Stay strong sister!

Hmm I wish her well and I hope that other people in a similar situation follow her example and get out while they can.

In regard to marrying him twice, I don’t know about that. You kick my ass once and I am not coming back for Act II.

second?
i see where she is going w/ this..
hopefully God will be on her side.
she deserves better.
and good thing she spoke up!
no one deserves that.

IT’S A DAMN SHAME.

This is a saddening situation. I wish her the best. I hope she stays strong. She’s a beautiful woman.

exactly. 1st time shame on him. 2nd time shame on you. domestic abuse is never a good thing. ive been in relationships like that and you have to be strong and walk away or get help.

I think she should divorce him, because there is no excuse in beating a women. I know some of us desearve it, but if you need to beat her for her to act the way you want her to then you should just leave her alone. Also the same thing is for the ladies, because if you hit someone even out of anger you better expect to be hit back!!!!

That is damn shame.

All of you all out there in Christendom need to get off this “pray for them and judge not lest you be judged”. Look the tree is known by the fruit that it bears. These two trees are not bearing the right kind of fruit; it’s just that plain and simple. I don’t know why the “saints” are so quick to cover up mess rather than calling it what it is. It is what it is…A BIG MESS. Even the folks (unsaved) in the world know how to call a spade a spade. No fruit of the Spirit is evident on these trees. Ya’ll need to get a grip! Stop being in denial about this situation. Sympathy goes out to Bynum, because no one deserves to be abused in any form or fashion. On the other hand she needs to stop making public appearances and sit her hips sit down somewhere so she can make sound decisions about this matter.

My prayers are for Prophetess Bynum and Bishop Weeks.
He is still a child of God and needs our prayers too.

I love Prophetess Bynum. This just goes to show that we are all human and we have our own crosses to bear and our own demons to castout. I’m certain that God will get the glory from all of this and that battered women across the world will benefit greatly from the upcoming resurgence of THE FIGHT AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE led by Bynum.

God Bless her.

That’s too bad their marriage did not work out. Good luck to her.

One more thing, we need to stop saying everybody is a child of god. If god put some of us down here, than you should also know that the devil got his kids up in here also.

Bre, the energy you are spending on yelling at others on the board because they are not seeing or saying things the way you want them to be is wasteful.

Just pray for these people and all others that are in these deadly situations and move on.
To start insulting others on the board to prove your point is ridiculous.

good for her. she doesn’t have to put up with that crap

#9 I agree. She is sending mixed messages. It is what it is, I understand the forgiveness part of this whole thing but I don’t understand the marrying twice part. She surely shouldn’t be giving any advice to women because she sounds confused. They both seem a bit shady to me anyway, just like Kirk Franklin.

Domestic violence is very common in the church-more common than people would like to admit.

Women are pressured to stay and keep the family together-it’s their “christian” duty- and that’s why it never reported, even when there are children invovled. Also some women are scared to go to members of the church for help because they think that their “business” will be put out their in the congregation. Just look at that one woman who killed her husband(a pastor) because she said he constantly abused her. I’m glad it didn’t go that far for this situation.

I’m glad that she’s taken herself out of that situation and can finally get on with her life.

BRE,

Christians are SUPPOSED to pray. It is not covering it up. It’s just basically making the statement that we are ALL human and we make mistakes. I’ve never heard Weeks preach, but I know that Bynum ALWAYS, ALWAYS puts on front street how human she really is and that life is a struggle for everyone, which is WHY you should look to God for direction, not because youare perfrect, but because you are NOT perfect.

So, praying is a way of saying, “God I know I’m not you, and I have fallen AGAIN, but I’m going to now get back up.” So that’s the puorpose of people saying to pray, because we all need it.

None should ever put their spiritual leaders on a pedestal, because most of them, the good ones, will explain to you that they are delivering God’s message, but THEY ARE NOT GOD, so they DO make mistakes!

Does that make sense?

It should have never gone past the FIRST shoving match. That’s why this was bound to happen. Trust, if a man or woman gets comfortable enough to strike you once best believe they’ll think it’s OK to strike you a second time. There’s no perfect relationship but if I have to get so mad that I want to literally whoop you, that’s a problem. I hope she learns from this. She’s too old to be going through things of this nature.

lol #2 cosign

# 7 no one deserves to be hit

#18
Excellent post!

#18 that makes perfect sense.

BTW, If a man pushes and shoves you, the slaps and punches are right around the corner then the stomping and kicking is right at the next light with death being the destination.

may God bless her AND him for that matter. I’ve heard her speak and i have their “Teach me how to love you” book and CD. i haven’t finished the book, but the CD is real. According to the CD, she’s been thru it with a former husband. i wish her the best. i think she’s making the right decision!!

…yall saw “whats love got to do with it” and she did too-she aint crazy! LOL!!!

Well, at the very least, she’s got the sense to get out. Love doesn’t give you black and blue eyes and a ring around your neck.

I don’t know about the remark about marrying him twice, but I do believe that she needs to forgive him and move on. you don’t just stop loving someone overnight just because they hurt or mistreat you. she is divorcing him so that is a good sign that she will not tolerate that behavior. it is hard for a person in the public eye, especially in the Christian circle, to admit that they are human and suffer like the rest of us. no one wants to be humilitated but when it is all over the media, it makes the situation even worse. the best thing she can do is be a testimoney for other women.

How Sad.. Speaking from past experiences, I truly hope she heals from this horrible situation and not allow “the love she still has for him”, to cloud her better judgment in the long run. Even when someone has hurt you physically and mentally beyond comprehension, its still soooo hard to believe it actually got to that point even WHEN you saw it coming a LONG time ago. Love can surly blind you to the realities of a situation. SMH.. I hope he gets what he deserves, the Bastid.

Evidently some you need to pick up a bible. That’s not judgment. That is just truth.

We are all created by God and we all his children- ALL of us. Evil spirits are of the devil and we can all be filled with them, at time. Like when you judge, diss celebs or even tell a “white” lie ..you are working for Satan because those behaviors are not of God. God does not have a sin scale….all sin stinks in his nostils.
So Satan does not have “kids”, he has willing participants that allow him to use them…. sweetie that can be anyone.

Thank God that he is a forgiving God, because he offers repentence , and in many cases a second or more chances for us all to get it together. He is not like man and their heartless judgement, so don’t put him on our earthly level.

Good for her, i’m glad she’s moving on…

I just watched the exclusive interview at MyFox9Atlanta and not once did I hear her say anything about divorcing her husband. If I am remembering correctly, she told the reporters “No Comment.”

Go here for the video and see for yourself: http://www.myfoxatlanta.c...p;pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1

@ 18, GROWNAZZWOMAN, I totally agree.

That’s why I’m not against divorce. When it comes to situations like these, you really have to run away, that’s why I applaud women who have the strength to leave like Yolanda Adams or now Juanita Bynum. It is one of the scariest situations, and it’s even worse and harder to leave when he threatens to kill you or harm your family, you feel trapped. But women need to stay strong, and have the strength to talk about it to a man that they trust in their entourage if they have any, cause keep in mind that there are some men out there WAITING TO HELP YOU OUT AND FUCK UP a woman beater. I know that my father and big cousins would cut any man trying to raise his hand on me, don’t even entertain the thought, I got protection, you’d be asking for death.

Wow!!! I think The fact that this isn’t the first time he’s put his hands on her in an argument speaks more on HER character than his..

im sorry you guys but i dont follow this woman. i do feel as if this was uncalled for but i ve seen domestic violence 1st hand and someone does just as much damage by words and then when the weaker strikes it s there fault. i feel as if this whole story hasnt been revealed yet as well it s really none of our business, but she is going to ride this all the way to the bank damn shame kinda makes me think was he set up poor thing i pray for him cause he is the one whos getting ready to get the sh_t end of the stick!

#9 I agree. She is sending mixed messages. It is what it is, I understand the forgiveness part of this whole thing but I don’t understand the marrying twice part. She surely shouldn’t be giving any advice to women because she sounds confused. They both seem a bit shady to me anyway, just like Kirk Franklin.

** This sista is not sending mixed messages. She is saying that she still loves her “real” husband and would marry that person again. Not the one Satan influenced to abuse and disrespect her.
She is being real people about her feelings.

When you really love someone and you know the real them, you cannot turn those feelings off like a faucet. Sure you need to get out of the abusive situation immediately and never go back, but those feelings and dreams you had for your marriage are real and significant.

Is it her husband whom she caught having sex with a male member of his congregation. Any man who can beat his WIFE like that publicly need to be stoned. I don’t care what anyone says. He knew better. Yes we all sin. But when you intentionally sin there is not excuse for it. He knew he was going to do that to her. He wanted to humiliate her and he did. He is a grown man and should definitely be held accountable for his ACTIONS. She needs professional help along with God’s help. Cause she doesn’t seem too certain. I know that love is blind. But in this case he certainly showed her he DOES NOT LOVE HER. She need to deal with this situation honestly and move on. He is not remorseful. I am sure this isn’t the first time he has done this. So take heed or Juanita you will be found DEAD. SERIOUSLY!

“My love for Bishop Weeks I don’t think will ever die. I said this to someone yesterday, my love for him, separating what I experienced in that parking lot, I have enough love. It’s so much until I think I can marry him twice, but this one is over,” she added.
*************************************************************************************************

I hope she begins preparing herself for the fact that after he is punished (whatever that may be), he may one day soon re-marry. And i mean marry another woman.
I hope she can get some counselling and wish her well.

