@ 72

or attempted to throw a brick at her husband

julieisadime
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i’ma try and find the link

HEADS UP EVERYBODY

September 25, 2007 - Congress to Hold Hearings on Negative Portrayals Of Black Women in Media. Go to

http://www.whataboutourdaughters.blogspot.com/

@grlnva, That poor baby will grow up to know that his father killed his mother. May God bless that child and watch over him or her.

Here is the link for my girl Kayla

http://www.wavy.com/Global/story.asp?s=5964674

I can’t get on for some reason but here’s the money quote, the link is directly below it-

“It is interesting that his two followers sat there [in the video] and admitted that in spite of seeing bruises on the woman’s neck and seeing the woman crying hysterically, they–along with Juanita Bynum, talked the woman out of pressing charges! The woman had reported that Weeks had actually “body slammed” her to the floor”

http://www.hicktownpress....woman-as-skeletons-emerge

81.

grlnva
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i’m soooo sorry that happened to your friend

@Tiffy_from_DC

Naw didn’t see the video.It was from his book and a rock

http://sandrarosenews.blo...t-easy-being-married.html

@grlnva Damn, this is the # 1 reason why women should leave, forgive but leave. Better safe than sorry. This is so so sad. Then having his baby put her at greater risk because he as the father has his rights to see the baby. Bad situation all around.

74#

“She is a smart business woman. But sucks relationship building with men.”
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I agree. She’ll make a lot of money but she needs therapy. I just don’t know how she’ll handle it if he remarries.

She should’ve left him the first time he laid hands on her.

i thougt i read he was due back in court today?

Yeah she needs to leave him and he doesn’t deserve to be the pastor (or whatever position he has) of that church anymore.

#88 it was set for today but they indicted him and changed the date. They never mentioned a date for the new hearing after the indictment. I’m waiting to hear myself.

Hmmm she is ready to milk you niave black poor sisters. I can see conferences after conferences milking the poor black women…Watch out!!!!!!

I agree. She’ll make a lot of money but she needs therapy. I just don’t know how she’ll handle it if he remarries.

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I never thought (just from a few hours of watching their “relationship videos” that this was a hot steamy love affair. It seemed like a great concept. The fact is the state of black love is in the crapper in this country. And people were looking for the black Dr Phil and Robin (Phil)…to me it made great television and concept.

He was looking for a springboard. He got it and couldn’t handle it. He frankly isnt that talented or interesting.

I think they both need therapy.

IDK
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thanks

#91.. THANK YOU!! Cause you know it’s coming! She is a fraud

I have to agree also with GRWONAZZWOMAN.

You know it is a sad day in the world when people enjoy talking about others for wanting to pray for a situation like this. Nobody is not in denial, avoiding or “covering up” this situation…this is absolutely serious and needs to be taken into account. However making negative comments and throwing stones at Juanita Bynum and Bishop Weeks do not help either.

I could sit here all day like many and make comments about both Bynum and Weeks actions but that doesn’t benefit the situation or myself. It’s honestly none of my business. But what does help is pray and maintain being positive.

I know many here do not have that much faith in God and pray but there are some here who do have that faith. However, I am not in the business of knocking on someone who doing something positive as “praying” and “not passing judgment” in a dark situation. Isn’t that what Christians are supposed to do? And just erase the Christian thing. Isn’t that how a concerned person is supposed to react? And for those who are wondering…I am NOT one of those high Christian rollers who attend church every Sunday who sustains the Christian lifestyle daily either. I am just someone who appreciates others who can take an unconstructive event and make it into an encouraging condition.

To each its own…we all got opinions. But I really can’t believe people are getting called out for doing something good. I mean – really? How many of us enjoy being talked about? Now we’re into hating on people who pray? Everyone is not into talking sh%t all the time. I don’t know about some of yall.

#92

He was looking for a springboard. He got it and couldn’t handle it. He frankly isnt that talented or interesting.
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LOL i’ve never heard him speak and at this point, i really don’t want to. But its funny that you should point out ‘dull as ditch water’ Mr Weeks, because i heard he was struggling to build a bynum like mega church empire prior to marrying her and that despite having tried for ages, this dream constantly eluded him. Maybe the dude just wasn’t cut out to preach. Some people ae called upon by God while others just take themselves………….

