woohooo chris brown….

Avant…give it up! You’ve been gone from the industry for too long, and you are getting kinda old to be coming back. Good luck just the same…

Amy better not bring her ass to the Grammy’s gone off that *hit!

Congrats to Alicia! Unfortunately I didn’t aid in her CD become #1…

THEY TRIED 2 MAKE ME GO TO REAHB…. …..NO NO NO NO NO…… ….BACK 2 BLACK IS A BEAST. …IF U AINT KNOW..U SHOULD.. ..COP FRANK TOO WHILE U AT IT…………..

Yay for Ye Graduation is the shit. Can’t Tell Me Nothing is my anthem.
Bee still ranking them in I see. Go to see R&B still running thangs. I have never heard the Flo-rida song.

I spelled is his name wrong, lol, oh well.

I AM SO HAPPY AMY WINEHOUSE CAME TO USA BECAUSE SHE MAKES BLACK SINGERS (AT LEAST 90% OF THE SINGERS OUT) LOOK LIKE SHIT (MUSICALLY WISE THANK YOU!)
AND YES, SHE LOOKS A HOT MESS, SHE MUST BE CRAZY BUT ALL REAL
ARTISTS ARE. BUT OF COURSE, BECAUSE CREATING SOMETHING (WHICH A LOT OF ARTIST NEVER HEARD ABOUT) REQUIRES THAT YOU THINK DIFFERENTLY THAT EVERYBODY BEFORE YOU, TRANSLATION, BE ON DRUGS LOL AND SOMETIMES YOU CANNOT HANDLE IT!
BUT I HOPE SHE IS GONNA BE OK BECAUSE I AM SO TIRED OF FREAKUM #### !!

The only way Avant will sell records and really be seen is if he switches up his style.

First of all he looks like R. Kelly as it is and there is nothing about his voice or his sound that sets him apart from any other R&B singer.

as for R&B and Hip Hop.. we will always be at the top!

Amy needs to eat a sandwich and lay off that pipe before she go to the grammy’s.

ME AND MS JONES?!! DAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMM
EVERYBODY SHOULD COPE HER ALBUM, IT GIV EME HOPE THAT SOME PEOPLE STILL KNOW HOW TO DO REAL MUSIC.
IRREPLACABLE IS SO OLD NOW, IT WAS OK SONG BUT TOO POP!!

@ #6. She looks black singers look like shit? Really? Go somewhere with your crack-addict loving racist ass.

makes*

Chris Brown’s song is wack and that pic of him makes him look extra gay

Can’t say that the Grammy’s made the right choice choosing that god awful Fergie album

I am black and I said that she make real black music that Beyonce, Rihanna and some other artist !!
yes i said it!!

Good for Kanye! And STFU at #6

so glad for kanye and amy winehouse! i hope amy can get it together by then!

yes really, cause we black people only look at her look, she looks a mess but first, she was not looking like that before.
Secondly, her music is MORE BLACK!! And i hope our black singers will feel ashame and come back to her who run black music. Period!

@Christelle

Please! Amy Winehouse is just copying what black artists have been doing for years but don’t get recognition for it because of their skin color. Amy Winehouse wouldn’t even have gotten attention if she was a black artist

oh and by the wAY, SHE IS NOT THE ONLY SINGERS ON CRACK, SHOULD I REMIND A CERTAIN WHITNEY HOUSTON. OF COURSE, SHE SHOULD DO SOMETHING BUT SHE IS WAY MORE TALENTED THAN A LOT!!

APPLE BOTTOMS,

YOU ARE RIGHT, BUT THAT IS NOT CALLED CPYING THAT IS CALLED “INSPIRED” AND I WOULD LIKE MORE SINGERS TO COPY ALSO OUR BLACK LEGENDS BUT THEY DON’T?!!

@13.- Just because Rihanna and Beyonce are always put on blast everywhere does not mean that there isn’t black aritsts making Great Black music. India.Arie, Anthony Hamilton, Musiq Soulchild, Jaheim, Guadeloupe(sp?), chrissette michelle, Angie Stone, Macy Gray, Jill Scott the list goes on and on. You need to expand what you’re listening to before making judgements on a whole group of people u self-hating dumb azz

because even jay-z called her to work with her?! so that means something for real!!
But we still have Mary, jill Scott, Erika, and a lot of others but they are not recognized for their music cause it is not pop so it is cool that real black music is represented sometimes. It is just sad that the artist have to be white but to me it does not matter cause as i alwas said : once i put the cd on my stereo, i don;t see if she looks good or looks a hot ass mess, i want good music and i got it!

