i believe that they aren’t in a relationship, i have close dude friends that i hang out with just as close and yeah everyone thinks we’re in a relatioship, but we aren’t.

i understand estelle being upset, but ima need her to stop acting like a diva befor eher time. oh and as for remy and pose…guess you can’t knock their hustle!

I love estelle’s music she’s a real artist and i hope she finally gets the shine she’s due…as for those other U.K. artists..dont know em

congrats to Remy and Pap… i guess…i hope she gets out early on good behavior…cuz i cant imagine being locked up like that while my new hubby is out running around

that esstelle also has a really good point, deep voices and some kind of deep vibrato don’t mean you got soul.

AHHHH ! finally the first yeah! Chris brown everybody knows your with rihanna stop trying to cover it up boo, yall look cute together. Why is that dude marrying remmy ma isn’t she going to jail,for like 25 years, i gess thats what you call a very long distance commiment and also that is very ghetto that they are getting married in prison i mean where are yall gonna spend the honeymoon, tha reck room.

Married in jail….so ROMANTIC! (Please sense my sarcasm)

chris can’t front like he’s not w/Rhi Rhi

remy ma and pqaoppose getiing marriedin prison that is 2 Funny. i agree with estelle we got so many real black singers in the u.k that ain’t gettin no shine both male and female. i think u should check 4 a girl called ny and a couple of female rappers lyk baby blue shes worked with estelle and shystie get into the underground grime and bassline scene. we got big tings goin on

i know this has nothing to do with british but check out this canadian singer jully black. i peeped her latest cd and it’s hot.

I’ve just finished having a lecture on the british black music industry and that’s actually what we were talking about!!

White sells, thats the bottom line and its very sad.

Watch out for Taio Cruz. He’s signed to Universal in the U.K. Incredible talent- he sings, produces, writes and plays like a dozen instruments. This kids a problem. My favorite track of his is “Moving On”- video is sick. Looks like Batman meets KidRobot meets Ice Cream. Taio Cruz and Teyana Taylor need to hook up on a track- that would be nutz!!!

G.™

First of all, “Friends” dont tongue each other down every time they see each other. Give me a break….SMH. Second, Estelle makes a valid point and she has a right to her opinion. There are a number of Black UK Singers that are overlooked.

OH! AND Remy and Pap…..NOT THATS BLACK JAIL LOVE!…..SMH….

I agree with Estelle…usually you don’t have new artists speaking out on issues like this for fear that they won’t get any shine in mainstream media. Whatever happens I support her…big ups.

Papoose looks mad funny…I dont know what it is….!

People to scared to point out what Esthelle said, and quite frankly she right.What so diva about she said and it’s the truth?LOL.

I don’t believe Chris brown we know Rihanna your boo.I guess being friends have higher standards now.

Estelle i feel u gal. Adele n Duffy r like dat. dey fink der soul artists. i mean WTF.

CB and RIRI!!!!! boi wat can i say. we can all c da chemistry dat u lot ave goin on and its time dat u guys came out wit da truth. about u lots r singer. KMT please

REMY MA AND PAPOOSE. KMT . gd luck 2 u 2. LOL. dis is goin 2 b sum marriage boi

Dear Chris Brown:

Thank you for telling us for the 100th time that you are not involved with Rihanna. Now all of your fans can breathe easy and their little hearts can rest better at night knowing that vital piece of information.
You are the best….

Its so true as someone who has been born and bred in london. I see so many black singers that get overlooked, when they have so much talent. But when one white artist has a deep voice they get so much attention and publicity. Basically ND is right white sells.

Chris and Rihanna are NOT together…it’s so obvious its fake omg…

Go Estelle for real…I don’t live in the UK but that must be sickening as hell to have to watch all the white singers get the glory for something that they don’t really have…pisses me off.

Estelle looks rly pretty in that pic too

MARRIED IN JAIL????? omg plz tell me that was a joke.

blk ppl please step ur game up!!

