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POLITICS: BET FOUNDER SLAMS OBAMA

Sunday, January 13, 2008

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BET founder and Hillary Clinton supporter Bob Johnson, said Sunday he is “insulted” with the Obama campaign’s latest criticism of Clinton and appeared to take aim at the Illinois senator for his admitted drug use as a young man.

“As an African American, I’m frankly insulted that the Obama campaign would imply that we are so stupid that we would think Bill and Hillary Clinton, who have been deeply and emotionally involved in black issues when Barack Obama was doing something in the neighborhood that I won’t say what he was doing but he said it in his book,” Johnson said while campaigning with Clinton in Columbia, South Carolina.

Moments later, he added: “That kind of campaign behavior does not resonate with me, for a guy who says, ‘I want to be a reasonable, likable, Sidney Poitier ‘Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner.’ And I’m thinking, I’m thinking to myself, this ain’t a movie, Sidney. This is real life.”

At a rally for Clinton at Columbia College, Mr. Johnson was defending recent comments that Mrs. Clinton made regarding Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. She did not mean to take any credit away from him, Mr. Johnson said, when she said that it took President Johnson to sign the civil rights legislation he fought for.

Dr. King had led a “moral crusade,” Mr. Johnson said, but such crusades have to be “written into law.”

“That is the way the legislative process works in this nation and that takes political leadership,” he said. “That’s all Hillary was saying.”

In a statement released by Obama’s campaign Sunday afternoon, former South Carolina State Rep. “I.S.” Leevy Johnson, an Obama supporter, said he was offended Clinton did not condemn Johnson’s comments.

“It’s offensive that Senator Clinton literally stood by and said nothing as another one of her campaign’s top supporters launched a personal, divisive attack on Barack Obama,” he said. “For someone who decries the politics of personal destruction, she should’ve immediately denounced these attacks on the spot.”

Clinton’s campaign says Johnson was not referring to Obama’s past drug use, but rather his career as an organizer and state legislator. Meanwhile, Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones, another African-American supporter of Clinton, said of the comments, “Sometimes people say things that aren’t sanctioned … I can’t speak for Bob.”

Later Sunday, Johnson maintained the comments were not in reference to Obama’s drug use: “My comments today were referring to Barack Obama’s time spent as a community organizer, and nothing else,” he said in an issued statement. “Any other suggestion is simply irresponsible and incorrect.”

In Obama’s 1995 book Dreams of My Father — a book that was little read at the time, but recently reprinted — the future presidential candidate writes he was once headed in the direction of a “junkie” and a “pothead.”

Referring to his emotional struggles as a young man, Obama writes, “Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it. Not smack, though.”

Last month, Clinton New Hampshire co-chairman Bill Shaheen resigned his post after suggesting Republicans would likely raise the issue in a general election.

“The Republicans are not going to give up without a fight … and one of the things they’re certainly going to jump on is his drug use,” Shaheen said then. “It’ll be, ‘When was the last time? Did you ever give drugs to anyone? Did you sell them to anyone?’”

Both campaigns are locked in a heated back and forth over recent remarks from the New York Democrat and her husband that have touched off concerns among some African-American voters. Clinton has alleged Obama’s campaign is distorting the remarks — an accusation Obama has called “ludicrous.”

SOURCES: New York TImes, CNN

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151.

JYGALO

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

#136 right on

I am an educated black person and I am republican, but I defend Obama. If he were not on the democratic ticket, I would even campaign for him. The man stands for hope.

But no way, as a professed christian, am I voting for a party that espouses a revamped idea of marriage and is pro-choice.

152.

psulion

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

“For them to somehow suggest that we’re interjecting race as a consequence of a statement she made, that we haven’t commented on, is pretty hard to figure out,” Barack told reporters on Sunday.

Here goes the Clinton Machine and all of their supporters, (FOX, CNN. CNBC and the like) falsely reporting that this is coming from the OBAMA campaign.

Why is it being reported that this is coming from the “OBAMA” campaign when all of the comments and subsequent comments are coming from the “CLINTON” campaign and the main stream media?

* I am tired of people telling me I support him b/c he’s black when I’ve done my HW. I read his books, I watch the debates, visit his website, and watch his interviews and speeches. I also have read up on the other candidates which is why I also support Kucinich and Edwards. I support Barack b/c he has proven to me that he is the best person for the job. I don’t need the media or other blacks telling me I’m supporting him only b/c of his skin color…the man is also half white. His race has nothing to do with the large support he gets from both minorities and white people. His character and his message resonates within us. For those of us who have learned a lot about him it’s even more clear as to why we want him to win. I will not listen to the people on here or anywhere else tell me why I shouldn’t vote for him, or tell me some bull crap as to why they think the Clintons can deliver us all, especially with their negative dirty politics. The media doesn’t seem to want to address that. I’m thankful that Barack has raised the bar in politics and I hope more people LISTEN & OPEN THEIR EYES to what is really going on. I am supporting Barack Obama!

153.

bill

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

Robert Johnson said

“That kind of campaign behavior does not resonate with me, for a guy who says, ‘I want to be a reasonable, likable, Sidney Poitier ‘Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner.’ And I’m thinking, I’m thinking to myself, this ain’t a movie, Sidney. This is real life.”

Code for I want whites to think I’m a sedate non-threatening negro, who will do as he is told, and speak only when spoken to

154.

LaTasha

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

I have become more and more distanced from the Clinton machine. I never supported her candidacy per se, but as a 25 African-American woman, born into a family of Democrats, I resolved myself to voting for her IF she got the party’s nomination. However, I am so dismayed with the way she has carried herself throughout this election that not only will I not vote for her if the get’s the election, but I will definitely vote for the Republican candidate because I do not want to see her in office.

If fact, she has done something very positive for me. She has made me take a good look at the Republican Party and particularly the Republican candidates in this election. I am researching them as opposed to assuming they are the villians that many young Black people were told they are our whole lives.

