Check out this video of Bill Cosby on a recent episode of Meet The Press. The entertainer spoke with NBC’s Tim Russert on the reaction he received from the black community to the book he co-authored, “Come On, People” and about gangsta Rap, drugs and youth. Shout out to Real Talk NY for the video.
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man he aged, the cosby show is still the ish
SOME of his points are valid, but he annoys me GREATLY!
He’s Right !!
The COS!
he has valid points for sure.
EVERYTHING HE IS SAYING IS TRUE TRUE TRUE. ILLEGITIMATE CHILDREN ARE AN EPIDEMIC IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY AND FOLKS JUST KEEP RIGHT ON GOING AND EXPECT THE KIDS TO TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES. THIS IS WHY BLACK CHILDREN HAVE NO REGARD FOR HUMAN LIFE, NO COMPASSION, NO HEART…..BECAUSE THERE WAS/IS NO ONE THERE TO RAISE THEM. MAMA IS IN DA CLUB TRYIN TO FIND ANOTHER BABY DADDY AND DADDY IS LONG GONE……WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!
after his son was murdered he really started going all out.
i guess he wants us all to strive for our full potential because his son wont get to.
i have issues with some of what he says but it really makes you think.
I saw this {MTP} last night. I think everyone should get this and read it. It’s a very positive and motivating read. I could go on & on but I won’t. Just get the book!!!
This the same guy that had an affair right?I’m all for hip-hop.But lets be real.
Umm… somebody plz delete # 5 nobody is talking about Brit in this topic.
anywho back to cosby…
I think that his points are vaild but his approach is often offensive and easily to misinterpret. Michael Eric Dyson did a great lecture about Cosby’s viewpoints on Black America.
Love Bill. He speaks the truth. A lot of us dont want to hear the truth. Keep speaking Mr. Cosby!!!
Ohhh my bad LOVEY DOVEY… there was a Britney post there before. I guess the staff already deleted it. MY BAD.
He is speaking the truth. His comment about the dirty laundry getting out of school with thin bookbags and getting on the train reminded me why I don’t ride the subway between 2:30 and 3!! I’m only 21 and I feel like those lil 12 and 13 year olds make me look ignorant with their actions!!
But I’m getting so tired with this debate!!! Yes “Gansta” Rap isn’t the best thing for young kids to be listening to, but it’s not only the rappers that need to be blamed. Its a whole system of mess that allows this music and “gansta” type entertainment be!! And guess what??? Most of them are ran by White men……..Cosby needs to get in their ass not just Black people!!
Yes it starts with us, but it goes soooo much further…..
i agree with to a certain extinct with his comments but like Micheal Eric dyson said were was he when he was famous and just as known as dr.king he could have come out and said these things and had a bigger impact.
most young dudes would be like Cosby who ,his comments aren’t going to resonate with dudes my age hopefully he puts his message in films and other things.
if not he really isn’t going to have any impact especially on young black females and males.
Y’all don’t want to here this sh!t but it’s the truth…….and it hurts.!
Bill Cosby is always downing poor blacks – is it because he finds them an embarassment to his circle and status. Although most of what he says is true he offers nothing but criticisms as though that can do something – Instead of just talking about the language, bad schooling, lack of motivation, drugs , jails etc perhaps he could put some of his money in programs to help. I don’t believe that this is what parents in these neighborhood want for the children. Yes he gives(or should i say gave) to the black middle classs but I would be impressed if he also made some small effort to help the poor in inner cities and small southern towns.I don’t even believe that Cosby can relate to these people anymore -he has been removed from them for so long and is only reiminded of their presence when he sees negative images on TV. Instead of running his mouth with these newscasters perhaps he should take a tour of some poor neighborhoods to see the life that these kids have to face.
This is where we need to have 400 or 500 comments. People need to pay more attention to their children because it all starts at home. We don’t need to sleep on Mr. Crosby he is telling the truth with no holds barred. Why can’t we post more on this instead of Beyonce and the rest of those. REAL TALK PEOPLE. WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dr. William Cosby, PhD. is telling the truth. People who talk about him having an affair or what white people do also, are just trying to distract from the truth. There is an epidemic in the urban Black communinty.
