#145…so its ok that you be on beyonce’s nuts like that and you don’t even know her?? trust me, I love beyonce..but nobody’s perfect…and you must obviously wanna be like her if you went to that extreme to defend her when MAJORITY of the debate on here is natalie cole, amy winehouse, tina turner, and aretha franklin….go get a life

DOG!!!! SOME OF YALL IS GOING REAL HARD ON OL RETHA, LIKE SHE STOLE YOUR MONEY! I DON’T AGREE WITH WHAT SHE SAID BUT SOME OF THE NAME CALLING COULD’VE BEEN KEPT TO YOURSELVES. I WASN’T GOING TO SAY ANYTHING AT ALL ABOUT ARETHA, BECAUSE I KNOW IT WOULDN’T HAVE BEEN NICE.

AND I’M GETTING REAL SICK OF FOLKS USING THE ROLE MODEL EXCUSE TO USE AGAINST WINEHOUSE. YOUNG FOLKS PARENTS SHOULD BE THEIR KIDS’ ROLE MODEL FIRST. PARENTS ALSO NEED TO REGULATE WHAT THEIR KIDS CAN AND CAN NOT LISTEN TO.

she need to stop tripping because nobody even said what tina was the queen of….just the queen….and she is the queen at what she used to do so whats the big damn deal…..get on the writiers if you have a issue but bee just said what she was supposed to say……..drama queen is what you are ms.franklin,but nobody will deny you are the queen so knock it off

@MISSISSIPPI G_DDAMN

Again i know what you mean for example i didn’t even know Christte Micheles album was out until i searched her on the internet and foun some of her music on youtube, so thats how i knew her album was out and its good music so i went and bought her album.

lol @ #2

yea i think some people need to focus on their health rather than grammy-made titles The grammys have traditionally ignored black music so they shouldn’t be the authority on who is queen, king, princess, whatever!

and natalie is a true hypocritic idiot. i watched something on the news where she said “these young people” need to learn it’s not okay to “be crazy”… bitch please- there are plenty of old people doing wrong. and amy’s addiction is not contingent on a grammy- she has a problem and not giving her a grammy isn’t gonna make her well!

get ya life together.

why cant aretha be mad shit i would feel the same but the only thing wrong is how she went about SAYING IT. beyonce called her queen with no detail of what so maybe she did feel offended and everybody is titled to the thoughts if she felt disrepected y cant she voice that? BECAUSE she BIG? i think not just because aretha aint six 6 dont make her unable to voice her voice because all i see is that people saying “shut you fat ass up or “aretha cant say nothin she needs to loses weight” or she needs to sto sweatin bullets” so what if she is huge does that mean she cant talk…. shit if thats so i would say fuck yall too just like aretha did to the grammys and keep it movin..she is the queen of r&b everyone knows that and tina is of rock and roll…

@ the cole comment
she right altough grammys are based on talents “i hope” people cant keep sayin o well least she can sing.. thats bull shit and is sendin the wrong message and this is not just for amy but whoever.. drugs are bein seen more and more as cool and we losin more lives due to it.. it is a problem and thats the message people (starS) should be sending…. and come on be real some awards arent just based of your TALENTS..

This people make me sick. Tina is the Queen of Rock and Soul and Amy deserved the awards she got.

# 150 LUV$ - I do Love Beyonce, but I don’t want to be like her because I’m comfortable in my own skin, she is NOT perfect, but calling Tina Turner the Queen was not a damn Sin! LOL… some of you kill me! And I’m not on her nuts 1) because she doesnt have a pair and 2) the haters are the ones on her nuts or should I say (her biggest damn fans) they keep up with her more than I do, its just funny I can never come to this site without seeing a thread about her…. like I said shes the one you all love to hate! I’m secure with myself doll, I dont aspire to be like Bey, but if you could get the TRUTH out of some of these haters, you’d be suprised what you’d find out !