As a result of Hillary’s antics my vote will be a lot more informed with respect to candidates on both sides of the aisle. And if she gets the nomination that Mr. Johnson wants her to have, then my little ole’ vote will join the social conservatives, libertarians, national security conservatives, and those good ole’ Reagan and Goldwater Conservatives–who will unite not necessarily in support of the Republican candidate, but to ensure that she does not have the seat.

155.

cdnyc

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

It’s amazing to me the number of black people who criticize other black people because they plan to vote for Barack Obama simply because he is black.

I haven’t heard one criticism of the women who are voting for Hilary simply because she is a woman. My co-worker told me plainly that she was voting for Hilary, #1:because she’s a woman; #2: because she’s the most experienced.

How many white males are voting for Edwards, Thompson, or Paul simply b/c they want to keep the presidential power in the hands of white males?

How many evangelical Christians are voting for Huckabee simply b/c he’s an evangelical Christian?

How many Mormon’s are voting for Romney simply b/c they want to see a Mormon as President?

I’m not condoning the reasoning of the voters I mentioned above, but I have noticed that black people are the ONLY ones attacking, belittling, and berating each other about this issue.

156.

CLEARMINDED

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

I think much of the old-guard black leaders are much more comfortable being the lap dogs of white liberals like Hillary Clinton pretending that they represent all of Black America than with fostering independent-thinking and intellectually achieving black individuals. They’d rather that black people be a flock of sheep who look to them for the way they should think instead of becoming strong individuals who don’t need mouthpieces.

We need more Bill Cosbys, Corey Bookers and Barack Obamas and fewer Al Sharptons, Sharpe James and Bob Johnsons.

I’m amazed at the venom coming from people like Andrew Young talking about how young Obama is when MLK did all he did and DIED before he even reached Obama’s age. Just old desperate men talking.

157.

americans for change

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

I just heard the actual statement air on msnbc directly from johnson. I believe this is how blacks kill one another. we kill each other in the streets, black brothers killing black brothers in the street, then we degrade our women by calling them whores and seeing what people like imus said which is what all or most whites think anyway. he just was more vocal publicly, but this is what they think and say in private anyway. there is nothing we can do about blacks like johnson, and those who feel like him, I would encourage every black and other people who are strong in the conviction about Obama, and not just because he’s blacks, to contact Obama’s headquarter and give your time and money to support him. together we can make a difference. I heard jesse jackson on saturday state the there were blacks who were against martin luther king, so blacks like johnson is not anything new.

be strong and stay true to what you believe, if he wins there will be more hits directed at him about race than you have ever seen. so for all you people talking about experience, this brother is getting his experience.

go Obama

158.

Ms.Dyme

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

First and foremost, I need for everyone to understand this. The President of the US only has limited powers. He’s just a puppet for Congress; without the House and Senate, he’s only allowed to do so much. So, to whomever that get into the WH, they can only accomplish so much by themselves. If you think about it, and as far as I can recollect, Bush, Jr. is the ONLY President that has used his presidential vetoing power to do whatever he damn well pleased. This country needs change & these candidates can make all the promises that they want, but unless Congress approves, it’s not going to make a bit of difference.

Secondly, we need a President who has a strong domestic policy instead of a foreign policy. Bush, jr. has destroyed both!!! Right now what the US needs is a CHANGE!!! We’re tired of the BS!! Gas is too high, groceries are too high, healthcare is high, the mortgage & credit industry is out of control, it’s too damn much!! I’ve never seen an economy this worst off!! So, the incoming candidate sure better have his/her sleeves rolled up & ready to lock & load, b/c they sure have a big mess to clean up. While we’re on that subject, let me give it to you plain & simple. This incoming candidate is going to need 4yrs alone to clean up what BJr. has done and if he/she doesn’t get it right, everybody & their mother will be talking trash about how he/she hasn’t done anything right, but dang, look at the kind of administration that they are coming into!!

All that to say, Brothers & Sisters, we need to stop backbiting & tearing each other down. Grow up and open your eyes. Open your eyes to the Game that the “other” folks play. It’s ridiculous the way they exploit us, but it is even more shameful & disgraceful the way that we exploit & tear down our own!! Stop buying into this materialistic society and looking up to these celebrities. Get YOUR mind, body & SOUL right!!! Don’t put all Your FAITH in man, but in HE that sustains you.

^^^ COSIGN!

159.

Jamie

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

Here wo go! What politician hasn’t dome drugs (or isn’t still doing them).
Obama ‘08!

160.

realstateofmind

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

plz…..just make sure all of you who are posting go out and VOTE so we can have a voice…..

161.

KDL

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

he needs to shut the hell up….wtf!?!?!?!??!! ignorant ass comment!

and wtf..”that I won’t say what he was doing but he said it in his book,” shut up!

OBAMA FOR PRESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

162.

SOMETHINGNEW

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

@ HUH…# 36..ACTUALLY I do know what OBAMA stands for….before u belittle my knowledge or anyone else’s knowledge on this post I know THAT :
OBAMAI fought for jobs for the jobless and hope for the hopeless on the streets of Chicago. OBAM for the same reason fought for justice and equality as a civil rights lawyer AND OBAMA for the same reason fought for Illinois families for over a decade…AND
Barack Obama has been a champion of improving government ethics at both the state and federal level. AND
New York Times: “A Review Of Mr. Obama’s Statements On Iraq Since 2002 Shows That He Has Opposed The War Against Saddam Hussein Consistently.”
AND LASTLY….
a quote from MY president:
“The time has come to help homeowners who are struggling to pay their mortgages, provide relief to those who were ripped off by lenders, and raise the minimum wage so working families can afford the rising costs in this country,” Obama continued. “Now is the time to put divisive politics aside and come together as a nation to solve our problems and bring about change we can believe in.”
OBAMA ‘08…YES WE CAN!!!

