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NEWS ROUNDUP: PHILLY BEATING UPDATE / BLACKS TELEVISION NEWS CHANNEL / NEW NAACP PRESIDENT

Tuesday, May 20, 2008

Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter, right, and Commissioner Charles Ramsey, left.

After a two-week examination of the video which showed Philadelphia police officers beating three suspects, the city’s police commissioner announced that four officers were fired and four others demoted or suspended.

The eight officers were among 18 who surrounded a car earlier this month, dragged the suspects out of the car and began kicking and punching them while they lay on the ground.

We do have a group of officers whose actions were outside department policy and procedure,” Commissioner Charles Ramsey told a news conference on Monday.

The officers may face criminal charges by Philadelphia District Attorney Lynne Abraham, whose office is now examining the video. The FBI is also reviewing the video, Ramsey said.

BLACK TELEVISION NEWS CHANNEL

When it launches in 2009, the Black Television News Channel (BTNC) will be a 24/7 cable news network that provides original news programming with a distinctly African-American perspective, filling a major gap in coverage of African-Americans by today’s mainstream media.

Created by J.C. Watts, a former Republican congressman from Oklahoma, the network is part of a multi-year carriage agreement with Comcast Cable. Initial distribution will be limited to Philadelphia, Chicago, Detroit, Washington, Atlanta and Baltimore.

As BTNC brings blacks news from their own points of view, it hopes to stem growth and maturation of black people who will not only be on-air talent but the ones making editorial decisions on what stories actually get covered. Watts said, “Our unique and vast content partnerships with African American newsmakers will provide our viewers live access to the stories and people in whom our viewers have a special interest.”

For more info, visit BTNC.TV.

NEW NAACP PRESIDENT

The NAACP has chosen its next leader.

On Sunday, after meeting for eight hours, the board chose 35-year-old activist and former news executive Benjamin Todd Jealous. He is the youngest leader in the 99-year old organization’s history, but he says he’s excited.

Jealous told The Associated Press, “I think that it’s a real affirmation that this organization is willing to invest in the future, to invest in the ideas and the leadership of the generation that is currently raising black children in this country.”

He will take office as president in September. His bio is now available on the NAACP website.

( SOURCES: Reuters, Louisiana Weekly )
( Photo: AP )

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1.

parks68110

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

They deserved that ass whoopin!! Damn criminals shooting at people,

2.

Nothing But Love

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

That new black station better do a better job than BET..

3.

kinahbinah

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

I’m loving the black new channel..thats whats up!

4.

who i am

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

Man, I don’t think those officers should have been fired. Because being in the police department is like being in a family and if somebody killed one of my brothers i would have whipped their behinds to. True they didn’t have to do as much as they did but I don’t think they shouldve been fired.

5.

jus my opinion

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

its about time we had our own news channel, hopefully they do a much better job than BET. too bad i cant watch it out here brooklyn.

6.

SHA

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

R U SERIOUS, WHO I AM?????? NOW POLICE OFFICERS ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ON- CALL VIGILANTES! THEY ARE HERE TO SERVE AND PROTECT, NOT BEAT UP PEOPLE. THEY SHOULD BE FIRED AND PROSECUTED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT. POLICE OFFICERS HAVE BEEN GETTING AWAY WITH TOO MUCH THESE DAYS AND THEY NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS ALONG WITH CRIMES IF THEY COMMIT THEM. IF WE CANT TRUST THE D#MN POLICE, WHO CAN WE TRUST!

7.

1nubianqueen

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

Interesting, very interesting.

8.

gg boo

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

The new President seems very focused and wow he’s young. I wonder what he’s got planned. I hope that new channel is a positive look at the community and real news, and not all boot-leggy looking. I want a polished looking channel that i can flip to watch good shows and catch up on the news.

police officers are not supposed to be vigilantes any more than we are “allowed” to retaliate when something happens that we don’t like. it’s not right and they were outside their limits. i’m glad they got fired. if we have to live by the law so do they.

9.

Chaka

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

BET is the worst. Let’s hope this new Channel fills the video. I have a feeling it might since JC Watts was up and coming until he was used and abused by the Republican party.

10.

Lola Am

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

I’m excited about the new channel, but unfortunately it won’t be in my neck of the woods for awhile.

11.

Original Truth (I don't care if ya get mad)

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

hmm @ officers… four officers *smh*

hmmm @ new channel…. like the spanish station I suppose… not sure I’m all for it as of yet…. I would have to check it out first…. We aren’t really filling the gap by separating but it has been and will always be a hard fight to stay relevant by not separating ourselves from mainstream media. I’m sure they are staying away from the BET style and I really hope they stay away from overkill in celeb news as well!