I hope when she makes that money, she donates every cent to womens shelters and such. Yeah they both need therapy.

I’m still shocked about this… this is definantely a set back for christian. Please stay strong.

who ever posted that link on the congressional hearings on hip hop’s effect on the black woman, thank you. sometimes i think what is the difference between the uncle tom blacks who sold slaves 400 years back, and our black men who degrade women usin the name of the almighty dollar. Both are selling us off to the highest bidder

What a sad story. He lost his dang mind. *shaking my head in dismay*

This *SCREAMS* publicity to me - why would she want to call herself the “new face of domestic violence?” Is that like the “new face of Cover Girl?”

Give me a break - all of the big time bishops and evangelists are just suspect to me…

^^^LMAO^^^

LOL i’ve never heard him speak and at this point, i really don’t want to. But its funny that you should point out ‘dull as ditch water’ Mr Weeks, because i heard he was struggling to build a bynum like mega church empire prior to marrying her and that despite having tried for ages, this dream constantly eluded him. Maybe the dude just wasn’t cut out to preach. Some people ae called upon by God while others just take themselves………….

I hope when she makes that money, she donates every cent to womens shelters and such. Yeah they both need therapy.
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He is real real dry. But Juanita even commented that she prayed for God to steer his ministry in the right direction because sometimes preachers just like to hear themselves talk—they get “saved and happy off of their own message” and everybody else is looking around like “huh” ???

I think this work calls for not only annointing but some kind of charisma. I went to Lutheran schools growing up–and his sermons are similiar but with a little more soul–but not much more.

JUANITA NEEDS HELP…SHE WOULD MARRY HIS AZZ TWICE. WHAT THE HELL SHE ON? SHE IS A BEAUTIFUL WOMAN BUT HER HEAD IS NOT ON RIGHT, SHE NEED TO GET HER LIFE IN ORDER.

@95

I’m sorry public figures cant have it both ways. You sign up for scrutiny when you cash your big checks at the expense of your audience. Same with the Min. Sen dude who is hand signaling in the next stall about gay activities….you don’t get a public pass for a public life that you benefit from everyday.

There is a price to pay with everything. Calling yourself some type of Godly relationship expert is another price particularly when worldy marriages aren’t going the same drama.

@ Tiffy_from_DC
Friday, September 7, 2007
@95

I’m sorry public figures cant have it both ways.
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ummmm hmmmmm

#50 wrote “Leaving an abusive relationship is difficult. A battered woman will leave and return a number of times before making the finally decision to end the relationship. Victims should not be judge harshly for this, their are many underlying reason’s that determine those decisions for them. If you know someone in this situation, be supportive in the ways that you can. Refer them to service providers that can assist during this stressful and dangerous time. Know that it will take time…….allow them the time.”

I was in a very long term relationship with my daughters father, things started to get rocky and then one day i said something he didnt like and he thought it would be a good idea to hit me in the face. I called the cops and i never looked back. He showed me his true colors that day, he forced me to come to the realization that i never knew the REAL him. If a man can raise his hand to you he doesnt love you the way you deserve, BOTTOM LINE!!

i walked away from him, that was 3+ years ago. And i love myself and my daughter WAY TOO much to have every considered returning. Woman that go back and forth to the man that abused them are doing so because they choose to. Your only a victim if you allow yourself to me made a victim.

All breakup are difficult but it is my humble opinion that when there is domestic violence involved reconciling should not be an option. Please people if he got angry enough to hit you once. It will take him much less anger to do it again ESPECIALLY knowing that you will tolerant it.

I have heard of accounts first hand, from my mother and auntie, where they were at conventions with Juanita and her husband and she had no problem belittling him in front of the church and when she was made aware of the situation she stated that she was praying to God that he would help her with it. I was also told that it wasn’t until she met him that she started wearing a ton of makeup and fake hair, etc.

I don’t feel that any time a woman should be hit, but we as women know what buttons to push at certain times…the key is to know when not too. If you man or whatever is upset and trying to walk away before the situation becomes worse…then let him walk away..don’t go running after him and getting all in his face.

