@223 OMG YOU REALLY DON’T THINK TELEVISION HAS THAT MUCH INFLUENCE ON PEOPLE? ARE YOU LIVING IN A CAVE? GO DO SOME RESEARCH ON HIGHSCHOOLS THE NUMBER OF GAY TEENS MAY SHOCK YOU . IT COMES FROM TELEVISION SHOWS PROMOTING IT LIKE ITS A NORM . HALF OF THE TEENS TODAY ARE CONFUSED THEY DON’T KNOW IF THEY WANT TO BE WITH A MALE OR FEMALE. TELEVISION GLORIFY THIS MESS THATS WHY THEY THINK ITS “COOL”. YOU ARE SO LOST MISS.

HAHA ME AND #225 ARE ON THE SAME PAGE. I DONT GET WHY ITS SO HARD FOR PEOPLE TO GRASP THAT MAN .

#224 I don’t agree with your statement that ‘And if a child’s is sexuality affected by seeing two gay men kiss then that child was never straight in the first place’. Hell naw! Lets move away from this homo stuff for a minute. Part of the reason why crime has increased is partly to do with the availability of scenes of crime in stuff like video games, or rap videos and whatever, and childrens role models which could be the rappers or whatever. As for me, I play video games and stuff and listen to rap, but all I know is that I know what is right and wrong, and right now and forever, nothing I know is bad can INFLUENCE me to commit to it’s actions.

@224 DONT GET MAD AT ME BECAUSE YOU PUT YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH. YOU WERE THE ONE WHO CAME INTO THIS THREAD BASICALLY SAYING IF YOU FIND HOMOSEXUALITY OFFENSIVE YOU ARE SEXUALLY CONFUSED. I ASKED YOU THE SAME THING YOU ASKED ME SWEETIE. IMMATURE ? HAHA THATS LAUGHABLE YOU’RE A GROWN ASS WOMAN WHO DON’T HAVE ENOUGH SENSE TO KNOW TELEVISION AFFECTS THE WAY PEOPLE THINK . I DISGRESS

@225, one of my best male friend is gay and is dating another guy and they actually do love each other; you can obviously tell. And tell me how many gay and lesbian couples are you around that you can generalize and say all they want is sex? I know plenty of heterosexual males who have only wanted to get with me simply for sex, so dont make it seem like straight men don’t do the same a lot of the time too. If a child sees two dudes kissing, they may very well think its ok, but that doesnt mean that the child is going to grow up to be gay himself because he saw two dudes kissing. If the child is straight, that won’t matter. If the child is gay then seeing two gay men kissing in public or not is not going to make a difference.

@229 that is the most rediculous thing I’ve ever heard. People do not become gay because they saw it on TV. There were gay people before TV was created; there have been gay people since the beginning. Yes, crime you see on TV and it is affecting teens. But the fact that a boy only gets an erection from seeing another boy is biological; it has nothing to do with seeing a lot of gay men on tv.

#230 Firstly I’m not generalizing gay people, but what I’m saying is that the kinda life of promiscuosity and immorality I don’t like. I’m not saying it is alright for a straight dude to do that, and never said so. Just like I don’t agree with rappers calling girl’s hoes and whatnot, but hey, if you are, then you are (not refering to you). But what I’m is clearly stated in my previous comments. I don’t think anyone will understand if you don’t understand morality and good stuff like that.

@ 231 SERIOUSLY YOU HAVE A COMPREHENSION PROBLEM . I SAID THE GLORIFICATION OF BEING GAY MAKES TEENAGERS THINK ITS “COOL” . THATS WHY WE HAVE SO MANY TEENS CLAIMING TO BE GAY .. THAT COMES FROM THE EFFECTS OF TELEVISION . I FEEL LIKE IM TALKING TO A CHILD .. ….. AT THE END OF THE DAY YOU HAVE YOUR OPINION AND I HAVE MINES ILL LEAVE IT AT THAT …GOSHHHHH

#231 It is very possible that people may become gay if they see it on the television. I don’t know how, but situations may lead them into that. e.g. I don’t know maybe bad previous relationships with the opposite sex. I don’t know man! Like they say, if you meditate on something, it eventually goes into your spirit and that is what makes you who you are. If you believe in something, and you stand up for something for example, that is basically who you become if you understand what I mean.

Every one needs to change for the better: I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU’RE COMING FROM .

I agree with #233.

Thank you #235

@233, you are the one with a comprehension problem. Seriously, it is not hard to understand. I grew up seeing homosexuality on MTV and tv. It didnt make me become lesbian. I do not know of any guys who turned gay because they saw it on MTV. In my experience, the girls who would kiss or whatever because of TV do it either because they were always bi-curious anyway or they do it to turn on guys. Gay guys still face harrassment in high school. Tell me why anyone would choose that. There are people who put their kids out for telling them that they are gay. Do you think thats right? Fucking 13 different girls and having 7 baby mamas is ok, but if a guy tells their parents he’s gay, THATS grounds for kicking him out on the curb. I saw a story on CNN just the other day of this boy who was forced to live on the street because his father learned he was gay. It’s so sad.

