

on 50 Cent:

“That’s the difference people don’t understand. Everyone talks about the beef I had with 50; he has beef with all types of rappers, but I’m the only rapper who went and handled my business and went and hollered at him man to man… And the moment I heard he had a record about me, I knew where he resided, I knew where he hung out, I went and seen and him. “Homie, you have a problem with me? What’s happening? You ain’t got to rhyme about it, I’m right here in front of your face.” So that’s how our situation took place, and I handled my business with 50 and 50 knows that. That’s why I’m such a threat to him, that’s why he doesn’t like me so much.”

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pretteyeyez

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

I ain’t even mad at him cause he’s telling da truf!

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kmniles

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

JaRule is dying for publicity. Him bringing up 50 is prime example. Let it go Ja…it’s in the past. Do you want him to come at you again and spoil this album too? lol.

As a man I find it funny how other men can sit around and watch pornos be homophobic. You’re watching a man’s dong screw a woman, camera all up in his ass with balls bouncing off the camera, and you got a problem seeing two men kiss on TV? You’ll watch two women perform lesbian acts and a man screw them both and you’re still anti-gay? Then you go beat off to the shit, lol. Am I the only one who thinks most of these supposed straight men have issues within themselves?

I’ll agree that MTV’s programming sucks and Jena 6, but honestly the rest was a bunch of garbage.

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Dree

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

Ahh , his kids shouldn’t be watchin mtv anyway, that’s not a station for kids. All he can seem to do is point figures at everyone but himself, everyone’s doing that these days.

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Anon

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

#148 PLZ, I understand about there being more than the gay thing, it’s just that I don’t understand how a group of people who were, and still are, looked down upon for no reason other than becus the majority did it, can turn around n do the same thing to another group of people for the same reason…As far as hip hop is concerned, these RAPPERS have to take accountability. Im not sayin it’s their fault that ppl end up doing stuff, becus it’s the parent’s fault to raise their own kids. Rap City has more of an impact in the hood than school does, and anyone who’s honest knows it does. The problem is all of the street shit they bring onto the big screen. How u go to Hollywood, become a film and hip-hop star, and u still livin ya life and sayin shit in the media that sounds like u still livin up in the projects. Celebrity and hoodrat dont mix for long, becus u have to understand the business side of things. When rappers promote havin bling n money n what not, hoodratz, both young and old follow right behind. They got their bling, rimz, and a nice roach filled place to live in apt 17J in the _____ (insert the name of the most “gangsta” projects here) Houses.

All Im saying is celebrated and glorifed ignorance, is still ingorance. And everyone keeps talkig about how THE MAN is attacking Hip Hop, when THE MAN is the one signing these acts (purposely, because black folks eat it up), and getting all of the profits.

And yea, white teens are the biggest supporters, but thats becus they get off on rebelling against what their parents say during teen years. But unlike stupid black ppl, they’re listening to it while they’re studying to pass the SAT. The black kid meanwhile listens to it and decides this is going to be his way out of the hood too, just like 50, his idol. Meanwhile every kid in his old classroom (before he dropped out cus school was “sum bullshit”) is thinkin the same thing.

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Tammy

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

@ 72 Im what’s wrong with America because homosexuality isn’t normal ? I could care less who sleeps with who, but when it gets to the point I have to explain to my four year old nephew why two men are kissing in a resturant it does!! I get so tired of homosexual trying to make ppl accept their lifestyle . I don’t care if it’s a choice or not stay your ass in the closet!! We were not created to be with the same sex. Just because television advertise it and everyone says ” let them live their life” doesn’t mean I have to like it. Seem to me you’re what’s wrong with America If you think it’s right for the same sex to be in a relationship. BTW this is my opinion I don’t give a damn if you like it or not !!

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gaydar

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

Ja get a life. Would it be less offensive if the kissing were by a straight couple. Gay is part of life and deserves equal rights. We are not to hide away in some closet. We are not ashamed no more than you are. Love is love. You can’t help who you fall for.

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bailey

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

I’LL SAY THIS AND KEEP IT MOVIN MY BROTHER IS GAY AND HE CONSTANTLY TALKS ABOUT HIS RELATIONSHIP VERY INTIMATE DETAILS AND ALL-MY PEEPS IS FROM THE OLE SCHOOL WE OF COURSE LOVE HIM UNCONDITIONALLY BUT WE ALSO HAVE OTHER YOUNG CHILDREN IN THE FAMILY THAT ARE AROUND WHEN HE GOES ON ABOUT MY MATE/MY COMPANION, MY HUSBAND SO FORTH AND SO ON YOU GET MY DRIFT

THOSE MESSAGES ARE VERY CONFUSING TO YOUNG CHILDREN WHO HAVE NOT EVEN ESTABLISHED THEIR SEXUAL IDENTITIES-IF THEY SHOULD CHOOSE TO DATE THE SAME SEX WHEN THEY ARE OLDER THAT SHOULD BE THEIR OWN DECISION AND NOT BECAUSE OF THE INFLUENCE OF OTHERS-

HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN WHY A MAN IS SAYING THAT HE HAS A HUSBAND TO A 3 YEAR OLD? ESPECIALLY IF IT GOES AGAINST YOUR MORALS OR YOU HAVENT DISCUSSED SEXUALITY WITH A CHILD?

I FEEL AS THOUGH SOME GAY PEOPLE TRY TO FORCE PEOPLE TO ACCEPT THEIR RELATIONSHIPS BY GOING OVERBOARD BY REFERRING TO THEIR MATE/LOVER/HUSBAND ETC. IT’S LIKE I’M MARRIED AND I DON’T SAY MY HUSBAND ALL THE TIME OR OFFER GRAPHIC DETAILS ABOUT WHAT WE DO SEXUALLY SO OPENLY, NOT EVEN TO MY GIRLFRIENDS.