Also, I believe that she is playing the victim card in this situation. I have listened to her sermons and do believe and act upon some of the things she says, but i don’t believe that this incident was entirely his fault. I also believe that people need to remember that not all “christians” are christians and God chooses to use whom ever he chooses to get to the point. Does that give that person a free pass to heaven…no it doesn’t. So even though that tree isn’t bearing the “right” fruit; it doesn’t mean God won’t use that tree for his good.

What messed up is that Juanita stole him from his first wife. Yes, she was his mistress until he decided to leave his wife for her. It’s well known!! Karma is something else!!

i mean… i appreciate her being honest. of course she still loves
him. being a victim of abuse isn’t a phase u just snap out of, and
differentiating love from desperation is difficult for even the
“strongest,” smartest people. Unfortunately I think her message is
harmful here. What I get from it is, forgiveness = acknowledging
that someone hurt you, and releasing your ill will without
investigating the ways in which YOU have and continue to hurt yourself
through desperate, unhealthy desires.

Her “love for him” will never die. Problematic. She can love him in
Jesus’s name, but she needs to get help to separate that from the love
that let’s her get beat and shoved. Too many women go around
desperate to forgive dudes without rehabilitating themselves.

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right on. Thats totally true. Like my mama used to say.

“how you get em is how you keep em”.

i mean… i appreciate her being honest. of course she still loves
him. being a victim of abuse isn’t a phase u just snap out of, and
differentiating love from desperation is difficult for even the
“strongest,” smartest people. Unfortunately I think her message is
harmful here. What I get from it is, forgiveness = acknowledging
that someone hurt you, and releasing your ill will without
investigating the ways in which YOU have and continue to hurt yourself
through unhealthy desires.

Her “love for him” will never die. Problematic. She can love him in
Jesus’s name, but she needs to get help to separate that from the love
that let’s her get beat and shoved. Too many women go around
desperate to forgive dudes without rehabilitating themselves.

He is real real dry. But Juanita even commented that she prayed for God to steer his ministry in the right direction because sometimes preachers just like to hear themselves talk—they get “saved and happy off of their own message” and everybody else is looking around like “huh” ???

I think this work calls for not only annointing but some kind of charisma. I went to Lutheran schools growing up–and his sermons are similiar but with a little more soul–but not much more.

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Juanita herself seems very one dimensional. Granted i’ve only seen 3 clips (one being their wedding not a messege) but it seems too much tailored towards the long suffering black woman with no real ‘move it along’ plan. Nonetheless i can see why she has a following. She commands attention. Whether you agree with her style, her message or not, she commands attention.
I went to catholic school and i’m not even catholic. No offense to catholics and all those who’ve had charismatic priests, but ours was that dry you speak of.DRY!! My goodness you’ve brought back some hilarious memories for me LMAO!!!

Preachers (like shrinks) probably shouldn’t marry each other. There just seems like there would be some tension over who has more followers blah blah blah I mean why would she be praying to God to steer his ministry in the right direction?

There is a greater opportunity here if Bishop Weeks would take advantage of this for the greater good all. We hear a lot about victims and in fact I have written a book titled FAMILY TERROR available at http://www.familyterror.com as I am a survivor of domestic violence.
You see the problem is that we are addressing the wrong side of domestic violence. Everything is for the shelters to protect and hide the victims. If the abusers were made to step up and be responsible for their actions there could be much pain and suffering saved.
If an abuser would commit himself to another location and enter a half-way house type setting, counseling and help for the problem could be addressed ( and it is not a anger management issue), the family and children could not be disturbed which would be much better for the children, the children could be told the truth (that daddy or mommy loved them but they are sick and are going away to get better) and not be hauled off to jail in a sense the child will never forget, etc. If the abuser would take responsibility and sincerely want help for the problem, the abuser would not want to endanger or harm his family any further.
Christians should demand the abuser step forward and accept responsibility. Hiding the victim and letting the abuser go free is not the scriptural way things should be handled. Therefore it is no wonder the problem is growing and not decreasing. We are feeding the problem. Just ask yourself this. Wouldn’t Jesus act the same way he did concerning the money changers in the temple when he violently through the marketers out of the temple. This would be a matter Jesus would have reacted violently and not permitted. He would have glared right at the abuser. He would not have thought it was right to participate in secret hide-a-ways. But we Christian want to pretend it does not exist. Again, like the Good Samaritan that stopped to help while all the others walked on by and refused assistance along the road to the man. It is Bishop Weeks that can change history here and has the strongest ministry to offer as it is not a duplication of another, and it is the right thing to do for a man to guide others to be responsible.
80% of incarcerated individuals are from domestic violent homes. As children are growing up and seeing there family not be protected by the laws of our country and they also see the good Christian people pass on by and pretend they don’t see their pain, it is no wonder. These children grow up not respecting the laws. These children also grow up to think that God does not love them because of the actions of Christians to ignore their pain.
The scriptures tell us to address this differently than is being done. Christians are the ones that are going to have to step up to the plate.