ERM..ye ders a few Great Black british singers out right now..or were out

Check out-

1. Addictive- a group wiv gurls from East London..dey can sangggg..u shud check dere myspace out
2. Taio- his song “Like a star” is Biggle right now..he sorta reminds me ov Neyo..bt less gay..erm bt da onlii fing i dnt like him is da fact dt you never see any black gurls in his vids..
3. Shystie- shes an Mc/acctress..she does like show on Mtv which shows the black cultrue in London and what exactly is going on

4.Shola Ama- u myt kno hoo she is alreddy..was Very big..bt came to her downfall when drugs and alchohol nd stress got the better ov her…hher sister Sadie ama is tryaa do da whol singign fing now bt if u ask me she aint all dtt shes jus pretty

5.Jameliaa- she aint all dt she does white people music

6.Leona- gal cannn sing..u must kno hoo she is..bt she im verii suprised by her behaviour..she kinda acts whitte nd sounds like she is form essex

But if you ask me all the great singers are undiscovered and are big in whatever part of London they live in..some do Gospel and Grime..SOul and RnB Nonee of the do dt whol euro type shit or Pop

Before anyone is quick to paint Estelle as a Diva, you should appreciate the musical climate we have in the UK…. The British paint themselves as being reserved and not having the same torrid history when it comes to race when compared to the US. This is so far from the truth its ridiculous.

It would seem the US cannot hide from or deny its horrendous past with race, whereas in the UK, you are deemed to be divisive or hyper sensitive if you mention race. The impression overseas is that in the UK we all hold hands and sing Kumbya…. I am not for one second suggesting that there is a war going on…but harmonious it is not….

The UK music scene, is quite funny, black music was renamed “URBAN” a few years back ….everyone knew what it meant but it was a way to make non-black people feel more included, rather than having to go to the Rap/R’n’B or soul section you just trot along to the urban section… I too find it insulting when I am told because a white female singer has a deep voice and rifts every so often she is the new Aretha Franklin.

Black music in the UK does not get the time of day it deserves, unless it is accompanied by a US rapper or R’n’B singer….or unless it is packaged in a way that the majority of the UK population who are white can digest and accept….which is watered down, a very poor American imitation or plain old US R’n’B singer

People like to play intellectual acrobatics with the subject and argue race never plays a part in the music business, if that is the case please explain to me why of the last 5 big “Soul” singers in the UK, only one was of colour (Corrine Bailey Rae). I am not suggesting for one second that black people have a monopoly over being able to sing a particular genre of music, however you will be hard pressed to find any non-white person in the music industry receiving the same support (Amy Winehouse), backing (Adele), promotion ( Duffy) in the UK music industry today. I would dare anybody to tell me that there are no UK (black) soul singers….case in point….Terri Walker…..this girl can blow Adele and the rest of them out of the water…however at the time, Jamelia was the darling of white folk, so Terri didn’t stand a chance….it is such a sad, sad situation…

You will also note, Estelle has been in the music business for a good 10 years now, grafting, grinding, hustling, whatever you want to call it, I remember seeing her collaborating with a rap group from Nottingham or somehwere… however because she did not have that cross over appeal, that would be Swahili for, she was not as easy on the eye as the Rhianna’s, Beyonce’s or Winehouse’s (pre crack) of the world…she was given very little support. It is my understanding the record label where happy to be rid of her when she asked to be released from her contract….I would warn Estelle not to be too vocal, the industry don’t take to kindly to opinionated black folk…

D Does anyone need to comment on that Remy Ma b.s. Wedding in prision, I apologize for anyone one who lives in the ghettos of this nation but that is ONE BIG HOT A$$ GHETTO MESS. I feel so bad for the brother, run Forest run!

Can ya’ll see the left side of the screen I can’t and it’s only a problem on this site??? On some of the post it works but on some it doesn’t. But that is sad that Estelle can’t get no love but that’s the world we live in. I mean Donald Trump wants that chick who brought down the GOV on a tv show no one asked Karrine Stephens to be o n a show. Not to condone their behavior but look at how she got famous being what she is.

HollyWeird…DiamondHEART(my fav)….Battery 5(theyre cool)….KERLI..Kstar

Okay I know Adele and Duffy, Adele does sound like one of these soul singers and Duffy sounds like Amy Winehouse…I know what Estelle is trying to say and she is untitled to an opinion but I agree with #2 she is acting like a bit of a diva just cause her fame has reached the US and topped the UK charts. I hope this success doesnt go to her head.

This R&C Chris and Rihanna thing is wearing me out. They deny, they get snapped, they deny again so on so on…but Im not a fool thinking any of it was true.

def.watch for Izza SOMETHING?…HOW DO YOU REQUEST SONGS?

A great rnb vocalist in the UK is the beautiful Keisha White, and she ain’t getting no shine whatsoever in the UK. I think she also needs to move out to the USA to get her career on track.
There is also Beverly Knight, it took her like 10 years to have her first top 10 hit.
Jamelia was having a lot of success, but her record label decided to drop her for some reason.
Then there are the likes of Shola Ama, Kele Le Roc, and Samantha Mumba who have completely disappeared.

G’wan Estelle!! She’s speaking the truth. I’m sick of the UK press not giving no attention to black artists unless they sing pop.

