On Friday, Sen. Hillary Clinton explained to the editorial board of South Dakota’s Sioux Falls Argus-Leader why she remains in the race for the Democratic nomination: “My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don’t understand it.”
The New York Times called it one of Clinton’s worst days. Bill Burton, campaign spokesman for Sen. Barack Obama, said “Senator Clinton’s statement before the Argus Leader editorial board was unfortunate and has no place in this campaign.”
The Clinton campaign countered that “she was simply referencing her husband in 1992 and Bobby Kennedy in 1968 as historic examples of the nominating process going well into the summer. Any reading into beyond that would be inaccurate and outrageous.”
Clinton also issued the following, a departure from her campaign’s initial response:
“Earlier today I was discussing the Democratic primary history and in the course of that discussion mentioned the campaigns that both my husband and Senator Kennedy waged in California in June 1992 and 1968 and I was referencing those to make the point that we have had nomination primary contests that go into June. That’s a historic fact.
The Kennedys have been much on my mind the last days because of Senator Kennedy and I regret that if my referencing that moment of trauma for our entire nation, and particularly for the Kennedy family was in any way offensive. I certainly had no intention of that, whatsoever. My view is that we have to look to the past and to our leaders who have inspired us and give us a lot to live up to, and I’m honored to hold Senator Kennedy’s seat in the United States Senate from the state of New York and have the highest regard for the entire Kennedy family.”
Regarding what they call Clinton’s “inexcusable outburst,” the New York Times editorial board said “she could, at least, have apologized. Instead, she issued one of those tedious non-apology apologies in which it sounds like the person who is being offended is somehow at fault: ‘I regret that if my referencing that moment of trauma for our entire nation, and particularly for the Kennedy family was in any way offensive.’”
What are your thoughts?
Hillary really needs to get out the race before she ruins her name.
I also watched Obama speech he gave in the place of Mr. Kennedy it was truly inspiring.
well what does that hve to do with it….and what abt him (OBAMA) and ana asassination?
who cares!! LOL………BROS OVERS HOES!!!
She is still showing her true colors. She is a liar. Bill Clinton had won in April of 1992. He had 3 times as many delegates as the nearest comeptitor in April there was no doubt who was going to win the nomination in April. Again, she pretends that Bobby Kennedy had been running this long drawn out campaign and then was assassinated in June when in fact he had only been running for 6 weeks when he was shot. I think she is only capable of telling lies and giving half-azz apologies. She says she doesn’t owe Obamaa an apology because she wasn’t talking about him. Sometimes it is the appearance of wrongdoing that does the harm. I personally have lost all respect for her.
A total bullshit apology to me. She should have just said that Kennedy won the California nomination in June…or maybe she should have just stopped after Bill.
But she wants this thing too damn much and her true colors are showing. I was on the fence before, but it looks like Obama will be the lesser of two evils.
She knew what she was trying to do. Hilary is so evil.
Haha, it’s typical Hilary trying to get a sympathetic vote but it back fired. No ones falling for the games any more. We see right through you.
And it took a BOLD New York times editor to defame you.
Now that Hilary is in desperate times, She wants a VP. She’s a BS Liar. Well, once she starts packing, she’ll definitely need to prepare herself for those court cases.
Good luck Hilary.
It was so nice to see Keith Olbermann rip her a new one: http://the9elements.blogs...s-in-hilary-over-rfk.html
Go Obama!!!
Hillary is so different from her husband.
REGISTER TO VOTE!!!
I MG I think the point of the of the comment was that it contest goes into the mid summer and if there were a chance for her to still pull it off why not try. You have to remember that the war its self in the 90′s was not unpopular as much as Bush policies. If it were Obama I would hope that his supporters would do the samething if he were in her shoes. That is the purpose of the contest. I think Hillary and Berry Obama are full of shit but hey people like them. There are people that are so dependant on the government that the think that more government is just what we need. You have to give it to her though, she not afraid to say whats on her mind. You got to respect that.
Hillary Clinton may not be the most admirable candidate at this moment in time, but she still has over one million supporters. And I believe she’s choosing to continue for them; as not to slap them in the face by just quitting and dropping out.
She’s putting her hope in psychology, not in math. Numerically, she has no chance in winning, but by the primaries, it’s very possible that she might bring up the fact that she’s won a lot of the big, key states that it would take to win the general election – buying her a few more superdelegates.
But if it’s meant for Senator Obama to win, he will. Whether or not it’s this summer or fall.
I don’t get what Kennedy has to do with anything???
Well, seeing as how I just convinced my friend to switch her vote yesterday from Hillary to Obama, this is just fodder for me, but in all honesty. I can see where she was going with her comments, but they were SO innapropriate and so borderline disrespectful, she had to have known the minute the words left her mouth it wasn’t going to be perceived correctly.
Don’t expect her giving up anytime soon,at this point the ONLY reason why she is still in the race is to get out of the red.20+ million in the red,and as long as she is in the race she can raise funds.The minute she gives up,she will have to come out of her own pocket to pay what she owes,but she did it to herself.WE will obliterate Iran,is what made me think this chick is out of her effing mind.
This bitch gone crazy… for her to make reference to an assasination at a time like this is basically her calling for a hit on Obama. She’s already come right out and asked for the white vote and now this. If anything happens to Obama she should be bitch slapped by Michelle Obama for trying to plant that seed in the hate filled minds of racist murderers (which we know are still alive and kicking). This is an all time low for Hillary. She’s one desperate hater and she will be a danger to the world if she is elected. This type of impulsive, hate mongering thinking has no business leading the greatest nation on earth … if you believe the hype!