#15-I disagree that Bill Cosby is ‘downing poor black kids’; I believe he is speaking in regards to Black youth in general. He is speaking about doing actual parenting, not just producing children with every man/woman that we find attractive. I, for one, am proud that a Black man is standing up and speaking the truth. He’s not concerned with hurt feelings and bruised egos, and I believe that is what many of us need to hear. Some do not see the error of their ways and Cosby is trying to awaken some of us so we are able to become successful and not the stereotypical products of a negative society.
On criticism:
So what Bill is saying is that he is really afraid that people who actually use their own mind and don’t piggy back on what he has said because he’s “Bill Cosby.
On raising children:
I’m sure that his parents raised him to drug multiply women in order to have sex with them.
On the media:
Kind like saying “Hey hey it’s Fat Albert”. Or better yet how about your spy show were you had to act as a slave
On black men:
What credibility does he have to talk about any form of Hip Hop when you have said that he doesn’t “want to hear anything THESE people have to say” when asked if rap has any valid messages.
I watch him on MTP (which I watch every week) and he made me sick
I have much respect for Mr. Cosby for taking a stand and telling the truth.
AM I THE ONLY 1 WHO SAYS FUCK BILL COSBY! He has point every1 has a point but what is he doing about it beside pointing out what we already kno? nothing I hate when the older generation wants to blame the younger generation is the product of the generation before them. We doing what they did.. yes we need to change but if you dont have a solution dont speak on it
Thank you number #15. I like Bill but some stuff he be saying is just disrespectful and stereotypes. You can tell people they have to do better without coming off as offensive. That is why nobody really wants to listen to him. But the message he is trying to convey is good but the way he says it is what makes people not want to listen.
I don’t see how people get so offended by words.
They are just that. WORDS! They have no power, but the power that you give them.
The word nigga never oppressed me nor you. Rape, murder, and injustice (acts) have.
Bill Cosby has been ranting this same tune for years and and that is about all he does when he has an opportunity for a prime time TV spot. Come to think of it, his own kids haven’t really amounted to much except the offspring of rich parents. His daughter was a drug addict and he himself has been sued by women(white) for sexual improprieties – where there is smoke…
I say put your money where your mouth is – celebrities do have clout- gay Elton John stepped up to the plate to help with the aids epidemic which was ravaging the gay community. Cosby would have more legitimacy if he could start some foundation that could have some impact to address some of the problems( real) that he is talking about. Just ranting on national TV and writing a book does not do much – may raise debate for a while but the people he is talking about are not listening to him.
I can only speak from personal experience. In my community (Bronx, NY) More black men are in prison than in college. Many families I know are 2nd and 3rd generation welfare recipients. And when I ask my son not to show up to my job with a rag on his head and his pants hanging off his ass he looks at me like there is something wrong with me. I do not know a single young person in my neighborhood who seriously aspires to a career in Medicine, Law or Education.
i caught that episode of meet the press. i never miss an episode. sunday’s have my favorite political shows on. anyhoo, the cos is absolutely right. too many excuses. lets get it together black people. we all know the problems. time to fix it.
^^^^^Exactly.
Oh I meant exactly to bittersweets lol slow computer.
Bill and Camille Cosby: first family of philanthropy; $20 million gift to Spelman is largest ever in history of Black institutions – Spelman College
Ebony, May, 1989 by Robert E. Johnson
Bill And Camille Cosby: FIRST FAMILY OF PHILANTHROPY
$20 million gift to Spelman is largest ever in history of Black institutions
TELEVISION’S No. 1 star Bill Cosby had just split the pages of the history of philanthropy into B.C. (Before Cosby) and A.C. (After Cosby) when he announced that he and his wife Camille were giving $20 million to Spelman College during the inauguration of Dr. Johnnetta Cole as the first Black female president of the 107-year-old Atlanta institution. Cosby said the contribution, the largest personal gift ever to any of America’s 112 Black colleges and universities, will be used for the Camille Olivia Hanks Cosby Academic Center and the endowment of three chairs in the fine arts, social sciences and humanities. It will also support a library and archival program of international African women research and resources at the Academic Center.