CL you guys should do a feature on Keisha White (she did a song with Fabulous) and Beverley Knight. They have beautiful voices but rarely get as much shine. Damn shame

@ 26 you either you using IE.Might need to use Firefox because I can see the left side.

Estelle has a good point though, you can’t really blame somebody for telling the truth because I sat back and notice which “soul singers from the UK” became popular like Joss Stone,Amy Winehouse.But the same thing is happening over here in the US.In order to fit mainstream if you black is if you some weirdo or you half-dressed non singing individual.

calm down guys…rhi rhi and chris are just cutty buddies…hell i aint mad at him…do u…and rihanna as well i guess

I dont really know much about black culture or music in the UK, but if thats whats happening over there, I feel for the many black singers out there not getting a good deal. I’ve just heard (from family contacts) that over there a lot of black dudes r obsessed with white women and not their own. SMH!! And where did Sade go? Shes the best damn singer the UK’s had!!

But in fairness there NEEDS to be a distinction between white singers who’ve got it down right, and those who don’t. Like Amy Winehouse—she’s like Teena Marie, who doesn’t “try” to be black, but has the talent and style that it comes naturally to her without sounding like she heard a soul record and copied it. Joss Stone, on the other hand, is the FUCKIN DEFINITION of copycat!! I read some shit saying she was the “white Aretha” or something. GTFOH. Shes the kind of singer who, despite having the talent, has been cleverly manufactured by a major label to be “the white version of [insert black singer's name]“. They’ll hire reputable black songwriters and producers and create the most contrived mess for singers like her, and the white folks will buy it. If a black person did that, I doubt they’d even give them a second look.

Estelle’s a talented one though and hopefully the media there dont use it against her. I know if a black singer said something like that over here they’d be over in a flash and white mainstream would stop supporting em if they’re a big name.

damn cuz estelle is pissed the hell off,i dont blame her tho…..i mean the uk does seem to come out the woodworks with white “soul” singers

umm i guess chris realized his fans wasnt too much checkin for him any longer so he decided to deny deny deny….personally i really dont care anymore

all i will say is remy looks decent in that pic…………………lol

Why does a soul singer need to be black? Just because we started it doesn’t mean it needs to stay that way. Why can’t people just sing whatever type of music they want? Why must it always come down to race?

When is the ghetto ish going to stop??

Just another point though, for the sake of balance:

Rihanna is a black singer, and though she may be called “R&B”, just listen to her tracks?? Other than that track she did with Ne-Yo from GGGB, what about Umbrella, Shut Up and Drive and Don’t Stop the Music??!! Aren’t those Pop songs, strictly speaking? Yknow what you’d usually hear white singers doing?

Even though I understand Estelle’s argument, you don’t hear white folks complaining that Rihanna is copying “their sound”! They probably make up a big part of her fanbase for that matter.

Then explain the matching cuff bracelets Chris Brown. Cut it out

I’m telling you Riri and Chris are just friends…………with benefits…..i betcha. that why they say they’re not together. that sad if my thinking is true

@ 2, Estelle been out for a long time, she just new to the states.
She has earned a right to speak up, She is one of the most well respected and sought out talent in the UK. Over there she is already diva status.

Estelle I agree with her.

Remy and Pap has either one of them thought about how this going to work with her in jail.

iAGREE with Estelle.
So true, and so sad.
When her album drops, everyone go and support her.
Chick is talented and the album is incredible.

Fuck C. Brown & Rihanna big headed ass.
I’m sick of their asses.

BET is in UK now, yo can take advantage of that, do not depend of US BET create an UK BET the world wanna see new talented Artists, be creative and show the world what Black UK as to offer…

PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!!

BET is in UK now, yo can take advantage of that, do not depend of US BET create an UK BET the world wanna see new talented Artists, be creative and show the world what Black UK as to offer…

PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dman! Married in prison. That’s some hood ass love for you. If Chris Breezy says he ’s not w/ her then he’s not w/ her. Maybe being single keeps his record sales up.

Estelle, I like her song American Boy with Kanye.

Chris Brown and Rihanna, *sighs* tired of hearing about those 2 and whatever you want to call them.

For Remy Ma and Papoose, are you kidding me, they are going to get married in jail!!!! How ghetto is that ? I guess thats what you call “REAL LOVE”, lmao. I can see it now, once Remy Ma gets locked up Papoose is gonna put out a track where he is gonna be rapping about how he misses his boo and how is gonna hold her down till she gets out. Hmmm, what ashame.