Juanita Bynum, I trust you will seek the help and support you need as you step towards living a life free of interpersonal violence. Sad to say you are not the new face of domestic violence, you are among thousand of women from every social-economic walk of life, who have experienced this violence. I have worked with survivors of domestic violence/ sexual assault for over 2 decades, please note that ministers, doctors, etc.. are not exempt from this crime. This violence is not limited to the poor, or to minorities.

The statement that you still love your husband is honest. The majority of survivors love the individual that is abusing them, they don’t however love the behaviors of the violent person. Many survivors stay because of that love and assume that they can change this person. The reality is that the perpetrator of this violence is the one who has to make that decision. For many perpetrators of violence their is no motivation to change, because the violence works for them, it gets and gives them what they need; power and control over another.

Mrs. Bynum, take the time you need to put your life in order. You are right in stating that the injuries will fade and heal, but the emotional impact of violence take on someone’s life take more time and remains a part of them. I know your faith in God will see you through, but based on the steps you have taken so far, (criminal justice system) I know you have an awareness that there are other resources available to you. Utilize them, we all know that there are times when we need to reach out for help, know that there are advocates who will provided support. The National Domestic Violence Hotline # 1-800-799-7233 /1-800-787-3224 TTY is available 24/7
staff is available for support and information.

Juanita Bynum you will be in the unique position of bringing information to other victims of domestic violence. You have a unique platform for bringing information into the Church. Again take sufficient time to attend to your health and safety. Afterwards carve a path that encourages and empowers women to live free of violence………

Thank you for the clip, Bayaba.

I watched half of it, I just couldn’t listen to anymore. Sounds like she wants to continue a relationship with him. Sounds like more books and church members to come, ching ching, just a new hustle for her, please give me a break. No comment on all of the questions that matter. She should have kept quite if she wasn’t going to answer relavent questions. Just my opinion.

I cosign with, #18, #29 and 35. These comments are on point and explained my thoughts on this completely.

THAT’S THE KIND OF LOVE THAT WILL GET YOU KILLED

WHEN YOU LOVE A MAN MORE THAN YOU DO YOURSELF THAT’S OBSESSION-(HIM KICKING HER ASS AND HER PLEDGING HER UNDYING LOVE)

SEEK COUNSELING SHE OBVIOUSLY HAS SOME DEEP ROOTED ISSUES THAT WILL REQUIRE INTENSE THERAPY

I’VE BEEN A FOOL FOR LOVE BUT IT ONLY TAKE’S ONE TIME FOR YOU TO PUT YOUR HANDS ON ME BEFORE IT BECOMES A THIN LINE BETWEEN LOVE AND HATE!

I LOVE MYSELF TOO MUCH TO ALLOW ANYONE TO PUT THEIR HANDS ON ME -I RARELY GOT SPANKED AS A CHILD AND I BE DAMN IF AS AN ADULT SOME MAN IS GOING TO PLAY MY DAMN DADDY!

THAT HOT PENNIES & GRITS, MY PEOPLE’S OFFICIAL ASS STOMPIN, AND THE CHARGES I WOULD PRESS FALSE AND TRUE WOULD BE ENOUGH TO LET ANY NEGROE KNOW I AINT THE ONE TO BE PUTTIN NO HANDS ON AND THATS FOR REAL!

I wonder if this beating didn’t happen publicly would she have stayed? Something tells me yes. Especially the way she’s talking about how she would marry him twice and how she’s not just mad at him beating her. What other reason is there? I don’t think she was mad enough. She really, really loved this man (her words) and I know she would have stayed if she wasn’t faced with this public humiliation. I’ve seen it too many times before.

@21, I agree but I also agree that some women think they’re above getting hit no matter how much they put a man through. They think that they can hit a dude, get all up in his face, talk shit, push him and not get pushed back simply because they’re a female. So in that respect I understand that #7 is saying. Not saying it’s right but that’s reality.

My prayers go out to Pastor Bynum, and the cowardly husband should step down from being a pastor at this time. I must admit, Pastor Bynum has a tendency to always SCREAM when she talks, and that could be an issue with anyone who has to listen to her closely everyday. Once again the husband is a coward and less than a man.

Not for nothing, but I bet we’ll see her on Oprah sometime next year with tears in her eyes, asking folks to help her “sow a seed” to help other victims. She will ride this one like a jockey on a horse. I’m sorry, I don’t really approve of people who say they are here to send you a message of God then more or less charge you for that message, the folks who are hurt the most by this are the ones who can least afford it while the “minister” is spreading themselves out in mansions, and adorning themselves in designer duds, high-end cars, and massive amounts of jewelry.

ms_mac, I agree. I think because it was a public beating is why it’s out. In part of her interview a reporter asked her was she participating in the prosecution and she said that she could not answer that, she most likely won’t. I think she will eventually go back.

She kinda sounds brainwashed. There is never an excuse for a man to hit a woman, ever. He needs help, and it sounds like she has alot of healing to do, mentally. People can change, with help.

cosign #44

Wait, marrying him twice?? OH H*LLLLL NO!!!!! How did I miss that part? What the heck? She definitely needs Jesus.

Im quite speechless, i just hope God helps her bear the agony and hurt.

This is a P.S. to those reading this post. Please note:

Leaving an abusive relationship is difficult. A battered woman will leave and return a number of times before making the finally decision to end the relationship. Victims should not be judge harshly for this, their are many underlying reason’s that determine those decisions for them. If you know someone in this situation, be supportive in the ways that you can. Refer them to service providers that can assist during this stressful and dangerous time. Know that it will take time…….allow them the time.

Below is information that can be found on the National Domestic Violence Hotline Website.

The Role of Religion
Religious teachings can be misinterpreted, taken out of context or used as a tool by some batterers to further their control.

Victims and survivors may struggle to understand the abuse in light of their religious beliefs. As a faith community, you can help victims recognize and acknowledge the challenge of their inner conflict, and be clear that the responsibility for the abuse lies with the abusive partner.

Speak Out
Speaking out against abuse sends a message to the victim and survivor, as well as the batterer, that domestic violence is unacceptable and contrary to religious teachings.

“Let the husband render unto his wife due benevolence and likewise also the wife unto the husband.”
1 Corinthians 7:

“Vex not, for God notes her tears.”
Talmud

“Your wives are a garment for you and you are a garment for them.”
Quran 2:187

As you can see I have a commitment to advocacy. I have learned that one voice is powerful, and can change the world. All of our voices joined together would make a beautiful sound for change.

So sad. Her faith in God should help her get through this difficult time.

Stay strong Juanita. You’re a beautiful person in every way!

@ julieisadime, I would almost bet money that she would go back. She is a classic case study for an abused woman. And it’s so sad because she seems to have so much going for her. But speaking from experience, it will take a long time for her to get over him, and only if she truly wants to. She needs to think more of herself and her self-worth if she’s ever going to overcome the hold he has on her. It’s hard and I understand. But she’s in the best possible position to make it happen. She has all kinds of supporters, the church, her community, God. All she needs now is to beleive it herself.

SHE NEEDS A DAMN MAKEOVER!!

So true, ms_mac. Sometimes I think we refuse to listen to God when he is trying to help us, we can’t see past what we want. Church folk included.

#18 I totally agree the Bible says to pray without ceasing.

The really really sad thing about this is that, though I am not a holy roller by any stretch of the imgination–i don’t speak in tongues and can’t quote many bible pasages-weeks before this happened I was watching some of the relationship videos that she had on both her and weeks’ site.

There is one video I saw that talked about them going to MV (Martha’s Vineyard) and she told him to let her out of the car. He came back for her running, she picked up a brick (this is all apart of her sermon)–I mean this was at the very beginning. To me behavior like this doesn’t just come out of no where it escalates-I also think that if you have your third eye tuned you get intuitive signs. Like wasn’t he married when they first met?

The other major issue for him was her ambition. I believe that he was conflicted in many ways –that translated into aggression-then abuse-then this physical violence stuff. I’m sorry she is much more of an orator –a preacher than he is. I don’t think he knew how to handle it. She also talked about how her checkbook is open. And when a woman loves a man she is supposed to help him-and in some cases be the breadwinner-while he gets his footing.

Bottom line is-it was a bad match. I think (out of her own sermon and words) that this was a doomed relationship from the start.

Gotta go all the way back to #9. You are speaking TRUTH.

And this broad ain’t no damn PROPHET. If she was, SHE WOULD’VE SEEN THAT ASSWHUPPIN’ COMING.

She’s a fukkin FRAUD.

OKay I stopped reading @ comment 39 and I agree for any woman that goes through this to please get in contact with some help I repost that number that poster #39 posted because this is an issue that needs to be addressed and not swept under the rug like it never happened Please call The National Domestic Violence Hotline # 1-800-799-7233 /1-800-787-3224 TTY is available 24/7
staff is available for support and information.

Post #18 you are so on point with this message thank you!

My prayers go out to BOTH Juanita and Bishop weeks, because they NEED it Period. God is able to bring them through this and the prayers of the righteous availeth much. Beyond the insults, the pedestals, and the critics these are two human beings that need to BOTH be healed emotionally from all of this. Whether it be deliverance healing from anger, or emotional hurt and broken hearts they both need to be healed. Like I said I’ll close my mouth to the situation and keep praying for the healing. ON BOTH PARTS.

