i believe that they aren’t in a relationship, i have close dude friends that i hang out with just as close and yeah everyone thinks we’re in a relatioship, but we aren’t.

i understand estelle being upset, but ima need her to stop acting like a diva befor eher time. oh and as for remy and pose…guess you can’t knock their hustle!

I love estelle’s music she’s a real artist and i hope she finally gets the shine she’s due…as for those other U.K. artists..dont know em

congrats to Remy and Pap… i guess…i hope she gets out early on good behavior…cuz i cant imagine being locked up like that while my new hubby is out running around

that esstelle also has a really good point, deep voices and some kind of deep vibrato don’t mean you got soul.

AHHHH ! finally the first yeah! Chris brown everybody knows your with rihanna stop trying to cover it up boo, yall look cute together. Why is that dude marrying remmy ma isn’t she going to jail,for like 25 years, i gess thats what you call a very long distance commiment and also that is very ghetto that they are getting married in prison i mean where are yall gonna spend the honeymoon, tha reck room.

Married in jail….so ROMANTIC! (Please sense my sarcasm)

chris can’t front like he’s not w/Rhi Rhi

remy ma and pqaoppose getiing marriedin prison that is 2 Funny. i agree with estelle we got so many real black singers in the u.k that ain’t gettin no shine both male and female. i think u should check 4 a girl called ny and a couple of female rappers lyk baby blue shes worked with estelle and shystie get into the underground grime and bassline scene. we got big tings goin on

i know this has nothing to do with british but check out this canadian singer jully black. i peeped her latest cd and it’s hot.

I’ve just finished having a lecture on the british black music industry and that’s actually what we were talking about!!

White sells, thats the bottom line and its very sad.

Watch out for Taio Cruz. He’s signed to Universal in the U.K. Incredible talent- he sings, produces, writes and plays like a dozen instruments. This kids a problem. My favorite track of his is “Moving On”- video is sick. Looks like Batman meets KidRobot meets Ice Cream. Taio Cruz and Teyana Taylor need to hook up on a track- that would be nutz!!!

G.™

First of all, “Friends” dont tongue each other down every time they see each other. Give me a break….SMH. Second, Estelle makes a valid point and she has a right to her opinion. There are a number of Black UK Singers that are overlooked.

OH! AND Remy and Pap…..NOT THATS BLACK JAIL LOVE!…..SMH….

I agree with Estelle…usually you don’t have new artists speaking out on issues like this for fear that they won’t get any shine in mainstream media. Whatever happens I support her…big ups.

Papoose looks mad funny…I dont know what it is….!

People to scared to point out what Esthelle said, and quite frankly she right.What so diva about she said and it’s the truth?LOL.

I don’t believe Chris brown we know Rihanna your boo.I guess being friends have higher standards now.

Estelle i feel u gal. Adele n Duffy r like dat. dey fink der soul artists. i mean WTF.

CB and RIRI!!!!! boi wat can i say. we can all c da chemistry dat u lot ave goin on and its time dat u guys came out wit da truth. about u lots r singer. KMT please

REMY MA AND PAPOOSE. KMT . gd luck 2 u 2. LOL. dis is goin 2 b sum marriage boi

Dear Chris Brown:

Thank you for telling us for the 100th time that you are not involved with Rihanna. Now all of your fans can breathe easy and their little hearts can rest better at night knowing that vital piece of information.
You are the best….

Its so true as someone who has been born and bred in london. I see so many black singers that get overlooked, when they have so much talent. But when one white artist has a deep voice they get so much attention and publicity. Basically ND is right white sells.

Chris and Rihanna are NOT together…it’s so obvious its fake omg…

Go Estelle for real…I don’t live in the UK but that must be sickening as hell to have to watch all the white singers get the glory for something that they don’t really have…pisses me off.

Estelle looks rly pretty in that pic too

MARRIED IN JAIL????? omg plz tell me that was a joke.

blk ppl please step ur game up!!

