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BLACK HISTORY SPOTLIGHT: SAARTJIE BAARTMAN

Thursday, March 13, 2008

Saartjie “Sarah” Baartman (ca. 1788-1816) is not a name most are familiar with, but it is a name we all will remember after this.

As mentioned in the video, after Baartman’s death in 1816, George Cuvier dissected her genitalia and brains and made a plaster cast of her body which were then placed on public display at the Musée de l’Homme (Museum of Mankind) in Paris as late as 1974, under the name “Hottentot Venus“. Baartman was one of many other skeletons, whose remains were gathered by European scientists to prove the “inherent inferiority” of non-white individuals.


Baartman was born during a period of Dutch colonization in South Africa and was a descendant of the Khoikhoi people, derogatorily referred to by white colonists as the Hottentots, which meant “stutterer” or “stammerer” in the colonists’ northern dialect of Dutch. The Khoikhoi were considered “missing links” between humans and apes in racist scientific arguments because of their hunter-gatherer lifestyles and unusual speech patterns, which the Dutch dismissed as guttural animal sounds.

Baartman was a slave of Dutch farmers who lost her husband and family during a raid to exterminate the Khoikhoi people. The brother of her slave owner conceived the “Hottentot Venus” show and suggested she travel to England for exhibition, promising her that she would become wealthy. The “Hottentot Venus” show would capitalize on the lustful interests in so-called primitive sexuality, described in the tall-tale accounts of explorers who fabricated stories of “Hottentot” women’s over-sized buttocks and mysterious “Hottentot apron,” an extra flap of skin covering the vaginal area.

(Photo: Wikipedia)

Baartman arrived in London in September 1810 and was billed as the “most correct specimen of her race.” The “Hottentot Venus” exhibition was instantly popular and inspired bawdy ballads and political cartoons, demonstrating how the icon of the “Hottentot Venus” became a fixture in the culture. This image created a fetish out of her backside and possibly served as the basis for a major fashion development with the mid-to-late nineteenth century bustle, which gave the illusion of a large bottom.

In 1814, Baartman relocated to Paris and attracted the attention of three revered natural scientists, including George Cuvier. The following year, Baartman was subjected to scientific observations; she was an alcoholic and the scientists enticed her with alcohol and sweets to pose nude. Baartman refused to reveal what they had hoped to witness: a view of her “Hottentot apron”.

(Photo: Mail and Guardian On-Line)

Within a year, though, Baartman died and Cuvier acquired her body, using it to write his 1817 scientific thesis unveiling the mystery of her “apron” and illustrating the African woman’s “primitive sexual appetite” and their oversexed and subhuman status. Cuvier noted in his monograph that Baartman was an intelligent woman who had an excellent memory and spoke Dutch fluently. Her skeleton, preserved genitals and brain were then placed on display in Paris.

When Nelson Mandela became president of South Africa in 1994, he formally requested that France return Baartman’s remains. Her remains were repatriated to her homeland, the Gamtoos Valley, in the Eastern Cape Province of South Africa, on May 6, 2002, over 200 years after her birth.

“The story of Sarah Baartman is the story of the African people,” President Thabo Mbeki said at the funeral. “It is the story of the loss of our ancient freedom … It is the story of our reduction to the state of objects who could be owned, used and discarded by others.”

Be sure to check out the reference links below for more information.

RELATED LINKS / REFERENCES: Diary of an Anxious Black Woman, CL Reader Sabrina,
The Life and Times of S. Baartman, The Return of S. Baartman

Concrete Loop will feature ‘Black History Spotlights’ each week. These features honor black people through the years and submissions are welcome.

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202 Comments


1.

msmiami

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

I never knew this…

2.

Mrs.Mckinzie

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

I saw this last year ,and it was so educational.It made me take more pride in the way that I dress,and carry myself.

3.

Djimon Won

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Major propz on this post… I’ve already read about Baartman, but each time I’m still horrified at how she was treated… Or just how Black people were treated at the hands of ignorant and racist whites….

It seems as though we’ve come a long way but then you see stories such as the reporter who was assulted simply because of the colour of her skin….

CL these Black History Spotlight posts are what set you apart from all the other blogs, keep em coming

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4.

ladygwen

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

I’m glad a black woman had the guts to do such a powerful video. Very educational and insightful. I appreciated CL. I really do. Take heed black women. If we don’t value ourselves, no one else will.

LG

5.

wise

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

WAKE UP BLACK AMERICA!!!! WAKE UP YOUNG BLACK AMERICA!!!!!

6.

Chelly

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Damn this is deep. I truly feel that what Sarah Bartman went through is equivelent of what the “video vixens” today, are allowing to happen..put on display for the world to see their large asses and tits…

7.

Stressed

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Wow.. i didnt know the story behind this Sarah Baartman…now im even more mad

at how the negative stereotype of the black woman continues to be perpetuated

mainly by our black entertainers..

8.

esteeminatti

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Educational. BUT, the shit makes me mad every time I see or read something about it. The sista was right. She WAS the first prototypical VIDEO VIXEN. Objectified by White Racists. The damage is frightening and ongoing. Look at today’s videos and societal culture in general. Our sisters are more than just genitalia, more than just pieces of meat. I like the fact that you posted this TODAY. Not just in February when everyone is spoon fed certain “non-threating” info, like how they give us the same ones every year. We’ve been contributing to the world since the world was thought of as a…WORLD. In 2008, let’s TAKE BACK our BIRTHRIGHT as THE CHILDREN OF THE MOST HIGH. If we’re all made in HIS image, then call us by our names. There is an AWAKENING going on. You still SLEEPIN?

9.

Dame

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

I had never heard of Sarah before. The story and video was cute interesting.

10.

ThinkAboutIt

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Proof that the obsession of Black women’s bodies is not new and was not a result of hip hop videos.

One major difference now is - we have a choice, and too often choose to reduce ourselves and our people to body parts and purely sexual beings.

11.

ThinkAboutIt

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

CL - Excellent idea to continue to feature the Black History Highlihghts - all of the time.

12.

Uber fab

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Angel and CL are doing a good job of highlighting positive role models and giving information. i came across this article in a South African ‘O’ magazine and was moved. it is so important that we all realize and appreciate how far we’ve come. God bless us all.

13.

Still Tragic

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Whites used a fat ass for laughs now blacks use it for objectification.

In my Black Feminism class we learned about her. It was very disturbing to hear about her “freak show”.

14.

Miss Independent

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Thank yah soooooo much for posting this!! I had posted info about Sarah on a particular blog and people didn’t know how to act right…Its cool to know that concreteloop is willing to provide something like this that is relevant today (Whether people want to believe it or not). Thanks again in honor of Sarah Baartman!

15.

Nickey

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

I studied her in my women of color class. Sad. Our people still have a long way to go.

16.

Still Tragic

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

“she was an alcoholic and the scientists enticed her with alcohol and sweets to pose nude.”

And today they use cocaine, money, and clothes….. Damn shame

17.

AMBitiousFlava

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

It makes me so sad everytime I read about this woman! I wonder how she felt and what was going through her mind in those 5 years she was in London up until her death….

18.

KSH

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

I heard about this story on the Tom Joyner Morning Show. This is a very interesting story that needs to be told to us and our children! I am so glad you will be doing weekly post on African American History.

19.

ladytroublesome

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Whites enticed the Native Americans with alcohol too, and they fell for it, like a bunch of dummies. When are people gonna open their fucking eyes & minds to what’s really going on?!

20.

miss brown

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Thank you for the knowledge…although it’s just made me upset.

21.

TtheGemini

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

this was deep! I knew some of the history but not this much. Thanks for the lesson but now you got me in the office with all these ‘Europeans’ and I’m not feeling all that nice now…lol….i hope that sistah (I forgot her name already) does some more videos…way off track here but her voice reminds me of Sistah Souljah. But anyhow, excellent post CL!!!!

22.

Tonya Juanise

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

It’s funny I was just reading about this on Black America Web, great article.

23.

Ignorance is Bliss

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

I am in tears. I don’t want to dislike these people because I have met some nice ones. I cannot help it sometimes because some of them are ignorant. It is just lack of exposure. Many Africans are well travelled than some westerners. I am one of them. Some whites ask me silly questions about my country in Africa. They ask; “do you see lions running in front of your house?” and I reply, “I would not be alive today If I did.”

24.

