Dropkick…….

We cant have a thousand wives or husbands because it amongs other things is not stated in the New Testament. Solomon was of the Old Testament. The Old Testament was under the Law of Moses. The Law of Moses was done away with when Christ was nailed to the Cross. Christ fulfilled the law of Moses. When He fulfilled the law, He took it out of the way. It was no longer to be obeyed. Christ brought a new law. “And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant….” (Hebrews 9:15). Covenant and testament means the same thing. Hebrews 9 explains it better in details. The bible was written by 40 men over a 1600 time period. Knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit” (2 Peter 1:20-21). You are right no one is perfect and the bible is here to help us all to live according to God’s will not by earthly standards.

ROFL @ the BIBLE quotes… is it that serious people, I mean come on. And some of you have me ROTFL LMAO at the unnecessary arguments over this BS. I’m starting to question the sanity of a few of you up in this post argueing with people over this nonsense because a lot of you sound a H.A.M! LMAO!! D@MN lets let the woman live now.

JUDAH,

Before you continue to spoil these people minds and continue to justify personal gratifications, it is Not biblical to have sex before marriage and so forth. Fornication is sexual intercourse between 2 unmarried people, which is wrong..! Corin 6:18, Matt 5:32, Acts 15:20, Eph 5:3, 1 Thess 4:3. Pre-marital sex is sex between 2 unmarried people. Though the bible may not mentioned the exact words of “children out of wedlock”. How does one has childrent? Through sexual intercourse. And if its done out of marriage, that act is wrong. You are doing exactly what Mark 7: 6-7 is against. You are teaching the command of men, not God. You are really twisting these scriptures. Matt 19:4-6 is not speaking on having sex with a women and she becoming your wife. It is speaking on divorce. Joseph and Mary did not have intercourse before they were married. She was a virgin (Luke 1:34). She conceived through the spirit of God. As far as men sleeping with a women who then becomes his wife? That is of the Old Testament in which we are no longer under. We are of the New Testament in which we are to now obey. You can read my block 151 for explanation on that. And though there are many who conceive out of wedlock, the act is wrong, but there are ways to get our lives right with God. Committing sin and living and staying in sin is one thing, but committing a sin and then having a change of heart is totally two different things.

PEOPLE ON HERE WHO ARE AGAINST MARRIAGE, ARE PROBABLY THE NON MARRIAGE TYPES, AND ARE JEALOUS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE. MISERY LOVES COMPANY. IF A PERSON LOVES YOU SO MUCH, THAT THEY WANT TO GO BEFORE GOD TO COMMIT THEIR LOVE TO YOU, THAT IS A BLESSING. MARRIAGE IS MORE THAN JUST A PIECE OF PAPER, IT IS ONE OF THE MOST HONORABLE THINGS IN LIFE. REMEMBER, MISERY LOVES COMPANY. MARRIAGE HATERS ARE USUALLY RELATIONSHIP LOSERS.

@150, YOU CAN BE ANYTHING ON THE INTERNET, AND OH, YES ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE GETTING SOME RESPONSES REGARDING YOUR COMMENTS. YOU KNOW THAT SKIN COLOR COMMENTS GET ATTENTION LIKE BEYONCE. NEXT TIME BE A LITTLE MORE CREATIVE. OH, LET ME GUESS YOU ARE GOING TO THROW ABOUT 15 F-BOMBS AT ME, BOOM ME UP SCOTTIE.

Halle Berry is a lucky half breed that HOLLYWOOD accepted as the new BLACK!!! The BITCH use the black community and races when it was to her advantage. It is without a doubt a fact that at some point the black race wll be extict based upon all this mixed race dating. It is truly sad to read someof the post of the those that talk about mixed race as if it is a way out, and speak about the babies will come out looking BEAUTIFUL??? WTF. For those who have that mind set I must truly say that you are a sad case. I ask the real BLACK people 100% percent to continue to love your black man and woman,don’t allow society to tell you that black on black love is not right, continue to strive for excellence and educate our children. From birth teach them to to accept the skin they are in and love hard and strong like black people do. There is nothing more beautiful then black love because we struggle together and we achieve together. A child is not beautiful because of the texture of their hair and skin tone that may be like Halles. Fight the bull that is displayed throughout this BLOG… Black people and black love is REAL!!!!

