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POLITICAL ROUND UP: BET FOUNDER APOLOGIZES / OBAMA SPLITS BLACK CAUCUS

Thursday, January 17, 2008

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Bob Johnson drawing by scurv

Bob Johnson, founder and former CEO of BET apologized Thursday to Sen. Barack Obama for what appeared to be veiled comments this week regarding the Democratic presidential hopeful’s acknowledged drug use as a teenager.

Johnson, a high-profile supporter of Sen. Hillary Clinton, said he sent Obama a letter and also was reaching out by phone.

Obama spokesman Bill Burton responded Thursday afternoon, saying, “Obama accepts the apology. We’re going to leave it at that.”

Johnson drew criticism following remarks he made Sunday at a Clinton campaign stop in Columbia, South Carolina.

Earlier this week, Clinton and Obama both called for an end to the bitter, racially charged exchanges that have taken place between their campaigns in recent days.

OBAMA SPLITS BLACK CAUCUS

(Photo: Splash)

Many black lawmakers on Capitol Hill are not supporting Barack Obama, who may become the first black ever to represent a major party as the nominee for president. And that’s creating tensions within the Congressional Black Caucus.

More than a third of the black members of Congress are backing Hillary Rodham Clinton or John Edwards in the presidential primary, a stance that puts them at odds with many of their African-American constituents, who, recent polls show, are beginning to shift to Obama’s camp.

The Clinton supporters — among them, civil rights pioneer Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.) and Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charles B. Rangel (D-N.Y.) — have said their endorsements didn’t hinge on race. Instead, they cited long-standing relationships with the Clintons, a respect for Hillary Clinton’s experience in national politics and, for some, geographical alliances with her in New York.

But now that Obama has won the Iowa caucuses and appears poised to do well in other early-primary states, some black lawmakers are pointing to the Clinton backers and calling them political opportunists who did not believe in the electability of a black candidate. Read the article in its entirety.

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1.

smiley

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

I’m mad that after Johnson made that statement, he tried to say he wasn’t talking about the drug use. I mean if u said it, stick to it, don’t try to back out of it because people didn’t like what you said.

2.

Unity Is What We Need...

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

Who gives a fuck about this clown… Nothing is going to derail the momentum Obama has….

Go Obama

3.

smiley

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

I heard that! Barack the Vote :)

4.

Tonya

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

@ 2 you got that right!

5.

STUPID PEOPLE

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

FUCK COON JOHNSON AND HILLARY. THE ONLY REASON BLACK LAWMAKERS ARE SUPPORTING HILLARY OVER BARACK IS BECAUSE OF THEIR ALLEGIANCE TO BILL CLINTON. HE HELPED THEM WHEN HE WAS IN OFFICE SO THEY THINK THEY HAVE TO SUPPORT HIS WIFE. HILLARY CAN’T EVEN KEEP UP WITH HER MAN, HOW IS SHE GONNA RUN A COUNTRY?

6.

♥Chelly♥

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

Obama 2008!!!
All this Obama hate gots to stop, dang people are always hating. We need to support each other, especially in something as important as this election!!

7.

ThinkAboutIt

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

I am glad the brother was man enough to take the steps and do the right thing to apologize. He recognized his wrong, and corrected it.

Everybody makes mistakes.

8.

Ara

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

The statement that Bob Johnson made about Barack Obama had the opposite effect of what Hillary and himself had in mind, instead of gaining Hillary more support from the black community she lost support. Now, he is trying to reverse the damage by making an apology to Barack. The apology could be heartfelt maybe it’s not, but I still say BARACK OBAMA PRESIDENT 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

9.

Harlem Mami

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

Rangel has always been a Clinton ass kisser. He endorsed Wesley Clark in the last election so that really shows you he doesn’t know shit.

10.

young zo

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

As blacks we should never conflate the ideas of supporting Hilary Clinton and betrayal to black people. You have a right- AND DUTY to you and your people- to vote for the candidate that u think will best represent u. With that said… i’m conflicted between Obama and Hilary. But dont for a second think that someone a vote for Obama necessarily would necessarily mean ur voting for the best leader of black america. Likewise… no black should think that somehow we owe it to the Clinton’s for their work in the past (although that is reassuring to me because they have a proven track record). Nor should we feel compelled to suppor Obama because he is black and Clinton is not.

