NEWS: COPS ACQUITTED IN SEAN BELL CASE
Friday, April 25, 2008
A crowd reacts to the verdict in the Sean Bell shooting case outside the Queens County Criminal Courts Building in New York Friday, April 25.
Three detectives were acquitted of all charges Friday in the killing of Sean Bell. Bell died after being bombarded with 50 bullets by the New York Police Department back in 2006.
Detectives Michael Oliver and Gescard Isnora were found not guilty of charges of manslaughter, assault and reckless endangerment in the death of Sean Bell, 23, and the wounding of two of his friends. Detective Marc Cooper was acquitted of reckless endangerment.
Justice Arthur Cooperman said he found problems with the prosecution’s case. He said some prosecution witnesses contradicted themselves, and he cited prior convictions and incarcerations of witnesses.
As the judge read his decision, Nicole Paultre Bell — Sean Bell’s fiancee — ran from the courtroom crying, saying, “I’ve got to get out of here.”

Backstory
In the early morning hours of Nov. 25, 2006, Sean Bell, a 23-year-old New York City man due to be married later that day, walked out of a Queens strip club, climbed into a gray Nissan Altima with two friends who had been celebrating with him - and died in a hail of 50 bullets fired by a group of five police officers.
The shooting shocked the city and brought back memories of the deaths in other high-profile police shootings - in particular, the death of Amadou Diallo, an African peddler killed after police fired 41 shots at him in 1999. Both men were black and both were unarmed, although in both cases the officers appeared to have believed the suspect had a gun. While the death of Mr. Bell did not prompt the same levels of rage and protest as the Diallo case, it prompted unsettling questions about the changes in police procedures adopted in recent years, and about whether black men remained unfairly singled out for aggressive police action.









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301.
ALL Y'LL EVIL!!!!!!!!
Friday, April 25, 2008 /
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKKKKKKKKKKKKEEEEEEEEEEEE UUUUUUUUUPPPPPPPPP! ALSO NOT FOR NOTHING THIS STORY WILL BE OVER AND WE* AS A PEOPLE WE FORGET AND GO BACK TO OUR DAILY LIVES, CLUB ON FRI IN NY, SHOPPING WITH THE REBATE CHECKS COMING NEXT WEEK, GETTIN OUR HAIR & NAILS DID.. TO GO OUT WITH THAT BUM ASS DUDE FROM THE BLOCK THAT YO GIRL GEE GEE TLD U WAS CUTE CAUSE HE GOT LONG PAPER. I MEAN IM TIRED OF PEOPLE COMPLAING AND ONLY A FEW OF US ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING.
EITEHER WE WAKE THE HELL UP OR SHUT THE HELL UP. WHATS NEXT GUYS ? WAT DA FCK IS NEXT LETS DO SOMETHING!!! AND PLEASE PRAY FOR MS BELL SHE IS IN DIRE NEED NOW. GOD BLESS HER.
BUT PEOPLE IM SERIOUS AND WHOMEVER IS WIT ME HOLLA BACK AND ILL GIVE U MY EMAIL LETS TRY AND MAKE CHANGES CAUSE OUR COUNTRY IS SUFFERING THESE THINGS DONT HELP!!!! IM SERIOUS
302.
chrissy
Friday, April 25, 2008 /
im crying right now, i dont believe this shit, i just dont believe it
303.
nigeria
Friday, April 25, 2008 /
Those cops better pray that God finds forgiveness in his heart for them. They better hope that their own bodies don’t end up in a NY river somewhere…
My heart goes out to the fiancee and the family..
it’s hard enough to find good black love as it is. God bless you and don’t give up the fight, whatever you do! You are in our prayers!
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LBOOGIE
Friday, April 25, 2008 /
#260
I checked out that site. It’s despicable. Many of the comments on there by those in law enforcement were just sick. I live in NYC and I see so many arrogant officers who abuse their authority. I’m interested to know what your thoughts are on how we as a community can come together. I protested with Charles Barron, other community leaders, organizations, etc. showed solidarity with the Bell family at vigils and I’m so sick and tired of what’s going on. I’m just really sick and tired of all these injustices. I’m interested in seeing us move to a place of dialogue on what we can do.
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shwalker1214
Friday, April 25, 2008 /
Why does it seem the legal system is setup to help criminals. I can say I feel her pain, and it is just sad. Those kids don’t have a daddy cause some cops was a lil trigger happy. Damn when will this racist shit end!
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LBOOGIE
Friday, April 25, 2008 /
#301
I am with you
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archera
Friday, April 25, 2008 /
First of all as many are, I am so outraged and saddened by this absurd verdict!
Second of all —–For people who think that just because 1 or two of the officers were Black themselves that this does not mean that racism has anything do with this case, they really need to think again. Has anyone ever heard of such a thing happening to a white man? I don’t think so. Also throughout history, black people have been conditioned against one another. Many Black people harbor the same prejudices and hatred towards their own people as their White counterparts. So People Please Please Wake Up! If you have not heard of the colonized mind or the about the psychological impact of centuries of racism, slavery and colonization on Black people, please read Franz Fanon! As many have said we Black people need to band and stick together!
Black men are particularly targeted by the police and everyone who is Black KNOWS THIS!!! I go to school in Wellesley, MA, which is a rich suburb outside of Boston. While with my man, we have been stopped more than a couple of times. The police officers have often demanded to know what we ( as Black people) were doing in the town. One time I even had to show my college id to the officer to prove that I went to Wellesley! Now tell me why was this even necessary?So yes people wake up racism is alive and well. Black people are the most devalued people on the face of the earth.
My prayers go out to Sean Bell, his fiancee and his beautiful family. May God continue to help you find strength during these difficult times. We are all praying for you. Be Strong!