Knowing what’s going on locally is far more interesting once you get past the shootings. true story…

oh ok @ NAACP Pres, young with fresh new approach!!! Good for him!!

12.

sassydancer

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

All 8 should of been terminated and black balled from ever performing as a police official ever again.

13.

sassydancer

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

oh yes, congrats to the new naacp president

14.

Emma V's Great-Grandaughter

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

Thoes police officers should be in jail.

Congrats to the new NAACP president!

The black news channel should be interesting.

15.

who i am

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

@ SHA, first of all people those guys deserved to be beat because instead of a bank it couldve been one of us! i’m tired of people that are killing and robbiing getting away because of some loop hold. If we paddled people the way they paddled that boy some years ago for stealing we wouldnt hve the problems we have now!

16.

awp3309

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

I am sorry, I myself do not agree with the police officers being fired. I am a stern believer that if you put yourself in a situation and there is an after affect, then that is your fault. These three suspects were caught selling to an undercover police officer and was in a shooting prior. If the three suspects had not been doing illegal activity, then they would not have had to worry about being beat by the police. Before anyone says a nasty comment to me, I do live in Philly (in the heart of north philly I might add) and I see all types of things going on every day. So excuse me if I seem a little hard hearted. I think that the police officers should be severely disciplined. Why is it that we as a people only come together when our sons or daughters are in trouble? Something bad happens to them with the police involved, then the ‘victims’ family members are on TV screaming about police brutality and how their son is a good person who has a job and is good to everyone. If that is the case then why are they outside shooting at people? Why are they out there selling illegal drugs because they want to make a fast buck. Perhaps if those same family members were actually taking the time to raise their children, then maybe they would be into the stuff that they are into now. Again before anyone says anything negative like maybe their mothers were single mothers, again I must point out that MY mother was a single parent who worked everyday and raised my brother and I and we turned out ok. Both my brother and myself have college degrees and I have a Masters degree. So that can not be used as an excuse. I am raising my sons the way I was raised and I think that they are going to turn out fine.

17.

who i am

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

And we should be able to trust that if somebody robs or steals from me or anyone else they will get their behinds whipped and jailed!

18.

who i am

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

and maybe they’ll never do it again

19.

Liz

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

No, I’m sorry that is straight up ignorant to say they DESERVED to be beat! Who are you people?! Given the history of police brutality, how dare you write that they DESERVED it?! What they DESERVED was a fair trial, some evidence, and some semblance of proof. But ya’ll dumb asses saying they deserved it. Who needs racists, when we *presumably* have Blacks that are willing to condone brutality.

2nd point: BET news is created by a Black Republican…That raises some flags for me but it sounds like a great idea. I’m excited about it launching next year.

20.

who i am

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

@19 are you serious condoning police brutality! these men robbed a bank that you or your children could have been in! they shot a killed someone for no reason other then greed! it has nothing to do with racism but everything to do with whats right! if that were you, you would not feel the same way, if you were ever robbed, if you were ever shot at, if you were ever harmed for no reason at all

21.

Diabolical

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

Thank goodness, because BET and TV1 don’t do much of anything. Although I really do like Michael Baisden and Roland Powell. I hope to see Roland on this new network ………………………… whenever it starts showing in my city (Dallas).

22.

JUJU

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

HOW DO THEY DESERVE TO BE BEAT WHEN A PERSON COMMIT A CRIME THEY GET ARRESTED!!!!! IGNORANT PPL I SWEAR!

HOPEFULLY THE NEW CHANNEL WILL BE BETTER THAN BET!

23.

chelle

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

I think some of you don’t have the facts straight. In Philadelphia, the whole cop getting fatally shot at a bank incident is seperate from the beating of these three men.

24.

latoya

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

BET is going down hill. What happened?

Those Police should never be able to work again!

25.

Mark

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

To #4, I understand that you would act that way if something terrible happened to your family because I know I would too. But they are cops. They are supposed to have self control, that’s what sets them apart from the criminals who act out in rage. Can you imagine someone with all the power they have just start beating on you and you know if you defend yourself you can be killed and have it be called “justifiable”? It’s scary!

26.

awp3309

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

If the someone especially the people of Philadelphia know that the cops are not doing what they are supposed to morally and ethically, why would you continue to commit crimes knowing that you can possibly be arrested and something like this could happen to you? If you know the police would do something like this (i.e. Rodney King) why commit crimes in the first place? Why not go on the straight and narrow? If the suspects had not been shooting at someone or had not sold to an undercover police officer, they would not have had to worry about a beat down. One thing that I can say about police officers, they take care of each other and the ‘victims’ have to know that the police officers who committed the crime in the first place will not be fully disciplined no matter how much a mother is on TV screaming about how her child is a good boy and would never ever do such a thing. I am doing everything in my power to make sure that my boys end up good decent people. If they did turn out ‘bad’ and they committed a crime, I would be the first to dime them out. At no time do I condone bad or illegal behavior. Perhaps if the suspects had been beat down at home, they would not have to worry about police brutality.

