Senator Hillary Clinton rode a wave of female support in the New Hampshire primary on Tuesday night. Clinton won the primary by 39 percent to 36 percent, injecting a sorely needed infusion of optimism to the campaign of the candidate widely dismissed this week as a has-been by media pundits. With virtually all polls suggesting the New York senator would go down to a major defeat Tuesday, her supporters braced for a double digit blowout by Senator Obama – even as she was still reeling from a disappointing third place showing in Iowa last week.
Meanwhile, in the Republican primary, Senator John McCain revived his presidential bid with a Lazarus-like win. McCain had 37 percent of the vote, while Romney trailed with 32 percent, according to results posted by the Associated Press. McCain’s victory dealt another serious blow to Romney, the former governor of neighboring Massachusetts. Romney campaigned hard and spent heavily as he sought wins in Iowa and New Hampshire, only to come up short in both states.
Clinton’s surprise victory now sets up a dramatic one-one-one gender-dominated contest for the presidency between the first major party female presidential candidate and the first major party African-American candidate. And it guarantees that the Democratic presidential primary contest continues tooth-and-nail through Feb. 5, when Californians will weigh in during their “Tsunami Tuesday” primary.
Clinton’s victory came after her advisers had lowered expectations with talk of missteps in strategy and concern about Obama’s momentum coming out of the Iowa caucuses.
Hillary Clinton gets emotional in N.H.
“I come tonight with a very, very full heart,” said an emotional Clinton, who had been accused of being too scripted and cold. She acknowledged a moment on the campaign trail which many said was a turning point in her effort – a rare display of emotion this week in which she teared up talking about her passion for the country and its future.
“In the last week, I listened to you,” she said, “and in the process, I found my own voice. Now together, let’s give America the kind of comeback that New Hampshire has just given me,” she said to cheers.
McCain’s victory was crucial; New Hampshire was widely viewed as a make-or-break state. He has invested nearly all of his limited resources in New Hampshire, which he won in his 2000 bid against George W. Bush. His second attempt for the White House, however, was in trouble last summer because of weak fundraising and a blurred political message, leading him to fire senior advisers and refocus his energy on New Hampshire. This success gives McCain a jolt of momentum heading into Michigan and other early primaries and caucuses. It’s a setback, though, for former Massachusetts Governor Romney, who lost to Huckabee in Iowa on Jan. 3 and had been counting on victories in Iowa and New Hampshire to gain front-runner status.
To cheers of “Mac is back,” McCain told supporters Tuesday night, “My friends, you know I’m past the age when I can claim the noun ‘kid,’ no matter what adjective precedes it. But tonight, we’ve sure showed them what a comeback looks like. Tonight we have taken a step, but only the first step, toward repairing the broken politics of the past and restoring the trust of the American people,” he said.
I agree 100% sir. Black people are calling other black people “house negroes” if they don’t vote for the mixed African man that the white man has put up for them to vote for, lol. It’s inconceivable to black people that a so-called black man like Obama wouldn’t be “down for the cause”, whatever black people think the cause is, because he’s “black”. The only reason why he is a viable candidate is because he’s black without reminding white people that he’s black. This whole “vote Obama because he’s black”spiel is extremely simple-minded and short-sighted. America is on an irrevocable course to destruction and any presidents after Bush will only preside over an increasingly paranoid, militaristic, fascist state. It’s going to be the biggest hot potato, blame game anyone has ever seen once the next president enters the White House and continues the agenda and doctrines of the people that dictated to Bush. Either the incoming president will be viewed as “weak” when the “terrorists” ratchet up the threats and provocation or a warmonger as he/she continues to obliterate each neighboring Islamic country for the sake of “democracy”. I guess it depends on what you want at the end of the day. Most black people deal with appearances so, to them, being captain of a sinking ship is a privilege as long as you have the title of captain, lol. I’ve stated numerous times before, that just because a person is “negroid” in appearance doesn’t make him/her one of our people. Black people are the simplest people on the planet earth and that is why they’re always being taken advantage of. It’s like the kid in elementary school that you knew would look down whenever you told them their shoe was untied. It’s sad. Hillary will be the next president of the United States unless she pisses off the people that will put her in. She has been anointed for a while and Obama is her foil. We’ll see.
That was at #63 “African Dude”
GO HILLARY!!!!!!
It sickens me that black people are attacking other black people just b/c they’re tilting towards Hillary Clinton.
SO FUCKIN WHAT? It doesnt mean we’re brainwashed, whitewashed, or whatever. A woman like her running for the presidency HAS to be a strong non-emotional candidate b/. Who cares if she cRIED? U act as if she does it all the time. I knew that as soon as she shed tears people would call her fake and weak. And i was right. And then people claim she’ll cry to get whatever she wants, even as president. Sorry, but that is The STUPIDEST thing ive ever heard.
Do u really think her crying was actually the reason she won NH? Get real. It was more than likely the Bradley effect.
Hillary does have experience, even if its through her husband Bill. Even as First Lady she was given other roles to play. She’s made worldwide connections. She knows her stuff and she’s not going to bring this country down any worse than Bush has.
Do u really think Hillary Clinton is going to ruin our nation? People act as if she’s the fuckin’ anti-Christ. Do u really think she’s worse than Bush? And she is definitely an advocate for universal health care. It can work if its done right. I understand she is backed by Pharmaceutical companies but it doesnt make her their puppet. She’s a smart woman. Yet people dont like her and see her as too divisive.
