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POLITICS: SOUTH CAROLINA RECAP

Sunday, January 27, 2008

After the most confrontational week of the presidential campaign so far, Sen. Barack Obama proved he could draw voters across racial lines even in a Southern state with his win in South Carolina on Saturday.

Fifty-five percent of the vote went to Obama, while Sen. Hillary Clinton and former Sen. John Edwards earned 27 and 18 percent, respectively.

Barack Obama’s victory speech in S.C.

In his victory speech, Obama said that the fight for South Carolina had not only produced a personal victory but also progress over the divisive politics of the past.

Although Edwards was born in South Carolina and won the state in his 2004 presidential bid, he seemed like a fading force on Saturday. He did win decisively among one group — white males — and vowed to go on after four consecutive losses.


According to reports, if South Carolina is any indication, the sizable numbers of black voters in Alabama, Georgia and Tennessee will strengthen the Obama campaign even more on Super Tuesday, Feb. 5.

“Obama’s victory will leave him with some strong talking points - especially that he can continue to expand his voting base into a conservative Southern state,” Blease Graham, a professor of political science at the University of South Carolina said. “His team comes out of this able to say that he’s acceptable to white Southern men. And the Clintons come out of this facing questions about how their attack strategy seemed to fail.”

SOURCE: IHT

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1.

Afiya

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

I like Obama…I really do…BUT…I’ll bet a paycheck that he’s being set up to fail.

2.

Elviz

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

Im glad Obama won….He got my vote on Feb. 5

3.

Ty

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

Team Obama, all th way!!!!!

4.

crystal

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

i really want him to win but i have been hearing how if he does win that he might get assassinated (sp) and i just HOPE tht is not the case i really feel that he will do great things for our country!! so sad….

5.

Vida

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

Yay! SC! Little Shout out to Charleston, SC and everyone in the 29418 zip, I was born there. I’m still not convinced about Obama, I worked in Chicago for 6 weeks back when all the slum lord scandal was in the news, and I work in real estate so it was all anyone could talk about. Plus his health care plan isn’t a good one in my mind. I also want him to quit smoking. Eww.

6.

NINABROWN (JUS KEEPIN' IT REAL IN '08)

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!

7.

ATTENTION ALL LOOP PEOPLE WHO ARE CHRISTIANS

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

Mr. Obama is our brother in Christ and the best thing that we as believers can do is pray for him, many all over the country is doing so.
That is the best thing to do, for t hose who know how to pray and believe he is in the will of God for his life.
Pray for protection for his wife and daughters and we all thank God for his endorsements and his most recent one from Caroline Kennedy posted in New York times in full and mentioned on network news.
We have also been informed that when he returns to Washington for senate business this week he will be endorsed by Senator Kennedy.
This is for fellow Christians only not for the haters…so haters please do not respond. Thank you, don’t give the devil any play today okay.
God Bless everyone at the Loop and its entire staff and young people please register and VOTE!!!!! your future is in your hands.

8.

SlickRick

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

I”m so happy for the job that you guys here at the loop are doing with keeping us informed on these issues. I think it was a great decision for you guys to get involved in politics and keeping us informed. I honestly have not been keeping up with everything that’s been going on in the news and in the papers so this has been a great help to me to stay informed. Love you guys, keep up the good work! I hope you know how much of a difference you’re making

Oh yeah, go OBAMA! lol
I hope he wins. He has a lot of haters but GOD bless him, those of us that seriously know about prayer let’s lift him up and if it’s the Father’s Will he will win and he will do a great job!

9.

SlickRick

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

See how GOD works, didn’t even see #7’s post when i posted…lol

10.

J. Lewis(My Wic Check Bounced)

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

I can see the white people now if Obama gets into office:

They going to be like ya’ll kneegrows better not complain about nothing else!! Ya’ll got a black president, your own channel(BET), scholarships, and your own month(Febuary)!

11.

@#5 and #7

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

#5 You are late he has long quit smoking. Thank you as for the rest you had to say,I don’t care to hear it, heard it already did my own research and he is not responsible for others wrongdoings.

#7 Yes, of course we will continue to pray for him, my mother and grandmother are prayer warriors and they say he is in the perfect will of God for his life and no matter what the polls or media says it is not over until God says its over.
My grandmother says the Lord has not spoken to the hearts of people to give him the money to run and has kept him in the game for no reason, she said because the mainstream media are not Christians then they have kept the Lord out of the equation and what the Clintons are doing is being used of the devil because their tactics are not of God and they don’t even know it.My grandmother lays hands on the tv screen when she hears anything negative about the Clintons stategys and is always rebuking the devil and she says the may have a strategy baby but God has a plan.
When she saw the numbers in SC she said now look at what the Lord has done, she was shouting and doing a happy dance and she cried because she said all her life she has waited to see this my grandmother is 82 years young. She taught school for 43 years and is mentally intact. she can tell you everything on CNN, etc. if its about Senator Obama.
She said you can mark it down I don’t know how the Lord is going to do but Hillary and Bill Clinton will not go back in the white house, she said God sees and hears everything and His word is true, she said it may look like folks is getting away with stuff and she said when people don’t know the word of God then t hey don’t know the will of God.
I thank God for my grandmother.

12.

Not Relevant

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

Congrats to Obama. Edwards needs to wuit while he’s ahead.

13.

Not Relevant

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

*quit while he’s waaaaay behind

14.

Not Relevant

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

J.Dakar for president!

15.

nunya

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

Folks… too many of us are prisoners of our own minds!! Stop all of this negative thinking….. Have some faith!! I’m sure many thought that Obama wouldn’t have even made it this far, but he did!!! Recognize the power of GOD.

16.

Mya

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

I read the endorsement for Senator Obama by Caroline Kennedy.
What she said was awesome and how she said it.
I sure do hope they post it here. for you guys to read, they only had a small excerpt but I read it in its entirety on another blog and I think it is in the New York Times and one of the guys on Fox tried to downplay it this guy always has something negative to say about any thing Obama.
I sure do hope you guys read it.

17.

Aries

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

I am so damn happy for Obama’s SC Win, im from Charleston S.C and I went to the polls at 9 am in the morning to give Obama my support!! OBAMA 4 PRESIDENT ‘08

18.

About Edwards

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

I was at Obamas headguarters here Friday night where Iive and somone told me that the reason why Edwards keeps running is because of health insurance his wife has cancer and she is covered under insurance ??????

19.

Aries

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

@ 16 MYA I read the endorsement by Carolina Kennedy, I thought it was great and touching what she wrote about Obama.

20.

americans for change

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

Thank you sc. Obama is the next president of the United, did I say United, Yea United States. Now California , New York, New Jersey, and the other states on 2/5/08, lets get’er done.

This is about the past vs. the future. If you are stuck in the past shame on you move out our way, move out the way, move out the way.

The future is now, the fierce urgency of now.

21.

Chinky_Brown

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

After hearing his victory speech I am more inspired than ever before! This is a man of valor and I so believe in what he says, because it’s not written down on paper or fed in his ear, he is speaking from the heart. And I’m sure GOD whispers in his ear here and there. May GOD BLESS him and his family. He is covered by the blood of Christ so there is no reason for us to fear that any wrong doings will come upon him.

“WE ARE CHOOSING HOPE OVER FEAR, WE’RE CHOOSING UNITY OVER DIVISION AND SENDING A POWERFUL MESSAGE THAT CHANGE IS COMING TO AMERICA!”

-Barack Obama

22.

Dina-Bmore

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

My fellow loopers….A CHANGE IS GONNA COME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Believe That:)

23.

Young, Gifted and Black

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

To be honest, when I first heard that Barack Obama would run for the office of the presidency, I was not convinced. I just did not think that America was ready for a person of color to be President. With this recent win in South Carolina, I am beginning to believe that he has a shot. I think that America is ready for a change. I know that I am. Also, I wanted to say thank you Concreteloop for adding this political component to your entertainment news! It’s a very good look!

24.

Stephanie

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

My mama said the same t hing today after church, we had a special prayer for Mr.Obama. She said people have made Gods out of the Clintons and put them on pedestals they walk around talking about what the Clintons did for them giving the Lord no glory or credit and the media talking about how powerful they are and she said there is only one true power and that is God who made heaven and earth.
She said the earth belongs to the Lord and all and they that dwell in it and the white house does not belong to the Clintons and it doesn’t matter what they schem the Lord sets people in authority and he doesn’t do it like man does He looks at the heart.
She said it is the Lord and He alone who can take people off of their thrones.
She said Bill Clinton and know one else should be continuing to remind anone that Mr.Obama is black, the Lord made as such and he knew it when He spoke to his heart to stand and take courage and run for this office, the Lord knew that Mr.Obama would have oppostion because he knows everything before we do.
My mom says you young folk need to get out there and vote and SC is showing you all that WE CAN DO THIS!!!! She said the Lord has given us a chance to make history and we can if we will believe and do our part.

25.

MW09

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

LOL @ J. Lewis’ comment. I was very excited when I heard that he won by such a large margin against that conniving Hilary. If Barack wouldn’t have gotten 81% percent of the black vote in SC there would’ve been a problem LOL.

OBAMA ‘08

26.

vjhe

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

Let us not forget the Clintons are CHRISTIANS as well. The Obama’s have been attacking the Clinton’s AS WELL. People criticized Clinton for bringing up Obama’s relationship with a Chicago slum lord but they conveniently leave out the fact her response was a reaction to him attacking her FIRST. The next day, the headlines (including black radio stations) were posted as simply, “Clinton Attacks Obama”, despite him attacking her first.

Yes, I believe Hillary twisted Obama’s words about Reagan, but Obama twisted her words about Martin Luther King, but people don’t see that. They just focus on Hillary. That is a problem for me because it makes me feel Obama is getting a pass, when he shouldn’t. That is the kind of thing that scares me about this election.

And speaking of pedestals, how can poster #24 say the Clinton’s have been put on a pedestal, and not Barack Obama (anyone remember Newsweek had a huge picture of him on the cover with a halo over his head?).

I like Obama, I just don’t believe he is being held to the same standard as everyone else. The media WANTS Obama to win and that bias may come back to haunt us all.

And by the way, Poster # 10 is exactly right.

27.

tasha

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

I knew my state would stand up and show everyone else in the nation that we not only changed our political views, but we appreciate a candidate worthy of making my grandparents leave their home as early as six’ o clock to get to the polls. Boy, We’ve come a long way, but still have so far to go. OBAMA FOR CHANGE. SC STAND UP!!!

28.

clarkthink

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

My people see, if we vote there is no stopping the Obama express :-)

29.

morena

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

I’m very happy to hear about the Obama win. I’m not american nor do i live in america but this election is watched by the whole world. Whatever the outcome is, it will affect more than just the United States. It affect all of us.

30.

PRISTINE

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

very blessed comments no. 7 and no. 8. God willing, Obama will continue to get the highest percentage of votes in the primaries. Particularly, on Super Tuesday, and long after the primaries come to and end.

31.

younghustla

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

OBAMA in 2008!!! I truly believe that he will win it all and is the best chance for America to get it right this time around.

#1 can go jump off of a damn cliff. The Obama train in riding full speed ahead over house ninjas like you.

32.

SEXYREDD

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

I got to hera Obama today when he visited in Birmingham, AL. I was already voting for him because I like his platform; but after hearing him today, I am voting for him also because he is passionate about his vision of new politics in America!!! He said he was raised to have HOPE and that’s is what he has for this country, HOPE to get us out of the situation we are in now towards a better future and he is not afraid.

Obama spoke for about an hour. He was extremely down to earth and cracked jokes and said things like don’t get “bamboozled” or “hit with the okie doke” when listening to these people say what they think America wants to hear; he is going to say “what America needs to hear and that is the truth”

Today was a great experience for me hearing him speak; I’d never been in a situation to hear a politician speak about their platform and its something that I found so exciting and his passion brought cheers all over the arena!!!

TEAM OBAMA ALL THE WAY!!!
Side Note: Today was opened by a prayer from a white pastor of a mixed race church who called himself a “reformed RACIST”; he said back then, he never would’ve imagined endorsing a black presidential candidate.

33.

SEXYREDD

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

ahhh…HEAR should be that second word!

34.

BO0GZ KNOS BE$T

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

congratz to my big bro O

“we in da houseee” (rocboys voice)

35.

TIA

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

WHY CAN’T BLACK PEOPLE STICK TOGETHER

36.

Truth Seeker

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

EVERYONE PLEEEEASE VOTE FEB. 5TH IF YOUR STATE HAS A PRIMARY!! IT’S UP TO THE YOUTH!!!

37.

Aikes

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

38.

obama08

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

I WATCH LAST NIGHT AND HE MADE ME SO HAPPY AS A BLACK MAN AND AS A MAN PERIOD OF GOD HE IS WHAT IV BEEN WAITING FOR A BREATH OF FRESH AIR I;V BEEN WAITING TO EXHALE AND I FINALLY CAN OBAMA 08

39.

My heart beat plays his favorite song

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

GET IT GET IT GET IT OBAMA! KEEP THE MOMENTUM GOING! I’M ROOTING FOR U!!!