163.

Astrid

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

Bob Johnson is a punk ass sellout. BET is/was his brainchild. It should be clear that he has no loyalty whatsoever to the Black community and he is just trying to align himself with this clown Clinton — the same one who said that MLK, Jr’s input in the Civil Rights Movement was not as important as some would like us to believe. Coon!!

164.

UmBrook

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

During the Clinton administration Bob Johnson received tons of favors. When Bill was president, Johnson was a fixture at the White House. (probably slept in the Lincoln bedroom more times than Lincoln did) Now that Hilary is running for President, those favors are being called in. The Clintons do not want his financial support, they want his loud and vocal support for Hilary and his loud and vocal opposition for Barack. Hilary took a play from the Willie Lynch playbook. If she can not get all of the black vote, then why not splinter it so that it does not benefit her strongest opponent.

Sidenote to Hoke (Bob Johnson)
Keep driving Miss Daisy, Bob. When you have to “make water”, I pray for your sake Miss Daisy allows you.

165.

Andrice

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

Some may be too young to remeber, but Bob Johnson also had serious beef with another black man witha little power and intellect. The man at the time was Tavis Smiley. Tavis had THE BEST show on BET at the time…I believe it was BET tonight or Talk withTavis circa 2000. Anywho, it was going great and Tavis had quite the influene around the circuit. Well needless to say Bob didn’t like it, he and Tavis apparantley had words and Bob pulled the plug on the show THAT DAY. Literally one noght the show was on, the next Bob was on in its time slot “tactfully” tearing down Tavis.

My point is that Bob is a house nigga that can’t take true intellectual competition. He likes, in my opinion, to be the “first black…” the “only black…” He OBVIOUSLY has coonish ways, given the direction that BET has taken. There are many like him. Many of us work with or for some. It is what it is. He is an easy make. Hiliary is a liar and a loser, with no credibility in my book. Just look up what she had to say to a crowd of hispanics this past week. She is saying and doing whatever is necessary to win. I don’t like her…and I will not vote for her. “Work in the neighborhood” historically for me has been beneficial. Bob Johnson, Hiliary Clinton and everyother opportunist can kick rocks. Kudos to Obama for staying above the fray.

Oh and ps…I got high once too and I am a doctor now!

166.

Renae

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

I think race should not play a factor period when it comes to the 08 Presidential election. We should vote for the person we feel is best qualified for the job and who we feel will help do the best job for our country (and its going to be hard for whoever will be replacing Bush period). We should not let whose supporting or whose not supporting these candidates influence our decisions at all.

As far as Mr. Johnson is concerned, he helped to bring BET down. I mean being a Black Female I’ve tried to support BET but nothing is on BET but a bunch of garbage and it has been that way for a long time. Sometimes we need to take a long hard look at ourselves before we start to point fingers at others. We are all human and ALL have made stupid mistakes especially during our teenage years and honestly once you grow up, change, and do better, and in Obama’s case has talked about it openly for everyone to know, why do others continue to bring it up in an effort to bring him down.

167.

SOMETHINGNEW

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

IT’S A MOVEMENT…..VERY INSPIRATIONAL VIDEO…WE HAVE A CHANCE TO MAKE HISTORY YALL! I JUST ASK THAT YOU DO YOUR RESAERCH AND VOTE FOR THE BEST CANDIDATE THAT WILL BRING THIS NATION TOGETHER!!!

PLEASE WATCH:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K_ntZEPlHI

168.

realstateofmind

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

oh I have no respect for Bob Johnson if he cared so much about black people at the end of the day why would he allow all those degrading images on BET. he had enough money to last he and his family a lifetime and other business ventures going on. I remember someone saying while Bobby teaches his daughter to be an equestrian and ride horses he’s teaching all our daughters to ride other things….I know it’s up to us as Parents to be role models but it takes a village to raise a child.

169.

RileyFinesse

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

@5. Speak Sister!! BET has a lot to do with how African American people are portrayed!

so true, so true

170.

realstateofmind

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

real way off the subject but my point Bob Johnson is not credible. But it is about business for him and who would make more money for him in the end…period

171.

Andrice

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

JYGALO, i was with you until that last comment. Friend nothing is as it seems when it comes to part platforms and alleged positions on key topics. Please believe that many republicans and their family members are homosexual and have taken advantage of abortion options !

172.

Andrice

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

Ps I am black and so is obama, which is at least ONE of several reasons that I will vote for him if he obtains the DNC nomination. Otherwise its huckabee or romney for me!

173.

kisha

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

how could we not support a viable Black candidate for president?
i urge yawl to think for yourselves and not take everything at face value. Remember - Bob Johnson caused an uproar in the Black community when he sold black Bet to white Viacom.
let’s be real people.
Obama ‘08

174.

americans for change

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

We are bickkering amongst ourselves, but lets analyze this thing,

1. Pres Johnson sign the voting rigths bill, which Bush probably did not want to sign, but why did he have to? Blacks in America, the country we help build is at the mercy of every other race when it come to voting. they must sign a bill every 25 years that gives us even the right to vote. other people come to this country and that right is given to them as citizens, give me a break, our fight is about the wrong thing. people love to see us fighting among ourselves, killing ourselves, hating ourselves,while drugs is been pushed into our community by who? bad loans are offered to us by who? college education is a joke to many of our hard working blacks who want to go to a school other than a black college. UCLA IN 2006 ADMITTED ONLY 96 BLACKS, we have are fight against the wrong people , and hillary and everyone else loves to see it that way.

now they accuse Obama for bringing up the race card, reverse psychology, I’m tired of it. this man(Obama) has not gone negative, but they would like for him to. let’s all try to stay above the negative, and stick to the facts, go to obama’s web site find out what he is all about, do your research on both candidates, hillary carries a lot of bagage because she has been in the game longer, she is establishment. and she has made a lot of wrong votes and choices, but for some blacks that’s okay, but it’s not okay if you are looking at obama, people are looking back to the good old days when they were better off. some act like clinton was passing out million dollar bills. people we will not be going back to those days, stop living in the past. it’s time to turn the page.