Angel u should be looking out for..
Taio Cruz (:
You might have already heard of him, but he’s a rnb artist from the uk with a great voice. He’s not all rnb though, his current single is dance/funky.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=sT1GgjKI91I
^ One of his best tracks in my opinion

Okay, just to clear things up. Everybody is entitled to their opinion and all but I don’t see anything wrong with eloping in prison. My own parents got married while my father was serving a 20 year sentence. I think everybody is painting this picture that getting married in prison would entail prison guards being the ring bearer while fellow inmates are the witnesses of the “ceremony” lol. Actually the event happens just like when a couple decides to get married at city hall. Don’t get it twisted people, Remy and Papoose will not tie the knot in the mess hall lol. Most likely it will take place in another building of the facility.
Lastly, I would like to add that just like everybody had something salty to say about this issue, my mother’s own sisters did not support what my mom was doing. But I guess karma is truly a bitch because my same aunts that had something negative to say are the same ones who had 6 kids by four different fathers, one had shot and killed their own husband and had to serve time for that, and the other can’t keep a man if it were to save their life. However, my parents got married back in the 80’s in jail, my father served his 20 year sentence, came home and they are STILL together to this very day. And I’m definitely not saying that this happens in all cases, but I figured I put in my own two sense considering that people call something like this tacky and ghetto, while I am indeed the offspring of parents who did exactly the same thing. So people, lets not be so quick to judge…

I definitely agree with estelle on the point shes making, although i do love me some amy winehouse lol. But yepp, if a white girl sings a song and sounds a little sultry and theres a black girl with the same vybe, they pass her over because its “unique” that a white girl has that sound. Anyways, Estelle is not a diva, she’s just telling the truth! And I rate her for doing so, considering she’s just blowing up. She stays true to her colours unlike many r n b singers who sell out, or try to attrack a “mainstream” audience, and by mainstream I mean white. Do your thing girl!
Rihanna and this whole Chris Brown thing is annoying. They’re a hideous couple if they were ever together, and personally, I could care less about the two.

I’m sorry but Estelle needs to shut her face, she’s making herself look a dick. She get’s number one, and then attacks Adele and Duffy…. They are really popular in the uk. (Why i don’t know because there songs annoy me)

But Estelle is just being a complete cow…. She basically has been saying they got no talent. I cant stand their vibe,. but it’s obvious they can both sing their asses off.

We have Leona Lewis, Jamelia, Sugababes, Lisa Maffia, HERSELF! Black artists that get good press, and are loved on the music scene.

She needs to shut her ass up like i said, Kelly Rowland outshone her at Reggie yates n fearne cotton’s interview with them!

Um Jamelia got dropped by her record label. Lisa Mafia released one album, which flopped and then she disappeared. Sugababes only have one black member.

What is Estelle gripping about, shes got the top spot be glad, don;t start w/ the kanye cockyness already, Im black and Adele speaks to me, its not that deep; her music sounds good so what the problem

Estelle is completely right!! I’m from the UK and i’m wth 100%

I say watch out for Cleo… I’ve mentioned her on here a few times before. She is an amazing vocalist, she was the lead singer of Cleopatra who were signed to Madonna’s Maverick label over in the U.S. Her solo single was good and she looked hot in the video. Check out her myspace http://www.myspace.com/lovecleo

I’m rooting for CLEO all the way!!!! UK has some talent :0)

oh and…

Jamelia, talent wise aint saying nothing nor is Lisa Maffia… neither of them are great vocally. And as someone said Sugababes only have one black member but theyre good.

I do like Adele.

I say there is Leona, Cleo and Estelle who are good and have good records

remy must got some good if she got a nigga marring her on lock…..anyone who does that is sick out of their mind

@ 24 and the cl congregation said hot Daym. preach

P.s Cleopatra are supposed to be coming back!

Congratz! To Remy and Pap. Pap is going to stay on his globlgrind even after his boo is gone.

I get what she is saying and it is the truth. Just like a previous commenter wrote, people gravitate towards whatever is “unique” at the time. It doesn’t necessarily have to be about race though. Just look at the entertainment business, people here (U.S) are tired of being inundated with wannabe Beyonce’s, we’re tired of R&B sounding trite and lacking meaning. So if someone seamingly different arrives on the scene we are more apt to give them a chance. As for the black women that sing better than the white UK singers there… They just need to elevate their game. If they want more attention they have to get more creative and stimulate more attention. Does that mean they have to work harder? Yes, it’s not fair, but hasn’t that always been the case?