I agree with #16 about the number of comments…..but as sad as it is, that’s not going to happen. Everything Mr. Cosby said is true, especially the whole “acting white” thing he commented on in the first video. I can personally relate to that one.
Oh yeah, #16 Chucktown Representer, LOVE the s/n. You don’t know how happy I was to see somebody else from the Chuck on here. Now I don’t feel alone lol.
Some of his points are valid, but they are no different than points and discussions that many others have made — His approach has become increasingly disrespectful and condescending, and other than just telling these young black men how poor of a job they are doing, what is he offering in terms of helping them to to better?
Writing a book, [ which I will probably read] does little to actually help the situation – unless he will be using the proceeds and profits for some educational or trade programs.
You can tell a child how bad they are, and you can tell them that everyday, all day. But until you SHOW them a better way, all you are doing is helping them to fill that prophecy.
As unfortunate as it is, many of these young men and women, have never been taught any better – and until they know and understand better, they really can’t do better.
Bill Cosby’s foundation donates 40,000 books to Chicago schools – Celebrities
Jet, Jan 13, 2003
A foundation run by legendary comedian Bill Cosby in memory of his son Ennis recently donated more than 40,000 paperback books to Chicago public school students.
D-San
Monday, October 15, 2007
I don’t see how people get so offended by words.
They are just that. WORDS! They have no power, but the power that you give them.
The word nigga never oppressed me nor you. Rape, murder, and injustice (acts) have.
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Now that’s the TRUTH!
I’m feeling Mr. Cosby 100%. It’s just time for the ignorance to stop among us as a people and we think we’re gaining when we’re losing. With the resources we have today, its no excuse not to be getting an education and making something better out yourself. Then we want to complain about the white man, they’re doing what they gotta do in the education department. And parents need to start raising their kids the way they should be and really being attentive to them. Thats why most of them raising themselves because no one else is and thats beyond pathetic. Let me challenge them and say this if you can’t raise them, stop laying down and having them. Thats why I’m tired of rappers talking like their setting a positive example and arguing trying to defend themselves, but then they turn around and get arrested for felonies (T.I.) Even with all the money in the world you just had to buy the machine guns. My question is for what? Certainly not for a store display or because you collect them. That just goes to show you, money you can have, but you still don’t gain common sense or the wisdom to know what you have and how to use it.
THIS FOOL IS DOING MORE DAMAGE TO THE IMAGE OF BLACK PEOPLE THAN ANYONE. HE ACCUSES YOUNG RAPPERS OF DOING DAMAGE BUT HE HAS WAY MORE INFLUENCE THAN THEY DO AND HE IS OUT TO CONVINCE THE WORLD THAT BLACK PEOPLE ARE NO DAMN GOOD! IS THIS THE BIGGEST FOOL OF ALL TIMES????
HE SAYS WE DON’T READ, AND YET HE WRITES BOOKS JUST FOR US! LOL LOL LOL OR MAYBE HE’S WRITING FOR THE KKK. THEY HAVE THE SAME VIEW AS HIM!
THIS OLD B HAS SOWED HIS WILD OATS, PROVIDES NO JOBS FOR THE BLACK COMMUNITY AND SPENDS ALL THE BOUNTY LAVISHED UPON HIM BY OUR CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT ON LUXURY AND HIGH LIVING AND HAS THE NERVE TO CRITICIZE THE MASSES STILL STRUGGLING. WHITE LIBERALS LIFTED HIM UP TO LEAD HIS PEOPLE IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION AND TO PROVIDE SOME JOBS, INSTEAD OF ALWAYS HAVING US DEPENDENT UPON WHITE OWNED CORPORATIONS BUT HE DID NOTHING BUT WINE AND DINE WHITE WOMEN LIKE A DUMB N WORD ALWAYS DOES!
37 Percent of U.S. Births Out of Wedlock
Nov 21 04:54 PM US/Eastern
By MIKE STOBBE
AP Medical Writer
ATLANTA (AP) – Out-of-wedlock births in the United States have climbed to an all-time high, accounting for nearly four in 10 babies born last year, government health officials said Tuesday.