BEN

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

This lady was taken from Africa against her will and put on display because of Racism
towards blacks. To suggest she left her homeland in search of Fame is a flat out lie.
This womand is a victim of RACISM. The person that authors this youtube video is guilty
of exploiting ths woman once again. Making up lies because you hate video women and
using this woman’s photos make you just as guilty. It also hurts your argument. Blacks
had no voice with their dispositon when they were taken from their homeland. Even as
you read this comment women from eastern europe and asia are being mislead to live
their countries sold into the sex slavery. How can you compare that to a woman in
america standing is a casting line to be paid 3000 to 6000 dollar a day to appear in a music video that will has the potential to make her famous. Black women like the
author of this video display the same self serving interests that those racist men
displayed when they made that woman a social display. Buffy the Body has become
rich because of her unique body. This woman is just another victim of a racist sociaity. If she was living today she could get rich but like many others she was exploited. If she had been born with 3 legs she would have been placed in a circus.
Have you ever heard of SIde show freaks. Most of them were disformed people that
had very few options but to join the circus. I think in her case she was taken advantage by racist people. You can not confuse that with grown women appearing
in music videos. What about the porn industry? They make billions of dollars while
rap music only grosses 800 million a year. Porn makes billions of dollars and the
stupid author of this video leaves that out of her self serving arugment. She is guilty
of exploting this woman herself. Telling made uf lies about her death and how she
was obtained does not justify your so called cursade for women. It makes her death
seem cheap because you are a liar. Men do exploit women but not in this case and
not in hip hop videos. Try the strip clubs and maybe the sex slave industry.

25.

Still Tragic

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Great answer to such a trivial question #22, spoken with common sense and tact.

26.

bill

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Keep Up the Good Work J.Dakar !!!

We appreciate you, and the information & knowledge that you provide us on a daily basis.

It’s rare for a Black Entertainment Blogs to post educational & political commentary, and I would like you to know sir that this is greatly needed in this day & time.

Thank You for your efforts !

27.

SICKNEY!!

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Wow!! I’ve never heard of her until now. Thanks for this bit of history!

28.

Power

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

I applaud you Angel, this is vital to today’s youth. You can’t save everyone, but you sure have opened some peoples eyes.

29.

Tiff

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

They can’t blame hip-hop for this shit! I heard about Sarah Baartman before, but never knew the whole story… very touching and deep. Thank you Concreteloop for displaying these stories, so many of our people do not know the truth! It is sad that Black women are choosing to do this to themselves now!

30.

Still Tragic

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

#23 I feel your argument, indeed Ms. Baartman was taken against her will, possibly under false pretenses, but once she got to Europe where they were using her as a sideshow freak they did use novelties to manipulate her into complying.

The so called video vixens are different in that they WILLINGLY want to be exploited for their shapely bodies, however this is due to misguided notions of what it means to be sexy and the belief that sex equates love, money over integrity, etc….

31.

kaykay

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Bravo for such a great post! I feel like I’m in grad school again. I didn’t know that Mandela was the reason for her being returned home & while I’ve heard her real name, I definitely had forgotten it.

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kaykay

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

to #23, i think i feel your argument but i think you contradict yourself too. either way men are behind music companies, they direct and select the women for vidoes so men are still exploiting the Buffy’s that are letting themselve be exploited. i hope that made sense what i just said. today both parties are at fault is what i’m saying and despite that neither can be exscused especially when both parties are profitting albeit unevenly.

33.

uptowngirl

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Damn! No words to describe my feelings about this. But the crazy ish is that like someone said it is still going on today under the name of Flavor of Love, video chicks, etc. We got to do better. SMDH
Good looking out CL.

34.

Andrea3000

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Good piece…..congrats concreteloop! but watch someone is going to call themselves Hottentot….

35.

Hollis

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4YKA5rF3HU

BUFFY EXPLOITS GUCCI…WHAT A SHAME.

36.

hmm

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

this is my first time finding out about this and it’s so sad; what they did to her. Dede Hunt was on point!!! I loved her words, hopefully this will knock some of them girls in the head. ? Right?

37.

Sharonda

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

I don’t think you can compare a video model with Baarman because women now openly go to castings to be in the videos, plus a lot men like to see women.Why can’t people get that in their head?They know exactly what they getting into when they appear in the videos.

This post was interesting, didn’t know anything about her until I read it.Good CL!

38.

Eve

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

So deep…. thanks CL for posting this!

39.

Stacy H

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Very insightful. while there is nothing wrong with women appreciting their bodies or even modeling or being in videos , this makes you think about how for years women of color have been exploited and used for sexual purposes only. the comparisons with how women of color are treated today is very strong, but the difference is that we as women have a choice to be treated a certain way. we can control our image. the more we give into the male standard (both black and white now) of what they think beautiful is, and allow them to exploit us, then we are just still like Sarah in alot of ways.

40.

BEN

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

#27 You said “Misguided notions” You have no right to decide what a grown person
can do. Doing Porn Videos is a good profession. Working in a strip club is a good
job in comparrion to picking tomatoes or washing dishes. If depends on a person
options. This lady was a slave. She went to Europe and was put on display as a
side show freak. One could suggest that she eat better and lived better as a side show
freak than a slave. She became addicted to drugs not unlike what we see with Lindey
Lohan, Paris Hiltion and Britnety Spears and crack head Any Winehouse. They used
the drugs to manipulate her. They were wrong but back during those times they took
adavantage of many people. Whites were given and some were sold to side shows
when they were born with disfigurements. 4 arms no legs. Many of these side show
oddities that lived during that time were exploited. Promised to be famous only to die
a painful death in a train box car. Midgets, Simease twins, often once found were
sold to the circus by familes. She was a slave. The story is sad but you can not compare here story to that of BUFFY THE BODY. This woman is a millionare
because she has a famous ass. The drug addiction of HoTtENTOt was because
she had money. I put her in the same class of a Amy Winehouse.

41.

blk dds

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

What got me is the fact that they basically mutilated her body after her death, to show/try and prove that blacks are closely related to monkeys.

Well you know what I would rather be closely related to a monkey than any other species, they seem to be the ones who have the most common sense. The evolution of man was generated by a white mans theory, but what baffles me is, WE have never seen an ape turn into a man aka a “caveman” in thousands of years.

Where do they come up with this logic of thinking.

I tell my daughter on the regular, you have to strive more, because you were born with two strikes against you……….one being a woman, the other being black.

Be not discouraged black women of the world, but push forward, regardless of the lack of appreciation shown you. Hate has no medicine.

42.

Still Tragic

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Ben I suppose it depends on one’s value system. Perhaps being objectified but making lots of money to obtain superficial clothes, jewelry and cars are respectable goals to some.

But for the women out there who value respect above everything, such practices would be avoided at all costs.

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DD

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

never heard this before but I am glad that I did! I live in Europe and the locals still stare at us and they want to touch my kids hair and rub their cheeks and this is 2008 so I can imagine what she she went through with them having full control of her. Very sad and it should be a wakeup call.
thanks for posting this

44.

eric

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

I’m glad to learn something new…THANKS J

45.

conasto

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Thank you SO MUCH CL for using the popularity of the site to give us insight into our own history! I hope her story echoes to the right ears. Her birth name was beautiful.

46.

Nikki

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

So deep, excellent post!

47.

Kendra

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU for posting this. We had to learn about her while I was at Spelman. I think my mom may have told me about her once before then too. On other blog sites when Deelish was mentioned, quite a couple of folks brought up the story of Ms. Baartman - and I was thinking the same thing. I’m just glad ya’ll caught on and posted this so that this message could reach so many! Maybe this will help in the cause for positive change in our image and the way we carry ourselves.

48.

bill

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Ben Said:
“Doing Porn Videos is a good profession. Working in a strip club is a good
job in comparrion to picking tomatoes or washing dishes”

Bill Said:
Really ?
Would you encourage your daughter to work in the Porn Industry or at a strip club, instead of McDonanlds ?

49.

leosag

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

I’ve heard of this before and I know there were several books written one that was even like a semi-autobiographical/fictional book about her. What’s sad is that this is the kind of history that should be taught in schools. I’m not disavowing what MLK did, Rosa Parks or Harriet Tubman but its more to our history, American and otherwise, than what has been offered in the schools.

50.

Peacekeeper00

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

very interesting.

51.

DATDUDE

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

dayum…..shorty is mad thick. would sop her up wid a biscuit

52.