Why won’t they marry if they feel fully committed to each other?

Judah, I respect your position on this matter but I sometimes wonder why it seem that you choose to ignore scripture that rebutes what you say.

Because you mention that the Bibles saga has always focused on the people of Israel than you should know that God ADOPTED All mankind into his family, stating that All who recieved him and believed in his name, he gave the RIGHT to become children of God. Children not born of natural descent(blood) nor of human decision or a husband’s will but born of God.
John 1:12-13

Gods Old Testament people came from a specifically chosen ethnic group but some OUTSIDERS joined them in their faith (Ruth). The Israelites recognized that God’s love and acceptance extended to people all over. Psa 65:8

The Gentiles are CLEARLY considered foreigners and not Israelites. However they are still considered neighbors and worthy of being “established among HIS people”. And everyone knows we must love our neighbor.
Jer 12:16

Deu 7:1-6 refers to marrying those that ARE NOT BELIEVERS in God and who are idol worshippers-those seven nations at the time were powerful and could easily influence the newly freed Israelites who had been under Egyptian rule and used to THEIR customs.

That’s why many churches today strongly urge people of the same RELIGION to be together. And since we have all been adopted as Gods children if WE BELIEVE then outward appearances do not matter(Samuel 16:7 )in terms of cohabitting and marrying each other.

We have just been appointed our new pastor a year ago and all I have to say about that is that God uses even the agents of Satan to do his work.

The Bible can be a very mysterious book but if you pray for Gods guidance before you open it, he hears you and guides you to understanding.

Saprise and Judah

Thanks to both of you. I know the topis strayed a little, but at least people are talking (texting). Made for some interesting reading and I’m sure it will continue. I respect all the research, scriptures and attention to my questions.

BlackLove4ever

Is there a particular “shade” of black person, another black person can be attracted to? I mean personally I like dark skinned sisters, but find co co and carmel sisters beautiful as well. Oh, what aout a light, bright and dam near white? You know like Angela Davis or Kathy Cleaver? These were strong black sisters and members of the Black Panther party. Are they black enough to love? I mean I’m pretty light myself, so mixing with a sister of that complexion will undoubtably produce children lighter than Halle. How black is black? Isn’t it true that genetically speaking two blacks can make a white? What about those sisters and brother who (for lack of a more modern term) are ‘passing’? I mean a brother can think he has another color, but when baby comes out looking like patton leather shoes, then we know right? Or can we even considered those ‘real’ blacks that have been raised by white parents, like Connor Cruise or Zahara Jolie-Pitt or David Banda Mwale Ciccone Ritchie (can’t get more black than African), can we let them into our love circle? Since we really don’t know who is and isn’t (because skin tones aren’t certain), what’s the lipness test to determine who’s black and therefore worthy of our love and loins?

“Deu 7:1-6 refers to marrying those that ARE NOT BELIEVERS in God and who are idol worshippers-those seven nations at the time were powerful and could easily influence the newly freed Israelites who had been under Egyptian rule and used to THEIR customs.

That’s why many churches today strongly urge people of the same RELIGION to be together. And since we have all been adopted as Gods children if WE BELIEVE then outward appearances do not matter(Samuel 16:7 )”

Sorry my time is limited to participate in the discussion this morning, but this is the truth. If you are a believer in Christ then you are part of God’s family and we are allowed to marry freely amongst one another. Race is not an issue.

@ dropkick

Re: lipness test

You asking the right questions and this is great debate but for the record it’s Lithmus test. I know this isn’t grade school and I ain’t criticizing but a little knowledge never hurt nobody.

yall kno halle is white 2 right just like # 69 sed she mixed but she dont look like it

PEOPLE ALWAYS WANT TO TALK ABOUT HALLE WITH A WHITE BOY –HELLO???? HER MOMMA IS WHITE!

My mother who’s been happily married for 24 years, has always said a good living with is better than a bad marriage. So F all of you. If Halle is happy what the hell does it have to do with any of you?

