This is a joke. One, the LORD loves everyboby so there is no need to bash anyone in church. that is GOD’s house, not the followers of obama house. both paster from that church and the other paster are wrong. And who ever said obama is not playing dirty too are wrong and need to read more than just concreteloop an BET.com. Lastly, You worship at a place becaues thats what you believe. You tithe and spend all day sunday there because that ’s what you believe. Are you do it for show because it is a know fact that religious Americans Vote in record numbers. And yes I do believe the IRS need to look into the church money. Church money is to take care of the church, not further the political gain the members

Everybody is denouncing the statements made but nobody is questioning its veracity. America is institutionally racist scio-politically and socio-economically and only an idiot can’t see that. America has invaded the most counties, used the moset UN secuirity council vetoes, voilted most international laws, used blacks in medical experiments, used nuclear weapons, toppled most democracies (iran, venezuela, Chile, Honduras, Haiti, el-salvador, greece etc). Study history and read facts.

I fail to see what was inaccurate about anything that was said. Rich, white boys are, and have always been in power. Our policies did add to the discontent that fostered the 9/11 attacks. Hillary doesn’t know what it’s like to be called a n*&^%#r. Can someone please explain to me what was so wrong? So incendiary? And why exactly am I supposed to be offended?

And of course the saddest of all is the mentally shiftless blacks that allow the hoax of Euro-indoctrinated dogma to cloud every ounce of rational judgment in their bones. You deserve that you get.

@ # 74 A.K.A NEW YORKER: We can consider a billion scenarios and pick which one helps us sleep better. Dude said there are more black men in jail than there are in college, which is correct and irrefutable on an absolute basis. It’s a question of being a productive member of society vs. being marginalized. If you want to make a contextual argument, you should be comparing the ratio of black men in jail to black men in college vis-a-vis their white counterparts. Which would highlight his point even further. I fail to see any inaccuracy in what he said.

One more thing. If anyone looks at the ridiculous diffusion rate of HIV and compare it to the slow rate of adoption of medical advances in the most affected geographies, simple math would tell us that if HIV was not a concocted virus, those populations would have already been wiped out a long time ago.

Well, I am a member of Trinity and have been for a while. I am glad that many people recognize that Pastor Wright did not say anything that was untrue. The man has been telling the real truth about the American government and its underhanded ways for almost 40 years and has not backed down. I’ve sat through sermon after sermon where I could do nothing but totally agree with the things he’s said about politics. Racism IS alive and well in America and you don’t have to go far to see its effects. My pastor is far from some racist madman. He is a former Marine with four EARNED degrees (many are also honorary, but he holds an EARNED Ph.D from a reputable seminary as well). He knows at least five languages (many of which he’s learned from his WORLD travels, including his throning in a Ghanian community). He has SEEN with his own two eyes, the detrimental effects of this country’s racist practices on people all over the world. He is angry that a country which purports to be Christian can continually (and unapologetically) be responsible for the senseless slaughter and degredation of people. Yes, he will voice that anger. But in his sermons, there is always the message of CHRIST’S LOVE, and how we can actively spread that love (which our church does through its senior citizens homes (2), its drug abuse recovery programs, its prison-writing and visiting ministry, the thousands of dollars given yearly to college students, sponsoring the largest HBCU fair in the nation, the support of missionary missions all around the world, etc, etc, etc).

My pastor, nor my church, hate white people. (If we did, would Oprah have been a member years ago…yes, Oprah was a member of our church.) We have huge groups of white people who come visit every Sunday (at every service) to come worship with us. They come from Christian and secular universities and UCC congregations from all around the globe. (You should’ve seen when a group of German UCCers came and our choir sang “How Excellent” in German. Them folks almost lost their minds.) I’ve yet to hear that a single one of them felt unwelcome or unloved. In fact, one of the former higher-ups in the UCC denomination (an overwhelmingly white denomination) has been a member of our church for at least 10 years and she is a white woman. On Pastor Wright’s last Sunday, she came to the pulpit and said that the UCC is “unapolgetically proud” to have Pastor Wright amongst their ranks.

The media loves to take soundbites of people and try to form a whole identity around 4 seconds of speech…and we let them. People know NOTHING about my pastor nor my church, but they’ve made decisions based on a media that can barely get a local story right. Yes, we are politically active (based on the Bible’s command to “do justice and love mercy”) and although some may think that’s wrong for a religious group, let me remind you that Dr. King and Malcolm X (amongst many other great Black leaders) came from religious communities and based their movements out of those they led in those communities. Black people have historically used our churches to worship and to organize efforts against injustice. This is nothing new and its nothing wrong. (Both Harriet Tubman and Nat Turner were Reverends.) Nobody is angry when conservative Black churches (which preach more about prosperity instead of justice) receive “faith based initiatives” from the government when they agree with Bush, but people are peeved when a Black church is proud of its heritage and tries to help the community in which it thrives? I don’t get it.

Yes, we say “Black” a lot. So what? Is the fact that we’re Christians supposed to negate the fact that we’re Black and that this effects our daily lives? White people don’t have to say “white” in their writings and teachings. It’s implied. If you don’t give something a hyphenated name in this country, it’s assumed to be white (i.e. American vs. African-American, feminism vs. Black feminism, etc). Yes, we are proud to be Black. No, we don’t think we’re superior to anyone else. Yes, we celebrate our culture and heritage. No, we don’t think that other people shouldn’t celebrate theirs and that we shouldn’t come together to celebrate all cultures. Yes, we’re happy to be Black. Why not? We’re a beautiful people.

Honestly, I am not a Obama fan although I’d say most of the members of my church are (for the same reasons as millions of other Americans, not because he’s a Trinitarian). I am disappointed with Obama’s disavowal of my pastor’s comments mainly because, as someone mentioned, he’s been a member for 20 years and my pastor didn’t just become politically voiced. If it wasn’t a problem when he was sitting in the pews all of those years, I can’t believe it would be a problem now. However, my church and my pastor are strong and we’ve been doing God’s work this long and won’t stop now.

::sign:: this country is never gonna change, we cant choose religion with out being a factor in anything we do. this country is less patriotic than i thought n im tired of people thinkin they did shit to be patriotic..fuck all that shit……..no matter what we do, people still gonna have prejudice mind and if we dont stick together they gonna continue to divide us.

yea some black people are hypnotized by hillary cuz they act like she did shit for blk people, so they think they have you. but she’s tryna make us go against our own color and thats not right…..obama is a SUCCESSFUL BLACK EDUCATED MAN……..i follow behind him b/c of what he stand for and his color, i admit cuz I support that our people do. so whats wrong with supporting our own. White people dont give a damn about us anyways…sorry but this election is a color thing.

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obama’s pastor didn’t say anything that wasn’t true. Upon defining america the man is simply looking at it from the, or what should be, the black perspective. Don’t condemn the man for being brutally honest about racial injustice in this country simply because you’re too afraid of offending certain whites whom don’t care if they offend you or i. Stop being an apologist for white brutality simply because you want to sing “we are the world” with them.

whoever was over her finance committee should have been fired a long time ago…!!! imea look at the way their finances have been handled!!! Geraldine Ferraro knew exactly what she said when she said it…….of course barack obama wouldnt be in the position he’s in had he been a white man, he would be vacationing in dubai waiting to rain on these hoes in the general election.

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