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mainwun
Friday, April 25, 2008 /
CORRUPT COPS KILL BLACK PEOPLE! CORRUPT BLACK PEOPLE KILL BLACK PEOPLE! ALMOST EVERYBODY IN ALL BLACK COMMUNITIES HAVE LOST SOMEBODY KILLED BY ANOTHER BLACK PERSON! THIS HAPPENS DAILY! IF I STAY STRAPPED, REP MY HOOD AND MY SET, AND IF I AT THE DROP OF A DIME AM WILL TO BLAST ON A NIGGA IN MY OWN HOOD WHERE MY MOTHER, GRAND PARENTS, FATHER, AND MY KIDS LIVE ITS OK CUZ I’M KEEPING IT REAL. I’M KEEPING IN HOOD! FOR EVERYONE THAT READS THIS AND U LIVE IN A SO CALLED HOOD AND U A REAL NIGGA, GO OUTSIDE AND LOOK AROUND AND ASK YOURSELF HOW MUCH HAVE YOU ADDED TO DESTRUCTION OF YOUR HOOD. HOW MANY TIMES DO U HEAR “SHOUT OUT TO MY NIGGAZ IN THE PEN HOLDING IT DOWN”? NIGGAZ LOCKED UP FOR SELLIN DOPE, ROBBERY, KILLING ALL IN OUR HOODS. AIN’T NOBODY SAYIN ” SHOUTOUT TO MY NIGGAZ IN COLLEGE”, SHOUTOUT TO MY NIGGAZ IN THE HOOD THAT DON’T PARTICIPANT IN THE “KEEPIN IT REAL” FALSE HOOD! IF WE LOVE OUR HOODS SO MUCH WHY IS THE MAIN PLAN TO GET OUT IS TO SELL WEIGHT THEN MOVE TO ALL WHITE COMMUNITIES AND SAY WE MADE IT. NIGGAZ HAVE KILLED MORE SEAN BELL’S THAN THE NYPD! SHOUTOUT TO MY NIGGAZ IN THE PEN FOR KILLIN OTHER NIGGAZ LIKE THE NYPD! SHOUTOUT TO MY NIGGAZ KEEPIN IT REAL HOOD AND STAY BUSTIN THEY GUNS AT BITCH ASS NIGGAZ! SHOUTOUT TO THE NYPD FOR HOLDING THEY SET DOWN!…………WE HAVE TO WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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dukesman
Friday, April 25, 2008 /
All I am saying, let that be an Hasidic Jew or some other ethnic group or race. Every road in NYC would have been blocked and riots would have consumed the city. But unfortunately, Black people have this tendency of “as long as it’s not me or my loved ones” why should I give a damn?
Black men in all the urban areas in and around the USA need to wake up a realize that it’s open season. We need to mobilze and let our voices be heard, do what ever it takes, by any means necessary. If that means rioting and burning a couple buildings then so fucking be it. There is nothing wrong with that. Riots are good because, riots are the voices of the unheard! But until we stand up and fight for what’s right - our basic human rights that should be equally gauranteed to all, without regards race. Until that day, Black men, our dreams of equal rights will be nothing but a fleeting illusion, to be persued but never attained.
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whateverboo
Saturday, April 26, 2008 /
It’s sad, but dang if I didn’t already know what the verdict was going to be. I always know whenever stuff like this happens that the outcome will always be the same. Remember, they caught officers on tape beating the sh*t out of Rodney King and they still got out of it. What more proof did they need when that happened.
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PEEPLPAYATTENSHUN
Saturday, April 26, 2008 /
I WAS FOLLOWING THIS AS SOON AS I WAS UP IN THE MORNING WAITING FOR THE VERDICT AND WHEN I READ IT AT WORK I DIDN’T EVEN ALLOW IT TO PROCESS…BUT NOW I’M READING ABOUT THIS IN DETAIL AND SEE THE REACTION HERE, MY HEART IS FEELING REAL HEAVY…
I’M LISTENING TO ERYKAH BADU’S “A.D. 2000″ AND IT MAKES ME THINK LET’S NOT GIVE SEAN BELL A BROKEN BUILDING, LET’S BE VIGILANT IN OUR OWN HEARTS SO THIS WILL NOT GO DOWN QUIETLY. IF THAT MEANS TO START A SEAN BELL FUND, OR START A WATCH DOG PROGRAM IN YOUR COMMUNITY TO MONITOR CROOKED COP PROCEDURES OR START A MENTORSHIP FOR YOUTH, OR ORGANIZE A MARCH, OR WRITE YOUR LOCAL POLITICIAN, ETC. BASICALLY LET’S NOT JUST ALLOW THE MEMORY OF SEAN BELL BE REDUCED TO JUST A MURAL ON A 3RD RATE WALL. LET’S NOT LET SATAN POISON OUR HEARTS WITH WRATH, WE CAN BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS IN OUR ON WAYS.
GOD BE WITH THE BELL FAMILY AND THE MASSES EFFECTED BY THIS.
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Ambrosiality
Saturday, April 26, 2008 /
so so sad!
313.
get_me_bodied
Saturday, April 26, 2008 /
SHAME, SHAME, SHAME!!!!!!!!!
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Jones
Saturday, April 26, 2008 /
For the young brothas in that(16-26)age group,the power that runs this country ,fears you more than China,Russia,North Korea,and the Middle-East,combined.This age group is the true power of our race.Picture if you will an army of 1million modern day versions of Crispus Attucks,ready,willing,and able to respond to HUMAN INJUSTICE with violence,it could change the world!Brotha Attucks was also an unarmed BLACKMAN who was partying, when he sparked a revolution.The British Army viewed our oppressor as the dirt under their shoe,and a run-a-way slave freed a SUPERPOWER.I have read the comments of those who say that this young brotha was a drug dealer,that the neighborhood and strip-club warranted a strong police presence,and that he got what was coming to him.I had to sit back,and think on that a taste,and apart of me says,why DID the brotha pick an area so hot to party,and I always think in my mind BECAUSE HE EFFING WANTED TO.The last time I checked this is still America,a place were anybody coming out of a bar/club can walk to their car and not get cut to pieces in a hail of police bullets.WHITE AMERICA is scared sh–less of young brothas in a group,I don’t care if it is a group of THUGS or MBA’s it’s the same thing in the mindset of white people,and it is reflective their judicial system,and what happened to him can happen to any man of color or class.A BLACKMAN’S HUMANBEINGNESS(it may not be the correct word )gets taken away 85% of the time we get pulled over by the police.The white,black,brown,red,yellow,BOYS IN BLUE come out of their cars, with guns at the ready.This is known by all in the Black Community,DID THESE BROTHAS HAVE SOMETHING ON THE COPS?There is more to this story than is being told,it does not make sense, for three unarmed men to engage in conflict, with armed men representing the law…Young brothas in New York city it is my hope that you will keep your cool in the coming days and weeks,and don’t give them a reason to take more of you away from the ones you love,however,I hope that some of you young brothas are so mad,that you go to LAW SCHOOL to use/rewrite laws to ensure that NO MAN will endure 100% of his HUMANBEINGNESS taken away from him the way it was for SEAN BELL.GOD IS WITH YOU NOW!R.I.P BROTHA!