UGH TO MANY IMMATURE STATEMENTS ABOUT ARETHA I PERSONALLY LOOK AT HER AS THE QUEEN OF SOUL AND MAYBE TINA TURNER THE QUEEN OF ROCK OR SOMETHING AND I AGREE WITH COLE 100%

51 preach damn preach! I’m wit ya!
Lol rollin on the flow at big bird aretha, TINA is the queen of rock in roll. a true dive would not give a shyt they would know who they are. ya was jealous b/c ol tina still sexy as hell and can still get it. so next time ya bout ta open ya big mouth on baby mamas b and tina pop a biscuit ya mouth lol love ya queen of Soul!

you got to be kidding me w/o IKE there was no tina so be[dumb]yonce need to check herself before she wrecks her self IT WAS A INSULT callin tina t a queen there is no other I DON’T GIVE A DAMN WHAT YOU SING hip hop, pop, rap, rnb, AREATHA PAVED THE ROAD FOR YOU WANNA BE’S. jay z ain’t only got you crazy in love you’re just f’n crazy if you think tina t is even on the same level.YOU sok’n you sound like whitney when she said she was bigger than the beatles. DUMB COMMENT ……….. YOU BIG DUMMIE……..

CAN WE GET A NEW POST PLEASE, BOTH TOPICS HAVE BEEN WARN OUT…

gO #160…I AGREE!!

I think it is more than the Queen title that she is mad over. Beyonce basically siad that the women she named were good but Tina was better than all of them. How would you feel if someone named you then said someone was better than you and you are sitting front row. That intro would have been great for a Tina Turner Tribute but not the Grammys where many of the Divas she named were watching or sitting in the audience.

natalie is abeaut and shes right. she shouldnt have won i thot she was on something.. but now its her time to shape up and get it right!!!!!!!!!! and natyalie ur beau-tiful

@ 153

That’s exactly what I mean - you had to search her out (i don’t know if you heard her on the radio first, so I’ll assume here), and I bet she had to gather a following based on word of mouth, which then got the radio to take notice.

It’s all about searching out and supporting.

BUGABOO THE WHOLE STATEMENT YOU JUST MADE IS DUMB! YOU NEED TO CHECK YOU HISTORY AND FACTS! TINA BECAME MORE SUCCESFUL AFTER IKE HONEY! AND ANOTHER THING TINA IS THE QUEEN OF ROCK AND ROLL! SOME OF YOU MAKE YOURSELVES LOOK STUPID TRYING TO MAKE BEYONCE OUT TO BE STUPID! GOOD DAY!

Amy’s work should be seperated from her behaviour. I don’t agree with natalie cole good work should not go unnoticed or unrewarded because of pesonal problems, that’s just stupid

:heehee:….

LET IT BE KNOWN THAT ARETHA IS THE “QUEEN OF SOUL”….BUT SHE AINT THE ONLY QUENN…SHIT

BEYONCE A QUEEN…
DIANA ROSS A QUEEN….
OPRAH WINFREY A QUEEN….
MARY J. BLIDGE A QUEEN….
HALLE BERRY A QUEEN….

SHIT SHE AINT THE ONLY PERSON THAT CAN HAVE THE TITLE QUEEN ……

CLEOPATRA A QUEEN….
SARA VAUGHNN,
ELLA,

THEY JUST TRIPPIN CAUSE BEE SAID IT…
LET IT GO…DAMN CRY BABIES…

i meN HER DAD IS NAT KING COLE I THINK WHAT SHE SAYS IS UNFORGETTABLE lol u should listen she has a point.

I agree with 106 with all my heart. And I just wanted to say mis Tina Turner my queen if you’re reading this will you plz plz plzzzzzz come rob my cradle?

What the hell is Natalie Cole talking about?…..Amy Winehouse deserved every Grammy award that she received because her album was FIRE! Grammy’s are awarded for MUSIC (not good moral standards) lol! It had nothing to do with her drug addiction or anything else that goes on in her personal life……people need to stop hating!

:)…..:)

I agree with Natalie Icouldn’t help but think the same thing and that being the only reason why she had such a big year….