27.

ASHY LARRY

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

IT’S ABOUT TIME WE GET OUR OWN NEWS STATION SO WE AS BLACKS CAN BE INFORMED ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND HOW TO MAKE THEM BETTER. BET SURE AS HELL AIN’T DOIN AND DAMN THING FOR BLACK FOLK BUT MAKING US LOOK LIKE A BUNCH OF IGNORANT COUNTRY ASS SYRUP SIPPIN BOOTY SHAKIN COONS. I REMEBER THE DAYS WHEN BET WAS THE BLACK NEWS CHANNEL. NOW THAT STATION IS GOOD FOR NOTHING. IT’S ACTUALLY POISONING OUR COMMUNITY. FUCK YOU BET AND ALL THE OTHER IGNORANT ASS COONS THAT WORK FOR THAT STATION. BURN BET BURN!!

28.

Ms215

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

I have never commented on this site but as I read some of these comments there are some that have no clue as to what’s going on. The 3 who had been beaten (one who happens to be my cousin) did not rob the bank. That was a whole different situation. Y’all need to google and then re-comment. I, however believe that just them 4 being fired was not enough. The story has been changed 3 times. These so called witnesses/people that were shot at did not even show up to the preliminary hearing. So called there were 4 men and one fled on foot throwing the “weapon” into an alley which has yet to be discovered. Also the witnesses never saw a car..these people who did the shooting were on foot. They didn’t even find drugs or anything in the car. Them cops were pissed off cause yet another one of their people have been killed in a seperate situation dealing with 3 black men and believed my cousin to be the fleeing fugitive. They placed my cousin and the other guy picture side by side and YES there were similarities. Philadelphia cops are full of bullshit!! They are trying to come up with any story to place these innocent men in jail. WHY? because they have a long rap sheet of wrong doing.

29.

Sharonda

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

Finally people can stop bitching about BET, like it’s the only station on your cable box.I don’t know why Blacks think because “black” is being attach that it’s just black “owned.” But this should be a good look.

30.

Tbeenitsince87

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

lol @ all the comments… but my question is WHO is really watchin BET bc it seems to me that everybody is pretty much over it.

31.

SassyT

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

Good! Those police officers deserved to get fired. They can’t just go around beating people; that’s not their job. What’s wrong with folks? Let the law handle them; police are not the judge, jury, or the executioner so they had no right to beat those men. Period!

I understand the frustration must of us feel regarding criminal activity, and to be honest with you, if they were to beat anyone, I say beat child molesters and/or abusers (sorry about that), but that’s beyond the point. It is not their job to take justice into their own hands. That’s why we have a court system. Is the court system always fair and just? No, but we can’t afford to have police taking matters into their own hands. Enough have gotten away with this kind of crap for so long, so again, justice was served.

32.

SassyT

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

correction “most of us feel”

33.

CURIOUS_MINDS

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

@28

If your cousin and his friends are so innocent - WHY DID THEY RUN?
The beating was a result of a POLICE CHASE!
I live in North Philadelphia and I’ve been following the story closely.
I belive the witnesses probably didn’t show up out of fear. You know as well as i do what happens to these witnesses when they show up to court and testify against these criminals. Our city is OUT OF CONTROL.
Everyone including you, me, your cousin, his friend, the community, and the police need to work together so that our children are safe. The summer is just around the corner and 2 children were just last week. IT NEEDS TO STOP

34.

CURIOUS_MINDS

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

^ *2 children were shot just last week*

35.

Ms215

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

@ 33
First off the so called witnesses claimed that 10 people approached them including a girl. So if there were 10 people where did the other 7 go that quick? A shooting had occurred a few day before where my cousin and the 2 other guys were in the neighborhood visiting the family of their deceased friend. Not to mention all of a sudden this witness that was shot claimed to had ran and the cops so called beat him but in the initial interview him being beat was never mentioned. The story done changed 1 too many time its rediculous. These witnesses never even saw the car they were in. Granite the city is definitely out of control but that still does not give them 18 cops the right to act as they did. They believed my cousin was Eric Floyd.

36.

WillPwr

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

The new NAACP President looks white to me!

37.