40.

sfsinger

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

We still need more information about his policies as well the other candidates. I am glad the dirt got blown back at the Clintons. They have ties to Rezko [the slum landlord] as well. A photo was first posted on the Drudge report and has since been circulated. The Kennedy endorsement will be helpful as that represents support from the party hierarchy. I hope Obama didn’t have to give up something to get it. Perhaps an Obama/Edwards ticket is in the works? Either way Obama is not the “Magic Negro’ to answer all the ills of society. The Senate and Congress can be helpful or not in implementing change. We see how the Democrats bent over to Bush on Iraq and are trying to do it with FISA. WE have to keep on these politician’s butts to make sure our needs are addressed and our voices heard. Black women tipped the scales in Obama’s favor in SC. I don’t want to see another beauty salon interview in my lifetime or go back to being ignored. And I am still reminded of a quote by W.E.B. DuBois: “The two parties have combined against us to nullify our power by a ‘gentleman’s agreement’ of non-recognition, no matter how we vote … May God write us down as asses if ever again we are found putting our trust in either the Republican or the Democratic Parties.” So again, whoever gets the nomination and the ‘wins’ the election [let's make certain it's legit this time] needs to be held accountable.

41.

Nikki Dai

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

Obama is not being scrutinized in the way Billary is because he hasn’t run his campaign like her. Barack isn’t about dividing the Democratic base at all costs just to win the nomination. He didn’t bring race into this. As late as yesterday we still have Bill “the first black prez” answering a question that wasn’t even asked and comparing Barack with Jesse. Bill and Hillary and their surrogates put all the negativity out there and media covered that. Obama hasn’t even touched on half that mess so he doesn’t get any mud on him. Bill is doing a good job of it all with Hillary running for VP.

With regards to SC, he got a great chunk of the black vote but he couldn’t win with just the black vote. He got about 24% of the white vote, primarily males, but his total of votes was more than Hillary and Edwards’ combined. Whenever he’s lost it’s been by small percentage points to Hillary. When she loses to Barack as in Iowa, it’s major. Good signs.

42.

silly_rabbit

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

You go boy…

The fear of assassination should not get in the way of his fight for the presidency…fear doesn’t get anybody anywhere.

43.

EMILY

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

Thanks CL for all that you do! You all are doing such a great job!!! :)

Keep up the good work!! :)

YEA #14 I agree!! (LOL) :)

44.

OBAMA4PRES

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

I was like some people at first I was OBAMA who? I must admit I was blinded by the CLINTON name. I have spent some time at he website and I llike what his plans are . What’s important to me I like what he has to say. I say go OBAMA. I also enjoyed reading the OP-ED piece by Carolyn Kennedy over at NYTIMES.com check it out if you haven’t.

45.

OBAMA4PRES

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

January 27, 2008
Op-Ed Contributor
A President Like My Father

By CAROLINE KENNEDY
OVER the years, I’ve been deeply moved by the people who’ve told me they wished they could feel inspired and hopeful about America the way people did when my father was president. This sense is even more profound today. That is why I am supporting a presidential candidate in the Democratic primaries, Barack Obama.

My reasons are patriotic, political and personal, and the three are intertwined. All my life, people have told me that my father changed their lives, that they got involved in public service or politics because he asked them to. And the generation he inspired has passed that spirit on to its children. I meet young people who were born long after John F. Kennedy was president, yet who ask me how to live out his ideals.

Sometimes it takes a while to recognize that someone has a special ability to get us to believe in ourselves, to tie that belief to our highest ideals and imagine that together we can do great things. In those rare moments, when such a person comes along, we need to put aside our plans and reach for what we know is possible.

We have that kind of opportunity with Senator Obama. It isn’t that the other candidates are not experienced or knowledgeable. But this year, that may not be enough. We need a change in the leadership of this country — just as we did in 1960.

Most of us would prefer to base our voting decision on policy differences. However, the candidates’ goals are similar. They have all laid out detailed plans on everything from strengthening our middle class to investing in early childhood education. So qualities of leadership, character and judgment play a larger role than usual.

Senator Obama has demonstrated these qualities throughout his more than two decades of public service, not just in the United States Senate but in Illinois, where he helped turn around struggling communities, taught constitutional law and was an elected state official for eight years. And Senator Obama is showing the same qualities today. He has built a movement that is changing the face of politics in this country, and he has demonstrated a special gift for inspiring young people — known for a willingness to volunteer, but an aversion to politics — to become engaged in the political process.

I have spent the past five years working in the New York City public schools and have three teenage children of my own. There is a generation coming of age that is hopeful, hard-working, innovative and imaginative. But too many of them are also hopeless, defeated and disengaged. As parents, we have a responsibility to help our children to believe in themselves and in their power to shape their future. Senator Obama is inspiring my children, my parents’ grandchildren, with that sense of possibility.

Senator Obama is running a dignified and honest campaign. He has spoken eloquently about the role of faith in his life, and opened a window into his character in two compelling books. And when it comes to judgment, Barack Obama made the right call on the most important issue of our time by opposing the war in Iraq from the beginning.

I want a president who understands that his responsibility is to articulate a vision and encourage others to achieve it; who holds himself, and those around him, to the highest ethical standards; who appeals to the hopes of those who still believe in the American Dream, and those around the world who still believe in the American ideal; and who can lift our spirits, and make us believe again that our country needs every one of us to get involved.

I have never had a president who inspired me the way people tell me that my father inspired them. But for the first time, I believe I have found the man who could be that president — not just for me, but for a new generation of Americans.

Caroline Kennedy is the author of “A Patriot’s Handbook: Songs, Poems, Stories and Speeches Celebrating the Land We Love.”

46.

Onemil02

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

You know I respect everyone’s opinion on who they want to vote for and all. But reading some of you all comments show that the majority of you are backing Obama for the wrong reasons. One person said he is “inspirational” and it’s time for a change. I have yet to hear or read any of Obama’s plans on change or anything of that nature. I haven’t read or heard any of his plans on certain issues troubling the US right now and how he is going to solve certain problems. Obama seems to be a really good motivational speaker and can get people fired up, but ask yourself once question, What’s is his change what is he going to do??? I haven’t heard it yet, and that is what troubles me about him. Everything Hillary has been asked, she gives an answer and good answers at that. All I say is people look at the issues and not race. And as far as Caroline Kennedy and Ted Kennedy endorsing Obama, it’s funny how the media is failing to mention that three other Kennedy’s are endorsing Clinton, and I just read that on cnnpolitics.com. Obama won South Carolina, and probably will win Georgia and Alabama. But in reality he is going to crushed on Super Tuesday. Another thing before I end my post, people are forgetting too Blacks are no longer the biggest minority in the US anymore, it’s the Latinos. And Hillary won Nevada and had most of the Latin vote. They are being forgot about in the race to the white house and Obama can’t get the nomination alone with just the Black vote.

Hillary 2008!

47.

Leonna

Sunday, January 27, 2008 /

Yes, Obama! The race is far from over, but this was definitely a good, solid win for him. We had a discussion about him in one of my classes, and as I had to point out to one of my classmates, who likes Obama, but isn’t sure she’ll vote for him because she things America is not “ready” for a President of color, that’s the most tired excuse in the book, and people have been using it since Jesse Jackson ran. If we waited for America to get “ready” for a black President, we’d wait our whole lives, because there will always be someone opposed to it. We can’t wait for change, we have to make change happen. I’m a proud Obama supporter.

I have nothing against Hillary Clinton, but I think she’s dug herself a bit of a hole, or rather, she let her husband do the digging. I think her campaign would benefit from Bill doing a little less speaking, because all of the latest tension between her and Obama was caused by things he said, and for people who thought that her winning would just be a way of having Bill back in the White House, they’re probably seeing that as further confirmation (I mean, did anyone notice that after the votes were in, it was Bill, not Hillary, who gave the speech? What was that about?) Not to mention, if you’re going to bring up someone’s ties to a slum lord, you probably shouldn’t have ties to them as well.

48.

OBAMA4PRES

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

One MIl you can find information about his campaign at BarackObama.com.

49.

OBAMA4PRES

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

Oh yea and I did see where Hillary is being endorsed by some of the other Kennedy’s at NYTIMES.com but two years ago Ethel Kennedy said that she thinks Obama could be president.

50.

Onemil02

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

She is being endorsed by Bobby, Kerry, and Kathleen. I have checked out his site, still doesn’t say as much and I hear and like from Hillary. I’m sorry I just think she is the one to lead in the right direction and fix this mess George Bush has made. Wait until super tuesday she is going to crush him. She had NY, Cali, New Jersey, Florida, Colorado, basically all the west on lock.

51.

Nikki Dai

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

Endorsements are reported as they come in. The media is reporting on Caroline/Ted because it’s recent. The other Kennedy’s endorsements came in last year.

52.

Onemil02

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

But Obama4pres, I respect your opinion and if you think Obama is the man, that’s good. I just think Hillary is the right person (woman) for the job.

53.

Latane

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

Congrats to Obama on the South Carolina win, not much of a surprise there since he had the support of the black community. The one thing that has been bothering me a lot during this election is the biased coverage that it has received from the media. Concrete Loop has done a fairly decent job reporting on the election but so called professional journalism such as CNN and Fox News are so pro-Obama. It is unfair when voters should have to decide who to vote for and we get certain people shoved down our throats.

Obama won on the strong black vote in the state, but that doesn’t mean it will translate during Feb. 5th because black voters make up such a small percentage of the overall voting population and Obama’s support from whites have decreased after his attacks on the Clintons.

I still think Hillary will get the nomination, South Carolina has been notoriously wrong when deciding a Presidential nominee on the Democratic side, they vote based on reasons such as race (Obama and Jesse Jackson) and on hometown affiliation (Edwards in 2004).

Also someone mentioned about Obama and the possibility of assassination, as much as that is something that we don’t want to think about, the sad truth is that racism is very much still alive and strong in this country and there are some crazy people that would not like the idea of having Obama as president. I would pray that something like that never happens.

54.

widz

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

i am not american,i live in england.i think obam has run a good and admirable campaign.the clintons will probably win only because they have cleverely turn this into a race issue and there are alot of whites add latrinos to blacks ,but here is the problem hillery cant win without a lot of african americans comin out to vote ,because she is not lovedd by independents and no republican will evfr vote for her even if latinos vote for her.
reason she is hated by republicans those not feeling like backing the crop of candidates this time on their side will come out just to make sure Hillery loses and with few afrcan americans she will lose everything in the south and no one wins presidency without at least takin somethin from the south.

so ,wat remains to be seen is the racial overtones being used apsets the blacks or like before the clintons will offer a subtle aplogy after Hillery wins and gullible blacks take it becoz if they stand against it then foget a democratic victory.Hillery might try and call obama to be vice president then again it depends how far they go personal on him if he accepts the hillery will win because she would have a crowd puller of new voters and a whole lot of african americans,

as for latinos they are actin up coz he is black they foget if blacks decides to return the favour they wont back Hillery and we all know whats gonna happen to latino illegals once republicans retain the seat.

55.

widz

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

never mind typo errors u get the picture if u smart enough

56.

NICEY

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

OBAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

57.

Vida

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

#11 If your convinced good for you. I just said I wasn’t. I worked with people who’d worked with him and they had no words good or bad.

Oh and he’s quitting, that was his new years resolution.

Opinions are like a$$holes, everybody has one. Step back.

58.

ANGEL_MINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

Okay, I haven’t even read the comments but I’m already sure what most of them say, ‘Obama ‘08′! SMH, black ppl are a trip! Do you honestly believe that Obama is gonna win the pres primaries because of 2 states? LMAO! Folks let’s keep in mind that there will be 52 states voting…and uhhh…I’ll bet my paycheck that Obama will not win.
Now please, don’t come aftrer me w/ those crabs in a barrel comments, b/c they don’t apply to me.
I think Barack is a charming charismatic gentleman, but at the same time, I’m a realist and I don’t believe that he’ll be able to successfully lead this country. It’s not his time right now, I think in a bout 5-8 years, he’ll be ready…but not right now.

59.

ThinkAboutIt

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

The win in SC is good for Barack, the endorsements of the Kennedys is more significant.

The Kennedys have a strong political legacy in this country and up to this point, they always supported the Clintons. This endorsement even more so than Kerry’s is really shaking up the Clinton camp… BUT, like I said before, the focus should be on the issues - who has a better plan.

The country is in bad shape, it’s gonna take more than talk, and reputation to get us out of this.