They always have a troubled poster child and Amy is just that for the moment…she truly does have talent but then again she’s battling something even bigger-herself…and the way they talk about her in the media isn’t cool….

If she wasn’t caught on tape smoking crack or being photographed bugging out all the time I don’t think she would’ve had that much buzz around her and especially not that many grammys

Here it is for me:

I bought Amy’s album. It wasn’t all that good TO ME. I played it only once. Apart from the song with the Marvin Gaye/Tammi Terrell sample, nothing compelled me to play it again. Her vocal style was just too ugly sounding. As she began her public slide, I matched the voice to what she was prtraying to the public (spitting at the audience, smoking crack, looking like a dirty, infested dope fiend from Alphabet City, canceling shows), and it made sense. She sounds like how she looks and acts. She just has a nasty, stink, evil vibe.

If that works for some people, fine.

SMH Aretha is a hot mess. She needs to focus on finding a new stylist rather than thinking about Beyaki Knowles…..I mean really was it that serious???

WHY IS NATALIE COLE TALKING ABOUT A WOMAN WHO HAS DRUG PROBLEMS WHEN NATALIE COLE DEALT WITH HER OWN DEMONS OF DRUG ABUSE FOR MOST OF HER YOUNG CAREER…..SOUNDS PRETTY HYPOCRYTICAL TO ME

What really bothers me is that people take these situations so personally…. not only do Aretha, Amy and Natalie need prayer, but a bunch of you on this board too! The “Queen” argument is the result of an extremely lauded and talented woman who has become so wrapped up in a title that she can’t allow someone else’s shine. For all of you who are offended on Aretha’s behalf….please get over it. Beyonce did not say the Queen of Soul— she said the Queen. That is her opinion. Aretha has been dubbed the Queen, but there is no copyright— there is no law— there is no rulebook saying that she needs to be the only Queen. I am sorry. I love Aretha, but this just sounds like insecurity and a need to get attention and I want her to check herself and realize she’s done too much in her career to tarnish it by looking like “old battleax with an attitude”. It’s not becoming, it’s not necessary and frankly, it’s beneath her. And as for those who have critized Beyonce— Tina is here Queen just like Patti is mine! If you have a problem come see me!

As for Ms. Cole. While I do understand her point that encouraging drug use is not appropriate, the Grammys are to honor musical talent. Amy is a very talented individual and while I agree that she needs help, her album was fresh and different in TODAY’s era of music. She won based on that alone. This album was getting praised before it came out that she was actually on drugs— the fact is that it became POPULAR afterwards. I heard the CD before I really understood the gravity of her addition and probably would have shied away if all this had come out– but I am glad that I didn’t. I too love Ledsi and I agree that awards should abound, but that does not take away from Amy. This is after all a mainstream institution (music academy) and they give us our categories— ones that Amy did NOT win in. We know that we have to have our own to get it appreciated. It ain’t right, it is!! So why blame the artist for living her life and making the kind of music that feels right to her. And @84 Natalie was getting awards and accolades as she was delving deeper and deeper into drugs.

Natalie cole must have forgotten that she was young once and on drugs and no one ever gave up on her. Maybe this will help winehouse still performing and being acknowledged for her talent just maybe this will be her high…..

Oh and it is common for Best New Artist to have released music before they are entered into this category. Amy did release Frank before Back in Black, but that was not a U.S. release yet. Back in Black was the first CD that was put out stateside. The Grammys are an American award.

Wow @ Aretha!… She she own the copyrights™ to the term “The Queen?” I think not… Some people see her as the queen and other folk might see Tina as Queen - big whoop… Re needs to concentrate on loosing weight and trying to at LEAST look HALF way as good as Tina does…

And Nat? I truly wish she would fall back… If that’s the case then, she wouldn’t have ANY CREDIT WHAT SO EVER b/c during her “Heyday - she was a str8 Coke, Base, Crackhead”…

*Does She* ^^^

NATALIE LOOKING LIKE YO DADDY IN A WIG. HOW BOLD OF YOU TO HATE SO ACUTELY ; AIN’T NOBODY CALL YOU OUT WHEN YOU WERE RUNNING FOR THE BORDER. IF YOU REALLY CARED YOU WOULD REACH OUT IN PRIVATE TO AMY
. I SMELL A CRY FOR ATTENTION; WE SEE YOU.

