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POLITICS: FLORIDA RECAP (GIULIANI & EDWARDS OUT)

Wednesday, January 30, 2008

Sen. John McCain won the Florida Republican primary on Tuesday, securing his front-runner status and ending the presidential hopes of former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani.

“Our victory might not have reached landslide proportions,” McCain said, “but it is sweet nonetheless.”

McCain earned 36% of the vote with Mitt Romney trailing behind with 31% and Giuliani with 15%.

McCain’s victory is a big lift heading into Super Tuesday on Feb. 5, when nearly half of the U.S. will choose presidential candidates for the general election in November.

Giuliani plans to drop out and endorse McCain at an event in California Wednesday. The Republican candidates will debate there in the evening.

The Democrats are also seeing another candidate end his presidential bid. John Edwards will announce his decision to drop out at 1 p.m. in New Orleans, where he announced his candidacy in Dec. 2006.

Edwards has trailed Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton since the beginning.

Clinton won another victory in a virtually uncontested race. Just like with Michigan, the DNC stripped Florida of its delegates as punishment for moving its primary earlier in the year and Democratic candidates pledged to stay away. However, Clinton, who lost to Obama in South Carolina on Saturday, visited the state after polls closed to claim her symbolic victory.

SOURCE: IHT

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116 Comments


1.

Shwalker1214

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

Go Hillary, go!

2.

♥Chelly♥

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

I’m team Obama but congrats to Hillary, if she get the democrat nom. I’m gonna vote for her anyways.

3.

nixtasy

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

wow!!! obama isn’t doing so good! and john edwards has dropped out of the race. hiliary looks really good right now.

4.

Yerp

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

I really dislike Hillary Clinton…..

5.

natural mystique

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

I don’t like McCain. the last thing we need is some old diehard, shell-shocked war mongering vet continuing the catastrophe in Iraq and elsewhere. I see this with McCain.

6.

younghustla

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

SMH @ #s 1 & 2. How can you praise a woman who has insulted African-Americans in order to advance her campaign? The comments Billary made just before the South Carolina polls open that suggested that Obama only won SC because he is black were a slap in the face.

It is one thing to fight Obama on issues (which she never does by the way). It is another to take shots at him and the community that helped you gain power in the first place.

Obama 2008!

7.

natural mystique

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

# 4 I dislike her too. She’s completely phony and power-hungry. It wont surprise me if she does– after all many idiotic Americans fell for the obviously mentally challenged Bush Jr.
Should Hilary win, our last 4 presidents would be Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr, Clinton. That sucks! We need change asap! Obama ‘08!

8.

Tmiller

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

People should do a little research before making comments. Obama has won in Iowa and South Carolina and Clinton has won in New Hampshire and Nevada, however in Nevada Obama got the most delegates. Florida and Michigan were basically a wash since they have no delegate vote there. So basically Obama and Clinton are tied. So to the person who said Obama isn’t doing so well needs a little more information. Thank you concreteloop.

9.

Cortney

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

I’m very hesitant to vote for Hillary. i think Bill is way too involved in her campaign, and I don’t really like the way that she pursued the black vote. Not to mention her unnecessary attacks on Obama.

But if she gets the nomination, I believe she’ll be better than the alternative (aka McCain).

I hear Edwards dropped out!! I feel bad for the guy. He tried really hard to make a difference, but people just weren’t feeling him.

10.

CaramelTai

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

I honestly think that nothing will change if McCain wins the presidency in 2009. He thinks the troops should stay in Iraq as long as possible if I am not mistaken. He will never get my vote!

And Hillary will not win any delegates from Florida, so this win doesnt “count” in regards to the number of delegate votes.

11.

nova

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

I think that Hilary is going. Obama is a well rounded and great person but Hilary has some black votes (especially women), majority of latinos and latinas, and majority whites. Many people (unwittingly) have turned this into a racial race when it should be an issues race. But by subliminally making it a race issue (just check some of the past comments) you as a by product create a division!

Check out msn.com and look at the issues matrix!! It is brilliant, you get to compare the candidates issues easily. Side by side. And msn give it to you in a very easy to understand format.

I have heard some balck women question: “I am black and a women, who will best serve my needs?” My response has always been, stop trying to identify with the candidates but see which ones best serve the country’s immediate and long term needs, because our needs may not be our children’s, and their children’s needs. So we need someone who is great for the country. Not who will uplift a particular demographic but the common needs of all man.

my 2 cents….

12.

BlogXilla Winner of Best New Blog

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

Ummm CL you should have mentioned that the Dems decided not to Campaign in Florida, b/c the DNC penalized them for moving their primary up so they were stripped of their delegates. Also Hillary pulled a cheap move and started to Campaign there AFTER She realized she got whipped in SC. and also for the record Hilary won on pre votes. Of the voters who voted in the last 30 days OBAMA won. So if the DNC decided to hand out the delagates for FL then Obama is going to get a good share of them.

The Clinton’s are playing Dirty and Obama camp said that Hillary will do and say anything to win this election. They are playing dirty and isn’t America over that? I know I’m sick of it since We’ve been dealing with Dirty Politics since Bush came into office.

13.

Onemil02

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

@6

Umm, he did win in SC only because of the black vote. The stats show it. I mean you deny it or just don’t want to admit it but its true and the FL vote just confirmed. He received 70 something percent of the black vote in FL, yet the black voters in FL makes up only 18% of the Population. In SC, he received over 80% of the black vote with over 55% registered black democratic voters. The numbers don’t lie. He is really not getting any of the white vote and especially the Hispanic vote. With John Edwards dropping out, it could help or hurt Hillary or Barack. It’s really getting interesting.

Hillary 2008!

14.

floridaboy8703

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

How dare you post about republicans on this site!
REPUBLICANS HATE BLACK PEOPLE MORE THAN DEMOCRATS DO!

15.

Onemil02

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

@12

NONE of them campaigned in FL, again check your facts.

16.

Kamee'

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

@ #7- DITTO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We need change.

Bush Sr., Clinton, Bush Jr., Clinton– PLEASE LORD DONT LET THIS HAPPEN.

(the thought makes me want to run my nails over a chalk board)

Obama 08

17.

CaramelTai

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

@12

CL did post the the DNC penalized Florida in the recap above…did you completely skip that?

18.

BlogXilla Winner of Best New Blog

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

@ Onemill
Obama had a very diverse amount of votes in SC he got 24% of the white vote, which was 3rd but he beat Billary amoung college educated males. which is big. Hillary got a lot of the uneducated vote. and she only beat him by like 12% in white votes which isn’t that much.

Also w/ the endorsement of the Kennedy’s he’s bound to get way more older white votes so we’ll see what happens on super Tuesday.

OBAMA in 08

I can’t understand how we could not vote of Barack… But we’ll throw on Free TI T-shirts. SMH

19.

READING IS FUNDAMENTAL

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

Umm Blogxilla you should have READ that the Dems decided not to campaign in Florida, b/c the DNC penalized them for moving their primary up so they were stripped of their delegates.

- Reading is Fundamental

20.

1nubianqueen

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

The funny thing is, while we’re concentrating so hard to get a minority in the White House. The politicians will pull another shim-sham! Do you really believe the majority will allow a MINORITY to run this country? NOPE! They’ll let us have fun with voting for who we want and then in the end; THE WHITE REPUBLICAN MAN WILL WIN!!!! IMO….
VOTE OBAMA ANYWAY!!!!!

21.

BlogXilla Winner of Best New Blog

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

My Bad Carmeltai, I saw that now!! oops!! lol You still love me?

22.