60.

gluvnast

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

ANGEL_MINDED
Monday, January 28, 2008
Okay, I haven’t even read the comments but I’m already sure what most of them say, ‘Obama ‘08′! SMH, black ppl are a trip! Do you honestly believe that Obama is gonna win the pres primaries because of 2 states? LMAO! Folks let’s keep in mind that there will be 52 states voting…and uhhh…I’ll bet my paycheck that Obama will not win.
Now please, don’t come aftrer me w/ those crabs in a barrel comments, b/c they don’t apply to me.
I think Barack is a charming charismatic gentleman, but at the same time, I’m a realist and I don’t believe that he’ll be able to successfully lead this country. It’s not his time right now, I think in a bout 5-8 years, he’ll be ready…but not right now.
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@ angel_minded,

you ARE playing the crabs in the bucket mentality….whut difference from 4-8 years going to make??? whut are you waiting for? i have never heard of a leader saying i’ll wait until my creditials are up to lead people. i have never heard MLK at age 26 saying, i’m too young to lead these people to boycott, they will doubt me!!! it’s that insecure mentality that needs to be broken! i can understand if you don’t support obama because you disagree with his ideas…but i will never accept this sad notion that someone isn’t “ready” to lead!!! to become a leader isn’t something that you have to raise up the ladder to get, or have to prove past experience…a leader is someone that believes in pushing people to an united agenda! nobody asked jesus at age 30 whut was his creditials! jesus said to the disciples, “follow me” and they did!

the time is NOW! it’s always NOW! all it takes is someone with the balls to motivate all of us to come as one! stop waiting and hoping for tomorrow and do whut you believe is best today! obama’s is ready just as much as ANY canidate out there is ready…there’s no such thing as not ready to lead! the question you should be asking is who we NEED today…obama isn’t going to be any different NOW vs. tomorrow

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British Black girl

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

Although I am half way across the world ..I am incresingly becoming more supportive of Obama…here is an e-mail cirulating offices in London:

A March 12, 2007 article written by acclaimed Washington columnist Robert Novak sheds a very revealing light on the true sentiment of Hillary Clinton during the peak of the Civil Rights Movement. Clinton recently was found to have minimized the greatand monumental strides taken by Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. by stating that it was Lyndon B. Johnson, then president, who should receive the credit for the civil rights progress including the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

In an attempt to attract black support Hillary Clinton regularly shares her ‘civil rights experience’ during every speech given to black audiences. Novak writes of one such speech at Selma’s First Baptist Church on the 42nd anniversary of the “bloody Sunday” freedom march there, where Sen. Clinton declared: “As a young woman, I had the great privilege of hearing Dr. King speak in Chicago. The year was 1963. My youth minister from our church took a few of us down on a cold January night to hear [King]. . . . And he called on us, he challenged us that evening to stay awake during the great revolution that the civil rights pioneers were waging on behalf of a more perfect union.” But Novak’s article states that there’s a big problem with her
statement.

The fact is, in 1963, not only was Hillary Clinton a republican, but she was also a staunch supporter of republican Senator Barry Goldwater, well known as a segregationist and one of the most vocal senators adamantly against the passing of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which is why he lost in his presidential bid to Lyndon B. Johnson. Novak writes “…how then could she be a ‘Goldwater Girl’ in the next year’s presidential election?” He continues, “…she described herself in her memoirs as ‘an active Young Republican’ and ‘a Goldwater girl, right down to my cowgirl outfit.’

Novak adds, “As a politically attuned honour student, she must have known that Goldwater was one of only six Republican senators who joined Southern Democratic segregationists opposing the historic voting rights act of 1964 inspired by King. Hillary headed the Young Republicans at Wellesley College. The incompatibility of those two positions of 40 years ago was noted to me(Novak) by Democratic old-timers who were shocked by Sen. Clinton’s temerity in pursuing her presidential candidacy.” Novak adds, “What Hillary Clinton said at Selma is significant because it betrays her campaign’s panicky reaction to the unexpected rise of Sen. Obama as a serious competitor for the Democratic nomination.

Clinton’s plans were transformed by the advent of Obama, an African-American threatening the hard allegiance of black voters forged by Bill Clinton. On one hand, the Clinton campaign has attacked Obama and his supporters. On the other hand, she has sought to solidify her civil rights credentials.

While Clinton was re-inventing her past, her road to the White House is not going as planned. Instead of a steady procession to coronation at the Denver convention, she is involved in a real struggle against credible opponents led by Obama. No wonder she and her handlers were tempted to imply the existence long ago of a young lady in Chicago’s suburbs who never really existed.”

We greatly appreciate Mr. Novak’s findings which bring one main thought to mind. Wake up Black America! DON’T BE FOOLED ! The fact is, despite her falsehoods, Hillary was AGAINST the passing of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 that Dr. Martin Luther King died for. As a ‘Goldwater Girl’ she was actually even against Lyndon B. Johnson, the very person she now gives the credit to for Dr. King getting to the mountaintop. She has worked extremely hard to hide many truths about her past, including ordering that her 92 page college thesis that she wrote at Wellesley College be ’sealed’ and unavailable to the public, an order forced upon the college by Bill Clinton while president, although all senior thesis’ at Wellesley have been available for public reading for over 100 years, except one….Hillary Rodham Clinton’s.

Reports have stated that information in her ’secret thesis’ could be the ‘Swift Boat’ ammo to be used by the Republican Party against her should she become the nominee. (read more about ’secret thesis’ at MSNBC)

62.

Bussi

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

Black folk are always screaming about equality. Many of you were told “Yes, you can be anything you want, even President of the United States!” Black children all over the U.S. have been told and are being told the same thing. Black people cry about Black History month, talking about how it’s ONLY one month..and the shortest month at that! You know it’s funny how when there is a viable BLACK MAN running for the presidency, so many black people want to hold him back. Do you really think Hilary or any other candidate will do soooooo much better than Barack? Based on what? On what the media is telling you? Wake up people! What are you gonna tell all of those little black boys and girls? You can have an Ivy league education, have a prestigious career, even be a Congressman, but don’t you even think about being President of the U.S……I don’t care what we’ve all been telling you!” Yeah, that’s a real positive, hypocritical message! It seems like you guys will give Hilary a chance based on her living in the White House and being married to Bill! Or just because she older than Hilary! COME ON PEOPLE!! And all of this talk about experience! Hell, Barack had enough experience to start his campaign from scratch last year, and build it up to what it is today! He didn’t need to be married to a former President to do it either! Take those shackles off your brains PEOPLE! It’s obvious some of you aren’t thinking clearly….or even at all!

63.

Djimon Won

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

Change gone come

Obama 08

64.

ANGEL_MINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

@ #60

First off, let me explain something to you. I think Obama and Hilary both share the same views and ideas to lead this country. However, the one thing that separates them both is ‘experience’ now whether you agree or disagree w/ Hilary’s experience is something different all together.
As I’ve stated before, I think Obama is intelligent, charismatic, and articulate. However, it takes more than these things to lead an entire nation! Now you can say what you want about how crooked Bill/Hilary’s time in office was, but at the same time, I have never recalled ANYONE black complaining or boycotting during his time office! Now all of sudden everybody and they mama is googling all this negative ish about the Clinton’s time in office? Oh hell naw! Where the hell was all this negativity towards the Clintons during the ’90s? I believe that a large percentage of blacks are not only bias but also racist! In the state that our nations in, we need someone who has had experience in the white house and politics, that can come into the presidency w/ out needing time to adjust…and I think Obama will need an adjustment period to get use to leading a nation…especially since he’s a little wet behind the ears.

65.

Bussi

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

HILARY CLINTON HAS NO EXPERIENCE IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!!!!! SHE WAS ONLY MARRIED TO BILL CLINTON!!!!!! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU! WHEN HILARY RAN FOR THE SENATE, WERE YOU OPPOSED TO THAT, TOO? BECAUSE SHE WAS NEW TO THAT? DID SHE HAVE TOO LITTLE EXPERIENCE TO RUN FOR THE SENATE? WHAT HAS SHE ACTUALLY DONE FOR YOU PERSONALLY!! YOU DOUBT OBAMA, BECAUSE HE’S YOUNG, FRESH, AND HAS NEW IDEAS! BUT, YOU SUPPORT HILARY BECAUSE SHE’S OLD AND EXPERIENCED? WHAT CAN SHE DO THAT OBAMA CAN’T DO? AND YOU ACTUALLY THINK HE CAN’T DO A BETTER JOB THAN BUSH!!!!!!!! COME ON!! GIMME A BREAK!!!!!!!

66.

coop1974a

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

I think that Edwards, Hilary and Obama can do a great job but the only one with a chance of winning against the GOP is Edwards.

67.

coop1974a

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

In 1964, Barry Goldwater became the first Republican to win the state of South Carolina since Reconstruction. Since then, South Carolina has voted for a Republican in every presidential election from 1964 to 2004, with the exception of 1976 when Jimmy Carter, from neighboring Georgia, won the state over Gerald Ford. George W. Bush won the state in 2004 with 58% of the statewide vote over Senator John Kerry. Republicans now control the governorate, eight of nine statewide offices, both houses of legislature, both U.S. Senators, and four of six members of the U.S. House of Representatives. Knowledge of history helps people make better political choices.

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ANGEL_MINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

@ 65

Excuse me…lol!

Running for Senate is nothing compared to, being responsible for 300+ million Americans and they’re future. So you’ll have to excuse me if I don’t trust a rookie w/ these responsiblities. LOL - and furthermore, to answer your question, Hilary has done a lot for me as both a woman and an African American. She’s initiated many programs that benefit women/single mothers…all implemenated in the early 90’s. She’s established tutiton reimbursement programs…so my question to you is, what has Obama done for you? What has he done personally that has you all rowdied up and talking/speaking in caps for? Lol - I think many black people are gonna find that Obama will not be taking care of problems that directly affect them as his top priority.

As I’ve said before, I don’t recall this type of outrage during Clintons entire presidency. The only reason why blacks are now all of a sudden ‘outraged’ is because they know that a black man is the Clinton’s competition. Negroe puhleezzee get over yourself!

69.

Have Not Thought of a New User Name

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

I am so happy

Congrats to Obama !!!!!

70.

I never comment

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

My sentiments exactly Angel_Minded. Nobody had anything negative to say about the “First Black Family” for 16 years, now all of a sudden they want to call them everything but a child of God. So fickle.

71.

velvetj

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

The Emperor Has No Clothes…..will this be the case for Obama?

Though I support Hillary, all of you Obama supporters should be OUTRAGED about the obvious media bias in his favor. Both Clinton and Obama attack each other, yet the headlines are “Clinton attacks Obama”. Both Clinton and Obama twists each others words, yet the headlines read, “Clinton twists Obama’s words”. Both Clinton and Obama try to use race as an issue, and the headlines read, “Clinton uses race to divide”. These types of things end up hurting us all.

The Clinton’s have been two of the most beloved people in the black community for years, now all of a sudden some in the black community view them as racists?

Will the Emperor have any clothes? NOW is the time to find out.

72.

LOL

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

@ 46 ONEMIL02:

It kills me when you obvious drones on come in here and spew your patronizing nonsense. If you want to know what Obama’s plans are, GO TO HIS WEBSITE AND READ. I’m under the presumption that you’re literate.

It’s funny how you try to reduce a solid candidate to an “inspirational speaker” and insult the intelligence of people by claiming they vote solely based on race. If you think that being a boring, self-serving, and stale robot of the status quo beats being “inspirational,” then you know absolutely nothing about leadership.

What you geniuses don’t understand is that we can exactly tell who you are as soon as we read your first line.

73.

velvetj

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

And furthermore The Mayor of Atlanta (Shirley Franklin), showed NO CLASS last week.

74.

WOW

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

@ LATANE.. pardon my language but you sound like an idiot.

75.

velvetj

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

Something else that I found interesting is, Obama almost gloats about “Change” and “New” ways of doing things, yet he actually COURTS and now relishes in an endorsement by one of the oldest people in Congress, Ted Kennedy. Yeah, he wants to get rid of the “Old ways” yet seeks out Kennedy’s support?

And those placing so much in Caroline Kennedy’s words, have the nerve to criticize the Clinton’s for trying to win at any cost, yet will not mention the ABSOLUTE SHAMELESS DIRTY TRICKS used by her grandfather to get her father elected.

And like someone else mentioned, Clinton received the endorsement of 3 other Kennedy’s , yet that is hardly mentioned by the biased media.

76.

LOL

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

@ ANGEL_MINDED,

You haven’t read the comments but you’re sure what they say. That real smart sweetie, pat yourself on the back

77.

bill

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

An Open letter to BET Founder Bob Johnson January 15, 2008

Dear Bob,
The comments you in made in your attack against Sen. Obama this past
Sunday at a South Carolina church before you introduced Sen. Hillary
Clinton demonstrates that it doesn’t matter how much money you have,
money cannot buy class or dignity.

Bob, while you were shucking, grinning and jiving in front of the
Clintons, are you that stupid that you didn’t care that you came across as a
bootlicking Uncle Tom? Your attack on Sen. Obama continues to prove how ruthless
you continue to be.

In your own words which I will now quote you: “As an African American,
I am frankly insulted the Obama campaign would imply that we are so stupid that
we would think Hillary and Bill Clinton, who have been deeply and emotionally
involved in black issues” when Barack Obama was doing something in the
neighborhood; I won’t say what he was doing, but he said it in his book” when
they have been involved,” Johnson said.

We all know that Sen. Obama wrote about his teenage drug use with marijuana,
and alcohol in his memoir ‘Dreams from My Father.’ That’s old news. Bob, for you
to attack Sen. Obama’s character shows what a coon you really are. Bob, you are
the founder of BET which is the laughing stock of African Americans who care
about positive images. Yes, you are successful as a capitalist but a complete failure in
having any morals and any help whatsoever towards supporting your own race.

The fact that Sen. Clinton or anyone would want or accept your
endorsement is appalling and for me calls their basic character, let alone
judgment, into question. Over the last 25 years you and BET have done more to
propagate some of the most harmful, destructive, and degradation of African Americans
in the history of popular culture.

The booty shaking videos, misogyny, gangsterism, violence, alcohol and
drug use you allowed to air on BET on your way to becoming a billionaire was all
done for the love of money. And now YOU want to take cheap shots at Sen. Obama?

I am constantly amazed at how you are allowed to speak and move in decent
society. But, I guess in your case, money triumphs morals. After seeing you put
on your best Stephen Fetchit routine this Sunday in front of Sen. Clinton as she sat back
and enjoyed campaigning with you, I can understanding a lot better why our country,
black, white, latino, and others are supporting and calling for Sen. Obama and change!