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emjay
Saturday, April 26, 2008 /
this is absolutely ridiculous…..how can a man get shot 50 times n the ppl involved gets away wif it?????????whats the world turning into?????probably if sean was white the case would have been diff….seriously i am black bt i dnt like whites.am nt a racist bt seen n heard many fins happen to blacks n whites get away wif it….tell me how am i suppose to like someone who doesnt like me(an eye for an eye)OMG pls b wif sean’s family its now they need u most….
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clarkthink
Saturday, April 26, 2008 /
“A slap in the face and a kick in the ass.!”
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Shakura
Saturday, April 26, 2008 /
I think this is really sad… I thought London was bad for the injustices that are caused against black people but this time the US have really ‘outshone’ themselves… I am sorry for the family of this man it is really unfair and my thoughts are with the family at this time xx
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Jill
Saturday, April 26, 2008 /
People keep saying “black cops black cops” but may i point out that only one was black one was spanish and one was white
the white one was the one to shoot 31 times
hes the one that reloaded and went at it again
the spanish one shot 4 times
and the black one shot once and he shot at the airtran terminal not sean bell
and guess what he was the only one to issue a public apology when they all had the opportunity to do so
wow!!!
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Skittles25
Saturday, April 26, 2008 /
THIS ADDRESS TO TABBY, COMMENT #131 OR WHATEVER THE HELL YOU WANT TO CALL YOURSELF…………
HOW IN THE HELL COULD YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH TO SPEAK THE WORDS
YOU SAID ABOUT THOSE YOUNG MEN. AND FOR YOUR INFO IF YOU WATCH
BET YOU KNOW THEY WERE NOT THUGS!!!! THIS MAN HAD STEP UP AND SAID HE WAS GONNA DO WHAT HE HAD TO DO TO PROVIDE FOR HIS FAMILY SO HE DECIDED TO PLAY BALL. NOW DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A DAMN THUG, I THINK NOT!!! BLACK MAN OR NOT……..NO ONE DESERVES TO BE SHOT AT THAT MANY TIMES AND DIDNT EVEN HAVE A GUN AND DIDNT EVEN DO ANYTHING TO BEGIN WITH AND ONE OF THE GUYS TOOK 16 SHOTS LUCKILY HES STILL ALIVE BUT HIS BEST FRIEND ISNT AND THEN THESE SORRY ASS COPS GET OFF FOR DOING IT!!! AND THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED TO AN INNOCENT YOUNG BLACK MALE IN NYC, SO DONT DARE SAY THE THINGS YOU SAID THAT IS WRONG!!!
WHAT IF IT WAS YOUR BROTHER OR UNCLE OR COUSIN HOW IN THE HELL WOULD YOU FEEL. I KNOW THAT MOUTH OF YOURS WOULD SAY OTHERWISE!!!! YOU NEED TO BE BANNED FROM CL!!!!!!
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Shakera
Saturday, April 26, 2008 /
That really is not right. My heart goes out to the family. I guess some things just never change.
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ja
Saturday, April 26, 2008 /
@Skittles25
You should have watched larry king. The boy did not have a job. He was selling drugs “present tense” note dates of arrests. And he gave up baseball to take care of his baby’s mamma and child like all lost souls he thought that selling drugs was the way to do this. You should be mad you should be upset. You should be so mad that you start a neigborhood watch in your area to get rid of the crime and keep the police at bay. Police follow the crime. On the same note if you par take in that lifestyle you should be prepared for what happens. They thought he had a gun, he ramed a police van, thats enough for me. Lastly anyone who partake in this life aint cool with me. I say put Frank Lucus and Big Meech ass in jail and let them stay there . I dont believe 7-8 police never identified themselves. that sound suspect. Police are proud to be police. Even more so when they feel someone is below them. The judge in the case has handle cases like this and when the police asked for a bench trial the family nor the DA disagreed. This was a fair and just trial based on who was more creidable. and you are right there is more to this story then what either party has said. Where are the strippers that he had the fight with? There where more then the police and the 3 “thugs” in the club that night where they at. All those people could have testified but they didn’t. Why? The case is not a civil right case because I’m sure everybody in that club was black. the police was there for the crime not black people although its sad that the two terms are so closely related.
AND PLEASE STOP TRYING TO GET THESE YOUNG PEOPLE TO RIOT. THAT THE WAY TO GET SHOT
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cookie
Saturday, April 26, 2008 /
@ JA. Your statement is so ignorant it actually frightens me. It’s actually hard to believe that it is possible for someone to be that simple minded. You have:
- No understanding of the facts
- No understanding of police procedure
- No understanding of this case at all.
There’s no point in even schooling someone as ignorant as you. When an unarmed innocent man is shoot 50 times while not committing a crime and the police get to walk away free as a bird by just saying “sorry, it was an accident”, justice has not been served. I hope your not a black man, because if you can’t understand that what happened to Sean Bell can happen to you your crazy.
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Sweet Lady
Saturday, April 26, 2008 /
Now this is some real bullshit…. but Im not suprised. The entire system is corrupt, but this right here is crazy. how the hell can you shoot that many times and get off the hook. These cops officially have a license to kill. no ifs, ands, or buts about it. A word to all my black brothers don’t even look their way. Its a shame that we have came this far in time and shit still has not changed. At times it feels like the black society is doomed from the moment we walk out on the streets. There is no justice served when a young man is shot down and killed on his wedding day, leaving behind two beautiful daughters and a wife. Where the hell is the justice???
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Sweet Lady
Saturday, April 26, 2008 /
o and @ ja u are very very ignorant and its people with a mental like you that would let them m***fuckas walk off free with no charges……. an innocent man is dead. no one should care about his damn record it has nothing to do with that night.