New_Orleans Finest

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Damn, I’m so speechless and really ( for real) in tears…… I can’t even begin to imagine what our ancestors have gone through so that us black women of today no longer have or even need to…… I am truly apologetic for any shame I may have brought upon my ForeMothers

53.

a.k.a. new yorker

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

@blk dds evolution doesn’t work that way. you should take a class on it. it’s really interesting. i personally believe in evolution and i believe that ALL men did come from apes. i don’t believe in the bible’s theory b/c i think the bible is metaphorical

but back to the matter at hand, yeah i heard about this woman a long time ago. i think curiosity and ignorance also played a part in this (besides racism). and unfortunately they were able to manipulate Saartjie. i do see how ppl think this is similar to the video vixens- being put on display for your body. i think that if black women want to be in the porn industry or strip, that’s their choice and white women do it too so we can’t make it into a race thing but how many videos show white women practically nude like we see with black/latina women in so many hip hop videos. hip hop shines a bad light on itself so they need to stop complaining about how they’re viewed. they sound like little kids who do something wrong and then say “but what did i do?” yes there is a lot of good hip hop b/c we can’t expect the whole world to see that especially when violence and sex in certain hip hop vids are being highlighted so much. that’s my hip hop rant. anyway i think it’s nice that CL isn’t doing the expected. you’re searching for ppl that not everyone knows about and i think that’s cool

54.

Ali

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Good upload, but I’m tired when people putting there own race in front but not others, theres only one race = Human Race, and we gotta look after everyone not just us Africans but imo everyone, you gotta extend love n compassion n thats the only way u gonna get some luvin bak. Thats what I don’t understand because when a person is put under these circumstances and you are aware of it n u know how it would feel its funny that the some people choose to treat someone else that isn’t of his race disrespectfully n I’m tired of that. People gotta respect regardless of race/religion u gotta care for everyone imo. Thats how it gotta be. No room for hate. Its 2008.

55.

BEN

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Perhaps being objectified but making lots of money to obtain superficial clothes, jewelry and cars are respectable goals to some.

That sounds like the majority of Todays youth. We live in a Capatalistic society that
does not give a damn about poor people. You can walk around any major city and you
will see homeless men and women all around you. Casting lines for music video sometimes go around a coner. That is not exploitation. Porn is not exploitation.
These are money making opportunties. We have no right to suggest they should not
do these things based on our belief systems. If were are going to tell women that they should not appear in Music Video then we must also feed and chothe the homeless
women that sleep on park benches right now. I dont see anyone doing that. I do see
a lot women “Hating” on the girls that get pick to get in the video. Oh and men do
the picking because men do the paying.

Exploitiation of women no longer exsist in America. In fact the women make much
more than the men in porn and Strip clubs.

56.

a.k.a. new yorker

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

@DD maybe ppl think your kids are cute lol i’m black and i touch my cousins’ hair all the time b/c i think they’re absolutely adorable. and i have a guy friend who loves to touch girls’ hair regardless of the race. he likes to touch my cheeks too. i don’t understand how that can be connected to what this woman went through

57.

Tasha

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

wow I did not know any of this. Thanks CL for the information. I’m so glad you continued the black history post because some of the things you post about I did not know.

58.

ashleigh

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

great post J !!!!!

i never knew about her until today and i agreed with every word of that video! that sister is speaking the truth

59.

VOLVO

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Thank you so much J for this entry, i’m a South African woman and know this story. there’s much more stories of this kind

60.

irrational rationalist

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

omg!…we did this play in high school a couple of years ago…except we called it Venus Hottentot…exceptional story to say the least

61.

Noire

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

I remember this story. Its a damn shame she had to endure what she did. SMH

62.

One Day It Will All Make Sense

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

My friend and I actually read about this some months ago and were discussing it because we just so happened to be talking about Angel “Lola”. Its so funny how some people are so ignorant and do not realize that in this same day and time we are still EXPLOITING BLACK WOMEN. Look on every major television network. AHEM… “Flavor of Love”.

As a black woman, I feel at a loss for words that with all the opportunities for growth and personal development, some still resort to selling their bodies as a means for cash. I mean to each his/her own and I am not knocking them, but I mean come on, things need to change. Are women nothing more than just an object? Are we not capable of holding intellectual conversations. Or are we just big booty hoes??

It’s very disheartening that we have gotten to this point where much has not changed.
Our ancestors have fought so hard for us to have the right to go to school, for us to vote and just dwell in this world and to have the opportunities that we do and it saddens me that the majority of us have learned nothing. We just sit around lackadaisically as if nothing is wrong. We are the only ones who can change this but first we have to wake up!

63.

Still Tragic

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

No need to hate on a female because she does not mind being looked upon as a money making venture or a piece of meat. My dimensions are comparable to many of the females one may see in a hip hop video. No need to insinuate envy on my part.

It is just that in many black families education is not emphasized, only money. Therefore the men go out on the corner to make fast money and the women-those that can be in videos, go to casting calls. It is all about the ideals instilled in the youth. Some instill the value of money over respect while other household emphasize education and an honest dollar.

64.

irrational rationalist

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

oh yea and this is for all the strippers that get drunk and jump they ass on stage!

65.

Thanx 4 that

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Thank you for that post. I cried thinking of the degradation and humiliation we (black women) have encountered. Certainly, knowing her story will touch one african american girl in such a way that she will clearly feel prideful about her history and her skin. We wonder why so many black women wear weaves, bleach skin and do so much to disprove our blackness. We have been told for centuries that we are not beautiful, that we can be used, but so seldom loved. So, when we see beautiful black men like Reggie Bush with women like Kim Kardashian, we tend to get angry. Once again, this is confirmation that we are not quite woman enough. But black women, we dont need their confirmation, we are great. When we carry ourselves with pride and dignity and remove ourselves from these degrading circumstances, then we will see the changes. Stay Black, beautiful and fit

66.

Still Tragic

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

#60 Not only are we not woman enough because of our coarse hair texture and varying shades of a deep complexion, but also because of our intense strength. The work they subjected black enslaved women on plantations was almost like what men do on construction sites today: We had to clean out ditches, roll logs and cut down trees for fourteen hours a day. Can you imagine that? White men also said black women were “unrape able” Because of our so called animal like appearance and our “lascivious” sexuality. This has been internalized in all cultures. That is why we are also at the bottom of the totem pole.

As a leading black feminist put it “A bucket of chicken and a good fuck” (that is what black women were reduced to)

67.

the floacist

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

For those who take interest in this story, go out and purchase the book ‘The Black Female Body: A Photographic History’ by Deborah Willis and Carla Williams.

68.

fleesh

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

how disgusting.

Im so angry that we never learned of this in school.

i very feel badly for her. my heart physically aches :(

69.

Spoonful of Sass

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

I learned about her in a class in college. This is such an important story to tell an done that not enough people are aware of. As black women we need to look to our past and learn how this influences the present. History has a way of repeating itself and it’s important for us all to understand the history of sex and sexuality and black women in this country. maybe then we can start to truly respect ourselves and value or worth.

70.

Aviance

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Very powerful post & speaker this morning thanks for that!!! I never knew this now I’m going to good Dede because her words are right & exact.

71.

MsShe

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

That was extremely powerful. I wish it could be shown to all children. Definitely should be a public service announcement.

72.

li

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

I learned about Saartjie in my Anthropology class, according to my Anthropology teacher a lot of racist views and preconceptions started with European Anthropologists and their theory of evolution and civilization. They basically claimed that Europeans were more evolved than Africans and are basically more civilized because they didnt understand the culture of Africans. So basically European Anthropologists closely linked Africans to the hominids (our ancestors gorillas chimps monkeys etc) and said that Africans didnt evolve as much from the hominid species as Europeans. That is why you see the caricatures of black people portrayed as monkeys all the time because of European Anthropologists’ notions. Eventually they corrected their thoughts and studies, but by then the stereotype and the thought is burned in the minds of others that don’t take the time out to read and actually research and study whats’s going on. So if you ever want to shock a racist person who likes to refer to Black people as monkeys bring up the fact that Europeans are related to the Neanderthal, which is a hominid species that they have been trying so desperately to disown. They found Neanderthal DNA in people that live in France.

I wouldnt know any of this if it wasn’t for my Anthropology class.

And they took Saarjtie from her home not because they hated black people but because they viewed Africans as animals and didn’t see them as humans, so they didn’t have respect for them and basically took them when pleased to do Scientitic studies to see whether Africans were less evolved or intelligent by looking at genitalia size versus brain size and comparing it to the brain size of Europeans.

etc…….