BlogXilla Winner of Best New Blog

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

@ 17 HIllary did, she purchased last minutes ads and held a rally after she won… but only flew down there after the polls closed… That was cheap admit it.

23.

CaramelTai

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

@ BlogXilla Winner of Best New Blog

LOL..of course I still love you!

24.

BlogXilla Winner of Best New Blog

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

Per MSNBC:

Last year, the national party stripped Florida of its delegates as punishment for moving its primary ahead of Feb. 5 and the candidates pledged to bypass the state. At stake Tuesday were 185 delegates.

Still, Clinton winked at that pledge, holding two closed fundraisers in recent days and scheduling a rally with supporters after the polls closed in Florida.

____________________
That seems like Campaigning to me…

25.

Latane

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

@ BlogXilla Winner of Best New Blog,

She didn’t campaign there, she went to FL after the votes were in. Obama campaigned there because he aired ads and commercials in Florida after his Nevada loss.

26.

OBAMA4PRES

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

Former Sen. John Edwards is quitting the Democratic race for president, two campaign sources told CNN Wednesday. He reached out to rivals Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama on Tuesday, an aide said, and asked both to make poverty a top issue. Edwards does not plan to endorse either at this time, an official said, but he may do so in the future. developing story
~~CNN source

27.

BlogXilla Winner of Best New Blog

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

@ nubianqueen

I can’t make up your mind for you but… don’t say a white man will win… Joe Scarborough a conservative said that everytime Obama speaks his blackberry goes crazy with email and text messages from other republicans who actually believe in Obama it’s Kennedy-esque…I think he actually has a chance… we’ll see after Super Tuesday but a black president is something I want to see. His stances on the issues are just great and there is something bout him that i feel like he’s not reading a pre written speech filled w/ political darts by some think tank of people who don’t know what you and I want need or feel. Believe.

28.

CaramelTai

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

Thats too bad for John Edwards. I kind of liked him, but would never have voted for him.

29.

jayla06

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

Hillary ALL THE WAY…….She has gotten my vote in the bag (and yes i’m black)!

Obama is just meaningless studdering words when it comes to politics…..Although i like him as a person, i would NEVER vote for him as my president!

@ #14…….ignorance of politics is not an excuse (some people)

30.

BlogXilla Winner of Best New Blog

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

@ carmeltai
I liked him too, i’m a bit disappointed he dropped out though before super Tuesday b/c now we have to see where his votes are going to go. Will they go to Hillary or Obama. It will be interesting to see where this goes.

31.

BlogXilla Winner of Best New Blog

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

@ Jayla
So you’ll vote for a women whose campaign will stop at anything to win, even playing the race card. Remember when we were all wondering if Obama was black enough… now since they through the mud on him now he’s the BLACK candidate. SMCH!!!

32.

Sammie

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

Well I actually liked John Edward as a candidate. We’re so caught up in the whole “white woman vs. black man man” drama that we refuse to see the real issues. Edwards (not Hillary or Obama) was the first to offer a plan for universal health care, the first to call on Congress to pull funding for the war, and he led the charge that lobbyists have too much power in Washington and need to be reigned in. All ideas that our two favorite candidates adopted (Yahoo News).

I know if Obama wins then it will be a huge score for us; however, as the daughter of a former politician, I have seen this scenario play out far too many times. The whites will vote democratic in June so they can elect Obama; They then will vote Republican in November to beat him…This is the game of politics people!

I wonder…people are saying all the time that the Clintons are shady, but if Obama had decided not to run, then wouldn’t the majority of us be pulling for Hillary?

33.

MISSISSIPPI G_DDAMN

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

@ #28

My hope is that Obama will pick Edwards to complete the ticket. That would make great team - youthful + fresh ideas and outlooks. That should appeal to the youth and female vote. Not to say that all females would ordinarily vote for them solely because they’re two young, decent looking cats, but let’s face it, a little marketing counts. Plus it’s a smart move.

There’s not a chance in hell of a Obama/Clinton ticket, which would be interesting, but that harkens back to fiasco of the Mondale/Ferraro ticket in ‘84. I don’t think the country is ready for a one-two punch of a female and a black male on the same ticket. It’ll probably bring up too much of the black man/white woman taboo for some folks LOL!

Not saying that I think it’s WRONG, but I don’t think the time is here, yet.

34.

Addicted to Blogs

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

I dont like hillary she’s ruthless! As much as i loooove obama im not sure if he’s thick-skinned enough to cope with the hateration that will come along if he wins presidency. The only good thing about Hillary is that obsessively ambitious people tend to be good leaders. she kind of reminds me of margaret thatcher

http://prima-donna1.blogspot.com/

35.

Elite

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

Hilary Campaigned in South Florida. She was there before the vote was counted at a few parties pretending to keep it on the down low. I would never vote for Hilary, she is very deceitful and will do and say anything to get in the white house. Hispanics prefer white any day over Blacks because they feel White is better. No matter how you look at it, that’s how they feel. But I am hopeful they will see that it shouldn’t matter about the color of your skin, but the Change that OBAMA bring to this country, because we truly need it.

36.

Onemil02

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

@18

You went around everything I said. Face it, he won on the black vote, and as far as Ted Kennedy he wants him to try and get the Hispanic vote (which is not going to work, cause you are not going to change their). Stats and numbers don’t lie.

37.

NAiti

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

# 9 i could not agree with you more ido think that Bill is too involve into this campaign. It is not his battle and hate the way people keep saying the Clintons did this, the clinton Did that . no thy didnt BIll Clinton did this and that . and people need to realize that ther are two different person and stop supporting Hilary By association. Bill Clinton needs to realize that this is Hilary’s Campaign not his. I hope therre will not be any tag team in the white house. Me i am behind Obama 100 % because he is the one that is making sense to me right now. Ireally do not feel any genuine concern from Hilary just like somebody say i beleive she is power Hungry but i will take her over McCain anyday. OBAMA 2008.

38.

Onemil02

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

Elite where is your proof she did, cause she didn’t

39.

Talkin_Now

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

I couldn’t believe Edwards dropped this morning.

40.

Lady Architect

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

#35 you speak so much truth…none of the news stations wanna talk about what she did in Florida on the low and how she’s using Florida for more publicity cause she’s getting scared that Obama may win…In fact if they weren’t stripped of the delegates Obama would’ve won them, but of course new reporters fail to talk about that.

41.

MISSISSIPPI G_DDAMN

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

And as far as the Clintons, quite frankly, I think that they carry too much baggage. They will spend most of their time fighting off the petty accusations, real or otherwise, of the Republicans should they win another term.

This will only serve as a distraction, and I don’t believe they’ll be as effective as the first go-round. The Republicans relish the thought, actually, that’s how they play best. That is not to say they don’t have something up their sleeve for any Democratic president, for that matter.

They dislike Bill, but they DESPISE Hilary. And there is a lot off unsettled beef in DC that they have to contend with. My thoughts are that their time has passed, and let’s get some new black blood in there.

Anybody have any thoughts on what might make a dream cabinet, should Obama win?

42.

Nichole

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

Barrack will most likely get my vote. It’s not because I’m an African American, either. I think many are voting for Hillary because of the fact that she has eight years of experience in the White House.

I would actually love for Obama to be our next President. We REALLY due need to endure a change.

No Republicans in the White House in 2009. Screw John McCain. After Bush fucked everything up, I really don’t want to see another Republican in office.

43.

oatsuzn

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

I predicted a month ago that Guiliani would drop out. The right wing religious zombies(evangelicals) don’t like him because he’s an immoral cross dressing homo and the vast majority of people just don’t want to elect another tyrant.

44.