D-MAN

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

B E T is WHACK because they SOLD OUT like EVERY outher BLACK OWNED MOM and POP store did so FOOLISHLY.
It’s the same JOHNSON (appropriate name)who started TALIKIN mess about OBAMMA.what a SELL OUT.

now B E T is owned by VIACOM which owns VH1 MTV CMC so ALL these channels will FOREVER MORE have simular shows.Like REAL WORLD/COLLEGE HILL,HELL DATE/X FACTOR ect.ecetura.

but YOU CAN CHANGE this situation of boring shows and START a FUTURE in YOUR city by going to YOUR PUBLIC ACCESS CHANNEL and LEARN and CREATE YOUR OWN SHOW(S) thru this MOSTLY FREE venue,but a LOT of YOU individuals LACK THE DRIVE to HANDLE YOUR BUSINESS on YOUR OWN or own TIME.none the less the opprotunity is there so now THE BALL IS IN YOUR COURT.

By law every city that has CABLE has to have an PUBLIC ACCESS VOICE/CHANNEL IN THAT CITY, but this will COME TO AN END because the CABLE companies are trying to say THE PUBLIC DOES’NT NEED a VOICE and LACK of PEOPLE using this FREE EQUIPTMENT just ain’t there.

this is the SAME WAY ANONDA LEWIS got her START.

38.

Kamee'

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

Its about time the NAACP hired a young president. . . . I was just talking to my grandmother about this the other day. If they don’t make some changes STAT, the orginization will see a demise when those Civil Rights Blacks who run it die off.

Good Up for the orginization. What a perfect time to allign this with our renewed interest in politics, life, the future of our generation etc. Now i hope they actually allow him to make some changes, unlike the last president who resigned becuase they wouldn’t let him lead with his vision.

39.

dctrinigyal

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

FORMER DC CHIEF RAMSEY KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING.FIRING THEM DUMB ASS COPS WAS THE BEST THING TO DO. WE SURE NEED HIS TAIL BACK IN DC…ONE OF THE BEST CHIEF OF POLICE WE HAD.

40.

AWJ12687

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 /

Yes yes yes it’s about damn time police get some consequences. U can’t go around beating people cause you have a badge. Anyone trying to give the police any form of an excuse is completely out of sync with the world. Shooting or not who deserves that they were beat like the police was the bloods from over there on Crenshaw. Unprofessional and uncalled for if you can’t do your job correctly you don’t need it. Thats the problem with blacks and police now they have authority so they do what they want when they want. Even to innocent people so when they get called out I am happy regardless of the circumstances.

As for BTNC I don’t know how long thats gonna last. Not to be negative but I dunno if it will get recognition or at least enough to stay on air. I’m sure it would be a very positive influence for the black community but will it be supported?

41.

Tatiana

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 /

I’m actually excited to hear about the forming of BTNC. As #21 said, BET and TVOne don’t do much of anything (but I give TVOne for being INFINITELY better than BET). I would definitely watch it—at least to see if its worth being supported. Its about time someone decided to bring a real Black news offering to the airwaves.

42.

Jazz

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 /

Those cops got what they derserve

43.

come on people

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 /

@16 I agree with you. The cops deserved the reprimand, but I don’t feel sorry for the three men. @HIS SUPPOSE “COUSIN” Sorry but I don’t.I notice that you didn’t answer that person question. If he wasn’t guilty why did he run? You don’t run if you’re innocent. It’s funny how those in the wrong are always protrayed as angels. SMH.

44.

Phillyjawn

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 /

The Pigs [officers] deserved what they got. To the morons that say those boys got what they deserverd, they weren’t even involved in the shooting of the cop. Get your story straight before you make idiotic statements. Those cops felt slighted and was out to whoop ass, they think they’re above the law.

45.

Phillyjawn

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 /

deserved*

46.

Denise(The First, LOL)

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 /

I AM SO GLAD THOSE PIGS GOT FIRED-THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS JUSTIFIABLE ABUSE. I HATE TO GET OFF TOPIC, BUT THAT OLDER GUY IN PHOTOED IN THE COP PICTURE-TO THE RIGHT, WITH THE GLASSES ON IS FINE!

THE LAST NAME JEALOUS, WOW, I KNOW HE GOT INTO MANY FIGHTS-”HEY WHAT IS YOUR LAST NAME?” “JEALOUS”, “SAY WHAT DUDE!” lol.

I AM GLAD THAT THE NAACP ARE THINKING ABOUT THE YOUNGER GENERATION. I HOPE THE BLACK NEWS CHANNEL, THIS TIME WILL TALK ABOUT ISSUES AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS, AND NOT HOW MUCH BLOOD PRESSURE WE HAVE AND WHAT STUDIES SAY ABOUT HOW WE ARE AT RISK FOR EVERYTHING.

47.

india

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 /

i hope the people commenting on here defending the cops are not black, if so that is a shame. we have a very fcked up history with police and we all know they’ve made up lies for centuries for reason to beat or lynch blacks, how can people in 2008 still fall for that?

48.