Queen latifa, just read my post below!
I agree with you

Amy Winehouse is the TRUTH. NOBODY can deny her talent. *Christelle is right when she says that Amy is better than 90% of the R&B “singers” out today. But I personally think she’s better than 99% out there.Her being on drugs has nothing to do with her talent, just like it had nothing to do with Billie Holiday’s talent or has nothing to do with Whitney’s talent.

@Christelle

If everyone just started mimicking artists from the past then there would be no progression in music and we would just be listening to the same shit everyday.

Thats why there is an emphasis on Contemporary R&B (Beyonce, Rihanna, Kelly Rowland, Amerie, Keyshia Cole, Ciara) cause its a modern form of R&B that combines all the elements that have made music what it is today. Learn to adjust and stop complaining.

and i am not dumb cause she is in the same category as these artist except music shoulchid, too corny to me. And i also listen to jazz, to african music, to european music …
so no need to call me dumb cause my culture musically wise is surely wide than yours!

they are doing shit,
because, they are always trying to give a same sound and they are not trying to expand (as you say) the range of the possibilities). At the end of the day, you have a asceptic music that looks like the same, and nobody is able to say who is who? so we need vocal identity, superior productions so yes, i hear new music but since i hear a lot of old music, they are shit!! it is just like people are not able to create nothing.
And i bet you don’t have the Frank album of Amy cause black to black was oreinted! but Frank is way better again (you see it possible!)

You can’t mimick the type of voice Amy has. Of course her music beats and whatnot are mimicking old school music, but she adds a modern hip-hop & R&B twist to it. All music originates from somewhere, there’s no harm in honoring pure music from back in the day.

Whoa is getting vicious in here! Congrats to Avant, he may sound the same but he obviously has staying power, and unlike kell’s, he’s not pissing on little girls! He’s got himself another pass. Congrats to all the artist, I dig em all (except Chris Brown, my “ABC, and “The Boyz” days are loooong behind me!)

OMG I absolutely cant stand that crackhead Amy Winecrack seriously!! I mean WTF why the hell would you scratch your pus*y in the middle of a performance and spit on your fans I mean that is effin disgusting smh….that is sum messed up shyt…

Im glad for Kanye, Alicia, Beyonce, Chris Brown for the Grammy Nominations and Charts woo hoo…gotta love R&B!

I own Amy Winehouse’s album because it is a great album but I don’t have to be simple minded (like you) to know that the contemporary R&B albums that have been coming out are good, cause they are. Just because they don’t have a live band in the background does not mean that they’re bad albums.

@12″ APPLEBOTTOMS” Girl please!!!! stop hatin on chris brown OH! by the way guess what U say really DON’T matter to any one his song IS numero UNO skank and bet your butt look like a dawm raquette YOU SKANK GO take A shower

Whatever, i just hope, it is going to draw the path for a better recognition of real soul music artist like all we know because they really deserve it!

They DO NOT sound the same. And for your f-in info i have BOTH amy winehouse albums, im not sayin she’s not good. But YOU need to stop belittling a whole group of people who u are obviously biased against.

@31

I’m gonna ignore you since I’m sure you’re just a 10 year old little slut who needs to be in school. That seems to be his only fanbase, pre-teen whores who need an ass whipping quick.

i mean numero DOS

#30, i just don’t like it, sorry. I compare them with the best and they are not! period.
The musical cjhice are too easy, people are looking to make money cause that the only thing they want. they don’t give a dam about music. That is why when an artist is tortured, his music is better. Music today, is about the look and as a woman, i don’t give a FUCK about how a singer look like period. I don’t wanna see a sexual show when i go to a concert I keep it for me and my boyfriend! narrow minded, if it is because i love to see a girl that blow with her voice even when she looks bad so yes i am! for sure.
but again, we already have some artist doing that, and we need more!

Damn! Y’all serious! LMAO!

Anyways, the official nominations have not been printed yet. This is speculation from industry insiders. I’m sure it will pan out but it wouldn’t hurt to wait a couple hours to get the real list of nominees.

Im going to ignored that little comment you just made. seems like you just a dirty foot gurl based on your name APPLE BOTTOMS girl please i just SEE IGNORANT when i read your comment GROW UP!!!!!!

Kanye desrves it! His album was the best of 2007!

they do sound the same,rihanna sound like beyonce.
J.holiday sounds like trey song
ciara sound like janet
I will not be able to continue the list cause i don’t listen to the radio so oftenly, one hour per month is enough to know what is going on in the music industry. I go to the disc shop to find some new independant music to refresh my ears but if i say madlib, oh no, jaydee, you won’t be able to know who they are so lets just stop here!