ERM..ye ders a few Great Black british singers out right now..or were out

Check out-

1. Addictive- a group wiv gurls from East London..dey can sangggg..u shud check dere myspace out
2. Taio- his song “Like a star” is Biggle right now..he sorta reminds me ov Neyo..bt less gay..erm bt da onlii fing i dnt like him is da fact dt you never see any black gurls in his vids..
3. Shystie- shes an Mc/acctress..she does like show on Mtv which shows the black cultrue in London and what exactly is going on

4.Shola Ama- u myt kno hoo she is alreddy..was Very big..bt came to her downfall when drugs and alchohol nd stress got the better ov her…hher sister Sadie ama is tryaa do da whol singign fing now bt if u ask me she aint all dtt shes jus pretty

5.Jameliaa- she aint all dt she does white people music

6.Leona- gal cannn sing..u must kno hoo she is..bt she im verii suprised by her behaviour..she kinda acts whitte nd sounds like she is form essex

But if you ask me all the great singers are undiscovered and are big in whatever part of London they live in..some do Gospel and Grime..SOul and RnB Nonee of the do dt whol euro type shit or Pop

Before anyone is quick to paint Estelle as a Diva, you should appreciate the musical climate we have in the UK…. The British paint themselves as being reserved and not having the same torrid history when it comes to race when compared to the US. This is so far from the truth its ridiculous.

It would seem the US cannot hide from or deny its horrendous past with race, whereas in the UK, you are deemed to be divisive or hyper sensitive if you mention race. The impression overseas is that in the UK we all hold hands and sing Kumbya…. I am not for one second suggesting that there is a war going on…but harmonious it is not….

The UK music scene, is quite funny, black music was renamed “URBAN” a few years back ….everyone knew what it meant but it was a way to make non-black people feel more included, rather than having to go to the Rap/R’n’B or soul section you just trot along to the urban section… I too find it insulting when I am told because a white female singer has a deep voice and rifts every so often she is the new Aretha Franklin.

Black music in the UK does not get the time of day it deserves, unless it is accompanied by a US rapper or R’n’B singer….or unless it is packaged in a way that the majority of the UK population who are white can digest and accept….which is watered down, a very poor American imitation or plain old US R’n’B singer

People like to play intellectual acrobatics with the subject and argue race never plays a part in the music business, if that is the case please explain to me why of the last 5 big “Soul” singers in the UK, only one was of colour (Corrine Bailey Rae). I am not suggesting for one second that black people have a monopoly over being able to sing a particular genre of music, however you will be hard pressed to find any non-white person in the music industry receiving the same support (Amy Winehouse), backing (Adele), promotion ( Duffy) in the UK music industry today. I would dare anybody to tell me that there are no UK (black) soul singers….case in point….Terri Walker…..this girl can blow Adele and the rest of them out of the water…however at the time, Jamelia was the darling of white folk, so Terri didn’t stand a chance….it is such a sad, sad situation…

You will also note, Estelle has been in the music business for a good 10 years now, grafting, grinding, hustling, whatever you want to call it, I remember seeing her collaborating with a rap group from Nottingham or somehwere… however because she did not have that cross over appeal, that would be Swahili for, she was not as easy on the eye as the Rhianna’s, Beyonce’s or Winehouse’s (pre crack) of the world…she was given very little support. It is my understanding the record label where happy to be rid of her when she asked to be released from her contract….I would warn Estelle not to be too vocal, the industry don’t take to kindly to opinionated black folk…

D Does anyone need to comment on that Remy Ma b.s. Wedding in prision, I apologize for anyone one who lives in the ghettos of this nation but that is ONE BIG HOT A$$ GHETTO MESS. I feel so bad for the brother, run Forest run!

Can ya’ll see the left side of the screen I can’t and it’s only a problem on this site??? On some of the post it works but on some it doesn’t. But that is sad that Estelle can’t get no love but that’s the world we live in. I mean Donald Trump wants that chick who brought down the GOV on a tv show no one asked Karrine Stephens to be o n a show. Not to condone their behavior but look at how she got famous being what she is.