175.

Meat

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

Go to this site and see which candidate you line up with most:

http://www.electoralcompass.com

The survey takes about 10 minutes and it will show you how different Obama is from all the other candidates!

==============================

Also, I really think Bob had an obligation to keep BET in the black community, but he put his own personal goals first! He sold out! Who does he think bought all those Ebony and Jet magazines? Mexicans can watch “Telemundo”, while black people have to watch “Brother Gerald’s Inspirations” all night long! Bob Johnson is just wrong!

Obviously, Johnson owed the Clintons for some past favor! Don’t be surprised if she wins and appoints Bob Johnson to some glorified position over black community relations.

Uncle Bob!!

176.

bill

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

Read this article for the entire story
http://www.nytimes.com/20...661c04c&ex=1200459600

and then read this article
http://www.timesonline.co...ctions/article3173652.ece

A lot of people are pissed off with Hillary Clinton now, because of that remark she made about Martin Luther King, and also Bill Clinton’s remark that Obama campaign is a fairytale…..Now we have This remark by Bob Johnson.

Hillary just lost a LOT of voters with the remarks made by herself, bill clinton & bob johnson

177.

J. Dakar

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

#150: Obama was elected to the Illinois State Senate in 1996. In 2000, he made an unsuccessful Democratic primary run for the U.S. House of Representatives. He was re-elected to the Illinois Senate in 1998 and 2002, officially resigning in November 2004 following his election to the U.S. Senate. Obama was sworn in as a Senator on January 4, 2005.

Following the November 1978 election of her husband as Governor of Arkansas, Clinton became First Lady of Arkansas in January 1979, her title for a total of twelve years (1979–1981, 1983–1992). When Bill Clinton took office as president in January 1993, Hillary Rodham Clinton became the First Lady of the United States. When long-serving United States Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan of New York announced his retirement in November 1998, several prominent Democratic figures, including Representative Charles Rangel, urged Clinton to run for Moynihan’s open seat in the United States Senate election of 2000. She became the first First Lady of the United States to be a candidate for elected office. She was sworn in as United States Senator on January 3, 2001.

Clinton’s talk of experience is based on her husband’s gubernatorial and presidential past; don’t get me wrong: she’s served as adviser to a lot of committees and held positions on various boards. Her elected experience, however, did not occur until she was elected to the U.S. Senate in 2001.

A friend sent me this great analogy:
In a news conference Deanna Favre announced she will be the starting QB for the Packers this coming Sunday. Deanna asserts that she is qualified to be starting QB because she has spent the past 16 years married to Brett while he played QB for the Packers. During this period of time she became familiar with the definition of a corner blitz, and is now completely comfortable with other terminology of the Packers offense. A survey of Packers fans shows that 50% of those polled supported the move.

Does this sound idiotic and unbelievable to you? Well, Hillary Clinton makes the same claims as to why she is qualified to be President and 50% of Democrats polled agreed. She has never run a City, County, or State.

When told Hillary Clinton has experience because she has 8 years in the White
House, Dick Morris stated “so has the pastry chef.”

Peace and blessings,
J. Dakar

178.

JUDAH

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

Here’s what I don’t understand in regards to this non-issue. This is the presidential electoral process for America, not black America, so why does it make a difference who Robert Johnson chooses to support? According to the Americanized negro, Dr. King “fought so that color shouldn’t matter”. Is Robert Johnson, as an “affluent” negro, supposed to stand behind Obama because he is black? I thought that the democratic electoral process was not about color, allegedly. This is what I mean when I refer to the confusion of black people and this faux “pro-black” mindset. Either you’re for your people, or you’re for America. You can’t have both because the last thing that America, any of these candidates, democrat or republican, care about is black people or the black community. The black community must be tended to and given attention like infants so that they think that they actually have a say in how their plantation is run. This is why when Clinton or Obama speak in front of a predominately black audience they both alter their diction. It’s mockery and black people are not in on the joke. Honestly speaking, this whole thing makes me laugh because most of the black people that are for Obama and castigating Robert Johnson are the same ones that would be “cooning” for Hillary if Obama was not in the race, and probably still will be if she receives the nomination for the democratic ticket. Furthermore, this proves that black people have no scope or ultimate goal for their governmental takeover of America if they cannot even handle Robert Johnson coming against Obama in the early part of this charade. Most of Obama’s laundry is going to be aired out, and if Robert Johnson didn’t stand with the Clintons, there are a long list of negroes that would take his place.In my opinion, if Hillary as a white woman is shrewd enough to stand back and coordinate a verbal or ideological altercation between two negroes so that she can emerge the winner, more power to her. It’s the American way.

179.

UmBrook

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

Ebony and Jet Magazines? Meat, you got your Johnsons mixed up.

Johnson PuBLICATIONS PUBLISHES e

180.

UmBrook

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

Johnson Publications publishes Ebony and Jet.

181.

bill

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

J. Dakar said:

A friend sent me this great analogy:
In a news conference Deanna Favre announced she will be the starting QB for the Packers this coming Sunday. Deanna asserts that she is qualified to be starting QB because she has spent the past 16 years married to Brett while he played QB for the Packers. During this period of time she became familiar with the definition of a corner blitz, and is now completely comfortable with other terminology of the Packers offense. A survey of Packers fans shows that 50% of those polled supported the move.

Does this sound idiotic and unbelievable to you? Well, Hillary Clinton makes the same claims as to why she is qualified to be President and 50% of Democrats polled agreed. She has never run a City, County, or State.