@Saprise

What are you, another uninformed sister trying to teach the Word of the Lord? Lol, why don’t ya’ll just stop already? Why can’t I just voice my opinion and keep it movin, damn. All that stuff I wrote in 3 posts and the only thing that you could beef about is the issue of marriage and multiple wives, (big saprise) lol. You did nothing but blaspheme your entire 2 posts and you showed how extremely ignorant and mistaught you are. I like when you said, “we can’t have a thousand wives or husbands….”, lmao. You could never at any time have had a thousand husbands according to the scriptures, sis. You cannot mix the Word of the Lord with your feminist nonsense (Ezek 13:17-23). The scriptures stipulate that men did and can have multiple wives and that they will again (Deut 21:15, I Sam 27:3, II Chr 11:21, Isa 4:4, etc.). The only reason why men do not have multiple wives now is because of the population control tactics instituted by the people in power, but that’s another topic. I wouldn’t advise multiple wives now because it’s mostly whores and whoremongers out here, but once again, it is not against the scriptures, so that’s a lie you told. There’s nowhere in the New Testament where Christ or Paul changed the scriptural laws (Matt 5:17-19, Luke 10:25, Acts 24:14,15, Acts 26:22, etc.). They both personally practiced celibacy to get closer to the Most High, so is that a law too(Matt 19:8-10, I Cor 7:1,2)? What scripture does Christ state that the laws of Moses were done away with (I Thes 5:21)? As a matter of fact, Christ says that the laws of Moses are FOREVER, so that’s another lie you’ve told (Matt 5:17-19). As a matter of even more biblical facts, Christ said that to believe in him, you MUST believe in the laws of Moses (John 5:45-47). If the laws of Moses were done away with, why is Christ called the Word of the Lord and the scripture states that he came in the “volume” of the book, meaning the entire Bible (Heb 10:7). Christ was the voice that emanated from in between the cherubim and directed the Israelites in their wars against the other nations and killed the Israelites in the wilderness (Psa 80:1, I Cor 10:1-10). He is also the one that killed all the firstborn of the Egyptians before the exodus as read in the Apocrypha. So that’s another lie you’ve told. No disrespect to you sis, but I don’t play with this Word in any way, shape, or form and neither should you. You so-called Christians cop out on the Old Testament because it’s too laborious to read, to you, and you cannot comprehend the parables or the prophecies (Prov 26:7, Isaiah 29:11-13, Mic 3:5-7, Matt 13:10,11).

Where in the Bible does it state that fornication is pre-marital sex? None of those scriptures that you gave indicate fornication as pre-marital sex because there is no thing as pre-marital sex. Save the church confusion for someone else. Fornication is sexual wickedness; pertaining to adultery, pedophilia, masturbation, homosexuality, bestiality, whoremongering, and whoring. That’s it. When you read the laws of Leviticus and Deuteronomy, there is nothing that tells you that fornication is pre-marital sex. You’re confusing man’s definition for words for the Lord’s definition for words. The laws stipulate judgements against all those things that fall under the umbrella of fornication. The only judgement for pre-marital sex is that the woman becomes your wife (Ex 22:16,17). That’s how you know that pre-marital sex is not fornication.

The Bible also tells us that a woman is not supposed to wear pants (Deut 22:5) but that law was probably done away with right? What’s funny about you so-called Christians is that you’ll quote the Old Testament in a minute if it feeds into your vain doctrine. Now in regards to you citing Heb 9:15, you only cut yourself, again. The scripture tells us that the new testament was needed for the “transgressions under the first testament…” (Isa 44:21,22). Now who was the first testament and covenant made with sis? Who? The Israelites (Ex 24th chapter, Psa 147:19,20). Christ was necessary to redeem the Israelites from the sins that they had committed under the original covenant with the Most High (Matt 1:21, Matt 2:6, Acts 5:31). In the same book that you cited, the book of Hebrews, Paul tells us the the New Covenant is for the Israelites (Heb 8:8). The only people that could sin under the old laws were the people that the laws were given to (I John 3:4). The laws were only given to the Israelites (Lev 1:1, Psa 147:19,20, Amos 3:1). I mean, it’s so damn clear.