I mean don’t get me wrong it’s sad what happened to her. But stealing a man from his wife and I think a newborn baby, wow!! That marriage was doomed from the beginning.

Setian

I dunno she’s fascinating to me. A real powerhouse. But you are right. She is catering to the “long suffering black woman”–hmmm (internally–what the hell does that make me??)LOL

But I think with evolved black women (can my arm reach to pat my back :)) we all go through times where we frankly aren’t so evolved…some of her messages need to be heard and are empowering. And if you can parse out the dating advice-she is very relevant. Some people though with anything are addicted to self-help, additcted to God in a way that self reliance is a mute point. Prayer and FAITH changes EVERYTHING. But so does ACTION.

Many black women (and black men) still have a we shall overcome attitude about personal development. But inspired faith is just as important as inspired–”get your butt up” and excecute the plan.

Yes, dimples delight, I agree. I just hate it when “church” people use it for their own good. re: #107 “it doesn’t mean God won’t use that tree for his good.”

That shit makes U think …. I want to stop hittin’ my chick . But she always hit me first …. it’s a reflex !!!!!!!!!!!

It’s better to leave, no matter how hard it is…

“I went to catholic school and i’m not even catholic. No offense to catholics and all those who’ve had charismatic priests, but ours was that dry you speak of.DRY!! My goodness you’ve brought back some hilarious memories for me LMAO!!!”

LoL because I can relate. I didn’t go to Catholic school but I was raised a Catholic and I remember those early experiences as a child. I stayed getting popped for dozing off. Dry is right. lol.

I am sorry for her pain but she surely sounds like she may re-marry him again if he “straightens” himself out.. Girl LET IT GO and let god!!! as the old folks used to say.

She’ll have another HUGE expensive wedding…

I say pray for him and keep it moving…I am sure he will see her statement and know that she is OPEN..

He could have killed her and she is talking about her LOVE for him..she should be talking about how happy she is that her life was spared.

Love his ass lata OK!!! Why is it so hard for women to put their selves FIRST.

Just My Opinion

That may not be the man she is supposed to be with but people take stuff in their own hands and all of the signs are there to LEAVE/DON’T DO IT…

This situation shows that a woman beater can take many forms!! It’s usually the person you would never think could do something like that!!

Also it’s stuff like this that makes me very hesitant about getting married!!

@ DEB, great ideas and you’re 110% right. It would be better if we could focus on the ABUSER. The law needs to change the way they approach this because a lot of times they lock abusers up but never force them into counseling.

Truth is, some men are so ingrained it’s almost like abusive behavior is written into their DNA. It’s almost impossible for them to change who they are because they’ve been that way for so long. You even said it, “80% of incarcerated individuals are from domestic violent homes.” Men who beat women don’t do it for thrills. They do it because they feel weak and want to regain their power. I think in addition to some of your suggestions, another way to reverse the trend is to have more MEN raising boys. There’s not enough of that either.

And let’s not forget. There are female abusers out there too. One of my good friends recently admitted this to me. Shocking because she’s like 4 feet high. But that just goes to show you. Like I said, it’s not about thrills, it’s about asserting control and having power. I told her she needs to get her shit together cause one day her man’s gonna flip the hell out and then she’ll be in an Al Green situation.

LMAO @ 117.