Music isn’t solely about the voice. You gotta have both the voice and the lyricism (clever or poignant), which Amy Winehouse has but many others in Contemporary R&B have as well so that doesn’t mean that they’re bad because they use a hip-hop producer.

They make such a big deal about white folks that sing Black music.

oh and kanye is really good cause he takes a lot of risk musically wise! and i love it!

@38

And the name BABY means something? Bitch please! Go hug your Chris Brown poster and go back to bed. He can’t sing, he can’t act, and his album is garbage.

@40

Amy Winehouse sounds like every black female soul artist from the 50’s and 60s…she isn’t original neither.

You are right,

but again, only few take the time to write properly!

44,

you really don’t get it lol. This voice is a gift from god. Nobody has this voice nowadays, like few have the erica badu voice!!
My point is at least, she sounds BLACK!! Unlike our national pop folk! that is it?!

@Christelle, don’t be hatin’ on J.Holiday, he sounds NOTHING like Trey Songz. I agree with you on everything other than J.holiday, ‘cuz he’s keepin’ it real and making good classic R&B music.

Rihanna, Beyonce, Ciara, Janet, J Holiday: they are all commercial. I’m not talking about them. I’m talking bout that list of black artists plus all the ones i didnt bother to write in my earlier post. YOU need to listen to THEM, as i said before. There is real black music out there and u just refuse to accept it. Its whatever, continue thinkin Amy Winehouse thiefin ass is the best thing since slice bread and deprive yourself of the ability that YOUR people actually have. Real BLACK music is out there, you’ll get it when u pull ur head out your ass

I think Avant has talent but he is boring I don’t think the switch in labels is going to change that.

Side note: I did like that song ” U know what”

What happened to Case and Donnel Jones

to 48,

you are stupid cause you don;t read my posts!!
so lets just stop here, i am tired!

Go Kanye !

to 48,

you are stupid cause you don’t read my posts!!
so lets just stop here, i am tired! all these artist are on my list and i said that if amy winehouse is recognised for that it is realy encouraging because maybe other artist that do real BLACK music are going to be recognized by all the world.
But i do believe that HER voice is amazing!

@Christelle

What is there to get? Your argument is wacky, you’re obviously some obsessed adolescent fan of Amy Winehouse who hasn’t been shown the good black music that exists right now.

Queen Latifah has two great jazz albums that are just as good as Amy Winehouse’s. Jill Scott has a much more powerful voice and her albums are damn near perfect.

what???
i know that, dam how can i explain it to you cause i am not sure i am talking chinese by maybe, i will speak french so will get it.

Jill soctt is nice, erikah is nice, queen latifa is nice too, and so is Amy. You happy?

noone wants to know black singers who sing like amy winehouse….we need to learn to suppot our own people more.

Even though I think Amy is the bomb, I do agree that if she were black she wouldn’t get as much recognition. But at the same time, I think there is racism within the black community too. If Beyonce and Rhianna were dark skinned, do you think they would get the same recognition that they do now???

Congrats to Kanye & Wino. If Wino would leave them drugs alone she’d be str8.
**I don’t know about “good music” in 2008, cuz it was real average to me this year, with a few exceptions**
I wish avant the best, he’s been around for a while and is so under rated.
Alicia’s CD is great so she deserves to be doing so well.

Apple bottoms,

just give up,

we are saying the same thing since the beginning, for seome reasons, you wanna fight. You will have to find someone else for that cause i know hell black music, that is the only thing i listen to! but a lot of people don’t and the fact that amy can be awarded for that is a good thing for black music that is all!! And yes, jill scott has a great voice, dangelo, donnell jones, jaheim, Antony Hamilton (the best), LAURYN HILL

oh and Alicia, sorry I forget her (my bad)!!

@Christelle

You need some help with your spelling and grammar…cause it sure is painful to read your comments.

SORRY

I AM NOT ENGLISH BUT T LEAST I KNOW HOW TO SPEAK ANOTHER LANGAGE THAN MINE, CAN YOU DO THAT?

And try to focus on the topic! You have nothing else to say now. BITCH! this one, is spell it right??

I LOVE Amy Winehouse! Her music IS incredible! If you haven’t listened to her album yet you are truly missing out. (You can’t call yourself a true R&B fan unless you’ve at least given it a listen.) I hate how she’s messing up her life but that has nothing to do with her talent. She most definitely deserves a grammy!

