Go Obama

We need an experienced leader!

HILLARY 08!!

I’m on the fence between Hillary and Obama..I have reviewed Obama’s page I check out Hillary’s this weekend.

J. Dakar is so going to help me get through my Political Science class this semester. CL rocks!

We might see someone other than a white male in the White House in our lifetime. I’m still on the fence… but excited to see that Obama won the first caucus!!

we need to look at things that these people are trying to change for us in AMERICA. Obama has changes for health care and bringing the troops home….A CHANGE IS GONNA COME!!!!!

Oh and I think it will be between Obama and Huckabee.

I’m happy because this will be the first presidential election I can participate in now that i’m 19 but i’m still between Hilary and Barack I think both of them would make good presidents but Hilary does have more experience either way America is gonna have a change this time around because it seems to me that America is too fed up with the Republicans and so we will probably end up having the first black president or the first woman president.

@ 6, sure he has a plan to change health care but his change would mean we would pay MUCH more in taxes, I don’t know about you nut I need that money when I get my paycheck. We would also be paying for things we don’t need.

I actually think Ron Paul also has some very great ideas and plans that are also realistic (compared to Obamas’ idealistic “changes”) so now I’m on the fence between Clinton and Paul.

It is time for change and sometimes experienced leaders don’t know how to change. Have been stuck in the same way of doing things over & over again until it becomes rote. New ideas, new energy, new passion and new commitment is the only way we can move forward as a nation. I believe Barack Obama is the person who can lead us into a new way of thinking, of acting, and a new way of seeing ourselves… Obama ‘08!!!

DUDE!!!!!!… What the EFFFF is wrong with this website??? NO matter where I am..or what computer I use.. .. I ALWAYS get an ‘OPERATION ABORTED’ warning and the webpage closes…..

DUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was so excited when I heard that Obama had won the Democratic Iowa caucus but I think Hilary might make a comeback in New Hampshire….. anyways OBAMA ‘08

@ 13 Obama is NOT the person who can lead us to change he is way too inexperienced he has about one year in the senate and spent even less time in Washington, his “change” plans are unrealistic.

Clinton has the experience to be president, here are her qualifications:

-In 1995 Hillary addressed the UN Fourth World Conference on Women in Beijing, inspiring democracy globally
-she was a trailblazer during the Clinton Administration, introducing international measures on Human Trafficking
-she is the only First Lady to have addressed The U.N.; the World Bank; the Council on Foreign Relations; the World Economic Forum
-she has visited over 80 countries, personally intervening in getting women a vote in Kuwait, in human rights violations in Slovakia, the Baltic States
-she was a potent player in Northern Ireland, hastening peace there
-in South Africa she stood shoulder-to-shoulder with Nelson Mandela
-through her joint initiative Vital Voices, she has helped US mentors train women from new democracies for leadership roles
-Her Healthcare Plan is for everyone, unlike Obama which is one reason why Dr Susan Lynch, pediatrician/ NH First Lady endorses her.
-She listens to her supporters spending hours with supporters answering questions

That was meant for #11 sorry

@12 ME TOO!!!!!!
I thought I was the only one!

I’m shocked…I think Hillary has good goals for the white house…oh well…

OK! OK!…I WAS A LIL ON DA FENCE ABOUT YOU J. DAKAR, BUT YOUR PROVING TO BE A BENEFIT TO THIS SITE! ANYWAYS IM HAPPY THAT I WILL BE ABLE TO VOTE IN THIS ELECTION NOW THAT IM 18!! I FINALLY GET TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE….LOL

I am happy that the young people are so involved. I am not sure of whom I will be voting for, I will be watching each candidate like a hawk. Hillary was upset after Iowa defeat I’m surprised that she lost the women vote. Now on to New Hampshire.

OBAMA All the WAY! Listen to Obama speak, check out his web-site and read his books. The brotha is intelligent and has great ideas for the country. The so-called lack of experience some people talk about may be better than the “super ” experienced politicians who have run the country into shambles (i.e. poor housing conditions, terrible education system, IRAQ, billions being sent to Afghanistan, IRAQ, etc.) As far as expanding health care goes increasing taxes does not have to be the case. If the government puts less money into foreign countries like China and reappropriates the funds to Americans, healthcare can be offered to everyone. More monies can also be placed into schools and other services for the working class majority. It’s important to understand the facts and not make unsubstantiated comments. A time for change is now, and his name is OBAMA. Not to mention, it will be great for my grandparents to see a black person run the country in their lifetime, ours too for that matter! Peace.

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If Hilary can give a complete and straightforward answer to a question she’s asked, maybe I’ll consider giving her my vote, but she has no charisma, that’s what I like about Obama. I really haven’t paid too much attention to Ron Paul besides those loonies on the side of the road, maybe I’ll check out his page

charisma does not = great president

Obama flip flops WAAAYYYY to much and changes his ideas and plans based on who we is trying to cater to. His plans on health care have changed at least six times over the years and will not cover everyone.

I agree that Clinton is the best for the job, as she said during the debate, Obama TALKS about change but Hillary has been MAKING change happen for 35 years, especially in health care.

Obama is all talk and charisma but no proof. Clinton Has already made changes and will continue to make changes.

Didn’t Hillary have some plan for “managed health care” when her husband was in office that NEVER worked! The Clintons are corrupt and Washington doesn’t need more lobbyists and people making politicians weathier! There needs to be someone without all that baggage that can bring a new perspective!

Without Bill, there would be no Hilary. Hilary who?

Obama very little experience dealing and working with international policies and leaders, Hillary has been working with international leaders since she was the first lady, she has connections and experience.

The win for Obama in Iowa was definitely a good start.

I think he will definitely have to build on his “hope and change” campaign with some substance.

OBAMA IS INCONSISTENT AND FLIP FLOPS…….HILLARY IS THE BEST CHOICE.

Great recap J.D. It’s sad that if this topic was about some celebrity scandal or sex tape there would be 100’s of comments……..wake up people and realize what this election is going to do to or for America. This is one of the most symbolic elections in history. ….keep up!

off to a great start! I still think obama and hillary should have ran together

I am watching the debate right now on ABC and everyone sounds good to me but I have to hear more.

Latane shut the hell up ol cheap rabbit ass

Obama offers intelligent solutions to our nation’s problems on foreign policy, health care, education, security and energy. He is well-respected internationally. His national support base embodies America’s desire for intelligent leadership and change republicans, independents, democrats, young voters, minority voters, the middle class, and the poor. Experience doesn’t mean a damn thing these days

Try picking up a book, one of Obama’s books as a matter of fact

First of all Hilary’s experience is a joke…35 years of what, being Bill Clinton’s wife, she has only a few years more experience than either Barack or Edwards who both have the same amount of experience in the Senate. Big ups to Dakar for doing this because I am actually amazed and very dismayed at the level of ignorance I read in some of these comments…People this is one of the most important presidential elections in the past 50 years it is certainly the most important in my lifetime…Get out and listen to these candidates speak, maybe take five minutes away from your time on ConcreteLoop and visit these candidates websites and read their positions on various issues, or turn on your television set the New Hampshire debates just ended and CNN, MSNBC or even FoxNews will be covering these elections nonstop as will other national networks and perhaps even more importantly if you feel strongly enough go volunteer for your chosen candidate. Lastly while I appreciate what ConcreteLoop is doing and the fact that they are stepping their game up above the gossip blogosphere fray it should not be up to them to educate you, you should want to take the initiative to take advantage of the opportunity presented to us to for, the opportunity that so many of our ancestors fought, and protested and died to ensure that we have the chance to vote. So please be informed, inform others, and VOTE

Oh and I didn’t realize my comment was that long I probably should have broken it up into paragraphs but it came out as one long stream of consciousness, my apologies.