CLEARMINDED

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

The Edwards dropout is HUUUUGE!!!!

Domestically speaking, an Obama/Edwards ticket would be powerful, but sometimes people really want that strong foreign policy experience on the ticket as well — and that has not been a focal point for either Obama or Edwards.

I can see Edwards voters going for Obama — if people had wanted to vote for Clinton, they would have done so. In South Carolina, the people who voted for Edwards said that their second choice was Obama (not Clinton). All very interesting — we shall see how it all plays out.

45.

NAiti

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

For ONEMIL02 HIlary did start Caampaigning in FL at the last minute they were even talking about that last night on CNN and the only reason is because she lost SC with such a huge Margin.

46.

oatsuzn

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

And yall need to stop praising Billary for “winning” Florida. Wake up. There was no game played to “win” at all. None of the candidates were allowed to campaign there. Obama focused on states he needed to win so he could be nominated.

Billary is just trying to save face from her trashing in S. Carolina. Had she won there, she would not have been “celebrating” in Florida.

47.

1nubianqueen

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

@ Sammie..Same thing I said.
@ Blogxilla Winner of Best New Blog, Its not that I don’t believe, but I’ve seen this happen. As of the last time we voted for who we wanted as president,AND YOU SEE WHO WON…..

48.

ANGEL_MINDED

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

Clinton ‘08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

49.

Dame

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

Hillary win in Florida doesn’t matter Super Tuesday is coming I am excited. March 4th is when I will cast my vote in Texas.

I wonder who Edwards will endorse?

@6 I agree with you

50.

Anissa

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

I was so excited about being old enough to vote for the first time, but I’m slowly losing my enthusiasm. This race is getting ugly and childish. I’ve seen more maturity in the halls of my high school (which isn’t saying much at all).

51.

J. Lewis(My Wic Check Bounced)

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

J. Lewis ‘08

Britney Spears-Vice President

Montell Williams- Secretary of Defense

52.

NAiti

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

OBAma all the way. i just feel like Hilary is manipulating us. I was undecided before between her and Obama but i can see the light.

53.

JUDAH

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

Giuliani also had to drop out because he’s an Italian. America is not even ready for caucasian presidents of certain lineages, much less a man of another race. Whites have subdivisions within their own race, contrary to popular belief. It only shows when they compete with each other though. They’re able to come together on one accord when it’s time to mobilize on the other races. Giuliani was a good soldier; he followed orders, but he was sloppy in the process and there is no way that he’d be able to stand up in a debate against Hillary Clinton or Obama. The man has way too much dirt on him and there’s no way that the powers that be could feasibly put him into the White House.

54.

rastarr

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

obama is still in it dont be discourged they wont us to lose faith….

55.

MISSISSIPPI G_DDAMN

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

@ JUDAH

Agreed.

@ Clearminded

Their lack of foreign relations experience is duly noted, but I think the key is who Obama will pick as his inner circle of advisors/confidants. And on the strength of his cabinet picks.

56.

ALLDAY

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

I think us black women voters really have to look at this. We really have to make a tuff descion…they say its not about race or the fact that a woman is running is the issue…it shouldent be , but clearly it is. I like Hilary because of experience and what she can do for health care. I like obama because he is a much needed change for our America. But I also feel If I were to choose Hilary, yes she has been in the whitehouse before but never as the president, but i do want some experience in the whitehouse. I think if obama were to be vice president and get some experience, He will for sure become the president next time around..Gaining the trust is the key I am eager for change but change for the better…As of now its still a toss up between the two, and we must not place double standards on hilary that we wouldent do if it were a man running.

57.

MISSISSIPPI G_DDAMN

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

@ 56 ALLDAY

I agree with you. However, my thing with the Hilary is simply the baggage she carries. And yes, experience is the key. But let’s not forget that BILL served as president and not Hilary. Of course Billary ’s (stole that from another poster) combined experience is formidable.

I know some people are tired of the JFK comparisons, but this is the best example I could think of:

As for Obama, non-experience stop didn’t stop JFK from “learning on the job” so to speak, after his disastrous decision to invade Cuba’s Bay of Pigs, and his ineffective performance at his first summit with Khrushchev in Vienna, notwithstanding, Afterwards, he grew more comfortable in handling world affairs, and as far as I know, Bush wasn’t and still isn’t an effective foreign statesman, I assume he has the benefit of his daddy and some former Reagan advisors to help him to navigate.

58.

EnJoi

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

Hillary’s win in Michigan and here in Florida are tainted. Because those states moved there primaries up she was pretty much the only one on the ballot and the only candidate campaigning. That is why the DNC stripped Michigan and Florida of their delegates–the race wasn’t fair. So, while she did win the majority of the votes cast, she won while being virtually uncontested. Celebrating this win is like bragging about winning a fight against a one armed blind midget.

59.

Keeping It Real

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

We as people should look at all sides of this, let’s not forget that John Edwards and Hillary already had a secret meeting.
I won’t be a surprised if John Edwards throws his support behind Hillary; I’m not one who will just vote for Hillary because she is a Democrat.
I really believe that she is dishonest she plays the same dirty old Politics that we are all to familure with, and my thing is when is enough is enough?
Hillary you may have fooled some of the people but you and your husband are just the same, when it is convenient for you to use blacks you do when it isn’t you put your attentions toward Latino. We need one America not a split America and she has just done that. I and so many people are so disgusted by the dirty tactics and at this point that if she wins I will not absolutely not vote for her. Hillary has shown time and time again that rules don’t apply to her; she has no respect for the Democratic Party. I don’t believe it was all about getting people voices heard, it was trying to over shadow Obamas endorsement.
I can say one thing about those Clintons they know how sell, sell, sell and play the Political game.
1. She miss represents herself
2. She plays the old Political game that we have seen time and time again
3. She believes because her name is Clinton that we owe her
4. This isn’t a campaign for her it’s making history two Clintons being President (NOTHING ABOUT WOMAN RIGHTS)

60.

Have Not Thought of a New User Name

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

I knew Giuliani was going to lose what a shame 30million dollars spent and two months and you barely place 3rd. He used 9/11 as a sales point and that rubbed everybody the wrong way. I told my sister as soon as I heard that it was a wrap for him.

Whatever at Hilliary! that when dose not even count. She will never get my vote, I will do a write-in if I have to. I’ve been praying for Obama and God answers prayers.

61.

MISSISSIPPI G_DDAMN

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

@ KEEPING IT REAL

Dead spot the f*ck on! I am disappointed about the Edwards/Clinton convo, though. If this is true, it’s like you said, the Clintons know game and Obama is gonna have to step his up on the tenfold.

62.

Use it or Lose it

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

@ ONEMIL02…I am a Floridian and Hillary did campaign in Florida. See the excerpt from our local news:

“Clinton Tries To Bounce Back In Florida

POSTED: 12:08 pm EST January 28, 2008

SARASOTA, Fla. — Stung by her lopsided loss to Barack Obama in South Carolina, Hillary Rodham Clinton is trying to shift her momentum in Florida — even though its Democratic primary won’t count for much.

Like her rivals, Clinton has agreed to a pledge imposed by national party leaders not to publicly campaign in the state. But after South Carolina, Clinton was skating up against the edge of that agreement and trying to lend some credibility to the outcome Tuesday.

She arrived in Florida on Sunday for two events — both closed fundraisers, in keeping with the pledge not to campaign. She clearly winked at that pledge with her arrival, joking about the warm weather and positioning herself so photographers had a palm tree for a backdrop.

“It is absolutely glorious,” said Clinton. “It is a perfect day here in Florida.”