NoMoSoul

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 /

What??? Why the hell do we need a Black News Television channel? This only prolongs the separation of the races. We’re all fuckin Americans. White black asian. We’re not Mexicans. Its not like Africa is directly connected to the continent. Tell CNN to start covering more news that involves black people.

You gotta be kidding me, a fuckin Black News Channel? How are we supposed to all come together if they keep separating us this way….Lets move on to the future , dammit.

49.

good thing!!!!!!

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 /

BTNC………the fact that it is owned by a black republican is a good thing. I’m not even republican, but at least there are chances that we will not have anything stereotypical, unless he becomes a puppet then we’ll have a problem. I’m not saying that Democrats are about that “hood” thing, I’m a Dem myself and I’m against anything stereotypical, but most republicans want the good image, so I’m giving BTNC the benefit of the doubt.

50.

good thing!!!!!!

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 /

* not saing that “all” Democrats…

51.

good thing!!!!!!

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 /

Well it has been asked for years and CNN aint hearing it, blacks need to own more media. Im delighted. Thats like how hollywood had to create their own “black hollywood” for independent movies giving more diverse roles to blacks cause the mainstream hollywood doesn’t want change.

52.

Cash S

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 /

I find it quite odd that the presidents of the NAACP keep getting lighter and lighter in skin tone. This new president can almost pass for white. Is the NAACP still doing the brown paper bag test?

The black news channel is interesting; I guess seperate-but-equal still works in this day and age.

53.

sxyQblondie

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 /

SAD PART ABOUT POLICE BRUTALITY IS THAT YOU’D THINK IT WOULD STOP WITH ALL OF THESE SUCKERS BEING EXPOSED. BUT IT CONTINUES. AND EACH TIME, THE NEW ONES THINK THEY’RE SLICKER THAN THE LAST. HECK, IVE RUN INTO MORE BLACK ONES THAT FEEL THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO PROVE TO THEIR WHITE COHORTS THAN A LITTLE BIT. SO THEY TREAT YOU LIKE TRASH, NOT NECCESARLY BECAUSE YOU DID ANYTHING WRONG, BUT BECAUSE YOU ARE BLACK WHICH MAY AUTOMATICALLY MAKE YOU SUSPECT IN THEIR EYES. WHICH IS PATHETIC. WHY SHOULD IT HAVE TO COME TO THEM GOING TO TRIAL? WHY DOESNT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE EMPLOYEES THAT KNOW HOW TO CARRY OUT THEIR DUTIES LAWFULLY? THEYVE BEEN GETTING AWAY WITH IT TOO LONG, THATS WHY. WITH ONLY SLAPS ON THE WRIST.

54.

ja

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 /

First on the Police in PA. Crime is a problem. we dont like it but we condon it in our nieghorhoods. I truly believe that if the suspects hant robbed the bank and killed someone the police would have no cause. These crimnals ran from the police. If you are man enough to do the crime be man enough to get caught. Why run?

Second, BET started out the sameway. This will not work and it wont belong before BET News will follow in the sameway as ill fated BET. There is no such thing as Black or White news. It all news. What people dont understand that first and foremost TV is about money. What ever bring in the money is what aires. Look at O channel?

lastly, some one plesse tell me what the purpuse of the NCAAP is. I just want to know. I know it was formed during Civil Rights, but what does it do now and why the importance of a president.

55.

Eve

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 /

No one deserves to get beat regardless of the crime they commit. Im glad the officers were fired and wish still that some justice was served in the Sean Bell case. Hard to even comprehend how they were acquited, when the other day an HIV positive man got 35 years in prison for spitting in the eye and the mouth of a police officer. Its crazy

56.

Ms215

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 /

@43 they didn’t run…
@44 THANK YOU!!

57.

come on people

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 /

@55 Then why was there a police chase? Look I’m not condoning what the police did but at the same time if they didn’t put themselves in that situation then none of this would have happened. Why is it that people want to act all high and mighty when they know full well they probably would have done the exact same thing the police had did, after all none of us is perfect. The police do believe that the three were involved in the police shooting and part of a drug ring. I wonder if the police were black would y’all feel differently? I think the police should have been fired, but at the same time, I don’t feel sorry for those men sorry I just don’t. We so worried about getting justice for those who are in the wrong so much, that we don’t pay attention to the real victims of crimes.The innocent.

58.

JUDAH

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 /

@Nomosoul

There would be no sentiment for a black news channel if they other news channels reported the news in a non-biased manner. In regards to “moving forward”, I have no idea what you’re referring to because the other races have NO DESIRE to come together with the majority of simple black people. Black people refuse to add onto each other, so what the hell do the other races have to gain by coming together with blacks? They’re already getting everything that they want by leaching from blacks.

59.