MY BROTHER AND I HAVE ALWAYS HAD A VERY CLOSE RELATIONSHIP AND DISCUSSED EVERYTHING EXCEPT INTIMATE SEX DETAILS BUT EVERY SINCE HE HAS ” COME OUT” HE TALKS TO ME ABOUT THIS-ALTHOUGH IT MAKES ME UNCOMFORTABLE TO A DEGREE I ENDURE IT BECAUSE I’M AFRAID THAT HE WILL ACCUSE ME OF BEING HOMOPHOBIC-THAT’S NOT THE CASE BUT I AM A HETEROSEXUAL AND I CAN RELATE TO HETEROSEXUAL SEX-WHAT IN THE HELL DO I HAVE IN COMMON OR CAN I ELABORATE REGARDING THEIR SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP? IT’S WIERD AND HARD TO EXPLAIN-IT’S LIKE YOUR GRANDMOTHER TALKING TO YOU ABOUT SHE GETS HER FREAK ON-TMI

TOO MUCH DAMN INFORMATION-KEEP THAT TO YOURSELF

THIS IS MY OPINION AND WHAT I’VE EXPERIENCED-SO DON’T JUMP ALL OVER ME FOR ME STATING JUST THAT

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Tammy

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

Bailey my point exactly .. good post

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soulphlower

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

This discourse is both interesting and sad. It is interesting because you get to see how people really feel about things that they don’t understand and you get to see people who only desire understanding try to express themselves and their point of view and be heard.

What’s sad is, the real focus should be peace, respect, community, diversity, growth and prosperity. For those here that claim to know the word of god, the word also says judge not lest ye be judged. It is not your job to tear someone down and send them to hell because you don’t approve of their life style. You are not in an athoritative position to do so. God did not appoint you to do so. He gave you the word to spread. So if you have a seed to plant you do it peacefully and move on. Jesus associated with robbers, beggars and prostitutes and so on…dwelled with them and taght them the word of God that they might have faith and change their ways. It’s not about disgust and vulgarities and right and wrong and arguing and making someone feel bad about their choices. If you are not hurting anyone who cares how you live. God will deal with whatever he is displeased with in the after life.

No one is perfect. There is always something that a person does that will not please God. Will he be pleased if you are having sex out of wed? Will he be pleased with alcholics and drug abusers? Will he be please with domestic violence? Can anyone stand and say Im perfect and God will be pleased with me???

There is a greater power on this earth that pit us against each other for trivial matters taking our focus off of real issues like the war, the developement of our children, homelessness, racism and civil discontent. Those are the things we should be concerned about. Not who is sleeping with whom.

The word teaches us to love thy neighbor and to teach our children. If we spent more time with our children and build them into spiritual and civil indivduals maybe we could counter some of the influence music and tv has over them. If each person took responsibilty for them selves and came together as a community on the real issue this would be a much better worldto live in.

Racial and cultural divides are a waste of time and energy. And so are sexuality related divides.

I knew a guy that was gay. He struggled with his sexuallity for a long time. He became cellibate and went to church in an effort to “change”. He met a guy who became his partner. His partner convinced him to tell his family. He did and they disowned him. He couldn’t live with his family not accepting him. His struggles continued to plague him and rendered him into a depression. He sank so low because his family made him feel like a vile creature…so he didn’t think he deserved to live. So he committed suicide. A good upstanding black man, that had a good job, went to church and loved the lord. He never hurt anyone. Volunteered at the AIDS clinic and donated clothes and food to charity. And now he is dead because no one he loved could accept him for who he was sure he was.

There are sick people that rape, molest, kill, and do all sorts of things to people and get to live long healthy lives. And there are those on concrete loop arguing about the fate of someone elses soul. Perpetuating hate and exclusion. SMH

Peace Love and Diversity!

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OHSOLUVLEE1

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

Ja Rule is right on the money! Thank you my brotha for breaking it down.

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Greatestloveofall

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

ZARIA wrote:
“What the fuck are people talking about with this “gay agenda” shit??? I notice it’s only the extreme homophobes who make it like gays are corrupting America. We currently have a president whose administration has taken this country to new lows, we are fighting a war that’s killing hundreds of thousands of people and y’all make it like gays are corrupting?? Give me a break!

Parent’s should be the ones raising their children, not television. If you don’t like your kids watching MTV, here’s an idea, DON’T LET THEM WATCH IT! Simple! Since when has MTV been a channel for kids? And all these people here saying “I don’t like my kids watching that gay shit,” I hope you don’t let your kids watch BET either, with the countless number of near naked booty-shaking women on there. Funny how that’s not a problem for Ja but 2 men kissing is SCANDAL!! Nucca please.”
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AMEN. Girl u speakin the truth right there.

I believe that ALL DATING SHOWS AND SHOWS WHICH INVOLVES SEXUAL ACTS BETWEEN ANYONE OF ANY SEXUALITY SHOULD BE OUTRIGHT CANCELLED OFF MTV. NO YOUNG CHILD SHOULD BE EXPOSED TO VULGARITY N FILTH AT A YOUNG AGE.