When told Hillary Clinton has experience because she has 8 years in the White
House, Dick Morris stated “so has the pastry chef.”

Bill Said:

That was a great analogy….
I’m going to have to borrow that one sir…

182.

TOO TOT

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

AND BOB JOHNSON WHORED BET TO VIACOM. WHY SHOULD HIS OPINION MATTER….. IF HE CARED ABOUT THE WELFARE OF BLACKS HE WOULD HAVE SECURED A BETTER FUTURE FOR THE BIGGEST BLACKK NETWORK…YET HE DIDINT! WONDER HOW MUCH HE IS MAKING OFF ENDORSING HILL

ITS TIME FOR A CHANGE ..OVER THE PAST 20 YEARS THIS COUNTRY HAS BEEN RUN BY CLINTONS AND BUSHES …WE NEED CHANGE! HILARY IS NOT GOING TO BRING THAT!

183.

TOO TOT

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

TERI…NOT ALL BLACKS IN POWER TURN UNCLE TOM…..YOU HAVE THESE TYPE OF PEOPLE IN EVERY RACE!

184.

TOO TOT

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

entice well said!!!!

With the state of BET and everything that it showcases of the African American community, Bob Johnson is really in no state to discuss how he feels as a black man about Barack Obama. How can he sit down and see what his channel purports and make social commentary? He needs to step up to the plate and discuss the fact that BET is helping to kill the black community before he jumps down another man’s throat for his past indiscretions. Both candidates are strong, but Hillary’s comment were wrong (I am sure she didn’t mean it the way it sounded but I mean even before anyone said anything I took it the wrong way) and Barack isn’t perfect…but I mean lets be real Bob Johnson needs to look at the damage his channel is doing and focus on that before offering his opinions.

185.

T*Mobile

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

Maya Angelou endorses Hillary Clinton:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T45O9q_BQKA

186.

T*Mobile

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

Also can we please stop talking about race and gender and focus on the issues, I’m tired of the media making such a big deal about this.

I don’t think the comments made by Hillary were in any way meant to be offensive, you could tell what she was trying to say when you watch the video, she just worded it wrong. I think it’s wrong that this is becoming an issue when there are more important things to be discussed.

187.

SHAYLA

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

MARK –GET SOME KNOWLEDGE

AND I AGREEE

Bob Johnson is such an Uncle Tom! He won’t take a take a stand on the ‘nappy headed ho’ comments, but he chooses to use his influence to attack Obama. All the while Republicans are laughing because they know this willl split the Democrat votes , thus making easier for them to stay in office. He should be ashamed of his self. Clinton is just as self -serving as any of the Republican candidates. She does not care about black people. He may want to do some research before decides top bad-mouth Obama and jump in bed with Clinton.

188.

DropKick

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

Although I’m incline to partially agree with you Judah on some points, I think the fact still remains that Bob Johnson was in no way in a position to throw stones, nor should he had allowed himself to be used to be a stone thrower. We know that he sold his company to white media, and now owns a ball team. Which by the way, is co-owned by a certain “ex-drug dealer” turned rapper/business man. We know this because he has said it on his records, yet he (Johnson) still pushing his product without every mentioning Nelly’s past. Nor Jordan’s who is a confessed gambler and a known womanizer.

Also to be fair, Mr. Johnson could have said “Hillary was fighting for us in the trenching, even while Bill was getting some head in the oval office.” but he didn’t. It’s what he did chose to say that has me concerned not from the political aspects, but for the ethical one. Where was Hillary’s voice after Katrina, Jena 6? If she and Bill were fighting the good fight for us, that would still be fresh in our minds and she could stand on that, but the batch was absent. Bill was a cool Pres, but we know he’s playing us, because they (both) are the masters at this type of politics. They did it first and Rove did it worst.

Bottomline, I think they went with Bob Johnson to sort of off sets Oprah’s millions and support and to show a rich nig,…I mean black man supporting them too.

I’m with OBAMA, not because he’s blacks, but because the republicans don’t give a dam about us, Hillary cares even less. Obama is the change we need to at least get the conversation started that we need to be heard and the world needs to know these fools talking about war aren’t speaking for all Americans. Plus healthcare is a mess. Futhermore, I think that Michelle Obama will do great things for women and children issues, particularly because they have young kids to consider. The others don’t have small kids. They could careless about child care, welfare, jobs, education or anything that really matters to working families, except Edwards, and he better jump on board the Obama train so he don’t miss the ticket. Hillary is running for history and to kick Bill out. We know she couldn’t leave him because she wanted to be President, but after this its a wrap, because how can you run the country when you can’t run your (White) house? While she’s at peace conferences, hell be in the back porking the help.

Let’s (The Obama) talk about restoring class, honor and family values to the White House, they (The Clinton’s) can’t run on that.

189.

bill

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

T*Mobile said:

Also can we please stop talking about race and gender and focus on the issues, I’m tired of the media making such a big deal about this.

Bill Said:
Hilliary Clinton is a woman
Barack Obama is a Black Man

People are just suppose to ignore those two facts?
People vote for the candidate that they most identify with
a lot of woman are going to vote for Hilliary Clinton because she IS a woman…..

cdnyc said:
It’s amazing to me the number of black people who criticize other black people because they plan to vote for Barack Obama simply because he is black.

I haven’t heard one criticism of the women who are voting for Hilary simply because she is a woman. My co-worker told me plainly that she was voting for Hilary, #1:because she’s a woman; #2: because she’s the most experienced.

How many white males are voting for Edwards, Thompson, or Paul simply b/c they want to keep the presidential power in the hands of white males?

How many evangelical Christians are voting for Huckabee simply b/c he’s an evangelical Christian?

How many Mormon’s are voting for Romney simply b/c they want to see a Mormon as President?