The bible says you can not serve two Gods. The Bynums appear to be more about flossing than saving souls. The Bynums are up to their hair lines in debt because of their lavish and quite wordly lifesyles. Thousands of people look up to them and they teach this prosperity hype but owes everybody. Juanita signed a contract for stage play, they paid her $100.000.00 up front and she never showed so now the company is suing her. They still owe Tiffanys for the wedding rings. I’m lived in the ATL and I peeped those two awhile back. There is nothing wrong with being prosperous but there a difference in prosperous and flat out greed. Wake up people!!!!!!!

SAD that she doesnt take her own advice that she gives other women. Love does not show itself with a closed fist or imprints around your neck. As Lauren Hill said, “I used to love you now I dont”.

The one has spoken. Women love yourself before you love him, Love God before any man.

@ JUSTSAYIN’, people don’t understand the psychological aspect of the situation. It’s much more complex than they imagine, but they just label victim as “weak”. Not to mention all the threats/mental abuse that these women have to face “if they think about leaving”. I know how difficult it is cause a relative of mine used to be a victim. I feel what you typed.

I believe the “marrying twice” statement meant she would have renewed her vows with him or go through the drama of a big wedding with him twice. I’m sure she doesn’t mean she would marry him again after the beating.

BRE I am with you all the way, there’s nothing more distainful than hypocrisy

WTF!!! “the new face of domestic violence,”!?!?!?

More like the poster child for how to get your ass kicked for “not leaving when God gives you a sign your man is crazy and is going to stomp the holy crap out off you in a MickyD’s parking lot”. Some women can’t take a hint. She should have known an ass whooping was coming.

Clue #1 an ass whooping was coming:
“This was not the first time that we had a physical altercation. It’s never been to this degree, never. Shoving. He’s never physically drawn a fist back and hit me, but it’s been pushing and shoving,”

Clue #2 another ass whooping is coming:
“my love for him, separating what I experienced in that parking lot, I have enough love. It’s so much until I think I can marry him twice,”

I personally think she’s sending the wrong message to battered women. Buy hey, I hear some women don’t believe a man loves them unless he’s kicking her ass. I myself send flowers…..but that’s just me.

sugarB
Friday, September 7, 2007
The bible says you can not serve two Gods. The Bynums appear to be more about flossing than saving souls. The Bynums are up to their hair lines in debt because of their lavish and quite wordly lifesyles. Thousands of people look up to them and they teach this prosperity hype but owes everybody. Juanita signed a contract for stage play, they paid her $100.000.00 up front and she never showed so now the company is suing her. They still owe Tiffanys for the wedding rings. I’m lived in the ATL and I peeped those two awhile back. There is nothing wrong with being prosperous but there a difference in prosperous and flat out greed. Wake up people!!!!!!!
——————————

I think most of that debt is his. He was evicted from their marital home in July (but he had since bounced). I believe that she was the checkbook here. She just did a conference in FL with like 300k people in attendance at 60 bucks minimum a person. The math is simple. She had a new york times best seller book-and wasn’t she the publisher??? She came out with a gospel record that went gold “(which is good for Gospel) on flow records-of which she owns.

you do the math…

some of ya’ll better than me cause i just can’t seem to muster up the grace to pray for that man. i don’t know maybe i need to try, God forbid he gets into another relationship and beats up another woman

You are crazy, ezelmo. luvin your avatar

#56 i read that elswhere. They had an arguement, she got out of the car and threw her cell at him (the car) and broke it. He asked her to get back in and she refused. He got out to go to her and she reached down and picked up a brick. SMH

@65. Wow. I did not know that. mmm she is really flossing. Brainwashing is very lucrative.

I read on another blog this morning that he had previously “body slammed” another church member. You will not guess in a million years who helped to convince that woman not press charges- Juanita

Had a girlfriend/co-worker in the same situation. She wasn’t so fortunate to live to talk about it. She left behind a 2 week old little boy. RIP KAYLA.

#71, I’m so sorry to hear that. so sad.

@cat4everrr, are u serious? I hope this is not true, if so, she really should not be giving advice.

68.

setian
Friday, September 7, 2007
#56 i read that elswhere. They had an arguement, she got out of the car and threw her cell at him (the car) and broke it. He asked her to get back in and she refused. He got out to go to her and she reached down and picked up a brick. SMH

———-

dang that must of been a popular video. I think Bynum has a lot of talent. She is flawed like everyone else. She is a smart business woman. But sucks relationship building with men. I think people are being too hard on her. NO BODY SHOULD BE ONE THING TO ALL PEOPLE. When I saw these love relationship videos they had I knew that hey…maybe I should just listen to her about wealth building and spirituality…maybe when it comes to my man and my relationship I may want to consult somebody who has never thrown a brick at her husband.

its all good though.

its the same reason I wouldn’t go to my mechanic for my taxes.

Thank you.
I’m sure she never thought the man she laid down and had her first child with, would kill her with his bare hands.

@ 72

or attempted to throw a brick at her husband

julieisadime
—

i’ma try and find the link

HEADS UP EVERYBODY

September 25, 2007 - Congress to Hold Hearings on Negative Portrayals Of Black Women in Media. Go to

http://www.whataboutourdaughters.blogspot.com/

@grlnva, That poor baby will grow up to know that his father killed his mother. May God bless that child and watch over him or her.

Here is the link for my girl Kayla

http://www.wavy.com/Global/story.asp?s=5964674

I can’t get on for some reason but here’s the money quote, the link is directly below it-

“It is interesting that his two followers sat there [in the video] and admitted that in spite of seeing bruises on the woman’s neck and seeing the woman crying hysterically, they–along with Juanita Bynum, talked the woman out of pressing charges! The woman had reported that Weeks had actually “body slammed” her to the floor”

http://www.hicktownpress....woman-as-skeletons-emerge

81.

grlnva
—–

i’m soooo sorry that happened to your friend

@Tiffy_from_DC

Naw didn’t see the video.It was from his book and a rock

http://sandrarosenews.blo...t-easy-being-married.html

@grlnva Damn, this is the # 1 reason why women should leave, forgive but leave. Better safe than sorry. This is so so sad. Then having his baby put her at greater risk because he as the father has his rights to see the baby. Bad situation all around.

74#

“She is a smart business woman. But sucks relationship building with men.”
________________________________________________________________
I agree. She’ll make a lot of money but she needs therapy. I just don’t know how she’ll handle it if he remarries.

She should’ve left him the first time he laid hands on her.

i thougt i read he was due back in court today?

Yeah she needs to leave him and he doesn’t deserve to be the pastor (or whatever position he has) of that church anymore.

#88 it was set for today but they indicted him and changed the date. They never mentioned a date for the new hearing after the indictment. I’m waiting to hear myself.

Hmmm she is ready to milk you niave black poor sisters. I can see conferences after conferences milking the poor black women…Watch out!!!!!!

I agree. She’ll make a lot of money but she needs therapy. I just don’t know how she’ll handle it if he remarries.

————

I never thought (just from a few hours of watching their “relationship videos” that this was a hot steamy love affair. It seemed like a great concept. The fact is the state of black love is in the crapper in this country. And people were looking for the black Dr Phil and Robin (Phil)…to me it made great television and concept.

He was looking for a springboard. He got it and couldn’t handle it. He frankly isnt that talented or interesting.

I think they both need therapy.

IDK
—

thanks

#91.. THANK YOU!! Cause you know it’s coming! She is a fraud

I have to agree also with GRWONAZZWOMAN.

You know it is a sad day in the world when people enjoy talking about others for wanting to pray for a situation like this. Nobody is not in denial, avoiding or “covering up” this situation…this is absolutely serious and needs to be taken into account. However making negative comments and throwing stones at Juanita Bynum and Bishop Weeks do not help either.

I could sit here all day like many and make comments about both Bynum and Weeks actions but that doesn’t benefit the situation or myself. It’s honestly none of my business. But what does help is pray and maintain being positive.

I know many here do not have that much faith in God and pray but there are some here who do have that faith. However, I am not in the business of knocking on someone who doing something positive as “praying” and “not passing judgment” in a dark situation. Isn’t that what Christians are supposed to do? And just erase the Christian thing. Isn’t that how a concerned person is supposed to react? And for those who are wondering…I am NOT one of those high Christian rollers who attend church every Sunday who sustains the Christian lifestyle daily either. I am just someone who appreciates others who can take an unconstructive event and make it into an encouraging condition.

To each its own…we all got opinions. But I really can’t believe people are getting called out for doing something good. I mean – really? How many of us enjoy being talked about? Now we’re into hating on people who pray? Everyone is not into talking sh%t all the time. I don’t know about some of yall.

#92

He was looking for a springboard. He got it and couldn’t handle it. He frankly isnt that talented or interesting.
_____________________________________________________________________

LOL i’ve never heard him speak and at this point, i really don’t want to. But its funny that you should point out ‘dull as ditch water’ Mr Weeks, because i heard he was struggling to build a bynum like mega church empire prior to marrying her and that despite having tried for ages, this dream constantly eluded him. Maybe the dude just wasn’t cut out to preach. Some people ae called upon by God while others just take themselves………….

I hope when she makes that money, she donates every cent to womens shelters and such. Yeah they both need therapy.