I think Obama is a good person. Beautiful and smart wife. He would indeed make a good president. But i keep getting this feeling that he is being set up. Did u know tha some Republicans voted for the guy? They could slyly be trying to help him get the Democratic nomination with the agenda of breaking him with the Republican machine, a machine that Hillary definitely knows how to beat.
Im voting for whoever wins the Democratic Nomination, unless its Edwards which will not happen. Edwards should not be on any ticket.
And i agree with someone said up there, if u compare the two, Hillary and Obama are actually the SAME on many issues. So by working together as P and VP, things would probably run smoothly.
I still have faith in Barack Obama to win the democratic nomination. Hilary only won by 2%, will see on Super Tuesday, when the states with real weight start voting to see who’ll be on top.
Judah. Stop it!!!!!!!!!!!
How do you call people who have made some of the greatest contributions to humanity…”Simple? What do you have against yourself, that you would think so lowly or yourself! I have more respect for the elementary kid who looked down to see if his shoes were untied, than I do for the kid who lied and said they were untied!!
I don’t know if he’s “down for the cause”, but I know he’s down for his beautiful black wife and children. Is he gonna make life more difficult for them? His light skin might not remind America of his blackness, but his wife and kids sure do!
Now, I agree that the White House will be a mess when Bush leaves, so why not let Obama try to clean it up? I don’t think Obama is running as “one of our people.” His message includes everyone! Black people didn’t give him the victory in Iowa or the silver medal in NH.
Judah said:”…vote for the mixed African man that the white man has put up for them to vote for” LMAO! You are so paranoid! Do you really think that this is a $45M National Conspiracy? Who’s behind it…Bush? FBI? Bill Gates? Who? You spread confussion like a gangster rapper in a small building! Just a lot of loud yelling!
And, as much as you try to espouse God, you should know that He is the Captian of the ship! It won’t sink unless He decides to sink it! It don’t matter who gets the “privilege” of being called President! Try thinking from the stand point of the Kingdom and God’s purpose! His Glory is bigger than your bitter discourse! The gates of hell will no more prevail against America than your garbage will against CL readers! hehe…now that was poetic!
You need to take a few steps back, let go and let God!
I feel different from in the past we really do have great canidates.
White people ain’t gonna make a black man president. They lie and claim they will vote for Obama in polls and then vote for a white person. Same thing happened to Doug Wilder in the 80′s and Harold Ford in Tennessee. Hillary is going to win no matter what.
uhm KEEPING IT REAL, WTF are you talking about….keeping it real ignorant, irrelevant perhaps. Obama having a white mother is irrelevant to his “credibility” as being a black man. And your little slave comment!? when was the last time you picked cotton…since when does having had a Great Great grandparent that was a slave give one “credibility” as a black person. You are an idiot! Next.
Obama IS an attorney, has spent time in both local and Federal government. He has as much…rather MORE than one our most endeared presidents, JFK. Further, he had enough COMMON SENSE to vote AGAINST the RAPING OF IRAQ. At the end of the day I wan’t a mix of experience and common sense…Hiliary ain’t it!
I am voting straight Democrat. There is obvious concern about Hillary experience vs Obama’s experience. Well Bill led the country for 8 years. And I must say he did a fine job. The economy was great. The housing market was thriving. Health care guidelines were better accessible for the lower middle class and poor. Bill consulted with his wife on everything. If she is elected, it will be Bill again. She is going to bring the old heads from the Clinton Administration. By all means I like Obama. However, I am more comfortable with Hillary leading the country with Bill by her side. I usually support every Black candidate even Jessie Jackson back in the day… but at this day and age with the war going on and folks that are in my circle had to close businesses because the economy is sooo bad…I got to vote with someone I can trust. For some strange reason he reminds me of Condolesca Rice(one of Bush advisor’s)…I just do not get swayed by Obama’s speeches to vote. I want someone that I can trust…
I will never vote for Hillary Clinton. After what I saw her Husband say and do to “Obama” I fount myself shocked and disgusted. I was a big fan of the Clintons but not anymore. And the experience issue with Clinton is dumb sense Bill Richardson has way more then she does. Yet, somehow people believe Hillary is more experienced. What people are really voting for is Bill Clinton not Hillary.
@Meat
You love America don’t you brother, lmao? Why is it that everytime I say something, some clown thinks that I’m trying to “convert” someone, lol? Is my opinion that powerful? Are you frustrated that I’m not under the same slave mentality, mind-control, entertainment-induced indoctrination as yourself? Get over it. Do you and I’ll do me and we’ll see who is correct in the end. Simple as that. You and I both know that you have no facts, knowledge, wisdom, or precedence to back up any of that schizophrenic, exclamation point filled nonsense. I never mentioned anything about white America accepting him because he’s light-skinned, so you exposed yourself when you said that. I don’t spread confusion, “Meat”, lol. I speak sober-minded words and if it’s confusing to you; it’s because your mind is trained to accept lies as truth, so when you hear real honesty and truth, it sounds strange and unreasonable. Truth divides people, it doesn’t bring them together (Luke 12:51). America is about hustling people. The drug dealers hustle dope and the polticians hustle hope. Perpetuating false hopes to the masses of disatisfied people that believe that they should be happy because there’s nothing better than America. This is why they need some silly slogan for their campaign because they must sell their hustle. You happen to buy into Obama’s hustle. I do not. To each his own. Christ and the apostles never said,”I’ma vote for Augustus Caesar and so should you.” (even though there was no vote back then).