#238 Ur missing the point. There is no generalizing in this topic. If you didn’t get influenced like I did, thats fine. But all I know is, is that there definately some people in this world that would be. Those who are ignorant, maybe immmature minded and the immature, those who don’t stand up for anything and can be decieved by anything, and those who don’t have morals. There are many other reasons for people to turn gay.

People don’t just become gay on a whim. They are born that way. If you take a human sexuality course you would know that sexuality cannot be influenced just that simply as seeing gay people on tv. There were gay people back in the 50s when homosexuality was a taboo subject. Michaelangelo was gay; it wasnt because he saw it on TV. Eleanor Roosevelt was gay; it wasnt because she saw some gay woman on tv, its because thats just who she is. I believe you are born gay or straight or bi. But thats just my opinion.

Like I said if you don’t stand up for something, you can easily be decieved, or if you believe in something and meditate on it or whatever, it becomes who you are. I don’t kow but certain feelings may be taken the wrong way.

For example, a child may be told in school that if he doesn’t have sex, it means he’s gay. And the students may start teasing him for that. If he is not yet developed to start having sex or whatever and he doesn’t have sex, he may start thinkin in his mind that he is gay, which leads to him starting to act gay and then eventually become one.

Peopel are different, Im not saying that is how it happens to all gays, but I don’t and will never believe anybody is born gay. Can you say someone is born a killer, or a thief or whatnot? Hell no!

@ 238 YOU MISSED THE WHOLE POINT! OKAY, SO YOUNG LADIES CAN LOOK AT BET AND SEE HALF NAKED WOMEN SHAKING THEIR ASSES . WHAT IF THEY WANT TO HAVE A BODY LIKE THAT AND BE LIKE THEM . DOES THAT MEAN SHE ALWAYS WANTED TO BE A VIDEO HOE ? IM JUST TRYING TO GET YOU TO UNDERSTAND TELEVISION DO INDEED HAVE AN EFFECT ON THE WAY PEOPLE VEIW THINGS . YOU ARE EITHER REALLY OLD OR OUT OF THE LOOP . GAY MEN ARE THE MOST EMBRACED NOW-A-DAYS. BEING GAY IN HIGHSCHOOL IS TOTALLY A NORM HONEY. AND WHY DO YOU KEEP BRINGING UP FUCKING AND HAVING A BUNCH OF KIDS ? NO ,ITS NOT OKAY AND ON THAT TOPIC OF DISCUSSION I WILL STATE THAT BUT RIGHT NOW WE ARE TALKING HOMOSEXUALS. IM OUT FOR REAL THIS TIME . IM TALKING TO A BRICK WALL

OH ANOTHER THING MS DYNOMITE OF COURSE IT DOESN’T APPLY TO EVERYONE ,THATS WITH ANYTHING . PLEASE UNDERSTAND IM NOT SAYING TELEVISION TURNS EVERYONE INTO A HOMOSEXUAL THAT RIDICULOUS. TELEVISION CONFUSE A LOT OF TEENS INTO THINKING GAY IS “COOL” AND THEY WANT TO EXPERIMENT AND I THINK THATS WHAT JARULE WAS GETTING AT. OK IM DONE RAMBLING

Noww I know I aint chatting rubbish.

Um, gay people may be a lot more accepted now, but they still face the reality of people like you who feel that the simple fact that they are attracted to the same sex and are being who they are and cannot help that, is “disgusting” “unnatural” and “sinful.”

If homosexuality is so accepted then why do men go on the DL? It’s because of the exact attitutde that everyone who calls homosexuality “sinful” perpetuate. The man who exposed going on the DL has said that the reason that men DO go on the DL is because of negative attitudes (especially in the black community) about homosexuality. They feel they cannot come out because they are looked down upon. So what do they do? They get married, have kids, and live a pretend happy life knowing that they are living a lie. They are homosexual, but because of the stigma, they are forced to keep it secret. So they resort to sleeping with men in secret without their wife and kids knowing. And its all because they feel if they say they are gay they will be judged as being in a so called “sinful lifestyle.”

@245 NO , THEY GO ON THE DL BECAUSE THEY KNOW ITS WRONG TO SLEEP WITH OTHER MEN. THEY SHOULD FEEL ASHAMED .YOUR RECTUM WAS NOT CREATED FOR SOMETHING TO GO INSIDE OF IT IT WAS MADE FOR WASTE TO COME OUT ! ITS BECAUSE THEY ARE LUSTFUL . LISTEN TO WHAT YOU SAID “SLEEP WITH OTHER MEN” . YOU CAN LIVE WITH A WOMEN AND PROCREATE WIH HER BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PENIS IN YOUR MOUTH AND RECTUM AT SOME POINT ,THATS NOTHING BUT PURE LUST ! IM BOTHERED A LOT OF OUR RACE DONT SEE THAT. MOST DL MEN LIKE MALES FOR SEXUAL PLEASURE NOT FOR A RELATIONSHIP .

50 did not end his career. People were already tired of Ja before 50 came out. 50 cent was just the one to zip the bag, but Ja Rule’s career was dying long before 50 Cent.

If they go on the DL only because they are lustful why arent they out there cheating with a bunch of women then? No, its because THEY ARE GAY, not because “they are lustful.” And I thought you were done? Anyway, everyone knows that black people are especially critical of homosexuality for whatever reason, who knows. Personally, I love gay guys…they’re so happy a lot of the time and many have good taste :).