I’m still shocked about this… this is definantely a set back for christian. Please stay strong.

who ever posted that link on the congressional hearings on hip hop’s effect on the black woman, thank you. sometimes i think what is the difference between the uncle tom blacks who sold slaves 400 years back, and our black men who degrade women usin the name of the almighty dollar. Both are selling us off to the highest bidder

What a sad story. He lost his dang mind. *shaking my head in dismay*

This *SCREAMS* publicity to me - why would she want to call herself the “new face of domestic violence?” Is that like the “new face of Cover Girl?”

Give me a break - all of the big time bishops and evangelists are just suspect to me…

^^^LMAO^^^

LOL i’ve never heard him speak and at this point, i really don’t want to. But its funny that you should point out ‘dull as ditch water’ Mr Weeks, because i heard he was struggling to build a bynum like mega church empire prior to marrying her and that despite having tried for ages, this dream constantly eluded him. Maybe the dude just wasn’t cut out to preach. Some people ae called upon by God while others just take themselves………….

I hope when she makes that money, she donates every cent to womens shelters and such. Yeah they both need therapy.
———————————————————————–

He is real real dry. But Juanita even commented that she prayed for God to steer his ministry in the right direction because sometimes preachers just like to hear themselves talk—they get “saved and happy off of their own message” and everybody else is looking around like “huh” ???

I think this work calls for not only annointing but some kind of charisma. I went to Lutheran schools growing up–and his sermons are similiar but with a little more soul–but not much more.

JUANITA NEEDS HELP…SHE WOULD MARRY HIS AZZ TWICE. WHAT THE HELL SHE ON? SHE IS A BEAUTIFUL WOMAN BUT HER HEAD IS NOT ON RIGHT, SHE NEED TO GET HER LIFE IN ORDER.

@95

I’m sorry public figures cant have it both ways. You sign up for scrutiny when you cash your big checks at the expense of your audience. Same with the Min. Sen dude who is hand signaling in the next stall about gay activities….you don’t get a public pass for a public life that you benefit from everyday.

There is a price to pay with everything. Calling yourself some type of Godly relationship expert is another price particularly when worldy marriages aren’t going the same drama.

@ Tiffy_from_DC
Friday, September 7, 2007
@95

I’m sorry public figures cant have it both ways.
———–

ummmm hmmmmm

#50 wrote “Leaving an abusive relationship is difficult. A battered woman will leave and return a number of times before making the finally decision to end the relationship. Victims should not be judge harshly for this, their are many underlying reason’s that determine those decisions for them. If you know someone in this situation, be supportive in the ways that you can. Refer them to service providers that can assist during this stressful and dangerous time. Know that it will take time…….allow them the time.”

I was in a very long term relationship with my daughters father, things started to get rocky and then one day i said something he didnt like and he thought it would be a good idea to hit me in the face. I called the cops and i never looked back. He showed me his true colors that day, he forced me to come to the realization that i never knew the REAL him. If a man can raise his hand to you he doesnt love you the way you deserve, BOTTOM LINE!!

i walked away from him, that was 3+ years ago. And i love myself and my daughter WAY TOO much to have every considered returning. Woman that go back and forth to the man that abused them are doing so because they choose to. Your only a victim if you allow yourself to me made a victim.

All breakup are difficult but it is my humble opinion that when there is domestic violence involved reconciling should not be an option. Please people if he got angry enough to hit you once. It will take him much less anger to do it again ESPECIALLY knowing that you will tolerant it.

I have heard of accounts first hand, from my mother and auntie, where they were at conventions with Juanita and her husband and she had no problem belittling him in front of the church and when she was made aware of the situation she stated that she was praying to God that he would help her with it. I was also told that it wasn’t until she met him that she started wearing a ton of makeup and fake hair, etc.

I don’t feel that any time a woman should be hit, but we as women know what buttons to push at certain times…the key is to know when not too. If you man or whatever is upset and trying to walk away before the situation becomes worse…then let him walk away..don’t go running after him and getting all in his face.

Also, I believe that she is playing the victim card in this situation. I have listened to her sermons and do believe and act upon some of the things she says, but i don’t believe that this incident was entirely his fault. I also believe that people need to remember that not all “christians” are christians and God chooses to use whom ever he chooses to get to the point. Does that give that person a free pass to heaven…no it doesn’t. So even though that tree isn’t bearing the “right” fruit; it doesn’t mean God won’t use that tree for his good.

What messed up is that Juanita stole him from his first wife. Yes, she was his mistress until he decided to leave his wife for her. It’s well known!! Karma is something else!!

i mean… i appreciate her being honest. of course she still loves
him. being a victim of abuse isn’t a phase u just snap out of, and
differentiating love from desperation is difficult for even the
“strongest,” smartest people. Unfortunately I think her message is
harmful here. What I get from it is, forgiveness = acknowledging
that someone hurt you, and releasing your ill will without
investigating the ways in which YOU have and continue to hurt yourself
through desperate, unhealthy desires.

Her “love for him” will never die. Problematic. She can love him in
Jesus’s name, but she needs to get help to separate that from the love
that let’s her get beat and shoved. Too many women go around
desperate to forgive dudes without rehabilitating themselves.

108—

right on. Thats totally true. Like my mama used to say.

“how you get em is how you keep em”.

i mean… i appreciate her being honest. of course she still loves
him. being a victim of abuse isn’t a phase u just snap out of, and
differentiating love from desperation is difficult for even the
“strongest,” smartest people. Unfortunately I think her message is
harmful here. What I get from it is, forgiveness = acknowledging
that someone hurt you, and releasing your ill will without
investigating the ways in which YOU have and continue to hurt yourself
through unhealthy desires.

Her “love for him” will never die. Problematic. She can love him in
Jesus’s name, but she needs to get help to separate that from the love
that let’s her get beat and shoved. Too many women go around
desperate to forgive dudes without rehabilitating themselves.

He is real real dry. But Juanita even commented that she prayed for God to steer his ministry in the right direction because sometimes preachers just like to hear themselves talk—they get “saved and happy off of their own message” and everybody else is looking around like “huh” ???

I think this work calls for not only annointing but some kind of charisma. I went to Lutheran schools growing up–and his sermons are similiar but with a little more soul–but not much more.

—————————————————————————————————————————

Juanita herself seems very one dimensional. Granted i’ve only seen 3 clips (one being their wedding not a messege) but it seems too much tailored towards the long suffering black woman with no real ‘move it along’ plan. Nonetheless i can see why she has a following. She commands attention. Whether you agree with her style, her message or not, she commands attention.
I went to catholic school and i’m not even catholic. No offense to catholics and all those who’ve had charismatic priests, but ours was that dry you speak of.DRY!! My goodness you’ve brought back some hilarious memories for me LMAO!!!

Preachers (like shrinks) probably shouldn’t marry each other. There just seems like there would be some tension over who has more followers blah blah blah I mean why would she be praying to God to steer his ministry in the right direction?

There is a greater opportunity here if Bishop Weeks would take advantage of this for the greater good all. We hear a lot about victims and in fact I have written a book titled FAMILY TERROR available at http://www.familyterror.com as I am a survivor of domestic violence.
You see the problem is that we are addressing the wrong side of domestic violence. Everything is for the shelters to protect and hide the victims. If the abusers were made to step up and be responsible for their actions there could be much pain and suffering saved.
If an abuser would commit himself to another location and enter a half-way house type setting, counseling and help for the problem could be addressed ( and it is not a anger management issue), the family and children could not be disturbed which would be much better for the children, the children could be told the truth (that daddy or mommy loved them but they are sick and are going away to get better) and not be hauled off to jail in a sense the child will never forget, etc. If the abuser would take responsibility and sincerely want help for the problem, the abuser would not want to endanger or harm his family any further.
Christians should demand the abuser step forward and accept responsibility. Hiding the victim and letting the abuser go free is not the scriptural way things should be handled. Therefore it is no wonder the problem is growing and not decreasing. We are feeding the problem. Just ask yourself this. Wouldn’t Jesus act the same way he did concerning the money changers in the temple when he violently through the marketers out of the temple. This would be a matter Jesus would have reacted violently and not permitted. He would have glared right at the abuser. He would not have thought it was right to participate in secret hide-a-ways. But we Christian want to pretend it does not exist. Again, like the Good Samaritan that stopped to help while all the others walked on by and refused assistance along the road to the man. It is Bishop Weeks that can change history here and has the strongest ministry to offer as it is not a duplication of another, and it is the right thing to do for a man to guide others to be responsible.
80% of incarcerated individuals are from domestic violent homes. As children are growing up and seeing there family not be protected by the laws of our country and they also see the good Christian people pass on by and pretend they don’t see their pain, it is no wonder. These children grow up not respecting the laws. These children also grow up to think that God does not love them because of the actions of Christians to ignore their pain.
The scriptures tell us to address this differently than is being done. Christians are the ones that are going to have to step up to the plate.

I mean don’t get me wrong it’s sad what happened to her. But stealing a man from his wife and I think a newborn baby, wow!! That marriage was doomed from the beginning.

Setian

I dunno she’s fascinating to me. A real powerhouse. But you are right. She is catering to the “long suffering black woman”–hmmm (internally–what the hell does that make me??)LOL

But I think with evolved black women (can my arm reach to pat my back :)) we all go through times where we frankly aren’t so evolved…some of her messages need to be heard and are empowering. And if you can parse out the dating advice-she is very relevant. Some people though with anything are addicted to self-help, additcted to God in a way that self reliance is a mute point. Prayer and FAITH changes EVERYTHING. But so does ACTION.

Many black women (and black men) still have a we shall overcome attitude about personal development. But inspired faith is just as important as inspired–”get your butt up” and excecute the plan.