PEOPLE THE MEDIA -AND AMERICA…including black america- HAS BEEN SAYING WHO WE SHOULD VOTE FOR OR WHO THEY ‘KNOW’ WE’LL VOTE FOR LIKE WE’RE SOME EASILY INFLUENCED DONKEYS WITH A CARROT DANGLING INFRONT OF OUR HEADS GUIDING US TO THIS FALLACIOUS PREDESTINED CANDIDATE.

I’m just saying regardless of Bob Johnston, the media, the congresional black congress, black america, white america OR WHOMEVER says… WE ARE FREE… TO USE ARE MINDS…AND VOTE FOR WHO WE WANT, BOTH AS INDIVIDUALS AND A PEOPLE.

JUST DO U!

11.

young zo

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

man i had a lot of tpyos in the last post… i also wanted to add that I’m not even American…I’m a black Canadian.. .and we’re following this race REALLY closely… if i could vote i would…. I sincerely hope that regardless of the vote black america come to the polling bothes in groves.

12.

ThinkAboutIt

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

I’m not surprised at all about the split in the Black Caucus. Many of those people have a feel an allegiance to the Clintons from way back - and some of them may simply feel that Hillary is a better candidate. All Black people are not backing Barack - and all white women are not backing Hillary.

Folk have to recognize - politics is about money and power - it’s a selfish game.

13.

shoyouright

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

YOUNG ZO FOR PRESIDENT!

14.

DejaStar7

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

His actions were inappropriate. Im glad he retracted his statements.

15.

NEWSCUTEY

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

Throw that truth on them Young Zo. That’s exactly what I’ve been trying to tell my friends. They don’t understand why I haven’t gotten on the Obama band wagon. Do I like the man? yes. Do I think he’s charismatic? yes. But will I vote for him? Not sure.

Bottom line, being black doesn’t make him the best candidate. And not to repeat you, but working as a journalist, I’ll be the first to tell you 100% of your news is slanted. I’ve said it on here and I’ll say it again…NEVER RELY ON ONE SOURCE…for your news.

And don’t forget, we have a long way to go before election time. Remember the last one?Candidates ruined their chances at the presidency over certain statements that were wrong or perceived to be wrong.. and by switching back and forth on issues. Look how Howard Dean was treated and John Kerry. So basically, pay attention and don’t set your mind on one candidate. Some much can happen between now and election day. Just make sure you’re informed.

16.

honeylove86

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

OBAMA ”08, i’m sick of people hating on this man. I whole heartedly support Barack Obama, the only reason so many black people are supporting Hillary Clinton is because of Bill. Simply put just because you are married to someone doesn’t mean your political views are anything alike, simply put Hill dosen’t have the same swag as Bill. And I don’t see her as a good fit for the president of America.Barack made it from the bottom to the top were he ought to be. He is an intelligent, well heeled, BLACK politican that’s not on that Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton not a shot in hell presidency bid. He actually is a viable candidate and I’m going to support.

17.

JAYMAN

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

GOOD HE APLOLOGIZED, BUT I STILL WANT EVER RESPECT THAT MAN EVER AGAIN . HE’S A DISGRACE TO BLACK AMERICA, AND HE EVEN LOOKED LIKE HE BE ON THE WHITES SIDE. HE’S A UNCLE TOM

BARACK THE VOTE 08!

18.

yes

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

I agree Young Zo (#10)

all they need to do is say what they are about and let us make the decision and quit tryin to downtalk the next candidate

i think its sad that the lawmakers are not suporting obama just cuz they dont think he’ll win, rather than just not agreeing with his causes, ur supposed to vote for who u want, not who u think is most likely to win, im sure a lot of ppl do that, but u never know what could happen, its not like someone is gonna be in the booth with them on election day anyway makin sure they vote for hillary or whoever

19.

PrettyYoungThang

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

Retraction or not, Uncle Bob has ONCE AGAIN embarrassed himself and added injury to Hilary’’s campagne. Obama will still ROCK THE VOTE!! GO OBAMA!

20.

Dame

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

Bob Johnson whatever he should have just keep his mouth closed.

They need to leave Obama alone he is exciting and has people interested in him.

21.

Lenear

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

I don’t have a problem with these black lawmakers supporting Hillary. My problem lies with their reasons for supporting her. Just because you have a long-standing relationship with the Clintons doesn’t mean that Hillary will be a good president. What are their motives? Do they think if Hillary wins she’s going to give them a cabinet position?

And why does Hillary keep saying she has 35 years of experience. 35 years ago she was in law school and 18 of those 35 years where spent as first lady (governor & president). Are people really so stupid that they believe everything this woman says?

