Sure doesn’t feel like the Grammys is over when people are still talking about it. Naturally since it was music’s “biggest night”, a lot of people have things to say.
One of those people were Aretha Franklin who seemed a tad offended at Beyonce and the rest of the Grammys for calling Tina Turner “the Queen” during her performance:
“I am not sure of whose toes I may have stepped on or whose ego I may have bruised between the Grammy writers and Beyoncé, however I dismissed it as a cheap shot for controversy. In addition to that, I thank the Grammys and the voting academy for my 20th Grammy and love to Beyoncé anyway.”
Okay, so the real Queen has spoken I suppose?…
Another famed artist spoke on the Grammys and has been receiving lots of attention for her opinion. Natalie Cole expressed her unhappiness with Amy Winehouse’s wins at ceremony. She said in this video and to people magazine at a Grammy party:
“I don’t think she should have won. I think it sends a bad message to our young people who are trying to get into this business, the ones who are trying to do it right and really trying to keep themselves together. We have to stop rewarding bad behavior.”
“I’m sorry. I think the girl is talented, gifted, but it’s not right for her to be able to have her cake and eat it too. She needs to get herself together.”
I mean, she could die. This isn’t something that’s cute and fun just to throw around in the press. The girl really has a problem, and I think for those of us who have been in the business long enough, we know the sacrifice it takes. This is about discipline and hard work, and you don’t get to just do your drugs and go onstage and get rewarded.”
I hear Natalie and I’m also not on the Winehouse bandwagon – but, the girl still walks away with five awards in the end.
Natalie might still be on crack for all we know? That’s like the crackhead calling the crackhead a drug addict…WTF! How many artists or entertainers or atheletes are really on drugs…ummm probably at least 70% or more!! She did an interview and admitted she was doing interviews while she was high and strung out…HATER!!!
wtf natilie is trying to motivate and speak up & stop the dumb ass people who cover starrs asses when it comes to drugs!!! and if she did what she did and cleaned herself up… this means she knows what needs to be done to starrs in this situation and how can u hate on aretha still her weight has nothibg to do with her damn comment!!! so damn just because she 1000 pounds maybe if you wont to validate your points dont say its because she fat …damn..
Menopause will work a woman’s emotions and create all kinds of sensitivities – hopefully that was the case with both Aretha and Natalie. The are too old and too big in terms of talents for this type of pettyness. Aretha getting her feelings hurt because someone called Tina “the Queen”. C’mon Aretha – you are bigger than that.
And I understand Natalie’s point, but she has to recognize the Grammy’s are not a character award, it’s about her music. Personally, I don’t believe she deserved 5 grammys, but it’s such a bandwagon industry that people got on her early and she rode that all the way through.
It’s like the whole world and even the icons are caught up in the hater cycle.
I can’t believe Natalie Cole had the nerve to even open her mouth on the subject and she was in Amy’ s shoes a decade ago. Natalie went on Oprah some years ago and talked about how she was on drugs and what it did to her life and how she was all better and it came out a year later that she was HIGH the whole time she was giving the interview. Talk about a hypocrite.
Aretha needs to be more upset with People magazine reporting that she bought her own hot dogs to an after grammy party – Recognize when you are really being insulted.
Well… then again, she could have eaten the hot dogs before she came into the party so there wouldn’t have been a story to report.
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The Grammys are not based on sales. LOL Album of the Year went to a Jazz album by Herbie Hancock beating out Kanye West. Do you know anyone that owns Herbie’s album? My point exactly. lol
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Wow, I was just thinking about that yesterday about how the Grammy’s did India Arie that year and had her walk away empty handed while Alicia Keys walked away with so many awards she needed two people to help her carry them. SMH lol Maybe that was just another light-skinned vs dark-skinned issue, but it’s whatever.
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So that makes it ok to be on drugs then dumbass ? What the hell are you talking about. I never udnerstood this idol worship of celebs that have you sounding like a damn fool all in the defendign of their stupid actions. I beleive you are the same person who keeps postig under differen’t names becuase your not making any sence.