Yes, dimples delight, I agree. I just hate it when “church” people use it for their own good. re: #107 “it doesn’t mean God won’t use that tree for his good.”

That shit makes U think …. I want to stop hittin’ my chick . But she always hit me first …. it’s a reflex !!!!!!!!!!!

It’s better to leave, no matter how hard it is…

“I went to catholic school and i’m not even catholic. No offense to catholics and all those who’ve had charismatic priests, but ours was that dry you speak of.DRY!! My goodness you’ve brought back some hilarious memories for me LMAO!!!”

LoL because I can relate. I didn’t go to Catholic school but I was raised a Catholic and I remember those early experiences as a child. I stayed getting popped for dozing off. Dry is right. lol.

I am sorry for her pain but she surely sounds like she may re-marry him again if he “straightens” himself out.. Girl LET IT GO and let god!!! as the old folks used to say.

She’ll have another HUGE expensive wedding…

I say pray for him and keep it moving…I am sure he will see her statement and know that she is OPEN..

He could have killed her and she is talking about her LOVE for him..she should be talking about how happy she is that her life was spared.

Love his ass lata OK!!! Why is it so hard for women to put their selves FIRST.

Just My Opinion

That may not be the man she is supposed to be with but people take stuff in their own hands and all of the signs are there to LEAVE/DON’T DO IT…

This situation shows that a woman beater can take many forms!! It’s usually the person you would never think could do something like that!!

Also it’s stuff like this that makes me very hesitant about getting married!!

@ DEB, great ideas and you’re 110% right. It would be better if we could focus on the ABUSER. The law needs to change the way they approach this because a lot of times they lock abusers up but never force them into counseling.

Truth is, some men are so ingrained it’s almost like abusive behavior is written into their DNA. It’s almost impossible for them to change who they are because they’ve been that way for so long. You even said it, “80% of incarcerated individuals are from domestic violent homes.” Men who beat women don’t do it for thrills. They do it because they feel weak and want to regain their power. I think in addition to some of your suggestions, another way to reverse the trend is to have more MEN raising boys. There’s not enough of that either.

And let’s not forget. There are female abusers out there too. One of my good friends recently admitted this to me. Shocking because she’s like 4 feet high. But that just goes to show you. Like I said, it’s not about thrills, it’s about asserting control and having power. I told her she needs to get her shit together cause one day her man’s gonna flip the hell out and then she’ll be in an Al Green situation.

LMAO @ 117.

Well I love Prophetess Bynum. She is truly a God-fearing woman. And for those of you out there who are always judging and talking about Christianity, please. That’s bull. Juanita Bynum never said she was perfect. Besides, none of us are perfect. Even Jesus himself wasn’t perfect when he was on this earth as a human and not a spirit. Once again I say, I wish the Prophetess Bynum the best of luck both spiritually, mentally and physically and emotionally and may God bring her through this time of need. This is her breakthrough! God Bless!

I told her she needs to get her shit together cause one day her man’s gonna flip the hell out and then she’ll be in an Al Green situation.
——–

hot grits and all.

Right on number 36 and he should get whatever is coming to him.
no. 34 and 39, you sound crazy just like him, who makes someone beat them for money or anything else. It is called don’t talk or speak unless you have something to say. Jesus help us.

@13 I agree with you 100%.

1. A prophet or prophetess is a person obligated with the responsibility of being a follower from a holy person or thing with the purpose of making social change.

2. Opportunism: a trend of thought, or a political tendency, seeking to make political capital out of situations with the main aim being that of gaining more influence or support, instead of truly winning people over to a principled position or improving their political understanding.

hmmmmm, I’ll say #2! LOL

Hi, Mallato

104.TIFFY_FROM_DC

@95

I’m sorry public figures cant have it both ways. You sign up for scrutiny when you cash your big checks at the expense of your audience. Same with the Min. Sen dude who is hand signaling in the next stall about gay activities….you don’t get a public pass for a public life that you benefit from everyday.

There is a price to pay with everything. Calling yourself some type of Godly relationship expert is another price particularly when worldy marriages aren’t going the same drama.

_____________________________________

See dear you missed the whole point of my comment.

I said NOTHING about public figures/celebrities having a public pass. If you do dirt, it’s only a matter of time before it comes to the light…regardless of who you are or what you do. YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW. But when people get upset and criticize others for saying that they will pray for Juanita and Weeks is just not right to me.

You missed the whole point of my comment. It had nothing to do with public figures having free passes while living their lives in the limelight. If people choose to talk down about others life like their perfect, than that is fine. But don’t get mad at someone who doesn’t have any negative input. My only point was don’t complain about people who want to pray over this situation.

And by the way that Senator, Larry Craig is from Idaho…not Minnesota. He was at the Minneapolis Saint Paul International Airport when he got caught committing sexual misconduct.

@julieisadime….. Hey lady

Setian

I dunno she’s fascinating to me. A real powerhouse. But you are right. She is catering to the “long suffering black woman”–hmmm (internally–what the hell does that make me??)LOL

But I think with evolved black women (can my arm reach to pat my back :)) we all go through times where we frankly aren’t so evolved…some of her messages need to be heard and are empowering. And if you can parse out the dating advice-she is very relevant. Some people though with anything are addicted to self-help, additcted to God in a way that self reliance is a mute point. Prayer and FAITH changes EVERYTHING. But so does ACTION.

Many black women (and black men) still have a we shall overcome attitude about personal development. But inspired faith is just as important as inspired–”get your butt up” and excecute the plan.

______________________________________________________________________
LOL look at me being rude…..haha i had no idea you was one, i read it like you ment you’d seen her sermons out of curiosity that came as a result of this case. My apologies Tiffy. I didn’t mean to offend. I definately would not put you in the ‘long suffering pile’ lol. For one, i doubt long suffering folks got enuff time to start noticing dry vs charismatic. Long suffering is demanding work! Plus anyone who can question themselves (even in jest) is in good mental health in my book!

First, she has had a crazy life. I know that God can speak to anyone and call on anyone, but since this incident with Weeks, perhaps she should have been seeing a shrink to sort out her own issues.

I think why i have reservations with her is because while i agree that yes women (even men) sometimes need to hear that message of empowerment, when or what follows? Like is there room after that message to evolve to one of self reflection? Especially self questioning e.g

What was my role in this situation?

What did i contribute to it that brought me to this horrible place?

Why did i do what i did?

Am i embarrassed about talking about it?

Why is it so hard for me to face my own contribution without dragging in the other party to share the blame?

How do i learn how to forgive myself?

What am i going to do to help get past this?

Its difficult for anybody whose been down to gain that strength again. But just as with their newly found faith and empowerment, there are more steps to climb that will not be easy but are needed nonetheless. Long suffering should not be a permanent feature. What about the preaching steps that requires one to learn how to be happy again. How to smile again? See the world as beautiful again–and beautiful all just for you to enjoy and be thankful for. So that one can go out in it and instead of wearing one badge–that of the long suffering woman/man, its the badge of a happy person. Peaceful you know? Would you say her sermons gear towards the evolution you spoke of? But you are right about inspired faith. Her following does prove that she touches many lives at probably what is an important time in their lives for them to hear her message.

I don’t follow the Christian preacher circuit but it seems as if the man was jealous of her worldly success and acclaim, which shows that he is not a man of the Most High. I’m sure that she has probably been saying things to antagonize him for years, which some women are wont to do when they think that they’re more successful than their mate, lol. If he was a man of the scripture, anything that she could’ve come with would’ve easily been cut by the Word of the Lord. First off, she’s really not even supposed to be teaching the Word of the Lord (Num 27:16, I Tim 2:11-15, etc.). If she was a woman of God, like many sisters claim to be, she would have to hearken to him if he was on point (I Cor 14:34,35). That shows that the spirit of the “megachurch” is based on petty competition and vanity (Matt 18:20, Acts 7:48).

this is why i never go to pastors for anything. they’re human just like the rest of us so if i want to repent to god, i’ll do it without the “aid” of someone else. i don’t need random ppl preaching to me.

anyway i hope everything goes well for her. that’s a sad situation

I don’t care what kind of buttons a female pushes, A MAN HAS NO RIGHT TO HIT A WOMAN. Whether buttons were pushed or not is not even important. As long as the woman does not hit the man first THERE IS NO EXCUSE. Mr. Weeks is not Juanita’s father so he had no right to even shove her. In my eyes, he is a hypocrite. Standing on the pulpit preaching on Sundays and going home knocking his wife upside the head. Put his a$$ in jail!!

#44 & #59 — I totally agree with you. She’s gonna ride this all the way to the bank and foolish people are going to continue to finance her. She’s more shady than just a little bit.

To 130. Yes you are right he is from IA not Min. Thank you also for the details of the case including airport location, address, airline and airport code. His state is really insignificant—no one really knew who he was or cared before operation “i dropped the toilet paper”.

The point remains the same

you wrote:

“I could sit here all day like many and make comments about both Bynum and Weeks actions but that doesn’t benefit the situation or myself. It’s honestly none of my business. But what does help is pray and maintain being positive.”

I disagree. its the world’s business-particularly when after this went down both redesigned their website-and Juanita became the face of domestic violence.

There are so many messges that people’s lives represent. Mine, Juanita, Yours, Weeks. We are all human. We all make mistakes. my beef is don’t “teach me how to love my man”–when you haven’t figured how to love your’s—-which should have been from far far far away.

no one really knew who he was or cared before operation “i dropped the toilet paper”.