UNFORGETTABLE IS WHAT YOU ARE.

I agree 200% with Natalie Cole! finally someone has the guts to say it! thank you!

Beyonce’s introduction was less about a sincere homage and more about putting the perfect words in the perfect lines so as not to lose the beat to her own ridiculous diddies.
As for Natalie’s comment. Amy has studied jazz for years and she’s written the most sincere, inner-directed, and prolific lyrics. And, anyone who would dare use her personal life as a wrench is a hater. I’m for Amy all the way and I look forward to her next cd (although it may take a few years)…SMH@haters. People throw that word around here because they can’t stand seeing negative comments about their favorite artist, but when it’s truly a case of “hating” nobody gets it…

And, Tina is not Beyonce’s idol. She likes the way Tina dances…she had that same feeling all of us had when we saw Angela Basset doing “Proud Mary” and then when we saw the actual live clip of Tina Turner and her dancers going crazy… And, I think this because watching Beyonce during that performance you could tell that the similarities end with the dancing. Her voice does NOT sound like Tina’s, their sounds couldn’t be more different. So, it’s funny that this Aretha thing should come up…because when I heard Beyonce’s voice shrieking and falling away from Tina’s, I thought Beyonce should have been in the Aretha performance…her voice is more R&B, it is NOT Rock and Roll…She was like a girl doing karaoke up there with Tina.

And, I’m out…I can’t believe you could be so cruel to Aretha. SMH

ARETHA IS ONE FAT GREASY BITCH!! I WOULD LOVE TO PUT SOME POPEYES CHICKEN AND HOT SAUCE ALL OVER HER BODY AND EAT IT OFF. I LOVE ME SOME FAT BITCHES!!

wow at these comments and Natalie and Aretha’s statements lol

Ok some of yall are real ignorant and naive about this Natalie Cole situation first of all when Natalie was out in the beginning she wasn’t on drugs… Amy Winehouse has been known for drugs ever since she hit scene I mean look at her!!! LOOK AT HER!!! Mary J started out clean, so did Whitney,, so forth and so on second have you ever SEEN Mary J hit the pipe, or Whitney or anyone else Physically watched smoke crack NO but you can youtube Amy’s ass getting fucked up! then has a song talking bout how she wont go to rehab! The point is most of th many artist that were addicts yeah you knew it BUT not from proof like that other than a crazy interview of bad performance! Amy is a walking billboard from CRACK! If you say otherwise you’re fuckin BLIND everyone’s seen that video hell did anyone realize that her performance was done in London cause they (US) wouldn’t give her as visa HELLO! Natalie is saying its sending the wrong message and it is it shows that you can smoke all the crack you want and be a disgrace as long as you have takent its OKAY! Being a star is about IMAGE and fuck the fact she can sing her IMAGE is horrible but she was rewarded thats the point!!!

whoever called rihanna a pop queen needs to be in a mental hospital. She can’t even go plat so she’s not the Queen of anything. Aretha is the Queen of Soul and Tina is the Queen of Rock n Roll. Aretha is jealous that Beyonce admires Tina more than her. She didn’t call Tina the queen of soul she just said the queen which is true. Whoever called Beyonce dumb is the dumb one because she is the richest woman in rnb and on top of the game so sit down somewhere. some of ya’ll are so stupid.

elle stfu and sit down. dumb ass.

As much as I love Aretha’s music, but she’s deranged. She’s had severa alchol problems, she overeats, and dresses like a four year old child. She’s had more than enough success and shouldn’t be concerned with a funky title.
Natalie drug problems were so bad she was hustling on the streets. She didn’t ge right until her mom put her shit in receivership via the court system. People are judged on artistry, not their abuses. If they were judged on their lifestyle, there wouldn’t be many artist performing.