Are you light-skinned brother? Are you insecure about your “blackness”? I know that simple black people base their blackness off of how light or dark they are because they don’t know any better but it’s 2008 and it’s getting old. It seems like you have a serious color complex. These are the type of issues that need to be addressed in the black community that Obama is not concerned with. You also should stop using so many exclamation points. It makes you look childish and effeminate. You’re exhibit A of how small-minded and simple many of our people are. Stop holding onto the Bible as an ornament and read it. It condemns the tenets of America from Genesis (The Tower of Babel, Sodom and Gomorrah, etc.), all the way to Revelation (Revelation 18th chapter). The scriptures tell us to hate this world; which is controlled by Satan, but you love it, so what does that make you (I John 2:15)? The scriptures also go into great detail on the fate of America so if you wish to fight against that, please go ahead and condemn yourself.
Judicial Watch Announces List of Washington’s “Ten Most Wanted Corrupt Politicians” for 2007
Washington, DC –Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, today released its 2007 list of Washington’s “Ten Most Wanted Corrupt Politicians.” The list, in alphabetical order, includes:
1. Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY): In addition to her long and sordid ethics record, Senator Hillary Clinton took a lot of heat in 2007 – and rightly so – for blocking the release her official White House records. Many suspect these records contain a treasure trove of information related to her role in a number of serious Clinton-era scandals. Moreover, in March 2007, Judicial Watch filed an ethics complaint against Senator Clinton for filing false financial disclosure forms with the U.S. Senate (again). And Hillary’s top campaign contributor, Norman Hsu, was exposed as a felon and a fugitive from justice in 2007. Hsu pleaded guilt to one count of grand theft for defrauding investors as part of a multi-million dollar Ponzi scheme.
2. Rep. John Conyers (D-MI): Conyers reportedly repeatedly violated the law and House ethics rules, forcing his staff to serve as his personal servants, babysitters, valets and campaign workers while on the government payroll. While the House Ethics Committee investigated these allegations in 2006, and substantiated a number of the accusations against Conyers, the committee blamed the staff and required additional administrative record-keeping and employee training. Judicial Watch obtained documentation in 2007 from a former Conyers staffer that sheds new light on the activities and conduct on the part of the Michigan congressman, which appear to be at a minimum inappropriate and likely unlawful. Judicial Watch called on the Attorney General in 2007 to investigate the matter.
3. Senator Larry Craig (R-ID): In one of the most shocking scandals of 2007, Senator Craig was caught by police attempting to solicit sex in a Minneapolis International Airport men’s bathroom during the summer. Senator Craig reportedly “sent signals” to a police officer in an adjacent stall that he wanted to engage in sexual activity. When the police officer showed Craig his police identification under the bathroom stall divider and pointed toward the exit, the senator reportedly exclaimed ‘No!’” When asked to produce identification, Craig presented police his U.S. Senate business card and said, “What do you think of that?” The power play didn’t work. Craig was arrested, charged and entered a guilty plea. Despite enormous pressure from his Republican colleagues to resign from the Senate, Craig refused.
4. Senator Diane Feinstein (D-CA): As a member of the Senate Appropriations Committee’s subcommittee on military construction, Feinstein reviewed military construction government contracts, some of which were ultimately awarded to URS Corporation and Perini, companies then owned by Feinstein’s husband, Richard Blum. While the Pentagon ultimately awards military contracts, there is a reason for the review process. The Senate’s subcommittee on Military Construction’s approval carries weight. Sen. Feinstein, therefore, likely had influence over the decision making process. Senator Feinstein also attempted to undermine ethics reform in 2007, arguing in favor of a perk that allows members of Congress to book multiple airline flights and then cancel them without financial penalty. Judicial Watch’s investigation into this matter is ongoing.
5. Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R-NY): Giuliani came under fire in late 2007 after it was discovered the former New York mayor’s office “billed obscure city agencies for tens of thousands of dollars in security expenses amassed during the time when he was beginning an extramarital relationship with future wife Judith Nathan in the Hamptons…” ABC News also reported that Giuliani provided Nathan with a police vehicle and a city driver at taxpayer expense. All of this news came on the heels of the federal indictment on corruption charges of Giuliani’s former Police Chief and business partner Bernard Kerik, who pleaded guilty in 2006 to accepting a $165,000 bribe in the form of renovations to his Bronx apartment from a construction company attempting to land city contracts.
6. Governor Mike Huckabee (R-AR): Governor Huckabee enjoyed a meteoric rise in the polls in December 2007, which prompted a more thorough review of his ethics record. According to The Associated Press: “[Huckabee’s] career has also been colored by 14 ethics complaints and a volley of questions about his integrity, ranging from his management of campaign cash to his use of a nonprofit organization to subsidize his income to his destruction of state computer files on his way out of the governor’s office.” And what was Governor Huckabee’s response to these ethics allegations? Rather than cooperating with investigators, Huckabee sued the state ethics commission twice and attempted to shut the ethics process down.