Well I love Prophetess Bynum. She is truly a God-fearing woman. And for those of you out there who are always judging and talking about Christianity, please. That’s bull. Juanita Bynum never said she was perfect. Besides, none of us are perfect. Even Jesus himself wasn’t perfect when he was on this earth as a human and not a spirit. Once again I say, I wish the Prophetess Bynum the best of luck both spiritually, mentally and physically and emotionally and may God bring her through this time of need. This is her breakthrough! God Bless!

I told her she needs to get her shit together cause one day her man’s gonna flip the hell out and then she’ll be in an Al Green situation.
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hot grits and all.

Right on number 36 and he should get whatever is coming to him.
no. 34 and 39, you sound crazy just like him, who makes someone beat them for money or anything else. It is called don’t talk or speak unless you have something to say. Jesus help us.

@13 I agree with you 100%.

1. A prophet or prophetess is a person obligated with the responsibility of being a follower from a holy person or thing with the purpose of making social change.

2. Opportunism: a trend of thought, or a political tendency, seeking to make political capital out of situations with the main aim being that of gaining more influence or support, instead of truly winning people over to a principled position or improving their political understanding.

hmmmmm, I’ll say #2! LOL

Hi, Mallato

104.TIFFY_FROM_DC

@95

I’m sorry public figures cant have it both ways. You sign up for scrutiny when you cash your big checks at the expense of your audience. Same with the Min. Sen dude who is hand signaling in the next stall about gay activities….you don’t get a public pass for a public life that you benefit from everyday.

There is a price to pay with everything. Calling yourself some type of Godly relationship expert is another price particularly when worldy marriages aren’t going the same drama.

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See dear you missed the whole point of my comment.

I said NOTHING about public figures/celebrities having a public pass. If you do dirt, it’s only a matter of time before it comes to the light…regardless of who you are or what you do. YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW. But when people get upset and criticize others for saying that they will pray for Juanita and Weeks is just not right to me.

You missed the whole point of my comment. It had nothing to do with public figures having free passes while living their lives in the limelight. If people choose to talk down about others life like their perfect, than that is fine. But don’t get mad at someone who doesn’t have any negative input. My only point was don’t complain about people who want to pray over this situation.

And by the way that Senator, Larry Craig is from Idaho…not Minnesota. He was at the Minneapolis Saint Paul International Airport when he got caught committing sexual misconduct.

@julieisadime….. Hey lady

Setian

I dunno she’s fascinating to me. A real powerhouse. But you are right. She is catering to the “long suffering black woman”–hmmm (internally–what the hell does that make me??)LOL

But I think with evolved black women (can my arm reach to pat my back :)) we all go through times where we frankly aren’t so evolved…some of her messages need to be heard and are empowering. And if you can parse out the dating advice-she is very relevant. Some people though with anything are addicted to self-help, additcted to God in a way that self reliance is a mute point. Prayer and FAITH changes EVERYTHING. But so does ACTION.

Many black women (and black men) still have a we shall overcome attitude about personal development. But inspired faith is just as important as inspired–”get your butt up” and excecute the plan.

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LOL look at me being rude…..haha i had no idea you was one, i read it like you ment you’d seen her sermons out of curiosity that came as a result of this case. My apologies Tiffy. I didn’t mean to offend. I definately would not put you in the ‘long suffering pile’ lol. For one, i doubt long suffering folks got enuff time to start noticing dry vs charismatic. Long suffering is demanding work! Plus anyone who can question themselves (even in jest) is in good mental health in my book!

First, she has had a crazy life. I know that God can speak to anyone and call on anyone, but since this incident with Weeks, perhaps she should have been seeing a shrink to sort out her own issues.

I think why i have reservations with her is because while i agree that yes women (even men) sometimes need to hear that message of empowerment, when or what follows? Like is there room after that message to evolve to one of self reflection? Especially self questioning e.g

What was my role in this situation?

What did i contribute to it that brought me to this horrible place?

Why did i do what i did?

Am i embarrassed about talking about it?

Why is it so hard for me to face my own contribution without dragging in the other party to share the blame?

How do i learn how to forgive myself?

What am i going to do to help get past this?