I love Natalie Cole and she is correct in what she says. But the Grammy’s is a about the Music only. Natalie have you forgotten that you had your own
battle with drug use? You could have died! I could understand her more if she
a scenario on how she made it through the storm.

rdNatalie needs to stop and reflect back to her own drug use back in her hay day! Amy was awarded for her talent not what she does on her own time. Natalie, I can recall you being HIGH AS HELL back in the day doing interviews with Barbara Walter’s in them…you’ve done the same thing so don’t judge her. As a member of her class you should reach out to her. Your statement was VERY hypocritical regardless of you getting your life together. I’M JUST SAYIN’

A Aretha is the Queen of Soul.

Ti Tina is the Queen of Rock’N’ Roll.

Natalie Cole needs to mind her own business she was on drugs for a very long time. Amy was rewarded for her talent not her personal problems.

Well since ‘Retha wants to be called “Queen” so bad. Besides her being the “Queen of Soul Food”, she can also be called “Dairy Queen”.

Did she coin the phrase “let’em all eat cake”, because from the looks of it, she ain’t been sharing!

She one popcorn kernel away from a stroke/heart attack.

#190 I do agree that Rihanna is not the queen of anything..but honey, she did go platinum. Good Girl Gone Bad sold like 3-4 million…platinum is at least selling one million. She is very well on her way….

And people need to stop putting Beyonce on this pedastle….ok she’s rich..who cares. Comparing her to superstars that have a plethora of albums and performances under their belt is stupid. Sure enough, B is doing her thang…but she only just released her second album. Being the lead singer of a group doesn’t constitute single success…and she still haven’t made millions like that stupid ass Britney Spears…why??? Because she’s only on her second album…come on people

ok Ms. Natalie Cole has a point and she shouuld know huh…didnt she get rewarded for her drug usage when she was singing “this will be” and ummm “our love” no one could reach her then when she was strung out so maybe she should reach out to Amy who I absolutely love. Maybe she should tell her how many tears her mama had to cry to make sure she didnt O.D. It does send a twisted message I guess…Maybe Amy shouldve lost to someone else who smokes their crack in there mansion closet huh. 97% of talented actors/actresses/singers/producers/writers/publishers/directors use drugs. they just havent been taped and blasted on you tube yet. She deserved to win because her album is fiyah. no crack cocaine will smudge the creativity nor that soulful sound that comes from her soul. i dont want to see Amy end up dead so i do think she needs to get some help but she said “NO, NO, NO!” she is the person who has to make this decision.

Natalie honestly can’t talk, because wasn’t she the same chick who years ago was in her house snorting coke with her “preacher” of a husband while their maid had to save their son from drowning in the pool!! Amy does have a problem, but don’t knock her because you also had the same problem. She’s just made because Amy is winning Grammys and still doing drugs, but she had to sober up and still hasn’t won 5!!!!

#196 hahahahaha….hell naw!! my gyrl Aretha was looking a lil “heavy heavy” lmao that yellow did nothing for her…

TELL EM LIL MAMA!

All the hatin on Amy Winehouse is so hypocritical. She made some music and won an award for her MUSIC. It’s not like she’s getting an award for being a role model. Also the people have spoke lots of people bought her album so Natalie should be directing her comments at them too.

But the award was for her music. She is no doubt a flawed person but there also many a flawed celebrity who’ve won awards and there will always be. Just keep in mind this award is for musical talent. So should we not give awards to people with large ego’s (ahem Kanye), or to Hip-hop artists that have called women bitches or have been arrested, or for the celebs that owe child support, etc…

With all due respect…..Aretha sit yo big @$$ down.

I’m sure Beyonce` meant QUEEN of Rock & Roll. There is more than one Queen you know…..i.e. Janet Jackson Queen of POP

Natalie Cole is in no position to speak. I mean, Mary J Blige, a few months ago, was saying how much empathy she has for Amy Winehose. Ms Cole shoulda taken a leaf out of her book.