7. I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby: Libby, former Chief of Staff to Vice President Dick Cheney, was sentenced to 30 months in prison and fined $250,000 for lying and obstructing the Valerie Plame CIA leak investigation. Libby was found guilty of four felonies — two counts of perjury, one count of making false statements to the FBI and one count of obstructing justice – all serious crimes. Unfortunately, Libby was largely let off the hook. In an appalling lack of judgment, President Bush issued “Executive Clemency” to Libby and commuted the sentence.
8. Senator Barack Obama (D-IL): A “Dishonorable Mention” last year, Senator Obama moves onto the “ten most wanted” list in 2007. In 2006, it was discovered that Obama was involved in a suspicious real estate deal with an indicted political fundraiser, Antoin “Tony” Rezko. In 2007, more reports surfaced of deeper and suspicious business and political connections It was reported that just two months after he joined the Senate, Obama purchased $50,000 worth of stock in speculative companies whose major investors were his biggest campaign contributors. One of the companies was a biotech concern that benefited from legislation Obama pushed just two weeks after the senator purchased $5,000 of the company’s shares. Obama was also nabbed conducting campaign business in his Senate office, a violation of federal law.
9. Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA): House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who promised a new era of ethics enforcement in the House of Representatives, snuck a $25 million gift to her husband, Paul Pelosi, in a $15 billion Water Resources Development Act recently passed by Congress. The pet project involved renovating ports in Speaker Pelosi’s home base of San Francisco. Pelosi just happens to own apartment buildings near the areas targeted for improvement, and will almost certainly experience a significant boost in property value as a result of Pelosi’s earmark. Earlier in the year, Pelosi found herself in hot water for demanding access to a luxury Air Force jet to ferry the Speaker and her entourage back and forth from San Francisco non-stop, in unprecedented request which was wisely rejected by the Pentagon. And under Pelosi’s leadership, the House ethics process remains essentially shut down – which protects members in both parties from accountability.
10. Senator Harry Reid (D-NV): Over the last few years, Reid has been embroiled in a series of scandals that cast serious doubt on his credibility as a self-professed champion of government ethics, and 2007 was no different. According to The Los Angeles Times, over the last four years, Reid has used his influence in Washington to help a developer, Havey Whittemore, clear obstacles for a profitable real estate deal. As the project advanced, the Times reported, “Reid received tens of thousands of dollars in campaign contributions from Whittemore.” Whittemore also hired one of Reid’s sons (Leif) as his personal lawyer and then promptly handed the junior Reid the responsibility of negotiating the real estate deal with federal officials. Leif Reid even called his father’s office to talk about how to obtain the proper EPA permits, a clear conflict of interest.
if obama doesn’t win the black woman vote in SC he will rappers to thank for that. they have done nothing but preach misogyny for years. He can also thank the preachers who preach women should submit.
DID YOU KNOW THAT HILLARY DID NOT HOLD A SECURITY CLEARANCE FOR A GREAT DEAL OF TIME WHILE SHE WAS FIRST LADY? THAT MEANS THAT SHE DID NOT AND NEVER READ MANY OF THE BRIEFINGS WHICH IMPACTED FOREIGN AFFAIRS.
I DON’T CARE ABOUT EXPERIENCE ANYMORE AS SHE CLAIMS TO HAVE…YOUR WHOLE TEAM CAN BE FULL OF EXPERIENCE BUT IF YOUR JUDGMENT IS WEAK THEN NO EXPERIENCE WILL FIX THAT, AS HISTORY HAS SHOWN US. THAT IS WHY I AM A FULL SUPPORTER OF OBAMA. HE HAS THE JUDGMENT TO TAKE THIS COUNTRY INTO THE RIGHT PATH BECAUSE IN THE END HE IS THE ONE WHO WILL MAKE THE DECISIONS.
IF HILLARY CAN’T TAKE THE HEAT NOW, IMAGINE HOW IT WILL BE IF SHE BECAME OUR NEXT PRESIDENT. OBAMA 08!!
I don’t get it black people this is what we have been waiting for a black man who is educated and about something to run for president. This is the dream of Dr. King, what people have died for ,cried for,and bleed for and were sitting around saying well life was good for black people when bill was president let’s try his wife you dont owe the clintons namesake but we do owe all the people black and white who died and march, to see that all they did was not in vain by giving Barak Obama a chance to show the world that black people have the mind and talent and skill to lead a great nation. my spirit would be crushed to know that we came oh so close but because of the efforts of African Americans inability to support someone who not only looks like them but has a great mind we are left to wait 500 more years.No, you should not vote for Sen.Obama because of what you see you should also vote by what you hear and read do your own research and see what he’s done and what he has’nt done and if you stilll feel Sen. Clintons your president than more power to you but give the man a chance and don’t pick the leader of the free world because of her husband record BECAUSE HE WILL NOT BE THE PRESIDENT..
Vixen23
Wednesday, January 9, 2008
DID YOU KNOW THAT HILLARY DID NOT HOLD A SECURITY CLEARANCE FOR A GREAT DEAL OF TIME WHILE SHE WAS FIRST LADY? THAT MEANS THAT SHE DID NOT AND NEVER READ MANY OF THE BRIEFINGS WHICH IMPACTED FOREIGN AFFAIRS.