sorry wrong image…but we need to support our people in every genre…so we can all be on our global grind

pAPOOSE HOW YOU GOING MARRY SOMEONE THAT IS MORE MASCULINE THEN YOU. WHO WEAR THE PANTIES IN YA’LL RELATIONSHIP

ehh duffy doesn’t sound good to me and adele sounds good but i only like one song from her. and whoever talked about how leona acts white, please explain to me what acting white is. there’s no such way to act like a race. society puts that in your head. stop being so dumb. and just to add, i’ve got to say that black ppl created practically every genre out there (r&b, hip hop, rock, blues, jazz, i’m sure there’s more). just saying. but yeah i see what estelle is saying and that’s true but like someone else pointed out, ppl expect black girls to sing soulfully but when a white girl does it, they become amazed. black ppl get amazed too and let’s not deny that. i remember seeing this white girl dutty whining b4 and EVERY black person there was cheering her on like “omg did you see that white girl?” she definitely was not the best one there but she stood out b/c she was white and b/c of stereotypes, we didn’t expect her to dance like that. we do this in our everyday lives.
that being said, i don’t care for estelle’s music just like i don’t care about adele’s music or duffy’s music and she’s not particularly soulful so idk. oh yeah and i CAN’T STAND teena marie. why do ppl think she has natural soul? she sounds forceful to me

@23 London Gurl. I’m sorry but your comment about Leona Lewis acting white kind of bothered me. speaking proper english means you’re acting white? smh. please, we have a black (albeit half black) person in the media, I’d rather they did not speak like a hoodrat.

Chris Brown and Rihanna- why these “celebrities” got to lie! They are NOT going to lose fans over who they humping! I mean c’mon knock it off. Now we allll know Mr. Brown done at Least sniff the panties- at the very least! C’mon if you ask me Ms. Fly-watch-yo-ass-Beyonce Rihanna is a FaaaReak in the making. Do the damn thing youngin’s I aint mad at ya! I am sick of the Lauren Conrad and them other The Hills cartoon characters.

Speaking of Cartoon Characters DangerMouse and Batgirl getting married. From behind bars. That’s Ghetto Love fo’ ya ass! Next they will adopt a crack addicted baby from Harlem just to keep up with the new hollywood trend!

I bet if Chris saw RiRi with some other dude hugged up or vice versa they’d be in a relationship- getting mad, jealous and all…

@grGREATEST LOVE OF ALL….FOR ONE..ITS NO SUCH THING AS WHITE MUSIC….ITS MUSIC U CALL WHITE CUZ U DONT KNOW THE ORIGINS….POP JUST MEANS POPULAR AND RIGHT NOW ITS R-N-B AND SOUL….THEY WOULDNT TELL RIHANNA 2 STOP SINGIN THERE MUSIC BECUZ ITS WRITTEN BY BLACK PRODUCERS AND WHITE GIRLZ HAV BEEN USING STRICTLY BLACK PRODUCERS FOR THERE MUSIC AS WELL…MAKING ALL OF THIS SHIT…BLACK MUSIKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK…EVERY CHICK IN THE GAME NEED A BEAT AND A HOOK….ALL OF THA BIG NAMES R BLACK…THE FUCKIN KNIG..KING OF POP…A BLACK MAN…GODFATHER OF SOUL..ETC..ANY TITLE U WANNA GIV OUT….TEENA MARIE AND AMY ,AVG WHITE BAND..HEATWAVE..GET PASSES..;..EVERYBODY COPIEZ SOUL..FACT

What is this Estelle talking about? and WHO IS ESTELLE? there is no classification on music,hell if you got it you got it!!!!!! and just so you guys know DUFFY’s album is and will be one of the best this year, nothing against a bootleg LAURYN HILL but can we stop this Race thing? Soul is Soul whether it’s BLUE EYED or not!!!!! Damnnnnnnnn it’s only the first quarter of the year and Bitchassness is reaching the U.K.

Estelle is not a soul singer and if anyone should be pissed it should be those whom actually perform soul music and especially those from this country…Where was soul invented oh yeah….Estelle sounds and looks like she came straight out of munchkin land and if anybody sounds as though maybe they had heard aretha records and that is the extent of their soul school so to speak it’s her…
Sit down
Oh and how can you say such a thing when you worked with Kanye the greatest biting thief in the game….Aren’t All of his hits hits because they sampled old soul music
STFU

This just makes me respect you even more Estelle big ups to you baby girl!!!
Chris needs to either stop faking the funk or continue doing so b/c they look so good together

And Remy needs to hope for that good ol’ appeal so that way she doesn’t have to marry the gecko for conjugal visits…

But then again she can save up to15% on her insurance by switching to Geico…eh why not???