Aretha, just let it go.

some people just need to stop the grammys are based on sale and whatever else and Amy Winehouse did a good job on sales if he look at someone for there behavior no one should get a damn grammy. People just need to grow up over lil things like that if you was raced right drug want be a problem or if you dont hang around that stuff you are good then and dont let peer pressure get to you.

189.

lil mama
Wednesday, February 13, 2008 /
Ok some of yall are real ignorant and naive about this Natalie Cole situation first of all when Natalie was out in the beginning she wasn’t on drugs… Amy Winehouse has been known for drugs ever since she hit scene I mean look at her!!!

LIL MAMA, Amy Winhouse came out in 2003, when she released her first album in the UK. Back To Black is her SECOND ALBUM. Trust me, I’ve seen her early photos, and her early videos, etc, and she WAS NOT ON DRUGS WHEN SHE HIT THE SCENE. She looked more healthy and was actually quite sane.

I hope that clears things up

ARETHA IS THE QUEEN OF FAT AND WEARING UNFLATTERING CLOTHES; BUT THEY WERE REFERRING TO THE FACT THAT TINA IS THE QUEEN OF ROCK & ROLL AND WAS DUBBED THAT BY MICK JAGGER; RE RE NEEDS TO EAT A CUPCAKE, I THINK HER SUGAR WAS TOO LOW WHEN SHE SAID THIS.

And you people in here are so nieve, You have to actually know about the ceremony whtehr then whatching it. Natalie is right. Amy Whinehouse didn’t deserve to win, she only won for the same reasons they used her to advertise for her appearance with all the contraversy, ratings.

The awards are are political anyway. Do you dumbasses in here thats eem tot hink theres no alterior motive as to why the artists in what they win when they win it remember what they tried to do to hip hop back in 1988 when they first made it into a category, they didnt even want to air that portion of the ceremony. For all the awards michael jackson has recieved and for how popular his 1987 bad album is and for as many records it sold , do you know he never even got a grammy that year. That nigga is MR. grammy with the highest amount ever won in one night and they snubbed even him.

An for any real music fans who knows the deal with the grammys I have three words and you’ll know what I mean when I say them if you are hip to the game, and know about how the grammies work instead of just whatching them. INDIA FUCKING ARIE.
Let that marinate, real music fans know what I mean by bringing her up on the topic.

Luv$
Wednesday, February 13, 2008 /
#190 I do agree that Rihanna is not the queen of anything..but honey, she did go platinum. Good Girl Gone Bad sold like 3-4 million…platinum is at least selling one million. She is very well on her way….

And people need to stop putting Beyonce on this pedastle….ok she’s rich..who cares. Comparing her to superstars that have a plethora of albums and performances under their belt is stupid. Sure enough, B is doing her thang…but she only just released her second album. Being the lead singer of a group doesn’t constitute single success…and she still haven’t made millions like that stupid ass Britney Spears…why??? Because she’s only on her second album…come on people

AFTER 30 SOME ODD WEEKS RIHANNA REACHED PLATINUIM, SHE HAS SOLD A LITTLE OVER A MILLION COPIES HERE IN AMERICA, WORLDWIDE HER SALES ARE LIKE 3 MILLION. NO ONE WILL SELL LIKE BRITNEY IN THESE DAYS AND TIME. ALBUMS DOESN’T SELL LIKE THAT ANYMORE, TOO MANY DOWNLOADS OFF OF COMPUTERS.

And while we’re on the subject, why are u people resorting to name-calling Aretha for her physical appearnace??!! Its juvenile and undermines the entire conversation. It is UNRELATED AND RUDE.