Its difficult for anybody whose been down to gain that strength again. But just as with their newly found faith and empowerment, there are more steps to climb that will not be easy but are needed nonetheless. Long suffering should not be a permanent feature. What about the preaching steps that requires one to learn how to be happy again. How to smile again? See the world as beautiful again–and beautiful all just for you to enjoy and be thankful for. So that one can go out in it and instead of wearing one badge–that of the long suffering woman/man, its the badge of a happy person. Peaceful you know? Would you say her sermons gear towards the evolution you spoke of? But you are right about inspired faith. Her following does prove that she touches many lives at probably what is an important time in their lives for them to hear her message.

I don’t follow the Christian preacher circuit but it seems as if the man was jealous of her worldly success and acclaim, which shows that he is not a man of the Most High. I’m sure that she has probably been saying things to antagonize him for years, which some women are wont to do when they think that they’re more successful than their mate, lol. If he was a man of the scripture, anything that she could’ve come with would’ve easily been cut by the Word of the Lord. First off, she’s really not even supposed to be teaching the Word of the Lord (Num 27:16, I Tim 2:11-15, etc.). If she was a woman of God, like many sisters claim to be, she would have to hearken to him if he was on point (I Cor 14:34,35). That shows that the spirit of the “megachurch” is based on petty competition and vanity (Matt 18:20, Acts 7:48).

this is why i never go to pastors for anything. they’re human just like the rest of us so if i want to repent to god, i’ll do it without the “aid” of someone else. i don’t need random ppl preaching to me.

anyway i hope everything goes well for her. that’s a sad situation

I don’t care what kind of buttons a female pushes, A MAN HAS NO RIGHT TO HIT A WOMAN. Whether buttons were pushed or not is not even important. As long as the woman does not hit the man first THERE IS NO EXCUSE. Mr. Weeks is not Juanita’s father so he had no right to even shove her. In my eyes, he is a hypocrite. Standing on the pulpit preaching on Sundays and going home knocking his wife upside the head. Put his a$$ in jail!!

#44 & #59 — I totally agree with you. She’s gonna ride this all the way to the bank and foolish people are going to continue to finance her. She’s more shady than just a little bit.

To 130. Yes you are right he is from IA not Min. Thank you also for the details of the case including airport location, address, airline and airport code. His state is really insignificant—no one really knew who he was or cared before operation “i dropped the toilet paper”.

The point remains the same

you wrote:

“I could sit here all day like many and make comments about both Bynum and Weeks actions but that doesn’t benefit the situation or myself. It’s honestly none of my business. But what does help is pray and maintain being positive.”

I disagree. its the world’s business-particularly when after this went down both redesigned their website-and Juanita became the face of domestic violence.

There are so many messges that people’s lives represent. Mine, Juanita, Yours, Weeks. We are all human. We all make mistakes. my beef is don’t “teach me how to love my man”–when you haven’t figured how to love your’s—-which should have been from far far far away.

no one really knew who he was or cared before operation “i dropped the toilet paper”.

FUNNY AS HELL!!!!!!

@Tiffy_from_DC, u are funny as hell, got me cracking up.

Amen @ 91 and 108.

@91: you know the conferences are coming and silly black women will be packing the joints out and buying Juanita’s $500 prayer kits.

@108: she sure did steal the right reverend Weeks from his wife. I guess the Lawd told her to do that since she is a Prophetess! That’s why the first wedding was done undercover.

Can you imagine the conversations they must have had when they were planning to deceive the public? “Yeah, I know we shouldn’t be doing this, but those dummies hang on every word we say. Yeah, I know I stole you from your wife, but see here, we’re going to write a book on marriage anyway and rake in the dough. These dummies won’t say anything because they’re not supposed to put their mouths on us! Boo, we’ll make enough tonight to take a trip to Bali next week!”

FRAUDS!

@128 — I’ll take #2 (opportunism) for $500, Alex!

Juanita could write a book, hold a seminar, record the DVD on opportunism. What a mess.

“I went to catholic school and i’m not even catholic. No offense to catholics and all those who’ve had charismatic priests, but ours was that dry you speak of.DRY!! My goodness you’ve brought back some hilarious memories for me LMAO!!!”