HollyWeird…DiamondHEART(my fav)….Battery 5(theyre cool)….KERLI..Kstar

Okay I know Adele and Duffy, Adele does sound like one of these soul singers and Duffy sounds like Amy Winehouse…I know what Estelle is trying to say and she is untitled to an opinion but I agree with #2 she is acting like a bit of a diva just cause her fame has reached the US and topped the UK charts. I hope this success doesnt go to her head.

This R&C Chris and Rihanna thing is wearing me out. They deny, they get snapped, they deny again so on so on…but Im not a fool thinking any of it was true.

def.watch for Izza SOMETHING?…HOW DO YOU REQUEST SONGS?

A great rnb vocalist in the UK is the beautiful Keisha White, and she ain’t getting no shine whatsoever in the UK. I think she also needs to move out to the USA to get her career on track.
There is also Beverly Knight, it took her like 10 years to have her first top 10 hit.
Jamelia was having a lot of success, but her record label decided to drop her for some reason.
Then there are the likes of Shola Ama, Kele Le Roc, and Samantha Mumba who have completely disappeared.

G’wan Estelle!! She’s speaking the truth. I’m sick of the UK press not giving no attention to black artists unless they sing pop.

CL you guys should do a feature on Keisha White (she did a song with Fabulous) and Beverley Knight. They have beautiful voices but rarely get as much shine. Damn shame

@ 26 you either you using IE.Might need to use Firefox because I can see the left side.

Estelle has a good point though, you can’t really blame somebody for telling the truth because I sat back and notice which “soul singers from the UK” became popular like Joss Stone,Amy Winehouse.But the same thing is happening over here in the US.In order to fit mainstream if you black is if you some weirdo or you half-dressed non singing individual.

calm down guys…rhi rhi and chris are just cutty buddies…hell i aint mad at him…do u…and rihanna as well i guess

I dont really know much about black culture or music in the UK, but if thats whats happening over there, I feel for the many black singers out there not getting a good deal. I’ve just heard (from family contacts) that over there a lot of black dudes r obsessed with white women and not their own. SMH!! And where did Sade go? Shes the best damn singer the UK’s had!!

But in fairness there NEEDS to be a distinction between white singers who’ve got it down right, and those who don’t. Like Amy Winehouse—she’s like Teena Marie, who doesn’t “try” to be black, but has the talent and style that it comes naturally to her without sounding like she heard a soul record and copied it. Joss Stone, on the other hand, is the FUCKIN DEFINITION of copycat!! I read some shit saying she was the “white Aretha” or something. GTFOH. Shes the kind of singer who, despite having the talent, has been cleverly manufactured by a major label to be “the white version of [insert black singer’s name]”. They’ll hire reputable black songwriters and producers and create the most contrived mess for singers like her, and the white folks will buy it. If a black person did that, I doubt they’d even give them a second look.

Estelle’s a talented one though and hopefully the media there dont use it against her. I know if a black singer said something like that over here they’d be over in a flash and white mainstream would stop supporting em if they’re a big name.

damn cuz estelle is pissed the hell off,i dont blame her tho…..i mean the uk does seem to come out the woodworks with white “soul” singers

umm i guess chris realized his fans wasnt too much checkin for him any longer so he decided to deny deny deny….personally i really dont care anymore

all i will say is remy looks decent in that pic…………………lol

Why does a soul singer need to be black? Just because we started it doesn’t mean it needs to stay that way. Why can’t people just sing whatever type of music they want? Why must it always come down to race?

When is the ghetto ish going to stop??

Just another point though, for the sake of balance:

Rihanna is a black singer, and though she may be called “R&B”, just listen to her tracks?? Other than that track she did with Ne-Yo from GGGB, what about Umbrella, Shut Up and Drive and Don’t Stop the Music??!! Aren’t those Pop songs, strictly speaking? Yknow what you’d usually hear white singers doing?