HOW DID BEYONCE SOUND DUMB AT THE GRAMMYS??? TINA IS THE QUEEN OF ROCK & ROLL, AND THE QUEEN OF THE STAGE! ARETHA IS THE QUEEN OF SOUL, BUT SHE’S NOT THE ONLY QUEEN THERE IS, SHE’S NOT THE END ALL BE ALL OF MUSIC PEOPLE, TINA HAS SOLD OUT “STADIUMS & ARENAS” ALL OVER THE WORLD FOLKS, SOLD MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS OF RECORDS, BUT SHE DONT HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE CALLED A QUEEN TOO, WHEN HER ACCOPLISHMENTS ARE JUST AS GOOD AND AS MUCH AS ARETHA IF NOT BETTER! AND ADD THAT TO THE FACT THAT “TINA’S BIGGEST FAN IS THE RICHEST WOMAN IN ENTERTAINMENT”!!! ARETHA SHOULD REALLY LEAVE IT ALONE, SHE IS TOO DAMN BIG AND I MEAN TOO TOO GOT DAMN BIG FOR THAT!!!

Aretha is without a doubt the queen. You can take one look at her and see her BIG BEHIND is eating like ROYALTY. lol!
Aretha stop hatin. Cant Tina get one night? DANG!

people are so damn retarded i’m glad she speakin out because since it was personal to her she can get UP and spreak the truth AMY does need help…. and whoever said people are judged on the talents is a damn lie….. take rihanna she can barely sing AND WAS NOT AS BIG BUT WHEN SHE CUT HER HAIR OFF & UNCOVERED HER ASS SHE BLEW UP AND IM NOT BEING A HATER BECAUSE I LIKE HER.. OR TAKE GABRIELLE UNION OR SANAA LATHAN BOTH VERY GOOD ACTRESSES BUT VERY MUCH OVERSHAWDOWED BY ACTRESS THAT WILL DO ANYTHING FOR LIME LIGHT. ne who like i said cole has a point no matter who it comes from the words are the truth… and as for ms.franklin maybe she would not have been so upset if it was more detail but who knows shit we all no she has better vocals and TINA has the looks ok get over it is just like an old battle of rihanna vs. beyonce.. ITS PLAYED OUT…. aretha and Tina both queens

Amy won 5 Grammy’s because of her “talent” to sing; not because of her recent drug and substance behavior. She was judged on that and that along, nothing else. And frankly, that’s what music and the academy should base their decisions on, NOT BEHAVIOR BUT MUSIC AND SONG! Leave the wrongful behavior to the cops and municiple courts!
Natalie Cole and just about “All of Hollywood” has set some form of “bad example” when it comes down to drinking, driving, marriage, substance abuse, so forth and so on.

I need Aretha to sit down for just a second. There is a historical presidential election going on, people starving all across the world, drugs, disease, etc. and we’re worried about who called who a queen? Isn’t there enough room for several queens across different genres? Can we get on to something else please Re-Re? We know you’re the Queen of Soul, just let Tina be Queen of Rock or something for a day :).

ARETHA NEEDS TO SIT HER FAT ASS DOWN SOMEWHERE. YOU CAN TELL SHE HAS LOW SELF-WORTH BY THE WAY SHE HAS LET HERSELF GO. SHE NEEDS PEOPLE TO CALL HER A QUEEN TO FEEL VALIDATED? SHE IS JUST A SINGER, SHE HAS A GREAT VOICE AND HER MUSIC HAS TOUCH MANY, ME INCLUDED BUT SHE IS NOT MY QUEEN. MY MOTHER IS MY QUEEN AND JESUS IS MY KING. SHE IS VERY CAUGHT UP IN HER OWN FAT ASS AND SHE SHOULD KNOW THAT THOSE TYPES OF TITLES ARE ONLY MEANT TO FLATTER. SHE IS NOT ANYBODYS OFFICIAL QUEEN OF ANYTHING! FOR HER TO SAY THAT TO THE PRESS MAKES HER LOOK FOOLISH AND BITTER. IT IS TIME FOR ALL OF US TO STOP PRAISING THESE ENTERTAINERS BECAUSE THEY LET IT GO TO THEIR HEADS AND THEY STOP BEING HUMBLE. SHE HAS BEEN MADE RICH BY THE PUBLIC WE HAVE BEEN PICKING UP THE TAB FOR ALL THE MANY MEALS SHE EATS FOR DECADES, YOU WOULD THINK THATS ENOUGH BUT SHE WANTS YOU TO BOW DOWN AND KISS HER FAT ASS FEET TOO!!!