GAY PEOPLE ARE NOT THE BIGGEST THREAT TO AMERICA. IN THE MEDIA U GOT WOMEN LIKE PARIS HILTON AND LINDSEY LOHAN GETTIN DRUNK, DUI, MAKIN PUBLIC APPEARENCES WITHOUT THEY PANTIES ON, AND ARE INFLUENCING A GENERATION OF YOUNG GIRLS WITH THEIR SLEAZY ASSES. IN POLITICS, WE GOT GEORGE W BUSH, A FAILURE OF A PRESIDENT WHO GOT BRAINS THE SIZE OF A FUCKIN GRAPE. HE’S A WAR MONGER WHO DON’T CARE ABOUT THE US SOLDIERS, DEPLOYING MORE OF THEM ALL THE TIME. HE DONT CARE ABOUT THE PUBLICS MONEY CAUSE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS ARE BEING SPENT ON A POINTLESS WAR. HE TREATS MINORITY GROUPS LIKE TRASH–LOOK AT HURRICAINE KATRINA!! HE DONT CARE ABOUT INNOCENT IRAQI CIVILIANS LOSING THEIR LIVES.

THESE EXAMPLES OF PEOPLE ARE RUINING THE MORAL FABRIC OF AMERICAN SOCIETY MORE THAN GAYS AND LESBIANS EVER HAVE!

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jscene

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

I agree with him. Every Real World season has a gay person on it, they now have dating shows with gay people dating, which they show during primetime hours, family tv time, and let’s not talk about shows like queer folks, and the lesbian show that hugely popular. TV like never before is promoting homosexuality.

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bailey

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

@SOULPHLOWER MUCH RESPECT TO YOU AND I AM GRATEFUL FOR YOUR MESSAGE OF PEACE AND NON-JUDGEMENT

ALTHOUGH I DO AGREE WITH YOU WHOLEHEARTEDLY-THERE WILL AND ALWAYS BE THINGS THAT ARE CONSIDERED BY SOCIETY AS RIGHT AND WRONG AND BEING THAT WE ARE HUMAN AND LIVE AMONGST ONE ANOTHER WE MUST ACCEPT THE FACT THAT OUR ACTIONS MAY BE JUDGED TO A DEGREE

ALTHOUGH AS YOU MENTION WE ARE ALL OF SIN, NOT ONE OF US HAS THE RIGHT TO JUDGE ANOTHER BUT WE ARE HUMAN AND WE ARE A REFLECTION OF GOD BUT WE OF COURSE ARE NOT PERFECT WE HAVE FLAWS-SO THEREFORE WE ALL ARE NOT CAPABLE OF VIEWING ONE ANOTHER AS GOD DOES-IF WE DID I COULD ONLY IMAGINE WHAT A BEAUTIFUL, PEACEFUL WORLD WE WOULD LIVE IN

I HAVE A BROTHER THAT’S GAY, AN AUNT WHO IS GAY AS WELL AND I LOVE THEM IRREGARDLESS, I WOULD NOT TOLERATE ANYONE DISRESPECTING THEM BECAUSE OF THEIR LIFESTYLES

BOTH OF THEM HAVE ENDURED SOME FORM OF SEXUAL ABUSE AND STRUGGLE WITH IDENTITY ISSUES CURRENTLY AND ALTHOUGH ACCORDING TO SOME-GAY PEOPLE ARE BORN GAY BUT I BEG TO DIFFER TO A DEGREE-EVEN IF THAT WERE THE CASE IT DOES SEEM TO BE A COMMON FACTOR THAT GAYS SUCH AS YOUR FRIEND YOU MENTION WHO COMMITTED SUICIDE-LOW SELF-ESTEEM AND IDENTITY ISSUES

NOT SAYING THAT HIS FAMILY JUDGING HIM DID NOT AFFECT HIM AND CONTRIBUTE TO HIS SUICIDE-I DON’T KNOW BUT THERE ARE SO MANY GAY COMMUNITIES AND SUPPORT GROUPS THAT I CAN SHAKE A STICK AT

WE ARE ALL PLAGUED WITH SOME PERCEIVED SHORTCOMING, FLAWS, AND WANT TO BE ACCEPTED BUT MY DEAR FRIEND THE REALITY OF IT IS HEAVEN IS NOT HERE ON EARTH AND HUMAN WILL DO HUMANLY THINGS-THOSE WHO MIRROR OR REFLECT GOD’S IMAGE ARE ANGELS PUT HERE TO DO GOD’S WORK-I RESPECT AND VALUE YOUR OPINION AND ACTUALLY ENJOYED YOUR DELIVERY

BUT BE REAL CLEAR THAT ALTHOUGH YOU CAN CHOOSE TO LIVE YOUR LIFE AS YOU SEE FIT “SO CALLED FREE WILL” YOU ALSO HAVE TO EXPECT THAT OTHER’S WILL NOT AGREE WITH YOUR LIFESTYLE AND MAY OSTRACIZE YOU AND THAT CAN AND MAY BE VERY HURTFUL AND LONELY

EITHER YOU CAN CHOOSE TO STAND STRONG IN YOUR BELIEFS AND SORROUND YOURSELF WITH LIKE MINDED INDIVIDUALS AND SAY TO HELL WITH WHAT OTHER’S THINK-WHICH I ADMIRE FROM ANY INDIVIDUAL

OR YOU CAN BE A BIT MORE SELECTIVE ABOUT WHO YOU DIVULGE INFORMATION ABOUT YOUR PRIVATE SEX LIFE-WHOSE BUSINESS IS IT ANYWAYS WHO YOU SLEEP WITH AT NIGHT

THESE ARE MERE SUGGESTIONS AND MY THOUGHTS ON YOUR POST

GOD BLESS YOU

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jscene

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

I hate when people try to tell me that homosexuality is right, when the bible CLEARLY, CLEARLY, POINT BLANK, says its wrong. Gay acts are disgusting and nasty, and unclean. God says men who lie with men for unnatural purposes, murderers, liars, fornicators, adulterers will not inherit his kingdom. So if you are regularly practicing these things without repentence, you should already know what’s up on judgement day, make being gay/lesbian sound pretty cute and harmless if you like, but God has already sounded off on this issue. So if gay people don’t change this unnatural, ungodly lifestyle, you will not be in god’s favor.