Amarie4911

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 /

SMH at you Uncle Toms contributing to the stereotyping of young black men. I was so irritated when I read some of the comments because it is obvious that some of you don’t even know the whole story. In Philly’s Daily News there is now a story that talks about how the police and the report that they filled out is contradictory to what they said happened. And on top of that, some of you fools said that if they weren’t guilty, then why did they run. Well, the police report does not say that they ran or resisted arrest and they were never charged for it. To all of you who were so quick to believe and judge, what ever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

60.

TomBoutUs

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 /

Hopefully Jealous can take the NAACP towards a new direction where they are truly focused on advancement and not just looking for examples of racism to protest about. We need leaders that want to take us to the next level. I really hope that the black news channel is objectionable and does not become as one sided as fox news is towards republicans. I do not want to have a station that is just looking for Jena 6 and Sean Bell Cases. Thankfully they were swift in the punishment of the cops that abused their power.

61.

Adaiyeg

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 /

To all those who are saying, “why did they run.” The police was after them! That is all a black man in America needs. Innocent or not, you always get a beat down or harassed. I don’t agree with any of you who say a black man should stand there and get his ass kicked! Regardless of the situation. Besides, when the police caught them, why not just cuff and carry. Anger has no place in professional law enforcement. Learn to leave your emotions (ignorance) at home or suffer the consequences.

62.

Lady Architect

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 /

I’m glad the officers are being fired and demoted. No matter the crime you are entitled to a fair trial, found guilty or not guilty, in which you are then sentenced. That is the justice system this country was built upon and part of the oath officers take. They beat those guys for personal means and I’m glad the news caught every bit of it. As they were caught those guys were on the ground with handcuffs on so why were officers kicking them and beating them. The sad part is none of those guys shot the officer or the people. As people we are not allowed to take matters into our own hands. Police brutality just shows that if you have some people you don’t like then just go to the academy get a badge and then you can get revenge on anyone and be justified for it. I’m sorry for the officer that lost his life in the line of duty, but that gives officers no right to do what they did. If they are so keen and quick to solve cases, then why is Philly’s crime rate still so high. They should care about all crimes the same length as they care about crimes that happen within their department.

63.

JUDAH

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 /

Let me ask the coon committee a hypothetical question. Have any of you ever seen a society that was crime free? The point of the law is to establish laws, statutes, and penalties for infringing on those laws. If people did not commit crimes, there would not only be no need for a judicial, penal, or law enforcement system, there would be no need for laws. Thusly this nonsense that if black men “didn’t commit crimes”, these beatdowns and shootings wouldn’t occur is just more house ni**er philosophizing. There are thousands of innocent black men in prison that were beaten down and damn near killed in their holding cells by pigs, or had charges added onto the crimes that they were alleged to have done just so they can have some racist bastard judge throw the book at them. I know that for a fact because I know many brothers that have gone through that. Whatever happened to: if the person of people committed a crime, they should be detained by the police until their day in court where they can receive a fair trial?

It amazes me to what end black people will go in their attempts to remove all culpability for a skewed system in their attempts to force this vain unity that they alone want. The issue in the case of the Philadelphia cops is not the crime that was committed, it was the pigs infringing upon the laws that they are supposed to uphold. They as officers are supposed to be held to a higher standard than the average citizen. America is a land that glorifies it’s laws, so if that’s the case, uphold the laws and show that the people that are paid to uphold them have the integrity to uphold them. If they don’t, they should be penalized even harsher than the average citizen so that the citizens can trust the system that is purported to protect their “freedoms”. If America cannot do that, then this is a hypocritical land. This is why the Lord allows black people to constantly be victimized and unfortunately some of the people that make excuses for this system will see their future sons be made victims of this system.

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marc

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 /

@judah you right, there are alot of innocent black men and women in jail that are beaten and killed by the CO’s, but there’s more guilty than are the innocent. It’s a shame that the innocent is in their in the first place but that’s the world we live in. SMH.

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Remi

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 /

I’m very happy that the police officers were fired. To all those people who do not think they should have been fired, we live in America that has judicial system to deal with criminals. A police officer’s job is to protect and serve, which includes arresting potential criminals and suspects. That does not include administering punishment because they feel personally wronged. Vigilante “justice” should never be tolerated, no matter how much anyone disagrees with the judicial system. There is a reason there is a judicial system, and although it is not perfect, we cannot allow police officers or anyone to get away with taking justice into their own hands.

This is the same line of thinking that allows innocent black people to be shot and killed by the police, with no repercussions for the police. Some people think it is wrong simply because the men they beat up are allegedly criminals. However, that is not the issue, the issue is that they did not follow proper procedure and took the law into their own hands. It doesn’t matter how angry they were about another officer being killed that is not the way you arrest anyone. It’s because of police officers like those involved here that Sean Bell is dead today. Although the situations are different, the mindset that led to the incidents is the same, the police feel they can do anything when dealing with a potential suspect, whether the person is legitimately suspected of a crime (the current situation) or not( Sean Bell).