Signed,
Najee Ali Founder
Executive Director
Project Islamic HOPE

78.

ANGEL_MINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

@ 76

When I wrote my comment on #58 I had not read any of the prior comments…b/c I already know what ignorance sounds like…and thanks for the shout out, I’ll be sure to pat myself on the back now… :)

79.

gluvnast

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

velvetj
Monday, January 28, 2008
Something else that I found interesting is, Obama almost gloats about “Change” and “New” ways of doing things, yet he actually COURTS and now relishes in an endorsement by one of the oldest people in Congress, Ted Kennedy. Yeah, he wants to get rid of the “Old ways” yet seeks out Kennedy’s support?

And those placing so much in Caroline Kennedy’s words, have the nerve to criticize the Clinton’s for trying to win at any cost, yet will not mention the ABSOLUTE SHAMELESS DIRTY TRICKS used by her grandfather to get her father elected.

And like someone else mentioned, Clinton received the endorsement of 3 other Kennedy’s , yet that is hardly mentioned by the biased media.
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now that’s pure hate!

80.

bill

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

I don’t want (or mean to) misrepresent.
I didn’t write that letter (comment # 77)

Najee Ali wrote it

More about Najee Ali

Project Islamic H.O.P.E, is a 501 C3 Non-profit national civil rights organization that works collectively with other ethnic and religious groups to stand on the frontlines in the war against poverty, hunger and social injustice. The H.O.P.E. is an acronym that stands for Helping Oppressed People Everywhere. Most people have heard of Project Hope because of their controversial and outspoken Founder and Co-Director Najee Ali.

Ali is a former convict and ex-Crip gang member from South Central L.A. Ali changed his life around in prison after becoming a Muslim. He was inspired to start Project Hope after watching the news and hearing that NBA star, Latrell Sprewell had choked his coach, PJ Carlesiimo. Ali didn’t think that the NBA handed out a stiff enough penalty and this confirmed his belief that stars get special treatment in this society. http://www.projectislamichope.org/NewsClips.asp

Fast forward 6 years to today and the Men’s support Group; Civil Rights Advocacy organization has chapters in Georgia and Chicago. http://www.projectislamichope.org

81.

LOL

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

# 68 ANGEL_MINDED, oh we get it. You’re calling a grown man a rookie wet behind the ears because you lack the ability to raise a nuclear family. Ok buddy. And for your information, I am black and was outraged at Clinton’s foreign policy during his second term. You’re way ahead of yourself in your presumptions. Your sound like a brain-dead self hater.

82.

ANGEL_MINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

@ 81

So I’m a self hater b/c I acknowledge the faults of a black man? Hmmm..WOW, now I think I’m OUTRAGED…lol!

Raising a nuclear family? LOL - I’m sorry am I missing the joke?

Lol, the point is, is that Bill had a high approval rating amongnst blacks which is why he was referred to as the first black president. Now you say you didn’t approve of Clinton, his second term? I sincerly doubt that…but whatever…:)

Black people are so ignorant, which is why the media can easily manipulate you into doing exactly what they want. As soon as the media headline read, ‘Clinton Attacks Obama,’ or ‘Clinton Bashes MLK,’ black folks go on the defense instead of thinking for themselves.

83.

bill

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

Why Obama Won South Carolina
Increased Turnout Among Young And New Voters, Desire For Change Fueled Obama’s Victory

http://www.cbsnews.com/st...olitics/main3757059.shtml

84.

Onemil02

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

Angel_minded and Velvet J I’m with you, there black people are not reading between the lines. First of all @ LOL, I DON’T LIVE IN THE CLOUDS or LIVE IN DREAMS, I LIVE IN REALITY. You can talk all day about “change” and “New Era” but what exactly is your change?? I have nothing against Barack. I agree with someone, he is very enthusiastic and inspirational, but I need know what are you going to do exactly. He is in over his head. Velvet J you are not the first to say how the media is manipulating everything. even though I am watching the news on cnn now and one of Obama’s main supporters was arrested for conspricary and some other stuff HMMMMM?? But overall they are trying their best to sling mud on the Clintons, but everything they are doing Obama is al well as you have said. To put it bluntly, the Republicans don’t want none of HIllary, they know she will mop the floor with them. They want Obama to get the nomination to secure an easy win the election in november. CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, all of them are a lot of conservative Republicans and I think a lot of you on this board and other blacks need to look at that. And like I said before, the Latino vote is being forgotten. And who do you guys think they are going to vote for??

85.

JUDAH

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

This process is very entertaining and I think that both Obama and Hillary Clinton should be given late Academy Award consideration. I notice that the Republican electoral process is not receiving a fraction of the media attention of the “democratic” one, and it seems that there is an intent to create a 3-ring circus atmosphere around the “democratic” proceedings. I just find it strange that the Clintons have gone from the first “honorary black family” in the White House to opportunistic thieves, lol. Either they were always opportunistic thieves or they’re still the “first honorary black family”. Where’s the loyalty from all the black people that stood and cheered when Bill Clinton came to Harlem? The reason why Obama is receiving so much “posititve media attention”, in my opinion, is because he’s being set up to look like a viable foil to the powers that be’s anointed, Hillary Clinton. The white man loves drama, and these are dramatic times. The 2008 election must be as dramatic and theatrical as can be conjured so that the passions of the people can be stirred and that energy can be translated into some sort of nationalistic fervor or patriotism. I love when black people speak about America and the dictates of the U.S. government and use the term “we”, lol, as if Bush’s (or any other president’s) policies are going to be affected by what black people want. Lastly, I’ve never understood black people that assert that you are a “crab in a barrel black” if you do not vote for Obama. That has to be explained because, to me, either you’re voting for the “best candidate” or you’re not. There is no room for racial allegiance and voting based on race in the American electoral process( allegedly). In my opinion when you cast your vote and put all your hope and faith in a “candidate” to assist you, you are an American, devoid of color, lineage, language, etc. This is how one knows that black people don’t know what the hell they want or why they want it. There’s more consistency in the outright house negro coon that believes that “color doesn’t matter” than alot of these quasi/pseudo/”pro-black” negroes that want to force their vain idealism on everyone else.

86.

ANGEL_MINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

@ 84 & 85

Cosign completely!!!! Thank-you!

87.

bill

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

People are asking “What does Barack Obama Stand for”

well, hopefully this website can answer some of your questions:

“The Blueprint for Change”
“Obama’s Plan for America”

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

88.

CLEARMINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

Go OBAMA ‘08! The Kennedy endorsements were very poignant. Only time will tell how much effect they will have, but it’s undeniable that Ted Kennedy has deep connections with the Hispanic community. Further, today a very prominent California latino endorsed Obama as well. This is not minor. These are valuable *connections* (read: money, influence, perspective) that are lining up for Obama.

There is nothing wrong with an inspiring candidate, and it is humorous when people like to diminish that dimension of a person’s personality. The fact is that people vote with their hearts as much as with their heads. That is how politicians have been elected for hundreds of years. Otherwise, there is no damn way that Bush would have been re-elected (and he barely was elected in the first place). It’s just that this time there is a viable candidate that can appeal to the emotions as well as the mind.

Hillary Clinton has no more hard-core experience than Barack Obama does. That is just a myth. She is no more “ready to hit the ground running” than is Barack Obama. That is just a myth. The wheels of policy and governance keep running in this country no matter who is the president, because it was SET UP THAT WAY by the founding documents of this country. That is why we can basically stop everything and have a peaceful election for the leader of this nation every four years. That is rare in the world.

Barack did EXCELLENTLY in South Carolina when one breaks down the demographics — among blacks, men, women, and young people. I am of the opinion that most of the people who voted for Edwards (white men) would have voted for Obama, as that has been the trend during the primaries — then his margin of victory would have been even greater.

Shame on the people downplaying the role of inspiration — when you get people who never bothered to vote before to the polls, you are doing something right. It means people are waking up and deciding to become involved in the process. This is a rare quality and should be commended, not diminished.

O-B-A-M-A ‘08 !!!!!!!!!!

89.

Onemil02

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

Clearminded, once again inspiration is one thing, but tell me what is going to go along, what is his plan. And also, he has two Kennedy’s endorsing him and Hillary has 3 (Bobby, Kathleen and Kerry). The media keeps play up his endorsements, but don’t want to me mention Hillary’s. I just read where Toni Morrison is endorsing Obama, but the media failed to mention that Maya Angelou is endorsing Hillary. Hillary also has the NY Times, which is huge, but it’s barely been mentioned.

90.

CLEARMINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

People have told you throughout the thread to read the man’s plan at his website. What do you want? To be spoon-fed? Do the research! This is 2008. You can find out anything you want to find out. It’s merely a few clicks away in cyberspace.

91.

YES IA M VOTING FOR OBAMA

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

Hello, I am 96 years old and my grandson is typing this for me. To you young people who have not seen what I have seen or heard all I have heard, I will say yes I am voting or Mr.Obama and I am voting for him because I know the will of God and the word of God.
If you think that I am some crazy old woman then I am not I was a music teacher in the public school system in New York for 46 years and taught piano in my home for 28 years,when I was 56 years of age I earned my PHD in theology.
The Clintons will not be moving back into the white house.
You see young people, there is a God and He is a perfect God and a God of integrity, he never causes division and He never judges us or looks at us based on our sex or race and anyone who does so is not of God.
As far as Mr.Obama goes and his experience and what he knows I do know this one thing he knows the Lord and how to pray and hear from the Lord who is all knowing and for me that is saying volumes about his character.
I voted for the Clintons twice and during their last time in office I was ashamed for this country and he and his wife disgraced the office God had placed them in to up hold and they continually lied to us the people until the republicans put their backs against the wall.
I have had my grandson read these comments to me and most of you young folks seem wiser and smarter than God and yes many people may vote for the Clintons because the god of the world has blinded the minds of many people and the blind leads the blind and they both will fall in the ditch.
I have prayed and I have heard from the Lord and I will be voting for Senator Obama because I acknowledeg the Lord in my decision and I have a peace that surpasses all understanding about this decision and when I lay my head down I know that no ones blood will be upon my hands for following anyone but the Lord.
God bless the young people out their who know how to pray and fear God and who are walking with integrity and character.
The real truth is many of the whites who are making comments are simple against Mr. Obama because he is black…I been living long enough to smell prejudice and bigotry that is the whole problem in a nutshell and somebody needs to tell the truth he is treading on territory you have always control and you hate his “audacity” it is not he can’t do the job, that is not even the real issue!!!!!
This country is still racist as it ever was and you use all this other stuff to conceal it!!!!

92.

Have Not Thought of a New User Name

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

I was a little young when Bill Clinton was in office but the only reason I heard people call him the “first black president” was because he smoke some weed and got some head in the white house, is that what every black person dose?

I keep hearing people say Hillary/Bill have done so much for the black community yet when I ask what, they can’t elaborate. People died so we (african americans) can have the right to vote, and people should vote for whomever they choose but again I ask what has Hillary done that Barack can’t or hasn’t?

For the people with children if your son or daughter told you they wanted to be president what do or will you tell them

93.

NYLady

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

I’m loved Obama’s speech in SC– he showed that he can stand up to Billary and their under handed tactics. He does have to find a middle ground b/c those two are absolutely classless and will try to pull him down to their level.
It was interesting listening to many of the pundits on CNN and MSNBC this weekend. I think they hit the nail on the head–when they said that Bill is trying to corner Obama to being ‘just the black candidate’ hence the comparisons to Jesse and SC. By doing this they are trying to make the white males uncomfortable with him and he’ll only get the black votes moving forward.
These Clintons are right in the gutter with some of these republicans with their dirty politics.

What’s also interesting is the Hispanic votes this year. They seem to be leaning heavily to the Clintons.

94.

ANGEL_MINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

Cosign w/ #89

The media is biased, and they clearly favor Obama…

95.

bill

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

Ted boiling over Bubba
Reports: Kennedy clan rift over racial attacks on Obama

http://www.bostonherald.c...leid=1069441&srvc=rss

96.

ANGEL_MINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

The Clintons didn’t make race an issue…the media did. Don’t feed into the propaganda

97.

ANGEL_MINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

@ 92 -

I’m gonna tell you exactly what the Obama supporters have told me, which is to go their websites and read up on their accomplishment. I already know what Hilary’s done, but clearly, that’s not good enough for black folks.

I think you should read Judah’s comment:

I love when black people speak about America and the dictates of the U.S. government and use the term “we”, lol, as if Bush’s (or any other president’s) policies are going to be affected by what black people want

I’ve never understood black people that assert that you are a “crab in a barrel black” if you do not vote for Obama. That has to be explained because, to me, either you’re voting for the “best candidate” or you’re not. There is no room for racial allegiance and voting based on race in the American electoral process( allegedly). In my opinion when you cast your vote and put all your hope and faith in a “candidate” to assist you, you are an American, devoid of color, lineage, language, etc. This is how one knows that black people don’t know what the hell they want or why they want it.

98.

CLEARMINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

Exactly, #92 — what can Hillary do that Barack can’t? Barack has ALREADY shown superior decision-making skills by not voting for the war that Hillary *did* vote for. He did so even when the vast majority of politicians were voting the exact opposite. Is that not courage? Is that not leadership? This war has not only had ramifications in lives lost, but also is pulling our economy down and is destroying our standing in the world.