Also, if people find pleasure in having anal sex, who are you to judge that? Why do you care what goes on in the bedroom of another person anyway that it bothers you? Im guessing in your opinion, sex is only for procreation…?

And also:
@245 NO , THEY GO ON THE DL BECAUSE THEY KNOW ITS WRONG TO SLEEP WITH OTHER MEN. THEY SHOULD FEEL ASHAMED .

Well that just proves my point doesn’t it? There are a lot of people who feel like that and it kind of goes agains the whole “gay people are the most accepted people” thing, doesnt it? And I dont understand how anyone finds it hard to understand why people are gay secretly when there are people like you who have such a strong dislike for what goes on in the bedrooms of people you dont even know.

@179 SOULPOWER WHO WROTE:

I Think I know more adulters, liars and fornicators than I do homosexuals and thats just me. And I believe tv and music put more adultry, lying and fornicating on tv than homosexuality. How many liars and fornicators are posting on this topic right now?

While I am reading I try to take in the whole of what is conveyed in the word not just whats convenient. You don’t have like anyones behavior thats where you can form your opinion. But my argument is why tear people down.

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How is what i said considered “tearing people down.” I’m sorry, but that’s why i added that little verbage at the end which states i am not judging, just simply quoting scriptures from the bible. And excuse me, but don’t the bible says to “go therefore and preach the word.” You’re suppose to share with your neighbor what you learn from the bible…but according to what you are saying, i shouldn’t be repeating the words of the bible “cause that judging.” What you said just supports what the devil would want, for people to not know God and what he expects of us, so that we can lose God’s favor and not be on the right road….the bible is not a novelty item for your intrigue, it’s a book inspired by God to help us navigate through these terrible times, a way to draw close to God, to understand our purpose in life, to correct our thinking and behavior, provide us with values and morals, and so that we know right from wrong; it’s suppose to be our base. It’s not simply a cocktail table ornament, or something we can pick up to amuse ourselves.

WOW, THERE’S SUCH IGNORANCE ON HERE I CAN’T BEGAN TO REALLY RESPOND… PLEASE GRAB YOUR DICTIONARY AND LOOK UNDER JUDGING, AND TELL ME WHAT IT SAYS, BECAUSE AT LAST CHECK, RECITING SCRIPTURES IS NOT CONSIDERED JUDGING.

Just for the record, God’s words are not emotional, it is what it is…HIS WORD OR RULES DOES NOT CHANGE JUST BECAUSE THE TIMES HAVE CHANGED….Man’s laws are fickle and imperfect and changes like the wind, God’s laws and his viewpoints have not changed, man’s law says homosexuality is okay, but this doesn’t change God’s position on this subject……so you either chose to follow his rules, or you don’t. But please honey, the excuses are sad…please come better than that.

This topic is always gonna be taboo, its one of those topics people should steer away from, like religion and politics…heterosexuals aren’t homosexual, so they will never understand it, and vice versa (granted their are many who except homosexuality) …personally I try to see both sides of situations, just the kind of person I’ve always been…and I think the issue is sexuality, and violence in the media period not just gays kissing…You have kids out here having sex, 13 year olds and shit having babies, contracting STDs, thats not kosher…lil kids shaking their asses and shit…Fucking children killing each other I mean what the fuck…instead of pointing blame at each other and saying oh being with another man/woman is wrong, or gays are fucking up America, we should be rallying together and setting aside our differences trying to solve the issues, the racism, the prejudice, global warming, the Violence, the diseases, and the poverty together. Because at the end of the day it don’t really matter (and for the other Christians out their yes the bible says its wrong and an abomination, I’m sure they are aware of it, but thats between homosexuals and God, he has the last say)

@179 soulpower who also wrote:

My intention is peace. And letting people live their lives. And if you have faith in God he will take care of the rest. If you are going to stand against something, stand against hate. Promote humility and humanity
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And also, just to correct you, it’s not simply enough to have “faith” and God will do the rest, because the bible says, “Faith without work is dead.” Some people rely on simply believing and knowing God is real, but that’s not enough to acknowledge him, now that you have acknowledged him as your maker, as your head, then now there is work to be done, mainly like i said before, spreading the word to others, helping them come into the light and outta the dark of falsehoods and lies that satan fosters everyday.

I really suggest you spend some time reading your bible…

I just found this thought I’d post a link http://news.nationalgeogr...0510_050510_gayscent.html

@ HOTT & EVERYONE NEEDS TO CHANGE FOR THE BETTER

YOU BOTH DESERVE HONORABLE MENTIONS, YOU GUYS WERE ON FIRE KICKIN THAT KNOWLEDGE…JOB WELL DONE, THOUGH IT MIGHT HAVE FALLEN ON DEAF EARS. BUT HEY, YOU TRIED. 12 SNAPS IN A FREAKIN CIRCLE…LOL

he could’ve said it in a more non-offensive way i guess, but i see where he’s coming from. His kids are young and it’s not really necessary to be exposed to homosexuality right now.