I’m not condoning the reasoning of the voters I mentioned above, but I have noticed that black people are the ONLY ones attacking, belittling, and berating each other about this issue.

Bill Said:

I cosign 101%

190.

Meat

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

@185 T*Mobile said: “…Maya Angelou endorses Hillary Clinton”

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Well, we all know the story about Aunt JaMaya and her husband. The Clintons are feeling the heat from Obama getting endorsed by people like John Kerry! So, Bill has made a few phone calls to some of the folks he had over for dinner when he was in the oval office…not with Monica!

Don’t be suprised if Bill Cosby and Ice T aren’t next to endorse Hillary!

191.

Andrice

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

Judah…will you marry me?

192.

cdnyc

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

#177: When told Hillary Clinton has experience because she has 8 years in the White House, Dick Morris stated “so has the pastry chef.” LOLOLOL!!! Now, that’s funny.

Thanks for the info. That puts the whole “experience” argument in a different light for me now.

The Deanna Favre analogy sounds like what Chris Rock said:

One of his best bits involved a sideways reference to his personal life. While discussing Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s presidential campaign, he mocked the notion that she had presidential experience, explaining that marriage doesn’t confer professional expertise. By way of example, he mentioned his own marriage.

“I’ve been with my wife for 10 years now,” he said. “If she got onstage right now, y’all wouldn’t laugh at all.”

193.

JUDAH

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

@Andrice

Awwww…..that’s cute, lol.

194.

A MOTHER

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

I have been reading this thread all weekend in regards to t he political scene and just last night I told someone abotu how proud of the young people of concreteloop for posting this and that you guys were really doing your homework.
listen young people I am 56 years old and you are not off key at all, in fat most of you are wise beyond your years and you all seem to know game and sabotage.
Let me say this I voted for the Clintons twice and even when I heard a year ago that she might be running I had said then i would not vote for her and the reason was since she likes to use the word experience, I remembered what we “experienced” as a result of Bill being a liar, adulterer and during his impeacment hearings his whoremongering while in Arkansas. He lied to the country, showed no respect for his office or us as a people we as a people as his position or his family were the first ting on his mind. Hillary then was a ride or die wife and she still is. I said then if youtell two lies then you will tell three and even God hates a liar.
I am not voting for Hillary because a vote for Hillary is a vote for him. Yes, i forgave just like the rest of the country, but it does not mean I have to back track.
I have been blessed by God to see this day a black person having th courage to believe they could hold the highest office in this land, what is wrong with that dream????? I have two sons and I would support them, because they dared to dream and believe and to do it with integrity and character says a lot more than ability. Your abilities may get you in the door but it is your character that will get you there.
Hillary insulted me as a Christian to use to house of God for her devilish mess.
Mr.Obama is a man and it was a total disrespect to his manhood for her to notsaw anything, she knew what Mr. Johnson was up too.
She has the spirit of Jezebel and that is a deadly and evil spirit.She and Bill are throwing rocks and trying to hide their hands, just like satan.
You young people pay attention.
She and Bill have no right to say one word about Me. Obama, not one word. Because it is because of Gods grace and mercy that he was not impeached and if he had been, we wouldn’t be dealing with them today ot their mess today.
Yes, they have experienced, they are experienced at being messy and destructive with anyone who gets in their self-serving way. Since is their favorite word.
They need experience in class and tact and keeping their mouths off of other people.
My sons are voting for Obama and my 8 year old grandson has been listening to his speeches and my son is now reading Mr. Obamas book Audacity to Hope to him each day.
This is your hour to make a change and make a difference…this is your future……and your childrens, why do we have to wait before we elect a black man as President….how long do we wait. We can give our best shot.
WE CAN DO THIS!!!!!!
I am proud of each of you.

195.

Thoro!

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

Let’s just stick to the issues! Why do Black folks feel they owe the Clinton’s anything?! Hell they had their time office. The Clintons need to step aside and begint the endorment process for Obama.
It should be against the Laws of the Governing office for Families to try to monopolize the Presidencey. Next thing you know the Clinton’s daughter will have a run at the office as well. The Bushes and the Clintons would like to hand the presidency to as many family members as possible. Obamma represents a new vision- The clintons Rep means been there done that.
Mrs.Clinton needs to save her tears!

196.

Karen

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

I find it suspicious that all of a sudden all these ace issues and controversies are coming out right before the people of South Carolina (predominantly black voters) are set to vote. I do believe that Obama’s camp had something to do with the pushing of this story to the media. All I know is it is getting ugly.

Also I am liking that there is unbiased reporting of the election on this site.

197.

Meat

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

188. DropKick

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Great points! You dropped kicked “name calling Judah” right in the “Coon”!

Did anyone take this survey?

http://www.electoralcompass.com

What did you think and who was your match?

198.

Karen

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

* I meant race issues, sorry

199.

nikki

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

The biggest sellout there ever was is trying to pass judgement on Obama??!?…whatever. His network has singlehandedly set black folk back 600 years and we must turn around and support his perspective on things? That is highly insulting to me. Bob Johnson has been and continues to be easily bought by the highest bidder.

200.

BCAII

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

Mt. Johnson’s comments were ignorant and self-righteous
You’re right, you should NOT vote for somebody because they are the same race.
But you also should NOT vote AGAINST somebody because they are the same race.

WAKE UP MY PEOPLE.

If Obama, and Hilary were two middle-age white men, we wouldn’t care about Obama’s past drug use, we’d call him the “New Bill Clinton” and keep movin.

Hilary’s stance on women’s issues wouldn’t matter.

Obama being black does not make him better or worse.
Hilary being female does not make him better or worse.

IT’S ABOUT ISSUES
IT’S ABOUT LEADERSHIP
IT’S ABOUT CHARISMA

To me Obama has all three, but that’s my opinion.

but, making a choice without listening to them is the greatest mistake of all.
We are not talking about PRESIDENT.