22.

DeeLife

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

It’s really great to see so many blacks aka African Americans supporting Obama. However, I will be realistic with this matter. It doesn’t matter how much Oprah backs him and the black community supports him, the truth of the matter is that the majority is not black. And, with elections the majority rules. That’s the reality.

23.

NEWSCUTEY

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

Lenear.. that would be a yes. You see what happened when America believed Bush. We’ve now been in an 8 year nightmare. Enough said.

24.

BlackieDC

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

Just wanted to say “Thanks” to ConcreteLoop.com for adding a political piece to the site. I love this site for the insight it brings from the entertainment world, but I also like to stay informed politically too! I also like how the political articles are objective and non-biased. Keep up the good work J. Dakar and Concreteloop.com.

25.

KNOWN

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

bump the founder of BET, that’s why his wife took hundreds of millions from him, UNCLE TOM LOL

26.

Andrice

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

Barack for president…ignore the haters!

27.

cdnyc

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

Whateva Bob Johnson!!!

28.

STOP THE HATE!

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

#2 and #16 are on point! =)

Young Zo thanks for your input, I wonder how other nations besides Canada are viewing this election?

29.

bklyn-bella

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

Bob is a mess, how dare he bring up the whole weed use..we could go through the House of Representatives right now and find a bunch of acid users and cocaine sniffers so lets not even go there..we still haven’t discussed what happened to that guy Dick Cheney shot in the face…I ain’t forget.

All of this negativity over the fact that there is a black man running for president..everyone has failed to realize how far we have come….years ago no one could have told me that a black man and a woman were running for president.

30.

ms_mac

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

Bob must’ve been smoking his own brand of oooo-weee with Bill when he decided to apologize. Please. If I had his money I would give a damn what anyone thought. Guess YT still got him by the nose.

31.

Staci

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

Yeah he has his foot in his mouth right about now

32.

ScurvOriginalz

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

First of all, you all have got to check out the cartoon that I just finished of this clown Bob Johnson. Click on my name to get to my site then go to the “Scurv Art Gallery” page.

Now, what good is an apology saying what he said on purpose. It was a calculated smear indeed! To keep it short, it seems to me like some type of political/corporate favor that he owes former President Clinton so he is hooking up Hillary with the honors. I have no problem with Bob not endorsing Barack. If he feels Hillary is the best then it is his right to endorse her. But to smear Barack publicly as a man of such accomplishments? He obviously has endured many smears and obstacles himself as a Black man in the corporate world. So why would you who knows the same assaults and pain on your character inflict the same on someone else who is coming up in the ranks in his career as a politician? An apology doesn’t clean it all up in my book! That’s why I drew the picture of him on my site!
I want to hear from you all!
Peace
Lance Scurvin
http://www.ScurvOriginalz.com

33.

JerseyBred323

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

Fuck a Charles Rangel. That corrupt negro has his Escalade with the $1200 car note billed to NYC. Fuck him.

& fuck Bob Johnson’s cooning-for-billions ass.

34.

GETLYKBEY

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

I’m for Obama, Our People never cease to amaze me, The african-american people should be the most unified race there is after we examine not what weve been through in contemporary times but what our relatives of the past had to undergo, and yet soooo many of us hate to see one another to sucdeed.

35.

IRON MAN

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

HOW CAN BOB JOHNSON TALK ABOUT ANYONE. HE CREATED FUCKIN B.E.T. HE IS SUCH A FUCKIN LOSER. HE WAS ON THE MICHAEL BAISDEN SHOW THE OTHER DAY TRYING TO DEFEND THAT CESSPOOL CALLED B.E.T. TOMORROW MISS JONES IS GOING TO BRING THE HEAT TO THAT ASS. MISS JONES IS A MORNING SHOW IN NY AND PHILLY. IF YOU WANT TO CHECK HER OUT TOMORROW YOU CAN HEAR HER ONLINE AT http://WWW.1003THEBEATPHILLY.COM … CHECK HER OUT.

36.

americans for change

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

I am not surprised about the backing of Black lawmakers, This is all a game. Most of those lawmakers are probably in office because of clinton backing them, so when you have lobbyist, special interest, this is how they vote. They tend to move with the money, that’s why they along with the republician congress, is considered a do nothing congress. They are only there to line the pockets of their family and friends. They don’t want real change.

37.

ms_mac

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

@ 32,
Word Scurv!! Whether you’re feeling the man or not, the adult, respectable thing to do is let him do him. Why smear .. and then say “my bad”? So childish!