@ Aikes Hillary has 6 years in the senate and participated in senate votes, before that she participated in politics when she was first lady something many first ladies never do, even before she married Bill Clinton she was involved in politics. Obama has been in the senate for about a year and rarely spends time at the senate or votes at the senate and when he did, he supported controversial plans.

go barack and huckabee!!

@ brittanybeauty there is no need for personal attacks because of who I support, I don’t personally attack you for what you believe, that was an ignorant comment.

Also I have read Obama’s books I have done research before I chose my position and as I have said he is all talk, he is a man that had a lot of charisma and is great with words but that doesn’t make for a great leader. Hillary has better plans than Obama.

To BrittanyBeauty: experience has everything to do with it, would you want an inexperienced doctor operating on you? Would you wan an inexperienced teacher teaching you or your children? So why would you want an inexperienced president leader the COUNTRY, in which you live?

So J. Dakar said, “a small number of Republicans who came to the Democratic caucus to vote for him (Obama).” Was this more of an underhanded thing to hurt Hilary? I mean, I think the Republicans are thinking Hilary is gonna get the Democratic nod, so they are gunning for her more than anyone else. Could this be why she came in third instead of second?

Hillary is to devisive. we need a president who will bring everyone together. We are already divided as a nation. the most divided we have been in quite some time. I think if hillary is elected she won’t have a snowballs chance of getting legislation passed. People hate her with a passion we need a president who is going to bring together everyone. Obama may not have alot of experience but he would have advisors to help him. I think the man can do it. It is time for the representatives of status quo and the old guard of politics to get with the program or get walked all over as change marches through washington..

You called me a nut being a little hypocritical aren’t you and your on here baggering everybody elses opinions on who they support or who they want to vote for so don’t sit there and tell me what the hell i’m doing now that’s bullshit

brittanybeauty I have never called you a nut, please show me the post where I said this I didn’t attack anyone personally for what they believe. I am also not baggering anyone else, I stated who I support and gave my reasons as to why I support her and why I don’t support Obama.

a doctor and a senator are two different things that’s like saying you going to college to compete with other students but what da hell do I look like being a Criminal Justice major competing with a Business Major????? That’s so damn STUPID

@ 6, sure he has a plan to change health care but his change would mean we would pay MUCH more in taxes, I don’t know about you nut I need that money when I get my paycheck. We would also be paying for things we don’t need.

Back to Rick shit like that experience doesnt even matter these days they have High School Coaches teaching History and Math don’t have a bit of experience im pretty sure people from Texas have had a Coach teach at least one of their classes in high school I had this coach for my class he tells read the book answer the questions and turn in the work these days people are about getting students out of school the easy way and it’s a shame

That was a typo it was supposed to say BUT. I think the point of the comparison Rick was not show a comparison between jobs it was to show that experience is needed in jobs, and leading an entire country needs experience.

Well I apologize damn but still thats my opinion respect it

I respect your opinion I hope you respect mine, I didn’t mean to offend just to inform, I’m sorry if I offended.

Your fine.

I apologize for calling you cheap 2 Lol

Go ahead Obama! Sounding like Martin Luther King, Jr. in that speech. He is the definitely the great debater, when he speaks everybody listens!

Thanks for the recap, great job!!

I really like what Ron Paul is talking about. I saw him in the debate on ABC and he was the only republican making sense to me. On the democratic side, I’m pulling for Obama. Hillary is so full of it. How the hell can she claim to have so much experience as First Lady? Her hubby was getting head in the Oval office on the regular, so apparently she was following him that closely.

@ 11 MEEEEEEEEEEEE TOOOOOOOOOOOOOO i dont understand that either, i can get it to work after a few tries but it really pisses me off.
About the caucuses, i feel that at first, Hillary had it, and Obama was gonna be turned away because he was black, but now, with Obama winning in an almost complete white state, he could definately do this. in New Hampshire, i thnk that the independents will swing his way, which will definately hurt moderate republicans in the race. if Obama wins New Hampshire, there is no doubt that he has a strong chance of being the democratic presidential candidate and even become our next president in 2009.

I just don’t know. I have done extensive research on both and in my opinion Hillary is the better of the two. I actually like John Edwards! I am really on the fence because no matter which way you flip it; it’s either vote for the woman or the black man. I like the idea of Obama being in office, but I would’ve preferred if he had run for VP with Hillary…I especially like that a vote for Hillary is a vote for Bill. However, I’m going to keep listening, watching, and reading. I am so happy to have this convo here. Thanks CL!

Regardless of where your position is, it’s great that there is this type of debate. I am well aware of Clinton’s resume and her experience does make me feel confident, however, it just sometimes feel like a double-edged sword. Does she have so much experience that it immobilizes her ability to think outside of the box? Will her many years as a political cohort mean more of the same swindling and government waste that’s been going on for years? Will Obama’s lack of experience make him less able to see the trappings of politics, especially on an international level? Will Obama provide real solutions for babies to baby boomers? What are we really looking at here? They both have broken ground and have impressive legal and politcal backgrounds, but I want to know who is thinking most about my needs? There’s more to read and see in the next few months…

@Latane…While I agree that Hillary has a few years over Barack I think she is overstating her experience when she keeps on talking about her “35 years of experience”…experience at what because it certainly isn’t legislating and her only significant political effort as first lady was an unmitigated failure. Also first ladies have been playing strong roles in politics since the 1940s with Eleanor Roosevelt, although Laura Bush has not done much if anything politically the fact remains that many first ladies have been active politically and Hilary’s major effort was a failure. You do make good points of Barack’s lack of participation in the Senate and failure to establish a voting record, but IMO that was more to give him more room for his presidential push which I would guess he has been planning for some time after 2004

@ Aikes

I cosign everything you said about Hillary. She has experience being a first lady her husband was POTUS. She has never had any experience holding an executive position., i.e. Governor, mayor etc. As far as flip flopping let’s see there was the whole incident with illegals getting drivers licenses. At first she was for it, then she was against it, then she was for it again, then she was against it depending on what audience she was in front of. Then there was the war on terror, she was for it when she voted to support Bush, then she was against it. Clinton has 35 years of listening to polls and going whichever way the wind blew. Obama voted against the war from the jump and never wavered. Obama makes a statement and doesn’t change his opinion or statement. For the past 16 years we have had “experience” in the white house. During that time we have had trade agreements that have sold the middle class down the river and out-sourced our manufactering jobs, we are in a war to protect Iraq from insurgents but our borders are wide open, our currency is basically tanking, and the economy sucks. Let’s get some new blood in there and shake things up. After Bush I don’t think anyone could mess it up even more.

Big ups to Concrete Loop for providing an opportunity for intellectual convo on the site! While Hollyweird gossip is all fine and great, it’s still nice to talk about things relevant to us.