FUNNY AS HELL!!!!!!

@Tiffy_from_DC, u are funny as hell, got me cracking up.

Amen @ 91 and 108.

@91: you know the conferences are coming and silly black women will be packing the joints out and buying Juanita’s $500 prayer kits.

@108: she sure did steal the right reverend Weeks from his wife. I guess the Lawd told her to do that since she is a Prophetess! That’s why the first wedding was done undercover.

Can you imagine the conversations they must have had when they were planning to deceive the public? “Yeah, I know we shouldn’t be doing this, but those dummies hang on every word we say. Yeah, I know I stole you from your wife, but see here, we’re going to write a book on marriage anyway and rake in the dough. These dummies won’t say anything because they’re not supposed to put their mouths on us! Boo, we’ll make enough tonight to take a trip to Bali next week!”

FRAUDS!

@128 — I’ll take #2 (opportunism) for $500, Alex!

Juanita could write a book, hold a seminar, record the DVD on opportunism. What a mess.

“I went to catholic school and i’m not even catholic. No offense to catholics and all those who’ve had charismatic priests, but ours was that dry you speak of.DRY!! My goodness you’ve brought back some hilarious memories for me LMAO!!!”

LoL because I can relate. I didn’t go to Catholic school but I was raised a Catholic and I remember those early experiences as a child. I stayed getting popped for dozing off. Dry is right. lol.

_____________________________________________________________________

How did you sleep??? Didn’t ya’ll (don’t) have to get up kneel every 20 mins or so.haha! LMAO i used to sleep in protestant church!! My mom would pop me too! And she was mad as hell when she found out the reason i would ‘get lost’ with the crowd as we came in was because i would look for the pillars (it was an old church) on the sides to sit next to coz they could hide me better and provide uncomfotable but solid non-human (hence reliable) pillows when i dozed off. Once i hit my head head though.Kinda hard too coz i woke up startled hehehehe. God was obviously not amused Its ironic coz now that i’m older, i kinda miss my school chapel and my old church even though all they preach about is politics and political parties.

@ Judah.. Hey brother…

I agree with you totally woman are suppose to be slient in the congregation.

Respecting women, he wrote: “Let the women keep silent in the congregations, for it is not permitted for them to speak, but let them be in subjection, even as the Law says. If, then, they want to learn something, let them question their own husbands at home, for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in a congregation.” (1 Cor. 14:34, 35) This admonition is in agreement with Paul’s later words in his first letter to Timothy: “Let a woman learn in silence with full submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach, or to exercise authority over a man, but to be in silence.”—1 Tim. 2:11, 12.
……. This is what the Bible says about woman preaching and teaching..

Warning……. This is my thoughts on the situation and if you are offened I am sorry!!! But the Bible says what it says and that is it….. LOL

can someone please help me to understand the “marrying him twice” comment she made. i’m just not getting it.

“LOL look at me being rude…..haha i had no idea you was one, i read it like you ment you’d seen her sermons out of curiosity that came as a result of this case. My apologies Tiffy. I didn’t mean to offend. I definately would not put you in the ‘long suffering pile’ lol. For one, i doubt long suffering folks got enuff time to start noticing dry vs charismatic. Long suffering is demanding work! Plus anyone who can question themselves (even in jest) is in good mental health in my book! ”

——————————————

Yes I am a recovering “long” sufferer. I joke about it. It lasted for a month and half. Its funny and sad. Mostly because women who have “it together” don’t do suffering. But it is mostly attritbutable to a negro. LOL

I was googling around and found some footage of the clark sisters and juanita bynum also showed up. So for a month and a half I think I saw every sermon on both her and week’s site. It was feel good-particularly for long suffers.

But religon (and I know Im gonna get some hate posts from this) enables people to keep on suffering. That suffering is God like and admirable and some sort of test of strength and worthiness. LONG TIME SUFFERING IS NOT OF GOD.

So Juanita came in at a crucial time. Its just when I got to the love and relationship portions–some stuff wasn’t sounding right–like all the drama they both spoke of. Some of it I took-and I skipped to other parts particularly about taking action, saying no to the pity parties. etc etc.

I took major action right around the time my income started to become proportional to my “long suffering”. I guess I feel for people who go through stuff like this for years and years all in the name of Jesus.

@CLEARMINDED, Too funny.

“It’s so much until I think I can marry him twice, but this one is over,”

Im lost on this quote. What was she trying to say?

@140

I can’t wait for the trial!! All that is done in the dark, eventually comes to light!!

“I disagree. its the world’s business-particularly when after this went down both redesigned their website-and Juanita became the face of domestic violence.

There are so many messges that people’s lives represent. Mine, Juanita, Yours, Weeks. We are all human. We all make mistakes. my beef is don’t “teach me how to love my man”–when you haven’t figured how to love your’s—-which should have been from far far far away.”
————————————————————————
Get em Tiff! I see you girl. lol. People always fail to see how their lives are shaped by everything around them. I’m dealing with this same thing on the Jay-Z post! lol.

@ Setian - I thought I was the only one that thought they could hide in the big pews!! lol. I’m not a practicing Catholic and it’s been years but my fondest memories were taking bread, drinking the wine (grape juice) and wanting to spit it out. I couldn’t have been more than five years old when I played hide and seek in the church. On top of that, it seemed like it would be HOURS and DAYS before we even got out of there. Those services were hella long. lol. But those were the days. Fun times. lol

@CLEARMINDED (140)….. That is too funny but the probably the truth!!!!!!

julieisadime
Friday, September 7, 2007
no one really knew who he was or cared before operation “i dropped the toilet paper”.

FUNNY AS HELL!!!!!!
————————-

Well he said he dropped the toilet paper and hand gestured for it back. And there was a sting going on—for toilet paper droppers.

Tiffy_from_DC, girl I’m in tears over here!

“can someone please help me to understand the “marrying him twice” comment she made. i’m just not getting it.”

“It’s so much until I think I can marry him twice, but this one is over,”

Im lost on this quote. What was she trying to say?

———————————-

It means she ain’t done getting her ass whooped. She might be ready to give it another try.

@ms_mac. Yall need to stop! I just bust out laughing at my desk and everyone is looking at me like I’m crazy.

It means she ain’t done getting her ass whooped. She might be ready to give it another try.

You are sooooo out of line for that one. LMAO!!!!!

@julieisadime…. You are always cracking up….LOL me too.

Let me decipher Juanita mumbo-jumbo for y’all: She’s saying she’s getting a divorce despite the fact that she loves him so much that she could marry him all over again. In other words, although she loves him she knows they shouldn’t be together.

The “Prophetess” who always has a “Rhema-word” for everybody didn’t see the beatdowns coming and it took more than one stomping, but she’s finally getting out of this “ordained” marriage.

Why would anybody follow this craziness? She’s always been off.

@143

I know you agree. You respect the Word of the Lord unlike the majority of the women of my nation (Ezek 3:5-7). I tried to respond to that article that you posted but the moderators shut me down. I can’t front though, it ain’t have a damn thing to do with Serena Williams, lol.

@Mallato

I Know, these people on here crack me up. they should have a concreteloop comic nite.

ridiculous..i’m glad she divorcing him no one deserves to get their ass beat..i don’t care if they are so holified or sanctified..that should not be going on in a marriage period..and then he had the NERVE to go to the next church service after whoopin her ass like shit didn’t happened..yeah u should forgive but he needs to serve the consequences just like any other man who feel they should put their hands on a woman..and the devil makin him do it is not an excuse honey…U FUCKED UP Plain and Simple..

137. TIFFY_FROM_DC

There are so many messges that people’s lives represent. Mine, Juanita, Yours, Weeks. We are all human. We all make mistakes. my beef is don’t “teach me how to love my man”–when you haven’t figured how to love your’s—-which should have been from far far far away.

________________________________________

You are absolutely right about our lives representing messages. But for myself personally, I don’t look to celebrities and characters like Bynum and Weeks as an example…to me public figures operate on fame, money or entertainment. Girl I didn’t even know who they were until they drop this domestic violence on Concreteloop.

And I completely understand what you’re saying. I don’t respect anyone who plays the whole, “Do what I say, not what I do” act.

You are correct on this being world’s business now that their website is designed for the face of domestic violence…I was unaware of that. Like I said before… I didn’t even know who they were. So you got me on this one. Sorry if I offended in any way.

@ Judah .. I know I looked for the response this morning…. LOL

Yes people are definitely. . ”.hardheaded and hardhearted”. . .

But I would not put my trust in NOBLES. She is not a prohestess
(Acts 5:29) 29 In answer Peter and the [other] apostles said: “We must obey God as ruler rather than men. . .

FOR those who beleive she is Prophetess……..

(1 John 4:1) 4 Beloved ones, do not believe every inspired expression, but test the inspired expressions to see whether they originate with God, because many false prophets have gone forth into the world.

Yes I am a recovering “long” sufferer. I joke about it. It lasted for a month and half. Its funny and sad. Mostly because women who have “it together” don’t do suffering. But it is mostly attritbutable to a negro. LOL

I was googling around and found some footage of the clark sisters and juanita bynum also showed up. So for a month and a half I think I saw every sermon on both her and week’s site. It was feel good-particularly for long suffers.