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♥texascutie♥™
Saturday, April 26, 2008 /
I don’t know what saddens me more, the fact that Sean’s fiance and family aren’t receiving any justice or the fact that two of the three officers involved in this heinous shooting were actually black… What a shameful situation.
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QDOBA
Saturday, April 26, 2008 /
This is too sad for words. I thought cops were taught to shoot to injure enough to protect themselves, not shoot to f*ckin kill!!!! Since this case had enough evidence to go to trial I believe there is enough cause to have a civil suit. I HOPE they SUE the f*ckin pants and underwear off those cops and the NYPD!!!!!!!!!! Nicole cannot have her fiance back but at least if she sues she can provide for her family for the rest of her life. These cops took her future husband away from her and its a shame. F*CK THE POLICE!
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softouchtothecore
Saturday, April 26, 2008 /
wow i am very disappointed and angered by the verdict….tghe family def should hit the city in the pockets for millions!!!!!! our people has to take a stance both against police brutality and the black on balck crime we will tolerate no more!!!!!!
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monhol
Saturday, April 26, 2008 /
why be shocked?? cops can kill whom ever they want a not pay a price. even black cops can kill black people and get away with it. as long as your a cop no matter what race, you can shot someone 50 times and walk. this is just a sad cause of black on black crime. hell they shot amodou diello a whole bunch of times also and walked. from what i hear the black cop was the first to start busting on sean bell’s vehicle. killing a black person in america is nothing. it is the norm. america and other countries have no respect for black people. those foreignors had the nerve to kill three black college kids in newark ,nj. they had no respect for those black kids. so now it is just open season on black people.
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LWB - Living while black
Saturday, April 26, 2008 /
I am so disgusted at the verdict, I am more deeply saddened and hurt for the family. It is now crystal clear that a black man could never get justice in Amerikkka. How the hell can that low life cop get off from firing over 30 shots? He had time to reload, but yet he was in fear of his life?
With all that being said, what are blacks going to do about all of this? We really need to come together and stop taking this shit. This is crazy, first Diallo with 41 shots now this? This is UNBELIEVABLE, I’m so hurt right now!
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Nadia
Saturday, April 26, 2008 /
Horrible news! Can’t believe the prosecution dropped the ball with this one. Aren’t you supposed to rehearse witnesses??
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dontmatta
Saturday, April 26, 2008 /
this really sucks. God bless that family.
racism still exists. and justice is still faked in this country.
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czones
Saturday, April 26, 2008 /
This is crazy
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TheMrs.
Saturday, April 26, 2008 /
Justice……Yeah, right!!!!!!!…SMDH with tears in my eyes and an ache in my heart.
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DeUcE
Saturday, April 26, 2008 /
That’s crazy. 50 shots is excessive. They should have stopped shooting when they realized nobody was shooting back at them. But I can’t really say I am surprised. This is how America does us in the judicial system. It’s amazing because it seems like some people really don’t give a damn about a black life. However, Michael Vick gets 2 years in prison for the life of a dog. How is that justice?
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jefluv
Saturday, April 26, 2008 /
First of all, we need to stop protesting, and rallying because black men, black women are still being murdered by these goon squads they call police officers! I say it is time to stop hanging on the corners, stop robbing, and killing one another, and really unite, and pull our resources together, so we can take care of ourselves, and not the city of new york. Lets bear arms, and protect our lives against the NYPD, because that judge gave all nypd cops the right to shoot to kill black people just because we look suspicous. When are we going to WAKE UP!! Rest in peace, not in vain SEAN BELL!
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india617
Saturday, April 26, 2008 /
I said it yesterday - will say it again today. I don’t care if he was a career criminal. I don’t even care if he was actually committing a crime. I am not a law enforcement dickhead but I know that the proper protocol; the human protocol is to shoot to injure or disarm. I don’t care the race of anyone in this situation. The cops and Sean Bell. This is plain wrong. Yes it is true I feel bad for Nicole and his kids but they are not the only victims here. If SOCIETY opens their eyes- we should all be scared. This isn’t a group of people that killed Mr Bell. It is people that took a position to Protect and Serve. This aint a mechanic, the local pimp and a high school dropout. These are people of authority. There is no way to justify 50 shots. I am sure after the first 10 rounds everything was at a standstill except perhaps the innocent bystanders running for cover…which leads me to this question- Had a passerby (white maybe) got hit with a stray?
Things that make you say hmmm?
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Fed Up
Saturday, April 26, 2008 /
my biggest fear came true…chi town police are using M4s now. if other cities adopt the same method next time someone is shot by the police it could be 100 rounds fired…..when do we stop them from treating us like this?
M4s are the rifles u.s soldiers are using in iraq….this country is a war zone ALL BECUZ OF SURVIVAL!
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Khadijah
Saturday, April 26, 2008 /
A revolution needs to come. of this. We can’t sit back and do nothing.
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india617
Saturday, April 26, 2008 /
i am with #338 Khadijah- it aint to be rebellious its to stand up and stop letting people treat us like inferiors!
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Judah
Saturday, April 26, 2008 /
I’m not going to call you anything, lol. You called yourself that so you must already know who and what you are. Don’t tell me that I don’t have a sense of the scriptures when all you people in the church do is quote the same two scriptures, out of context, (John 3:16) and the one you just quoted. I’m not going to get into another biblical debate because this is not the thread for that and you honestly don’t understand what you claim to profess. You’re obviously more concerned about caucasians than you are Sean Bell as you spent two weak sentences on that and a paragraph on myself. What I will say is that if you’re going to claim God and the scriptures, claim the entire Bible: from Gen 1:1-Rev 22:21. Don’t pull every scripture that has the word “love” in it and level it at me when there are a million and one scriptures that talk about the “terror” of the Lord, the “hate” and “jealousy” of the Lord, how the Lord is a man of “war”, and how he commanded the destruction of entire races. The Lord’s “love” is not the vain “love” that man alleges to have and that is the source of the tricknology and false teachings of the church. The “love of God” is to keep the commandments, not give every one a damn hug and lower your head to the chopping block over and over again (John 14:15, I John 5:3, etc.). The Lord’s Word tells you that when Christ comes back, not only will he put the other races into hardcore slavery for their crimes against the Lord’s people, the Israelites, but that He and the angels will kill so many people that the blood will come up to the bridles of their horses. Either you believe or you don’t but don’t allege that I have no “sense” when you have no knowledge.