With that being said, I’m pulling for Obama. Hillary–the fact that she’s married to Bill is going to hurt her. If we elect her into office, we’re essentially recycling political machines, because trust and believe it will be a de facto 3rd term for Bill…she’ll just be the puppet strings. I also like what Edwards stands for, I do.

I’d be content with an Obama/Edwards or an Edwards/Obama ticket.

On the republican side, I’m not quite sure. I’m not feeling Giuliani because I think he’s is trying to ride that 9/11 ticket to the White House. I need to know more! Huckabee, while he’s likable, and he is steadfast to his faith, I think there’d be more of a blurring of the separation between church and state lines with him. It would essentially trickle down to some of the scientific advances that we as a county could make. (In other words, I could see this dude vetoing bills providing funds for stem cell research and things like that) The only 2 dudes on the Republican side that I can deal with is McCain and Paul.

I’ll end with this: If Obama gets elected, I plan on having my behind in DC on 1/20/09!! That will be such a historic day!!

Vote for Obama and make us, Europeans, and the rest of the world proud of the US. Give us a chance to see you once again as a nation that can be an example. Vote for change!

For anyone who is still one the fence maybe this website might help you make a decision, it shows the candidates stance on certain issues and their voting histories, it might help you make a choice.

Barrack Obama on the issues:
http://ontheissues.org/Barack_Obama.htm

Hillary Clinton on the issues:
http://ontheissues.org/Senate/Hillary_Clinton.htm

Hope it helps!

@Latane in reading your comments,I ‘am left to wonder do you really think before you speak.@comment 2 you make your SUPPORT Clinton based on her so-called experience,then @ comment 10 you’re on the fence between Clinton a democrat,and Paul,who is clearly a republican.Then @ comment 14 you jump back on the Clinton banwagon by listing her qualifications,the most hypocritical of which was your statement that she stood side-by-side with Nelson Mandela,and did what exactly!Did she call her husband into action to stop the nearly 1 MILLION Rwandans from being hacked to death?Did she ask her husband what kind of provisions for child-care were being made when he reformed the wellfare system,that left these poor women working to pay child-care that they could not afford?Did she ask what would be the long-term effect of NAFTA long after her husband left office?Her kind of experience is the LAST thing that America needs right now!!!! I have watched this woman Support Bush’s policy in Iraq,when we had no reason to be there in the first place,going so far as to vote in favor of an additional 200billion dollars toward the Iraqi War Effort a little more than six months ago.@ comment 23 you stated that Obama flip-flops,that he’s changed positions on healthcare…do you REALLY think that Mrs.Clinton will present to the American people the SAME healthcare plan that made her the laughing stock/political liability of her husband’s first term, or will she do some flip-flopping of her own?If Mrs.clinton is elected it will represent 24 years of a Bush or Clinton holding the highest office on planet earth.The people of IOWA have spoken,they are tired status quo and the days of empty rhetoric are coming to an end,and so are Mrs.Clinton’s chances of being taken seriously.I still feel in my heart that the Clintons had something to do with Ron Brown’s death!!!!Research that Latane!

typo:” of the”status quo

@ jones i have done my research and i have made my decision, it wasn’t something I just decided out of the blue, and I only mentioned Paul because after watching the debates I think he impressed me and I think he would make a great president also, but my first choice is still Clinton. Her experience is exactly what we need right now, she has a clear definite plan for Iraq, health care, education and many other things that is achievable. Obama thinks he can sit down with republicans and international leaders even our enemies and charm them with his words into siding with us.

Hilary has too much hatred for Republicans to lead the country (not that I don’t either but still). If you heard her speech, she made a brief joke and while it was funny…its not something someone in hope to become the president of the USA to make. Do that ish in private.

All I have to say is O-BA-MA!

Nikki, he really did sound like Martin Luther King JR. didn’t he?? I knew I wasn’t the only one who heard that.

SMH. Only 66 posts?! We have a candidate that realistically can become the first black president, someone who is respectable, honest, a phenomenal public speaker, a man in high power who is actually married to a black woman (okay sorry, you know I had to say it)

…and 66 posts?

Really?

I want Obama, if you remember Clinton wasn’t that great either, better G.W, but still, I feel like there might be a tremendous amount of influence from her husband. I really just wanna see a Black president.

calm down folks! damn, people being going hard! don’t argue.lol. but i just wanted to say. This is my 2nd election that’ll be voting in, but I can agree that the nation needs a president that isn’t going to divide us further….like how this board is divided over politics….

Honestly, i don’t have a party that i’ll electing.. Republican or Democratic, whoever has the best intentions for the nation will win my vote. and lately they are NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO republicans that i deem to have a strong enough point that i would vote for the.. Right Now I’m on the fence between Hilary and Obama, Edwards got dropped due to the fact that i don’t see anything more convince than when he was gonna be vice president..

Now between Obama and Hilary, as the days progress I’m turning more to Obama’s side, b/c as i sed, tho he maybe a Democrat, he has a good republicans that are on his side.. i feel that he has the opportunity to somewhat reunite us, after these past 8 years of pure disaster….

disclaimer: it;s only my opinion.. don’t fight me for it.. and 2ndly, we don’t vote till November, maybe another candidate may prove to have more of a uniting power,than Obama.. only time will tell..

But remember no matter way, if we get a Republican or Democrat, please VOTE, and VOTE wisely. we don’t need anymore “Bushes” in the white house, they belong in a fucking garden..

Latane you still have yet to address the serious flaws with team-Clinton…why did they allow so many people to die in Rwanda…NAFTA….Whitewater…Ron Brown’s mysterious death etc..Do you really think that Mrs.Clinton can go to the middle-east,north korea where women are viewed objects and be taken seriously?She would have had more clout with the american public by taking a firm position against the war in Iraq the way Obama did,but instead she backed the Bush Policy,and now she wants to distance herself with the same political family that she and her husband have jumped into bed with.I hope that I’m not the only one who witnessed the flat-out hypocrisy of Bill Clinton teaming up with Daddy Bush to form fake-coalition to help Katrina victims?Latane where are you getting your information from,seriously?

what “experience” does hillary have? being the wife of a governor and president does not count as experience. her “experience” is 6 years in the senate, big deal. her biggest vote in the senate was to vote for the war in iraq.

Hillary and her supporters are really starting to irk me when they keep claiming 35 years on experience. Making a speech in front of the UN does not make you exceptionally savvy on foreign policy. I was making Easter speeches in church from 4 years old until 16, I’m still no preacher.

Her 35 years of experience starts with a single event in 1955, followed by a handful of events scattered throughout the years until she became the First Lady. That is not experience that is participation.

Being First Lady is a title, not a position; It simply means that you are married to the president and does not indicate any expertise or special insight. Although she was very visible and active, she was not a primary player in foreign policy during either of the Clinton terms. Let us not forget that the work she did on developing health care policies were abandoned when she faced criticism and controversy, something that she will see plenty of a president. So, i would ask can she handle the pressure of resistance when pushing for change, because her record shows that she cannot. Let’s not mistake Bill’s experience for Hillary’s.

So this leaves Hillary with six years of experience in the senate, not much more than Obama or Edwards. Don’t forget that Obama was also a Ill. senator and a civil rights and community activist, so he does not lack political experience. Even as a senator, Hillary has not been consistant nor aggressive in working against curruption in the Bush adminstration. She has not worked aggressively towards health care change, prior to becoming a candidate, or economic issues that will effect us all after we graduate from college with thousands of dollars in student loans and can’t find jobs.