Even though I understand Estelle’s argument, you don’t hear white folks complaining that Rihanna is copying “their sound”! They probably make up a big part of her fanbase for that matter.

Then explain the matching cuff bracelets Chris Brown. Cut it out

I’m telling you Riri and Chris are just friends…………with benefits…..i betcha. that why they say they’re not together. that sad if my thinking is true

@ 2, Estelle been out for a long time, she just new to the states.
She has earned a right to speak up, She is one of the most well respected and sought out talent in the UK. Over there she is already diva status.

Estelle I agree with her.

Remy and Pap has either one of them thought about how this going to work with her in jail.

iAGREE with Estelle.
So true, and so sad.
When her album drops, everyone go and support her.
Chick is talented and the album is incredible.

Fuck C. Brown & Rihanna big headed ass.
I’m sick of their asses.

BET is in UK now, yo can take advantage of that, do not depend of US BET create an UK BET the world wanna see new talented Artists, be creative and show the world what Black UK as to offer…

PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!!

BET is in UK now, yo can take advantage of that, do not depend of US BET create an UK BET the world wanna see new talented Artists, be creative and show the world what Black UK as to offer…

PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dman! Married in prison. That’s some hood ass love for you. If Chris Breezy says he ’s not w/ her then he’s not w/ her. Maybe being single keeps his record sales up.

Estelle, I like her song American Boy with Kanye.

Chris Brown and Rihanna, *sighs* tired of hearing about those 2 and whatever you want to call them.

For Remy Ma and Papoose, are you kidding me, they are going to get married in jail!!!! How ghetto is that ? I guess thats what you call “REAL LOVE”, lmao. I can see it now, once Remy Ma gets locked up Papoose is gonna put out a track where he is gonna be rapping about how he misses his boo and how is gonna hold her down till she gets out. Hmmm, what ashame.

Angel u should be looking out for..
Taio Cruz (:
You might have already heard of him, but he’s a rnb artist from the uk with a great voice. He’s not all rnb though, his current single is dance/funky.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=sT1GgjKI91I
^ One of his best tracks in my opinion

Okay, just to clear things up. Everybody is entitled to their opinion and all but I don’t see anything wrong with eloping in prison. My own parents got married while my father was serving a 20 year sentence. I think everybody is painting this picture that getting married in prison would entail prison guards being the ring bearer while fellow inmates are the witnesses of the “ceremony” lol. Actually the event happens just like when a couple decides to get married at city hall. Don’t get it twisted people, Remy and Papoose will not tie the knot in the mess hall lol. Most likely it will take place in another building of the facility.
Lastly, I would like to add that just like everybody had something salty to say about this issue, my mother’s own sisters did not support what my mom was doing. But I guess karma is truly a bitch because my same aunts that had something negative to say are the same ones who had 6 kids by four different fathers, one had shot and killed their own husband and had to serve time for that, and the other can’t keep a man if it were to save their life. However, my parents got married back in the 80’s in jail, my father served his 20 year sentence, came home and they are STILL together to this very day. And I’m definitely not saying that this happens in all cases, but I figured I put in my own two sense considering that people call something like this tacky and ghetto, while I am indeed the offspring of parents who did exactly the same thing. So people, lets not be so quick to judge…

I definitely agree with estelle on the point shes making, although i do love me some amy winehouse lol. But yepp, if a white girl sings a song and sounds a little sultry and theres a black girl with the same vybe, they pass her over because its “unique” that a white girl has that sound. Anyways, Estelle is not a diva, she’s just telling the truth! And I rate her for doing so, considering she’s just blowing up. She stays true to her colours unlike many r n b singers who sell out, or try to attrack a “mainstream” audience, and by mainstream I mean white. Do your thing girl!
Rihanna and this whole Chris Brown thing is annoying. They’re a hideous couple if they were ever together, and personally, I could care less about the two.

I’m sorry but Estelle needs to shut her face, she’s making herself look a dick. She get’s number one, and then attacks Adele and Duffy…. They are really popular in the uk. (Why i don’t know because there songs annoy me)

But Estelle is just being a complete cow…. She basically has been saying they got no talent. I cant stand their vibe,. but it’s obvious they can both sing their asses off.