73.

SimplyMe

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

#23 She did actually go on her own because she was told that she would become wealthy and famous for showing her body by a man named Hendrick Cezar. She also had to get permission from the governor of the Cape, Lord Caledon. He did grant her permisson but later regretted it after he found out the true purpose of her going to England. She also was part of the side show freaks in the circus once she moved to France. It’s all documented. Just do a little research.

74.

Love

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Wow. Very Interesting. You learn something new everyday. Thank You so much! And for those women out there exploiting themselves, we have to do better!!!

75.

2Cent

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

I’ve read Baartman’s story several times and each time I wonder….how can you not think white people aren’t inherently evil and selfish?

76.

CoCo T

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Very enlightening … glad you posted it … keep them coming ..people need to see whats going on!

77.

EducateU'rSelf

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

I commend DeDe on her information in such a society now were we have forgotten where OUR Black Heritage has come from. Yes, we are a lost people all over again and we don’t even see the forest for the trees. We do need to wake up and stop exploiting ourselves these days just because it is “THE THING TO DO”. But as long as “SEX SELLS” we use what we have so that we can eat. “Get Educated” that works too.

78.

cdnyc

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

@49: ALI: I understand where you are coming from but you can’t give someone something that you don’t have for yourself. I’m all for everybody loving everybody, but until black people love and respect themselves FIRST how can we have any love and respect to give to others.

It reminds me of the person who is always taking care of others while their life is falling apart. Sometimes you have to stop, get yourself together, so you can give and take care of others.

It’s been this way with blacks every since we came here. It’s always been about putting “others” welfare before our own. And the few times we have tried to put ourselves first, we get accused of being racists and are made to feel guilty about wanting to love ourselves first. Every other racial/ethnic group has no problems looking after their “own” first, “others” second. They are respected for it.

79.

RC

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

I think its important to learn about black history throughout your life, not just February of every year, so props to CL for this post.

However….I have to respectfully disagree with the argument made in the video that black women have turned into “america’s whore”. I don’t believe our history negates the fact that women of all colors and races degrade themselves in the same manner. To play devil’s advocate, I think if we had the other extreme, where black women aren’t seen as sex objects at all, then in some way they would feel marginalized. I think you see some of that today, where women like Halle Berry go out of their way to been seen as “universal” sex symbols. Also, if you look at the black women in the video, you have to notice that the women are catering to a black male audience. Sarah was exploited by white people for a white audience. Video vixens may be a part of an image perpetuated by the (white) media, but they are almost exclusively for a hip hop (black) audience. I think that distinction is important. Maybe the video is arguing that this is how low we as african-americans have come, but like i said, I respectfully disagree. Women degrading themselves is manifestation of how low our society has come.

80.

Still Tragic

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

# 73 you are so right. Even after the Union soldiers declared slaves free some would stay on the plantation and work for free so not to leave Massa and the Missus. And the slaves who would leave were labeled as “deserters” and ungrateful. Now as this election looms white people are mad at blacks because we want to support our own. It is crazy how blacks are okay as long as we are killing each other, but when the white man smells solidarity he gets nervous.

81.

dd

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

I read about Sarah a coouple of months ago and I must say that I was disgraced. These are the kinds of stories that need to be told to our young ones. There are actually girls who aspire to be “models” instead of doctors, lawyers, or teachers or just a respectable career for that matter. All these video “models” and girls on the cover of glossy magazines, and showing their asses on myspace seem to be proud of the images that were put on display as a source of degradation to our ancestors. Are they not aware that they are being dehumanized by not only black men, but all men and respectable women alike. They are looked at as objects for men to manifest their sexual desires upon. Parents need to wake up and in still morals and values in their children, and teach them their worth. Life is not all about the fast dollar. Teach that education=empowerment and put an end to this vicious cycle.
OK I’ll step off my soapbox now.

82.

EducateU'rSelf

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Welcome #75. And I agree with 74. It seems that the white americans who run some of the media companies, have reached into our psychi and figured out how to keep us on a level of sex and eploitation through our women. Ask yourself what’s the future going to be like for the children of this world?

83.

whouwannab22

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL…great connection of origin of degrading to what is now a standard of beauty……….im inspired

84.

Monique White

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

This post makes me shameful for ever being jealous of a video vixen…real talk.

85.

WELLS

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Wow this realy touched my heart. I will be showing this to my kids and young female and male family memebers

86.

lola27

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

I am currently stationed in Europe. How disgusting those people were to do such a thing. I never knew of this story. I wonder why HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM????

87.

Icu2

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

I’m glad I took a course on the Psychology of African American, I understood better on why African Americans act the way they do today. I feel sorry for them because the true African culture was stripped away and African Americans were reduced or belittled as waste. Look at what we eat and how we eat, we were given scraps and now we pride it as if it was a choice at hand. African American women are going through an epidemic right now, we accept being overweight as a norm of our culture. We fail to realize the things we put into our bodies actually destroy us. I recently found out that milk is not good for African Americans (vitamin D), why? We get enough vitamin D from the sun, our melon in our skin helps store those vitamins and when we drink milk we push and destroy our bodies. I feel sorry for what Mrs. Baartman had to endure because she was misled just like we are mislead on what’s good for us today.

88.

Joslin

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

**snapping my fingers* Thanks for teaching me something new today. Old folks always say there’s nothing new under the sun and apparently when it comes to appreciating and respecting a black woman’s body this is true. Black women demand RESPECT for yourselves and your image. BLACK MEN give your sisters, mothers, daughters the respect they deserve!

89.

Lucky

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

This is my first comment on ConcreteLoop, and this video was by far one of the most awe inspiring things that I’ve seen. I’ve been sitting and working with the kids in my community and we’re teaching them the importance of Womens history month and influential black women or moments inspired by the colored woman, and I honestly cannot wait to start a discussion with them on this.

Thank you very much………I check this site out everyday, and this has got to be my favorite post, because I’ve never even heard of this, and it is something that we all need to shed light on.

90.

Toons

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

than you for posting this. im from south african and know this story too well. i didn’t think that you would take it there by equating her story to the story of the modern video vixen. i was thinking it the whole time.

it’s ironic how rappers as well as video vixens are doing the exact same thing that they did to saartjie. that era off booty shakin in the videos and the whole video vixen thing is really tired and BET needs to take responsiblilty do their part and stop airing that shit. but i guess the money is too good so we sell our souls

91.

2 FOR $5.00

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

I HAVE TO GO TO WORK BUT I WILL RETURN TO THIS POST LATER ON

#75 AND 77 I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU GUYS WROTE!!!!

AND CL IS GETTING MORE AND MORE POSITIVE EVERY DAY AND THIS SETS A GREAT EXAMPLE

IM SO PROUD AND ANGEL YOU ARE BEING A GOOD LEADER ;)

HAVE A GREAT DAY EVERYONE

92.

cdnyc

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

@74:” I don’t believe our history negates the fact that women of all colors and races degrade themselves in the same manner.”
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True. Women of all races and colors degrade themselves, however, black women tend to be the only group that suffers the negative effects of society for their behavior. What I mean is, when white women pose for Playboy, Maxim, Sports Illustrated, their bodies are seen as things of beauty. Something to be admired and worship. Something for all women to aspire to. Even though white men exploit their own women, they still cover and defend their womens reputation. They go to great lengths to make Playboy look like a piece of fine literature not something exploitative.

The video vixens on the other hand are on their own. The same white and black men who exploit them do NOTHING to defend their beauty or reputation. Their bodies are seen as strange objects to be analyzed and caricatured (like Saartje).

93.

Still Tragic

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

#87 Right on the money!

Let us not forget “Never get Far” by the Game.

All that ass shaking got the vixens nothing but painstaking ridicule in the hands of the same one they competed for to be in the video….

94.

RC

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

@87, I agree, and btw I’m glad people can take my point of view as simply a counterargument and not ignorance. That is what I meant when I said some women like Halle Berry and Beyonce go out of their way to be seen as universal sex symbols- because black women are often put at the bottom of the totem-pole.

95.

THISISME

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

We really needed this post.

96.

The Chosen One

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Wow this is deep. Wake up Black Woman there is much more out there then music videos, and showing off your bodies. Wow thanks for posting this Concreteloop.

97.