But religon (and I know Im gonna get some hate posts from this) enables people to keep on suffering. That suffering is God like and admirable and some sort of test of strength and worthiness. LONG TIME SUFFERING IS NOT OF GOD.

So Juanita came in at a crucial time. Its just when I got to the love and relationship portions–some stuff wasn’t sounding right–like all the drama they both spoke of. Some of it I took-and I skipped to other parts particularly about taking action, saying no to the pity parties. etc etc.

I took major action right around the time my income started to become proportional to my “long suffering”. I guess I feel for people who go through stuff like this for years and years all in the name of Jesus.

______________________________________________________________________

Tiff you betta stop before you get me all teary eyed here!!! I so want to give you a hug right about now. A big one for that month and a half and it would not matter if it was longer either. Hurt is hurt and i for one cannot claim to have “it together” to have not gone thru it. But you are right. Years and years of it, in the name of religion is very sad. This reminds me of the late mother Teresa who was famous for championing poverty (not just the poor) but poverty. Like it was a blessing to be wretchedly poor.*shakes head*

Your comment about having it together is very interesting again. Is there really such a thing as a life where anybody ever had it together always? We all wear masks. I guess thats coz society teaches us that you have to have it together always.
Anyway props to Juanita for her help– and aha! It appears you knew what was valuable and what to filter out huh? like i said you? long suffering club? Never!

Ms-mac i miss the chapel. I realise now, that i grew a lot spiritually in that chapel. Not during endless, monotonous, repeatitive,looong as hell, dull mass after mass after endless mass, but a few of us used to visit it sometimes when it was empty (it was always open) mostly coz we had some kinda assigned duty like distributing the bibles etc for next mass etc…anyway,it was very quiet and its the only times that i felt God’s presence basically and i prayed (like properly lmao) maybe also because it wasn’t forced–like it wasn’t mandatory which was the case with school. A visiting priest once robbed us. It was very exciting!!! (yeah THATS how DRY our priest was)

Speaking of wine, my protestant church is where my cousin accidentally got tipsy on his confirmation day lmao. He was the last kid to recieve the wine and i don’t know what the pastor’s helper was thinking coz he just gave him the cup which apparently still had a lot of wine in it and the kid just gulped it all down!

Lmao @ ms_mac . I though that was what she was getting at . What a damn shame !

@Mallato

No disrespect to you, but the white man knows that he is Esau and that Esau is promised NO REPENTANCE for his crimes not just against the Lord’s Chosen, but against all races (Heb 12:16). This is why he tries to claim that the edomites were done away with, which is a lie because the seeds of all the races that the Lord created are still on the earth (Ecc 4:16). The Lord said that he HATES Esau FOREVER (Malachi 1:2-4, Rom 9:13). Now if the edomites no longer exist, why the hell would the Lord need to hate them forever, lol. Honestly, there are so many scriptures and historical texts that prove that the caucasians are the edomites that we’d be here forever. When you read the Apocrypha, the second book of Ezra tells you that “Esau is the end of the world” (II Esdras 6:9). Now how can they be the end of the world if they no longer exist? The Lord says that they will have to go into slavery for the atrocities and the lies that they’ve perpetuated unto this day (Isa 14:1-3, Amos 9:11,12, Rev 13:9,10). After that, they will be destroyed forever (Obadiah 18, Rev 20:10, etc.). The other races will be slaves and then put back into their own ancestral lands and made to keep the laws, statutes, and commandments (Isa 61:4-7). Don’t get mad at me, take it up with the Most High (I Thes 4:8).

In regards to “love”, there is one thing that many people in the church don’t understand. Man’s “love” is not God’s LOVE. People are quick to quote John 3:16 and I John 4:8, but the Bible also tells you what the love of God is, to keep his commandments (I John 5:3). The scripture tells us that the commandments were only given to the Israelites (Psa 147:19,20). In regards to God and Christ loving the “whole world”, John 3:16 is referring to the “world” (society) of the Israelites, not the entire earth population (Isaiah 45:17, John 18:19,20). There are other scriptures in the gospel that use the word “world” where it obviously doesn’t mean the entire earth (Luke 2:1,etc.). When you read the scriptures, the Lord tells us not to even seek the friendsip of the other nations, much less their “love” (Ezra 9:12). When was that done away with? When the scripture says to love the stranger, it means teach them the laws in an orderly fashion, not intermarry with them and give them a hug (Lev 19:34). It must mean that because the Israelites used the other races that lived amongst them as slaves, as stipulated by the Lord (Lev 25:44-47, I Chron 22:2,3, II Chron 2:17,18, II Chron 8:7-9, etc.)

Just like Christ is the mediator for the Israelites, the Israelites are the mediators for the other races. That’s why the scripture telss us that these other races will come to us for the knowledge, wisdom, and understanding of the Most High’s word when this society starts to crumble and in the Kingdom (Isaiah 2:2, Jer 16:19, Zech 8:23, etc.). Christ didn’t deal with the other races when you read the gospels (Matt 15:24, Acts 5:30,31). Notice that he called the Greek woman a “dog” and unfit for the bread of life (7:24-29), he called Herod a “fox” (Luke 13:31,32), and he barely spoke to Pilate at all (Matt 27:13,14). The scripture says that Christ will smite the nations and rule them with a “rod of iron” (Num 24:17-19, Psa 2:7-9, Rev 2:25-28, etc.) So when the Christians ask, “what would Jesus do”, he wouldn’t mess with the other races, lol. Think about it now, how can Christ die for the sins of “the whole world” when to sin is to break the laws of God (I John 3:4). Once again, the law was only given to the Israelites (Deut 4:32-35, Psa 103:7, 105:8-10, 147:19,20).

@Mallato

That’s what I tried to send this morning, lol.

@Judah… thanks…

judah stay on topic. this is not a race post yo

classic diva

There is NOT one Scripture in all the Bible which says we are all God’s children. ONLY be being born-again can any person truly claim to be God’s child.

No one is immune to Domestic Violence it happens to the best and worst of us! Dayum shame the pastor couldn’t keep his composure in check!

I thought divorce was a sin but I guess you can pick and choose.

@169

That’s why I directed it at Mallato. Yo.

@ Setian, now that’s a funny story. I know we had a few people who showed up just for the wine (only the kiddies got the grape juice). I think my cousin was one of them. lol.. j/k.

I doubt if this was the first physical confrontation, but it was the first public one. That’s why she can say, I might marry him again, because he has likely hit her before, and she forgave and continued to love him, and wanted to be with him.

Leaving an abusive relationship is never about the ability to physically “walk” or “get” away. The hold is typically on the mind or the heart of the person being abused. And until they can break that hold, it doesn’t matter if loved ones come and drag them away, they will go back, they will accept the abuse.

Son of a bitch……….I knew this wasn’t the first time………I’m glad she is divorcing him……………..27 yrs. seems harsh……I’d definitely give him 5. But at least she is healing emotionally and physically…..I can almost understand her still having some love for him still yeah I just like a lot of people wanna go but why wth is wrong with her but still I can ALMOST understand a little bit…….like there won’t be total hate for that person even though they’ve did some pretty sh-tty stuff to you. I wish her all the best.

People are getting all wrapped up in the fact that he is a bishop and she a prophetess. That’s really just their chosen professions — they aren’t saints… Few people are, they face the same issues and pressures of life as everyone else…maybe even more.

People must understand that preachers, pastors, priests - don’t speak ‘for’ GOD. You can’t allow what is happening in their lives to cause confusion in your spiritual life. This is between them and GOD, your spiritual life is about your personal relationship with GOD. Don’t get it twisted.

Yeah so anyways organized religion in itself has women in 2nd place and I’m just not with that.

But new face of domestic violence she is not……this is just highly profiled because she’s a highly profiled woman. So many faces are blackened and bruised everyday and so many women DIE everyday or are hospitalized that we do not know. -_-

I’m so sorry for her pain. And I hope I’m wrong about how I feel but,

But something about this incident seems so well orchastrated.
I mean can u imagine her looking any better in a divorce court?
‘m not saying she wanted to get hit,….just that she may have expected it.

Hearing her speak today, I could not help but noticed how Well Adjusted she is.
Usually, it takes time to get to that point. She jumped to it without missing a beat.
Perhaps it’s her style, perhaps she is extra prayerful…I won’t pretend to know….
but something about her new position as poster girl for battered women bothers me.
It just does not Feel sincere….

Just My Opinion guys, don’t stress:

kind.

Oh and He needs to go under the jail for being stupid enough to put his hands on her.
We would have been BOXING. No tears for him if he did get played.

Domestic violence is too serious to be played with. Even if Juanita is using this as a hustle, if she can bring some attention to this and help even one woman or man out of this type of a situation, then it’s worth it.

If her intentions are not noble, she has to answer for that… and just like everybody else….she will.

ROTFL@ Clearminded posts Number 140

amen amen and amen!!!!!!! $500 prayer kits

Well I love Juanita, But by being a evangelist meaning the Spirit of the Lord speaks to her. Okay the Lord already knew of this before she even meet him right? Of course he did!! So the warning was there telling her NOPE, DON’T MARRY HIM!! You can’t tell me he didn’t warn her!! See you have to get beat up when you don’t obey God’s command , But thank God she is alive for by his grace.. And for Mr. Weeks What is done in darkness is reveal in light, And what you sow in is what you will reap!! God Bless..