Damn I’m getting tired of all these ignorant-as-hell, lame-ass, non-educated, wannabe philosopher niggas thinking that they can weigh in on shit just because they’ve got a little cash. From Polow Da Don to this fool. Anyway, lemme break this shit down.

As far as his beef with 50 cent….no one gives a shit. 50 killed your career bruh, don’t try to clean it up.

As far as his comments about MTV and homosexuality, ol’ boy is certainly entitled to his opinions. However his argument his flawed and dripping with hypocrisy:

A) Your kids shouldn’t be watching MTV period.

B) Too bad 90% of the sexual stuff shown on MTV still involves heterosexuals. So I guess it’s ok for kids to be exposed to promiscuity and premarital sex that is also promoted on MTV and BET, as long as it doesn’t involve those “nasty gay people” who are the “root of all society’s problems.”

C) Since you wanna go all moral and righteous, you should also be attacking rappers (including your own lame ass) that promote violence and misogyny in their music. Everybody’s saying that what you see on TV can have an effect on you (true). The same goes for what you HEAR in music. So if he’s attacking MTV for “promoting homosexuality”, something he believes is wrong, then he should be attacking rappers, who use foul language and have racy videos full of scantily clad women.

Unless of course he’s like a lot of the Black community, who are morally outraged when it comes to the “disgusting” and “abominable” vice of homosexuality. But when it comes to condemning fornication, violence, materialism, ignorance, teenage pregnancy and colorism, those same black folks who rail against homosexuality suddenly become lukewarm and cautiously critical.

Quite frankly, comments like his are worthless because they are filled with double-standards. I’m not knocking is right to disagree with MTV and the “homosexual lifestyle” that it promotes. However, if he choses to do that, he sure as hell better be disagreeing with hip-hop and all of the vices that IT promotes.

DarkPhoneix

That is exactly my point. I really cannot take much of what he said to heart simply cause he’s totally done the opposite. Instead of being a man and owning up to his own actions he quickly spins it and says that “if he did it, so can I” bullcrap. If this negro were so passionate about jena 6 he could at least use his celebrity to bring the injustice to light (like Mos Def) but instead he’s using it to back this garbage statement.

As far as the gay thing goes…whatever. I bet if a million gays were standing in line to buy his album he’d be grinning from ear to ear.

@202 & 203

First off, thank ya’ll for the compliment. Brothers you know what’s funny? I stumbled onto this blog about a year and a half ago and I find it to be more informative than most of the stories that you find on cnn.com. In addition to that it’s created and owned by black people so it serves almost all my needs. I don’t consider this a “gossip site”; I consider it a current events website and I need to stay current. We black people in general, and black men especially, need to stay current and informed because forces are martialing against us that we need to be aware of at all times. The entertainment industry is the most influential force on our people and one can’t speak on the issues of the black community and not be abreast of what the newest stories are.

In regards to any possible publications, I’ve never thought about anything like that. I know brothers that are but I’m not. I don’t look for attention and when I speak, I give the Lord all the credit. The knowledge of the Most High is not my knowledge, it’s our knowledge, our heritage, and our history in the spirit of the Most High and Christ. This is why, when the Lord chooses you and you apply that gift that the Lord has given you as a black or hispanic man or woman, no one can come against you. Notice, when you have a mastery over the Word, people will see you enter a debate and they’ll scatter because they know that they have no wins. The white man, the other nations, and the wicked of our people hate the Word when it’s spoken in truth because it represents the empowerment of the black man and restoration of order. When this society falls, like it’s already in the rapid process of doing, the only thing that will stand is the Truth and the Lord’s Chosen people with the knowledge of the Truth.

The way that you know that the black man of the captivity must be the Lord’s Chosen is because people are so captivated by him. He’s the most loved, hated, copied, adored, and disdained all at the same time. This is why when the black man speaks strong, he’s hateful, when he speaks against homosexuality, he’s on the down low, when he speaks on the black woman, he ’s a misogynist that hates his mother. Then those same people will say, “Where are all the real black men? Where are the strong black men?” There are so few because they were raised to be scared of any and everything except killing another black man. The intent is to either make the black man succumb to Satan or to ostracize him and thusly make him think that he’s out of his mind. It’s a 3-ring circus. The point of it all is to keep the black man in a massive state of confusion so that he can be used as the piece of meat people believe him to be. There is no America without the black man. He’s the prison system, the entertainment industry, the sports industry, and the number one consumer. He built America for free and he sustains it for free and he better not question the powers that be or the status quo or he’ll be deemed an “excuse-maker”.

Being gay is not a choice. People were born gay or straight, you can’t become gay by watching two man kiss. All gay people did not choose to become gay, they were born that way. It’s okay if you do not accept the lifestyle but know that people did not choose this lifestyle and let them be.. So much ignorance on this site.

Ja Rule saying it’s okay for him to call women bitches and hoes. I wonder what his daughter think or what he would think if someone call his daughter nappy headed ho. Yes there’s bigger issue in the world…world hungry, rapist, murder. We need to solve our own problem before we blame others.

Also if you know someone that’s gay, whether it’s your brother or friend, you will understand that they do not choose to be that way. They did not turn gay because they saw it on TV. Also you should have learn about the X and Y chromosome in college, which explain why Gay men to act feminine.