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how do you know when her clearnace was granted? please cite your source
Vixen23
Wednesday, January 9, 2008
DID YOU KNOW THAT HILLARY DID NOT HOLD A SECURITY CLEARANCE FOR A GREAT DEAL OF TIME WHILE SHE WAS FIRST LADY? THAT MEANS THAT SHE DID NOT AND NEVER READ MANY OF THE BRIEFINGS WHICH IMPACTED FOREIGN AFFAIRS.
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please explain how you obtained confidential information like when hillary clintons clearance was granted? please cite your source.
OH AND LET’S NOT FORGET…WHO HAS BILL CLINTON BEEN HANGING OUT WITH LATELY AND HAS BECOME BUDDIES WITH? BUSH SENIOR!! THE BUSHS WILL STILL INFLUENCE THE WHITE HOUSE IF THE CLINTONS STICK AROUND.
keisha
Wednesday, January 9, 2008
I don’t get it black people this is what we have been waiting for a black man who is educated and about something to run for president. This is the dream of Dr. King,
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how can he be the dream when he’s anti affirmative action
For all you people saying Hillary is so experienced, what in the hell has done in the senate that impressed you so much? I can’t think of a damn thing. Y’all do know that Obama has served more years than Hillary as an elected official, right? Or do you just listen to what she says and take everything as the truth without questioning it? Do you really think as a black person that Hillary is concerned about your community? The only time she’s ever in a black neighborhood, is when she goes to a black church to try to get votes. And you best believe that the media is there to record it, ’cause she damn sure wouldn’t be there otherwise. Obama as been in the black neighborhoods working with black churches to help improve living conditions. Can you say the same about Hillary? For everyone on the Hillary bandwagon just because she barely won the NH primary, go to Obama and Hillary’s websites and read their bios and about their issues and don’t just blindly follow Hillary just because her last name is Clinton. Also, none of you Hillary supporters find it strange that Bill is so involved with Hillary’s campaign? I mean, is she running for president or is he?
Vixen23
Wednesday, January 9, 2008
DID YOU KNOW THAT HILLARY DID NOT HOLD A SECURITY CLEARANCE FOR A GREAT DEAL OF TIME WHILE SHE WAS FIRST LADY? THAT MEANS THAT SHE DID NOT AND NEVER READ MANY OF THE BRIEFINGS WHICH IMPACTED FOREIGN AFFAIRS.
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please explain how you obtained confidential information like when hillary clintons clearance was granted? please cite your source.
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SHE DENIED HAVING HER RECORDS FROM THE WHITE HOUSE PERIOD BEING PUBLICIZED…SHE KNOWS ALL OF THAT IS GOING TO HURT HER. IT’S BEEN DISCUSSED BY MANY POLITICAL ANALYSTS AND WHEN THEY ASKED HER CAMPAIGN REPRESENTATIVE HE CHANGED THE SUBJECT. I KEEP UP WITH MY POLITICS.
When did Obama ever say he was against Affirmative Action?
H-Town Chic***^^^^ #119
I know that is how politics and as far as I can see the only candidate not being a “politican” is Ron Paul
Lenear
Wednesday, January 9, 2008
For all you people saying Hillary is so experienced, what in the hell has done in the senate that impressed you so much? I can’t think of a damn thing.
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you can easily access her voting record using google. i am confident you will find she always comes down on the side of minority rights. obama on the other hand is anti affirmative action. i would prefer that you do the research on your own since i’m doing a couple of things but i can get a link for you if you wish
Ms TRUSTME
Ron pauls website has devised a fantastic way to get people organized
precinct leaders
go to the website and signup
Vixen23
Wednesday, January 9, 2008
DID YOU KNOW THAT HILLARY DID NOT HOLD A SECURITY CLEARANCE FOR A GREAT DEAL OF TIME WHILE SHE WAS FIRST LADY? THAT MEANS THAT SHE DID NOT AND NEVER READ MANY OF THE BRIEFINGS WHICH IMPACTED FOREIGN AFFAIRS.
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please explain how you obtained confidential information like when hillary clintons clearance was granted? please cite your source.
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SHE DENIED HAVING HER RECORDS FROM THE WHITE HOUSE PERIOD BEING PUBLICIZED…SHE KNOWS ALL OF THAT IS GOING TO HURT HER. IT’S BEEN DISCUSSED BY MANY POLITICAL ANALYSTS AND WHEN THEY ASKED HER CAMPAIGN REPRESENTATIVE HE CHANGED THE SUBJECT. I KEEP UP WITH MY POLITICS.
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i don’t doubt that you keep up with you politics, please do not feel like i am accusing you of anything. i’m simply wondering if you wouldn’t mind sharing with us how you obtained that confidential information..thx!
hitlery is anti civil rights and civil liberties and is owned by israel and wall street
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Ok, I’ll sign up but I must confess my secret unto you that I hope you keep secret. Do you have to be 18 to sign up and take action because I’m not yet
But I’ll check it out (^_^)
MaxAMillion
Wednesday, January 9, 2008
When did Obama ever say he was against Affirmative Action?
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please take a look into his platform.