Dame

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

I posted a while ago I meant to put quite interesting and NOT cute.

98.

1nubianqueen

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Great job CL! Keep us informed. Black women were always looked upon as objects. This is not something that hip-hop started. We need to take a better look at our daughters, and think about what we are teaching them when we govern ourselves in a manner that’s not flattering.

99.

noelle teague

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

thats whats up!

100.

noelle teague

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

i canr even wtch it here at school i gotta go home

101.

IAMDARKAQUA

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

WOW THANK YOU FOR POSTING THAT…VERY INFORMATIVE

102.

Ms. AKA

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Concrete Loop editors: Excellent! Excellent post! I was in awe upon reading this article. I have never ever heard of this woman. I did hear of the “Freak Shows” in history how “misfits” with bearded women traveled the world. I also heard of exploitation of Africans. This documentary is painfully honest in the terms of what the 21st Century video vixens have resorted in exploiting thier butocks and hips for money and show. I thought of Buffy the Body after reading these post…

Woman need to become empowered. Stop “selling” your naked bodies for money.
Nothing has changed. video vixens accept money, cars, and diamonds in excahnge for the sweets and alcohol as was in Ms. Saartijie Baartman’s life. She was a captured slave. Most likely raped numerous times, enticed with drugs and alcohol. The “Sweets” that were mentioned was most likely opiates. As the Dutch is the most famous for their liberal use of drugs.

Ms. Saartijie Baartman’s did not have a choice. But we surely have choices…
I am appalled that video vixens and even some web pages have showed women showing their buttocks in swim wear and shorts. You are no different from the vixens. After countless videos and “MySpace” ads some of us are still resorting to these degrading theatrical shows that do nothing for us, but set us back hundreds of years…

103.

noelle teague

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

i remember watchibng gloria velez i mean Video Honeys on like vh1 when it came out and i really liked sarah cu she was a vizen but she had like higher goals even Hype Williams was like yea ur billboard is HOT! and gloria velezew… ireally like her and melissa she was in thos emeetings she wants better pay

104.

noelle teague

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

the other one was hot to she was the one in the photoshoot she was in a video for Jay Z called excuse me miss its really cliche how i relate like everything to Jay BUT I MEAN THATS WHAT I REMEMber her form real talk

105.

Nthabi

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

I am a South African living in South Africa and I’m glad to see that this terrible part of our history is being spread,so that we can educate others.

The history of Sarah Baartman is something we learn in school,what has been omitted from this video is that Sarah was a slave and was forced to go to Europe.
The Khoi people in those days were used as slaves and labourers and were paid in sweets,beads and alcohol.So how does one not develope and addiction if that’s all you’re exposed to?

They were never given money therefore didn’t even understand the value of it.
My grandmother was Khoi,alot of Khoi women were raped by their ‘masters’ and ended up producing mixed off-spring,which in South Africa are refered to as Couloured people.

The worst part is that there are farmers in the Cape who still insist on paying farm employees in alchohol and are causing a huge problem.(Anyway that is totally off the topic).

Thank-you Concrerloop.Sara is finally at peace.

106.

Ninagirl1

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

I am also 1 of the many on here who had never heard of Sarah Bartman (Saartjie Baartman). And I do learn something new everyday. This is very typical of the ignorance and chauvinistic ways of the very sexual European, they have always been known for there perverse ways. In those days many black woman were admired then hated for there voluptous curves but then when u look at Greek art they considered the meatier woman beautiful. But now in the millennium woman can go and get injected here and there to portray the same image they are not. The video vixen is doing only what she knows to try and get ahead but so are the Playboy Girls. Who is to say whats right in these days when anything and everything goes..

I can only try to understand what she endured and hold my head up everyday as all black woman should. This whole story was deep and her legend should live on, the first showcase of the black beauty misunderstood.

107.

VOTE FOR RON PAUL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

J Dakar I think your doing a good job reporting news and politics, it makes me visit this site more often because you report credible news stories. I still am shocked at the one about mud cookies. Keep up the good work CL !

108.

kaykay

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Ben, ever heard of self expolitation? THAT’S what’s happening-their unfairly using themselves for the own wack (i.e. $$$) uses. It’s sad.

109.

playsis

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

im so glad this kind of subject matter is gettin beyonce amount comments im proud of my people lol no but seriously this is beyond great j thanks for sharing this……..

110.

UM...I GUESS

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

i learned about this is my african american studies class…very very interesting. this takes it to a whole nother level tho! i love it…its speaks the TRUTH. kudos for the post CL.

111.

MISSISSIPPI G_DDAMN

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

It’s great when posts like this hit over 100 comments.

Thanks JD.

112.

Destiny

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

This was very informative. Thank you for this educational posting. I had no idea about this, wow.

113.

JUDAH

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

It’s good to have a post spotlighting something like this, that directly scrutinizes the racism against the black woman in this day and age where most black women are more geared towards fitting into mainstream society than maintaining some type of order in their own community. Many sisters erroneously believe that racism either doesn’t exist anymore because they’ve been allowed into corporate America for the purposes of being sexually ogled or utilized as concubines by the caucasian executives.

114.

Sabrina

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

@ #102 I so agreee with you…I am so overwhelmingly proud at the number of responses/ comments and happy that CL could bring something like this to fruition in terms of how some women conduct themselves today. Good Job!!

115.

Sabrina

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

**also…EVERYONE I’VE ENJOYED READING EVERYONE’S COMMENTS…

116.

Tealeaf

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

I read a book about her and it said she had a disease that cause her butt to be so large. It’s a shame she was exploited.

117.

rere

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

This is why folks are having a problem with singers like Beyonce and lil kim and any black woman who exploits there bodies for profit. sure they make money but at what cost??? White women can be on “girls gone wild” have sex with the whole college campus and they will still be able to find a husband and spit out two or three babies and shop all day.. black women can’t afford to have this whorish image gloryfied. But what can we do?? turn our backs on the industry that is feeding us this nonsense?? When will we learn that they have got us right where they want us… its just a matter of time!!!

p.s.black men aren’t trying to save us…they are after snow white and dem.. Good LUck!!!

118.

FINE-N-MELLOW

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

I heard about this a while back and I showed it to every woman in my life. Makes you think.

119.

Miss StBernard

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

wow, this is deep. i never knew. my heart aches for the humilation she must have felt while everyone was looking and making fun of her. it almost forces us as black women to take a deeper look at who we really are and how we carry ourselves. thanks CL for the post.

120.

ScurvOriginalz

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

This presentation should be mandatory in every single institution of learning, every house of worship and in every incarceration facility bar none.
And those of us who are aware of the ricks of our enemy/oppressors/exploiters need to man our posts and get on the job.
I love you all,
Scurv
“Amerikkka’s Most Outspoken Artist”
http://www.ScurvOriginalz.com

121.

Sha in L.A.

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

WOOOOOOOOOOOOW! THAT WAS THE BOMB AND VERY EDUCATIONAL! GOOD LOOKIN’ OUT CL.

122.

Streeter

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

first time , THANK YOU SOOOOO MUCH FOR THIS!!!!!!!! never knew

123.

MISS LENA

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

I never heard of this before. Another sad yet true moment in our history. We’ve gotta do better! Thanks CL for the post!

124.

Tonya Juanise

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

As long as Black women continue to volunteer to let themselves be exploited in such a manner, that ish will continue on especially through the hip hop community. We can’t always point our fingers at the artists and say “You’ve been a bad boy, shame on you!!” because these women seem to have no problem gyrating their hips and shaking their asses in front of the camera. It’s just as simple as that. I don’t feel sorry for these women because THEY CHOOSE to let themselves be viewed in such a way. And they wonder why they can’t get respect? Look at you, your ass is practically pouring out of your skimpy clothes and you’re making your ass clap for a million people to see. And you want me to do what? Yeah right.

It’s also funny how some of these “models” floating around the internet are demanding for respect and to be looked upon as more than a piece of meat, yet they’re posing for trashy magazines like King and Smooth with barely anything on and their asses all in the camera. If you want respect and want to be looked at as an intelligent woman with morals then why don’t you try doing some tasteful modeling.

And for the people who will say, “Don’t knock their hustle, you don’t know their situation. They might have kids…” Blah blah, I’ve seen those comments come up so many times during discussions like these, you’re right, I don’t know many of the situations these women are in, but I garuntee you there’s a way to make money without degrading yourself or selling yourself short.

125.