AND I’M NOT JUDGING ANYONE, THIS IS WHAT GOD SAID TO EVERYONE IN THE BIBLE…I AM MERELY THE WORDS OF THE SCRIPTURES….IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WHAT WAS SAID, PLEASE GO TO GOD IN PRAYER AND TAKE THAT UP WITH HIM….SURE HE’LL SET YOU STRAIGHT.

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jscene

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

Correction TO 164

** I AM MERELY REPEATING THE WORDS TO THE SCRIPTURES IN WHICH GOD HAS SAID WHAT THE EVENTUALITY WILL BE OF PEOPLE WHO PRACTICE A GAY OR HOMOSEXUAL LIFESTYLE***

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sassysexychick

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

SPEAK YOUR TRUTH BABY BOY! 100% IN AGREEANCE

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West Virginian Black Women Tortured and Raped by White Family « Pop Gumbo

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

[...] fake rapper Ja-Rule seems to think that it is gays and MTV that are ruining America. No, I think hate is doing a fine job ruining America all by itself. [...]

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4Real

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

159 I couldn’t agree with you anymore. =)

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judah

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

Good for Ja Rule . If he said as much in his raps as he said in that excerpt, he might still be a relevant rap artist. The people that support homosexuality only support it because either they’re homosexual, one of their friends or relatives are, or because the white man said that it’s not illegal. If homosexuality was outlawed in America, their would be no discussion or debate. I always find it funny how defensive “open-minded” people get when someone refutes their opinion. It’s alright for you to agree with homosexuality but it’s not alright for someone else to disagree, lol. In other words you can be open-minded, as long as everyone’s mind is opened in the same direction. Definitely don’t refer to the Bible. All hell will break loose then, and that from the “believers”.

See, the reason why black men get no respect is because brothers act like they stand for something and at the same time, they don’t want to offend anybody. That’s not possible. If you speak the absolute truth or honesty in any way, people will be offended. You’re supposed to welcome that disagreement because that’s when the true spirit within a person comes out. People holler about the lack of “real black men”, but as soon as a brother voices his true feelings (i.e. Polow Da Don or Ja Rule), there is a backlash. The only thing this does is encourage mental weakness.

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PLZ

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

Anon - I hear you and you have some good points. But you are putting way to much responsibility on Hip Hop. That responsibilty lies soley on the parents. I had alot of influences growing up ..but I knew based on my upbringing what was right and wrong. Too many kids aren’t shown any attention at home and go seek it. You mentioned the man…you cant be serious with that comment. They sign them because Hip Hop is the ish right now..you know how many millions these corporate giants make off these artists. I feel Hip Hop has provided alot to many we see and many we dont see. I’m a huge Jayz fan …he got his moms out the projects, his sisters all his relatives. He is opening new ventures to create jobs as well. You can’t just jump out there and say Hip Hop did this..but its stated on TV or whatever as a negative. Look at Bill O…all he talks about is negative. Never mentions lets say what Luda has accomplished. Of course there will be knuckle heads out there that send the wrong message but you can’t blame Hip Hop for that. I mean everyone knows now that DMX is on crack…are you seeing youngsters out there smoking crack because of that. NO! And plz look at history overall..Im far from the hood right now in my life but I had a father and mother growing up. You can’t take 500 yrs or more, control the job market, pack us up in projects, bring crack into our communities but arrest only the blacks that sell to get by in the hood. If you lose focus of that then you are truly lost. People need to understand this..not everyone is going to come out of the projects like say a Jayz or Pac. Celebrating ignorance is stupid..I agree too. But you can’t say Hip Hop is the blame for everything..And back to the gay thing..once again Im not against people that do it. But just like a Hip Hop star can go on TV/CD and talk drugs, N word, hoes, Bs etc And now that Imus got busted its all Hip Hops fault…but next thing you know you have MTV airing gay shows. So what Im saying is alot of the MTV crowd whether you believe it or not is very impressionable. So what if you have a guy who might think he is gay…is messing with chicks for now but then growing up sees this show like ok MTV is showing and doing it like its ok. He may finally see there are still issues with this topic (prejudice, attacks, family disowning you)…might just decide to go back to women. That my friend is only causing more cases of HIV & AIDS….if that individual is not taking care of himself and his partner. Kanye West made a comment about gays and Hip Hop…I dont see youngsters backing him just cuz he made a comment. So its up to that individual on what they want to do. I brought KW up cuz he is dueto have a huge selling week on his 3rd album. I would say he has some type of influence!

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Jeany

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

haha white people said that black on tv were bad influence too. and yall are mad about gays? HYPOCRITES IN OUR COMMUNITY IS REALLY HILARIOUS.

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Fudge

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

This is what we need from our rappers, more truth and less lies
Ja has a good point and we as people better open our third eye to the fabric that is being destroyed in “Amerikkka” entities like MTV, where they have shows where kids are blantly disrespecting adults and same sex situations are the norm.
These images like it not are shaping our kids, just as we where shaped by TV’s coming up. I can appreciate Ja Rule for keep it real.