Unless you can tell me who “white people” are known as in the Bible, who “black people” are known as in the Bible, “Chinese”, “Japanese”, etc. we cannot have a conversation because we’d be speaking two different languages. There are no terms like “African”, “Japanese”, or “Chinese” in the Bible so either you’re simple enough to believe that those people didn’t exist back then or you have the understanding that they were known by their biblical names at the time. The Bible is a historical book, not an emotional one, and to serve God you must love the truth in context with the history, not you’re opinion. I honestly don’t believe that you or 99% of people that claim to believe in the God of the Bible or the Bible itself actually believe in it at all because you get so quickly offended by what it says (Matt 11:6, Matt 24:10). My beliefs are based on knowledge, not emotion. This is why the church is the first thing that is built, other than a liquor store, in the black community because it is used to destroy the minds of the people, you being one of them. So you mean to tell me that God controls all and loves all, but he allows the rampant confusion, self-hatred, and virtual genocide of one race of people at the hands of all others and especially one, the so-called white man? That makes no sense because your church doctrine makes no sense. Our people have perverted the message of the scriptures because their minds are perverted. You love lies and in doing so you have taken away all hope from the young black male. He is now left to hate himself because he has no power against this system or his oppressors. This is why the coon negro MUST have the same fate as the oppressors. They are accessories to the destruction of the Lord’s Chosen and must be destroyed. You think “that’s so sad” is enough for a person that had their son, husband, or father shot at 50 times?
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Judah
Saturday, April 26, 2008 /
That’s at # 292
342.
80'sbaby
Saturday, April 26, 2008 /
I am absolutely outraged at this verdict. I mean really how do u justifiy shooting someone that many damn times? Its amazing how they can give Wesley 3 years, Vick in jail, arrested Tip at the damn Walgreens for just possessing some damn guns, but these dudes receive a get out of jail free card for mudereing a man. Are we playing monopoly now? what kind of world are we living in? And I am more disgusted with the black officers who were involved. I have a feeling they were probably the ones shooting the most. It amazes me how niggas put on a uniform and just abuse the shit out of their power. My prayers go out to the families of everyone in this situation.
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linda
Saturday, April 26, 2008 /
OK COME ON NOW LEADERS THIS IS SOME STRAIGHT UP BULL SHIT. WE NEED TO STAND BEHIND AL SHARPTON, JESSIE JACKSON, REV WRIGHT, FARAKAN, BILL COSBY, OBAMA, TELL US WHAT THE HELL TO DO THIS WRONG THIS IS STRAIGHT UP BULL SHIT. WHOM EVER IS SUPPOSE TO BE LEADERS AND WANT US TO DO THE RIGHT THING NEED TO STAND UP ITS NOT ABOUT VOTING AT THIS POINT WE NEED JUSTICE AND NOW. HOW MANY CHEEKS CAN WE TURN. GET RID OF THAT SEVENTY YEAR OLD JUDGE CLEARLY HE IS SENILE. STAND UP BLACK MEN. IT COULD JUST AS EASILY BE YOU. BEFORE THIS IS ALL OVER WITH IT MAY BE YOU.
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Danala
Saturday, April 26, 2008 /
That is so sad. R.I.P Sean Bell.
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Taylor
Saturday, April 26, 2008 /
@ TABBY . .
Because you’re a drug dealer, you deserve to get shot 50 times? I guess I learned something new today.
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flatbush vixen
Saturday, April 26, 2008 /
all i have 2 say is my man Ice Cube summed it up best when he said “This is just another of example of how the court system in America views another black life as worthless” cant get anymore realer!
R.I.P Sean! i hope u and ur fam recieve the justice u all so truly deserve! cause this is senseless!
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slideout711
Saturday, April 26, 2008 /
What would Mr. X do,,, By Any Means Necessary,,,,
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Justice96
Saturday, April 26, 2008 /
50 shots is overkill, but at the end of the day, I just wish Mr.Bell and his boys had decided to go bowling or to a movie on the night before his wedding.
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outraged by this tragedy
Sunday, April 27, 2008 /
@ Judah First off I am concerned about what had happen to Sean Bell. Hence my username (SMH@your ignorance) The only reason I didn’t write alot about the situation is because mostly everything that I wanted to say was already said……………. The only reason I commented on you because for the 3 months that i have been coming on this website, everytime you comment you are either, 1) saying something very racist, or, 2) Are constantly belittling someone. LOLOLOLOL You said your not getting into a bibical debate and yet that’s exactly what you did. I find it also interesting that you didn’t find a scripture that support your right to hate and talk viciously against a whole race of people. Also if you knew your history and geography you wouldn’t need for the bible to say wheter they’re Japanese (etc) Acts 8:27 talks about an Ethopian enunch. (Do you know what a enunch is BTW? ) anyways ethopia is in Africa menaing he was what African(BLACK). Job 1:3 says that Job is the greatest of all the Orientals. That could be Chinese, Japanes,Korean, (etc). The bible even says to have love and pray for your enemies.(Matt 5:44) But I guess that doesn’t apply to you right? You don’t go by truth you go by your own understanding (Proverbs 3:5) That’s why……………….You know what….. there’s really no need to continue this conversation. You are just one of those people who just won’t get it, until it hits right in the face and you won’t be able …….so you have a good night
……………..by the way, I don’t get that you say that 99% of us don’t know what we’re talking about right? So why do you come on this website? I mean really why? You act like you are more intelligent and more spiritually stronger than everyone on here (because you are part of the 1% that knows what you are talking about.) so this is just weird that you would waste your percious time on this website debating with people who will ultimately be destoryed. I really don’t get it…………now i’m done……for real LOLOLOL Good Night
350.
good decision by judge
Sunday, April 27, 2008 /
the judge made a good decision. it wasnt intentional and they were just trying to do there job. it had nothing to do with race. its just that they were uncooperative and each party believed their life was endanger. also bell didn’t get shot 30 times or 50 thats just how many shots were fired. it happens real quick. it doesnt matter how many was fired its as many shots as it takes to stop the threat. there are criminals and killers that do this intentionally everyday, some cops made a mistake and your ready to put them in the same category’s as murderers. i wish people would grow up and look at things outside the box and not be so ignorant.