38.

ThinkAboutIt

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

#32 - Very Nice site… Interesting and insightful.

39.

ScurvOriginalz

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

Thanks to the both of you for the compliments to my website!
Now check out the Black History Page on the same site under “Our Lineage In Photos”……and vibe on that for a while. We as a people have come too far to be the very reason why we let an opportunity go by like what we have here with Barack. You see, the world would HAVE to see beyond the stereotypes put forth by the BET network and realize that we are Women & Men of substance when the see the fine example of a man that is Barack Obama. This is destiny and we must act now as though our lives depended on it because in a sense, it does! Who would have thought that in 2008 we could possibly have a Black president who is QUALIFIED to bring the unique combination of characteristics to the White (White?) House!

“Amerikkka’s Most Outspoken Artist”
Lance “Scurv” Scurvin
http://www.ScurvOriginalz.com

40.

Amaria

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

#32 nice drawing and website…im feeling it…..As for Bob (8) Its tooo lateeee to apologize, its tooo lateeee (8) *Smh* !

41.

ThinkAboutIt

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

#39 -
I was checking out “our lineage in photos” and that has to be one of the best compilations ever - one of my favorites songs, and some of the most powerful images ever. That song is most appropriate for these political times.
Thank you for sharing, Thank you for caring. It’s so easy not to.

42.

Emma V's Great- Grandaughter

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

Go Obama!!!!!!!!!

Bob Johnson- just shut the fuck up ok.

43.

UGLY

Thursday, January 17, 2008 /

Love the picture! lmao! So true though!

44.

MW09

Friday, January 18, 2008 /

Bob Johnson is a joke…….moving on……..Why is Obama splitting the black caucus? He’s black man that just might win the democratic nomination, make history and achieve probably on of the greatest victories of all time. I don’t see the problem with them not all voting 100% with Obama ??? Black people sometimes…………

OBAMA ‘08

45.

TGS

Friday, January 18, 2008 /

Good work @ Scurv! I’m checking out your site now.

46.

kmniles

Friday, January 18, 2008 /

Divide and conquer. I know that’s what alot of Obama supporters and Republican voters are thinking at this very moment. But to be honest…I feel better knowing that the eggs are split between two baskets rather than following one fat hen. So what if the CBC is split. It’s a good thing because that means they aren’t being held by one particular politicians hand or pocketbook. I don’t think this will matter much since the CBC is practically split between both major candidates. Each member probably won’t change their enndorsements even at this early stage of the game but I’m baffled by Rangel’s comment of the Clinton’s practically being family (WTH?). Unless one of the candidates royaly fucks up or a major scandal erupts, I don’t see this changing anything.

47.

CLEARMINDED

Friday, January 18, 2008 /

I LOOOOOOOVE THAT CARTOON DRAWING!!!

It is the perfect characterization of Uncle Bob and this whole debacle. He was so up Hilary’s ass that he had absolutely no problem throwing a brotha under the us. He could have just supported her and left it at that. But noooooo… the field slave had to put on his tap dancing shoes, hat and start acting a fool.

SPIKE LEE… ARE YOU OUT THERE? Please, oh please I hope you are putting together footage for a future documentary of this Obama run. The clips of all these house negroes (Sharpton, Young, Johnson, Rangel) will be too entertaining. They make me sick! Get on the case Spike!

48.

CLEARMINDED

Friday, January 18, 2008 /

@#32 (Scurv) — Great work!

49.

Nastassia

Friday, January 18, 2008 /

I support Barack Obama because of these very facts listed below: (COULD CARE LESS ABOUT HIS SKIN COLOR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.)

1. Senator Obama had the judgment to be against the Iraq War from the very beginning, even when it was very popular to support it. That position could have cost him his Senate bid, but he stuck with it. He takes positions based on principles, not poll tested positions. He has the impeccable judgment to keep us safe. That’s why along with getting us out of Iraq, his first priority is going to be to refocus our attention on Afghanistan and capturing Bin Laden, which now should have been done years ago.

2. Senator Obama has proposed the most comprehensive, detailed, and economically responsible stimulus package to help the American People and this economy. It’s the exact opposite of Bush’s proposal. It’s an investment of $120 billion that provides immediate relief by putting money in the hands of workers and seniors, stems the rising tide of the foreclosure crisis, and covers state budget shortfalls.