Seriously all these christian freak get up in arms when it comes to something agaist the bible. You should get a new religion that promote understanding for others. If not, at least understand why religion was created in the first place. There’s no such thing as heaven, it was put in the bible so that people are more comfortable when dealing with death.

You see girl kissing girl at parties, these girl are not lesbian. It’s the same as watching a porno with two straight female in a lesbian scene. It’s pretended, because at the end of the day they will prefer whatever sexuality they were born with.

#250 Ur just not opening your mind to the point I’m trying to prove here. It’s true what #246 said. One of the reasons why they must go on the DL is because they know it’s wrong, but may not knnow how to control it or whatever. Since you wanna talk about the bible and homosexuality being sinful, yes it is a sin and go check your bible. And I dnt know if your into faith or anything, but that is one of the reasons why people stress on homosexuality. I’m also aware that other ’sins’ are being displayed on tv, but you and I know that homosexuality is something that can take over someone’s entire life. All them pimps, or calling girls bitche sor whatever can easily be stopped, but homosexuality may not be easy, and you have to know that.

#257 I believe hip hop, tv, books and whatnot are very influential sources of information. I never once said promiscuosity, pre marital sex is ok, that can be overcomed in a certain way, but homosexuality… I don’t know, but I know that is something that can take over a person’s life.

If I had a son today, that means he was born a man. Therefore he SHOULDN’T be acting like a woman or desire what a woman wants sexually if you understand what I mean. Like I said many times, Adam and Eve were first created, not Adam and Steve or Eve and Shaniqua.

Bringing up kids, especially in the black community is all about bringing them up with morals. I’m not just focusing on homosexuality here.

Lol no wonder Tevin Campbell had to leave music reading some of these comments.

No one is born gay. Thats bull#@&~.

I just read all the comments yall made about ja. if u was rockin wit ja when he was hot then keep rockin wit him. cause the shit he said about mtv is true don’t nobody want see that nasty shit play more videos. I don’t give a damn what nobody say men kissing men is SICK as hell . God made addam and eve not addam and steve. and on the 50 and ja thing man 50 is a coward he do things to promote albums. I’m from the south and u see he aint went no real from the south like LIL WAYNE or the KING

@ JUDAH

Sorry I didn’t hit you back sooner. I’d just left work and when I get home, that time is for me to chill, and i kinda like to leave the “blog stuff” behind lol. In answer to your request to expound, I just think that with regard to some of the obviously intelligent remarks being made here, yourself included, when religion enters the discussion, it seems as if The Bible is used as the final word in all things pertaining to our society. I do believe in The Bible and was raised in a very strict Christian household, but having being trained and having worked in the rehabilitation field (men & women readjusting after prison, drug addiction, HIV/AIDS etc.), I realized that true life experience has added different dimensions to how I approach situations in society.

I’ve found that most situations do not requires a clear cut answer. But they require a combination of components in order to be resolved.

I’ll cut to the chase: Religion is all well and good, but in society in general, there needs to be a balance of those views with law, social and or otherwise. One must also consider research, statistics and facts before drawing a conclusion. So when I say pseudo prosteletyzing, I’m stating that the some of the posts I’ve read here seem to be a bit one-dimensional and judgemental with no regard to other factors or shadings, of which there are many.

I do not deny anyone’s right to express their religious beliefs, and I do think that healthy debate is critical in order for us to move forward as a people. You are by no means a shrinking violet in debate area, as proven here, and a great many young folks who visit this site are sure to learn quite a bit from you and others.

And I learn quite a bit here as well.

It all just boils down to a matter of opinion.

Respectfully.

I agree with Ja on the Gena six and Homosexuality. Everybody is so liberal these days till’ they don’t have morals. Not only dont I want my child wacthing that mess’ I don’t want to see it either. The girls gone wild commercials are just as bad on MTV and Bet, etc. Its easy to say block the channel, but everything on the channel is not offensive, but then in the blink of an eye, all you see is booty and breast. It is ridiculous. And don’t get me started on Gena 6 that is a shame before God. Everyone on here needs to look up that situation if you’ve never heard of it and make your voice heard.

As far as fifty, he did damage Ja Rule but at the same token he’s damaged now also, and not as popular as he once was. He”ll be the next Ja or Mc Hammer in a year a two, because fans are fickle and will switch on you real quick. Everyone loved Ja, then when fifty came, everyone hated him and why? his music didnt change, it was still the same sound he had with his success. But because we have to let the next “big thang” (50 cent) tell what we should listen to. Shame on it all

Booty claps, um I mean hand claps for darkphoenix84!

The feeble minds on here are concentrating on 50 when Ja dropped a REAL BOMB.

TOTALLY agree with what he saying about MTV, Congress, rap lyrics, etc. THERE’S BIGGER PROBLEMS LOOMING OVER BLACKS AND ALL FEEBLE MINDS CONCENTRATE ON IS WHAT DOESN’T MATTER.

BIG UP TO THE HOMIE JA RULE FOR BRINGING BULLSHIT AND RACISM TO THE FOREFRONT.