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AIJUSWANNASAY

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

MY TWO CENT:

GAY IS A PERPETUATED LIE. YEAH YOU CAN FEEL THAT WAY BUT DO YOU GOTTA ACT ON THAT, LIKE GET DOWN W/ ANOTHER DUDE???

PLUS AINT BEING GAY ONLY ABOUT ACTIN OUT YOUR LUST, BLUNTLY STATING, PUTTIN YOUR DICK IN A MAN’S ASS OR IN HIS MOUTH??? REALLY THAT’S ALL IT DOES COME DOWN TO, ACTIN ON SEXUAL LUST. SOMETHING WICH YOU CAN SEPERATE YOURSELF FROM.

YEAH JA NEED TO CLEAN UP HIS LYRICS BEFORE HE POINTS FINGERS, BUT I AM NOT MAD AT HIM FOR “BEING A PARENT.” IF YOU CRITICIZE MUSIC THEN YOU GOTTA GET ON THE FILM PRODUCTION COMPANIES TO.

^^^^^^ I THOUGHT I WAS DONE UNTIL I READ ABOVE ABOUT SEXUAL ABUSE. THAT’S ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS I SAY GAY IS A LIE. SOMETHING HAPPENS IN SOMEONE’S CHILDHOOD THAT SHOULDN’T HAVE AND NOW THAT PERSON HAS TO THINK W/ A REARRANGED MIND, THINKIN IT’S OKAY TO BE GAY. HOMOSEXUALITY FOSTERS ABUSE.

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kmniles

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

#159 I also knew a person who was gay, came out of the closet only to be cast aside like yeaterdays newspaper. He too tried to ask the Lord for understanding but it came to late and he hung himself.

This is why I cannot agree when people says it’s a choice as if they can turn it on or off like a switch. Why would a person choose a road full of constant scrutiny and risk exile from one’s family? It doesn’t make sense. People actually think that humans are walking chameleons that can control or morph themselves into whatever they see fit and that just isn’t the case with everything. We have evolved to the point that we think we can control anything and everything that we come in contact with. We are creatures that inhabit the Earth just like the million of other species we trample over, destroy selfishly and hold little regard for. The sooner we realise that homosexuality is a part of nature, the easier it will be for us to live our own lives.

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judah

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

Enough already. Any degenerate claims to not be able to control their behavior. It’s a question of legality with the supporters of homosexuality. Simple as that. Rapists, serial murderers, pedophiles, etc. all claim to have psychoses that they cannot control and people are ready to throw them under the bus because it’s illegal. If someone said that Michael Vick had an uncontrollable urge to fight dogs, they’d be laughed, ridiculed, and castigated off the damn thread because according to the laws of the land it’s ILLEGAL. A topic like this is dicey because homosexuality is not illegal in America, or most territories dominated by caucasians, so thusly moralistic aspects enter and the fact of the matter is that everyone does not share the same morals. This is why people get tight when the Bible is brought up because it’s like an anvil hung around people’s neck whenever they’re not referring to their infamous “love” scriptures, taken out of context.

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That's Wassup

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

@169 Nicely said

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kmniles

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

@169 Judah

I see where you’re going, but to be honest most people here don’t have an issue with what his personal beliefs are, but more so the fact that he’s putting out music and images that are far from high moral standards. How can Ja be so critical of what MTV displays on tv when they’ve helped him to create his brand of music and identity which in most people’s eyes, do nothing but corrupt the mind of the youth? people are looking a bit deeper than just the gay issue. He’s trying to pretend that he’s on to something that others have overlooked, which is far from the case.

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Tammy

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

Judah right on point. Ppl fight urges every damn day .

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soulphlower

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

@164:
I Think I know more adulters, liars and fornicators than I do homosexuals and thats just me. And I believe tv and music put more adultry, lying and fornicating on tv than homosexuality. How many liars and fornicators are posting on this topic right now?

While I am reading I try to take in the whole of what is conveyed in the word not just whats convenient. You don’t have like anyones behavior thats where you can form your opinion. But my argument is why tear people down.

Let ye who is without sin cast the first stone. My argument is no one should be in here throwing stones.

I don’t have to go to God in Prayer about the word because I am not questioning it. I didn’t go against anyone using the bible as a tool against homosexuals. I didn’t state rather I believed it is right or wrong. My statement was to say that if you are going use the bible to say it is wrong to be a homosexual then remember it also says not to judge.

@163:
I understand this…thats why it is the job of those that fel the way I do to pass that energy on. If no one ever voiced the need for civility we would still be disenfranchised. I am siply following my spirit.

My intention is peace. And letting people live their lives. And if you have faith in God he will take care of the rest. If you are going to stand against something, stand against hate. Promote humility and humanity.

Be Peace!

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judah

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

@177

Brother, if it’s a publicity stunt, then it’s a publicity stunt. That would be nothing new or out of sort for Ja Rule or for anyone else in the entertainment industry. I take very little of what entertainers say seriously. He got himself locked up with Lil Wayne on that bogus gun charge. I’m inclined to believe that his response to the interviewer was genuine because he was asked a question and gave a pertinent anwser. It wasn’t like the man asked him about his album and he just screamed out, “…BUT WHAT ABOUT THESE DAMN FAGGOTS THO!!!”.

In America, there is a general spirit of confusion so it doesn’t surprise me at all to see people contradict themselves mid-thought. Allegedly, Ja Rule was or is bisexual bisexual himself. I could care less, that’s his business. My point being is that when people allow mankind’s opinion to govern their own morality, it will constantly be in a state of flux, constantly changing, because the opinions of people change based on outside stimuli like television, like radio, etc. The topic of homosexuality would never have been discussed as something relevant 20 years ago because it was taboo. Now what the underlying force behind these cultural movements are, is based on what you believe, whether it be happenstance or Satan.