3. When he finished school, he could have easily taken a job on Wall Street and become a millionaire. Instead, he took a $12,000 a year job to be a community organizer, helping people who’d lost their jobs in the poor neighborhoods of Chicago. He has great judgment and great experience helping real Americans.

4. It has been proven in national poll after national poll, most recently by USA Today and Gallup, that Senator Obama is the most electable Democrat in the race today. He’s the only Democrat beating all 5 Republicans, and unlike Hillary and as Obama’s win in the Iowa Caucuses clearly showed, he strongly attracts Independents and Republicans. This has been proven nationwide. We want to support a winner and he’s clearly our best shot. 50% of Americans have said that under no circumstances would they ever vote for Hillary.

5. After watching Bush shred the constitution for the last 7 years, it’ll be wonderful to have someone with the experience of being a constitutional law professor as President. The chief responsibility of the President of the United States is to enforce the law - no candidate knows the law better than Obama.

6. We can make world history by making Senator Obama the Democratic nominee for President of the United States, as Iowa made world history by making him the winner of the first-in-the-nation caucuses . . .

“An Obama win in Iowa will be the biggest political story coming from America in a generation, in decades, that will be covered on the front pages of every major newspaper in the world on January 4th”.
-Chris Matthews (Hardball-MSNBC: 12.26.07)

7. After 7 years of Bush, we need a President with brains. Senator Obama is the ‘anti-Bush’. He was president of the Harvard Law Review, the oldest and most prestigious pupil operated law review in the U.S. To be it’s president, you have to be absolutely brilliant, and Senator Obama is brilliant.

8. After 7 years of being lied to by the President and other politicians, we deserve a President who not only tells the truth, but has an outstanding reputation for lifelong honesty, as does Senator Obama. We deserve an honest President.

9. It was Senator Obama who led the successful landmark effort in the United States Senate to pass the most comprehensive ethics and lobbying reform bill since Watergate. That bill strictly banned gifts and meals from lobbyists, and the use of corporate jets. He has the experience, both as an Illinois State Senator and as a United States Senator, of working throughout his entire political career for transparency and honesty in government.

10. There isn’t another candidate in this race, Democrat or Republican, that offers
Americans any more of an opportunity for real change and real hope and for a real breath of fresh air than Barack Obama. This country hasn’t seen a leader come along like this since John Kennedy and Robert Kennedy, and we may not see another leader like this again in our lifetime. We should seize this momentous and historic opportunity.

Now as far as that Uncle Tom, Bob Johnson, former CEO of “Black Enslavement Television” is considered, he’s a fool, simply put. Apology or not, he’s already did damage to his reputation.

The change this country needs starts with you, the grassroots, as Obama’s campaign is all about. Get involved! OBAMA in 2008.

“YES WE CAN!”

50.

Janet

Friday, January 18, 2008 /

Bob Johnson could never in a million years make me change my mind on voting for whom ever I please. He acts as though he’s speaking on behalf of all Black America. Look at how he presided over BET. There was rarely anything worth watching on that station that I viewed as educational, when people started speaking about that ,he sold it.
Now he wants to tell people how to vote, by trying to blackball Obama. The Clintons have many a skeletons in their closet.That Bob Johnson is an idiot. He’s one of those old Americans that believe that we have to always depend on whites. Obama is showing all those young black boys and men that it is possible in America to run for the office of president and possibly win. I was for Hillary to, but I feel at times they take us for granted, It’s time for something different.

51.

Nastassia

Friday, January 18, 2008 /

p.s For the record, I happen to be an African- American young woman. =)

52.

Nastassia

Friday, January 18, 2008 /

p.s.s WHOA. What an illustration, “Rent-A-Crab”! HAHAHA I’ve checked out the man’s website, and he’s BAD! So many amazing drawings about the sad truths in our community.

53.

kyandi

Friday, January 18, 2008 /

hillary clinton 4 president, i love her

hillary is going 2 win the president race

54.

PG

Friday, January 18, 2008 /

I truly lost much respect for Bob Johnson. That was a true house N?*$# move he made against Barack Obama. The Clinton’s are sending the TOMS out in full force to character assassinate Barack.

55.

ScurvOriginalz

Friday, January 18, 2008 /

Thanks again to everyone about my artwork. You know, it’s the same feeling when you have a child that is loved by everyone, it warms your heart over tenfold. I commited to using my talent in a way that would provoke thought and encourage strong reaction whether one may agree or not.

I have to thank Angel again for helping me to get my work out to all of my wonderful people here on Concreteloop. I can’t get enough of this site! There have been times when I couldn’t go back to bed in the middle of the night after a trip to the restroom without checking to see what was happening! LOL!