@ Shannon75

Sis, I’ve never ignored any scripture. As a matter of fact, not only do I address the scriptures that you bring out, but I also explain them, expound on them, and give additional scriptures and historicity to the best of my ability. You do not answer or respond to any scriptures that I bring out because you can’t. You choose to ignore the scriptures that state that a woman cannot teach (I Tim 2:12-14), plus many other scriptures. It is what it is. You have no scriptural or historical knowledge of the Old Testament (Matt 22:29). It’s like if you only saw the second half of a movie, how can I respect your review (Isa 34:16)?

The scriptures tell us that the ADOPTION pertains to the Israelites (Rom 9:3-5). Just in your breakdown of John 1:12, it shows your lack of understanding. John 1:12 was an allusion to Hosea 1:10 sis. The scriptures are clear that Christ came and died for the sins of the Israelites (Matt 2:6, Acts 5:31). You can’t get any clearer than that. When the scripture in John 1:12 says, “as many as received him…” it’s referring to those amongst the ISRAELITES that received him because that’s all that Christ came for (Matt 15:24). When you read the gospels, there were Israelites that believed on Christ and those that didn’t, just like today (John 7:12, John 10:19). It’s already inclusive that you must be of the seed, but everyone of the seed is not anointed to grasp this Word. That’s what Paul was referring to in Rom 9:6-11. As a matter of fact, the book of Acts and Romans the entire 9th chapter shows us that the Israelites were whom Paul went to (Acts 26:6,7,23, Acts 28:20, Rom 10:1, ad infinitum). The seed of Jacob was always stressed and the scripture states that it is the seed that will inherit the kingdom (Psalms 22:23,30, Isaiah 45:25, Isaiah 46:3, Ezek 20:5, Psa 126:6, literally too many to cite). This is why Christ said that he must separate the “wheat from the tares”. He’s referring to the Israelites that must be taken out of all nations (Isaiah 10:20,21, Isaiah 11:11, Ezek 28:25, Amos 9:8,9, Zech 8:7,8, etc.). It’s really too much information for one post sis because we can literally go on for days. You need to be taught so that you stop unintentionally (or intentionally) lying on the scriptures. That white man’s Christianity makes black people too double-minded (James 1:8). That’s why you people will be on a Jena 6 post laying out your weak stratagems for the black community and then you’ll pop up on a post like this to say that God loves us all, lol. Confusion. There are two types of Gentiles when you read the Bible. The Gentiles according to the flesh and the spiritual Gentiles, the scattered Israelites, that were keeping the laws of the nations around them. The other races will repent when Christ comes back, in the spirit of truth, because they will be forced to. They will have to bow down to the Israelites and be made slaves (Prov 14:19, Isaiah 14:1-3, Isaiah 49:23, Isaiah 60:10-12,etc.), rebuild the land of Israel that will be destroyed in the oncoming nuclear war (Isaiah 61:4, Ezek 36:7-12,32-36, Micah 7:11-13), and worship the Most High in the OUTER COURT of the Temple away from the Israelites (Isaiah 2:2, Isaiah 56:6,7, Rev 11:1,2). People like Ruth knew their place and their role. They understood that they were not equal to the holy seed of the Israelites and that is why they were allowed to worship in the outer courts. Psalms 65:8 has nothing to do with the nations being accepted so I have no idea what point you’re making and I don’t think that you do either. Whoever is feeding you these scriptures needs to be taught also, lol. David was mocking the other nations for being fearful of those tokens because the scriptures tell us to not be (Jer 10:2). King David hated the other nations (races) and was known to torture them and use them as slaves to build up Israel (Psa 9:19,20, II Sam 8th chap., I Chron 22:2,3). See sis, I see that you’re trying to use Old Testament scriptures but you’re only showing that you really don’t know what the hell you’re talking about.

It’s funny that you cite Jeremiah 12:16 because the scripture states that if the other nations learn how to stop teaching the Israelites about Baal, they will be allowed to worship in the midst of Israel. They have not learned to stop teaching us about Baal. They refuse to because their spirit is not given to worship the God of Israel in the spirit of truth. Baal is who’s birthday you’re celebrating when you keep Christmas (Jer 10:1-5). This is what Paul was referring to when he prohesied in II Thes 2:1-13 about the “mystery of iniquity” and also what John the Revelator cited in Revelation 13th chapter. The other nations, particularly the edomites known today as the whites or caucasians, have set up false images of Christ so that people think that they’re worshipping the the Most High and Christ when they’re really worshipping Satan (Job 9:24). Do you know who that surfer dude is in the bedsheet and footies that they teach you is Christ, really is historically? A renaissance era general and pedophile that died from syphilis named Cesar Borgias. Look it up and look at his face.