LoL because I can relate. I didn’t go to Catholic school but I was raised a Catholic and I remember those early experiences as a child. I stayed getting popped for dozing off. Dry is right. lol.

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How did you sleep??? Didn’t ya’ll (don’t) have to get up kneel every 20 mins or so.haha! LMAO i used to sleep in protestant church!! My mom would pop me too! And she was mad as hell when she found out the reason i would ‘get lost’ with the crowd as we came in was because i would look for the pillars (it was an old church) on the sides to sit next to coz they could hide me better and provide uncomfotable but solid non-human (hence reliable) pillows when i dozed off. Once i hit my head head though.Kinda hard too coz i woke up startled hehehehe. God was obviously not amused Its ironic coz now that i’m older, i kinda miss my school chapel and my old church even though all they preach about is politics and political parties.

@ Judah.. Hey brother…

I agree with you totally woman are suppose to be slient in the congregation.

Respecting women, he wrote: “Let the women keep silent in the congregations, for it is not permitted for them to speak, but let them be in subjection, even as the Law says. If, then, they want to learn something, let them question their own husbands at home, for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in a congregation.” (1 Cor. 14:34, 35) This admonition is in agreement with Paul’s later words in his first letter to Timothy: “Let a woman learn in silence with full submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach, or to exercise authority over a man, but to be in silence.”—1 Tim. 2:11, 12.
……. This is what the Bible says about woman preaching and teaching..

Warning……. This is my thoughts on the situation and if you are offened I am sorry!!! But the Bible says what it says and that is it….. LOL

can someone please help me to understand the “marrying him twice” comment she made. i’m just not getting it.

“LOL look at me being rude…..haha i had no idea you was one, i read it like you ment you’d seen her sermons out of curiosity that came as a result of this case. My apologies Tiffy. I didn’t mean to offend. I definately would not put you in the ‘long suffering pile’ lol. For one, i doubt long suffering folks got enuff time to start noticing dry vs charismatic. Long suffering is demanding work! Plus anyone who can question themselves (even in jest) is in good mental health in my book! ”

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Yes I am a recovering “long” sufferer. I joke about it. It lasted for a month and half. Its funny and sad. Mostly because women who have “it together” don’t do suffering. But it is mostly attritbutable to a negro. LOL

I was googling around and found some footage of the clark sisters and juanita bynum also showed up. So for a month and a half I think I saw every sermon on both her and week’s site. It was feel good-particularly for long suffers.

But religon (and I know Im gonna get some hate posts from this) enables people to keep on suffering. That suffering is God like and admirable and some sort of test of strength and worthiness. LONG TIME SUFFERING IS NOT OF GOD.

So Juanita came in at a crucial time. Its just when I got to the love and relationship portions–some stuff wasn’t sounding right–like all the drama they both spoke of. Some of it I took-and I skipped to other parts particularly about taking action, saying no to the pity parties. etc etc.

I took major action right around the time my income started to become proportional to my “long suffering”. I guess I feel for people who go through stuff like this for years and years all in the name of Jesus.

@CLEARMINDED, Too funny.

“It’s so much until I think I can marry him twice, but this one is over,”

Im lost on this quote. What was she trying to say?

@140

I can’t wait for the trial!! All that is done in the dark, eventually comes to light!!

“I disagree. its the world’s business-particularly when after this went down both redesigned their website-and Juanita became the face of domestic violence.

There are so many messges that people’s lives represent. Mine, Juanita, Yours, Weeks. We are all human. We all make mistakes. my beef is don’t “teach me how to love my man”–when you haven’t figured how to love your’s—-which should have been from far far far away.”
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Get em Tiff! I see you girl. lol. People always fail to see how their lives are shaped by everything around them. I’m dealing with this same thing on the Jay-Z post! lol.

@ Setian - I thought I was the only one that thought they could hide in the big pews!! lol. I’m not a practicing Catholic and it’s been years but my fondest memories were taking bread, drinking the wine (grape juice) and wanting to spit it out. I couldn’t have been more than five years old when I played hide and seek in the church. On top of that, it seemed like it would be HOURS and DAYS before we even got out of there. Those services were hella long. lol. But those were the days. Fun times. lol