What the hell is she having to hate for, Amy whinehouse aint nobody compared to her, thats natalie cole fool.
Stop posting under different names psycho.
AWWWW QUEEN RI-RI JUST WANTS SOME ATTENTION!! – I had no idea that folks paid so much attention to that performance all I heard was “GIVE IT UP FOR THE QUEEN!” and that was all I thought of it ..but old folks can get surly so whatever
@244-lol are u seriuos!! hot dogs ? man !
and assholes are like opinions so wtih Natalie I just take it as that, If I’m not mistaken there have been several artists that have did thier drugs , got thier awards, and went on stage ie Ray Charles, and is there a rock star u can think of who actually did a perfromance while sober? IDK-all in all she does seem a bit hypocritical though
TINA IS BEING CALLED THE QUEEN OF MUSIC, PERIOD. SHE IS THE ONLY FEMALE ARTIST THAT SINGS ROCK, R/B, COUNTRY, GOSPEL AND POP AND SOUNDS LEGIT SINGING ALL GENRE. SHE IS THE ONLY THAT WOMAN THAT FILED FOOTBALL STADIUMS ALL OVER THE WORLD AND STILL CAN IF SHE COMES BACK TO THE STAGE. I LOVE ARETHA, BUT SHE CAN’T DO THAT. SO I’M GOING TO DUBBED TINA, JUST LIKE THE WHITE MEDIA AND CALL HER THE QUEEN OF MUSIC PERIOD. I THINK BEYONCE GOT IT RIGHT BY JUST CALLING HER “THE QUEEN”
I think that it’s such a shame that a woman of Aretha’s age is being so petty…..we know you are the queen of soul……but you can’t knock Tina Turner who can shake anyone to a frenzy…….Tina is the queen to what she does…..the whole situation is corny as hell!!!
As far as Natalie Cole…….she should’ ve kept her comments and thoughts to herself….it’s a beautiful thing you are past your previous addictions….but don’t knock Amy Winehouse cause she is going through something….but her music is fire!!!!
Lol…Ms. ‘Retha is hilarious. I did hear Tina referred to as the Queen…Queen of what though? ‘Retha is the Queen of Soul. Tina should definitely be the Queen of something else. I do think someone was trying to be comical though. But Ms. ‘Retha should’ve left on that coat. What makes her think those little straps are going to work?I DONT UNDERSTAND! Big breastssss, take big straps.
Natalie needs to calm herself…was she not a druggie. And personally I never thought she could sing anyways so to me it seems that she made it because of her daddy. Amy Whinehouse is weird and supercracked out but her cd was fiyah. “To my Blake incarcerated” lol speech was hilarious.
~1505
you get a grammy for your music not for how you’re perceived… i do agree that amy needs to get her shit together but musically speaking, she deserved to win those grammys…
Since when does beyoncé opinion not only matters but reflect what hollywood is thinking? Its beyoncé of course a “queen” is going to be a representation of what she is fighin so hard to be …
Miss aretha needs to calm down of course she won’t get the recognition she deserve because youngings don’t pay respect to anybody that don’t look “hot” selon leurs critéres but if i had her voice i would not worry about simple matters like those
She needs to chill
You have to remember that Natalie has said that she can speak out on Amy because of her experience as a former drug addict. Amy is a talent, so is Whitney, so is R. Kelly and countless other musicians. The music is the music, their personal lives is quite another.