Now I have read all of the comments from you guys and IO have tried to remain impartial as I am a hughe Aretha fan s well As a Beyonce fan. Bee called a;ot of singers out in her tribute, she then implied that Tina Turner was the Queen of them all. Not so. I love Tina but Aretha at 400 pounds unhealthy and everything is still a beast. Fat gal can sing! There is only one Queen her name is ARETHA!!!

Amy didn’t win shit because of her talent. She won for the same reason they used her in advertising for the grammys. Her name is big becuase of contraversy so the gave her that. If it was abotu talent Liek some one else said rihanna wouldnt have won anything. It’s recognition.

This whole thread reminds me of that cat williams joke about how we defend anything celebs do if we like them. AMY WHINEHOUSE DONE SOMKED HER FUCKING KNEECAPS OFF AND PEOPLE IN HERE STILL TALKIN’ ABOUT, UH AWW.

The bitch was high during her performace, and it sounded terrible just like the last few live perfomances shes done in between going to rehab. The bitch don’t respect her craft ebcuase tis affecting her work, she sounds terrible , she looks terrible and the bitch is on the verge of death , litteraly even her mother has said this, and she hasn’t sold a lot of albums but so have alot of other artists this year Amy whine house was ntot eh best thign to come out of 2007 and anybody who has a radio or a tv knows this yet she has been the most frequently in the news for the contraversy , and yet she won she won because of political means within the record industry that has been a part of the grammies scince the shit started.

THANK YOU @ Post 192! Very Well said indeed!

Oh save that “They are not role models just musicians ” bullshit
If the bitch smoked so much crack she sounds like a damn fool onstage she shouldn’t be gettign recognized for her work.
And people kill me throwing the fact that Natalie cole used drugs so shes not at liberty to speak on it when thats the very same thing she uses in which to be able to judge amy whinehouses situation. It would have been fucked up if Natalie would have been getting recognition at her time period when she was that kiw in life, same with whinehouse.

Did Y’all hear the same Amy Winehouse that I heard? A talented singer… (in the words of Katt Williams) WHHHAAAATTTTT? Um no, she sounded horrible. If that is what passes for talent nowadays, then give me my seven Grammy’s right now. This is not hate or anything, but she just did not sound good at all. furthermore, her effort was NOT the best of the year. There were plenty of artists who put out music that could sing her under the table. However, the Grammy Awards are voted on by industry insiders who worked closely with the people trying to brand Ms. Winehouse and make her a household name. Sadly, with the exception of the awards for technical merit and honors for living legends, most of it has very little to do with actual talent. You might as well award, promotion team of the year…. or publicists with the dirtiest hands.

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Angelica

I GET WHAT YOUR SAYING BUT BEYONCE CLEARLY STATED THAT TINA IS THE QUEEN BECAUSE SHE HAS “EVERYTHING”!!! YOU SAID ARETHA CAN SANG!!! TRUE SHE HAS THE VOICE BUT TINA HAS A VOICE AND MORE!!! SHE HAS A VOICE, THE SEXINESS, THE ENERGY, THE SWAGGER/ATTITUDE! SEE EVERYTHING!!! THAT WHAT BEYONCE IS TODAY, BEY AND TINA ARE NOT THE GRESTEST SINGERS, BUT THEY CAN SING! THEY CAN DO IT ALL! ARETHA CAN JUST SING!

wasn’t natalie cole on DRUGS once in her life? sure did make for a good lifetime movie. how dare you throw darts at Amy because u got cleaned up. SHAME ON YOU PICKLE HEAD!!

I think it’s more that all the media has been raving over Tina and Beyonce’s performance. Aretha performed too, but didn’t get the same response. Only name Aretha should be worried about is the name her mama and daddy gave her. When folks call you out of that name, than you need to speak up.