It is so hard in an industry that is dominated by old crusty individuals that refuse to acknowledge & utilize your abilities because of the color of your skin or your ideology.

A man like Barack Obama infuses me with an enthusiasm to excel in my chosen passion now matter what the world thinks. And he helps me to know that no matter what, we are to toil at perfecting ourselves even when we have passed through a period that may not be too pristine! We ALL have something in our past that we know was a misjudgement. Barack is the bigger man for even being real enough to acknowledge these things that many of his detractors would never admit.

Can we finally join hands in unison as a people once and for all to bring in a NEW period in our history? I’m all for it and would definitely shed tears of joy when it does happen!

Love you all!

“Scurv”

Amerikkka’s Most Outspoken Artist

http://www.ScurvOriginalz.com

56.

NoMoSoul

Friday, January 18, 2008 /

I like Barack, I really do. I think he would indeed make a great President. And Ive always been torn b/w him and Hillary Clinton, but leaning towards Clinton. Then I realized something.

A LOT of people dont like Hillary. They think she’s cold. A polarizing figure. She is a brilliant woman, a punctual woman, a woman of MANY accomplishments. She could even be a great president. But many Americans just dont flat-out like her b/c: She’s a democrat, she’s Bill’s wife, she may come off as untrustworthy, and she can seem a bit dehumanized.

In fact, more people like OBAMA more than Hillary. I realized that if Hillary was ever to receive the Democratic nomination, she could very well LOSE the presidency simply b/c most of Americans such as Independents, Republicans, and some Democrats dont like her. But if she had OBAMA as her running mate VP, THAT would give her the boost she needed to win b/c of Obama’s greater popularity, although Hillary does have numerous supporters.

However, it wouldnt be the same if OBAMA won the Dems nomination. If he had Hillary as his running mate VP, he would probably lose b/c of her. She would hurt his public stance.

With that theory we can assume that HIllary really would be too divisive as President. And it would not b/c of her laws and beliefs which are Just and SOUND and proper for our nation, but b/c people just dont LIKE HER. And we as Americans need a president who can UNITE the country. An HONEST President.

So i dont know. I would like Hillary to win b/c she’s strong enough to do this. But too many people just dont like her enough. Obama is great, and as a President he might unite instead of divide a very already-divisive Congress that cant cant seem to get their shit together these days.

But then I think about the Bradley effect. I mean, hey, WHITE PEOPLE LIE! They say they’ll vote for Obama but might end up voting for Huckabee or MCcain instead. SO whats up with that? We dont know how they really feel about having the First Black President. And there’s so much racism in this country that one of those redneck fools might even try to KILL Obama, the closest thing to JFK and ML we have today. I dont want Obama to take the fall for not being able to fully clean up Bush’s mess of 8 yrs.

So who do you go for? Barack, or Hillary? And if Barack is nominated with Hillary as his running mate, do you think they could win?

Hey, J. Dakar, could you a posting of all the current candidates of both Reps and Dems parties and a comparison of their stances so that EVERYONE here can see the differences b/w them. Would appreciate it.

57.

jones

Friday, January 18, 2008 /

@9&33 Speak on that truth!!!!

58.

2 FOR $5.00

Friday, January 18, 2008 /

NOW THAT I FIND OUT THAT BOB JOHNSON DONT LIKE OBAMA, THAT ACTUALLY MAKES ME LIKE OBAMA

HE DONE GAVE ME A REASON TO LEAN TOWARDS THE OBAMA SIDE

BUT I GOTTA FINISH READING HIS BOOK DOMF BEFORE I MAKE MY DECISION

59.

Jeremy

Friday, January 18, 2008 /

I DON’T CARE IF THE PRESIDENT WILL BE BLACK OR WHITE OR CHINESE OR WHATEVER, AS LONG AS THE PRESIDENT IS SMART AND WILL KEEP AMERICA GOING FORWARD AND BUILDING UP THE ECONOMY. SO PEOPLE MIGHT JUST ASWELL STOP WITH THIS RACE THING…

60.

gluvnast

Friday, January 18, 2008 /

i’m definately riding for obama. for the past 33 years of my life i’ve been wishing that one day my generation will be blessed with our own version of MLK or malcolm X. someone that inspire a natino of color and to be proud of being black. in these darkest hours, i truely felt that our people were completely lost, because we had these so-called “leaders” failing us, our so-called role models failing us more, and in every direction the media always kept finding a way to make us out as fools.