For all Hillary’s “experience” — she still voted for this fiasco while Barack didn’t. Why? Because she didn’t have the foresight? Don’t downplay it. It is what it is. What good is it to claim all your husband’s years in the White House as yours but yet you don’t have the vision to make the right decision regarding the most pivotal events in our nation’s history over the past 10 years?!?!

Perhaps Barack is just that much smarter, wiser, and more visionary than Hillary Clinton. And perhaps people that are voting for him recognize that!

O-B-A-M-A 08 !!!!!!

99.

CLEARMINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

Caroline Kennedy is speaking now at the Obana rally!!!!

100.

CLEARMINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

Sen. Kennedy now speaking. This is truly a MOMENT. Woo-hoooooo!

101.

@#91

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

I have read what you have said , and I too am an older American and it seems the people who are speaking of this so called experience of the Clintons have no sense of what integrity is and character and from all of my observation of the Clintons they seem to be corrupt.
By the way young people I don’t know what kind of homes you grew up in or your family values but integrity is a really BIG thing with God. You see He will give you all the wisdom the get any job done he calls you do do but integrity comes from a heart which is right that is why he says he looks at the heart not experience…experience has corrupted the Clintons and show them how tolie and manipulate and use people just for votes.
I am voting for Senator Obama, cannot with a clear conscience vote for the Clintons ever again.

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CLEARMINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

I am not mad at Teddy on Barack. Every word he is saying is well-chosen and effective. He called him a man of leadership and character and the man of the hour for this time in history. I am not mad, Teddy.

103.

Onemil02

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

You know something else people aren’t realizing angel_minded, Obama has a lot of work this week in preparation for Super Tuesday. South Carolina is over and done with and in the books. He has a serious challenge come next week. Like # 93 said and I been saying in the post repeatedly the Hispanic vote is overwhelmingly on Hillary’s side. Black people alone can’t get him the nomination, and most of these Hispanics are not voting for him and she will win California and New York (just to name a few) which will put her in a great position. Super Tuesday is going to make or break Obama. He better be on it come this Thursday.

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CLEARMINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

Somebody tell this negro behind Teddy to get off his cell phone. Damn! LOL….

105.

ANGEL_MINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

@ 98

Umm…what decision making skills? It’s a fact that Obama voted to fund the war, another issue that was mysteriously swept under the rug by the media. Hilary has even said in the debates that you have to go by Obama’s voting record and ever since the war has begun he has been voting to fund the war. And most of the time, he doesn’t vote @ all. Which to me speaks volumes!

106.

CLEARMINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

#105. Don’t try to spin it, LOL! You know, just like Ted Kennedy is saying right now, that Barack Obama voted AGAINST THIS BLASTED IRAQ WAR when it was easier and less courageous to vote for it.

Voting for *funding* of the war, once it was ALREADY STARTED only makes sense. It’s like caring for an unplanned baby once it’s born. You make the best of the situation. You don’t starve the baby once it’s born, because it’s hear now.

Don’t spin it…that’s Hillary’s job! LOL.

The fact is that Barack did show superior decision-making skills in that situation. He showed better character, leadership and wisdom than did Hillary Clinton.

Don’t spin it…LOL!

107.

ANGEL_MINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

@ 98

And furthermore, let’s not forget that Bush lied about certain ‘facts’ that put us to war. Hilary was voting on the info that she was given at that time. Just because Obama voted against the war doesn’t make him smart…it makes him lucky! And in all honestly the fact that he didn’t want to go to war makes me a little nervous too. I mean what should happen if another country does have weapons of mass destruction, will he try to serenade them w/ a kumbiya speech? These are freaking terrorists! They don’t wanna hear nothing bout no peace and unity…see this why I have strong reservations against Obama

108.

bill

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

Quote from the Washington Post, after Barack Obama announced his campaign for Presidency
http://www.washingtonpost...2/10/AR2007021001544.html

“Obama’s sharpest difference with both Clinton and Edwards is his early opposition to the Iraq war; they voted for the 2002 resolution authorizing President Bush to invade Iraq. Edwards has since apologized for his vote, and Clinton has said she would not have voted that way had she known then what she knows now.
But Obama can point to remarks he made in the fall of 2002 in which he not only called the war “dumb” but also predicted the dangers of the long occupation that followed the successful invasion. In his announcement speech, he described the war as a “tragic mistake.”

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CLEARMINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

*here* (not hear) now.

Ted is hitting on all the right points: Barack is ready to govern from Day One! All that Hillary is saying is nonsense. She’s no more prepared than Barack.

110.

ANGEL_MINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

I’m sorry but Hilary is a SOLDIER!!! Cannot wait til primaries are over and Hilary wins the democratic nomination…kewl! Feb 5 ain’t getting here soon enough!

111.

Christine

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

I’m sorry but do we really want Bill Clinton back in the white house for another four years? Obama all the way!!!

112.

CLEARMINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

CTHU @ “lucky, not smart” LOL…..you ain’t gots to lie Craig! Just as salty as Lawry’s that Obama was smarter, more visionary and more COURAGEOUS than Hillary.

@ BILL — thanks for posting that NYT piece.

OBAMA is speaking now. Woohoooooooo!!!!!!!!

113.

CLEARMINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

SMDH @ “lucky, not smart” — what a pity. Can’t even give this courageous, intelligent man his props. Poor haters. LOL!

114.

bill

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

Clearminded said:

@ BILL — thanks for posting that NYT piece.

Bill Said:

I got your back.
You continue to preach.
I cosisgn what your saying 101%

I’ll cut & paste the facts when I see you need some more ammo
I got your back

115.

CLEARMINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

#114. @ BILL — High Five!

Haters never prosper. No matter the outcome of this primary or the general election, I’m going to enjoy every moment of supporting Barack Obama and I hope he is our next President.

However, even if he never wins another thing, he’s ALREADY defying the odds. They have tried to tear this man down every which way and he’s still standing.

Obama is KILLING this speech.

116.

Have Not Thought of a New User Name

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

@ 97.

ANGEL_MINDED

I went to her website and I honestly wasn’t all that blown away so I thought I missed something. Yea she did some stuff but not nearly as much as much as people make it out to be ( she and her husband don’t get extra points for doing something they are suppose to do, I mean afterall we built this country and they treat us like crap that’s the least she could of done) . And when I listened to those people from Harlem they said they were upset, eveicted and out of money when Hillary put her offices there. They were saying their business were puched out to make room for her freinds and that the rent went up so much they couldn’t afford the rent.

117.

Onemil02

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

Angel Minded let’s just wait until the super Tuesday when Barack will look stupid, we don’t have to say no more!

118.

ANGEL_MINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

In my opinion, I think Hilary is defying the odds. In every news stand, all you read are all these negative comments about Hilary. Everything from, ‘Can Hilary Cry her way back to the White House,’ ‘Clinton is a Racist,’ ‘Clinton Attacks Obama,’ ‘Clinton Attacks MLK,’ smdh. She has had to endure all of this! I honestly, have no sympathy for Obama. This entire election has pretty much been a cake walk for him. Someone even mentioned how one magazine had a picture of Obama w/ a halo around his head…dayum shame! The inaccurate/twisted news coverage of Hilary is upsetting to say the least!

119.

Onemil02

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

yes, he is finally off, get to hillary, thank you!

120.

ANGEL_MINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

LMAO off #117!!!

I know!!!!! I can’t wait! I’m soo sick of this bullshyt! :)

121.

Have Not Thought of a New User Name

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

105.

ANGEL_MINDED
Monday, January 28, 2008
@ 98

Umm…what decision making skills? It’s a fact that Obama voted to fund the war, another issue that was mysteriously swept under the rug by the media. Hilary has even said in the debates that you have to go by Obama’s voting record and ever since the war has begun he has been voting to fund the war. And most of the time, he doesn’t vote @ all. Which to me speaks volumes!

___________________________________________________________________

Why not fund the war? Somebody’s brother,sister, uncle, husband and son is over there fighting shouln’t they have the access to the equipment and money they need to try and stay alive.

Just because he fund the war dosn’t mean he was for it. He couldn’t stop them from going.

122.

Onemil02

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

Oh angel minded, they just showed where Hillary is winning in the delegate count, even though some said Obama was, 230-152.

123.

ANGEL_MINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

@ 121 -

If you feel like Hilary isn’t good enough, or doesn’t share your ideas for this country. Then by all means don’t vote for her! I’m not on this site to advocate or sway you to vote for one over the other. I simply stated my opinion, and corrected the untruths/inaccurantcies of other posters. But truthfully, I think you were against Hilary to begin w/ otherwise you would have a better understanding of why I, as well as others, have chosen to vote and support her.

Well, good luck on whoever you choose to vote for! :)

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ANGEL_MINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

@ 122 - Excellent!

125.

CLEARMINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

@118 — you ain’t gots to lie craig — quit distorting and exaggerating…lol! “Cake walk”??? Lawd! You sound like Hillary with all her slippery-ness.

The fact is that Billary is reaping the harvest of their own seeds of division and dishonesty. It was all laid out today in Ted’s speech. He laid out every single point and did it masterfully.

The Clintons have a long history of corruption and if your wish does come true and she is the Democratic nominee in the fall, trust she will never be elected President. She will be cremated by the Republicans.

Many people who would have voted Democratic no matter what in 08 are now changing and are saying “anybody but Hillary” — and Billary have no one to blame other than themselves.

And I’m laughing that the people who are minimizing the black vote while maximizing the Hispanic vote. *Both* sectors are vitally important. Oh the hypocrisy in saying the hispanics will go overwhelmingly to Clinton while downing black people for overwhelmingly backing Obama. Haters….lol!

126.

Have Not Thought of a New User Name

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

123.

ANGEL_MINDED
Monday, January 28, 2008
@ 121 -

If you feel like Hilary isn’t good enough, or doesn’t share your ideas for this country. Then by all means don’t vote for her! I’m not on this site to advocate or sway you to vote for one over the other. I simply stated my opinion, and corrected the untruths/inaccurantcies of other posters. But truthfully, I think you were against Hilary to begin w/ otherwise you would have a better understanding of why I, as well as others, have chosen to vote and support her.

Well, good luck on whoever you choose to vote for!

————————————————————————————————————————

I was never agianst Hillary she actually was going to be my second choice before the recent events took place, but I wish you the same with your vote as well.

Have a good day/evening depending on where you are.

127.

CLEARMINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

#123. Oh please. I stated *my* opinions and corrected what *I* felt were inaccuracies. You haven’t done anything special here, and you came in with condescenion and insults dripping from your fingertips. That’s plain to see just by reading the thread from the beginning. You ain’t gots to lie, Craig…lol. And your opinion is no more valuable than mine nor the other people who want to support Obama.

128.

ANGEL_MINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

@ 125

Now see the funny thing about white people, is, is that they will yell ‘OBAMA ‘08 and then behind closed doors…it’s anything other than black…lol!

Obama was able to use his charm to capture the votes of the latest caucases but let’s see if he’ll be able to sway 52 states come Feb 5.

I’m just gonna leave it @ that…but I’m gonna try to remember your screen name so that I can be sure you let me know your thoughts and theories behind why Hilary will win the nomination…good day!

129.

CLEARMINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

“Black folks” this and “white folks” that…. that’s what it degenerates into…LOL!

130.

velvetj

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

#129, and let me guess all of this “Black foks” and “White folks” stuff is strickly because of the Clinton’s right?

131.

ANGEL_MINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

The Clintons have a long history of corruption and if your wish does come true and she is the Democratic nominee in the fall, trust she will never be elected President. She will be cremated by the Republicans.

_________________________________________________________________

Tsk, Tsk, no darling that’ll happen if (and I do mean a big IF) Obama is elected. LOL - you got it backwards!

132.

CLEARMINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

@130 — I was referring to Angel_Minded’s constant “black folks” this and “white folks” that throughout this thread. She has repeatedly made blanket statements about what black folks are: too stupid to make decisions for themselves and what white folks do: say black and then vote white.

Puzzlingly, she has said this while supporting a white candidate who is rightfully coming under fire for using under-handed racist tactics. And it’s even more confusing that she’s putting black people and white people into boxes when you have white people supporting Barack Obama and you have black people supporting Hillary Clinton….LOL!

133.

ANGEL_MINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

“…while supporting a white candidate who is rightfully coming under fire for using under-handed racist tactics…”

An example of an inaccurancy…

134.

CLEARMINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

^Nothing inaccurate about it.

Just as there was nothing inaccurate about Bill Clinton’s throwaway comment comparing Obama’s win to Jesse Jackson also winning South Carolina. It is dismissive and divisive. He thought he was slick, but actually it was blatant and obvious.

Despite your claims that black people are stupid, we are not, and neither are the white people who took offense to Billary’s underhanded divisive tactics over the past few weeks.

135.

bill

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

CLEARMINDED said:

@130 — I was referring to Angel_Minded’s constant “black folks” this and “white folks” that throughout this thread. She has repeatedly made blanket statements about what black folks are: too stupid to make decisions for themselves and what white folks do: say black and then vote white.

Bill Said:

Thank you for saying that clearminded.

I now see that I wasn’t the only person that was offended by Angel_Minded condescending remarks about Black People

It as if she (angel_minded) believes that the only reason why black people like Barack Obama is because he’s black.