This is exactly what Kanye West and 50 was saying when they were on 106 & Park. KANYE DIDN’T “SHOUT OUT” CONCRETE LOOP - SOMETHING WAS SAID ABOUT LIES AND RUMORS AND THAT’S WHEN KANYE SAID “SHOUT OUT TO CONCRETE LOOP” AND 50 FINISHED THE COMMENT BY CALLING THE SITE A FORUM FOR BLOGGERS AND HATERS.

STEP YA’LL GAME UP CONCRETE AND GET ON WHAT JA’s ON.

I’ll second that booty clap for DARKPHOENIX84!

#270 I’m feelin you!

Just a Hypothetical if the bible said that man shall not lay with woman kind, and woman kind shall not lay with man kind… how many of you would/could physically and mentally bring yourselves to sleep with a person of the same sex (and don’t jump on it and say its not what the bible says, thats why its hypothetical…its to make people think)…I know I couldn’t cause thats not who I am, thats not how I’m wired to be, and I’m sure the people that says its sick can’t even imagine doing it…people need open themselves to enrichment and enlightenment or we’re gonna end up back were we were in the 50’s and 60’s…the silent racism is already rearing its ugly head, and we fight against that…yet I’ve heard the same people turn right around and express prejudice against Latinos, whites, gays whatever it be(not people on this board just in general)…how can you want progression when you yourself are taking major steps backward…a lot of you have very valid points, I’m just asking you to open your mind. As I stated before I’m a Christian, but I leave myself open to other explanations, their is never one simple answer to a question…when you do follow the bible exactly without any interpretation, and you just take it word for word as what is written you can end up blinding yourself to some realities, What I mean is you can end up with a Family that follows the book exactly Like The Phelps Family(If you don’t know or remember them go to Youtube and type in Shirley Phelps), or you end up with someone that doesn’t see whats right in front of them. I remember I was visiting a family member in the hospital and another family was visiting in the next bed and i don’t wanna lie to y’all and try to quote word for word but, the gist of what they were saying is that the doctor doesn’t know what he’s talking about, their is no such thing as germs/bacteria, its just the devil and we have to pray for God to get rid of the devil (and they were a African American family)…now don’t get me wrong I do believe that God can heal threw the power of prayer, but having a jaded view like the family that I spoke about can be self destructive…as I stated before I’m just asking you to open your mind, and not to close yourself off

@ 271

Thanks for the shout!

#273 You said that ‘ when you do follow the bible exactly without any interpretation, and you just take it word for word as what is written you can end up blinding yourself to some realities ‘. I’m not sure what you mean in that statement but an idea is that I or anyone shouldn’t believe every word of the bible or can’t believe every word. I’m not saying that is what you said but anyway, the interpretatio of th word of God or the bible is too please him at the end of all things. As a believer, and I have said this before, if I choose not to obey something in the bible, I might as well not obey the whole thing. I can’t choose whatI want to obey from the bible. I might as well say that ‘ok the bible says don’t kill, I’m going to ignore that and kill anyone that annoys me’. You get what I’m saying?

The reason for most of these comments is to defend morality and stuff like that man, which I can say is the rightest thing to do. And you can’t really say that we should pray for God to get rid of the devil, because God wants to know who is truly His’ if you understand what I mean. That is why temptation is approved by God so at the end, He wants to see if you still remain faithful. You can only pray for God’s help, and when you do what is right, the devil can not have anymore power over you because you resist him.

@ 272 CHRISP

Very well put. And my sentiments exactly. I caution to add that “enlightenment” is a term that does not go well amongst those who quote The Bible. I think I heard it mentioned here earlier that word of The Bible as it is written stands absolute and does not apply to modern times and changes in the attitudes of society. That might be fine for some people, although personally, I find that way of thinking to be rather archaic.

But to each his or her own.

It is by all means up to the person to stick by their beliefs and the live by the guide that they so choose. FOR MYSELF, I just find life to be more interesting when I open my mind to other ideas and perspectives without the fear of compromising my core values and beliefs.

Opening one’s mind to other perspectives does not necessarily mean that you adopt them, it just gives one a more full grasp of the subject at hand. But realistically, I wouldn’t engage in any deep religious debate, as I believe it is an oxymoron. And with respect to others here, I don’t see any point. I’ll voice an opinion and try to keep it moving.

Again, if you have a belief system that works for you, more power to you. But in the real world, sometimes life simply may not conform to your beliefs, as they don’t always to mine.

@ 274

With all due respect, I don’t think that statement came from me. If you’re paraphrasing, perhaps my previous post will clarify.

Respectfully.

homosexuality is not being “promoted”; it is just being shown. the same way that heterosexual relations are shown. if you do not like it, simply change the channel. it is a reality in our world — there have been gays since the beginning of time, it didn’t pop up out of nowhere. people need to get over it. point blank. ignorance is crippling. man is the pettiest species i swear. always looking for ways to separate themselves among others; always placing each other into classes by superficial things that are irrelevant. people need to get on their ghandi, get on their MLK, and brrreathe easy. one person’s personal life decision does not effect your own. & children do not “learn” to be gay nor are they “taught”. it is something they are born with because really… with all this hatred against them, do you really think someone would honestly make a conscious decision to be a homosexual?

In a my previous post I said that it mentioned that some folks thought that The Bible did not apply to modern times. I meant for the statement to imply that they thought it doesn’t apply to modern “thinking and attitude changes” if you will.