What do you all think about the next race in South Carolina for Obama? South Carolina is a red neck state. I hope he can pull this one but I dont think so. If Obama wins the prez election who would be his Vice Prez? Who would be Hillary’s Vice Pres?
direct quote from obama
“I think that we should take into account white kids who have been disadvantaged and have grown up in poverty and shown themselves to have what it takes to succeed.”
allow me to change my original comment. he is not anit affirmative action, he thinks that poor whites should also be included in that definition. i apologize for the misinformation. i should have said he doesn’t think affirmative action should be for minorities only but should also include poor whites. in my mind that computes to he is anti affimative action but i can see how others may view it differently. Anyway, hillary thinks the definition should remain as it is
Ms. AKA
Wednesday, January 9, 2008
What do you all think about the next race in South Carolina for Obama? South Carolina is a red neck state. I hope he can pull this one but I dont think so. If Obama wins the prez election who would be his Vice Prez? Who would be Hillary’s Vice Pres?
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he is up around 20 points in SC polls right now. personally i think it would be a good strategic move for hillary to cede SC to obama and concentrate her resources in more competitive states.
I think it is quite a distinction actually. Obama feels that his kids (or someone like Michael Jordan’s kids) don’t really need the benefits of affirmative action in the way that poor black kids need assistance. The purpose of the law is to give everyone an equal opporunity at education, jobs, and financial security. Obama’s kids start way ahead of most black kids the same way that most white kids start out ahead of most black kids.
I think including economics into the equation makes sense. Plus Repulblicans are a lot less likely to be able to overturn Affirmative Action if you make it about the poor (most of whom are black percentage wise).
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Ms. AKA
Wednesday, January 9, 2008
I am voting straight Democrat. There is obvious concern about Hillary experience vs Obama’s experience. Well Bill led the country for 8 years. And I must say he did a fine job. The economy was great. The housing market was thriving. Health care guidelines were better accessible for the lower middle class and poor. Bill consulted with his wife on everything. If she is elected, it will be Bill again. She is going to bring the old heads from the Clinton Administration. By all means I like Obama. However, I am more comfortable with Hillary leading the country with Bill by her side. I usually support every Black candidate even Jessie Jackson back in the day… but at this day and age with the war going on and folks that are in my circle had to close businesses because the economy is sooo bad…I got to vote with someone I can trust. For some strange reason he reminds me of Condolesca Rice(one of Bush advisor’s)…I just do not get swayed by Obama’s speeches to vote. I want someone that I can trust…
^^^^^^^^^not trying to offend you or anything, but you need to watch out on who you can and cannot trust. another thing is you as black people cannot use the clintons as a safety net. there’s two flawed things with your assessment with the clintons. one being the case that if we’re going to have hillary as president then we’re going to have bill and everything is going to be okay. one thing you have to know that hillary is not bill, and even during HIS time as president, hillary was seperate from bill. so don’t believe that illusion that we’re going to have another bill clinton administration, that’s just like believing JFK & bobby kennedy were the same people, and they were not, in fact bumped heads alot of times. the 2nd flawed assumption is that we would return to the 90′s. one thing that’s wrong with that is that so much have happened this decade, especially due to the impact of 9/11, it will be IMPOSSIBLE for us to return to the past. that’s exactly whut it is, the past. the question is who is going to lead us in a completely new era? to the new decade? and the majority of the problems today were SEEDED from the 90′s. another thing you have to recognize that the SAME PEOPLE from the 90′s are the same people TODAY running this country. it’s plain musical chairs. in fact, the republicans were the ones that MAINLY dominated both the senate & the house during the clinton administration, the same ones who we put blame on today and kicked them out only to be disappointed by the democrats that are in control today.
whut obama is proposing is to scrap away from those who been connected with the bush/clinton eras…if you think about it, it would be damn near 20 YEARS of a bush, clinton, bush…and possibly clinton. and we need to end that cycle.
as for the experience portion, whom i feel is VERY suspect, because even if hillary acquired bill’s “experience”, whut’s the worth of experience when it comes to bad judgement? bush’s two cabinets had an average of 40 YEARS of EXCUTIVE experience!!! his cabinet is argueably the most experienced cabinet ever in a presidency. where did it get us? whenever i hear about hillary’s experience, i always question whut were her TRIUMPHS? everything i hear her connected with were FAILED projects. the biggest one in which she’s touting today is her so-called healthcare plan…the same one she been touting for over 15 years now! the whitewater scandel is another failure. i haven’t seen, especially for OUR people in where her experience equal to success. AT LEAST with obama’s limited “experience” he have made moves against racial profiling, injustice for the criminal system, calls for cleaning up the environment, and calls for better education. and even BEFORE holding the senator seat, he made accomplishment as a grassroots activist, denying high paying firm positions, because he believe in helping the community. i cannot understand HOW you feel he’s untrustworthy.
in comparison from obama. black people raised up IN SPITE of the clinton administration, not because of it. in fact, there were a number of things he done thru his administration that showed his objection to the black community.
-the sista soulja is a racist comments just to pulls votes
-the denial of Lani Guinier for civil rights attorney general because of her proposition on a new voting system that would of given minorities a fair advantage
-the BOOST of men of color being sent to prison due to the cosignment of the 3 strikes law. as well as the boost up with the death penalty, and the erasement of having prisoners to get an education. in other words, he made prison the new version of slavery.
-his COMPLETE objection to the million man march, which was one of the MAIN reasons we as black people were susseccful towrds the end of that decade, because of the impact and influence for empowerment and improving our lives and our businesses.