351.
LWB - Living while black
Sunday, April 27, 2008 /
#350 You are the ignorant one, your racist views are not welcomed here. The fact is this had EVERYTHING TO DO WITH RACE!!! You do not hear this happening to young white men. This was a murder, plain and simple. There was no treat to these low life cops, none THEY DID NOT HAVE A GUN. They were not uncooperative because they never identified themselves as cops. These drunk cops were negligent and went on a shooting spree. They were shooting to kill that’s the reason why so many shots were fired, luckily 2 survived. I don’t give a damn, how fast it takes to empty a magazine. The fact that that klan cop had time to reload clearly proves that there was NO THREAT!!!! NONE. THIS WAS A MURDER, SO STOP TRYING TO JUSTIFY IT!
352.
Latasha
Sunday, April 27, 2008 /
My heart goes out to Sean Bell’s family this is a very bad situation and has affected a whole lot of people not to mention what the family is going thru, justice has to prevail. To Sean Bell’s wife, girl you got to be strong for your babies I can’t even imagine how you feel, but your children are going to need good energy from you to move on. Don’t know you at all, but just want to say I LOVE YOU.
353.
i'm gonna tell da truth
Sunday, April 27, 2008 /
@350 ARE YOU A COP?! IF SO GET YOUR TRIFFLIN BEHIND OUT OF HERE!!
ONLY DUMB A COP WHO HAVE KILLED AN INNOCENT MAN BEFORE WOULD HAVE SAID SOMETHING SO STUPID. 50 SHOTS IS RIDICULOUS AND YOU KNOW IT !!! HE DID GET SHOT 50 TIMES, SO QUIT TALKING ABOUT THINGS YOU OBVISOUSLY DON’T KNOW ABOUT. LAST TIME I CHECKED IT ONLY TAKE ONE SHOT TO GET THE JOB DONE. HOW IN THE WORLD DID THEY FEEL THREATEN AFTER THE 3 SHOTS? HE WAS ALREADY DEAD, THEY WERE JUST TRIGGER HAPPY. YOU MAKING EXCUSES FOR THEM IS SO DISTURBING!
LET’S SEE WILL YOU BE FEELING THE SAME WAY IF IT WAS YOU! AND YES THIS A RACE THING, BECAUSE WOULD HAVE GIVEN A DIFFERENT VERDICT IF HE WAS WHITE! PLEASE GO SOMEWHERE ELSE! WE DON’T WANT OR NEED YOU HERE!
354.
notbuyingit
Sunday, April 27, 2008 /
@350 shut up jackass they are murderers, only you are the ignorant one.
there has been policeman who have been doing this for over 20 years and never used a weapon. they are to be to not to make mistakes when they’re lives at hands. you big dummy
355.
LiquidStyles....A Shaolin in my own mind...
Sunday, April 27, 2008 /
“To Serve and Protect” my azz…more like “To Murder and Persecute”
The devil is a lie…..
356.
ja
Sunday, April 27, 2008 /
@good decision by judge/
You said. That is the most common sense post here. you hae unbiasist eyes
357.
Skittles25
Sunday, April 27, 2008 /
First of all Thank you Cookie for telling #321 JA what he/she needed to hear!!!
50 Shots is to damn much, 1 of the officers alone shot 31 shots he had to stop and
reload is F**$#ing gun to shoot some damn more, no at what point do you realize
nobody is shooting back at you!!!!
As for TABBY…….you talking about I must didnt watch LARRY KING, NO I didnt
watch no DAMN LARRY KING……..INSTEAD I WATCHED B.E.T. where the victim
Sean Bell’s best friend was interviewed…….And he said out his own mouth that SEAN decided that HE HAD TO PLAY BALL TO TAKE CARE OF HIS FAMILY, NOW DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A DAMN THUG TO YOU…….IF SO IT MUST BE A NEW KING OF THUG………..and “IF” and I say that lightly “IF”…..HE WAS A DRUG DEALER (WHICH I AM NOT SAYING HE WAS)….IF HE WAS HE STILL DIDNT DESERVE TO GET SHOT 50 HOT DAMN TIMES. AND ONE OF HIS BEST FRIENDS TOOK 16 SHOTS AND THAT CAME OUT THE HORSES MOUTH DURING HIS INTERVIEW ON B.E.T. AND THAT DUDE SAID HE’D TOOK MORE JUST TO SEE HIS BEST FRIEND GET UP AND WALK AWAY TO HIS FAMILY. SO I GUESS YOU SAYING HE AND HIS FRIENDS DESERVE IT…..WHAT THE F*%K EVER!!!!!!! NO BODY DESERVES TO DIE LIKE THAT, NOBODY!!!!
LET THAT HAD BEEN ONE OF YOUR FAMILY MEMEBERS OR SOMEONE YOU WERE CLOSE TO, HOW WOULD YOUR ASS FEEL???????????UGH, CANT HEAR………HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF IT WERE YOU OR SOMEONE CLOSE TO YOU????? ITS NOT RIGHT, ITS NOT FAIR!!!!!!! ITS A DAMN SHAME!!!!! AND I FEEL SO SORRY FOR THE FAMILY AND HOPE ONE DAY THAT GET JUSTICE LEGALLY THRU A JUDGE AND COURT SYSTEM THAT AINT CORRUPT!!!! AND ANYWAY THE DAMN OFFICERS HAD BEEN DRINKING THAT NIGHT, AND THAT DID ACCOUNT FOR ANYTHING, IM NOT UNDERSTANDING!!!! TRUST WHO, TRUST WHAT KIND OF SYSTEM, NOT ONE!!! THIS IS JUST A SHAME AND THESE SICK COMMENTS PEOPLE ARE MAKING SAYING HE WAS THIS AND HE WAS THAT……..SO…..AND HOW WOULD YOU KNOW………AND IF HE WAS
50 DAMN SHOTS IS STILL OVER KILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
358.