Tonya Juanise

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

*gaurantee

126.

[₰]HANNON*ki[₰]met

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

ive read every post until nwo and i really like what im hearing and do appreciate CL Jdakar for puttting this up..Ive seen this viddy a while back, like last year..its on youtube and many havent even watched it

and i loved that comment about why black people dont need to drink milk..the last time i drank milk was when i was in grade 9 that shits no good 4 ya..(totally irrelevant but whatever)
GREAT POST! GREATLY APPRECIATED

128.

Fair Lady

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

wow. proud of u for posting this. u know we have come along way in fighting off these white folk and thier savage deeds towards us. i just wanna say to all black women be proud os your unique shape, ur fine ass, plump breats and neat waist. full lips and beautiful skin.
we got what them others got to pay for. please carry it with pride!

129.

blacksofistik8

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

good post j. yall need to keep puttin stuff up like this about our history more often *thumbs up*

130.

Sharonda

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Evolution is false.Only 98% of what you read about evolution is true.What happen to the other 2%?Hasn’t been proven.Is which why scientist don’t believe in evolution.Because if you studied evolution you would know that it is just a theory when you study where mammals etc. came from.Aside from that

Women have a choice now, either to exploit their bodies.Nobody is gunning them down. But it does get to the point where what about the black women who work extremely hard because those women, including myself and others have a hard time trying to prove.

131.

Sybil Blaize

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

I never knew about this untill now mad props BLACK WOMEN are the best , and the world doesnt even know iit yet its a shame that we are being disrespected, and degraded, im SIICk of iit.

132.

mills

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

It is sad that some of us lost the message - #23 and others- I know now we have a choice- that wahat makes it sad - These people before did not have a choice - sarah for one and other actors in the past that had to play into stereotypes i.e hattie mcdaniel -amos and Andy - now today we have Flavor Flav (i hope I spelled it right because that all he cares about) and Angel ( dumb as video girl) are choosing to reaffirm the stereotypes- it’s sad - just because they hand us a little paper
With images like this on TV - showing the black men and women like this - Do you think Barack Obama will really be able to hold the highest office in the land- with images like this on TV -it’s no wonder so many people believe that Obama only saving grace is that he is half white-
Really people wake up

The only good thing I picked up from this video is that the black woman body now and then, was considered the epitome of feminity-They tried for all these year to make us feel ugly but infact white people eny our lips , breast, butts and hips- The whole victorian era of fashion for women (which was to represent feminity and virtue) was modeled after this black woman - that they mocked and scorned but secretley lusted after that is why we should no be ashamed of our bodies but find a better way to show our pride in ourselves then by being object in music videos for them to lust and objectify us as just body parts

133.

The Wire Addict

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

I hope the so called music video vixens and video “whores” become inspired to represent themselves differently, after reading this story. Saartjie “Sarah” Baartman was forced to display her sexual organs. Don’t you see the white men in the photo standing there with goads and whips? Yet, in modern society, many black women take pride in shaking their NAKED asses on television. No wonder why many white men merely perceive us as vessels to hold their semen. Many of them don’t respect us in the workplace, nor do they respect us in many other professional realms of society.

I am a black woman, and, yes, I believe the more those video “whores ” choose to put to shame and disrespect their bodies in videos for disrespectful music, the more time it will take for black women to get 100% respect in the United State of America. We have another 300 years to go.

134.

Mr.White

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

A bitch is a bitch and a hoe is a hoe! Doesnt matter which skincolor you got. Apologies to my true sisters

135.

AFRICANQUEEN#1

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

nobody forced the modern day vixens to do anything!!!! they do it out of free will and white people do it too so dont punish all of black america for what few of them do.

136.

Juslisen

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

I’ve seen this video before and always found it to be very informative. More people need to see this. Black women need to stop degrading themselves in these videos and stop reaffirming negative stereotypes of black women (ie: oversexed is a popular one). Those women need to take control of their image.

It’s amazing the very thing that the racist whites mocked are the very things many of them spend millions of dollars on, such as having shapely round butts, full lips, etc. Black women have had those features forever and just now (in the past few years) whites are beginning to hop on the bandwagon. Notice how when a white person has one of those features, soon it’s looked at as something out of the ordinary or unique (take for example: Angelina Jolie’s full lips or J.LO’s famous booty). Hell, you have many whites buying those same features, take Ice-T’s wife Coco and Kim Kardashian for example. However it’s not the first time, many whites have stole from black cultures and claimed it as part of their own. Not trying to go off-topic but Let’s take a history lesson back into the 1950s, where many whites claim that Elvis Presley are rock pioneers completely ignoring the fact that he and other icons stole many ideas from the black culture (particularly blues).

Just my 2 cents.

137.

jahlibeans

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

speechless.

138.

Forest

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

For those who are interested in this subject check Suzann Lori Parks’ play “Venus.” It’s a very interesting look at the cultural implications of this woman.

139.

JUDAH

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

@127 co-sign

I just got a chance to watch the video that the sister put together and I have to say that it was very well done. I was amazed to hear her confess that the black woman has become the number 1 whore in the world (Amos 7:17). The only issue I have with what the sister was saying is that she doesn’t seem to realize that the change has to start with the black men if she sincerely wants order to be restored. There’s so much confusion, in my opinion, because people want things to change but they still want to exalt themselves. The sister tried to mingle some of her black feminism into the video which only weighed it down, once again, in my opinion.

The reason why so many black men are so disrespectful to the black woman is because the black woman has been put above him by the white man as a destructive reward for her whoredom. Since brothers’ minds are not trained, they lash out. The proof of this is that the massive disrespect of the black woman from the black man has only been outwardly prevalent since approximately 15 years after the white man’s civil rights movement. The intent the whole time was to eventually empower the black woman and the homosexual over the heterosexual black male. The black man has been x’ed out of the family structure, so now the black boys have no male figure to learn from and the black girls have no model for what a good man is. This can only lead to antagonism between the sexes. Many sisters know this but will not admit it because they want to maintain the power that has been given to them by the white man over the black man.

To show you the true depravity of these caucasians, they cut the woman’s vagina out and put it in a museum for display. Similar to how they would cut off the black man’s penis and scrotum when he got lynched and put it in his mouth before hanging him. Or how the conquistadors would line up the Native American women, slice off one breast, and feed it to the dogs. Quiet as kept, they have all of our true history and records in their museums and institutes throughout Europe, as well as the histories of the other races. That’s what imperialism was about: eradicating the cultures of the other races so that it would be easier to bend them to the New World Order, which has been in effect since World War I.

140.

Ashley

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

This is new to me also. I am a college student and just last night I read a story about Saartjie Baartman. I love how my Anthropology course coincides with Concrete Loop. Thanks for educating us on our history, this should continue throughout the year!

141.

echo

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

#3 I’ve read about her also and your comments echo what I’d say perfectly. Black are very far behind in their own history. Thanks J. Dakar for this, but please make posts like this all year to help bring the black race up to speed. No other site has been this smart to combine the pics, gossip, facts, politics and history all in one. I’m loving CL right now.

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Avanti

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Wow. Great that you all posted this. I would never have known this information. It is a very insightful situation.

We are no different in regards to intelligence, motor skills, and internal make up just b/c we appear slightly different (though more similar) outside.

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Anon101

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

I don’t see many Black women in the video much anymore.It’s being taken over by Latinos and Caucasian women.You have so many Caucasians now posing in black magazines because of their bodies “built like a black woman.” We need to open our eyes because it’s not many black women doing those kind of things anymore.

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Dame

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

wow. i learned so much for this…..
it makes me open up my eyes.

but im mad they put lil kim in it.
im sorry but thats my girl. l0l

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mskendra

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

i was deeply saddened by watching that video. i hope it opens the eyes of all black women today. but it probably wont. i have no words for how society treats black women. its just plain despicable

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MW09

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

I’ve heard of her while randomly searching about Namibia and the Khoikhoi people…..a tragedy doesn’t even begin to describe what her life was like….EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT HER………

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ChokLitFactory

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Very interesting article and video! Thanks CL!

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Karen

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

I was JUST reading about this!!! I get angry when I read this stuff.

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Jasmine

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

It’s not surprising that not too many black people know about this event. We can not rely on our schools and especially our media to educate us about our history. We still need to pick up books and do the research necessary to educate oneself about our past. We have that responsibility individually. There are so many other things that have happened in our past that will help black america realize their worth and capabilities. I appreciate ConcreteLoop efforts in opening the eyes of our people.