Your Life is in their hands.
We must choose a better lives for ourselves and our people.

Make the Right Choice!

201.

Have Not Thought of a New User Name

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

I couldn’t wait to see this post, when I seen this on CNN last night I was pissed. First of all, Barak Obama never even made a statement or comment about the whole MLK comment Hillary just can’t accept that she put her foot in her mouth and wants to blame her competition.

I used to have respect for Bob Johnson untill last night, I felt he should have been a lot smarter than what he was he should have seen that the Clinton campaign was using him. Oh and also Bob Johnson I am insulted that you would make a statement like you made and then say I was talking about “community service” please!!!!!!!!! I stupid dou you think we are? if you were talking about community servie why didn’t you just say that? What is so wrong with community service that you can’t name it?

202.

BCAII

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

^^^^^^^^^I meant we are talking about PRESIDENT

203.

huh?

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

@ Karen what are you talking about unbiased? This site is so pro Obama it is ridiculous! And I wonder why, oh maybe because it is a black site and he is black SMH. Also I found it offensive when Obama compared himself to MLK and JFK, sorry but those are two of the biggest heroes in history, Obama doesn’t even compare.

204.

Meat

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

194. A MOTHER!

Great post Sis!

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It’s good to read the thoughts of wisdom and truth! I have the feeling that many of the posters on this topic are wise beyond their years or they’re closer to your age! The depth of knowledge is greater than our usual “hip-hop” and “rocked it”! I learn a lot from people like you, Bill and Dropkick! But not from name calling “Judah”! Everyone’s a coon to him! I don’t understand why he has a personal vendeta against Obama!

Anyhow, keep posting A MOTHER, Bill and Dropkick!

205.

angie79

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

Uhhh…Bill Clinton smoked some stuff too…

So Im gonna need for Hilary and CO. to go somewhere and sit down…

Im not voting for her anyway…OBAMA!!!…

206.

blindfoldu

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

fuck bob johnson…founder of BET=automatic shut the fuck up

OBAMA 08…

smh 2 some of you cooning ass black people…

207.

Meat

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

203. huh? said: “…Also I found it offensive when Obama compared himself to MLK and JFK”

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Why are you offended? Everyone else is comparing Obama to them! On the night of his Iowa victory speech, everyone was mesmerized by his oratoation, “Yes We Can”, “Yes We Can”!

I can’t wait for Michelle to drop kick Hillary for dissing her man! It’s fixing to get heated! Y’all need to stop trippin and don’t fight the funk!

208.

ronnie

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

Bob says that he wasn’t talking about Sen. Obama’s past drug use. So is he trying to discredit Baracks efforts as a community organizer in Chicago? Bob either way you try to explain it you sound ignorant!

209.

D Myrick

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

Johnson is an IDIOT……ENOUGH said!!!
Obama 08!!!!

210.

LaTasha

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

This comment is somewhat directed at #141 Jayla07, but more generally to many of those who responded to this post. You made a couple of comments regarding your support of Hillary, one of which you began by stating that you are a proud graduate of Spelman College.

As a proud graduate of Rutgers University (State U in NJ), and a soon to be graduate of The Howard University School of Law, I have no problem with your support of Hillary or any other candidate of your choosing. However, you have repeatedly assumed that the Obama supporters who have commented on this posting are in favor of him because of his race. That is problemmatic. I think it is unfortunate that when you wholeheartedly and unapologetically support a candidate that happens to be Black, it is assumed that you are solely supporting him because he is Black. I support Barack because I think he is a movement candidate. I think he represents more than a Presidential nominee, but a force that is diametrically opposed to what American politics currently stands for. He seems so different because he is that different.

One commenter suggested that Black people want the same patronage politics game that they have received from White politicians for years. That is, they embrace a handful of folks who do not threaten the establishment, all the while doing nothing for the masses. They passify us, not work for us.

Barack Obama (to me) is changing that specifically, but generally is pushing to change the face of politics, and will make it such that we are not dealing with the lesser of two evils, but rather moving towards a viable solution to the problems plaguing all Americans.

I also remember another post (#98 Simone) that said “Obama is too liberal,” and his politics will affect children, Christians and our economy. This person seems to be calling for is a “conservative” in Liberal clothing! This is precisely the problem. If you do not want anything to change with respect to how this society is governed then yes vote Hillary, or McCain, or Romney, or Thompson. If you want a candidate that will do little to shift the statusquo then I agree with you all, Hillary is the girl! She is the only Democratic candidate of the three that are left that supported the war in Iraq, and that will keep the troops there “until it is safe for them to return.” Those are her words, and it is political speak for “indefinitely.”

I will say this, I believe despite race Barack Obama will be good for America domestically. In addition, he is a uniter who can do much for this country’s image abroad, and I think his “extremely liberal policies” are what is needed to provide the change that this country needs.

Although I would believe this regardless of his race, I think it is his rac–in part–that makes him such a dynamic speaker, thinker, politician, and leader. You can deny it if you want to, but race plays a significant role in EVERYTHING in America. A Black man with the name Barack Obama graduating from Columbia University and Harvard Law, and making Law Review while at Harvard (do your research the Harvard Law Review is a very big deal), then working for Sidley Austin–a large Corporate law firm. Trust me, this man has been reminded that he is Black everyday of his life, and that in addition to everything else that he is, is what has shaped his politics and his worldview. Unlike many candidates who range from indifferent to the predicament of the Black masses, to patronizing, I am supporting a candidate that not only can be sympathetic towards my plight as a Black woman in America, but can also empathize with me.

I will end here, because I am sure some of you folks will motivate me to post some more of my thoughts.

Thank you all for such a thought provoking dialogue. I think this type of exchange is beneficial to us all because if we allow ourselves to at least understand the other person’s position (as opposed to dismissing it) we all can learn something. And if nothing else, hearing the opposing argument gives you the necessary ingredients with which to strengthen your own.