We have Leona Lewis, Jamelia, Sugababes, Lisa Maffia, HERSELF! Black artists that get good press, and are loved on the music scene.

She needs to shut her ass up like i said, Kelly Rowland outshone her at Reggie yates n fearne cotton’s interview with them!

Um Jamelia got dropped by her record label. Lisa Mafia released one album, which flopped and then she disappeared. Sugababes only have one black member.

What is Estelle gripping about, shes got the top spot be glad, don;t start w/ the kanye cockyness already, Im black and Adele speaks to me, its not that deep; her music sounds good so what the problem

Estelle is completely right!! I’m from the UK and i’m wth 100%

I say watch out for Cleo… I’ve mentioned her on here a few times before. She is an amazing vocalist, she was the lead singer of Cleopatra who were signed to Madonna’s Maverick label over in the U.S. Her solo single was good and she looked hot in the video. Check out her myspace www.myspace.com/lovecleo

I’m rooting for CLEO all the way!!!! UK has some talent :0)

oh and…

Jamelia, talent wise aint saying nothing nor is Lisa Maffia… neither of them are great vocally. And as someone said Sugababes only have one black member but theyre good.

I do like Adele.

I say there is Leona, Cleo and Estelle who are good and have good records

remy must got some good if she got a nigga marring her on lock…..anyone who does that is sick out of their mind

@ 24 and the cl congregation said hot Daym. preach

P.s Cleopatra are supposed to be coming back!

Congratz! To Remy and Pap. Pap is going to stay on his globlgrind even after his boo is gone.

I get what she is saying and it is the truth. Just like a previous commenter wrote, people gravitate towards whatever is “unique” at the time. It doesn’t necessarily have to be about race though. Just look at the entertainment business, people here (U.S) are tired of being inundated with wannabe Beyonce’s, we’re tired of R&B sounding trite and lacking meaning. So if someone seamingly different arrives on the scene we are more apt to give them a chance. As for the black women that sing better than the white UK singers there… They just need to elevate their game. If they want more attention they have to get more creative and stimulate more attention. Does that mean they have to work harder? Yes, it’s not fair, but hasn’t that always been the case?

sorry wrong image…but we need to support our people in every genre…so we can all be on our global grind

pAPOOSE HOW YOU GOING MARRY SOMEONE THAT IS MORE MASCULINE THEN YOU. WHO WEAR THE PANTIES IN YA’LL RELATIONSHIP

ehh duffy doesn’t sound good to me and adele sounds good but i only like one song from her. and whoever talked about how leona acts white, please explain to me what acting white is. there’s no such way to act like a race. society puts that in your head. stop being so dumb. and just to add, i’ve got to say that black ppl created practically every genre out there (r&b, hip hop, rock, blues, jazz, i’m sure there’s more). just saying. but yeah i see what estelle is saying and that’s true but like someone else pointed out, ppl expect black girls to sing soulfully but when a white girl does it, they become amazed. black ppl get amazed too and let’s not deny that. i remember seeing this white girl dutty whining b4 and EVERY black person there was cheering her on like “omg did you see that white girl?” she definitely was not the best one there but she stood out b/c she was white and b/c of stereotypes, we didn’t expect her to dance like that. we do this in our everyday lives.
that being said, i don’t care for estelle’s music just like i don’t care about adele’s music or duffy’s music and she’s not particularly soulful so idk. oh yeah and i CAN’T STAND teena marie. why do ppl think she has natural soul? she sounds forceful to me

@23 London Gurl. I’m sorry but your comment about Leona Lewis acting white kind of bothered me. speaking proper english means you’re acting white? smh. please, we have a black (albeit half black) person in the media, I’d rather they did not speak like a hoodrat.