Furthermore, the health care plan that she proposes includes a mandate, simular to the mandate that drivers must have car insurance. That means that there will be penalties (likely financial) for not having health insurance. I ask, How many of you are uninsured, have the money for adequate coverage, but just choose not to be insured. Exactly. People do not need to be penalized for not having insurance, because when they make the choice not to be insured it is usually because they have more immediate needs.

Finally, NO candidate will walk in on “day one” and know everything that there is to know about the job. That is why the president has many advisors. That is the whole purpose of a cainet. I don’t think anyone can argue against the fact that Obama is intelligent enough and diplomatic enough to become more efficient in foreign policy. That may be his weakest area, but he is hardly incompitant on the issues.

and to someone who said experience making health-care, what examples? when she tried to do her healthcare plan it failed miserably.

Congrats to Obama!

Everybody got something to say when it comes to politics, but lets see how many of us actually go out and vote on primary and election days.

still waiting Latane…

Yay! I’m so excited. I’m 19 so this will be my first presidential election and its proving to be a very exciting campaign season.

Team Obama, I wonder what would really happen if he become the first black president? Have yall ever wondered about that. Like will it cause more bad or good. Think about it. But I’m still for Team Obama.
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LATANE, I think you might be on the wrong site. You are WAAAAAAY too transparent. Damn, black folk can’t have nothing. lol

@25: Exactly!

@23 (LATANE), aka #24: If like you said, that Obama’s plan (which according to you, would not cover everyone) implies more taxes, what then would Hilary’s plan do? lol. It kills me when these loonies get online and spin all kinds of garbage like people are too stupid to see right through their half-baked rhetoric.

Besides, I heard Obama articulate that his healthcare plan would focus on people without choice, for example, children, which makes perfect sense. Please get your facts straight before you start foaming out the mouth.

#14 LATANA said: “-in South Africa she stood shoulder-to-shoulder with Nelson Mandela”

Gtfoh.. where was she when he was writhing in jail while his countrymen where being crushed with apartheid? Now you’re just being silly.. please stop cracking me up.

can anyone give me the website to these canidates ppplleezz?

i’ll be voting for the 1st time this year
OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT!!!

Obama is gonna be in my school this tuesday and i cant wait to hear what he has to say. he speaks so intelligently and he’s a hardworker. he reminds of MLK. i’m so proud of him and his half kenyan self. i hope the kenyan leaders can learn from him now that they’ve lead kenya into a civil war. the first kenyan war in history. we need leaders like him.

and waiting……..

I believe Latane is on someone’s payroll. Hillary’s camp machine perhaps.

#82: Major Democratic Candidates:
Hillary Clinton
John Edwards
Mike Gravel
Dennis Kucinich
Barack Obama
Bill Richardson

Major Republican Candidates:
Rudy Giuliani
Mike Huckabee
Duncan Hunter
Alan Keyes
John McCain
Ron Paul
Mitt Romney
Fred Thompson

Peace and blessings,
J. Dakar

sooooo on point southernbell

I wannna agree with 75! is everyone gonna actually VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OH PLEASE. Hillary has no damn experience, go Obama! I’m sick and tired of being sick and tired of this goverment. Hillary aint nuttin but a female Bush with a healthcare plan.

# 75 NOW YOU SAID A MOUTH FULL! PLEASE JUST GO OUT AND VOTE PEOPLE! IT IS ACTIONS NOT WORDS! COME ON NOW! COME ON!

VOTE VOTE VOTE!

@75-88-and 90 don’t worry, Bush’s policies over the years makes it so hard for people not to vote, too many people black,white,candy stripe are fed up with the same old b.s.

I’m rooting for Hillary.

Yeah, she’s pretty much an extension of Bill Clinton, but he was a pretty good president overall (better than Bush) and she’s pretty experienced.

So go Hillary.

this whole experience thing is KILLING me. i’m from Chicago and Obama has been in politics here for over a decade!!!

He was a state senator and now he’s a US senator. I think he’s got a lot of great experience under his belt.

There have been a lot less experienced people in the white house than Obama.
He’s got experience, and he’s got a message than people need to hear — and that i GENUINELY believe he is going to carry out.

Although, I would love to see Obama in office…it’s not highly likely! Behind closed doors this country is still ruled by the Old boys clubs of racist Anglo Saxon Men. We must be realistic about this…even if Obama does make some waves…it’s unlikely that he will be voted in office. Even if he was, there would be some controversy…think Bush election of 2004 –he never even officially won the election!! Not to mention the fact that we were marching for Civil Rights not even 30 years ago and let’s not forget the assasination of MLK and JFK. Those same racist views and attitudes still prevail in this country…don’t get it twisted!! It will be interesting to see how this plays out…They not gone let Obama in office without a major fight…BELIEVE THAT!!

Hillary and Bill Clinton are different people, why are people bringing up issues of Bill Clinton like it was Hillary’s fault, every politician has their share of controversies, what matters is what they can do for us now. And to the people saying that Hillary doesn’t have 35 years of experience and saying that her experience is being Bill’s wife, please do your research her contributions to politics have been happening since before she even married Bill.

How can people say that experience doesn’t matter? It has everything to do with it, this is the United States the most powerful nation in the World and you want someone with so little experience to run it? Even Bill Richardson would make a better president than Obama because he has more experience and is sure of himself. Obama has plans for change but has no proven record of actually making change other than giving charismatic speeches.

WAKE UP BLACK PEOPLE!!!

Obama is not a politician, he is a arrogant politician who would not be up in polls, if it was not for Oprah (white ass.) Think about it what has Oprah really done for black americans, she believes just like Will, Jada Smith and the rest of them that you have to be a certain black person to make it. Obama isnot ready and just because he married a sista, dont mean shit. The Clintons made our country prosperous, blacks and middle class people flourished when Bill was in office. Obama thinks he is slick trying to team up with Edwards…they continue to disrespet Hillary Clintonbecause she is a threat. Ask yourself, whenever have you seen Obama is not a black person who has struggled (he lived and grew up in Hawaii,) has he ever struggled like the average African American. He has not and I have never seen him walk through the Ghetto nor Edwards. The Clinton’s have gone above and beyond. Waste your vote on Obama and that change bull shit he’ s speaking of you want. Whoever enters that Whoye house has to clean up a lot of shit that George Bush has created. The person has to have experiene and relationships with foreighn leaders. This is not a time for change but a time for CORRECTION. Hillary 08 keep fighting girlfriend.

Oh yeah excuse the grammatical errors…I was a bit heated as I was typing. I meant White House….etc

Personally…I don’t want Obama to win. Not that I’m prejudice, but let’s be real for 3.5 seconds, he’s only gonna get votes based on his skin color. African Americans are gonna be lined up at the voting polls from around the block just to vote for him. I bet more than half of them won’t even look at what he’s trying to change. Shoot, most of them prolly never even voted before, now they wanna vote just because we have a black candidate….The mayor of my city is black, and since he’s been in office, summer youth jobs have gonna strictly to all black teens, i would say approximately 87% went to them…..Talk about lookin out for your own people…

According to recent polls, 69% of whites are ready for a black president
while only 47% of blacks are ready for a black president

why do you the majority of African Americans are not ready for a black president?