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koolhand79

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

SPEAK ON IT JA!!!! You got all of america reppin homosexuality everywhere u look but hiphop is the only problem we talk about. and as far as 50, ja has always been a better artist and rapper, 50 just was relentless in destroying his career.

182.

THE-GRIND-THEORY

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

yeah MTV is fukkin goin crazy wit all their lil relaity TV shows showin Gay shyt that shyt is not fun to watch… WTF…. Oh and by the Way Who is…….. JA-Rule

183.

Every one needs to change for the better

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

Well done #164. I believe judging is different from telling the truth.

184.

Every one needs to change for the better

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

Well done #164. I believe judging is different from telling the truth, so all the people saying we are judging should read what we are saying properly.

185.

Monikers

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

A lot of you bitches got some nerve.
Y’all m’fuckas were up in arms when you heard what Don Imus said about black women. Flip out if anyone outside your race says anything negative about it.
Yet, y’all can come on here and spread your ignorance about gays and homosexuals? Shut that shit up.

186.

velvetj

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

I have always found it intersting that most people who believe being gay is a choice, are straight. Most gay people with tell you they did not choose to be that way and I would guess that if anyone should know, it should be gay people.

I do not believe homosexuality is God’s will or best, however I do think through man’s sin we are all born with certain “bents” or weaknesses to particular things. And those who don’t have a particular “bent” throw rocks at other people’s “bents” and judge them. So if I have a bent to alcohol, it’s easy for me to point the finger at the drug addict. If I have no problem with gambling, it’s easy for those who don’t gamble to pick up a rock to throw, but they themselves can’t stop gossipping about people. Oral sex is only a sin if homosexuals do it. Pre-marital sex is only as sin if homosexuals do it. Living together is only sin if homosexuals do it. Masturbation is only a sin if homosexuals do it. Homosexuality is cool but only if it’s two women. We need to all check our hypocritical selves. We as people need to stop judging people on “sins” we personally have no interest in.

JaRule need to check himself. And furthermore MTV IS POISON AND HAS BEEN SINCE THE EARLY 90′S.

187.

Every one needs to change for the better

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

#186 I understand you to a point, cos no one ever said oral sex is only a sin if homosexuals do it. Pre-marital sex is only as sin if homosexuals do it. Living together is only sin if homosexuals do it. Masturbation is only a sin if homosexuals do it. Homosexuality is cool but only if it’s two women. Yes pre-marital sex and masturbation, and homosexuality are sins, but from what I read in the bible, the body’s desires can be overcomed and I definately believe that from past experiences, I am not and was never gay, just some other issues.

And yes I do believe we may be born with some certain ‘bents or weaknesses’ or developed them as we were growing up, but at the end of the day, if you are a believer, which I encourage everyone to be, it’s all about pleasing God at the end of the day. Right?

188.

Tammy

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

So we shouldn’t speak how we feel about “gays” because we all sin ? If that’s the cause this entire blog should have 0 comments. This thread is ridiculous . The “gay” movement ain’t no joke .

189.

bambam

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

Such pseudo prosteletyzing!

190.

audra

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

I agree with Ja All this Homo promo stuff is annoying

191.

Every one needs to change for the better

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

Ofcourse we can speak about gays or anything that may be happening in the world.

192.

judah

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

@186

No disrespect to you, but why is it that when someone makes an observation, people call it a judgement? A judgement is an enforced ruling. If you were in court you wouldn’t tell the white man in the black robe, “You can’t judge me.”. You would stay in your damn place, respect the ruling, and beg for leniency. You’re going into your own personal philosophy on how you view the homosexual issue, as did Ja Rule, and that’s fine because that is your right. At the same time, I notice that “open-minded” people try to cleave onto that term “judgement” or “ignorant” whenever someone disagrees with them.

When Christ protected the harlot and he said, “He who has not sinned, cast the first stone”. That wasn’t a figure of speech, that was because those cats were literally going to stone her. After Christ confounded them and the men left, Christ didn’t tell the sister “Do you, cuz no one can judge you.”. He said go and sin no more (John 8:1-11). People take a literal story in the Bible and try to turn it into a figure of speech so that they can feel guilt free to satisfy their own lusts. No one is perfect, the only thing is that people need to be held accountable for their actions and they should thank someone who corrects them when they go the hell off. When you have that, “no one can judge me” mentality, what you’re really saying is that no one can tell you a damn thing unless your judged in a court of law. Then black people wonder why the moral standards are so low in the black community and the white man’s police force is so disdainful. Black people don’t even have the discipline to police themselves or each other.

193.

judah

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

@189

Expound please, lol.

194.

Every one needs to change for the better

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

#192 I agree.

195.

Tammy

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

Judah, thank you . I mean damn , we talk about everything else on this blog but the time someone don’t agree with others, here they come with the “you can’t judge” . If they really feel that way we shouldn’t say a damn thing about anybody posted on this blog not just homosexuals/lesbians. Give me a break !

196.

That's Wassup

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

Judah for President!!

197.

The Day of the Gichi Is Over

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

I agree with what Ja said about MTV. I don’t why some people are upset about that, he doesn’t want his children exposed that stuff on TV, what’s the problem?

198.

Ms dymomite

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

You all are crazy, JaRule is an idiot. Two gay men kissing on MTV is not what is making society worse. Why shouldnt they be able to kiss, if you’re allowed to call a woman a bitch or a ho and talk about how you want to put your dick down a woman’s mouth. That’s the type of things he talks about, but two men kissing on MTV is messing up America? Bitch please. Thats why your ass is irrelevant.