Peace & Blessings.

211.

JUDAH

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

If Obama did compare himself to Martin Luther King and Kennedy, it is a very apropos comparison. He’s subliminally telling his audience that he also is a figurehead “Christ figure” with no real intent on executing any agenda outside of the one stipulated to him by his benefactors. At least Clinton and Bush are good actorswhen they enact their agendas; Obama is like a piece of cardboard. He is also a Zionist puppet of the Israeli government and the MI5. His father has ties to Al-Qaeda but it is being kept on the hush hush until the right time, if that time ever presents itself. This is why the caucasian media mocks him by referring to him as “Barack Osama” and acts as if it is a typographical error, lol. The same typograhical error made numerous times? Obama is loyal to his benefactors while the Clintons can be rebellious and are scions of the Rockeller ruling family, hence the reason why they got Bill Clinton in a compromising position with that Israeli Mossad agent Monica Lewinsky.

212.

Ron

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

I’m 22 and this will make the second time I will vote. My vote is going to Obama.
I’m right outside of Chicago and our election is on Feb 5 but we can vote early. Members of my family and myself will vote sometime this week so we won”t need to wait in any long lines. The Clintons are doing them, So lets do something for us. I NEVER thought Bill Clinton was the Black community’s first black president. That’s an insult to us as a people and so are Hillary and Bill. Personally I think Hillary’s run for President of the U.S. is Bill’s back door way of serving a third term as President. Because a U.S. President can only serve two terms as President. There should be a new law stating a spouse can’t run for President if their spouse was a former President! I was never voting for Hillary and if she does get the Dem nomination I will vote for a republican before I cast a vote for her. Bob Johnson must be smoking drugs himself. Black People the REVOLUTION WILL BE TELEVISED.

213.

DCTRINIGYAL

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

HILARY 08…NUFF SAID

214.

Have Not Thought of a New User Name

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

I get so tierd of people saying people are voting for Barack because of his race, I know some people may be doing that, but most of the people I talk to or know have researched him. I am voting for Barack because I agree with what he’s trying to do. Hillary might have gotten my vote if Barack didn’t get nominated but I will vote republican (I kind of like Mike Huckabee (sp?) even though it dosn’t look like he will get the GOP nod) if she gets the nod.

I researched her and she has some good plans but what bothered me the most is that she fills she is intitled to the black vote and why? She has been playing dirty since she lost Iowa and I don’t like that. I’m not saying vote for Barack because he’s black but I don’t condone anybody trying to bring a possitive black man down.

side note: why would Barack make this a race issue when he is half white, and was raised by his white gandparents?

215.

lil mama

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

@#88 and #93 THANK YOU YALL HIT THAT SHIT RIGHT ON THE HEAD!!!

216.

bill

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

You know what’s really amazing to me..
*J, Dakar, please chime in. We are waiting to hear your analysis sir..

it’s That Sen. John McClain could be the Republican candidate !!

“McCain is now the choice of 33 percent of Republican primary voters in the poll, up from just seven percent in the last CBS News/New York Times poll taken in December. Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee is in second place with 18 percent, down from 21 percent in December. The biggest drop downward is in former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani’s support, from leading at 22 percent in the last poll to ten percent now. Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney and former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson are tied in this poll at eight percent”

But what is REALLY amazing to me is that Barack Obama won Iowa.

A Black Man won the Iowa caucus !!!!
and He almost won New Hampshire…..

Although Democrates favor Clinton over Obama, it’s only by a few percentage points

Barack Obama can REALLY win this thing…
Isn’t that exciting !!!!

217.

americans for change

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

# 167 I saw the you tube clip it was very inspiring. this is the affect Obama is having on America, White America, Black america, old and young.

Stay positive, after all , this is Obama’s philosphy. Just as mlk’s philosphy was non violence. of course there were people who did not want to remain non-violent just as we have people who does not want to remain positive. at least on obama’s camp we can remain positive. Obama has not gone NEGATIVE even though hillary wants people to think that he has.

218.

bill

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

Obama takes narrow lead over Clinton in Nevada
http://news.aol.com/elect...80114150009990025?cid=435

219.

dizzle jizzle

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

And this was BET Uncut Bob Johnson…

220.

nuggams

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

Well her husband did the same thing, and tried to sugar coat it, and messed with Lewinsky in the dang oval office, so what is his point!

221.

bill

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

You know, for all intense purposes,
Either Barack Obama or Hilliary Clinton WILL win the Democratic Nomination…..

No one else is capable of winning
*Come one, Edwards, doesn’t have a chance…It’s not his time
The next President will be either Obama or Clinton, ESPECIALLY if John McClain win the Republican Nomination

It would be great if Obama & Clinton could come to sort of agreeement…
If one of them were to win, the other would serve as Vice President.

Barack Obama for President !
Hilliary Clinton for Vice President !

If they ran their campaign in THAT particular manner, they would both be unbeatable……

222.

JUDAH

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

@Bill

Brother, I don’t understand. Do you no longer admire Hillary Clinton or do you want her to now take a subservient role to Barack Obama in the presidential election?

223.

JSCENE

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

All i can say is black people never stick together, no matter what. They are always able to divide us with issues. Just sad…Bob Johnson, shame on you…i’m surprised you made that statement before looking deeper.

I haven’t made a political choice yet, all the candidates are still putting their campaign promises on the tables, but for Bob Johnson to make this comment so cavalierly, it’s just sad, sad, sad.

224.

.ice

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

This coming from the NIGGA that created BET, the station that depicts black people in a negative light??!! He needs to sit his fuckin ass DOWN.

225.

EMILY

Monday, January 14, 2008 /

Way to go J. :) Thanks for the information, you are really keeping us informed, and up to speed. :)

Peace!

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