Earlier, Clinton said there’s intense interest in the campaign in Florida, where early voting is heavy.”

Please note she arrived in Florida 2 days before the primary. No matter how you swing it, that’s campaigning and IMO that is being deceitful.

Here is the link to the complete article: http://www.wftv.com/politics/15154647/detail.html

-It is what it is

63.

MISSISSIPPI G_DDAMN

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

Guiliani had nothing to contribute but his so-called efforts as “New York’s Saviour”. And anytime he had to speech to give, nothing but 9/11 spewed from his mouth.

EVERY TIME HE SPOKE PUBLICLY!!!

All together now, great tragedy aside, him being portrayed as hero on that day was a FLUKE.

Those who live in NYC know the real deal.

64.

EnJoi

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

I don’t think Obama should pick Edwards as his running mate. If we learned nothing from Kerry/Edwards in 04, is that former competitors don’t make good tickets. Its hard to convince voters that you’re the two people who can work together for the good of the country, when you’ve spent 2 plus years trying to convince the world that the nation will go to hell if we elect the same person you are now calling a running mate. No, I think John Edwards should go back to the Senate and help the Dems keep control congress.

Obama needs to look for a seasoned and respected Democratic governor or congressmen, whose seat would mostly be filled by another democrat. Just as Bush picked Cheney, Obama needs someone with experience–however someone less “EVVVILLL” than Cheney. If Obame picks any of his former competitors, I think he should pick Gov. Richardson. His campaign was never negative or combative towards Obama, but he has the experience that Obama needs behind him.

65.

MISSISSIPPI G_DDAMN

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

Just caught this from The Huffington Post:

Obama reaches out to Edwards:

Obama’s statement: Barack Obama offered this statement on John Edwards’ withdrawal from the presidential race:

“John Edwards has spent a lifetime fighting to give voice to the voiceless and hope to the struggling, even when it wasn’t popular to do or covered in the news. At a time when our politics is too focused on who’s up and who’s down, he made a nation focus again on who matters - the New Orleans child without a home, the West Virginia miner without a job, the families who live in that other America that is not seen or heard or talked about by our leaders in Washington. John and Elizabeth Edwards have always believed deeply that we can change this - that two Americans can become one, and that our country can rally around this common purpose. So while his campaign may end today, the cause of their lives endures for all of us who still believe that we can achieve that dream of one America.”

Obama: “I would love Edwards’ support.” From ABC:

In an exclusive interview with ABC News, Sen. Barack Obama said that he has let former Sen. John Edwards know that he would like his endorsement should Edwards decide to drop out of the race. While Obama did not admit to rumors of back-door-dealings for delegate sharing, he said that he would strongly welcome a nod from Edwards.

“There is no doubt that I would love John’s support, but I also respect the fact that he is in this contest. He is actively seeking the nomination, and he is a formidable candidate,” Obama told “Nightline” co-anchor Terry Moran.

Clinton’s Statement: Hillary Clinton reacted during an interview with a local Alabama news station:

Well Senator Edwards is a friend of mine, he was a colleague in the senate and I have the highest regard for him, and I’m really admiring of what he has done to make sure that poverty was on the agenda here in America. He encouraged all of us in his passion and advocacy and I hope he will continue that work because it is really important that we stay focused on what we’re going to do to help people.

66.

Div

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

If a woman can’t satisfy and keep check of her husband, do I really want her as president of my country? [Mya] OH HEEEELLLLL NO! [/Mya]

67.

Chiara

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

Sorry I’m not from the US and I don’t get this part :
“the DNC stripped Florida of its delegates as punishment for moving its primary earlier in the year and Democratic candidates pledged to stay away.”

68.

DCTRINIGYAL

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

HILLARY 4 08

69.

Use it or Lose it

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

Florida is heavily integrated with a lot of Latin Americans and many of them are republican. President Bush did very well in Florida and his brother was elected Governor. Latin Americans had a big impact in that.

I work and interact with all types of people. In this primary election the Hispanic community was voting for Hillary, so it was expected for her to win Florida.

Latin Americans are people whom believe in Unity. Florida (Republicans) has realized this and eagerly accommodates the needs of the Latin American community.

I said that to say this, don’t count Obama out just because Hillary won Florida.

- It is what it is

70.

CLEARMINDED

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

@ 55 (Mississippi)

Oh, I definitely agree with you that the adivsers and cabinet are what make for either a good or a bad foreign policy. I trust Obama’s intellect and decision-making ability to surround himself with the right people. I was just thinking of this from the way his ticket would LOOK to voters if, for instance, Obama were to go up on McCain — IF those were the nominees.

71.

ANGEL_MINDED

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

Hilary Clinton ‘08

The Clinton Adiminstration is taking over (again) in ‘08!

72.

CaramelTai

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

@ Chiara

That means that Florida broke the DNC (Democratic National Committee’s) rules in regards to when their primary was supposed to take place. Because they moved their primary to an earlier date in the year, they have been punished by the DNC by stripping Florida of its delegate count. So basically, Hillary didn’t gain anything by “winning” the Florida primary. She won’t get any delegates from it. The same thing happened in Michigan if I am not mistaken. Hillary ran in the race as well even though the state of Michigan broke the rule.

73.

CLEARMINDED

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

@56 — I still don’t see how Hillary being First Lady counts as “experience.” But that’s just me.

74.

okyes

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

it doesnt matter to me who wins now anyway my candidate (fred thompson) already dropped out.

75.

EnJoi

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

#67. Chiara

In the US the primaries allow the voters to vote for delegates that are associated with a certain candidate. At the party conventions these delegates cast their votes on behalf of the voters in their respective constituencies. A lot of media and political attention is put on the states with early primaries. Therefore, Florida (along with Michigan) decided to move up their primaries without the approval of the governing body, the Democratic National Convention (DNC). Therefore, as punishment Florida and Michigan will not have delegate representation at the Convention in August. It is at this convention when delegates are tallied and the nomination is determined.

76.

Blaquechik

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

Many people in Florida didn’t vote in the primary some were told that yesterday’s voting was for republicans only and some were still lead to believe the date for voting was Feb. 5, it seems that we can’t get it together!

77.

Shawn08

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

Obama 08! I have lost total respect for the Clintons… They will never get my VOTE…

78.

bill

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

Barack Obama for President
Mayor Micheal Bloomberg (NYC) for Vice President
* Mayor Bloomberg met with Senator Obama a few weeks ago, and he admires his views….

Now, Wouldn’t THAT be a intersting Scenario !!!

79.

bill

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

…That said, I hope that Senator John Edwards throws his support to Barack Obama, now that Edwards has withdrawn from the race…..

80.

brian walker

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

I don’t like Hilary and I hope she loses to senator Obama…. I will vote 4 OBAMA… he can’t be denied he will be a better president than Hilary…

81.

ALLDAY

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

@clearminded…What I ment by experience is that she has been in the whitehouse for 8yrs and lets face it we knew who was really running it..Bill really took the woman on my side approach instead of behind.. it was all apart of her plan i think to always run for the presendicy. This is a very intelligent woman who has to play the game of politics to get ahead as is everyone else is doing this term…it gets off the important issues at hand but everyone is slinging mudd.
One of the things that matters most to me is health care and that lack there of in america…How cencus is so low in hospitals here locally, but i know there are alot of sick people that cant get good health care because that cant afford it, in 93 she intiated alot of health care programs for low income children. Flawd she is, as is everyone, But again i want a mixture of experience and change…she can provide both. As for obama I still like him as well…But again know one is talkin specifics about what they will do to make a turn around in our country….preachin aside…what will you really do for me Hillary in Obama…A young black woman who is hungry for change in american (and is doing my part)..
..lets get specific….