IT’S QUITE APPARENT THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE ON THIS SITE HAVE NEVER WORKED FOR ANYTHING FOR A PROLONGED PERIOD OF TIME, OR ACHIEVED ANY TYPE OF GREATNESS OR ACCOLADES…WHY? BECAUSE YOU BITCHES ARE SO UNEMPATHETIC TOWARD ARETHA’S COMPLAINT….SHE’S WORKED VERY HARD THROUGHOUT HER CAREER AND THE TITLE “QUEEN” WAS GIVEN TO HER TO SIGNIFY HER PLACE IN THE INDUSTRY….AND FOR SOME FAT DUMB BITCH LIKE BEYONCE TO COME ALONG AND LOOSELY USE THE WORD FOR SOMEONE SHE WORSHIPS IS JUST IRRESPONSIBLE AND FUCKIN CLUELESS, THOUGH I’M NOT SHOCKED CAUSE IF YOU LISTEN CAREFULLY WHEN BEYONCE IS NOT TALKING, YOU CAN HEAR THE MARBLES ROLLING AROUND IN HER DAMN SKULL.
AS PETTY AS IT MAY HAVE SOUNDED TO SOME, I UNDERSTAND WHERE ARETHA MAY HAVE FELT A LITTLE SLIGHTED. LET’S USE YOU AND SOME OF YOUR CO-WORKERS……SAY YOU WORK VERY VERY HARD FOR YEARS, AND YOU BECOME A JUDGE, AND YOU’RE ADDRESSED BY “YOUR HONOR.” AND SAY SOME DUMB AIRHEADED NEW COMER, COMES ALONG, AND CALL YOUR CO-WORKER, WHO’S NOT A JUDGE, AND YET IN SCHOOL, “YOUR HONOR.” DON’T FRONT LIKE YOU WON’T FEEL A BIT SLIGHTED…….THEY NEVER SAID ARETHA WAS FIGHTING MAD ABOUT THIS; JUST SAID SHE WAS WONDERING WHO SHE PISSED OFF.
AND OF COURSE, MATTHEW KNOWLES, THE ULTIMATE GREEDY BASTARD, WOULD RESPOND LIKE HE’S REFERRING TO BEYONCE AS “GOD.” TALKING ABOUT, I’M NOT TAKING THIS TO BEYONCE…FIRST OFF BITCH, YOU AINT GOTTA TAKE SHIT TO HER, THAT BITCHES EAR IS ALWAYS TO THE RADIO AND EYES ON THE INTERNET…SHE PROBABLY KNEW ABOUT THIS SHIT BEFORE HIS OLD ASS GOT UP OUT OF BED….THEY ARE A BUNCH OF FAKE ASS GREEDY BASTARDS….HE DIDN’T GIVE ARETHA NO KIND OF RESPECT, AND IN FACT, SPOKE LIKE A NEW COMER TO THE INDUSTRY, AS IF HE WAS REFERRING TO SOME RANDOM SINGER…..HE COULD HAVE BEEN A LITTLE MORE RESPECTFUL IN HIS RESPONSE, INSTEAD OF BEING DISMISSIVE AS HE WAS, LIKE SHE’S BEING RIDICULOUS….THAT’S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BLACKS AND NON-BLACKS….IF THAT WERE MADONNA THAT FELT SLIGHTLY, THE SPOKESMAN ON THE OPPOSING SIDE WOULD HAVE BEEN ALOT MORE RESPECTFUL AND TASTEFUL IN HIS WORDS….MATTHEW KNOWLES JUST SHOWED HOW MUCH OF A “NIGGA” HE IS…..
YES, ARETHA’S FAT…….BUT SHE IS INDEED THE FUCKIN QUEEN…..
I don’t know why I wanted to say this…after so many of you said such cruel things about Aretha (and I only read maybe 50 of the 300 odd posts, so I can only imagine what sorts of horrible things others said), I promised to write this post off forever but Aretha is mad because Beyonce listed an entire body of legendary singers and said “but only one has it all” And, went on to call Tina the embodiment of all these wonderful things she’d said about the other singers, “The Queen” of this entire body. That is insulting, people… And, the fact that Aretha is actually called “The Queen” made it especially insulting to her… but I have a feeling it wouldn’t have been lost on her, otherwise. This is the problem when you don’t think! The introduction Beyonce did is not unlike the many other introductions we’ve seen, the only difference is that THEY DO NOT CALL NAMES. It’s bad to try to replicate something when you’re not that bright. Other artists summoned particular styles and characteristics of certain musical periods…NEVER SPECIFIC ARTISTS. To “name names” (remember that Seinfeld episode? lol) means saying “all these people were good but could never be what you are”….And, I can’t get how Beyonce didn’t know that…smh
Some of you people need to seek therapy. Seriously.