johnny canuck
Sunday, April 27, 2008 /
Trigger happy coppers go wild on un armed victim! Again, and again!!! You see we have our share of “wyatt earp” ravenous dogs who serve a fucking police state!!!! Yeah Canada has this horror put on innocent citizens by homicidal (state sponsored executioners in my opinion!) coppers too. In quebec two innocent contract construction workers asleep in their motel room were shot to bloody shreds in their beds by the Quebec Surrette(kind of state troopers), armed with automatic weapons. The workers of course like the poor gentleman shot by those coppers in N.Y.C.. were unarmed no weapons of any kind were discovered. Just like in the case of the victim in N.Y.C. the pigs opened up without warning, this tells me just like in Quebec, these coppers were cocked(safties off selector switch on full auto, weapon at the ready), to start shooting …….DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEAN?!!!!??? THAT DENOTES THAT THEY WERE READY TO FIRE!!!! TO ME …(in my opinion…) THIS SMACKS OF AMBUSH, TACTICS FIRE FIRST( says predisposed to “see a weapon” PUT EVERYONE DOWN,CONTROL THE FIELD OF FIRE…. typical paramilitary training with a twist of overkill!! There was an incident at Ipperwash where an unarmed protester was shot to death by O.P.P . paramilitary swat type unit.again overkill with a PREDISPOSITION TO”SEE” A WEAPON SO FIRE FIRST!!!! WHAT A TERRIBLE LOSS FOR THIS YOUNG BRIDE TO BE. MY MOST HEARTFELT SYMPATHY FOR YOUR LOSS AND THIS YOUNG MANS FAMILY LOSING A SON TO THIS OBVIOUS OUTRAGE. I TRULY HOPE THAT THROUGH THE CIVIL SUIT THE TRUTH IS SHOWN AND THE MISCREANTS ARE HELD UP TO THE LIGHT OF VERACITY WHICH WILL ILLUMINATE THE SHORTCOMINGS IN SUCH A LOOSE SHOOTING POLICY OF THE COPPERS.
359.
Mizz NYC
Sunday, April 27, 2008 /
The whole situation is unfair. There’s no way the cops should have been aquitted of the charges. & someone had the audacity to call up the fiancee’s house and laugh at them. Here’s the link:
http://www.nypost.com/sev...probing_taunts_108298.htm
what is this country coming to…
360.
atl_1987
Sunday, April 27, 2008 /
The NY Post just reported that after the verdict Nicole and her father recieved a phone call at their home during which the caller laughed at them and hung up–the call was traced to the Sergeants Benevolent Association, a NY police union. They had just returned from the verdict and visiting Sean Bell’s grave site when they recieved the call.
361.
Beth
Sunday, April 27, 2008 /
Throughout this country’s history people of color (and other non-wealthywhitemales) have been publicly and privately abused, and that abuse is very often sanctioned or covered up by the government. Now, tragically, this innocent young man’s life was taken by a barrage of NYPD bullets. The men who shot at him 50 times have been released without punishment by the courts of America.
For a long time, I have been keenly aware of the racism that exists in our public and private institutions, especially the criminal justice system. Particularly due to my involvement in the recent incident, I have paid special attention to how the media reports on this story.
I found it curious that on CNN Crime, at the very bottom is a list of “usual suspects.” The linked photos include a child rapist and murderer, as well as the former police officer suspected of murdering at least two of his former wives. Among the four photos was also a photo of Sean Bell. Why is this young man’s photo displayed among a group of suspected criminals? Sean Bell’s photo has been listed under “Usual Suspects” on CNN Crime for several months now…
The media has blatantly blanketed this case in racist/elitist propaganda, describing the crime scene as a “seedy stripclub.” The worst is the intentional degradation of this young man’s character and the character of the other victims. The way he chose to have a private celebration with his friends, during which he at no time became violent, should be irrelevant! But, that has obviously impacted many peoples feelings about this man.
The media owes this man’s family an apology. But, unfortunately, I know full well that in today’s world, an apology is not an acknowledgment of guilt and decision to do better, but a corporate compromise to silence opposition. Apologies won’t change these people’s minds.
Furthermore, I fully realize the legal burden of proof required in this case, and also acknowledge the fact that the Bell family will probably (hopefully) get a large civil settlement and receive at least some type o retribution and acknowledgment of guilt. However:
The fraction of the amount of money spent to silence the dissent against racism pales in comparison to the exorbitant revenue gained by oppressing minorities!!!”
The words used in American public and private discourse to describe persons of “minority” cultures have a deep meaning about how America truly feels about diversity and acceptance.
All these issues that my opponents say are used as “race bait” are, in fact, roots/branches of the same rotten tree.
Sean Bell’s murder and the acquittal of those men who brutally and ruthlessly shot an unarmed man are evidence of how America truly feels about us. The situation is dire and the time is now.
God bless the soul of Sean Bell. May his death be a call to action to us all.
It’s going to take 50 bullets to stop me from telling the TRUTH about racism and elitism in America. We are at war, but our ammunition is education and organization!
362.
Beth
Sunday, April 27, 2008 /
Throughout this country’s history all non-wealthywhitemales have been publicly and privately abused, and that abuse is very often sanctioned or covered up by the government. Now, tragically, this innocent young man’s life was taken by a barrage of NYPD bullets. The men who shot at him 50 times have been released without punishment by the courts of America.
ANYONE NOTICE? On CNN Crime, at the very bottom is a list of “usual suspects.” The linked photos include a child rapist and murderer, as well as the former police officer suspected of murdering at least two of his former wives. Among the four photos was also a photo of Sean Bell. Why is this young man’s photo displayed among a group of suspected criminals? Sean Bell’s photo has been listed under “Usual Suspects” on CNN Crime for several months now…
The media has blatantly blanketed this case in racist/elitist propaganda and that has obviously impacted many peoples feelings about this case.
Yes, the Bell family will probably (hopefully) get a large civil settlement and receive at least some type o retribution and acknowledgment of guilt. However:
The insignificant amount spent to silence the dissent against racism does not compare to the revenue gained by oppressing minorities!!!”
God bless the soul of Sean Bell. May his death be a call to action to us all.
It’s going to take 50 bullets to stop me from telling the TRUTH about racism and elitism in America. We are at war, but our ammunition is education and organization!