-the clintons have NEVER been trustworthy. i wasn’t even suprised as the tactics they used just to get the votes in N.H….the gender card (when obama haven’t YET used the race card), bill clinton calling obama’s run for president “a fairytale”, hillary downplaying the importance of MLK (of ALL people!!!).
our people need to wake up and understand, clinton didn’t do jack for us, we did it ourSELVES! if things were so “okay” in our people during the 90′s then why was an estimated 1 MILLION people marched in the 1st place?? it wasn’t because we want clinton’s help..it was because we were TIRED of the government to help us and decided to take it in our own hands. and it was a success. today’s generation need to look back and see that and be commited to do that for today.
this brings back to whut obama is saying. it’s MORE than one man, but us as a whole UNITING to improve this nation. the division that we have in america is unbelieveable…and in part it’s mainly because of the back 20 years of a bush/clinton/bush…and maybe clinton era…
lastly, the BABY BOOM domination of government is coming to a close. obama is not from that era, he’s the 1st one from the generation X era. most of us here are from the same era that he’s in. we NEED someone that is a representative of us.
african_dude….
Willie Lynch? Have you ever heard of him. It’s called conquer and divide. Pick out any little thing. Contrary to the History 101 you have been reading, but NOT all “black” people are descendants of West African slaves. Some West African slaves captured were also from East african and North Africa and even African island countries like Madagascar, who were in West Africa at the time, maybe traveling or what have you. SO…..actually you don’t know that. And bi-racial people, (Black and white, Black anything) is considered “Black” by US racial standards. We all know that race is a socially constructed fallacy invented by Eurocentrism, but it has come to be a culture subcategory that Obama very much fits into. HE self identifies as Black, and God damn-it that’s what we will call him. There is no wrong or right way to be “Black.” Please stop being ignorant before I take you to school.
Glad to see Hillary win New Hampshire’s vote.
I think that we should support Obama because he is in a tough situation with the presidential election. But we as black people know that the white people do not won’t a black person in the white house.
We as a people need to come together whether we live in the suburbs, the hood, or a manison somewhere. I think it’s about time we support Obama and support our brothers and sisters in whatever we do.
kmniles
Wednesday, January 9, 2008
I am baffled as to why people are using the Three Strikes law against Hillary as if it strictly targets black people. The law only throws the book at offenders with serious offenses, not misdemeanors. Granted there are some states that have blurred lines as to what’s considered a felony (like petty theft) but we cannot blame the Clintons for this…blame ourselves for not being vocal or participating in your local state elections and not being aware of how the state will implement the laws given to them. Laws can be amended you know…..just sayin…
ARE YOU AN IDIOT???? The law puts people in jail who committ felonies, like, let’s see the Black man who was put in jail for the rest of his life for stealing a pizza. It’s people like you, that offend me. Your ignorance is just astonishing. this is “google-able” stuff. It’s not like we are all walking around with this information that you are not privy too. I blame Bill Clinton, because he knew damn well what he was doing, and under him the Black jail population rose by 2 million. And it doesn’t just affect Blacks, but WE are the ones who are disproportionately make up the jail population due to racial profiling, harsh sentencing, etc. Which all SKYROCKETED under Bill. I don’t give a damn about people making more money under Bill, if my brother, husband, and father is in jail. Bottom line.
Check out this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FVlKY8Ispg especially all of you Hillary supporters that don’t have a damn clue about what so called experience she claims to have.
I have one thing to say, ******RON PAUL 2008******.
cat4everrr, you obviously don’t know what you are talking about. Obama is not anti-affirmative action. Please do your own research and stop relying on the Clinton campaign for all your information. Also, I didn’t ask what her voting record is. I asked could anyone that supports her please tell me what Hillary Clinton has done in her 8 years in the senate that benefited you and your family and impressed you so much? I’m still waiting for an answer. Anyone…?
Lmao @ AJBoogie saying “Barack Osama.” So corny. Funny how you can always tell who’s infiltrating concreteloop
I agree, this cat4everrr person is strange. There’s nothing wrong with white people benefiting from affirmitive action, because many do already: white women. In case you didn’t know, subgroups of whites can be minorities too…the fact minority seemingly equals black to you says alot about your thought process.
Also, are you from NY? How are you so sure Clinton is the way to go? I can tell you first hand, that compared to other politicians that I’ve had experience with, it’s almost as if she didn’t exist, she’s so inacessible. My family has contacted her & her office many times with issues important to us over the years, and we’ve NEVER received a response or any sort of aknowledgement, none whatsoever. Strangely this wasn’t the case with our other senator or elected officials, they contacted us, called us, mailed us, met with us. That’s what a true elected leader should do…some “woman of change” she is. I wish I could take back my votes! To put it plainly, she’s BS people!
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Hillary in NOT for Blacks. She is there for the “Other” minority. Gay white men and lesbians, and white women’s rights (not Black Women), .
Enough said.
Wow such a nice invigorating discussion that’s going down right now. I LOVE IT! Almost every comment that I have read has been so insightful, and I love that people are getting so involved in this political process!