While out-of-wedlock births have long been associated with teen mothers, the teen birth rate actually dropped last year to the lowest level on record. Instead, births among unwed mothers rose most dramatically among women in their 20s.
The overall rise reflects the burgeoning number of people who are putting off marriage or living together without getting married.
The increase in births to unwed mothers was seen in all racial groups, but rose most sharply among Hispanics. It was up among all age groups except youngsters ages 10 to 17.
didn’t a woman just accuse him of giving her herpes?
Hispanic immigrants have seen the largest increase in out-of-wedlock births — from 19 percent of births in 1980 to 42 percent in 2003. This is important because Hispanics account for nearly 60 percent of all births to immigrants.
In addition to the 42 percent rate for Hispanic immigrants, the illegitimacy rate is now 39 percent for black immigrants, 11 percent for Asian/Pacific Islanders, and 12 percent for white immigrants.
There’s no indication of improvement over the generations. Among natives, the illegitimacy rate is 50 percent for Hispanics; 30 percent for Asian/Pacific Islanders, and 24 percent for whites.
2003 is the first time that the absolute number of illegitimate births to Hispanics (immigrant and native) outnumbered illegitimate births to blacks (immigrant and native).
Out-of-wedlock births are highest for those with the least education; among immigrant mothers who lack a high school diploma, 45 percent of births are illegitimate.
I agree with him. I’m glad that someone has said it because it seems that being mediocre and just getting by is starting to be the norm.
I do not even have to say anything. Everything I feel about Bill Cosby has been posted by Bittersweet and Fran (Especially Fran).
SOME OF YOU NIGGAZ NEVER WILL EVER GET IT! DO US ALL A FAVOR AND BLOW YOUR BRAINS OUT! COONS!
IGNORANT BILL COSBY IS HELPING THE WHITES TO COMMIT GENOCIDE AGAINST OUR PEOPLE BY CRITICIZING OUT OF WEDLOCK BIRTHS. BLACK MIDDLE CLASS AND UPPER CLASS WOMEN DON’T HAVE BABIES. IF THEY DO IT WOULD ONLY BE 1 OR 2.
IF POOR BLACK WOMEN SUDDENLY ALL BECAME STERILIZED WE WOULD GO FROM 12% OF THE POPULATION TO 6% IN ONE GENERATION BECAUSE THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH BLACK MEN AROUND FOR EVERY GIRL TO HAVE A HUSBAND.
IF HE HAD ANY SENSE HE WOULD BE GRATEFUL TO THESE WOMEN FOR CARRYING ON THE RACE, GIVE THEM HELP, CREATE JOBS, AND CHILD CARE PROGRAMS FOR THEM, INSTEAD OF WRITING BOOKS TO CONVINCE THEM OF THEIR OWN INFERIORITY! HE IS NOTHING BUT A BLIGHT ON THE BLACK AMERICAN AND A FOOLISH HYPOCRIT. IF HE HAD ONE OUNCE OF DECENCY HE WOULD TAKE THE PROCEEDS OF THE BOOK TO HELP THESE YOUNG STRUGGLING MOTHERS.
I JUST SAW A PROGRAM ON THE NEWS WHERE YOUNG HILLARY DUFF IS PROVIDING POOR KIDS WITH LUNCHES DURING THE SCHOOL DAY AND EVEN A BACK PACK OF FOOD TO TAKE HOME SO THEY WOULDN’T BE HUNGRY OVER THE WEEKEND.
How does what hispanic and white women do make it alright for black women and men to not expect or demand the best for ourselves????
Bill Cosby is one of the biggest philanthropists in history (see #30 & #33). Hillary Duff????? O-M-G!
I didn’t want to go there but I have to go there. Are you serious? First, why are we continuing to create programs for people that don’t want to help themselves.? You are only enabling them. Trust me, I have a few in my family that want the government to give, give, give but they don’t want to do for themselves! they expect other people to take care of them. they don’t want to work, don’t want to go to school, has no motivation what so ever….so how much help do you need?
And i’m not saying that everyone is abusing the system. We all fall down at some point in our lives and there are programs to assist you in getting back on your feet. I just think that it all starts with the individual.