That’s being a tad bit presumptuous, and quite frankly insulting.
Most of us have researched their candidate, much like you have obviously done.

To insult the intelligence, ethnicity & belief of the commentators on concrete loop is no way to win friends or influence people that your position is valid.

You may or may not have some valid points angel_minded, but they way you are presenting those points are immature.

I’m not trying to start a fight with you angel_minded. You seem like a very intelligent young lady, and your quite passionate about your viewpoints ( I admire that trait, Passion is a good thing to have)

I’m just stating that there are certain rules to a debate, and there is a decorum…….

Your opinion could be very valid…..
and your welcome to them, but do your REALLY have to put down a person’s intelligence because they don’t agree with you ?

Just asking
Peace

136.

ANGEL_MINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

@ 134 & 135

Perhaps I was a bit aggressive in my comments towards ’some blacks,’ but the truth is, that everytime I try to say something positive about Hilary, I always receive some ‘crabs in a barel, comment or I’m a slave to massa. I may have been too presumptious w/ some of comments.

Like I said, I have no problem w/ Obama and if he’s the better candidate in YOUR eyes then…that’s wonderful.

137.

CLEARMINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

@135, BILL — what an awesome post. I agree 101%. Couldn’t agree more!

138.

JUDAH

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

@134

That’s interesting. Did Bill Clinton compare Obama’s victory in South Carolina to Jesse Jackson’s, lol? I must have missed that.

139.

CLEARMINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

@136 — Cool. I hear you.

140.

CLEARMINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

@138. Yeah, he said it, LOL. I was going to post an article, but those may include people’s opinions. So here is a YouTube clip. (Hope this works.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qqd2dfjl2pw

141.

bill

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

CLEARMINDED said:

Just as there was nothing inaccurate about Bill Clinton’s throwaway comment comparing Obama’s win to Jesse Jackson also winning South Carolina. It is dismissive and divisive. He thought he was slick, but actually it was blatant and obvious.

Bill Said:

Judah had asked me last week why I switched my support from Hilary Clinton to Barack Obama

What clearminded just said crystallizes my feelings for Hilary Clinton lately.

The Clinton’s (Bill & Hilliary) act as if they are entitled to the Black Vote.

They act as if Black Folks should vote for Hilary because Bill was “Our First Black President”.

Well that was eight years ago.
& time have changed…….

If Bill was running (or if he could run) maybe we would vote for him again
but
Black people are more intelligent than the Clinton’s care to believe.

Just because Hillary Clinton shows up in a black church, and starts to speak with a southern Negro dialect, that is suppose to impress me.

Just because Bill Clinton has a office in Harlem, and plays the sax, I’m suppose to be besides myself.

If I saw Bill or Hillary Clinton on the street today, “What have YOU done for me lately”

I really have not witness Hillary Clinton championing the Black Man or Black Woman’s issues.

I have not heard her speak about thing that affect MY community.

She a nice enough person,

She was a Wonderful First Lady (is there a job description for being First Lady ??)
She’s a okay senator.

It’s just that LATELY she is so damm arrogant, and Bill Clinton has completely lost his mind.

What they are doing is alienating the Black People they were considering voting for THEM (her) in the first place.

I am so insulted by Hillary Clinton’s Campaign tactics, that even if Barack Obama loses the democratic nomination, I would rather vote republican than see Hillary Clinton in office.

If you read the various new reports (I google at least 10 different newspaper a day) you will see that most of the country has a strong dislike for Hillary Clinton because of her arrogance & and the fact that she keeps speaking about this so called experience. (definition “Entitlement”)

Yeah..That’s a perfect word to describe Hillary Clinton. She feels that she is Entitled to the Presidency because her husband WAS president 8 years ago.

She DOES experience as a First Lady & a senator.
She’s never been president.
She wasn’t the one sitting in the oval office.

None of the OTHER candidate (Democratic or Republican) have this so called experience as President, that she is going around gloating about.

See what I mean. She’s just arrogant

Peace

142.

bill

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

136.

ANGEL_MINDED said:

@ 134 & 135

Perhaps I was a bit aggressive in my comments towards ’some blacks,’ but the truth is, that everytime I try to say something positive about Hilary, I always receive some ‘crabs in a barel, comment or I’m a slave to massa. I may have been too presumptious w/ some of comments.

Bill Said:

Thank you for saying that, my sister.
I respect you and your right to your opinion.
I may not agree with you, but I do think your intelligence is very attractive
* I love to her a Black Woman Fuss

I respect you angel_Minded.
me & you are cool

Peace
bill

143.

Meat

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

What does Mexicans and other non-black minorities have against Obama? Are these people of color afraid that Blacks will be favored over them if he wins? He gets no support from our Chicano brothers and sisters! Tisk, Tisk, after we’ve done so much for them!

144.

ANGEL_MINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

@ 142

:) Yeah we’re cool!

145.

bill

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

ANGEL_MINDED
@ 142

Yeah we’re cool!

Bill Said:

Good.
I’m glad…
don’t be so mean girl !
:)
Your prettier when you smile

146.

JUDAH

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

@Bill

I don’t believe that calling many black people out on their reasoning behind their allegiance to Obama is wrong in the least. We have to call out our own people as much as possible because when we don’t do it, the white man calls our people out in his slanted judicial and penal systems. Whether black people want to understand this, believe this, or not, America is a caucasian country and if there was sincere concern about our people, it wouldn’t have to come down to a political candidate in 2008 to give hope to America, much less black people. Any candidate; much less a black candidate, must serve and appeal to the controlling demographic, so by that reasoning, it does make sense to wonder why black people would be so gung ho for a candidate that has been put forth by the establishment. I’m not saying to not vote if one sincerely feels as if that is the way to go. To each his own. All I’m saying is that, based off precedent, there’s no reason to believe that this man will prove any different from any other candidate, white or black, to be put forth if he were to win the election. If the disagreement is over “the issues” then so be it, but the Obama supporters are just as guilty of yelling “Coon!” or “Crab in a barrel!” (with no understanding) as the Hillary supporters are of claiming that the Obama supporters support him strictly due to race.

No disrespect to any brothers or sisters, but every candidate has a series of platforms and a belief system that they allege to stand for. That’s the point of idealism. I could do some research and direct someone to a link associated with George Bush Jr. with bullet points that will claim that he will clean up America but we all know that there is a difference between the campaign and the execution once power is achieved. Directing someone to a link that claims to detail Obama’s politics does nothing and serves nothing. I think that Obama’s voting record speaks volumes on his fear of making hard decisions in lieu of his run for the presidency. I believe that he was hoping that a record of non-commitment would look better than yes or no votes that would reveal his true allegiances. He must play the role until it’s time for the rug to be pulled out from under his supporters. Believe me, those Clintons are the sneakiest bastards on two feet and if anyone thinks that they don’t have 5 or 6 tricks to pull out of their bag on Obama, think again.

147.

bill

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

correction ( I hate misspelled words or incomplete thoughts)

Judah had asked me last week why I switched my support from Hilary Clinton to Barack Obama

What clearminded said earlier crystallizes my feelings for Hilary Clinton lately.

The Clinton’s (Bill & Hilliary) act as if they are entitled to the Black Vote.

They act as if Black Folks should vote for Hilary because Bill was “Our First Black President”.

Well that was eight years ago.
& times have changed…….

If Bill was running (or if he could run) maybe we would vote for him again
but
Black people are more intelligent than the Clinton’s care to believe.

Just because Hillary Clinton shows up in a black church, and starts to speak with a southern Negro dialect, am I supposed to be impressed ?

Just because Bill Clinton has a office in Harlem, and plays the sax, I’m suppose to be besides myself, or believe that he is down with the brothers ?

If I saw Bill or Hillary Clinton on the street today, I would ask them
“What have YOU done for me lately”

I really have not witnessed Hillary Clinton championing the Black Man or Black Woman’s causes/issues.

I have not heard her speak about thing that affect MY community.
The Black Community
How am I to be certain that she has my best interst in mind ?

She a nice enough person,

She was a Wonderful First Lady (is there really a job description for being First Lady ??)

She’s was a okay senator.
She’s passionate enough about her beliefs

It’s just that LATELY she is so damm arrogant lately,
and Bill Clinton has completely lost his freaking mind.

What they are doing is alienating the Black People they WERE
considering voting for THEM (her) in the first place.

I am so insulted by Hillary Clinton’s Campaign tactics, that even if Barack Obama loses the democratic nomination, I would rather vote republican than see Hillary Clinton in office.

If you read the various new reports (I google at least 10 different newspaper a day) you will see that most of the country has a strong dislike for Hillary Clinton because of her arrogance & and the fact that she keeps speaking about this so called experience. (definition “Entitlement”)

Yeah….
That’s a perfect word to describe Hillary Clinton.
She feels that she is Entitled to the Presidency because her husband WAS president 8 years ago.

She DOES have experience as a First Lady & a senator.
BUT
She’s never been president.
& She wasn’t the one sitting in the oval office.

None of the OTHER candidate (Democratic or Republican)
have this so called experience as President, that she keeps going around gloating about.

See what I mean. She’s just arrogant

Peace

148.

CLEARMINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

@141. Another great post, BILL. Although some may think that all black people are some mindless monolith, the fact is that Billary had lots of black support until their entitlement came to the surface and turned people (black and white) off. I definitely do not believe that Billary are hard-core racists — rather I believe they were operating from a subtle prejudice that thinks black people are simple-minded and easily controlled by white people. It is intangible and somewhat inexplicable, but you know it when you feel it.

The Clintons have been treated as rock stars in the black community for so long that I think they felt they had us in their back pocket. I don’t want to go further on the point because I could talk about it all day, LOL.

Like you, I was all ready to vote for whoever won the Democratic nomination, but I can honestly say now that I cannot cast my vote for Billary. I see a lot of ugliness and manipulation and I can’t go for it.

149.

ANGEL_MINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

@ 146

I have to say that I both love and admire your stance on the issue!!! Great points…

@145

It’s funny you mentioned that b/c I do have a really great smile! :)

150.

CLEARMINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

@146 — so I take it you’re not voting in this election? All you’ve detailed is a good reason to abstain (or write in a candidate), I guess.

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Meat

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

Bill,

Good response!!!

This election is just like the “Affirmative Action” vote back in the day when it took the inclusion of “white women” to get it passed! After that, all government contracts went to the wives of the same white men who had been getting them since the begining of time! Hillary will put blacks in their place like the commentator who told the young golfers to lynch Tiger Woods in the back alley! She was almost offended, that someone would challenge her right to say what was in her racist heart!

Let’s not forget…Hillary is a “woman scorned” and hell hath no fury like her! She’s a spiteful woman who will torment minority prisoners and let them rot in their cells! She gets emotional and she will get caught up in the frenzy!

152.

bill

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

Judah Said:

Any candidate; much less a black candidate, must serve and appeal to the controlling demographic, so by that reasoning, it does make sense to wonder why black people would be so gung ho for a candidate that has been put forth by the establishment.

Bill Said:

Judah, Someone has to be the first Black President.
Why NOT Barack Obama ???

We, as a community have always dared to say why not.

Black History Month is comming up, and here is some information that I’m going to share with my students

The Greated African Americans that ever lives
a Brief list (for the complet listing go to this website)
http://www.infoplease.com/spot/bhmfirsts.html