82.

Reecje

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

Onemil02- You sound really ignorant.

First of all, Obama won in South Carolina because he obtained 55% of the vote, not because he is Black. Yes he received 80% of the Black vote, but he could’ve still lost with 100% of the Black vote…AND he earned those votes over the past several months. He was initially behind Hillary several months ago, so that alone shows that votes weren’t just handed to him on a silver platter.

He won in Iowa which is predominately white and he came in a very close second in both New Hampshire and Nevada which also have a small Black voting population. So CHECK YOUR FACTS.

It’s a shame when White folks vote for Obama it means something, but when Blacks vote for him it is so easily dismissed…even by our own ignorant people.

Also, about Florida, what people fail to realize is that Hillary “won” the vote because she campaigned (regardless of whether she wants to call it that or not that is what she did) by ADDRESSING FLORIDA voters and telling them that she was going to try and make sure their votes counted.

It is very likely that Obama supporters stayed home instead of wasting their time on a vote that didn’t count. The fact that she gained 50% of the vote after actively and very publicly seeking their support in the past few days and Obama did not make the same plea yet received 33% shows something. Just like the fact that she only received 55% of the vote in Michigan against “Uncommitted” says something. Before you guys go around repeating Clinton party lines…do some critical thinking.

83.

MISSISSIPPI G_DDAMN

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

@ ALLDAY

Although you didn’t address me directly, I admire the fact that you’re taking a stand and defending it.

Hell, I’m glad we all have a cool spot where we can do the same. ESPECIALLY in this forum.

84.

V-GIRL

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

Concreteloop- I just wanted to say that it is a delight to come on your site and not see all of this negative ghetto mentallity like one of the other sites (B*$$!P)…… Everyone is entiled to their opinion but some of the language that they allow I am just appaled. Any way people stop BASHING Hillary if you dont want to vote for her then dont. But I “loved” the way that I was living when the clintons were in office and I am going to vote for her again. Because she is a woman,mother, and shares a lot of the same ideas and visions that I have. Go Hillary 08

85.

WillPwr

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

I’m still torn between Hillary & Barack.
However, as long as a Democrat takes office I’ll be smiling.

86.

Latane

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

Some issues:

1 — That we are not allowed to say that the issue of race is huge in this campaign, but over 50% of South Carolina’s population is Black, 80% of the Blacks in South Carolina voted for Obama, and it’s the state where he has seen his largest support so far. A COINCIDENCE?

2 — That Michelle Obama can address a church congregation following her husband’s victory in Iowa and say gleefully, “Ain’t no Black people in Iowa!” but she isn’t faulted for bringing race into the campaign. Bill Clinton, however, can’t even begin a word the letter R without being chided.

3 — That the cult of personality around Obama is so fierce, his supporters seem akin to those who were possessed with a mad fervor for George W. Bush in 2004. (YES, THEY DO.)

4 — That Obama himself can diss and throw potshots at Clinton for MONTHS and has continued to do so even in his victory speeches, but he is lauded for running a dignified campaign. When Clinton merely fights back on agenda- and issues-related matters, she is branded shrill and vindictive and her defenses are deemed part of the “Clinton machine’s” dirty campaign tactics. I have never seen or heard her mock her rivals, yet this is EXACTLY what Obama does and it is regarded as “humor”.

5 — That Obama can say something as racially stereotypical as needing to see how Bill Clinton dances to determine whether he’s a “brother” — and during a formal DEBATE, no less! — and it doesn’t cause a ripple. Just imagine the reverse!

6 — That America is so desperate to find a hero, our citizens and our media are treating Obama like he’s the second coming.

7 — That once again, a qualified, experienced woman of superior achievement and intelligence is not only being passed over in favor of the slick man — please, this is America Sexism 101 — but she is in essence being FAULTED for wanting to do so.

8 — That prior to the Iowa caucuses, Obama was said to be “not Black enough” for Black Americans. After his win there, he was suddenly the heir to MLK in some people’s eyes.

9 — Obama’s thinly disguised arrogance.

10– That Obama’s supporters are so immature in their behavior and comments. Can they even discuss ISSUES or is it all just about “inspiration” for them?

11 — That people would actually believe, with the hot mess this country is in, we need an inspirational speaker as opposed to a savvy and seasoned politician in the Oval Office come January 20, 2009.

12 — Once again, THE MEDIA. Enough said.

87.

Leonna

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

Kinda messed up that two states where Hillary won in a major way earned her no delegates because they moved up their primaries. In the end, it’s all about those delegates.

Now what’s going to make a difference at this point is who John Edwards will endorse, because whoever gets his endorsement, gets his delegates. I don’t even want to make a prediction on who he will choose.

As for Giuliani, I actually thought he would far much better than he did, but alas…

88.

ALLDAY

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

@MISSISSIPPI G_DDAMN thanks..It is nice to have a forum were we can express ourselves and our views….lol too bad the politicians cant be as civial…And the reality is yes the latin vote is important and needed, But us as black voters…have the power for change….We need to get the drive we had in the 60’s its time to fight for change…with our minds…we are richer smarter and wiser as a people we need to constructively utilize it for change…

89.

MOTTZ

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

Mii whole family is Obama supporters. I think Bill should be runnin’ for Prez. cuz ya Hillary ain’t speakin UP nuffin. the Democrats would not want a women Prez anyway.
GO OBAMA!!!!!!

90.

oatsuzn

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

Bill I live in NY and I don’t have anything malicious to say about Bloomberg like I have to say about Guiliani but one thing that pissed me off was his handling of the transit strike. We have the biggest mass transit system in the world and he couldn’t get those workers to stay on the job. He had no influence. At least Guiliani -as bad as he was- was able to divert a transit strike.

91.

Talkin_Now

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

# 56 I see what you’re saying but I dont’ agree. Look where “experience has gotten us. We need a fresh look at our nation.

92.

WAKE UP!!! EVERYONE!!!!!

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

FYI THE WHITEHOUSE IS THE OLD BOYS CLUB THE DEM

93.

ThinkAboutIt

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

The political game is fierce…
Guiliani stayed in the game long enough to pull votes from Romney and then serve up his followers to McCain. Edwards did the same for Hillary.

It’s going to be pretty tough for Obama, but hard ain’t impossible.

94.

BlueDiva

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

As a New Yorker..I am sooooooooo damn happy Guiliani and his racist, NYPD happy ass is out! On the other hand, I am very disappointed about John Edwards, I really was rooting for him. If everybody would stop jumping on the Barack and Clinton bandwagon, they would see that Edwards had really good ideas pertaining to health care and education (my field). But oh well, I guess will either be forced to vote for my gender or race…ill sleep on that one.

95.

Dawn P

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

@LATANE #86
Thank you, thank you, thank you! You said that better than I could have said it myself. I agree 100%! People need to wake up and see that Obama is getting a pass. Sexism is real. Hillary is an extremely intelligent woman and she’s a fighter. I think that’s what we need, not another “feel good” president. And I’m tired of having to defend myself b/c I’m black and I’m not an Obama supporter. I just wish people would make informed decisions and not be swayed by “the media.” His arrogance bothers me and his bumbling at the SC debate further showcasing that he is all talk, no substance. People can say what they want about Hillary, but she knows her stuff. And as far as “dirty politics”…that is the name of the game and Obama ain’t no saint either. Obama is a media darling NOW, but if he gets the nomination, come November, how quickly things will change! At least I know Hillary can withhstand the mudslinging that the Republicans will throw her way. Yet another example how a qualified woman is deemed as “not capable” in favor of a less qualified man.