If we only stand up when someone dies, we’re all stuck trying to change things too late…
Bless up,
Beth
363.
Nikki
Sunday, April 27, 2008 /
This is so messed up…R.I.P Sean Bell
364.
Sweet Lady
Sunday, April 27, 2008 /
@350 shut ur ass up…… u sound like one of them effin pigs talkin crazy like that. bottom line is all them shots were excessive. Those cops were under the influence and killed an innocent man dont u get it!!!!!!!!!!!! not to mention the other 2 that were injured. Dont come to the hood talkin that shit or u might get got now try that for ignorance
365.
Suzy Q
Sunday, April 27, 2008 /
People are saying that this is not a race issue because there was a black cop (uncle tom) involved and that makes me extremely mad. Had it been a white man that got killed and some white people that got injured, you know those cops would have never been acquitted. Black celebrities are going to prison for small shit and when it comes to killing a black man, no one cares. Honestly, I hate bringing up race but this is some straight up racist shit. They do shit like that in Orlando, so FUCK the police. Lazy ass motherfuckers make everything worse.
366.
PEEPLPAYATTENSHUN
Sunday, April 27, 2008 /
@350 YOU GOTTA BE A COP TALKIN BOUT THEM “TRYING TO DO THEIR JOB”-TALK ABOUT B*THCAS*NESS
FOR YOU TO REALLY COME OFF LIKE THIS SH*T IS HUNKY DOORY, YOU MOST DEF MUST ME 1TIME, AND PROBABLY A ROOKIE AT THAT
YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU NEED TO CHECK OUT THE DOCUMENTARY “MEETING DAVID WILSON”
367.
dats_da_truth
Sunday, April 27, 2008 /
Why does it matter if he was shot 50 times instead of once?
Why does it matter if he was a drug peddler instead of a saint?
Why does it matter if he was a family man about to get married, instead of a bachelor?
As Judah said, Black people are too simple.
Whether is was by an array of bullets, by drug overdose, by gang warfare, by sexual deviances and HIV, or by the simple fact, HE was born to an unwed, single black mother…the black man has always faced extermination ( too ignorant to realize it…and too ill-equipped to do anything about it).
And for those who can see further than their noses understand, if the black male species is endangered, the same will become of the black woman.
Ignorance is SIN…and now I understand why.
368.
kayla richie
Sunday, April 27, 2008 /
i feel that the sean bell murder was horrible. this makes me think that there is no hope for us as african americans. i cant understand how you can kill a police and get life , but a polie kills someone else and gets aquitted it just does not seem right. how can we look up to police officers and not be scared if there hurting the innocent.
my prayers go out to the whole sean bell family.
369.
riche rich
Sunday, April 27, 2008 /
That was a total miscourage of justice. i am certain that this evil judge and wicked prosecuter and these rouge cops are all in bed together. I pray that hte federal prosecuter pick this case up and give these three criminals what they truly deserve.
370.
jus my opinion
Sunday, April 27, 2008 /
i live in brooklyn, ny and the streets are definitly in an uproar right now. I was outside on friday following the verdict and everyone’s blood was boiling. sad 2 say im not surprised, amadou was shot 41 times and he wasn’t leaving a strip club he was entering his own apartment and those officers got off as well!!!!!!!!!!!! black ppl we really need 2 get our shit together or else there will never be change. i’m only 18 but im pretty sure if this was back in the 60’s or 70’s all hell would be breaking loose! I’m not promoting a riot or anything but we cant just sit back quietly while they kill us. They already know what it is so they are not worried, we’ll all be angry for a while but in a few weeks all will be forgotten until another black man is murdered then we’ll pretend to care again.
i’ve been in brooklyn all my life and if a police officer is shot the whole city is put on a stand still. police and helicopters everywhere on the hunt searching especially knowing that the suspect is usually a black male. best believe when he is caught his as is getting life in prison and thats only because ny doesnt have the death penalty.
i know it probably sounds stupid but i kinda wish they were armed so at least they could have shot back at the officers. in my opinion they would have been better off shooting back at the officers and serving time because sean bell died for nothing.
this is really heartbreaking because as a child police officers and fire fighters are supposed to be your heroes but its not like that anymore. My friends and I try to avoid them at all costs.
AMERICA DOESN’T CARE ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE!!!!!!!!
and by the time we wake up and realize this it will be too late……im really on some marcus garvey back 2 africa ish rite now……..i now see y so many of my loved ones left the U.S. and are living happily in other countries.
371.
jus my opinion
Sunday, April 27, 2008 /
@ JA
seriously dig a hole and bury yourself!!!!!!
so wat if he selled drugs in his PAST or if it wasn’t really his wedding day….ur bringing up irrelevant info like u r trying to justify what happened……point blank he was shot no once not twice but 50 TIMES and killed leaving behind 2 young children and a fiance…..he was not a saint but he was not a serial killer or rapist and did not deserve 2 die that way
372.
Taylor
Sunday, April 27, 2008 /
This makes me so sick. I sat an cried about it. When young life is taken for no reason except for the color of his skin and the “stero types” and a trigger happy cop it hurts me. It also hurts to know that those cops are verdict “not guilty”. I just hope the cops and the judge enjoys their slow burn in hell for this. I hope those cops that shot him 50 times can’t sleep and can’t live with what they have done. I hope it eats away them until they shells of their former racist selves. If they can live with all that then they really deserve a special wing in hell just for them!!
373.
Jellee
Sunday, April 27, 2008 /
With this verdict I am once again reminded that because I am BLACK I essentially have no rights. This man was celebrating his upcoming nuptials and was shot down in hail of bullets because he didn’t have the right complexion, which is what it all boils down to, for protection. Had he been a white man in Manhattan, New York he would have probably been escorted to his condo in the heart of the city and given a slap on the wrist. The NYPD is basically practicing genocide against our young black men, now more then ever we need to rally together and protest this injustice against not just civil rights but human rights.
374.
Taylor
Sunday, April 27, 2008 /
i so agree with you on that one.
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leah
Sunday, April 27, 2008 /
the police kill us for fun and get away with it all the time, we need to stand strong in this day in age, those cops will get whats coming to them….what goes around comes around
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