@98 - and who do you think people who have been in the WHITE HOUSE have been looking out for? You know, it’s comments like that that show how deeply ingrained racism and prejudice is. How are you going to compare your black mayor to a completely different black man -who happens to be half white -. We don’t all look the same, think the same and, you obviously haven’t been reading the comments because we’re clearly not going to all vote the same. Or as you say line up just to vote for a black man. I mean, have you not been paying attention? If it’s only black people supporting him, how in the hell did he win Iowa? Have you not read the polls and seen how black voters have historically payed less attention to who the candidate in contrast to what he or she stands for? Obama didn’t even initially have the support of 60% of black females. So, stop being an idiot, do some research and don’t be so quick to make baseless, pointless comments like that.

And while I am undecided still, i am a little unsure about the person woh said they have never seen obama walk through the ghetto. He’s walked through and worked to uplift the ghettos and public housing issues here in Chicago, not to mention the ghettos of his father’s homeland. Come on now.

I will vote for Obama or John Edwards. Anyone but that lying phoney named Hillary Clinton. She can’t even admit that she made a mistake in voting to give George Bush the authority to go to war in Iraq. Plus I hate the “black voice” she uses whenever she talks to a black audience. It is insulting to say the least. She makes me sick!!

If Oprah Winfrey ran for president, she would win.

@ 102

i cosign with you about that…another thing that disgust me is how she changes her accent whenever she’s at southern states…as if she’s one of them…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsLHxja43iY

Re: EJ
Polls don’t mean ish, lol. A single poll doesn’t represent the 30 someodd million “African Americans” (NOT EVERY BLACK PERSON IS DAMN AFRICAN AMERICAN OKAY? DAMN! DON’T FORGET ABOUT US). Give it a rest.

Re:4REALZZZZZZ
I cannot stand people like you. What difference does it make where he was born? So because he isn’t a product of slavery he can’t run for president in America? Will that be the bar that black candidates need to jump over in order to qualify to run as a black person? Obama is not black enough but Bill Clinton is…ya’ll are a trip. lol

(_!+0
Sunday, January 6, 2008
Personally…I don’t want Obama to win. Not that I’m prejudice, but let’s be real for 3.5 seconds, he’s only gonna get votes based on his skin color. African Americans are gonna be lined up at the voting polls from around the block just to vote for him. I bet more than half of them won’t even look at what he’s trying to change. Shoot, most of them prolly never even voted before, now they wanna vote just because we have a black candidate….The mayor of my city is black, and since he’s been in office, summer youth jobs have gonna strictly to all black teens, i would say approximately 87% went to them…..Talk about lookin out for your own people…

^^^^that’s a very ignorant statement. even though i agree that some MAY vote for him because of his skin color…he’s didn’t WIN iowa, because of his skin color, he’s not on the verge of winning N.H. because of his skin color. iowa is 95% WHITE, and i’m quite certain that a black man with the name barack hussien obama being the motivator of him winning that state! nor should it be OUR reason, NOR it should be OUR reason NOT to vote for him. if you don’t want to vote for him, it should be because of his policies, NOT his color. and even with that, he should be our 1st priority to do research on to see if he’s worthy because having a black man as the nation’s leader will FOREVER change the face of this country and how the world will percieve us.

here’s a powerful clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reIasgDX4VY

Latane
Sunday, January 6, 2008
Hillary and Bill Clinton are different people, why are people bringing up issues of Bill Clinton like it was Hillary’s fault, every politician has their share of controversies, what matters is what they can do for us now. And to the people saying that Hillary doesn’t have 35 years of experience and saying that her experience is being Bill’s wife, please do your research her contributions to politics have been happening since before she even married Bill.

How can people say that experience doesn’t matter? It has everything to do with it, this is the United States the most powerful nation in the World and you want someone with so little experience to run it? Even Bill Richardson would make a better president than Obama because he has more experience and is sure of himself. Obama has plans for change but has no proven record of actually making change other than giving charismatic speeches.

^^^^^^^^ well, um bush had the most experienced cabinet EVER in u.s. history….the majority of his cabinet, past & present had an average of 40 years of that experience, and i mean EXECUTIVE experience…

cheney, condi, rove, rumsfeld, powell, the names goes on…all with superior experience, and look where we are at now.

so if hillary is the status quo of that “experience” of the past 35 years that she claims she have…she’s PART of the problem not the solution. people are looking at someone to break that tradition. and 20 plus years of people ONLY knowing bush, clinton, bush, clinton…isn’t breaking the tradition…she’s campaigning that smae health care schitck since ‘93 when he failed the 1st time…

now whut’s your arguement again?

keep in mind, that reason why people voted a relatively unknown and inexperienced bill clinton (and no, being a state governor does NOT equals to white house experience) wasn’t because of “experience” but because they wanted someone that could change the direction this country is going. we got a new generation and people are once again TIRED of how things are and how bad they are gotten. the clintons are not part of that status quo. in fact most of her policies are online with the bush doctrine.

A replublican HAS to win. Im definitly voting for Mike Huckabee. All the democrats are gunna take the troops out of Iraqs for what. They chose to be in the army so that’s what they deserve, if we take the troops out of Iraq, the iraquies are gunna come to America and bomb up every thang and hall are gunna start crying. Learn sumthin.

OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT 2008!!!! MAKE A DIFFERENCE VOTE BARACK OBAM A

Latane I see you came back,and you brought some friends to help you out.Or did you just put new names to give validity to your rhetorical comments?You speak of Mrs.Clinton’s experience and the examples of her so called experience,you even go so far as to put people on blast for not doing their research,but when I asked you what were your sources of information,you were missing for hours,why….?@96 boy where should I start to dismantle your convoluted,brainless statements.Oprah with all the money,power and influence is ONE mistake away from taking OJ’s slot as the most hated black person in America,but have you been to her show for a live taping?If you did you would see all of the black people she employs in powerful positions,name a white-run studio that does the same?You go on to say how prosperous blacks,and the middle-class were,but you failed to mention that the North Atlantic Free Trade Agreement(NAFTA)took all that prosperity away.To say that Obama was trying to team up with Edwards against Mrs.Clinton was hands-down the dumbest thing I’ve heard,why would he align himself with someone he’s defeated?And by the way Obama also llived and grew up in Kansas.It is my hope that people like you and your friends Latane,and 98 get a GED,and maybe the manager will put you all on fries or the drive-thru,keep hope alive you dumbfucks

yayy Obama !

Latane…..

I respect your opinion, but it is just that. It is sad to see young people, and unfortunately African American people falling for the bs that the Clintons are throwing our way.

Hillary Clinton, what experience? Barack Obama has been an elected offical LONGER than she has……And on top of that, they both were lawyers. And if she is counting Bill Clinton as her “experience” then she is nuts. If I were getting brain surgey and the doctor couldn’t do it anymore, and they said “oh, I’ll send in his wife, she has experience?” I’ll be looking like okay WTF! All I’m saying is, don’t let the rhetoric fool you, it’s not all good. AND if she is counting Bill CLinton as her “experience” then let’s recap why don’t we. I’m only 24 years old, and I REMEMBER when Bill CLinton was president okay. Do you know that he expanded the death penalty so that drug dealers could get the death penalty? African Americans make up 80% of the drug offenders in state and federal prision which began to hike during Reagan adminstration but Bill CLinton didn’t slow the so-called war on drugs down. And what about Rwanda, huh? What about Somalia…..MILLIONS of Africans died under Clinton and she wants to scream at W. about Sudan. She is a phony! And the NEw Orleans leeves were sheculded for replacement during the Clinton administration. Believe the hype if you want to! And don’t forget that the THREE STRIKES bill was introduced during the CLinton administration, and I wonder do you know how many more Black people are disppropotionately are in jail than White people because of the BS! TWO MILLION!