96.

none

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

A QUESTION FOR BLACK VOTERS: ARE YOU A TOM?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CITlY70zTY

97.

Obama 08

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

Obama has the most delegates, therefore he is in the lead. Hillary had NO victory in FL. All of the democratic candidates SIGNED an aggreement not to campaign or accept delegates from Michigan or Florida. When Hillary found our she was in the lead in FL, not only did she go to the state to have a “victory” speach, but now she is try to BREAK THE AGGREEMENT all the candidates made at th beginning of the race and is trying to get the FL delegates seated. She’s desperate to win and will use dirty tactics (i.e. her voter suppression in Nevada), to do so. If she can’t even keep her word in an election, how do you expect her to be an honest president? I can’t for the life of me figure our how anyone of good conscience can vote for this woman!!!

98.

cookie

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

I just read some of the comments and all I have to say is the following:

1. Please give the sexism argument a REST. You can not convince me that well connected white woman is getting discriminated against more than a black man who’s virtualy and outsider to the entire establishment. Hillary Clinton is only a candidate because HER HUSBAND WAS PRESIDENT!! If he were not president and if Guiliani hadn’t got prostate cancer and dropped out the NY senate race, she would have never been elected to the senate and she would not even be a nominee today. As a woman, I have much more respect for a woman who actually earns something on her own MERIT. Not riding her husbands coatails. Barack Obama doesn’t come from politcally connected marraige or family. All of his success he earned the hard way and his support is genuine and not based on brand name identification like Hillary.

2. Experience!! People who run the “hillary has experience” line prove to me that they know little about their candidate and are just regurgitating what they hear on the news and in slogans. Joel Biden HAS EXPERIENCE. Governer Richards HAS EXPERIENCE. Hillary Clinton is is one of the least experience candidates in the race. She only has 2 more years in the Senate than Obama and unlike Obama that’s her FIRST public office. Obama has 8 years as a state senator in the Illinois state Leigslature, in addition to his experience as a senator in the US Senate, he’s a Civil Rights lawyer, Constiutional Law Proffessor and a grassroots community organizer. Hillary’s claim to fame is being married to the ex president. Sorry that does’nt count for me, because she was not responsible for being accountable to anybody other than herself and the one thing she tried to do (health care), she failed at. Barack actually delivered healthcare to Illinois.

3. Specifics!! For all of you people who are asking for specifics I challenge to you to actually read about these candidates plans. Actually use some discernment and wade past the media hype. You will see that not only is Obama’s platform the best, but it’s also the most innovative.

If Hillary gets elected, I don’t want to hear any complaing from black folks. I can garuntee you we will still be stuck in Iraq, we will have a healthcare plan that has not support in congress and by the end of year 1 I can garuntee you there will be a scandal. You’ll just wait. And do ever expect your oppurtunity for a black president ot come by again. There’s a pecking order in this country, Latino’s are up next!

99.

dats_da_truth

Thursday, January 31, 2008 /

@ cookie…well said.

These Negroes believe the “white man” is their savior…

I could never get pass congressional black caucus members, who claimed that Bill was the “first black President.” What a fucking insult. Why would you want to compare a black man to a president who lied under oath about receiving fellatio in the oval office? Many of you Negroes are delusional. As far as I can remember, white occupation has never favored any Negro.

In every nation where Negroes are under white occupation, they have been raped and pillaged. Even in the USA, under this “democratic institution,” the Negro is being raped and pillaged. Why do you still have your hands out, expecting white America to pander to your fucking needs?

After 200 hundred years, the Negro’s condition in the US has remained relatively unchanged or has even digressed. What makes you think Hillary or any politician will improve the Negro condition in the US? The fact remains the American Negro is not a big enough, viable group to warrant any serious political attention. Many consider the Negro as “useless eaters” and would stop at nothing to eradicate you for the electoral process.

100.

Natalia

Thursday, January 31, 2008 /

Bill Clinton’s experience DOES NOT EQUAL Hillary Clinton’s experience. Just because you have been around someone who has held a position- it doesn’t mean that you have their experience or are qualified to do their job.

For example, if my father was a surgeon and I’d been around the medical profession my whole life…does that make me qualified to operate on one of his patients? Ummm…NO. The same goes for the presidency. The difference is that the President has the lives of MANY people at stake. Sorry, I’m not entrusting my life to Hillary. I have been a democrat for years, but if she wins the Dem nomination, I may have to vote republican for the first time EVER. (I REALLY hate to say that!)

I have been completely turned off by the arrogance of the Clinton camp. Bill has attacked Barack on the lowest levels. This shows how class-less he really is. It is clear that the Clintons are playing “Good cop, bad cop”. Bill gets to say all of the foul things that Hillary can’t say, and then Hillary gets to play the dumb role after its all said and done. I can’t believe I actually defended Bill’s actions when he was in office. I guess everything that is done in the darkness definitely comes to the light. Thanks for showing us who you really are Bill and Hillary!!

Bill also made a statement that if Hillary was elected it would be like getting a two for one deal. So what are you saying Bill? We can interpret that in a few ways:
1.) You don’t trust Hillary’s judgement or abilities to carry the Presidency on her own.
2.) You believe that because she is a woman she will require the “wisdom” of her man.
3.) This is a ploy for a “third” term for you in the Oval Office (Constituionally you are only allowed to serve 2 terms)
4.) You are bored with your current life and wish to have one more joy ride at our expense.
Either way it goes…I’m not buying it! Sell your snake BS somewhere else!

101.

Natalia

Thursday, January 31, 2008 /

Also, I hear many people discussing gender or race. Question: Since this is an “Urban” (AKA black) forum that is frequented by many black women…What issues effect you on the most?
1.) Your race
2.) Your gender

As a black woman, I will definitely say my race. Before anyone even goes “there” with my gender, they acknowledge that I am black. It is a pressing and prevalent issue for those of us who are in corporate America. Unfortunately, White America feels that they can get a double credit for us by playing on two things that are at the core of who we are. Don’t be deceived- that is the purpose for this whole thing. Political analysts, speech writers and advisors are excellent masters of human psychology. They know how to divide and conquer. So if you are trying to vote based on who you identify with, please do not believe that your gender makes you exempt from your race. Yes, there is a common bond between women, but trust me we are all just someone’s “black friend” at the end of the day. That is all that I’ve got for today…I’m done.

102.

NoMoSoul

Thursday, January 31, 2008 /

I agree with Latane. Hillary Clinton is not as evil as people are making her out to be. Its ridiculous the way you act as if she’s worst than Bush. Do you really think Hillary Clinton, the wife of Bill Clinton, a President that IMPROVED The economy and gave us almost a golden age, Would WORSEN the nation than where it already is? Do you really feel that would be the intentions of this ambitious woman?

Can Hillary Clinton do worse than Bush? Hillary Clinton is SMART, people. Its time America had a woman’s touch and a little less testosterone. Hillary Clinton is a woman of MANY accomplishments. She’s super intelligent, punctual, and of great precision. She’s one of those chics that you want to fall in love with, or run away in fear from. They’re a rarity. Thats how amazing she is.

She has a clear plan. She’s so FOCUSED. I agree that she is probably too smart for her own good and can be manipulative. Ive theorized that she put this whole plan of being president together many years ago. She planned it out step by step. She’s highly clever

I think Barack Obama would be a good President. Im not sure if he does have a lot of substance b/c all I hear is CHANGE and HOPE and INSPIRATION, which can only get you so far. But when i look at Michelle Obama and his two children, I know Barack can’t be an

The Media has indeed given this guy a free pass. Which is what Bill Clinton meant when he said “fairy tale.” Although Bill was still wrong for that Jesse Jackson comment he made recently.