More striking in a country in which most prominent Catholic schools do not admit “illegitimate” children, and in which until 1997 there was no law granting child support or inheritance rights for children born outside wedlock, more than half of children in Chile now are born to unmarried parents, one of the highest rates in the world, according to national statistics. Abortion and the morning-after pill are illegal in Chile.
Preach it Mr. Cosby. The kids don’t respect anyone. It’s amazing how the artist and supporters always find a way to twist things around in their favor.
Over the past several decades there has been a marked increase in the
percentage of all infants born to women who were neither married at the
time of their births nor likely to marry soon after. The women whose
births have contributed to this trend are very diverse. A growing per
centage of out-of-wedlock births involve “older” (i.e., over 35 years of
age) career women. Some of them have such an engulfing commitment
to their occupations that they are left with little time or energy to date or
try to find a husband. Still other women follow sexual lifestyles in which
a conventional marriage has no place. The family situation to which
these women aspire does not include a husband/father or any other
male surrogate to whom they have a serious and continuing attachment.
In any case, as some of these women approach age 40, they fear that
their biological capacities to bear children will soon come to an end, and
they then decide to try to become pregnant before it is too late.
He’s right, we as black people are so quick to yell racism but we’ve hurt oursleves worse than anybody else. It starts with the parents and you’ve got to start young. You can’t wait till your children are 9 and 10 to discipline them, you can’t be in an unhealthy relationships and expect your children to not do the same, and you cannot blame the “white man” for all of your misfortunes.
provinces of Austria in the mid-ninteenth century and many parts of the
West Indies in the twentieth century have maintained nonmarital birth
rates in excess of 50 percent for over a generation.
4 million children born out of wedlock
3,991,570 Russian children were born out of wedlock in the last 10 years. The reports says that 411.5 thousand illegitimate children were born in 2002, a 40 thousand annual increase.
somebody needs to educate the fool cosby. he’s dumb as a post and self hating.
FACT:
the white illegitimacy rate was 16.9 percent in 1990, and only 1.9 percent back in 1956.
i agree with everything he said…earlier today i was talkin to a male from about him and his girl…he said “i’ll move in wit her but i wont marry even if we had kids” i like dont u want to have legitmate kids…to fool asked why it mattered….i was shocked im glad my b/f is nuttin like dat…and dude had da nerve to say i was too traditional…i cant believe males out there thinking its okay to shack up n have babies without the commitment and worse there are females out there fallin for it
The largest number of illegitimate children is still born to non-Hispanic whites (528,000), but if current trends continue, Hispanics will account for the largest number of illegitimate babies within a decade.
I think a lot of you are missing the point, he did address the cooperate level also. But that’s like saying guns aren’t made in the hood. All people need to take some accountability. The real problem is people are uniformed, a lot of you don’t realize your freedom is being taken away daily. Yeah the cooperate level is responsible for putting this music out, but lets be real the music industry as we know it is dead. People sell music out of their trunks, and are making more money than the labels can offer. It’s modern day bafoonery, people selling out for a dollar the easiest way they can. Wake up people the people who write the rap lyrics are just as responsible as the people who distribute the product.
I love Bill Cosby… He is ALWAYS on POINT.
“Shake yo ass… watch yourself!”
Okay, I love Cliff Huxtable as much as the rest of you but homeboy is doing a GREAT thing, the WRONG way…. you can NOT clown these kids and think you are going to get a better young person. He makes great points but I think he should have thought his APPROACH through.
And are the procceeds from this book going to better education, after school programs, etc.? Umm hmmm…. that’s what the FUCK I thought… so shake dat down homie!
@58 please see posts 30 and 33. they are just the tip of the iceberg. He still is not giving enough?
What is all this talk about the non-marital birth rates in Austraila and what not?
Doesn’t matter if the child is born in or out of wedlock, black men need to take financial and emotional responsibility for raising their children. If your babies mommas are all on welfare while you are wearing $200.00 sneakers or your rims are spinning, your priorities are fucked. If your children need to look to BET or MTV to figure out how to be a man or to figure out how a woman should be treated then you are not doing your job.