African-American Firsts: Government
Local elected official: John Mercer Langston, 1855, town clerk of Brownhelm Township, Ohio.
State elected official: Alexander Lucius Twilight, 1836, the Vermont legislature.
Mayor of major city: Carl Stokes, Cleveland, Ohio, 1967–1971. The first black woman to serve as a mayor of a major U.S. city was Sharon Pratt Dixon Kelly, Washington, DC, 1991–1995.
Governor (appointed): P.B.S. Pinchback served as governor of Louisiana from Dec. 9, 1872–Jan. 13, 1873, during impeachment proceedings against the elected governor.
Governor (elected): L. Douglas Wilder, Virginia, 1990–1994. The only other elected black governor has been Deval Patrick, Massachusetts, 2007–
U.S. Representative: Joseph Rainey became a Congressman from South Carolina in 1870 and was reelected four more times. The first black female U.S. Representative was Shirley Chisholm, Congresswoman from New York, 1969–1983.
U.S. Senator: Hiram Revels became Senator from Mississippi from Feb. 25, 1870, to March 4, 1871, during Reconstruction. Edward Brooke became the first African-American Senator since Reconstruction, 1966–1979. Carol Mosely Braun became the first black woman Senator serving from 1992–1998 for the state of Illinois. (There have only been a total of five black senators in U.S. history: the remaining two are Blanche K. Bruce [1875–1881] and Barack Obama (2005— ).
U.S. cabinet member: Robert C. Weaver, 1966–1968, Secretary of the Department of Housing and Urban Development under Lyndon Johnson; the first black female cabinet minister was Patricia Harris, 1977, Secretary of the Department of Housing and Urban Development under Jimmy Carter.
U.S. Secretary of State: Gen. Colin Powell, 2001–2004. The first black female Secretary of State was Condoleezza Rice, 2005—.
African-American Firsts: Law
Editor, Harvard Law Review: Charles Hamilton Houston, 1919. Barack Obama became the first President of the Harvard Law Review.
Federal Judge: William Henry Hastie, 1946; Constance Baker Motley became the first black woman federal judge, 1966.
U.S. Supreme Court Justice: Thurgood Marshall, 1967–1991. Clarence Thomas became the second African American to serve on the Court in 1991.
African-American Firsts: Diplomacy
U.S. diplomat: Ebenezer D. Bassett, 1869, became minister-resident to Haiti; Patricia Harris became the first black female ambassador (1965; Luxembourg).
U.S. Representative to the UN: Andrew Young (1977–1979).
Nobel Peace Prize winner: Ralph J. Bunche received the prize in 1950 for mediating the Arab-Israeli truce. Martin Luther King, Jr., became the second African-American Peace Prize winner in 1964. (See King’s Nobel acceptance speech.)
African-American Firsts: Military
Combat pilot: Georgia-born Eugene Jacques Bullard, 1917, denied entry into the U.S. Army Air Corps because of his race, served throughout World War I in the French Flying Corps. He received the Legion of Honor, France’s highest honor, among many other decorations.
First Congressional Medal of Honor winner: Sgt. William H. Carney for bravery during the Civil War. He received his Congressional Medal of Honor in 1900.
General: Benjamin O. Davis, Sr., 1940–1948.
Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff: Colin Powell, 1989–1993.
African-American Firsts: Science and Medicine
First patent holder: Thomas L. Jennings, 1821, for a dry-cleaning process. Sarah E. Goode, 1885, became the first African-American woman to receive a patent, for a bed that folded up into a cabinet.
M.D. degree: James McCune Smith, 1837, University of Glasgow; Rebecca Lee Crumpler became the first black woman to receive an M.D. degree. She graduated from the New England Female Medical College in 1864.
Inventor of the blood bank: Dr. Charles Drew, 1940.
Heart surgery pioneer: Daniel Hale Williams, 1893.
First astronaut: Robert H. Lawrence, Jr., 1967, was the first black astronaut, but he died in a plane crash during a training flight and never made it into space. Guion Bluford, 1983, became the first black astronaut to travel in space; Mae Jemison, 1992, became the first black female astronaut. Frederick D. Gregory, 1998, was the first African-American shuttle commander.
African-American Firsts: Scholarship
College graduate (B.A.): Alexander Lucius Twilight, 1823, Middlebury College; first black woman to receive a B.A. degree: Mary Jane Patterson, 1862, Oberlin College.
Ph.D.: Edward A. Bouchet, 1876, received a Ph.D. from Yale University. In 1921, three individuals became the first U.S. black women to earn Ph.D.s: Georgiana Simpson, University of Chicago; Sadie Tanner Mossell Alexander, University of Pennsylvania; and Eva Beatrice Dykes, Radcliffe College.
Rhodes Scholar: Alain L. Locke, 1907.
College president: Daniel A. Payne, 1856, Wilberforce University, Ohio.
Ivy League president: Ruth Simmons, 2001, Brown University
Couple examples of The First Black______

Judah, we as a people have so much to be proud of
and the future looks bright.

We can accomplish anything we set our minds to.
We are salt of the earth.
The world wouldn’t have any flavor without Black People.

Peace

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bill

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

CLEARMINDED said:

@146 — so I take it you’re not voting in this election? All you’ve detailed is a good reason to abstain (or write in a candidate), I guess.

Bill Said:

Judah, if you HAD to vote (I think I remember you saying that you don’t vote)
WHO
would you vote for ?????

I was reading your comments last week on the GREEN PARTY’s candidate
Cynthia McKinney
* Yes, she is the same sister that was denied entrance to the Voting chambers in Congress (She was a congresswoman) because she didn’thave on her ID Card (their excuse).

She stated that it was because she had changed her hairstyle to a more afrocentric style

I keep reading from certain commentators here on Concreteloop about Ron Paul, and how he is really down for Black People and OUR issues. Do you have any insight on him ??

Peace

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CLEARMINDED

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

@153, BILL — there is no way I would be abstaining during the primaries in 2008. Just couldn’t even picture it. Now if Billary is the Dem candidate and the Repubs put up somebody absolutely repugnant to me, then I might abstain or write in. But definitely not during the primary.

Can’t sit this one out on the sidelines, and it’s hard for me to take seriously people who do. But to each their own — I know that opinion may be very unpopular.

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Ara

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

OBAMA 08!! ALL THE WAY! GET OUT AND VOTE!!

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bill

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

Clearminded

I was listening to 98.7 Kiss (NYC) Yesterday to”Open Line - A Black Political Talk Show”
and they were floating around a few ideals..

Here’s what they presented.

Wouldn’t it be Great if Barack Obama won the nomination for the Presidency that he SHOULD chose Mayor Bloomberg (Mayor of NYC) as his Vice Presidential candidate ???

That would make SUCH perfect sense.

Now let me play devil’s advocate.
Let just imagine for a moment that Hillary Clinton wins the democratic nomination.
What’s next.
How Could see win the Presidential nomination in November ‘08 ???
Hmmmm….Good question right..
There would ONLY be one way !

Now what I would really like to see IF Hillary Clinton
won the nomination for the Democratic Ticket is for her to ask Barack Obama to be her Vice President !

See Barack (he has no pride or ego) would be able to be Hillary’s Vice President
but
Hillary would NEVER be Barack’s Vice President.

Truth be told….
The only way the Democratic will win the Presidency in 2008
is if You have Hillary Clinton & Barck Obama on the same ticket !!!

See..It’s all because the same people going around saying that we’re not ready for an African American President are the same people that WILL be saying we’re not ready for a WOMAN President.

Do you REALLY thing that the Deep South and the Mid West would vote for Hillary as President, and she didn’t have a strong Vice Presidential Candidate.

What would make her unbeatable, is to mend fences with Barack, swallow her pride and apologize.

That’s just MY opinion
Peace

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bill

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

Do you REALLY THINK that the Deep South and the Mid West would vote for Hillary as President, and she didn’t have a strong Vice Presidential Candidate.

They will vote Republican before they will allow a woman or a negro to be President.

That why people really have to put the BEST candidate forth for the Party’s sake !!!

Can Hillary Represent on a National Level (no…. she will start to cry once she gets stressed…)

See White People LIKE Barack Obama. He speaks their language.
They feel that he is a nice negro.

And they are thinking in the back of their mind
“Hey, Barack Obama’s mother is Caucasian, so he can’t be half bad !”

Barack Obama is PERFECT
Hollywood couldn’t cast a better person for the job of being the First Black President !

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@ BILL

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

My sentiments exactly, the repubs have already said they could beat Hillary and they have said Obama would be difficult to beat. The democrats need Obama and are not willing to face the truth, but I will say they will vote a black MAN in before they wil la woman. They are already talking about how hard they will be on her as opposed to Obama because of all the Clinto baggage and these young folk don’t remeber it was the repubs who went after Bill and Hillary years ago and trust me they have not forgotten and they may not be saying it but they are not too keen about putting Bill back in the white house. They really want Hillary to win the nod so they can do all they can to be rid of the Clintons once and for all.I seriously believe if Obama got the nod then people would rally behind him, Bills mouth would be out the way and the nation would come together and vote.
You are so right..and I hope Obama does not accept her Vice Presidency let them run it, because then I will vote repub to help them get rid of them.If he does I am not voting at all.
The Clintons are corrupt to the core and I wll never help her get in office, don’t trust then if the dog bites once its the dog fault twice then my fault.

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Meat

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

@157

Bill,

Y’all trippin like Artest and Iverson in the fourth quarter! LMAO!!

“A nice negro who can’t be half bad, because he was casted in Hollywood!”

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JUDAH

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

@Clear-Minded

Yes you’re right sis, I will “abstain”. I personally believe that black people are looking for a “savior” for our community to come through the electoral process. That will not happen. It makes even less sense to “write in” a candidate because that’s just vanity and folly. Why write in someone that you know will not win? The only reason would be to exalt yourself and appear self-righteous when in reality you’ll just be self-indulgent. All this exterior fluff about “the issues” and “the platforms” is a cover for our people’s lust to be accepted in this country and to be loved by caucasians. That also will not happen. They view Barack Obama as the key through that door. My thing is, what do black people do if (when) Obama loses? Do they go and vote for the same white woman that they villified as a closet racist, Hillary Clinton, because her horns are a little more imperceptible than the Republican candidates? Those are the things that interest me. This is like the start of a good action movie. Nothing has blown up yet but black people have already finished their popcorn like the flick is over. Our people are still not sure whether we must solve our own problems or if even greater assimilation into the mainstream of this society will solve them.

@Bill

Brother, who says that there will ever be a black president or that there must be? That’s very presumptuous. I’m not saying that there will never be a black president. What will be, will be, but like I said earlier, if you put your hope in the American system you must therefore think like an American, not a BLACK American. In regards to Obama’s possible effect on the black community, I don’t give a damn how nice the roof on your house is if there’s no foundation (Psa 11:1-3). Our community has lost it’s foundation and they’re hoping that this man, one man, can correct the systemic issues that we have. It is not possible, and furthermore brother, you know where I stand and why I stand there. A carnal solution cannot solve spiritual problems.

In regards to who I would vote for if I had to, that’s like asking me which of my least favorite foods would i like to eat. If I put my faith in this world; the dictates of this world and government, and believed that this system applied to me and my people, I would probably vote for Obama. Maybe Hillary. Honestly I’m not sure. I would wait things out until I’d have accumulated proper research and data. Like I said, there are many debates in the near future in which alot of powerful information about both people and their dirt will be revealed. I’m not used to thinking like that in regards to dependence on people to lead me. I’m not trying to be elusive.

In my opinion, Ron Paul is a low-level spoiler. You have high-level spoilers like John Edwards and you have clowns like Ron Paul. Both are out there to cause confusion and make the people think that they have a multitude of options. I personally believe that the voting system is a scam and that the powers that be have already ordained who will be selected as leader. This process is a ruse to keep the minds of the people subjugated and to maintain the facade that the “little man” has as much say as the “big man”. Like I said though, if you believe that you have to vote to make a difference, more power to you. To each his own. The sister, Clear-Minded, touched on the Clintons’ true subtle disdain for black people and it comes from the fact that the Clintons’ are both “in the know” and one must realize that white people don’t think like black people. White people can not qualify in their minds being oppressed and looking at the race that oppresses them with hope that they’ll be on “equal terms”. So thusly, their opinion of us is that if the negroes are stupid enough to believe our lies over and over again, than they don’t deserve remorse (Prov 26:24-28).

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SHE CAN NEVER BE MY PRESIDENT NEVER

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

I will ner submit to her as President and if I were Obama I would tell allthose white folk especially Bill and Hellary to kiss my tootie…but Obama is committed to the people..it would be best if he bowed out if he did not win it because Bill and Hellary are going to give him their a_____ to kiss they have already disrespected him as a man and they would only be using him to win that’s all. They don’t give a rip about Obama. I hat the Clintons they are users and takers and they only care for themselves.
God has to divinely intervene on Obamas behalf becuse the democrats want to use him and Bill and Hillary will apologize alright because they have stategized but with no real love in their heart for he his wife or his childre, they are professional politicians manipulaturs and use others to their advantage.
Like the media says the Clintons have been stategizing for years how toget back in the white hous and they do not care how they do it and will never play by the rules have gotten to good at corruption and they may try to drag Obama in their mess Iwould not work under them, if I were him they should never be trusted. What do you think Bill??

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WHAT MY GRANDSON ASKED ME TODAY

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

“GRANDMOTHER WHAT CAN MRS. CLINTON DO THAT MR. OBAMA CAN”T DO?????????”

The question caught me off guard he is 8 yr old 4th and I was picking him up for his parents today. he and his freind (white) in calss were discussing this.

After a bit of thought I repiled…..

With the Lords help there is absoulutely nothing she can do thathe can’t.

He then said then what is the problem with him wanting to be the President of the United States…I said I don’t know baby just keep praying.

I told him to talk with his mom and dad about it more tonight.

So sad, this conversation really got next to me.

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Angel_Minded

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

Again, I think I might have to agree w/ Judah and also abstain until primaries are over.
This election is getting pretty heated.
I never knew that so many blacks held such a high level of contempt for the Clintons until I started blogging.

:)

164.

Meat

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

163. Angel_Minded said: Again, I think I might have to agree w/ Judah and also abstain until primaries are over. NO COMMENT!

This election is getting pretty heated. AGREE!

I never knew that so many blacks held such a high level of contempt for the Clintons until I started blogging.

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Now, there was no “high level” of contempt until the Clintons tried to play the race card and puppet Bob Johnson to heave dirt on Obama! Remember, it takes a lifetime to build a relationships, reputation and trust, but it only takes a second to destroy it! We were all set to support Hillary, but we wanted to hear what Obama had to say! Hillary got a little jealous and sidetrack into mud slinging! She let his 15 minutes of fame cause her to expose her hand.

We been getting dripped on long enough to know when R Kelly’s in the building! As Stevie said, “For once in my life, I have someone who needs me!” Without Obama, the Clintons would show contempt for us! Please allow the popularity to swing back and forth! We not just gonna hand our voting over to anyone without looking them over!

developing…!

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Angel_Minded

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

@ 164

Okay here’s my theory, if people were really rallying behind ‘Clintons then they wouldn’t have abandeoned her so easily. I was given the same info that others have been given and I still stand behind her 110%. For starters I don’t believe that she’s racist @ all. It seems like people are using these little ridiculous reasons to not support her. Like her using a ‘fake accent’ when she was down south, kissing black babies, lol etc., none of these things bothered me. I dunno perhaps I’m just not petty in that why of thinking.