- chris and rihanna are pulling a jay and beyonce, but i love dem together
- im not sold on estelle yet
- papoose looks like a frog lmao.. i’d love to be next door neighbours to that couple.

Now all of a sudden pappose wants to announce his love for remy and talk about getting married. When shes going away for 25 years. Whatever, to each is own. Chris stop denying Ri/Ri.

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Estelle is right and its a shame when a black person makes a comment that is relevant and progressive and eye opening, all some blacks can do is laugh or act as if they can’t comprehend.

I stand behind her 100% on her comments.

Anytime something is black, or black excel in it white people go on a mission to take it over and claim it as their own. They do not allow us to do that in their arenas. I too am getting a little tired of these white girls singing soul, its getting boring. There is maybe 1 that gets it, but the rest are created.

Just like in rap, we have no power. 40 years from now it will be in the record books that Eminem was the greatest rapper of all time, why? Not because he was, but because white people said it and a few niggas co-signed it.

I love Estelle and her music. I do agree with the gimmick behind blue-eyed soul, but it tends to not last very long because the music is often times not genuine. As is the case with Justin Timberlake… people don’t buy the sincerity behind him because he’s almost a caricature of black culture (anyone remembers that track he did with Nelly for Bad Boys 2 video). Eventually he had to wake up and realize no one was buying his “urban” sensibility. Stick to your talents and if people like it then they love it. You see how easy it was for Eminem to fall of?
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What I think is hilarious, is the fact that people will say Corinne is soulful with the quickness, but Adele is not. I guess we are putting ourselves into this ‘color defines everything’ mindset. And what’s even funnier is that I’m black.

I can believe Estelle and other young black talent might not get their time to shine in the UK, but she comes off a lil bitter towards other talent that is getting notoriety. I love Adele and if her music isn’t soul than i LOVE whatever it is! Now that Duffy, i hadn’t heard of her music and when i checked it out i wasn’t impressed but i don’t quite understand; so does Estelle think the only artists’ that should be singing in a soulful manner should be white?

Estelle sounds like a racist bitch!

REMY &PAPOSE.. EWWWW..
HE LOOKS LIKE A TURTLE..OH LAWD FORGIVE ME..

Um…”VickieD”, I hear ya and stuff adopting “Diva-Tude” before ones time, and I’m definitely not hating on you, but I ain’t wronging her on this one. This is Estelle’s 2nd Major Album release and industry wise she’s on her grind longer than Adele and Duffy. So, if she wanna get a bit rowdy then she should just go right ahead. I mean, I don’t think it’s right that folks let her homie Kanye run his mouth all the time, dropping 10 cents instead of 2 about whatever, but hey he’s been getting ish done doing it his way with the tantrums so she might as well give it shot, LoL. She’s making good points, and honestly being from Canada as I am, I notice a lot of parallels and similarities when it comes to how the UK and Canadian Entertainment Industry “Deals” R&B/Soul Artists. In other, words “Blue Eyed Soul” is always in Fashion. But when those same white soul artists decide to double back into their roots of Rock & Country and not look back, it sucks for those artist are consistent “Soul” artist and have no interest in Chaging that. Trust me it’s a whole other world there.

LMAO @ 70 and 71…tooooo funny

I’m going strait to the ESTELLE Comment

I’ve wondering for too long why is kind hard to hear about black UK singer, actor,entrepreneurs in general,it’s good that she kind brought this up, but black UK need to know that nobody will give the respect or will recognize they afford if they don’t fight for it, black Americans fought to be where they are and still doing, even though doesn’t look like, BET opened the doors for R&B, HIP HOP & so on, it was a black man that had to start it, what I am trying to say is that black UK will have to get together, unite, I understand that most of yo came from different background and still have good connection with yo ancestries ( the opposite of African American ) this is good but if it can also be bad, this different backgrounds make black UK weaker, even though it might look like yo are Unite, if you all pay attention to the circumstances and different scenarios, a lot of yo do not support each other just because this person does not have african, jamaican, Caribbean… background, this need to stop, its about blacks in UK, doesn’t matter were yo came from, so yo need to Unite first, stop hating each other, and bring something different to the table don’t need to be the next Kanye, 50cent or beyonce, bring Black UK style, the world is hungry for new stuff, I meant Music, acting, designers, etc…, BET is already there, that’s a plus, people need to get involved, do not wait for Black americans or the white UK man, to make you shine, you all are the Sun, YO JUST NEED TO COME UP AND LET US SEE YOU ALL, BURN OUR FACE WITH A LOT OF SHINE, COME ONNNNNNNNNNN UKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
ok I got a little bit excited, hahahahah

Peace out

Just ME

Duffy sucks she tries too hard to emulate soul music and people eat it up and call it “soul” Estelle is right though and I agree with AKA New Yorker’s music.

excuse me not music comment.