The media treats Obama like he’s the second coming. JFK reincarnated. But they arent being hard on him. When he attacks Hillary clinton FIRST, the media instead turns around and portrays Hillary’s comeback as what instigated the argument. Its like are U SERIOUS? I wonder if Obama will be able to handle what the Reps and the media throw at him if he wins the nomination. They’re giving him too free of a pass.

But Hillary is probably under the influence of the Powers That Be, although Im not sure if Money is a major concern for her. Maybe it is for Bill CLinton, but for her I think she’s more concerned about OPPORTUNITY. The woman is HIGHLY Ambitious and would probably be a great President. Her experience in the white House does come from Bill b/c he’s her husband. She’s his closest Advisor and I know that everyone knows she’d do a good job as President. She may not have OFFICIAL experience, but she knows what she’s doing. She’s learned from the best and has adopted it as her own.

I dont know how well she’d do against McCain though. McCain is the most liberal Republican. He puts the people b4 his party unlike Romneys dumb-rich ass. But Obama vs McCain would be interesting.

I didnt really like Edwards b/c i heard of his personal use of campaign money, but he did have good ideas that were overlooked by the American people. I just dont think he should be a running mate for Obama or Hillary. Obama and Hillary need to work together. Hillary can give Obama more substance while Obama can break down Hillary’s walls and her vision in trade for a vision of better change. These two together is what America really needs b/c they both have great ideas.

Now all we need to do is regulate the CIA, Federal Reserve Bank, and the World Bank. Or at least eradicate those programs that are hurting the economy.

Like Barack said, “No ones hands are clean.”

103.

COME ON!!

Thursday, January 31, 2008 /

Those delegates in MI & FL don’t count. Because Obama is doing so well she went down to Florida rather than thanking the people in SC for helping her with her campaign, she just left and flew to TN. She told the newspaper in Iowa that MI & FL didn’t matter which Edwards and Obama including herself decided they wouldn’t campaign there. But we’re talking about Delegates. She got more votes but she has to divide some of those delegates with Obama and Edwards. She’s playing dirty politics. She’s a snake.

104.

COME ON!!

Thursday, January 31, 2008 /

You Hillary lovers that on this blog. Please remember that the Republican wants Billary as the Democratic nominee becasue they know that even though they dislike McCain b/c he too liberal they know that the Conservative Democratics, Independents and Republican who would probably vote for Obama will come in droves to elect McCain.

As I type believe me they have calculated so much stuff as far as Bill Clinton cheating on Hillary for the past few years that they can’t wait. So basically no one wins if McCain is in the White House and nothing will ever change.

105.

cookie

Thursday, January 31, 2008 /

Black people who are still wrapped up in this Clinton fanticy are crazy. After all of the racist remarks the Clinton’s have made to win this race, some black folks are STILL are voting for these fools. All I can say is BRAINWASH!

I challenge you to actually study the Clinton’s not just vote for them becase they’re popular. If you actually did some research you would know that blacks did not do well under the Clinton presidency and even though blacks believed they we doing better, the NUMBERS proved they actually weren’t. Blacks were so caught up in this man’s personality and not his policy, just like they are now, and thus this MYTH that black people did better under the Clinton administration has lived on!

Let me spell it out to you. The Clinton’s are NO freind to black people. Do some research and stop voting because of popularity!!

If you did some reasearch you’d know that blacks of all income levels SIGNIFIGANTLY lagged behind there white counterparts during the Clinton years and blacks with the least income actually experienced a signifigant economic DECLINE during his presidency. Well respected mainstream economists have studied this over and over, because they can’t figure out why black people thought they were doing so well under Bill Clinton, when the NUMBERS show they were not. I know why, it’s because we sold our loyalty for a little saxaphone playing and pandering.

Bill Clinton, who is admittingly responsible for moving the democratic party to the RIGHT, made two key moves to prove he was a moderate - increase the Prison population and institue welfare reform (both which have proven to be a failures if you do the research).

And as the Clinton’s have shown time and time again, they will sell black folks up the river to get what they want. Anyone remember Lani Guinier???

Not to mention the terrosim problems we have now did not start with Pres. Bush. Pres. Clinton, missed opporutunities to address Al Queda in afghanastan before Bush got into office. He dropped the ball on our national security, before it caught up with us. And then his wife continued his screwed up legacy by sending our troops to Iraq, which has only made our national security situation even worse.

You have oppourtunity to continue a dynasty in America that has already proven to NOT BE YOUR FRIEND, or you can vote to actually make a change in this country and vote for someone who’s progressive, qualified and has the BEST PLAN of all the candidates. Someone from the outside, who actually earned his candidacy and is fiercly intelligent, or shall I say brillant as his former Harvard law proffessers refer to him as. Someone who actually worked his way to the top from a single parent home with no politcal connections in sight.

For the life of me I can’t understand why black people are lining up to sell this qualified black man up to the river in order to vote for the Clinton’s who have proven to be shady. Understand that if Mc Cain gets the nomination Hillary will not win, because she is polarizing figure and unlike some of you people, a lot of folks in this country HATE the clinton’s.

106.

Kamee'

Thursday, January 31, 2008 /

@ 105- APPLAUD!

Knowledge IS power!

107.

NYLADY

Thursday, January 31, 2008 /

Cookie, your remarks are right on point.

We seem to be so caught up with the Clintons that we can’t see the truth. In the last couple of weeks I’ve reached the point where I can say that I truly dislike the Clintons and will never vote for Hillary if she is the nominee in November. I’ll have to find some alternative.
I wish people will stop with the healthplan– it will not pass through Congress. The Clintons have so many enemies in Washington that all of her bills will be bottle-necked and nothing will be accomplish.

I love Obama– and please do not shun the inspiration this man seems to give many of us. In these dire times, we need someone who can work with all- democrats, independents, republicans, liberals and conservatives and get things done.

I also liked Edwards– it’ll be nice to see him endorse Obama. But their base is quite different. Clinton and Edwards base are rural, working class and less educated. Whereas, Obama has more of the upper to upper-middle class, college educated, younger voters as his base.

As for Giuliani- being Italian was not his problem. He was an arrogant, misguided, disgusting, souless leader that tried to use 9/11 to get into office. He was also a terrible mayor and did nothing but divide our city. I’m from NYC and know this all first hand.

Last word–don’t forget to watch the debates tonight. It’s supposedly the hottest ticket in LA at this time. They are getting more requests than the Oscars.

108.

@#104

Thursday, January 31, 2008 /

You are so right. They want Hillary so badly, they can’t stand the Clintons and this goes way back when hemmed him up years ago.
I have friends mostly whie males who are republicans and some independent and they do not want Hillary in the white house and they say if Obama does not get the nod they will not see a woman in the white house and it will not be Hillary Clinton. They hope Obama does not take the vice president nod if she offers it if he doesn’t get it, t hey want to whip her they said no way as men are we going to let some woman beat us in the bid for the white house as leader of this country and they don’t like that fact that she is on the tube hustling the woman vote.
They said Obama can pull out if she gets and run agin in in 2012, he is young enough if these siily woman vote for Hillary, they said she won’t have a chance up against Mcclain.
Where I live here in Alabama the white woman are mad at her because she is sending Bill here but wants their vote but she can’t come here like the other candidates, they are all here in the office talking about her and are upset, they feel like she is using them like she left SC when she saw she was not geting the black vote. All people are is votes to her and her true colors are coming out.Theysaid oh, they are not good enough for her to come here like the other candidates if only for one day.
They are right Billary does not care about anyone but Billary she wants towin for the sake of winning and if you vote for you can vote for Mcclain because her beliefs are the same as his.
They want Hillary because the repubs have said moret than once they would have a problem with Obama…they are gaoing to dig up Bill’s dirt because he is out here campaigning fo rher. Its just a ploy to get him in th white house and you have to be blind cripple and crazy to think the repubs or most of America are going to give the Clintons this pass.
So you women go ahead and give Hillary the nod , we will be rid of the clintons once and for all and I am going to help th erepubs out!!!!! Trust me if Obama does not get it.