barack obama came out of the blue as someone we should model by. an highly intelligent, high self-esteemed, successful, and determined leader who paved his own road without any handouts by others and never selling out. his family even put the huxtables to shame. he’s someone that rose to greatness in such a quick of a time, but always stayed grounded. me, personally, his short time at washington is more of a blessing than a lack of experience, because it shows that he’s not currupted by the political system, he’s too brand new to be currupted!

it’s highly understandible as to why black people are split on this issue, because it’s a classic generational gap type of thing. most of the old school civil rights era people are going to ride with their fellow baby boomer hillary, because they still have that mentality that in order to achieve success for us is thru the help of the white man (or woman in this case) to pull them thru. even hillary herself implied that with that controversial statement that it took LBJ to pass the (flawed) civil rights bill. also, our so-called black “leaders” fear obama, because if obama becomes president, then the entire civil rights era of leaders are dead! the changing of the guard have been set. the transition of fighting against racism to fighting against CLASSISM will be complete.

obama isn’t from that era, he’s from the generation X era. the same era that many people in the 80’s and early 90’s claim will amount to nothing. yet we’re the ones that got next to lead this country and prove them wrong.

hillary is their last chance of a era that gone old and passed away

61.

Hisbutterfly23

Friday, January 18, 2008 /

I think it is a damn shame that some people are jumping to vote for Obama based on the simple fact “he’s black like us”… that does NOT mean he is the best choice to represent AMERICA. This is bigger than one race.. this is about an entire country… think about BUSH having the power to lead us into a BS war… If we make a decision on RACE/ETHNICITY we are setting ourselves up for a big failure… I am sure there are much better black choices than Obama and far better women choices than Hillary… As an AMERICAN I have no faith in the people in my country to make the BEST decision.. we are still so focused on black and white and all that BS.

62.

Dame

Friday, January 18, 2008 /

President Bush is going to address the economy in a speech today.

63.

***Gorgeous Black Women***

Friday, January 18, 2008 /

What he said is NOT a betrayal. It does NOT make him a sell-out. How the hell are some of you mad at this statement when this man has been denigrating your entire race (versus one black person this time) for ages? Well, some black people still eat up the BET. Yes, Debra Lee has cranked the coonery up from an 8 to a 10, but still. His statements were definitely in poor taste and reflect what I see in all democrats these days which is completely destructive to the entire party. Moderates and independents decide the election just like they decide every election. It’s not women, not black people, not Latinos or anyone else. There are a lot more of them around these days and most of them vote. If it were 2000 and I was looking at this circus, I would not vote for a democrat. The jack-a–es need to get their party together because right now, they are just handing republicants this election. It just reflects the lack of organization within the party. Trust me. Sitting from outside and looking in, they all look foolish. If there’s anything the republicants can do, it’s run a high-quality smear campaign. With what the dems are doing these days, they’re putting Carl Rove and his klan out of work.

64.

gluvnast

Friday, January 18, 2008 /

@ hisbutterfly

no, that’s black people aren’t riding for obama because he’s black. that’s the biggest misconception. the split of the black support for obama clearly proves that black people aren’t riding for obama merely due to his color, just like him winning iowa and nearly winning new hampshire isn’t due to him being black.

in fact, it’s more apparent, as well as troubling IMO, that a large percentage of black people are riding with hillary out of pure loyalty. most of that group are the elder people of color that lived thru the civil rights era and want to right with people that are from their generation. being that obama isn’t from that era and see things more in common with people rising up today it’s more of the reason those from 40 and below are more likely riding with him.

it’s the media that wants to play the racial theme, and they are doing it effectively. we always want to play with stereotypes. we believe them more then anybody outside our race and the stereotype of black people voting for a black man ONLY because he’s black is one of the big stereotypes placed upon us. how can that perception be possible while we are being either so-indecisive or so split for endorsing either or?

65.

British Black girl

Friday, January 18, 2008 /

@ Natassia
@ NOMOSOUL

Thank God for your lives and the ability to explain what I have been trying to understand for the last few months. American politics is very different from British politics in that the campaigns are not as sexcy or as polished, the ridiculous amounts of funding is not seen this side of the pond or the rallies or talk show appearances. Whenever I try to found out anything about Hilary and Obama, all I get is soundbites or fancy slogans. I wanted to know there position on things other than the war. I wanted to know what they have done for their country…..