# correction “did i spell it right for you motherfucker?”

Christelle I feel what you are getting at. Maybe since I’m “older”-33 (lol!) I can’t get into Beyonce, Ciara or Rihanna. I own NONE of their music. I rarely listen to the radio–too commercialized!!! But I do rock my XM radio. I don’t feel pop music at ALL. I do have both of Amy Winehouse’s CDs–love them! I love REAL music-Teedra Moses, Amel Larrieux, Mary J Blige, Ledisi, Jaguar Wright, Goaple. None of these women need to shake their asses, be half naked on a magazine and I will buy their music and support them!!

I Love Amy’s music but ole girl has got some problems, I feel bad for her.
Kanye deserves that grammy.
There are a lot more artists out there that dont get the recognition that they deserve.
Jill Scott has a banging azz album. So does my girl Ledisi. I can do without Soulja Boy… that music is for kids.

Thats right @ Sayanything… Ledisi is the iisshhhh

UMMMMM… SMH @ this mess going on on this post!

and what is BLACK music? Music doesn’t really have a color. U all are making valid points, but it’s executed all wrong.. Anyway, I think Amy Winehouse is definitely talented and I like her style.. Her sound is not original, but her concepts are different so just give credit where credit is due. WHO KNOWS what would’ve happened if someone black had’ve come out with this sound. It probably wouldn’t have gotten this big, no, but it would’ve been recognized because no one has tried that motown sound in a long time.

Personally, I feel we are past the stage where we as black people “own” any type of music. Yes, most of the music genres were started by us, and that should always be remembered…but people get way too caught up in who’s singing what music.

I just love music…don’t care what race is singing it or what genre…I just love music.
I can rock a Ciara joint, then flip to Kanye, turn to Amy Winehouse, go to Bjork, come back to Wyclef, and then throw in some Beyonce, A. Keys, Jill Scott, Ledisi, Bilal, Aaliyah, UGK, John Mayer, Joss Stone, Outkast, Goapele, Gaelle, Aya, Cee-Lo, Gnarls Barkley, Lauryn Hill, Wu-Tang, Shakira….the list goes on and on.

Music is a world thing. People take from our culture (i.e. Amy Winehouse, Justin Timberlake, Joss Stone etc). We take from other cultures (i.e. listen to the Indian/Asian influences on Wyclef’s album). Music is a shared experience.

The only thing that really frustrates me in music is the lack of balance. I’m 26yo…and I remember listening to the radio “back in the day” (the 90’s lol). At that time you could hear constant Earth, Wind & Fire, then Aaliyah, then 2Pac, the Isley Brothers, Biggie, Jay-Z,Erykah Badu, Esthero,Brandy, Amel Larrieux, Groove Theory, etc..they kept an even balance between hiphop, old/new school r&b/soul.

Not everyone needs to have a power voice (like Whitney or Mariah), because then you miss out on less-vocally talented artists (but still very much influential …like Janet Jackson). People need to be exposed to more than just Beyonce and Soulja Boy on the radio. I’m so glad I have my ipod, cuz I got tired of hearing the same song 3 or 4 times in the same hour on the radio.

I search for new music all the time. But most people don’t. Their exposure comes from what they see on tv or hear on the radio. It would just be really nice if the radio/tv/record companies would have a more balanced promotion of their artists. But this is not a perfect world…but at least I still ahve my iPod.

Some of you will agree, some of you won’t. But it’s cool. Just my opinion.

@Christelle

Yes, sweetie I can speak Spanish and Korean

Even though Kanye, and Amy got the biggest nominations. i gotta give it up to rihanna who got six nominations they include:

Record of the Year
Song of the Year
Best Dance Recording
Best Rap/Sung Collaboration
Best R&B Performance by a Duo or Group
Best R&B Song

Good as hell!!

cool,

So now you understand! You might not be as ignorant as i though lol. I am in New-York since 6 months so i think iam doing really good and i wont be fluent before few years! so!

How can rihanna have all these nominations? I mean Song of the year? Which song “Umbrella”? They can’t be serious? Sorry for my ignorance again, but are these nominations based on sales?on public vote? etc..

Well I think everyonre there deserves to be were they are at on the charts rite now (big up to Soulja Boy,I like him he has a unique style)but Alicia is okay but she is gettin too much praise 4 that album,her singles are okay they are not hott or anything,no one is too much of a cliche song 4 me.

I’M VERY EXCITED TO SEE A POST ON AVANT HE’S A VERY TALENTED GUY. THANKS CL!!!!!!!