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D.Lani

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

agree with 7 & 8

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D.Lani

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

#40 That would problably happen in every continent that you go to, except for AFrica, i used to live in Japan and Korea, and they used to always look and point, and try to touch our hair, because they’re aren’t used to seeing people who look like us. My bf was recently in Japan too and he was annoyed because they kept trying to touch is hair too. lol

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Jasmine

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

I do have one question for Judah, #132. What point are you exactly trying to make by pointing out Amos 7:17? How does Amos 7:17 support your claim of black women being the number one whore in the “world”? I understand that you do not have to explain. I am interested in any commentary*

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kely

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

wow i never knew about this tanks for posting this. We as black women should rise to the occasion and stop degrading ourselves for money, car or for the spotight. All those are vanity and canot replace our pride.

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Justice66

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

I think we as black women need to visit the my space page of all these so called video vixens and post links to this story. We should begin an email campaign to let them know that THEY are denergrating the achievements of all the black women doctors, lawyers, techers, entrepreneurs, real models, ect. all over the world.

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BJB

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

This should have been on this site a LONG TIME AGO….but better now than ever.

I remember reading her story several years ago, it made me cringe even more at the disgusting behavior of our young black women who continuously disgrace themselves and their ancestors by posing on such magazines as “Smooth” etc.

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Ebony

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

interesting post!!! learning more about black history is always good.

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MINDYOURBIZNESS

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Thank you for this Post Concrete Loop. You site is educational as well as entertaining…Keep ‘em coming!!!

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J. Dakar

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Black History Spotlights have become a regular feature on Concrete Loop; look forward to a new one each and every Thursday.

Peace and blessings,
J. Dakar

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Marysfan

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

OMG SCARY LAWD HAVE MERCY!

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New Orleans Lady

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

This is a powerful message. Only if the women who are degrading themselves will get the message. I am a 23 year old black beautiful women. I have the big hips, big butt, and flat stomach too. However, my parents taught me a long time ago that I am better than that. They taught me about the modern day slavery etc… and I appreciate them for that.
I will not sit here and judge any person based on what they do, because I don’t walk in their shoes. Now, of course their reasons probably will not justify what they are doing, but Who Are We To Judge??? The devil is alive…..

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NuAgenda77

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Wow, such a tragic story. I’ve never known of Ms. Baartman. Thanks to the Loop for posting this. I emailed it to others.

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SassyT

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Thank you, CL, for this excellent expose! I’m hoping this will lead us to action.

Since we are talking about woman and exploitation, I want to add my two cents: Regardeing video vixens (or as they have more commonly known as, “video hos”) , strippers, and other professions that employ the use of women’s bodies, people will treat you the way you allow them to treat you. If a woman reduces her body to that of a money-maker, don’t be surprised if men treat you with disrespect like you are only a piece of tail. There are so many men who deduce women to sexual objects. Our bodies are their playground, and many of us allow this. We are flattered when a man gawks at our bodies (I’m not just speaking of just black women, but women of all races) because it makes many of us feel attractive, wanted, and desired. There is nothing wrong with women attracting men, but please make sure that his intentions are just more that a hit and conquest.

Anyway, I digressed. This was an excellent post and very informative. Again, thanks CL!

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~est.1974~

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

There is also a historical novel called, “The Hottentot Venus” by Barbara Chase - Reboud.

There actually are a number of historical novels about her….

I read it about 3 years ago and it left me as shaken as this video… we need to get it together! How many times are these calls to shape up going to be shouted and NEVER followed up on??

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chloe

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Get the book, it’s an excellent read.

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its me bitches!

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

#19

they killed indians to the point where they were forced indian people to sign treaties…i been in many native american classes and never heard that bullshit told once..i’m native american…READ A FUCKIN BOOK!!!!

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its me bitches!

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

anyways what happened to this women was real sad….i apologize to those without the ignorant comments for me being angry…i just dont like it when people deny a genocide on a whole race of people like that…

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its me bitches!

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

oh and i dont like the idea that this was a ‘dumb’ woman either…we never went through those times so we dont know how it was like…why was she an alcoholic??? u know?

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Danielle

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

THANKS 4 POSTING A BLOG THAT CAN REALLY HELP THE BLACK COMMUNITY!!!

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Woman of Spelman

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

We just read an article about Saartije Baartman in our required African Diaspora in the World class. Seeing this posted on a celebrity gossip blog, makes me appreciate having the HBCU experience and reinforces my belief that Spelman College is the best place for me.

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Confucius

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Wow…I had no idea about this…keep up the good work CL. I am glad that her remains were returned to her homeland. May she rest in peace.

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I LOVE ME SOME CHOCOLATE! YUM

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

I READ A SMALL PIECE MRS.BAARTMAN? YEARS AGO! WAS PISSED OFF THEN, BUT READING MORE ABOUT IT NOW MAKES MY BLOOD BOIL! ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS! MAKES ME LOOK AT THD WORD HOT IN A TOTALLY DIFFERENT LIGHT ! THE STORY THAT I READ BÈFORE STATED SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF SIR MIX A LOTS”BABY GOT BACK” WAS IN RÈFERENCE TO THIS SISTER.WOW JUST TO THINK OF THE HORRORS THAT THAT SISTER WENT THROUGH . I HAVE MEMORIES OF WHEN I WAS A LITTLE GIRL WITH A BIG BEHIND AND DIDN’T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHY I GOT SOOO MUCH ATTENTIÓN

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Maisha

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Wow, thanks for posting this! This is a piece of black history I was not aware of. It’s shameful how we’ve been treated over the years by our “fellow man.” And to think, the Willie Lynch letters brainwashed us in such a way that now we degrade, demean and embarrass ourselves without any prompting. Lord, have mercy!

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RON PAUL 2008'

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

THIS IS VERY SAD & WHAT IS REALLY SAD IS THAT I NEVER HEARD OF THIS WOMEN BEFORE UNTIL TODAY & I’M BLACK. YET WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL I WAS GETTING TAUGHT STUFF LIKE EVOLUTION, LIKE HOW WE CAME FROM APES AND WHAT NOT & THE TEACHER WHO WAS TEACHING ME THIS, WAS OF COURSE BLACK. I MUST SAY TO MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO TALK ABOUT THE VIDEO VIXENS & SINGERS LIKE BEYONCE, IF YOU DO NOT WATCH THEIR VIDEOS, BUY A MAGAZINE WITH THEM ON IT, OR PURCHASE A CD FROM A SINGER LIKE BEYONCE OR A RAPPER WHO CHOOSES TO HONOR THESE IMAGES THEN YOUR JUST AS GUILTY FOR EVERYTHING YOU SAY IS DEGRATING ABOUT THESE CELEBRITY’S, YOU HAVE BECOME THAT VERY SAME THING, YOU ARE A PARTICIPANT BECAUSE YOU JOIN IN ON IT. I CANNOT COUNT WHEN EVER I COME TO THIS SITE HOW MANY PEOPLE COMMENT ON BEYONCE & OTHER CELEBRITY’S LIKE HER, ITS A SHAME FOR PEOPLE TO BE ON HERE POINTING PEOPLE OUT THAT YOU PROBABLY SUPPORT. BUT UNLIKE THESE WASHED UP INDUSTRY FEMALES SAARTJIE DID NOT ASK FOR THIS & I FEEL SO GRATEFUL TO HAVE WATCHED THIS VIDEO BEING A BLACK FEMALE.

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ECH

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

WOW!!! J. Dakar, this really was informative. I never heard of her until tonight. Thanks so much for keeping us in the loop.

Keep up the good work CL!! :) You all are the best!! :)

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FLYGIRL

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

I learned about her in my Black History class two years ago at UNT.. Its crazy just think about Josphine Baker wearing the bananas back in Paris that Beyonce re did for the CBS fashion show a couple of years ago.

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WhatIThinkIs

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

This just shook me up!

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Why you gotta be anonymous??

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

People will only do what you allow them to do to you. I feel like it starts at home. These video vixens probably guided themselves through life. I can’t imagine them having a respectable mother, grandmother, aunt, etc in their lives to teach them self respect and morals. Most of these women have been caught up in those “flashing lights”.