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Mina

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 /

Mannn…my brother lives in Hunting Park and said there never was a drive-by that night, they just used that as an excuse to beat them dudes up becuz the mistook one for the dude that killed the cop a couple of days before, don’t be fooled by the media, if u ask me, them cops need to go to jail, it aint no reason why you should just stomp someone even if they KILLED someone, YOUR job as a POLICE OFFICER is to PROTECT

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oatsuzn

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 /

@ ‘awp3309′ and ‘Who I am’

You could raise your children to do right and they could still be illegally searched, frisked, beat down or shot by the police. You have this premise where you think police brutality victims were all criminal scum and the police are angels. That is the problem with our people today…The UNCLE TOM mentality. I guess you would’ve been one of the house slaves telling the field workers that “if you act good, massa wouldn’t beat you.” LOL shame on you.

Just because you are “doing the right thing” doesn’t mean that you are above or absolved of police harrassment. I’m college educated and make a 6 figure salary but have been pulled over/harassed by the police. The police are the enemy, they’re not here to protect and serve our community! They are here to protect and serve the government’s property! I guess Amadou Diallo, Sean Bell, and Abner Louima DESERVED to be gunned down and sodomized with broom sticks because they weren’t “beat at home”?

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Have Not Thought of a New User Name

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 /

I am a Radio/Television Broadcast major ( I graduate in the fall) so I am excited about the Black News Channel (I need a job when I graduate) lol.

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Shag

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 /

I’ve been a bodybuilder for 35 years and have been around gyms long enough to know, that there are alot of cops using steroids. Random testing amongst cops for steroids should be mandatory. Steroids does serious damage to the mind, emotios and body.

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awp3309

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 /

oatsuzn @66

I do not have the Uncle Tom mentality. For you to use a slave reference in reference to my opinion is just what alot of our people does–if you are against the majority, then you are an Uncle Tom. Talk about the crab in a barrel mentality. It is a shame that we as blacks can not have an intelligent conversation without bringing the slave mentality argument in. Please think about people who have paved the way for us as blacks to be successful. They endured police brutality because they wanted the civil rights so that we could live the way we want. These guys were beat down because they were involved in illegal activity.

I never ever said that what the police did was right, they should be severely disciplined. What I stated was that if you put yourself in a situation and it goes badly do not be surprised with the end result. For every action there is a reaction. First the guys were doing illegal activity - First action. Cops were chasing them and beat them down - reaction. Parents of these guys are on TV screaming how it is unfair for their child to have been beat. When you decide to conduct yourself in a certain manner, you should take into consideration all repercussions. These three men were conducting illegal activity by way of being involved in a shooting and then were involved in a police chase. The situation handled by the cops were wrong–bottom line, but everyone is taking the side of the ‘victims’. How about the fact that people like them are responsible for causing trouble for people who are just trying to live in their neighborhoods. Because of people like them my children can not play outside without the threat of being near or hearing shots. I for one am tired of hearing shots and hearing about people getting hurt–that is why my family and I are leaving this city. I need a safe place where I can raise my children. BTW, if my children were involved in something like this with the police, I would be upset, but the first question that I would ask, what happened that the police chased and beat you down in the first place. Perhaps everyone needs to ask themselves that question. That is not to say that they can not be illegally searched or harrassed by the police. But people like these guys make life very difficult to live in peace. If anyone in the neighborhood attempts to tell the police anything they are labeled a snitch. People wake up, telling the police will make like better for everyone. Of course no one will snitch on the guys who are ‘victims’ because the cops are involved and they were hurt. , Bottom line - the cops are wrong but so were the guys who were beat down–please remember that. I will tell you something that I tell my clients–how you are perceived is how you are going to be treated.

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AWJ12687

Thursday, May 22, 2008 /

@ 70 How many times does it have to be stated they were not involved to you. Your not taking the full story in to consideration. Your basically saying that regardless of the other newer report they did what was said of them. Which is why the whole slave theory was brought up. Before you go and support an action which you are you should know every aspect which you clearly don’t. Even if they had involvement which they did not thats not how you handle it. Therefore we side with the victims had they just been arrested it would be a different story. I can’t side with the police after that display it would be very ignorant for me to do such a thing. If they were involved they were wrong but the repercussions they were served are unjustifiable. As far as the snitch concept I mean you don’t understand the consequences a snitch has to face. Would you rather be silent or die in a hail of gunfire for opening your mouth. I for one am gonna hush because I’m not willing to risk my life. Some cases are not like that and people just choose not to talk. Which again leads back to the police people in our community don’t want to talk to them because of past experiences. Police do very unjust things to innocent black people all the time in the past, present, and future as well as guilty. Don’t think those numbers are small either there not but we will never have them. Your last statement just solidified my point if you look like a hoodlum thats how you will be treated. So don’t walk around in a hoodie, baggy jeans, and boots because you are already a suspect. Which is the problem so many blacks have with the Police Departments around the US.