Chris Brown and Rihanna- why these “celebrities” got to lie! They are NOT going to lose fans over who they humping! I mean c’mon knock it off. Now we allll know Mr. Brown done at Least sniff the panties- at the very least! C’mon if you ask me Ms. Fly-watch-yo-ass-Beyonce Rihanna is a FaaaReak in the making. Do the damn thing youngin’s I aint mad at ya! I am sick of the Lauren Conrad and them other The Hills cartoon characters.

Speaking of Cartoon Characters DangerMouse and Batgirl getting married. From behind bars. That’s Ghetto Love fo’ ya ass! Next they will adopt a crack addicted baby from Harlem just to keep up with the new hollywood trend!

I bet if Chris saw RiRi with some other dude hugged up or vice versa they’d be in a relationship- getting mad, jealous and all…

@grGREATEST LOVE OF ALL….FOR ONE..ITS NO SUCH THING AS WHITE MUSIC….ITS MUSIC U CALL WHITE CUZ U DONT KNOW THE ORIGINS….POP JUST MEANS POPULAR AND RIGHT NOW ITS R-N-B AND SOUL….THEY WOULDNT TELL RIHANNA 2 STOP SINGIN THERE MUSIC BECUZ ITS WRITTEN BY BLACK PRODUCERS AND WHITE GIRLZ HAV BEEN USING STRICTLY BLACK PRODUCERS FOR THERE MUSIC AS WELL…MAKING ALL OF THIS SHIT…BLACK MUSIKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK…EVERY CHICK IN THE GAME NEED A BEAT AND A HOOK….ALL OF THA BIG NAMES R BLACK…THE FUCKIN KNIG..KING OF POP…A BLACK MAN…GODFATHER OF SOUL..ETC..ANY TITLE U WANNA GIV OUT….TEENA MARIE AND AMY ,AVG WHITE BAND..HEATWAVE..GET PASSES..;..EVERYBODY COPIEZ SOUL..FACT

What is this Estelle talking about? and WHO IS ESTELLE? there is no classification on music,hell if you got it you got it!!!!!! and just so you guys know DUFFY’s album is and will be one of the best this year, nothing against a bootleg LAURYN HILL but can we stop this Race thing? Soul is Soul whether it’s BLUE EYED or not!!!!! Damnnnnnnnn it’s only the first quarter of the year and Bitchassness is reaching the U.K.

Estelle is not a soul singer and if anyone should be pissed it should be those whom actually perform soul music and especially those from this country…Where was soul invented oh yeah….Estelle sounds and looks like she came straight out of munchkin land and if anybody sounds as though maybe they had heard aretha records and that is the extent of their soul school so to speak it’s her…
Sit down
Oh and how can you say such a thing when you worked with Kanye the greatest biting thief in the game….Aren’t All of his hits hits because they sampled old soul music
STFU

This just makes me respect you even more Estelle big ups to you baby girl!!!
Chris needs to either stop faking the funk or continue doing so b/c they look so good together

And Remy needs to hope for that good ol’ appeal so that way she doesn’t have to marry the gecko for conjugal visits…

But then again she can save up to15% on her insurance by switching to Geico…eh why not???

- chris and rihanna are pulling a jay and beyonce, but i love dem together
- im not sold on estelle yet
- papoose looks like a frog lmao.. i’d love to be next door neighbours to that couple.

Now all of a sudden pappose wants to announce his love for remy and talk about getting married. When shes going away for 25 years. Whatever, to each is own. Chris stop denying Ri/Ri.

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Estelle is right and its a shame when a black person makes a comment that is relevant and progressive and eye opening, all some blacks can do is laugh or act as if they can’t comprehend.

I stand behind her 100% on her comments.

Anytime something is black, or black excel in it white people go on a mission to take it over and claim it as their own. They do not allow us to do that in their arenas. I too am getting a little tired of these white girls singing soul, its getting boring. There is maybe 1 that gets it, but the rest are created.

Just like in rap, we have no power. 40 years from now it will be in the record books that Eminem was the greatest rapper of all time, why? Not because he was, but because white people said it and a few niggas co-signed it.