Papoose looks like a geico or a lizard somewhere in thta family of reptiles.

IM WID ESTELLE 100%
U DNT NO HOW PISSED I GT
OVER HERE IN THE UK
DER ANT NO BLAK PPL ON T.V
STRAIIT

AND SHE AINT NO DIVA
SHES SPEAKING THE TRUTH
SO U LIL IDIOTS CAN JAM

TRY LIVING OVER HERE B4 U OPEN YOUR MOUTH.

WWWhile Estelle may have come off a little hostel I have to agree with her somewhat. Don’t know much about UK artist but over here in the U.S they do the same thing with some white artist. They will have you believing Amy Whinehouse and Joss Stone are more soulful than any black female artist. Don’t get me wrong they are good but not the best I’ve ever heard. Same with Eminem they will say he is the best but what about the long history of past great rappers we’ve had. I do love some blue eyed soul like Jon B and Robin Thicke but I put them in the categorie they belong in and not say oh they the best soul singers that was ever out like white america does for almost all of them. At the end of the day I like good music that I can listen to no matter what the color but at times I know it may be frustrating to some artist.

Estelle’s sour about Amy Winehouse…everybody is…I can’t really be mad at her, though I dig Amy to no end.

Chris is lame…
Remy…too bad, girl!

WHATS THE POINT OF GETTING MARRIED FOR YOU GONE BE IN JAIL FOR MAYBE 25 YEARS HE CAN’T SEE HER ASS EVERYDAY

at the minute there aint no UK singers that are coming up but on the underground there are quite a few..its onli because the UK arent into all dat black soul music dey into da white shit…whereas da US like all dat but jus aint really feelin da british…heres an artist to look out for within the next year or 2 though hopefully http://www.myspace.com/deliarene1

@90.Jamie872006 the purpose is to prove that his lizard lizard ass aint gay. -”-I am happily married and my wife, a she-man is currently incarcerated”

papoose and Remy have been a couple 4 yrs and yo seem like you didn`t know

well look out for Dizzee Rascal and not sure if Lemar have anything coming out soon
mARK rONSON works witha lot of black folks
other than this people look out for nobody cos i hate the kind of rap thats being put out here

in the scoul scene there is a guy who is just like Prince from make-up to voice
if anyone know his name pls note that cos you know who am on about(the mixedrace guy who sings in the rain etc)

I def agree with Estelle. There are so many talented black UK artists and you hear NOTHING about them.

You need to be listening to Goldy Roxx!
http://www.myspace.com/goldyroxx

I wish Papoose and Remy success. That’s some real love
Whatever to Chris Brown –> I guess his manager is getting pissed at all the pics of him and Rhianna together…
I agree with Estelle…but thats the music business. I guess in the UK, they would much rather promote a white girl singing soul music than a black girl singing the same shyt…

Estelle did NOT just hate on my girl Adele. I understand when she said that there ain’t enough black people gettin their shine on in the UK. But why resort to saying Adele ain’t soul? Last time I heard them, their voices sound AS good. I did NOT hear Estelle’s being any better vocally than Adele, or the other way around. So why turn around implying you got soul, and she ain’t? Puhlease honey. Take that outta here.