@ 273 IF GOD HAD CREATED SAME SEX RELATIONSHIPS IT WOULD BE JUST FINE BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE ALL WE KNOW . WE WOULD HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT A MAN/WOMAN REALTIONSHIP. MY MIND IS VERY OPEN I DONT HATE GAY PEOPLE I JUST DON’ T AND WON’T ACCEPT THEIR LIFESTYLE. IF IT WAS THOUGH TO BE OKAY FOR TWO PEOPLE OF THE SAME SEX TO ENGAGE IN SEXUAL ACTS GOD WOULD HAVE GIVEN ALL OF US BOTH SEX ORGANS. YOU HAVE THINGS IN YOUR LIFE THAT YOU DONT CONDONE , WOULD YOU LIKE IT IF SOMEONE CALLED YOU CLOSE-MINDED BECAUSE YOU DON’T APPROVE OF IT ? THE WAY SOME OF YOU GET ON THIS FORUM AND CLAIM TO BE CHRISTIANS BUT HAVE THE NERVE TO SAY THE BIBLE DONT APPLY TO TODAY’S WORLD . YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF! IF TODAY’S WORLD APPLIED THE BIBLE TO THEIR LIVES MORE OFTEN A LOT OF PROBLEMS WOULDN’T EXSIST. IM GOING TO HAVE TO APLOGIZE IN ADVANCE FOR WHAT IM ABOUT TO SAY BUT, AFRICAN AMERICANS ARE ABOUT THE MOST STUPID RACE OF THEM ALL . WE ACCEPT ANYTHING AND DONT STAND FOR NOTHING . THATS WHY WE ARE THE MOST LACKING IN THIS WORLD .

#280 ” THE WAY SOME OF YOU GET ON THIS FORUM AND CLAIM TO BE CHRISTIANS BUT HAVE THE NERVE TO SAY THE BIBLE DONT APPLY TO TODAY’S WORLD. YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF!”

”IF TODAY’S WORLD APPLIED THE BIBLE TO THEIR LIVES MORE OFTEN A LOT OF PROBLEMS WOULDN’T EXSIST” These two statements, I totally feel you on them.

For everyone else, the point being passed accrossed in this comment stuff is basically to defend morality. Nobody is judging gays, or hating them. If you read the comments, you will understand, if ur not a believer, I can’t say that for you (Though I encourage you to be one). The basic things to do are to have knowledge of what is happening in the world today, and plan the ways your still going to obey the bible.

Mind you, more than three things the bible revealed in the books of relevations have already come to pass. It says something like in the last days, water will come up and wash upon a land or something (tsunami), the bible also says soemthin about a continuous war ( I dnt even need to mention the name of that), and some other things.

@ 279 HOTT

Fine. That’s your opinion. And I think I stated that for me, engaging in religious debate is useless. You won’t change my mind, nor do I intend to try and change yours.

And if you’re implying that I said that The Bible does not apply to modern times, you got it twisted - The implications of my statement was the opposite. I was referring to a previous post which I (full disclosure) paraphrased as saying that they believed in The Bible AS WRITTEN and as such the Word does not conform to modern times and thinking. To clarify, you follow the Word now as people did then. Or, The Bible is not amendable to changing attitudes. Or, if we as a society changed laws and made homosexuality legal, the laws of The Bible will not change.

As for your statement about black people being stupid, why apologize? I read what are, in my opinion, some pretty stupid statements lol.

And for the record, I won’t stand for ANYBODY throwing their so-called faith at me as if they are more spiritual or more moral than I, so save your breath. I consider that to be personal and I did not, and avoid confronting people PERSONALLY about their beliefs, so just stick with the subject at hand, please.

#282 It maybe possible for someone to be moral without the help of the bible, that maybe your case, I don’t know, but your getting angry for no reason in my opinion man! It is normal for people in a society to want the right things to be carried out, and like I said, nobody is judging gay people, well I’m not and ‘HOTT’ ain’t. It’s all about what we beleive, and if you believe in something, you stand up for it. If someone does not believe in something, they can fall for anything. Real talk. And if people believe in the bible, like I do, you acan’t say anything cos proof is right there. You need to know duties of people that are meant to be christians, so you can’t really say anything. Without knowledge of something, you can’t say anything.

@ 283

Firstly, I’m not angry. I threw that last statement in a terse matter for a reason. It’s pure and simple and make of it what you will. If it don’t apply, then let it fly.

And it seems you are assuming that I don’t follow The Bible. That’s ok. But I will reiterate - I WILL NOT QUALIFY MY FAITH IN THIS FORUM. That is my personal business. If you read any of my posts closely, they were made in blanket form. Meaning I did not refer to anybody directly in terms of my opinions. And don’t you people READ? I’ve said over and over, and in the kindest, most respectful manner possible, if you have your own belief system, FINE. I’m good with that.

For the most part, I relish this exchange of thoughts and opinions, even those of people I don’t agree with. I just try and avoid making it personal

#285 I aint saying you don’t follow the bible, but the way you put your words, it makes it seem as though you are, though I am not judging you. If you are in the faith, I will encourage you to keep to it and keep living with the faith, I ain’t judging nobody, just EXPRESSING how I feel men. Sorry shorty! And you say ‘I’ve said over and over, and in the kindest, most respectful manner possible, if you have your own belief system, FINE. I’m good with that”, thats cool but it was also like you were kinda saying comments were wrong or whatever (not referring to anyone). And since, personally I stick to the bible, the am I wrong for expressing how I feel? Its cool man.