199.

Ms dymomite

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

OMG if my little brother or sister sees two men are kissing *gasp* in public or on tv, its totally going to SCAR them for the rest of their life, because its just so hard to explain that there are some people are attracted to the same sex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111 /sarcasm

200.

velvetj

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

#187, I know no one ever SAID those things on this thread. I used those as examples to how society, PARTICULARLY black people, use homosexuals as being the worst. Let’s be honest here. For the most part, people view homosexuality as the worst possible sin. Homosexuality is judged harder in the black community than other sins. There is a elevated level of judgement/desire to inform them about their sins, and it’s because that is something that most people do not struggle with. Sin is sin, but whether it is admitted to or not, there is a bias against homosexuality that other sins do not get. That is evident in JaRules case, which is why he can be called a hypocrite. Here you have Ja “MURRRRRRDAAAAAHHHHHHH” rule, trying to point out a particular sin on MTV, when he is spreading/has spread just as much sin to other people’s children.

In my eyes, the homosexual is no worse than the heterosexual who has pre-marital sex. Poster # 192 (Judah) I certainly hope you view it the same. Can it be said that most people feel that way. NO!

The one thing I loved about Pope John Paul ll as well as my own pastor, they were/are consistent. They were against homosexuality AND abortion. They were against alcohol AND gossiping. They were against lying AND premarital sex. They were against overeating AND pornography. They were against using profanity AND playing lotto. They believed the body’s desire for homosexual acts could be overcome AND the body’s desire for masturbation.

I stand by my belief that people unfairly judge particular sins they personally have no desire or interest in, and in the case of homosexuality, it is done so at a elevated level.

201.

Every one needs to change for the better

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

#200 Yeah thats right, sin is sin, but the reason why homosexuality is empahised on more in my opinion is because it is disgusting to us guyz and I guess even ladies! It’s just not understandable man! And what I will always say is that anything can be overcomed, especially if you put your mind to it.

202.

AIJUSWANNASAY

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

@ JUDAH

ONCE AGAIN I SEE YOU COMING THROUGH W/ THAT TRUTH…

BRO I HOPE, I JUST HOPE THAT YOU WORKIN ON SOMETHIN TO BE PUBLISHED FOR THE MASSES, OUTSIDE OF THE LOOP, WHICH IS COOL, CAUSE I’M GETTIN FED, BUT YOU GOT TO MUCH TO JUST CONTAIN IT INSIDE A GOSSIP BLOG…YOU KNOW

203.

Every one needs to change for the better

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

I agree with #202

204.

velvetj

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

# 201, I would say most people feel like you in they just don’t understand it and find it disgusting, which is what I believe is a factor in most heterosexuals believeing homosexuality is a choice, while most homosexuals conistently tell them it is not.

*note*- I do not believe celibacy means a person is no longer homosexual.

I’m not condoning anything here. All I’m saying is at the end of the day, JaRule really is in no place to be reprimanding MTV for spreading “sin” to kids, when he is just as guilty.

205.

HOTT

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

@VELVETJ I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE GETTING AT AS FAR AS SIN GOES BUT WHY ARE YOU ON A GOSSIP BLOG ? WOULD IT BE FAIR TO CALL YOU A HYPOCRITE? ITS DISGUSTING AND UNNATURAL FOR MEN/MEN WOMEN/WOMEN RELATIONSHIPS ,PERIOD. JUST GO AHEAD AND SAY YOU SUPPORT THE GAY COMMUNITY AND STOP WASTING TIME.

206.

Ms dymomite

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

Puleeze. I am a straight female but I really dont understand why people find it disgusting that two people of the same sex fall in love, particularly men. Who cares? Usually people who say they are against it say it to hide the fact that they are sexually confused. Especially men. Thats why you see all these senators who are voting against gay marriage and gay adoption and anything to do with homosexuality caught trying to sleep/or actually sleeping with men on the low. Thats why you see all these preachers who preach against homosexuality and then go to their gay lovers in the middle of the night and get caught. The ones that protest homosexuality the loudest and act all “ewww so uN-NatuRal!!!” are the ones Im usually suspect of the most of being gay to be honest.

That said, Ja Rule is probably gay :D

207.

Ms dymomite

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

or bi

208.

HOTT

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

@ 206 YOU MADE NO SENSE AT ALL . SO IF I DISLIKE A CHILD MOLESTORS LIFESTYLE DOES THAT MEAN I WANT TO BE ONE ? IF I DISLIKE A ROCKSTARS COKE PARTIES AND BOOZE TRIPS , DOES THAT MEAN I WANT TO BE ONE? YOUR POINT WAS INVALID AND CHILDISH TRY AGAIN.

209.

Every one needs to change for the better

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

#206 You don’t know what you are saying. The things about the pastors being gay or whatever thats urs and their issue. People shouldn’t live by their pastor’s example, they should live by the Word of God or the bible. Im sorry but that stuff you were saying about ‘Usually people who say they are against it say it to hide the fact that they are sexually confused’, I’m sorry but that is bull#@*&. In your comment it shows your generalizing or stereotyping maybe from experience or common making up, and to me that is judging. Don’t be ignorant. I ain’t cussing nobody, and I’m not cussing you.

210.

Ms dymomite

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

so two men who love eachother is the same as a child molestor? Are you equating the two….seriously that’s sad. And I’m sorry it doesnt make sense to you, I dont know why, but it does make sense. Sorry, when I see people act overdramatic and hyper-disgusted by homosexuality it makes me suspect them. Maybe you dont, but I do. There are soooo many people who are homophobic in public but homosexual in private.