Some of you guys are so stupid!
Natalie is not hating on Amy…she definitely understands where she is in her life.
She just wants Amy to get some help…just like everyone else should want the same thing.
How is it on one hand, people talk about how illiterate and inarticulate Beyonce is, and then at the same time blame her for the introduction she gave to Tina Turner?
If you think she doesn’t have a thought of her own, how was she able to formulate such an itroduction? You can’t have it both ways.
You know damn well she didn’t write that – it was written for her and she rehearsed and repeated it.
Anyway – this isn’t about Beyonce, it is about an Icon reducing herself to foolishness about a word that everyone and anyone can use. If you know you earned the title, no one can take it from you. If you are confident in who you are – it doesn’t matter what you are called, it only matters what you will answer to.
Natalie Cole makes a lot of sense. Obviously national security felt the same that’s why she wasn’t allowed entry.
SHE SO RITE WHO DA HELL BEYONCE THINK SHE IS. AND PEOPLE WITH THERE SLICK COMMMENT TO.
all i know is tina IS the queen of rock & roll. end of discussion. beyonce was right. aretha be happy with your queen of soul title . you can’t have everything, unless it’s in regards to food.
blah at aretha and natalie cole step back!! amy is in rehab at the moment getting herself 2gether she is on the road 2 recovery. her grammys were well deserved no one in the industry can touch her right now. not even alicia keys in my opinion i was dissapointed by her grammy performances. neway keep doing your thing amy reppin 4 the uk!
Natalie needs to STFU, Amy is getting her shit together & should be rewarded for her talent & for trying to get her life back on track, how you gone say somone don’t deserve an award, thats some BS!
And Aretha needs to grow up 4real
These celebs have nothing to bother them. I mean, Beyonce is a Tina clone, so therefore to her, Tina is the queen.
Is it not all relative. Or, is it just hype. It could even be Beyonce’s team fabricating the story so that her name stays in the media- just kidding.
MAMY WINEHOUSE IS THE GIRL…NOBODY IS PERFECT NATALIE SO STOP HHATIN MAMA….OK??? WE STILL LOVE AMY AND MAYBE HER FANS MIGHT HHELP HER GET ON THE ROAD TO RECOVERY..NOBODY IS PERFECT U SSHOULD KNOW THAT NATALIE…SHOULD THE WORLD TURN THEIR BACK ON U BECAUSE WORD ON THE STREETS IS U HOPED AND SKIPPED THROUGH TTHE ROCKS TOO? SO ANYWAYZ FOR YOU. GO AMY WE LOVE YOU GGIRL….STAY UP…….FUCK THEM HATAZ
Natalie…shut up! You were an 8 ball away from an overdose in your heyday!
Aretha Franklin…I’m sorry your highness!!!! SMH whatever!!!!
Am I the only one who remembers that Natalie Cole was a crackhead! She had a lot of nerve!
Natalie needs to sit down somewhere. She acts like we forgot about her bout in the 80′s and 90′s. As for Aretha she is to damn sensitive, FIRST she says it didn’t bother her but she speaks on it. It looks like the old heads are really feelin the young people blues. GET OVER IT LADIES…….