No, you’re not wrong for your beliefs and values. Damn, that’s why we’re so lost now because it seems like good values have gone out the window.

It’s all good too I didn’t want to leave this particular thread on a bad note. Your thoughts comments were much appreciated.

And I did learn something here today.

#287 Im glad you did. God is good, always remember that. Don’t look at other people’s example to live your own life, you’ve got the book to guide you. L8r.

Ja Rule, like many of you I’d assume, based upon what you’ll have to say, is a 9th grade drop out. Im gonna pass on giving his commentary any thought.

Black people are angry, bitter people who have sumthin to say about everything. Black people are victims of perpetuated ignorance (=lacking knowledge). The most uneducated race of people, so its no surprise that this kind of shit comes out of their mouths. Then they wonder why THE MAN doesn’t take black ppl seriously.

@Bambam

No disrespect to you brother but what I find alot amongst so-called “educated” brothers is this new politically correct “pro-blackness” that certain black men try to use so that people don’t feel threatened by them. “I love my people but we all have to come together.”, lol. Now conjure up in your mind the probabiIity of black people coming together and multiply that by 1 trillion and that’s the probability of whites and blacks coming together. I don’t like when negroes try to sell me wolf tickets. I have more respect for atheists than so many of these “spiritual” people that want all people to uphold their own personal religiious philosophy. It’s not going to happen. This is why it’s so easy to see when you take the thought process to it’s ultimate conclusion that the white man is the god of this world because the enlightenment negroes that buck up against the Bible don’t do so against the Constitution. You people put an explicit trust in the white man that his system has something for blacks as a race to benefit from and it doesn’t. His system is designed to encourage vanity, and quite honestly brother, it’s worked on you. I saw earlier in the thread where you mentioned the Iraq war and, no disrespect, the American government doesn’t give a damn about your opinion concerning their war on terror. It doesn’t give a damn about your opinion period.

Cool n all tryna reach out wit a point, but he had to talk about homo sexuality, aint there was rumors of him doin another dude, the stylist, c’mon ja, not the best way to comeback or defend yaself, date a hollywiood chick maybe that ell work ….or not….its over, its done, let go….

on anotha tip that gay garbage really does annoy me when MTV be playin it…..cant stand it! but Ja tryna sell a album so he usin a new approach, time to preach, aight na!

he made a point, but for the wrong reasons fam….just stop, reminds me of sharpton, whateva gets ya name out, **shakes head**

@281 YOU’RE A COON ! I HAVE TO CALL IT LIKE I SEE IT . YOU COME ON HERE AS IF YOUR SAYING SOMETHING BUT IN A NICELY PUT MANNER YOU ARE SAYING YOU SUPPORT HOMOSEXUALITY . IM NOT MAD AT YOU THATS HOW YOU LIVE SO BE IT ! WHAT ARE YOUR RAMBLING ABOUT STUFF BEING PERSONAL ? EVERYONE OPINION IS PERSONAL ALONG THIS BLOG . EXPRESSING YOUR THOUGHTS ON SOMETHING IS PERSONAL . YOU SHOULD TRY STICKING TO THE SUBJECT AT HAND INSTEAD OF SAYING BASICALLY A BUNCH OF NOTHING BECAUSE YOU LOVE HOMOSEXUALS LIFESTYLES. I WOULD HAVE A LOT MORE RESPECT FOR YOU IF YOU WOULD JUST COME OUT AND SAY THAT ..

DAMN, SOMTHIN TOLD ME YALL WAS STILL GOIN HARD, LMAO!!!

@Aijuswannasay

Brother, you know I gotta go hard at all times, lol. These cats kill me with their nonsense. They try to come at me sideways and then they backtrack when they get called out because they know whats going to happen when their B.S. philosophy gets held up to the light. We’re going to see nothing but flaws. You never see these philosophical cats on posts like Jena 6 or the girl in West Virginia. Never see them. They pop up to castigate the black man for taking a real stand though, ain’t that a bitch.

#293 I dnt think your comment was meant for me, cos i hav been against homosexuality in my life and on this entry of concreteloop. Check my previous comments and the one you referred to. Anyway I think you might have made a mistake.

@ 295 NO HUN I WAS TALKING TO BAM BAM. ON MY COMPUTER HE WAS THAT PARTICULAR NUMBER.

judas i would like to meet you can you give me your contact information.

LMAO @ SexyDiva.

That’s how you get on my good side, by calling me Judas. If you gonna be a serpent, at least be subtile.

@ HOTT

Backatcha, wannabe. Like you’re the voice of reason. So you’re some kinda black militant. Negro, please. Before you start calling out, and let let me stress that usually the first fool-ass that resorts to name calling to make ain’t usually worth my time, just shows your lack of intelligence, but I challenge you to give me THREE ways you give back to your community.

Then I just might engage your dumb ass in some dialogue.

judah i aplogize now can i have the information please. i want to see you.