Dont be ignorant? Acting like two men kissing on tv is worse than a man telling a woman to get on the floor and ‘jiggle dat ass bitch, while i skeet on yo back’ is a lot worse. Anyone equating homosexuality with the downfall of society is the ignorant one.

211.

HOTT

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

@ 210 IM NOT COMPARING THE TWO PER SE BUT WHAT I TOOK FROM YOUR POST IS THINGS YOU DO NOT APPROVE OF (GAYS LIFESTYLE… CHILD MOLESTERS.. SO FORTH AND SO ON ) ARE USUALLY SOMETHING YOU WANT TO BE . AS I SAID EARLIER YOUR POINT WAS VERY WEAK AND YOU NEED TO TRY AGIAN . YOU ARE DEBATING WITH OTHER POSTERS WHO ARE NOT EVEN SAYING THE GAY COMMUNITY IS A DOWNFALL TO SOCIETY . WE ARE SIMPLY SAYING ITS DISGUSTING AND AND UNNATURAL SO IS ANY WOMEN WHO DEGRADE HERSELF. SO AGAIN TRY AGAIN . IF YOU’RE GAY JUST SAY THAT AND STOP WASTING TIME

212.

Every one needs to change for the better

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

Whatever man!

213.

Every one needs to change for the better

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

The ‘whatever man’ was for #210.

214.

That's Wassup

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

What I want to know is why when people disagree with homosexuality then that means that immediately they must be homophobic, because they believe that is unnatural and and wrong and will not accept it. That is the only issue that when people state it’s wrong oh u must be gay or judging blah blah. If you believe stealing is wrong and will not accept that as right are you a homothief (of course i know it’s not a word however, hopefully you get my point!)

215.

Every one needs to change for the better

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

Real talk #214

216.

Ms dymomite

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

And I think its rediculous argument that little kids being exposed to two men or two women kissing is wrong. I saw two men kissing before in the park and asked my mom about it. And she said to me ‘they are gay. that means they are both men but love eachother like your daddy and me.’ And it was that simple. I didnt think about it anymore, I wasnt scarred by seeing it, and I wasnt “turned a homosexual” by seeing two men kiss at a young age. I saw it and moved on. She didnt make a big deal about it and I think thats good.

217.

Ms dymomite

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

@211, why is it that if I don’t think being gay is unnatural or disgusting, that automatically makes me gay? I am female attracted to males. But do I care if a male is attracted to a male? No. Do I even care at all? Nope.

218.

Every one needs to change for the better

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

#216 Its not that seeing it will turn a child into a homosexual, the FACT is that children are very easily influenced. And yes parents should teach their child what is right and wrong, but who knows the battle of thoughts that may be going through the child’s mind when you tell him/her homosexuality is wrong, and then the child sees it all the time. Especially if it is a boy. Anyway I just think it is wrong, just like any other bad thing is wrong. I’m not saying it is the wrongest thing in the world, all bad things are equal aite?!

219.

Ms dymomite

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

oops I mean do I even care at all if a female is attracted to another female. Nope*

220.

HOTT

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

@216 YOU ARE NOT EVERY CHILD IN THE WORLD SWEETIE. EVERYONE IS DIFFRENT . JUST BECAUSE YOU WERE NOT AFFECTED WHOS TO SAY ANOTHER CHILD WONT BE . I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE YOUR MOTHER TOLD YOU JUST THAT AND NO MORE QUESTIONS WERE ASKED. STOP TRYING TO MAKE PEOPLE SEE THE “OKAY” IN BEING GAY BECAUSE ITS WRONG! YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF JUST LIKE A FEW OTHER BLOGGERS.

221.

HOTT

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

@217 WHY BECAUSE I THINK ITS DISGUSTING MAKES ME GAY ? THIS IS TOO EASY WITH YOU LOL

222.

Every one needs to change for the better

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

Like I said before, Adam and Eve were first created, not Adam and Steve, or Eve and Shaniqua!

223.

Ms dymomite

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

@218, if you don’t believe homosexuality is right than thats just your opinion. I dont think being gay is wrong, but thats just my opinion. My opinion is that if a child sees a homosexual kiss in public or whatever, they would not care or think about it that much if we didnt make a big deal about it and just explained that some men fall in love with other men and women in love with other women at a young age. I mean, thats just a fact of life lol. Children may be easily influenced, but a child isnt going to become gay by seeing two gay people on tv or in public. If your child grows up and tells you they are gay its not going to be the media’s fault or seeing some gay people hold hands in a store… no one’s sexuality is gonna be changed that simply. If a young boy is straight then a young boy seeing two gay men isnt going to change his straightness lol.

224.

Ms dymomite

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

@220, you are obviously too immature to have a discussion with. Not every heterosexual has to find homosexuality repulsive or offensive. No I am not gay, but if thats the only thing you can use, well go ahead I guess. And if a child’s is sexuality affected by seeing two gay men kiss then that child was never straight in the first place, “sweetie.”

225.

Every one needs to change for the better

Thursday, September 13, 2007 /

#223 If a child sees two dudes kissing and it is not adressed, tell me if that child ain’t gonna think it’s cool. Like I said children should be taught what is right man! And a young boy seeing a gay couple ain’t gonna change because he has passed the easy influenced stage man! Anyway if you’ve got morals (I ain’t judging you or cussing you) then you will know what I’m talking about. From what i see, all what gay and lesbian couples want is sex anyway.

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