Ann and Nancy Wilson are the Queens of Rock and Roll, yall…come on…smh Tina is phenomenal and I love her like you, but you’ve got to be a bit short on Rock knowledge to ever let your mind go there…
BBlack Americans are so catty. I am so pissed at fat ass Aretha Franklin. You wwould think she’d have words of wisdom for the young and up coming. But she is hhatin Now I see why she thinks showing all that clevage is sexy. NOT!! There are sseveral Queens that reign at once. The Queen of Sheba, The Queen of England
etetc,etc. THERE IS MORE THAN ONE QUEEN. We live in America Aretha! Get it it together. If Aretha was so concerned about the Emmys, she had a whole
frfreaking year to perpare. She could have been up there too. But she isn’t what the ppeople want to see. Sorry ReRe. Fat is not in let alone slobbly fat. She should know this by now. Now, what Aretha needs to do is join another Queen,Queen Latifah. Yeah, do the Jenny Craig buddy system like Kristen and Valerie. You didn’t see Valerie shooting Kristen down. Instead they joined forces and did their thang. They are both shining now. She (Aretha) is a nasty woman. It could be her and Keisha doing their thang on stage. Let’s see what she has to say next year. She is a hot mess. Don’t hate, celebrate!
To #12 and everyone else that is taking the former coke addict Natalie Cole’s hating side, sit down! Natalie Cole is the LAST person to talk about someone and their drug habits. Y’all forget to easily and quickly. Amy Winehouse is more talented than Natalie Cole will ever be–not that that excuses Winehouse’s drug abuse ’cause it doesn’t… If you’re going to condemn someone though, do it fairly and don’t just trash one party ’cause the other one has been sober for the last few years, and the other is a recovering addict.
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Kirstie and Vallery did NOT get along…lol That’s just a funny little tidbit that sorta dispels your theory…
And, stop calling Aretha “fat,” don’t you have a heavier woman in your family? A Gran or Aunt or maybe even your Mom? Come on… I know you do… we are unhealthy eaters…it dates back to slavery, to the sorts of foods we found growing in the wild and the specific preparations that could make things last in a paper sack in the hot sun…right? and Aretha is a Grade A cook…her soulfood recipes are famous. I think she’s the typical African American matriarch…and it’s only insulting if you’re hell-bent on conformism… Maybe it’s unhealthy but so is skipping meals and being rail thin or baking your skin to the point of suburban soccer mom orange…
Being overweight is one of MANY problems facing women in this country… Cigs will do your heart in just as excess body fat will… Stress will do you in… Sleep will make you die fast (too much or too little of it…really)
The mind is the shepherd of the body…if you’re fu**ed in the head, nasty enough to call your elders such vile names, you’ve probably got some silent tick waiting to send you into some pathological state…you just don’t know it… but, whatever…Aretha’s gold.
Her 20th win! Aretha is definitely the Queen of the Grammy’s. She can add that to her resume.
If only Natalie got the same “teugh” love she wouldn’t have been taking fans money while under the influence and LYING about it for years. Natalie-GO SUCK ROCKS.
That should have been “tough love”
Aretha needs to shut her fat ugly ass up and go lose some damn weight… having her big long ass tits hanging all over the place!
i cant stand when a recovering addict such as cocaine sniffing natlie think she is better than amy as i recall yo asswas still gitting awardsand was high as hell on stage …..watch out nat….. it takes is one heartache and yo ass might be sniffin again so stfu …. ARETHA YOU WILL ALWAYS BE QUEEN bey is just a pup she dont knw any better ma …………………. i got yo back
#277 speaking of ugly and needing to lose something…extensions should be really expensive and well thought out…Your hair looks like dyed stray hair with koolaid.
Elle, she is fat. Not PHAT either. She is very sloppy. There is a way to carry yourself. Shes a mess. She needs to hook up with Monique. Her clothes are horrible, so is her makeup. She knows the industry and they don’t put fat to the front. She knows this. So she shouldn’t be so petty and show out. She should be plotting for next years stepping out. Val and Krist may not have gotten along as you say, but they were professional about it. I never hard about them beefin. And in the end, the job was done. Patty looks good. She isn’t a stick. But she knows how to dress. I’m not a size 2 or 12 but I know when to tuck the girls away. Unlike Aretha, ILL.