And it’s so sad to see people, especially BLACK people giving this lady so much praise. It’s one thing to support somebody but it’s another thing to be a fool.

I can say I was critical of “hillary” from day one. I say her debate in Detroit and Kwame Kilpatrick was standing to his feet and I just thought to my self, she isn’t even saying anything! Nothing! If Obama was a white man, it wouldn’t even be a competition.

I’m tired of listening to Hillary Clinton talking about George Bush. Okay, she went to the same law school with this man, and she has lunch with his father. I don’t want to hear anyone pandering to me. Telling me lies. You know what, she may get the nomination, because she is uber-corrupt but I vote my hope and not my fear. I am not scared. And even though I live in Michigan and Obama isn’t on our ballot, I hope one day I get to vote for a candidate I really believe in.

TOOFUNNY: You are telling the truth!

Adrian Clyde: Don’t be a fool. I’m dying to know what experience she has? Or are you too going off hear say?

Hihat808: You have this site confused?

JONES: Eloquently written.

4REALZZZZZZ: Willie Lynch? Ever heard of him. Conquer and divide, it is the method that has been used on AA forever when it comes to pyschological divison. Don’t make stuff up just for the sake of making stuff up.

gluvnast: You are telling the truth and nobody wants to hear it!

Black Diamond: It’s been OVER 40 years. But I feel you, it never ends. But guess what, you have to vote your hope not your fears. Because half the people that don’t want a “black” president, won’t even bother voting.

Becca the Promo Mami: Tell it!

#100 Said: “According to recent polls, 69% of whites are ready for a black president
while only 47% of blacks are ready for a black president. Why do you the majority of African Americans are not ready for a black president?”

- Because sorry to say, many African Americans are self-hating drones. Look no further than this thread for good examples.

Did anyone watch the New Hampshire Democratic debate last night on CNN? While Obama and Edwards kept themselves composed for the majority of the debate, Clinton showed a nature of anger on a regular basis and kept repeating that she had over 35 years of experience in politics. She constantly got defensive when she wasn’t being attacked. I don’t know about you, but I won’t be voting for Hilary Clinton in November.

@ No. 2…how is Hillary an experienced leader? She’s been a Senator yes, but other than that, she has no political experience.

She’s riding the coat tail of her mediocre husband ( I voted for Bill, but his record aint THAT great).

Hillary seems to be the female, Democratic version of GW. I can’t really see her making any positive change on the global or domestic front. Her authentic self is coming out since she lost Iowa and folks are realizing it.

Go Obama!!

Yes, I did see the debate watched it more than once and I saw her body language and her facila expression she looked “ghetto” and full of hate for a brother and i lve what Edwards said to her in defense of Obama that you did not start attacking him until Obama until he was ahead.
The media even mentioned her flip-flopping this weekend and now all of a sudden she has gone fo rthe young vote and the even showed how she has put change on her campaaign bus. Obama has been speaking change since 2004 and that was his platform in his acceptance speech………
Hillary thinks we are stupid… she acts like she has entittlement issues…all we would be doing is putting Bill back in office and if she hates Obama she hates all blacks……….
forget Hillary………experienced at decieving and manipulating people and I am not having it!!!!

Hillary Clinton is a cooporist…

people here think its easy for black people to switch their votes…

People support barack obama..

and the clintons…are scared…lol

103. MaxAMillion said: I will vote for Obama or John Edwards. Anyone but that lying phoney named Hillary Clinton. She can’t even admit that she made a mistake in voting to give George Bush the authority to go to war in Iraq. Plus I hate the “black voice” she uses whenever she talks to a black audience. It is insulting to say the least. She makes me sick!!

I never noticed the “black voice” Hillary uses on black audiences. LMAO! That sounds racist and stereotypical. Good comments!

Also, let me say one thing about experience in the White House! No one on the planet could do worst than George W. (Esquire) Bush Jr. He has proven that experience, special interest and background are way overrated. He has put us in debt to the tune of trillions!

All we really need in a president is someone who will say NO to all the BS. And, YES to the things that really matter! Like…saying no to the war and yes to healthcare. No to dependency on foreign oil and yes to keeping jobs in the US. No to States that permit discrimination and yes to immigrant who enter the US through the proper channels.

Finally, if Monica blew Bill in the White House, what makes you think that Hillary won’t? The Clinton’s are freaks! I ain’t mad at them, but we don’t need another scandal after the war.

Obama/Edwards ‘08.

Nice piece Dakar

Lisa
Saturday, January 5, 2008
OBAMA All the WAY! Listen to Obama speak, check out his web-site and read his books. The brotha is intelligent and has great ideas for the country. The so-called lack of experience some people talk about may be better than the “super ” experienced politicians who have run the country into shambles (i.e. poor housing conditions, terrible education system, IRAQ, billions being sent to Afghanistan, IRAQ, etc
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Thank you Lisa. Dubya’s “experienced” & look at how well he’s done.

@122 JerseyBred323

Lisa spoke well, but its not just bilions…it has turned into trillions!

Hillary keeps saying she has experience; with all her experience and all the things she says she’s done, things in this country have only gotten worse. She can’t use her husband’s record because that was his record. She claims she was very involved in some of the policies and decision’s made when her husband was president. If that was the case she should have known what was up with Bill & Monica. Either way, none of these canidates now running should lay claim to their experience when this country is so screwed up right now; with all this experience you would think they would have known not to let Bush go to war and they would have solved at least some of the countries problems by now!!!!

I am voting for Obama.

But please people let me say this, do your RESEARCH and vote for the canidate who YOU believe will make a difference as president. That is so very important and I’ve noticed that some people get caught up in the hype and start to listen to “hear say” while letting the opinions of OTHERS form their decision. It’s crazy that some of you are actually bickering back and forth about each others OPINIONS. If someone wants to vote for Hilary, then that’s their choice. But in the end, I just hope everyone does their research, it is key.

Obama has charm and good looks but little else. His Health Care solution is socialism. Higher taxes for all sounds real good to me. No securing the border plan that will work. Hello??? Young people, my age group 18 -35 Wake up and vote for the best person overall. We need a strong leader who can run the government like a business. It’s OUR tax dollars they use not theirs to do with as they wish. Read the Constitution, stop listening to MSM and get the facts people BEFORE you vote for charisma and a smooth talking man or woman.

I think it will take a Godly miracle to get out of the mess we are currently.Damn near every country hates the United States or doesn’t want to have any dealings with us. I’m not saying its all Bush’s fault (though he is a problem of such degree we may never recover) because we have been burning bridges since we “discovered” these lands, but I stand with my previous statement that whoever comes after him will need God’s help and grace to fix whats completely broken.