109.

SO TRUE!!!!!!

Thursday, January 31, 2008 /

ALL YOU WOMEN LIBBERS , CLOSET LESBIANS AND SCORNED WOMAN THAT ARE VOTING FOR HILLARY PLEASE DON’T THINK THE MEN IN THIS COUNTRY ARE GOING TO GIVE HER THE PASS AS THE LEADER OF THIS COUNTRY, THEY ON THE TV WITH HER PEOPLE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT THE WOMENS VOTE…AND ANOTHER THING ALOT OF HAPPILY MARRIED WOMEN DON’T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT BILL OR HILLARY.
THE DEMS OBAMA IS YOU BEST BET IF YOU WANT THE REPUBS OUT . BOTTOM LINE AND THE MAN IS CAPABLE THERE IS NOTHING HE CAN’T DO THAT BILLARY CAN’T DO AND HE CAN DO IT WELL WITHOUT A LOT OF BAGGAGE AND OWING A LOT OF FOLKS FAVOR AND HE HAS HAD TO WORK FOR WHAT HE HAS AND I BELIEVE IS WILL REALLY BE DOWN FOR THE PEOPLE AND HIS MOTIVES ARE PURE HE IS DOING THIS OUT OF LOVE FOR THIS COUNTRY AND APPRECIATES EVERY VOTES AND MY WIFE IS OFFENDED THAT HILLARY WOULD SINGLE HER OUT SIMPLY BECAUSE SHE IS A WOMAN FO RHER VOTE.
BUT YOU SAY DON’T VOTE FOR OBAMA BECAUSE HE IS BLACK, WEL HILLARY SAYS YOU SHOULD VOTE FOR HER BECAUSE YOU ARE WOMAN?????
I AM A PROFESSIONAL WHITE MALE AND THIS COUNTRY IS NOT YET READY FOR A WOMAN TO LEAD.
BILLARY IS A SHREWD AND CALCULATTING BUSINESS WOMAN SHE STAYED WITH BILL FOR POLITCAL REASONS ANY FOOL CAN SEE THAT SHE IS DRIVEN BY HER NEED TO CONTROL AND I DO NOT THINK THAT IS THE KIND OF DRIVE THIS COUNTRY NEEDS TO LEAD IT, WE NEED SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO SERVE THE PEOPLE AND NOT THEMSELVES.
OBAMA IS THE BEST MAN FOR THE JOB FOR ALL AMERICAN, BLACK, WHITE HISPANICS, MALE AND FEMALE, YOUNG AND ALL.
WE STILL NEED TO COME TOGETHER RACIALLY WE DO NOT NEED A LEADER WHO WANTS TO START A GENDER WAR.
MY WHITE FAMILY IS ALL VOTING OBAMA 2008, IF HE DOESN’T GET THE NOD WITH THE HELP OF BLACK AMERICA (YOU CAN DO THIS), THEN WE WILL GO WITH MCCAIN AGAINST BILLARY..NO LIE AND I HAVE FRIENDS WHO ARE DOING THE SAME.

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ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!

Thursday, January 31, 2008 /

I AM SO TIRED OF THIS WORSHIP OF THE CLINTONS LIKE THEY ARE SOME GODS AND THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES WITH ANY SENSE OR ABILITY TO LEAD THIS COUNTRY.
YES, I AM AWARE OF T HEIR EXPERIENCE AND THERE KIND OF EXPERIENCE THIS COUNTRY HAS HAD ENOUGH OF.
THE CLINTONS ARE CORRUPT AND I DO NOT TRUST EITHER ONE OF THEM.
I WILL NEVER SUBMIT TO THEM AGAIN AS MY PRESIDENT..THEY LOST MY RESPECT A LONG TIME AGO.

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TO BILL AND HILLARY!!!!!!

Thursday, January 31, 2008 /

TO ANANIAS AND SAPPHIRA BE GONE IN THE NAME OF JESUS.
(THIS IS THE NAME OF A HUSBAND AND WIFE IN THE NEW TESTAMENT THAT CONSPIRED TOGETHER OVER A PIECE OF LAND THEY SOLD, THEY BOTH LIED AND BOTH FELL DEAD)…..THE CLINTONS THE SAME SPIRIT PLOTTING AGAINST US TO GET BACK INTO THE WHITEEHOUSE!!!!!! ALWAYS A STRATEGY THAT’S ALL YOU HEAR ON THE NEWS ABOUT THEM IS HOW THEY HAVE BEEN STRATEGIZING FOR TEN YEARS TO GET BACK INTO THE WHITE HOUSE.
EVERYTHINGS A STRATEGY…..PLOTTING AND SCHEMING!!!!! I WISH I WAS THE FLY ON THE WALL IN THEIR HOMES AND OFFICES.
I GUSRANTEE YOU IF SOMEONE WAS TO BUG THEM AND WE HEARD WHAT THEY WERE PLANNING ONCE THEY GOT IN THE WHITE HOUS NO ONE WOULD VOTE FOR SLICK WILLIE AND HIS WIFE AGAIN.

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COME ON WITH IT NOW

Thursday, January 31, 2008 /

SLICK WILLY I LIKE THAT AND THAT’S ABOUT THE SIZE OF IT …BILLWOULD MAKE A GOOD PIMP!!!!
HILLARY IS RIDING OR DIE!!!!

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NoMoSoul

Thursday, January 31, 2008 /

You guys sound silly. Its like everything is a conspiracy when it comes to Hillary and Bill. I like Obama and Hillary both. I dont give a flyin fuck if you think im brainwashed. I know about Hillary’s so called past. And yes I’ve done my damn research. The best word to describe Hillary is Ambitious. And yeah, its obvious she stayed with Bill for political reasons. She’s had this goal of being President for quite some time. She’s very clever and everyone move is calculated. Ive always been aware of Hillary and her strategies. She’s no dummy.

The only problem is that so many people have these misconceptions about the Clintons. Independents, Republicans, and some Dems hate her worse than BUSH. ANd for what reason? These people voted for Bush who screwed up our nation and took us back to the dark ages. Thats not what the Clintons are about. Money is definitely not Hillary’s concern. Like i said, Its OPPORTUNITY.

But people are makin Hillary out to be the anti-christ, yet those same people are the ones that voted for Bush not ONCe, but TWICE. So i cant take anything u say seriously.

I would like Obama in the White House. It would be nice to see what he can do. Bill Clinton may be a decent guy but he’s not as corrupt as the shit we’re seein in the White House NOW. And his wife would be President, not him. He’d simply be her personal advisor.

I hope Obama does not become a puppet to the Powers ThatBe who are controlling our govt and economy. I really do hope he makes a change. Hillary is an Opportunist and i think if we gave her a chance she’d succeed in bettering our economy.

Personally i hope Barack wins the election. Another part of me wants to see what HIllary can do.

Funny thing is, if Barack wasnt running for the Dem nomination this election, just about all of you would be big on supporting Hillary. If it wasnt for the Barack-Factor, Hillary would probably win this thing big.

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