Now if Deut 7:1-6 s talking about “nonbeliever”, lol, then why did Nehemiah cite the same scripture when the men and women of Israel started to intermarry with the Moabites, Ammonites, and the people of Ashdod (Neh 13:23-27). Let me guess, you know more than Nehemiah right? Those people were not the “seven nations” that you named. You need to stop adding unto the Word of the Lord (Deut 4:2, Deut 12:32, Prov 30:5,6, Rev 22:18,19). In Ezra 9:1-3, the scripture tells us that the sin that the Israelites committed was mixing the HOLY SEED, not sleeping with no damn nonbelievers. Ezra 10:2-5 tells us that the Lord advocated putting away both the husbands and wives of interracial unions, as well as the offspring. Once again, the races mentioned were not the “seven nations” you mentioned. Go up and ask any real, practicing white jew about the Torah and what it states and ask them if the other nations are equal with the Jews. I gurantee you, when they say no, you will not refute their claim because you respect the white man as god. That stuff you’ve learnt and are now trying to regurgitate is a cleverly disguised fable passed off as a religion (II Pet 1:16). When you read Rev 16:13,14 it is referring to the caucasian Christian missionaries that went across the earth teaching people their satanic bastardization of the Lord’s Word. That’s why their doctrine is likened unto frogs, because they jumped from one land to another killing, raping, and indoctrinating.

I Sam 16:7 is talking about David’s youthful physique because he was an extremely young man when he was first called by the Most High to fight Goliath. He was only about thirteen. It’s getting ridiculous now how you are perverting the scriptures. This is why the scriptures say that the sisters shouldn’t teach because you naturally try to effeminize the word if left up to your own devices. See, what alot of you so-called Christians don’t understand is that when you frivolously dismiss certain books and verses in the Bible, like many of you do the entire Old Testament, you’re saying that some points in the Bible offend you (Matt 11:6, Matt 24:10). You’re saying that you want this world to continue on the course in which it is going and Christ said to hate this world (James 4:4, I John 2:15). No disrespect but your method of scriptural study will only help those that are intent on living their lives to satisfy their lusts. You don’t have any answers. You only raise more questions that you can’t answer, especially when dealing with people that actually know what they’re talking about. You need to be taught sis, stop being proud.

for all u folks downing her a having a child out of wed lock, u guys can’t seem to broaden your minds, as hallie was saying marriage isn’t about the wedding it’s about the commitment, if two folks make vows and commit, then technically there married, in Gods eyes, with or without a preist or judge.

What so sad about the Halle Berry comments especially the one regarding Eric’s daughter. Is that you really don’t know what type of relationship they really have. Halle keep doing what you do and God Bless you and your children.

man some of yall on here are frickin idoits. WHO CARES ABOUT THE RACE!!!! IF YOUR PRETTY THEN YOU JUST ARE! I DON’T CARE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER AS LONG AS SHE HAPPY. AND PLEASE HALLE MAKES NAOMI C. LOOK SICK!
WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU …BLIND? ALSO OF COURSE SHES LOOKING A LIL BIT OLDER BECAUSE SHE A HUMAN AND SHE AGES’ YOU IDIOT. USE YOUR BRAIN AND DO THE MATH. I DON’T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT WHAT ANYONE SAYS. HALLE BERRY IS A GORGEOUS WOMAN. “oh she looks average” WTF!
HALLE KEEP DOING YOU!!!!!

OH AND FAR AS THAT OH SHE HAD A BABY OUT OF WEDLOCK AND WHATNOT………JUST HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE HAD SEX OUT OF WEDLOCK?….ITS JUST AS BAD IN CASE YOU DIDN’T KNOW IT’S JUST THAT YOU DIDN’T GET ANYTHING PRECIOUS OUT OF IT. THINK ABOUT IT THEN SHUT THE HELL UP.