The only way to have experience in anything is if you’ve already done it. Hillary has not been President of the United States before, therefore she can not have experience being president. Her husband was, but again, that is his record not hers.What people are saying about Barack, they said about Bill Clinton when he first ran, that he wasn’t experienced enough; by experience what people really mean is not being willing to play Washington politics(which is what I don’t want). Then you here people say that Bill Clinton was the first black president or he’s done more for blacks. He did not free us from slavery nor did he sign the bill allowing us to vote; so what has he really done? Let Bill get pulled over by police and Barak get pulled over by the police and then see who is really the black man!

126. km said: Obama has charm and good looks but little else. His Health Care solution is socialism. Higher taxes for all sounds real good to me. No securing the border plan that will work.

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With the money that Bush has wasted on his senseless war to find weapons of mass destruction and fight terroism, Omama could have funded his Health Care plan, cut taxes and gave every Mexican in Mexico $30,000 to stay in Mexico. Being President of the USA ain’t that big a deal anymore!

You never gave your definition of a strong leader. You did raise caution on voting for a smooth talker with charisma! Well, I’m glad Martin Luther King said what he had to say before you came along, because he was one of the most charismatic, smooth talkers to ever walk the face of the planet. Him and Jesus were as smooth as Ray Allen and Paul Pierce in the fourth quarter!

What’s a strong leader? I think the choice is this: You either want someone who will spend Americas money on people and the environment or you want someone with special interest like George W. Esquire Bush! Obama is ready to shift the focus back to humans…not oil and Wall Street! You don’t have to be a genius to make those decisions! If Oprah can figure it out, surely Obama can!

And, another thing…: George isn’t spending OUR tax dollars…he’s spending our great-grandchildrens tax dollars! He has spent the future of four generations. And, don’t get me started on the service men and women who are coming home disabled from the war…who will need 100% subsistance for the rest of their lives.

Developing…!

To 102 and 106 FLOACIST (Yeah right) GG BOOBOO (in his clothes.) I dont give a flying saucer what you think or who you can’t stand. If you dont like my comment press the hell on. Like I said Obama is full of ish and just because he walked around the Ghetto of Chicago don’t mean nothing to me. When you run for president you walk around all the damn ghettos in every state. IL doesn’t over rule the delegates that will get his fake behind in office. If he is all about change like he says he is, why not reach out to every state not just CHI town…Oh I forgot because that’s what a politician does when he runs for president. He’s arrogant and wants power without the playbook. Waste your vote if you want… Obama is Kenyan/whatever the heck else, with a pretty face and a tounge sweet as honey that’s why he’s getting votes from needy over 40 women. If he were the color of Denzel without the half white thing going for him, he would not have gotten the attention he’s getting. I am tired of black folks feeling that you have to be mixed with something to achieve everything. That’s the problem with our people now. He is not real and like I said does not know the real struggle of a BLACK man…that is a 100% black man. So until he walks in the shoes of a black person with skin the sun of ripe raisin, hair nappy like wool and opportunities null and void when they seek employment to feed their family…I’m not trying to hear it. He needs to sit the hell down, he’s fake I can’t stand him…NEXT Hillary 08

130. 4REALZZZZZZ said: “…He “Obama” is not real and like I said does not know the real struggle of a BLACK man…that is a 100% black man. So until he walks in the shoes of a black person with skin the sun of ripe raisin, hair nappy like wool and opportunities null and void when they seek employment to feed their family…”

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And, you think Hillary is closer to that discription? Does she know the struggle of a black man? And, has she walked in the shoes of a black person? How much are you getting paid by the Clinton campaign?

Obama can answer all those questions when he goes home at night and sees Michelle and his two daughters! Yes, he is walking in the shoes of a 100% black man, because his wife is a constant reminder! And, yes he knows how ripe the raisin is cause he’s been in it at least twice! hehe! And, from what I’ve seen from standing next to him and shaking his hand, his hair was nappier that my wool!

I don’t know what you have against Kenyans, but all the ones I’ve met are pretty cool! God! Family! Community! Government! And, what is all the talk about him having a tounge sweet as honey! They all talk ish! And, if anything, Obama is more intelect than rhetorical! If you want to hear rhetoric, go see Jesse or Al! Obama is more like the Kennedy’s…Boston exact!

Get over the “playbook” and “Danzel” $#!T! Nobody wants to hear your old 2007 ish! It’s 2008 and he took Iowa by storm! I actually think Hillary was relieved that she’s off the hook! hehe!

“Meat”

You proved my point. The MSM sheeple are evident as spounted in your talkig points.

You guys are right about Hillary’s voice, it changes to fit her audience as I saw in the youtube clip, sort of like a tamer version of Paula Deen lmfao. She’s on the war path now, especially since she got handled in Iowa, and last time I checked she was more than 10% behind Obama in NH. I think a lot more antics will come from Hillary before the race is over.

Received this in an email regarding Obama…this is what I am saying about doing research. I went to the church website.

“Barack Hussein Obama claims membership at the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago
http://tucc.org/about.htm

Can you imagine the societal reaction if another church used phrases like, “White worship experience”? Or said, “We are a white people”? Or claimed to only have “ministries which address the WHITE community”? Or a “white value system”? And what’s more, would the media not spend every waking hour attacking a person running for President who was a member of such a racially exlusive church?

And since Barack is a member of that church, does he share that “non-negotiable commitment to Africa” or to the United States of America? ”

Do you know?

@132 km,

Oh, I get it! I prove your point, but you’re too ashamed to say what it is! You tried to make many points…not just one! So, which one are you talking about? Because, the MSM has nothing to do with my views!

The was has cost trillions!
4000 lives have been lost! More that 911!
Obama can do no worst than Bush or Hillary!
David only had experience leading sheep when God called him!
God can use anyone!
Bush is for special interest!
Obama could have improved health care with all the money Bush has squandered!
Obama can do the same ish that Bill Clinton did!
Bill Clinton wasn’t the savior for black people.

You can stop me when you find a point you dare defend!

Now, let me give you my MSM.

It’s Morehouse School of Medicine! Not, the Mainstream Media! What happens in Washington DC the four years ain’t gonna deter me from my goals and acheivements.

So, I don’t buy into Hillary being our best bet! You think that the Republicans will win for sure if Obama gets the Democratic vote! Well, let’s see! They already have it screwed to the hilt! Let’s party with Obama for 18 months!

OBama and Hillary will REQUIRE you to buy healthinsurcance

FEDERALLY MANDATED

YOU WILL BE PENALIZED FOR NOT HAVING HEALTHINSURANCe.

JUST LIKE CAR INSURANCE.

Hillary and obama are frauds.

KM: Who the hell cares! It is a known fact that the most segregated time of the day is Sunday morning at 11 o’clock. So he goes to a church of mostly Black people, what Black person doesn’t! Get a life, or a better life.

OBAMA 08….and I was screaming that in 06!

Received this in an email regarding Obama…this is what I am saying about doing research. I went to the church website.

“Barack Hussein Obama claims membership at the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago
http://tucc.org/about.htm

Can you imagine the societal reaction if another church used phrases like, “White worship experience”? Or said, “We are a white people”? Or claimed to only have “ministries which address the WHITE community”? Or a “white value system”? And what’s more, would the media not spend every waking hour attacking a person running for President who was a member of such a racially exlusive church?

And since Barack is a member of that church, does he share that “non-negotiable commitment to Africa” or to the United States of America? ”

Do you know?