Concreteloop I must apologize for last month, for putting you on blast for being too unbalanced in your political section,and I was slow to give any props to J.Dakar,based on his name alone.I know a lot of BullShit Brothas who take on Afrekan names, african_dude@63 would be the best example that I could provide.But J.Dakar thus far has been on point with his post,quick to give comment92@the Iowa Caucus post the help she needed,MOST IMPRESSIVE!!!!!!!!!!!! Back to african_dude, how much love do you think Hillary Kramer has for you?It was confirmed that this woman said without LBJ there would be no Civil Rights Act and Martin Luther King was nothing more than a dreamer….AND THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT TO REPRESENT AMERICA…..DROP SQUAD YOU GOT ANOTHER ONE TO PICK-UP.But seriously african_dude if you know ANYTHING about the slave trade in N.America,S.American, the Caribbean/West Indies is that only the first few generations of slaves from the motherland were pure.By 1836 there were well over 1million black people in the U.S. alone that whites termed Octoroon.It was determined that there are 35 diffrent skin tones that comprises the black race,so as I stated before we all are mixed no matter if you are at skin tone 1 or skin tone 35 but in this country BLACK IS BLACK…..and if you are going to call yourself african dude you should read BEFORE THE MAYFLOWER by LERONE BENNET it might give you more understanding and then again….
I’m tired of the fear mongering. Some of us wonder if Obama isn’t black enough or afraid that he might be killed once he became president. We’re living in the past we need to learn how to grow and prosper in a positive way. We should feel proud that this man was grassrooted from Chicago who rather help ALL people who are suffering rather than taking a top attorney job at a top-notched law firm .
He’s not looking at one race or gender, he talking about the USA as a hold. Clinton will divide us all if we are not open to change. Change is a positive thing because it give us the opportunity to open our minds to the point that you can believe in yourself to point that you can begin to think out side of that box so that you can grow and learn from one another.
I have watched this election very carefully. If Hillary becomes our president we will never get out of Iraq….that’s a fact. She have filp/flop over that issue every sinces she has been in this election..
Bill Clinton basically said that Obama ideal of changes are “Fairytails” and that this country will be rolling the dice if we select him as President. He pissed off various African American politicans by calling Obama a Kid. This is a grown man and very hard working Senator. who earn his position.
At Hillary’s last event in NH she stated that Lyndon B. Johnson was really the movement of the civil right not Martin Luther King. If the Clintons would’ve lost NH she and Bill was going get even dirter to divide the Democrats. They just want to win and they don’t care how they do this.
Do we want the same old thing. Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton, again? The economy is about to go into recession and almost every lobbyist is in the pockets of the Clintons. How can she bring true change?
Our American soliders are dying in Irag for what? Based on a lie and she wants to blame Bush. At least Kerry and Edwards apologize, if she would have done the same thing than I think that this would be a total different election but now they trying to make people think that Obama was flip flopping about supporting the war. They are desperate.
Alot of people used alot of common sense like Obama who knew we had no business going to Irag because we took our eye off the ball. Bin Laden is still sitting up in the mountiain in Afganstian while they filled their pockets with Iraq’s oi. as WE still pay for high price gas.
Nothing is not going to change. We need true change. We live on faith in hope all of our lives because we’ve been taught this all our lives. We have to face our fears and put alot of faith and hope in God because only he has control over our lives and we can’t look into a crystal ball to determine Obama’s future. We need to start loving each other and uplifting each other no matter what race or gender we are because we ALL Americans. The world is watching.seem them a message that we are really ready for true change.
I LOVE U GUYS!
Thursday, January 10, 2008
Wow such a nice invigorating discussion that’s going down right now. I LOVE IT! Almost every comment that I have read has been so insightful, and I love that people are getting so involved in this political process!
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i’m glad somebody is loving it. even tho i’m hanging in there with hillary i’m torn. i wouldn’t mind seeing obama win also. it’ s hard to get another view on why i should vote for obama when each time i try to engage with his supporters i have to deal with all the cussing and fussing and name calling. can you recommend a black website where i can find serious discussion without all the childishness? Thx!
Lenear
Wednesday, January 9, 2008
cat4everrr, you obviously don’t know what you are talking about. Obama is not anti-affirmative action. Please do your own research and stop relying on the Clinton campaign for all your information. Also, I didn’t ask what her voting record is. I asked could anyone that supports her please tell me what Hillary Clinton has done in her 8 years in the senate that benefited you and your family and impressed you so much? I’m still waiting for an answer. Anyone…?
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hello lenear,
sorry i couldn’t get back with you earlier, i feel asleep. i’m on my way out the door now heading into the office. how ’bout i respond to you late in the morning, deal?
PEOPLE VOTE JUST VOTE, IF MORE THEN HALF OF U GOT AT LEAST TEN OFYOUR FRIENDS TO VOTE MAYBE ONCE IN OUR LIFE TIME WE WOULD NOT BE EMBARASSED WITH HAVING THE LEAST AMOUNT OF ELIGIBLE VOTERS IN THE WORLD TO VOTE.
http://news.aol.com/polit...01/09/hillarack-oblinton/
this shows a break down of how Clinton and Obama voted in terms of Energy Issues
my votes still for Obama, although if Hilary ends up being the Democratic front runner ill totaly support her =)
Isn’t it a shame.
The VERY race of people who said they wanted to pick a President NOT based on skin color are the VERY people who are supporting Barack Obama based on his color.
Martin Luther King would be ashamed of us if he could see this.
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