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just for the record amy did get her visa bcause she hasn’t actually been convicted for any drug offences. it was just 2 late 4 her to fly over to th u.s and her drug use only started after the release 4 back 2 black in her frank days she was clean.
“Being a star is about IMAGE and fuck the fact she can sing her IMAGE is horrible but she was rewarded thats the point!!!”
That’s where you’re wrong. Amy is a musician-period. She isn’t an actress. The only thing she has to do is make good music and she’s done that. Manufactured pop singers are all about image. She doesn’t have to shake her booty or dress scantily because she writes her own music and plays her own instruments as well as sing her own songs. You only need an “image” when the talent isn’t there so you have to give your audience something else to focus on (dancing, fashion etc).
“called Beyonce dumb is the dumb one because she is the richest woman in rnb and on top of the game so sit down somewhere. some of ya’ll are so stupid.”
Having lots of money doesn’t make one intelligent-it makes them rich.
“save that “They are not role models just musicians ” bullshit
If the bitch smoked so much crack she sounds like a damn fool onstage she shouldn’t be gettign recognized for her work.”
She still sounded better than 90% of the performances that night.
@JSCENE AND H DIZZLE… Im feeling yall 100% cause looking at this post I guess its cool to be a Crackhead cause thats whats all these fools are saying so if ya mama wanna smoke her knee caps off as long as she can make a mean meatloaf hey smoke away mama! Makes me wonder how easy it would be for yall to start smoking crack ya damn selves and for whoever said when she came out in 2003 she was big in the UK.. thats just it the UK and how all yall know she getting herself together I mean I know plenty of yall condone crack smoking were you hitting the pipe with her and entered with her?? Natalie speak from Experience.. yall call her a hypocrite but the last time I checked she BEEN got her shit together and @HALCYONC Yeah she is a musician so what she writes her own music if the bitch so high she forget the words or can barely pronounce them then what.. oh I guess thats cool I mean the bitch look like she’s a walking corpse and thats cool I dont want my child to think its cool to look like death and be a crackhead as long as she can write a lyric and hold a note Fuckin ridiculous the VALUES some people have in this world!!
Natalie is so stupid for that comment. winning a grammy has nothing to do with your personal life!!! its about your MUSiCAL TALENTS! and Amys got a lot of talent and is worthy of her wins @ the grammys.
What amazes me is Arethas’ anger over an inocuous statement by Beyonce. I would like to see Aretha this incensed as I am with her gross obesity. There are worse things happening in this world Aretha; your deadly weight gain for one.
#52 Thank You!!! Finally, a comment that makes sense. N Cole isn’t throwing stones. She know that she could have died from her reckless behavior yrs ago. The point is, she was rewarded for her work after she changed her life around. Yeah the Grammys celebrates music talent but that rehab song should not be honored. So what if it has a catchy beat.
It’s a lot of disrespectful talk about Aretha. She has a right to feel that way. We don’t know what goes on behind the scenes. You all are acting like she called somebody’s moma a so and so. Take a chill pill yall.
Aretha – stfu. Should Mary step up and say how you hated and didn’t want her or anyone else performing with you because you don’t have the pipes? She played herself and is hating.
Natalie is RIGHT. They call for celebs/artists to be role models and then you go and give that druggie all those awards? She couldn’t even get through her speech she was so twisted.
Big up to the real talents like Beyonce and Alicia.
amy should not have got a sinle award.since when are criminals rewardet.. she should go to prison. anyone who buys her cd’s supports her drug addiction.the croweds of fans supporting herwikth their awwws and ohhhs poor amy are in fact saying:it is ok that you take drugs.so what motivation wsould amy have to stop the drugs
amy should not have got a sinle award.since when are criminals rewardet.. she should go to prison. anyone who buys her cd’s supports her drug addiction.the crowds of fans supporting her with their awwws and ohhhs poor amy are in fact saying:it is ok that you take drugs.so what motivation wsould amy have to stop the drugs.if you really wanna help her don’t put her on a pedestal