^^^^^^i presume you must be white, lol

! Since you know nothing about him….how about he worked as a community organizer straight out of college….HELPING THE SAME AVERAGE BLACK PEOPLE IN THOSE SAME GHETTOS YOU SPOKE OF!!! Please educate yourself! Tell me, where have the Clintons gone “above and beyond?” I’m not impressed by their name, they haven’t done a thing for black people and they certainly didn’t make black people better off. So instead of riding them as much as you do…why don’t you actually take it upon yourself to actually read his book, visit his website, and then learn how to form an intelligent argument! This man can bring us together b/c he understands what it’s like to be raised by a single mother, he didn’t grow up in a rich family…he has family members who represent the colors of the rainbow so he understands not just the plight of black people but of all people. Do you really think someone running for president, especially an African American can actually become elected if they only speak about their alignment with black America and how down they are for the cause? Give me a break! He has to garner support from all walks of life. Not just one group can like him! I’m so frustrated by your lack of intelligence and common. It’s people like you who prevent this country from moving forward! We need someone who can bring us ALL together. Who cares about us ALL having a better future….who is a great listener and agent of change….along with inspiring in us to do, have, and demand better!

#12 just use the back arrow and it opens back up wit no problems

J.Dakar can u do an overview of all(or most) of the candidates and what they are about

obama has great policies for a better and new change for america i personally believe that any democrate should be president as long as its not a republican they still on some bush ride or die type ish so OBAMA 08

I have been a lurker on this site for a year now - mostly for the music posts, but I have to say I’ve been impressed with the political posts. Congrats. It has folks talking, even saying crazy ish, but thanks to those of you who step up to correct. Just continue to attack the misinformation, not the person.

As for my own thoughts, well I see it like this:

Obama is going to take New Hampshire. Clinton is really going to come unglued. She alright broke down in tears today when the latest polls that she so values and studies showed that he was running 7-8% behind Obama in NH. Obama’s gonna have major momentum….right to Super Tuesday and the democratic nomination. I think he’s smart enough to realize that he can’t choose Clinton as his running mate (he’s already casting her as anti-change, so what would choosing her say about him?) I found it quite interesting that Edwards came to Obama’s defense during the debate when Clinton attacked Obama “You’re only attacking him now because he’s in the lead” was the quote if I recall correctly. Edwards has also been aligning himself to that ‘change’ message and is more believable IMO.

I see an Obama/Edwards ticket, or it’s going to be someone from outside of current politics. Someone upstream mentioned ‘Gore’ - that would be a good look for Obama. He was actually the people’s choice in 2000 winning the popular vote, but not the all important electoral college vote. He brings some tangible ‘experience’ as VP with him, and wasn’t as ‘tainted’ as some of these other folks.

I could be way off, but Obama seems to be appealing to a broad base a people on both sides of the aisle, which is what will be needed to win the actual election. More importantly, he’s appealing to the youth - I’m 34, but I’m talking 18 to 25 - and getting them to cast votes, thereby increasing the turnout (which is hurting Clinton - she doesn’t want lots of people coming out to vote because in most cases they aren’t voting for her, especially if they are young. Young folks have no allegiance to or memory of Bill Clinton, the coattails she’s trying to ride into office on.) I think NH is bracing for record turnout, just like Iowa.

I’m in Chicago and haven’t followed what Obama did on the state senate level here, but to watch what he’s doing nationally is amazing. People thought Douglas Wilder being elected governor in Virgina in 1990 was something (it was for the time), but who would have thought in their lifetime that they would see an almost exclusively white state send a message to the US that they felt a black man was the best choice to lead the United States of America?

Those of you not on the Obama train yet should be wondering after Tuesday night, “What do these white folks see and know that I don’t know?” - because New Hampshire is another predominately white state.

Even if Clinton can make a comeback, she has no shot at winning the presidency. She is a lightening rod, you either like or hate her. To win, she’d need a stronger base than that, and Obama is already exposing to the democratic party that she doesn’t have that, and he does. Besides, when Edwards drops out of the race, and he will, he’s going to endorse Obama - you can take that to the bank.

My TV will be tuned in for two things tomorrow - BET for Janet Jackson’s “Feedback” video debut on BET, and Obama’s win in New Hampshire - to see just how big it will be over Clinton.

Right now our country is a hot mess, barely any other country wants anything to do with us. We don’t need change we need someone top fix this hot mess of a country. The Clinton’s are the better choice to do that. If Dubya didn’t mess up this country so badly maybe Obama and his “fresh idea’s” would be needed but they are not. I know Hillary can be polarizing at times but she is the best person that can get us out of this mess we are in, Barack cannot.

Also I’m from New Orleans and as most of you know we have a thick accent. When I’m at work or an a social setting I change my accent to try to fit everyone else’s but once I’m with my people the “baby” and “yes indeeds” come out in force lol. If I remember correctly Hillary was in Arkansas for most of her marraige to Bill, so who are we to say she didn’t pick up some of the southern twang. The black voice thing I’m not cool with, I never heard her use it so I can’t judge, but the country accent ya’ll gotta do better than that.

Cajiva

Barack and clinton voted to continue the war

clinton and obama voted WITH george bush many times.

patriot act 2

military commisions act

homegrown terrorist act

real ID act

OBama and Clinton should not even be considered as presidential choices

OBAMA IS TOTALLY ON POINT AND HE FOR SURE HAS GOT MY VOTE!!!

Hilary doesn’t give a flipp about you, she just wants your vote and will say anything to get it!

Did you know that the reason millions of people are incarcerated for crack cocaine three- strikes -you’re -out is because clinton signed the bill making it mandatory?

What about powder cocaine? That was o.k. with the clintons because it was used in very large quantities by rich whites so the clintons obviously were on a mission to do damage to the african american community—and they did because many of these same brother are probably infected with hiv, and thus deemed damaged goods.

All hillary wants is power–she cares only about power…. I really dislike dumb azz people who can only see white when considering a presidential candidate.

Dumb azz ni**as who are used to being mistreated and still wanting some more!!

Mental illness runs deep in the black community and for sure comes in many forms.

Honestly, all I can do is shake my head at those of you who will continue to support the same ‘ole B*ll Sh*t folks who never gave a damn about you and never will.

Hillary will however say whatever she must to get in where she fits in….

Be aware of hillary because she is a bush clone in disguise!!!

O B A M A FOR P R E S I D E N T

Clinton 08′

This thread is amazing. People are criticizing Hillary for changing her accent with black people, but Obama does the same thing. People are criticizing Hillary for voting for the war, but the only reason Obama didn’t vote for it was because he was not in the Senate. He never supported the war and said he wouldn’t fund it because it was morally wrong but got to Washington and voted in favor of the funding.

Hillary has been criticized for benefitting from lobbyists but Obama has done so as well. In fact, I wonder if he would deny lobbyist are actully working for him right now.

Plus, Hillary has said that knowing what she knows now, she would not have voted for the war. She VERY wisely has not apologized because the Republicans would have raked her over the coals for being a “flip flopper” and having bad judement.

Hillary is accused of saying or doing anything to get a vote but Obama has been doing the same thing.

I pray to God this is not going to turn out to be a “Emperor has no clothes” situation with Obama.

Go Hillary 08′

MEAT

So what about B.O’s church? Who is his allegiance to? How do we really know?

Even though NH got it wrong today I still am rooting for Barack. I support him and I hope people do their HW on him and see the type of man he is and why he is the best candidate for the job! Barack Obama 08!!!

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