Then people who dislike her, claim that she made race an issue, which is absolutely not true. The media made this a race/gender issue not the ‘Clintons, which is one of the major inaccuracies! The media was the one asking if Obama was ‘black enough,’ to be consider ‘the first black president,’ THEY (the media) felt that he wasn’t balck enough b/c of his mother’s ethnicity.

And another thing, I was truly appalled when Michelle Obama made that comment about Bill’s infidelity. First off, you don’t side swiped someone in your own party, the people in Obama’s camp started playing dirty by spreading lies about Hilary.

Then when Hilary decides to fight back, we see media coveragre like, ‘Clinton Attacks Obama,’ ok so where was all the major news coverage when Obama was attacking Hilary? I just hate the fact that the media is making Obama out to be this saint…or even a god send to black people, hence the magazine cover w/ a halo around his head.

This is why I stated that I believe that the major reason why ’some’ blacks were voting for Obama was because of the media and their loyalty to their black race.
But as Bill pointed out, not all black folks vote b/c of race…eventhough a large percentage of the black vote, in my opinion, are.

166.

AIJUSWANNASAY

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

FROM SOME OF THE COMMENTS HERE, ALOT OF FOLKS ARE LOOKING FOR A “HERO” IN OBAMA AND I HAVE TO SAY IF YOU ARE ONE, THAT’S DANGEROUS AND I’D GO AS FAR AS TO SAY A RECKLESS WAY TO THINK…

JUST THE SAME IF, YOU ARE RELYING EXCLUSIVELY ON CNN, OR MSN OR (DARE I SAY) FOX NEWS OR USA TODAY AS YOUR PRIMARY NEWS SOURCE FOR THIS ELECTION, THAT’S CRAZY IRRESPONSIBLE AND JUST BLISSFULLY DELUSIONAL…

I KNOW I’M NOT SAYING ANYTHING NEW THAT HASN’T BEEN RAISED ALREADY BUT I JUST HAD TO GIVE MY “WAKE UP” TWO CENT….*SMH*

ALSO I’M NOT SAYING TO GIVE UP HOPE IN YOUR HEART, NO, IT’S FINE IF YOU DESIRE A FEMALE PRESIDENT, BLACK PRES, A PRES THAT CATERS TO A SPECIAL INTEREST OF YOURS, WHATEVER, THAT’S FINE, THAT’S YOUR AGENCY…BUT TAKE ADVANTAGE ALL OF YOUR RESOURCES (SHOUT OUT TO CONCRETELOOP) IN MAKING WHATEVER DECISION YOU CHOOSE.

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TENI

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

VIDA:
I’m convinced. I worked in South Carolina for the primary and the people of Charleston really motivated me. He ran an extremely dignified campaign. While the Clinton machine was calling people telling them the wrong polling place and disenfranchising people. I was so disgusted. Obama, I’m telling you, he has a plan. He really wants to unify this country on a bipartisan level. He has an excellent plan to eliminate racial profiling, to improve our public schools by creating a teachers army. He also plans to have a Civil Rights division in his adminstration to deal specifically with fighting racial and gender discrimination. SO, this man has a plan.

ONEMIL2:
His healthcare plan is excellent. It gives ACCESS. Which is a big change. While Hillary’s plan calls for mandates, making universal healthcare a mandate, that makes it another hazard for family’s to pay and then they get fined. Read my above statements. Obama is far MORE than a motivational speaker.

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Liz

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

Afiya:

You are embarrassing. And something tells me that you are an older Black woman. Because those are the majority of the scary critics. That is so sad that you would say that. Why? Why can it not be possible that this man can win in an all White state like Iowa and in an majority Black state like SC, and be a good viable candidate and not be being set up. I can not stand when Black people believe with people tell them and sit in their own dispair. That is so sad. No one wants to hear that negative stuff. You should pray for yourself. You really leave a bad taste in my mouth. So sad to continuously hear the children of the civil rights movement have this my cyncism and doubt in their heart. I really don’t know what to say.

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Liz

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

Angel_Minded: You are kidding right? You are kidding? You have to be joking. I know you are. You can not seriously think that Hillary Clinton was RESPONSIBLE for 300 million people. LMAO! Name one program she has intiated for single mothers? And since when does that equate to African Americans? Did you miss the documentary that was released in 1994 called the Clinton Chronicles. People have ALWAYS disliked the Clintons. ANd what about the Whitewater scandal? That was all over the news. I was in like the 3rd grade and even I remember that. Not to mention the 3 strikes law that was implemented by Billary and the continous implemntation of the War on Drugs which dispporportionately put Black men in jail over White men. People like you are so dumb. Hillary wouldn’t be that bad if she didn’t claim Bill’s experience. This is the same man who believes in sending retarded people to death row! Obama on the other hand intiated AND passed into legislation a LAW against racial rpofiling and making sure that police get punished for doing so. Eever heard of the his healkthplan: it’s access to those who can afford it at a lower cost while Hillary is making it a MANDATE even for those who can’t pay. So if you don’t buy her plan, you will get fined. And what about Obama making even Chicago State which is a predominately Black institution qualified to get HBCU federal funds.

I hope you read a book or two!

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Onemil02

Monday, January 28, 2008 /

at 167

I think he needs to start talking about it more. Right now I am still with Hillary.

at Bill

Please the Republicans are using reverse psychology. They don’t want Hillary on the ticket cause they are scared of her. They would beat Obama hands down in a landslide and I would put GOOD MONEY on that.

Also, Hillary is winning in polls in a the bigger states with more delegates for Super Tuesday. Obama has his work cut out for him.

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LOL

Tuesday, January 29, 2008 /

@ ANGELMINDED #82:

You make absolutely no sense. First of all, someone hypothetically being a “rookie” is not a “fault,” don’t get carried away by your hatred.

You’re calling people ignorant and you lack the cognitive ability to draw a parallel between my “nuclear family” comment and your silly remark. You actually believe that there aren’t black people who didn’t sit on the Clinton bandwagon. The fact that you consider Bill the “first black president” actually tells me all there is to know about you and your level of self worth.

You sound like a bitter bitch who got knocked up and/or deserted by a black dude. Don’t worry, no one really takes you seriously.

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LOL

Tuesday, January 29, 2008 /

@ ONEMIL02 #84:

First of all, none of Obama’s “main supporters” was arrested for anything, you blatant liar. It’s too bad your job as a paid drone renders you incapable of undertaking things like basic research. And for someone who obviously isn’t black, you sure know a heck of a lot about black people. Clueless moron.

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LOL

Tuesday, January 29, 2008 /

LOL # 90: Why do you even bother?

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LOL

Tuesday, January 29, 2008 /

# 106 CLEARMINDED Said: “Voting for *funding* of the war, once it was ALREADY STARTED only makes sense. It’s like caring for an unplanned baby once it’s born.”

lol.. where do you find the strength to keep going? It’s like teaching a toddler to wipe themselves.

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sfsinger

Tuesday, January 29, 2008 /

Check out some of the Black political blogs like too sense, assault on black people’s sanity, black women vote, jack and jill politics, etc. There’s also great coverage of voter ballot tampering in NH and video on Michelle Obama introducing her husband. They truly seem to love each other - it’s nice to see. The thing that excites me most about a potential Obama presidency is having our first of many I hope - Black First Family. I think Michelle is fiya - maybe she should have run! Oh - and there’s report that was just published where the candidates lay out their policies for combating poverty. McCain is the only Repbulican who participated by the way. Here’s a synopsis of Obama’s that I saw on the racialicious and the education and class web site: published by Pathways magazine

Barack Obama - “Tackling Poverty and Inequality in America”
(p. 14-16; PDF p. 16-18)

1. Replicate the Harlem Children’s Zone model and create Promise Neighborhoods in 20 cities across the country. (Sites will be selected by the government - cities and private entities will be required to pay 50% of costs to ensure involvement)
2. Expand early childhood education, federal grants and school loans
3. Sponsor Responsible Fatherhood and Healthy Families Legislation - providing financial support to fathers who pay their child support, cracking down on fathers who don’t; initiatives to stop the cycle of domestic violence that takes a toll on families
4. Expand the Nurse Family Partnership program which offers home visits to low income expectant mothers
5. Double funding for the Federal Jobs Access and Reverse Commute (JARC) program that helps low income individuals get to their jobs and day care services
6. Add $1 billion in funding for innovative transitional jobs and career pathway programs over five years
7. Triple the EITC for full time workers who make minimum wage; increase EITC benefits for families with three or more children; expand EITC benefits for childless workers
8. Create a universal healthcare plan which mandates child coverage and provides adults with an optional, low cost high quality plan
9. Fund $250 million per year to create a national network of public-private business incubators (to assist with start up advice and costs)
10. Earmark more SBA funds to minority businesses; direct more venture capital funding to untapped communities
11. Closing the digital divide; increasing internet access in urban/rural areas
12. Affordable housing trust fund to add 112,000 new affordable units in mixed income neighborhoods.
13. Roll back cuts to the Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) which provides housing assistance to inner cities.
14. Sponsor Stop Fraud Legislation to create a definition of mortgage fraud, strengthen lender penalties, and mandate mortgage companies to provide accurate info about options to reveal the true cost of the mortgage.

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darkphoenix84

Tuesday, January 29, 2008 /

Ta dow!!!!! Obama jus makin it RAIN on them hoes!! Im definitely gonna be BARACKIN da VOTE! Oh yeah!!!

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tinyy

Tuesday, January 29, 2008 /

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ANGEL_MINDED

Tuesday, January 29, 2008 /

Dayum is this a witch hunt on ‘angel_minded’ lol

I don’t have time to comment on the 10-15 (ok I’m exaggerating) posts that are directed at me. Because at the end of the day you’re still gonna believe that Obama is the better candidate…and I’ll still disagree.

So I’ll save what I KNOW to be true about Hilary until after the Feb. 5 elections. Until then have a great day! :)

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Onemil02

Tuesday, January 29, 2008 /

First of all, at LOL, I AM A BLACK person. So talk what you know and what you don’t. Second, one the people he has took a lot of money for his campaign did get arrested, the slumlord Hillary referred to in the debate. Third I didn’t call you any names, I respect your opinion and you beliefs and I feel you should respect mines. You like Obama and feel he is the man for the job that is your prerogative. I think Hillary is the right WOman for the job and will get it done, and will win the nomination. So before you go calling people morons, get your facts straight and know what you talking about.

@angel_minded
I just watched that on youtube and it really needs to get out. Hillary is the one for the job and all of the media knows it, but they are scared of her. That video interview with America Ferrera and Amber Tamberlyn just CONFIRMED my vote for sure. Made her seem very personable and passionate about what she is doing and what she will do.

HILLARY 2008!!

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ANGEL_MINDED

Tuesday, January 29, 2008 /

Maya Angelou recently expressed her support for Hillary Clinton

“As a child, Hillary Clinton was taught that all God’s children are equal, so as a mother she understood that her child wasn’t safe unless all children were safe.

I know what kind of president Hillary Clinton will be because I know who she is. Hillary Clinton has always been a strong woman and a passionate protector of families. For 35 years, that’s exactly what she has been doing.

Each generation of African Americans stands on the shoulders of those who came before. Today, the challenges facing us threaten the dreams we have had for our children. We need a president with the experience and strength to meet those challenges.

I am inspired by Hillary Clinton’s commitment and courage — a daughter, a wife, a mother — my girl.”

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Champagne23

Tuesday, January 29, 2008 /

You know, I get so sick and tired of people saying that Hillary Clinton has all of this presidential ‘experience’. Was she president before? No, her husband was! She’s riding his coat tail and leaning on his presidency terms as her ‘experience’. She didn’t know what the hell was going on at the White House, if she did there wouldn’t have been a Monica Lewinski scandal! She needs to go sit down somewhere and focus on being a New York Senator, something that she’s good at. Also, I would hope that you pick the candidate that shares your views on the issues that are important to you and affect us as a people the most. My gut instinct is telling me that she is sneaky and cannot be trusted. The more that I watch the news and keep up with her campaign, the more certain I feel about my instincts. She has ran a sneaky, underhanded campaign and God is not pleased with her and slowly but surely all the negative things that she’s done and said are being brought to the light. I’m not saying that Obama is perfect by any means, but I can honestly say that he’s lead one of the most honest, clean campaigns that I’ve witnessed in a long time. I’m so tired of all the mudslinging and no one really focussing on the issues. And the majority of what I’ve seen is coming from the Clinton camp. If you are a reputable candidate and you’re the best person for the job, then let your work speak for you. Don’t discredit your character by not acting professionally. Then again, maybe I’m giving her too much credit. Maybe it is within her character to act like this. If that’s the case, then that’s fine. She’s free to act however she see’s fit; but I personally don’t want anyone acting on my behalf that I can’t trust to do a good job and do right by this country. I think we’ve been screwed over enough as a country. It is definitely time for a change. Barack Obama for President! Barack the Vote!!!! :)

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the floacist

Tuesday, January 29, 2008 /

“She had NY, Cali, New Jersey, Florida, Colorado, basically all the west on lock.”

Um, New York is on the East coast boo. lol

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Wednesday, January 30, 2008 /

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Melissa

Monday, June 30, 2008 /

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