THE ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY IN THE U.K IS FUCKING RACIST, ESPECIALLY MUSIC. THEY DON’T SPEND NO MONEY IN DEVELOPING BLACK ARTISTS & TALENTS OVER HERE. THATS WHY THE ONLY AWARDS AT THE BRITS FOR BLACK PEOPLE: THE URBAN CATEGORY WAS SCRAPPED GIVING PEOPLE SHIT EXCUSES. NIGGAS BUSTING THEIR ASS GRINDING & KEEP IT MOVING. IF YOU GONNA ALLOCATE £1MILLION TO POP, £1MILLON TO ROCK, ALSO ALLOCATE £1MILLION TO R’N'B, £1MILLION TO SOUL, £1MILLION TO HIP HOP, £1MILLION TO GRIME & GARAGE. LETS SEE WHO DOES WELL AT THE END OF THE YEAR. DEM WHITE GIRLS DUFFY, ADELE CAN’T GET THE SAME SUCCESS LIKE LEONA LEWIS BECAUSE SHE WORKING ON THE SAME BUDGET & PROMOTION LIKE THE ROCK, POP ARTISTS AND ALL THE OTHER WHITE ARTISTS. THE UK LABELS DIDN’T SPEND NOTHING ON ESTELE THAT’S WHY SHE WENT STATES & SHE GETTING HER PROMOTION RIGHT, DOING BIG NUMBERS & TOPPING THE CHARTS. ALSO FUCK THE PRESS, SOME TV & RADIO STATIONS. THEY ONLY PROMOTE DRUGGIES & SKINNY ASS BITCHES WITH AVERAGE TALENT.
YOU CAN CHECK OUT: BEVERLY KNIGHT, KEISHA WHITE, GABRIELLE, TERRI WALKER, TAIO CRUZ (GOOD SONG WRITER), BUENA MUTYA, CRAIG DAVID, STEVIE HOANG (FUTURE STAR), KAY B (FUTURE STAR), JAY SEAN, JAMELIA( DO MORE RnB YOU BETTER THAN THAT POP SHIT), SWIZZ, BASHY, SWAY, KANO, BENGA, T2, WILEY, DIZZE RASCAL, LETHAL B, LEMAR, PLUS MANY MORE BLACKS & MINORITIES WITH TALENTS IN THE UK. THANX.

look out for fdm or fundamental 03, they recording in america but born n raised from the uk,

Estelle is super talented and she, like Sharon Jones, will probably never achieve mainstream success. She’ll just be the black singer of the moment for the white hipsters but that’s it…damn shame.

Cosign with # 29.
She pretty much summed up the apalling state of Black British representation in the UK Music Industry.

The term ‘Urban’ is ridiculous and just an attempt toappease the white mainstream audience.

Estelle is speaking the truth, black artists can’t get no love in the UK unless they repackage you and dilute your sound down to generic pop.

There are many singers on the underground scene who are better than Amy Winehouse, Joss Stone, Adele, Duffy etc but they can’t get the light of day.

It’s the same scenario, if not worse for Black British male singers. For example, Lemar has a truly souful voice, but the shit they got him singing is ridiculous. You’ve got blue-eyed soul boys like James Morrison and Scott James who are basically recycling what was done a long time ago by many unsigned black artists.

That is why I love Estelle cos she tells it like it is. For all you people saying she’s acting like a diva, I disagree…people don’t like to hear the truth.

I see a few people have mentioned Taio Cruz and whilst I do agree that he is talented, his music is pretty bland to me.

Terri Walker is the truth, yet she get’s no love.
Beverley Knight could sing most singers, both UK and U.S out of the water, yet she get’s no love. She only get’s chart recognition when she waters down her sound to generic pop.
Keisha White is great, but I wasn’t feeling that song she did with Cassidy. Hugely underrated.
Tawiah is great(think of Floetry, but more diverse).
Shola Ama and Kele Le Roc have had their day which is a shame beause they could sing.
FDM have also been grinding for years but to no avail, but I hear that they are recording their album in LA so watch this space….
I could go on, but I think you get the picture.

Thanks CL for highlighting our plight…you never forget your UK readers!

@# 98- Amen! And I can’t believe I missed out Shystie and Lemar in my original post, but yeah all them artists you mentioned have been grinding for years or are up and coming and should get the shine they deserve, such a shame.

*BTW in my other post I meant Keisha White did a song with Cassidy not Fabulous.

THose Horny FUckheads are gettin married so they can have conjugal visits. They are not foolin me.

close as in they are fuck buddies, chea

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You should see how European media and blogs are discrediting Estelle’s comments about the British music industry’s blindness to blacks artists. Her words are distorted by bloggers and journalists who pretend she said that white singers should not sing Soul music. Which is absolutely false !!!

Here, in France, the situation is rather the same - or even worse - than in Britain. Music should not suffer from the narrow-mindedness of people. No matter what’s your skin color, if you sing with passion, authenticity and sincerity, I don’t see any problems. But European music industry and media are far too chauvinistic !!! That’s why so many Afro-european artists have to move to the US to get a chance to do their thing. The Nubians had to come to the US first, before being praised by French media. And unhappily, it ain’t ready to end.

Congrats to CL, keep up your good job. An Afro-french fan !

What about Craig David? He’s in the UK and I hear he sells alot! Europe is soooooooo tiny compared to the rest of the world- I would branch out too - in order to get recognition; although some people are interested in the money instead of the art of the music. i must agree in the US, it’s the other way around, black artists are heavily promoted- but your first album better do well.

if chris don’t like RIHANNA den i don’t know nuthing

i think rihanna and brow should be together i love u rihannaxxx olliexxxxxxxx