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FLYGIRL

Thursday, March 13, 2008 /

Wow as I am going through the comments and reading them I am also watching Larry King. One guest on the show is praising Client 9 Kristin whatever as she has sells her body for a living and is a whore. He being a white male does not see her as a hoe he says she beautiful and I hope she becomes a star. SMH The news coverage on this broad has been like coverage on Anna Nicole Smith… SMH

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My - P.O.V. - is....

Friday, March 14, 2008 /

I learned about her a long time ago and since then I have felt the responsibility of telling everyone about her. I feel strongly that the aurthur of this paticuar video was not only trying to educate us about her, but also if you looked just a little deeper, she reminds us that slavery and racism is very much alive today. We may not have lynching and burning of crosses in front of our doors, but what is happening today is working probably a little better than ever before. We are hated by others, and yet they’ve also taught us to hate ourselves. We discriminate and kill our very own people at an alarming rate. Yet, we are at the very bottom of the list no matter what part of the world you live in. We have been so stero-typed for so long that most of us have fallen for it too and don’t even realize it. Take for instance, your lovely video ladies. Notice how most are light-skin with European features. Who’s standard of beauty is this? When alot of these black artist have mothers who look nothing like that? Wasn’t Mom and Grandma beautiful too?Now they say a “Light-skin brother is out of style”. What is up with that? We are beautiful no matter what!!! But this slave mentality is tearing our asses up. So you say the women are willing participants? Look at the price they pay. Or on a better note, the price WE have to pay with them.I don’t know Buffy, but I would be willing to bet that good ole slave mentality brought her into this profession.As it does many of our people. I wonder has anyone ever encourged her that she could make millions in a profession that is more dignified? Not judging her but I wonder, that’s all. I’ve heard that if you knew better, you would do better. But that seems to go straight out of the window if you are dealing with a slave mentality. Education such as this is a must or things will never get better for us. Speaking of education. I am proud to say that there are more black women graduating from college than black men. I believe the ratio is 4 to 1. And they are also leading with jobs in the corpoorate world. Although, this is still a major concern it comforts me after viewing this video on another black queen like Ms. Baartman.

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monhol

Friday, March 14, 2008 /

i read about her on the internet a bout 2 years ago and it was sad. the person who signed for her to go to paris regretted his decision because he knew later what the intentions of the white man were. it also claimed she died a penniless alcoholic. the rest of the story was not included. i never knew she was put on display after death. that is sick. as i listened to the woman tell sara’s story and aftetward have a slidshow, i saw one picture of a slave with horrible scars on her back from many beatings. ironicly this same photo is on my wall in my bedroom as i type this. my husband got it out of one of my books called “slave narratives” which is true stories told to an interviewer by former slaves. this picture is in the book. we are now degarding each other for a dollar. it sounds great and dandy when we see black women with money who got it from degrading themselves. we think the money will compensate for self hatred. we learned how to disrespect and degrade ourselves from white people. now the cycle keeps going. we can’t blame white america anymore. black men constantly disrespect black women on a daily basis. black women disrespect each other as well. we also condone this behavior. we blame the black man’s shortcomings on the black woman and that is why black men will not “man” up. i once heard a man say american men do not respect their women so why should we foreign men respect them?? sad but a true comment.

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Caramelhoneys

Friday, March 14, 2008 /

I believe that the word Hottie has its orgin with the description Hottentot..you know the saddest part of this is that people still refuse to accept people of color as equals…

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Caramelhoneys

Friday, March 14, 2008 /

The word “hottie” has it’s orgins in hottenhot…the saddest part is that people still to this day think of people of color as less than human….

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SultryGurl

Friday, March 14, 2008 /

I’ve heard of Ms Baartman before..I was researching the african-american woman’s struggles through slavery..and link to her history came up. I was moved then..and I was moved again just now. This story is a very important one that needed to be shared. keep up the GREAT work CL!

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maria

Friday, March 14, 2008 /

i cried when i saw this video i am still in shock…I just can’t not believe this….wow..I am glad that J. had posted this post so i can me more aware of black American history. thanks

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black people stand up!

Friday, March 14, 2008 /

THIS WAS FABULOUS! I AM SO INTRIGUED BY HER STORY AND THE WAY IT WAS PRESENTED! THE NARRATOR WAS SO GOOD! I WILL PASS THIS ON!

PEACE!

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I LOVE ME SOME CHOCOLATE! YUM A.K.A GORGEOUS G

Friday, March 14, 2008 /

WE GOT A LONG WAY TO GO! I LOVE THAT SOME BROTHERS AND SISTERS ARE DÏGGÍN DÊÈP ON THÍS PAINFUL PART OF OUR EXÎSTENCE . OUR SISTER SAARTJE MAY HAVE BEEN THE FIRST BÜT SHE DAMN SURE WASN’T THE LAST! AS A YOUNG KID I HAD BIG DREAMS OF GOING TO HOLLYWOOD AND BECOMING A “STAR”(A SINGER&ACTRESS W/MÓRALS) LIKE A FEW OF MY FAMILY MEMBERS ARE. ÎSH! GOD KNOWS AND KNEW BEST!! MEN OFTEN HOUND ME TO BE AN EXOTIC DANCER ETC…..DAYTONA BEACH& MIAMÎ USED TO BE MURDER FOR ME! WOW! THIS TOPIC EVOKES SO MUCH FROM WITHIN!!

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Doganr

Friday, March 14, 2008 /

People talk about “video vixens” and how black women are being protrayed in hip hop videos….as with drugs, porn, food and a kazillion other things..SUPPLY and DEMAND!!!…If these dumb azz braods would stop with the “booty shots” and all this other foolishness then “they” the men (boys) would’nt be able to exploit women for their own personal gain…It takes to to tango!!!

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Noelle Alexandrea Teague

Friday, March 14, 2008 /

i just finally got to watch this video thats really sad :(. its real in humane how BlCK americans get treated especially women and then tossed around like there nothing, especially back in those times, that day & age

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Sarah

Friday, March 14, 2008 /

Yay conreteloop for this expose. This is an essential story to African history and African American history and sets the foundation for contemporary perceptions of the black woman and their bodies.

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silly_rabbit

Friday, March 14, 2008 /

Gives me the chills.

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Ysugarcoat

Friday, March 14, 2008 /

absolutely disgusting!! This post is much appreciated, but made me angry @ the white man….my how times have (or haven’t) changed…

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Horse.head.Nebula

Friday, March 14, 2008 /

So glad you posted this. I always make references to her when talking about images of Black women today.

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cherlen

Saturday, March 15, 2008 /

This is the first I heard of this and I am shocked and amazed at the things that people can do to one another. I hate that some of these videos have to exploit black women the way that they do.

Big Props to you CL for these informational blogs. Keep ‘em comin’. I hope that you don’t stop doing this. I love this.

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truffsaya

Tuesday, March 18, 2008 /

I saw this some time ago… I hope she haunts whomever put her on display like that!

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Strong Sundays: Fred Hammond “Celebrate” Video - Gospel artists will have nicer videos with more funding than the ones that feature black women’s butts…

Sunday, March 23, 2008 /

[...] Just like when I was soaking up the lyrics and beats of L.G. Wise - Greatest Hits and pumping iron in the gym, I promised myself I’d pump some funds into gospel artists so they can have videos as nice and more compelling than that shelled out in boatloads to pimp ourselves like was done in the past. [...]

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Cheryl

Friday, March 28, 2008 /

I seen this a few weeks prior. And I must say this is the type of thing they don’t teach you in school nor BET. Now we all know where “Freak Nic” got it’s name.

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????

Thursday, May 1, 2008 /

I seem to remeber hearing about similar remains of a young african teenage girls genitalia at our Smithsonian Museum. Can anybody verify that for me?

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domini_02

Sunday, May 4, 2008 /

DEEP…

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» ROUNDUP: RACISM STALLS GLOVER FILM / THE SAARTJIE PROJECT / HIP-HOP’S BIGGEST EARNERS // 'CONCRETELOOP.COM' - quality not quantity

Wednesday, August 20, 2008 /

[...] out The Saartjie Project, an amazing event inspired by the story of Saartjie Baartman and the politics of the black female [...]

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melody

Wednesday, October 29, 2008 /

I’ll will not forget Sarah Bartmann. Thanks for posting this. DON”T FORGET TO VOTE OBAMA EVERYONE!!

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Cape Blk In Mass

Friday, October 31, 2008 /

Please inform the blogger “Dame” This was by any means was to be “Cute” What world is that person on, A MIND IS A TERRIBLE THING TO WASTE .