THANKYOU for EXPLAINING…LOL

Even though my opinion means absolutely nothing during election time. I will say this, I find it particularly interesting that now that there is potentially a black candidate brilliant enough to be president, a great number of black people feel they need to do extensive research on him before deciding whether or not he is worthy of their vote. I remember during the last election I use to frequent African-American blogs and websites and there was not this much furore and debate as to who was going to get their vote. It was simply a matter of who they liked.

Why do people insist on changing their model for President….I am sorry if you can vote for Bush twice, a man who has yet to prove to me he made it pass the early years of high school education …then come on….

I am not suggesting for one second that you should vote for Obama because he is black, but why muddy the man’s name, question his morality and ability to do be your president simply because he is black.

Not wishing to offend anyone, but all those who sing the praises of Bill Clinton are very forgiving or are being ignorant of all the actions he committed whilst he was president that had a negative impact on the black community. I think African-Americans should be insulted when statements that he was America’s first black president is made… To me the statement is implying that black existence consists of playing the saxophone (BADLY), hanging out in Harlem and receiving extra favours from your subordinates at work.

All I am saying is African-Americans be an example to the rest of the world…Apply the same scrutiny your applying to Obama to all the candidates.

On another note….I for one am very mistrusting of Hilary as far as I am concerned she is riding the coat tails of her husband and has yet to demonstrate why she should be President other than the fact she stood by her adulterous and deceitful husband!

66.

Air Force Fly

Friday, January 18, 2008 /

FYI….WHITE AMERICA IS NOT READY FOR A BLACK PRESIDENT!

67.

Lady Architect

Friday, January 18, 2008 /

hahahaha@ “he accepts the apology and that’s it” thats what I’m talking about….Obama is humble, but he’ll let you know not to run all over him.

68.

H

Friday, January 18, 2008 /

I really hate that the general public is so stupid to actually believe that there was a back and forth race argument between Obama and the Clintons. From what I saw it was the Clintons making ignorant comments then blaming Obama for their ignorance. The Clintons also kept attacking Obama professionally and personally and Obama wouldn’t respond to their ignorance. The Clinton campaign was the ones who created this whole race issue and then flipped it to make people think that Obama started it. The Clinton machine is ruthless and it is at work to bring down Obama, let’s just hope that it backfires in their faces. And also to all you Clinton supporters who are always talking about how good the Clintons have been to us black folks, since when were the Clintons so good to the black community. What have the Clintons done for us. And futhermore do you know that more black people were locked up during the Clinton years than ever before. And also to the gay community, do you know that in 1996 Bill Clinton passed the Defense of Marriage Act which denied recognition to same-sex couples and gave states rights to ignore gay and lesbian marriages. All these minority groups have not gained anything from the Clinton era and yet they support him anyway. That is what’s truely sad.

- Change is inevitable and Change is now!
OBAMA 08′

69.

mrs sands

Friday, January 18, 2008 /

Why is Johnson even relevant, campain wise? What has he done other than show some damn videos!!! I will vote for whom I see fit I dont give a damn what the race or the gender is!

70.

H

Friday, January 18, 2008 /

@ British Black Girl

I agree with you 100%. I find it amazing that other black people are criticizing Obama more than anyone else. I honestly beleive that if Obama were white, black folks would not even question his abilities like they are doing now. Just look at Hillary no black person is questioning her so-called 35 years of experience. 35 years of what, being a politician’s wife. Give me break, I think that Hillary is exaggerating her experience, yet no one is questionin her like they are Obama.

OBAMA 08′

71.

Ant$

Friday, January 18, 2008 /

it’s nice to know that people in the congressional black caucus aren’t blindly supporting someone just because of their skin color…

72.

hiphopmom

Friday, January 18, 2008 /

It’s sad to see brother belittling one another.

Bob Johnsons comment was plain stupid and now he’s sorry for the comment.

First of all the comment did not make any sense. The Clintons became deeply and emotionally involved in African American issues when Bill ran for President the first and then the second time. I beleive that Obama was not a teenager in the 90’s. He was an adult at that time Mr. Bob saggy face Johnson.

73.

hiphopmom

Friday, January 18, 2008 /

Every American of African decent should vote for B.O

74.

hiphopmom

Friday, January 18, 2008 /

voting for BO shows American that Blacks of all walks of life can become unified for a positve cause.

75.

hood_shit

Friday, January 18, 2008 /

Get informed- then VOTE!

DO NOT vote for BO because he’s BLACK…. that’s silly as hell!

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