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awp3309

Thursday, May 22, 2008 /

@71

How in the world can anyone expect anything to get better? No one wants to die. My grandmother has a saying, “Only a fool wants to die”. That is the problem, people will complain about a problem but will do nothing about it. If the people who start this trouble are so big and “gangsta” as they call it, why run? If you are that bad, then you should not be scared of anyone not even the police. If they are as bad as they say they are, they should not worry about getting into trouble because they can handle it.

I may not have the whole story, but only the people who were involved know the whole story–that would be the police involved and the ‘victims’. The family members may not have the whole story because they will only hear one side. I am sure they are telling their family that, they were not involved. I still say that how you are perceived is how you will be treated. For my job, I am supposed to help welfare to work persons seek and maintain employment. You would not believe the number of people who can not get or maintain employment due to their appearance. That is why I said how you are perceived is how you will be treated. No company wants to hire a person with 4 different colors of hair and have all of their body parts hanging out, or will baggy pants showing their draws. Instead of trying to better themselves, they would rather live on the 66 dollars they get every two weeks from welfare and get their food stamps.

As far as police mistreating black people–I know this. I live in North Philadelphia and I know all too well how the police mistreat people in this neighborhood. Although I know that you could be walking down the street and the police will harrass you, hanging out on the corner or in front of a store where the people know where there is illegal activiity only draws attention to yourself.

Again, if you don’t put yourself into certain situations then certain things will not happen to you. I am not counting the people who are unjustly picked on and harrassed by the police. I am talking about those who intentionally set out to do harm to others by way of selling drugs or shooting at someone.

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JUDAH

Thursday, May 22, 2008 /

@72

Your beef seems to be with a certain segment of black people, not this particular case because you’re obviously speaking from a standpoint of ignorance. It is true that black people have become complacent in this society and it has grossly affected their conduct and mental outlook for the worse, but it is biblical prophecy and beyond that, it’s a result of putting their faith in this society.

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AWJ12687

Thursday, May 22, 2008 /

@72 I can fully understand your standpoint. At the same time it seems your kind of one-sided. From what I gathered it sounds as if everyone should live under some unwritten law/rule of not being an individual. I mean the way a person carries themselves is their decision. It’s a shame society is so judgmental that alone can label them. It all boils down to society I suppose it’s America so things aren’t going to change. Blacks will always be blacks and thats how the world turns same for any other race. Police will alwayz be police they are going to harass even without probable cause it seems as if forever. Personally I don’t think anyone should have to comply to society’s standards which is another problem in our community. I mean to be quite honest I enjoy my baggy jeans and I don’t think I should change my appearance for society. I am an individual judgment shouldn’t be passed unless someone gets to know me yet that rarely is the case. I also can see your point when it comes to the certain place scenarios. Then again that is another form of harassment and being overly judgmental. The points of view could go on and on. We as a community should stick together not degrade one another. Though I do agree some of our people do things demeaning to our communities we should not be categorized something we are all to often. The majority of serial killers are white males between the ages of 30-50 but society won’t categorize them. Yet a number of black males slang on the streets and suddenly all black males sell dope on corners. It’s the harsh reality of America the land of the free indeed.

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awp3309

Thursday, May 22, 2008 /

@74

Thank you for your intelligent comment without bringing in arguments that have nothing to do with the subject matter. I also thank you for taking the time to try and understand what I was trying to say. Imagine if people actually took the time to try and understand what other people were trying to say all the time instead of jumping to conclusions when someone has a difference of opinion.

@73

I imagine that everyone who has had a comment is speaking from ignorance meaning that they really are not fully in the know as to what has happened. Honestlyl we all have had to go by what is written by the media. Even the guys’ family members are somewhat ignorant as to what fully happened before the beating. I honestly hope everything works out for them in that they not necessarily “get off” from their charges–but that they learn their lesson and do something constructive and worthwhile with their lives. I would love for them to think about this question:

WHEN YOU DIE, ON YOUR HEADSTONE YOU WILL HAVE THE DATE YOUR WERE BORN, THEN A DASH, THEN THE DATE YOU DIED. WHAT DO YOU WANT YOUR DASH TO STAND FOR?

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times3fam

Saturday, May 24, 2008 /

I’m glad the officers were fired, but how is it that they get this type of punishment and the officers who killed Sean Bell get nothing?