I love her…Stay strong Miss Nita…What matters is what GOD thinks of u…dnt worry about what those HEATHENS at church think of u (yea I said it…Heathens go to church too…LOLZ) cuz some of them would feel the same way if the shoe was on the other foot…Things happen…but u need to let him go this too shall pass.

oh PULEEZE everyone saying hope for the best for both him and her and calling him a child of God its rediculous. People please wake up, its all about MONEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY and it has always been.

you think Jesus called on them to have an extravagant, million dollar wedding? Please. And them holding conferences on “how to love” and all this bs? Knowing that they themselves were probably not right and having problems. Puleeeeeze. Black people will put up with anything when it comes to their ministers.

For a women who supposely been involve in a WWE match two weeks prior to her interview . This shit seem suspect ……………………

I see no signs of the so-call abuse ….. sound like divorce stategy to me … especially if it’s a women judge !!!!!!!!!!!!

Everyday women who arent not well known are being abused by their husbands and boyfriends. They should get out of the relationship and seek help,but many dont.They remain in the abusive relationship ,because “THEY LOVE HIM” or they are too afraid to leave! I have never been in an abusive relationship myself ,but have family members ,friends,associates who have been in involved in abusive relationships at one time or another. A woman has to decide that she wants to stop the cycle of abuse and get out. Having a strong support system helps. Lets not forget that abuse isnt always physical it can be emotional,verbal,mental, also. Both men and women can fall victim to this type of relationship!
I think that what Bishop Weeks did was wrong,no ifs ,ands & buts about it,but hes human,and humans make bad choices .His cost him the respect of alot of people ,who didnt expect this behavior from a man of God. It also cost him his marriage ,conmsidering that his wife is filing for divorce! He needs to seek forgiveness from God and seek help ,because I never believed that this was an isolated incident. I also think that Juanita Bynum might have considered goign back if the incident had’nt been put out there for scrutiny in such a public way! There are going to be people in the church who wil say that she should stand by her man and work it out through counseling.There will also be others who say that she should get out,and never look back.At the end of the day ,regardless of what we think its her life,her husband ,and her marriage! They probably had many other confrontations with oneanother .She seems like she can be a hot head and explosive if pushed and so does he. I personally dont think I could stay in a relationship with a man who put his hands on me even once ,because I always feel that the one time will lead to more physical abuse down the line. These type of men start out with the pushing, and shoving.You let them get away with it,they start slapping you, then you have the close fist punch and broken bones down the line. Thats just my thought!

Lemme tell you what I’ve learned and seen in almost 41 years. EVERY man is going to “try” you at least once. No I don’t mean a out right butt whippin, but he is going to see just how far he can take it. How YOU respond has a LOT to do with how and/or when he’s going to try that again. As an example, I know a couple that has been married for 40 years and the wife told me on day that the first time her husband put his hands on her in an attempt to shake her, she went upside his head with a frying pan, literally.

I’m married for the second time due to domsetic violence although not on the level as Juanita or else I’d be typing this from my jail cell. But I can tell you that the day I decided if he grabbed me again I’d set his ass on fire while he slept, was the day I knew that NO MAN was worth going to jail for so I left and never once looked back.

Stats say that most women will be the victum of domestic violence once in there life which means that there a more than a few people here frontin’.

Amen my sister i feel you you have to look at one self and say self i worth more than this and i dont have to sit around and take this and besides the bible says a man hits his wife and says i love the christ is a liair and the truth is not in him!

in reply to #71 & 75 post. I pray for your friends son and my God continue to watch over him and honor his mother. I havea close friend who has been abused by men in her life and I can say it is so hard not butting in and letting her live her life the way she wants and with whom she wants. I have never seen anything happen to her, but I have always been told what happened to her. Her first husband beat her in front of their kids and the jerk she is about to marry, choked her while the kids were in another room, but she almost passed out from it. I pray that she is totally sure she wants to marry this man and if not get the heck out of dodge.

As far as Ms. Bynum and her husband, It seems like she is making excusses for this man and she shouldn’t be. God didn’t tell Mr. Weeks to beat his wife. I do think somewhere along their marriage, the devil came into his spirit and he was a different man than from what she married. My hope for her is that, she knows her value as a woman of god and continues to seek him above any man on earth. I’ve read other posts that her first marriage was abusive, and all I can say is that many women repeat this pattern when they go into relationships. It’s like the norm for them and they think they can change them when in reality they can’t.

I feel for his congregation as well. This supossed man of god who preaches to them, prays with them, and more than likely has given sermons on marriage, would beat his wife like she was a rag doll. It would be hard to even walk into that church and look at him as a figure of the church and Christians as a whole. He deserves to go to jail for what he did to her, and think about that and realize that GOD didn’t have any part in him being so evil spirited toards his beloved wife. If he was jealous of her, he should have prayed about that and communicated with her positively on it and express himself in a positive way where they both could benefit from it and grow as a couple. That whole saying “A couple that prays together stays togther” was missing with Mr. Weeks. Ladies, if your man is like this, get some help and protect yourself. Be blessed everyone.

LOL @Hina
At the first sign of violence I’m out …in love or not. It will only get worse. I pray God’s best for Juanita Bynum…healing has to happen.

What kind of Church Chick meets with a dude in a Hotel at 4 in the morning anywho? No more sheets my ass!!!

Praise Him! I’m happy to hear that she’s leaving that POS. Bishop Weeks is b#tch-made for putting his hands on her. & to think that they were supposed to be reconciling. *SMH*

numb 18 and 32,
you both took the words right out of my mouth. I hope anyone in this type of situiation would leave and seek God for guaidance and spiritual uplifting. Bynum is a strong willed woman to have done this.

you guys are looking at the surface and not seeing the impact this has on the body of Christ. First of all, did she ever really accept her role as wife..the biblical role? Or did she mock the position? Why did she continue to preach to single women once she was married? She said herself that a married person couldnt minister to her when she was single. Why did she and her husband have separate ministries when God calls husbands and wives to be one? The answer to all this is money and the spirit of Jezebel. No matter what happened, if she decided she was going to divorce him (which shows NO FAITH in God to work through the situation) then she needs to do like the bible says which is to sit down. She and her husband. You cant be a major face for Christians and be divorcing. You might as well be an advocate for homosexual marriage because they look at these leaders, unable to keep their spouse WITH JESUS..so why should they feel any type of way for having a spouse without Him? But they are not going to sit down because JBynum is making too much money off of single black women and now she wants to be the ‘face of DV’. Its about cornering more MARKET people, and by the comments posted on here, the majority of you are exactly who she draws. If you look with spiritual eyes, you see this is more than about DV..its about the spirit of Jezebel tearing down the institution of Marriage. Whatever happened to “I can do all things through Christ?”..yeah yeah, juanita…except you couldnt seem to trust HIm enough to save your own marriage.

And for the record, my own husband had issues and by the grace of God he has changed and repented and loves the Lord. If I’d given up as quick as JB I’d have never lived to see this day….where our marriage is a testament to God’s Glory.

Blessings~

Do wats right i love you juanita a lot. You need to get back to the basic, get away from the shows now, its all about Jesus Christ now. Everthing in life happens for a reason.

1. i hope JB starts preaching against men’s authority over women. She preached this violence onto her..afterall, the woman should submit to the man according to the bible. The man did nothing wrong.. the women pissed him off and he has a right to beat her, according to the bible. (whatever that book is called)

2. i hope she stops preaching against lesbianism.. what a fool..women have so much more luv for eachother ..how about this..concentrate on global warming instead juanita..its so much more important than your pitiful attacks against homosexuals while your ass gets beat at home by a heterosexual lifestyle..what a shame..how many more beatings will it take for God to show her how much hatred she carries towards people that luv people of the same gender..hmm..i wonder…we should teach you what love’s really about

I HONESTLY THINK SHE HAD TO DO SOMETHING REAL FUCKED UP LIKE ——CAUGHT CHEATING—–FOR HIM TO WHOOP HER ASS LIKE THAT!! THEY WERE IN A HOTEL PARKING LOT….THAT IS IN THE SAME CITY THEIR HOME IS IN….????HMMMMM ???? PLUS THEY SHOWED HER RUNNING OUT FOLLOWING HIM BACK TO HIS CAR IN THE PARKING LOT. IM NOT SAYING IT WAS RIGHT FOR HIM TO DO THAT BUT WHAT THE HELL WAS SHE AT A HOTEL FOR IN THE FIRST PLACE??? DAMN SURE NOT FOR A SEMINAR OR BIBLE STUDY!!!!

Prophetess Juanita Bynum should stay out of the news…I wonder if she now trying to make another name or profit from this incident.

God is not for divorce, why can’t two God-fearing work it out, considering both of them have been married before..Where does the buck stop!

We should always pray for people period as christians that is our duty. What if that was your situation would you not pray or want anyone to pray for you? however, I agree that people are trying to cover up the fact that if He was so much God sent for Juanita like she says, what happened now? Was she hearing from God or her emotions. I do not believe God wants us to get married and then divorce he hates it only under certain circumstances: Adultery, fornication, etc. Does what he did fall under that? I agree he needs help, but have we all did things that was like okay I need help too.

Well Mizz JULIEISADIME, I think you need to get a life and stop judging this lady you don’t know what God has told her or what she may be feeling so just mind yo own business. And to Miss Juanita Bynum if you really read these comments I want to say to you, we all go throught things and I am not a supporter of domestic violence. And I understand that Bishop Weeks is your husband and as a seventeen year old young lady I support you and I wiill continue to keep you in my prayers and I love you