Hillary’s comment could be taken either way–but I think the larger issue is that the woman is so completely inappropriate in the statements that she makes. She repeatedly shows a lack of wisdom and quite frankly a lack of intelligence.
She laughs inappropriately, she makes “sideways” remarks and tries to explain them away, she OUTRIGHT LIES (about being under fire in Bosnia) and then brushes it off like we didn’t all hear the lie.
She is also lying when she says “my opponent and his camp” are trying to push her out of the race. His camp has repeatedly said she should stay in.
To top it all off, she has never, in all of the years she has been in and around politics, through the scandals of her husband’s presidency, her own scandals regarding the real estate deals and refusing to release her records and then lying saying she didn’t have them when they were sitting in her house, her lies about the sniper fire and this latest “slip” she has NEVER sincerely apologized for anything and so on top of her being a horrid LIAR, she doesn’t believe she is ever wrong.
She would be a worse nightmare than George Bush–who also, coincidentally, believes that the rules everyone else lives by do not apply to him.
She is George Bush as a woman….Slow..Inappropriate…constantly saying something stupid…refusing to follow the party rules….a liar…and lacks character.
I have always voted democratic but I swear that if she is the nominee I will vote for McCain.
Seems we’re falling into the trap of defending everything Obama does and criticizing everything anyone else does/says.
I understood what she meant; although it made my eyebrow raise… but more importantly, it was said in March and no one gave a fug.
So to be all upset now strikes of selective rage and opportunism.
did you hear about the liz trotta incident, though
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I don’t get what Kennedy has to do with anything???
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The implication regarding Robert Kennedy’s assassination in June is that she remains in the race because something could happen to Obama [assassination] and
she would be the Democratic nominee.
@Lollypop
you hit the nail on the head. whether she meant it that way or not, she was channeling bobby kennedy’s assassination and planting the seed for obama to get assassinated. she puts her foot in her mouth at every turn and it shows that experience doesn’t make up for tact.
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First off, this is NOT a big deal. Second, I don’t think she was implying anything about Obama being assassinated! She was citing campaigns of two people that lasted into June. Ok fine, no big deal. BUT she didn’t have to say Kennedy was assassinated, she should have just mentioned their names and kept it moving.
I’m not going to get on the bad wagon to demonize her…because as you all will see the same thing will happen with Obama once he’s officially campaigning with McCain. We’ve got to make our own decisions and not let the media decide what we should be outraged about. The comment about Kennedy is the least of my concerns. It is as trivial as the comment that Obama said that upset working class white people.
Hillary just needs to stop with her antics.
Obama’s speech at the graduation ceremony was good.
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT #21!
She mentioned the bobby kennedy assassination in an a way to insinuate that “hey, you never know, Bobby got killed in June, it could happen again… hint, hint”. Obama has already received many death threats and history teaches us that there are enough racist lunatics out there who will run with that idea (MLK, JFK, Bobby, Lincoln etc).
Also, she’s repeated these comments more than once, not just once in March. Mentioning Kennedy’s assassination and the primary competition against Obama in the same sentence is outta line! This June will mark the 40th anniversary of Bobby’s death, btw.)
IT’S a HUGE deal and everyone with an understanding of how real a possibility of an assassination of an inspiring leader is, should rightfully be OUTRAGED. She KNEW what she was doing.
J. DAKAR WHY DON’T YOU MAKE A POST ABOUT HILLARY’S RESPONSE AS TO WHY SHE WON’T DROP OUT FROM THE NEW YORK DAILY NEWS.
WHY I CONTINUE TO RUN : http://www.nydailynews.co...hy_i_continue_to_run.html
PEOLE ACCUSING HILLARY OF SAYING SHE WANTED TO SEE OBAMA KNOCKED OFF ARE ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS.
YOU ALL BETTER GET USE TO HILLARY BECAUSE U KNOW THAT IF SHE WANTS VP SHE HAS IT RIGHT? SHE’S LEADING IN NUMBER OF VOTES CAST FOR HER. THE REASON OBAMA IS SO FAR AHEAD IS BECAUSE THE VOTERS OF FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN ARE BEING DISENFRANCHISED. THEY CAME OUT IN RECORD NUMBERS BUT THEIR VOTES DO NOT COUNT BECAUSE OF SOME STUPID DNC RULE ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT MOVING UP THEIR PRIMARY. I JUST WATCHED RECOUNT ON HBO AND MANY OF THE OBAMA PEOPLE SOUND LIKE THE BUS PEOPLE: “STOP THE RECOUNT!! WE NEED TO FOLLOW THE RULES!! THEIR VOTES SHOULDN’T COUNT!”
Anyone within the sound of Hillary’s voice knew exactly what she meant except for Hillary and her supporters. I wonder what flavor of Kool-Aid they are drinking?
Whether people like the DNC rules or not, Michigan and Florida did not following them. Whose fault is that? Hillary originally agreed that they shouldn’t be counted, but now since she’s behind she wants to flip the script.
NOW THEY ARE BLAMING OBAMAS CAMP FOR TAKING HILLARYS STATMENT OUT OF CONTEXT…..POLITICIANS NEVER MEAN WHAT THEY SAY BUT THEY SAY WHAT THEY MEAN……………………ALWAYS BLAME THEY VICTIM!!!
MY GOODNESS!
Yes, lets be honest. a woman with obama’s experience could never be considered for the title of president.
its really sad. if obama’s the nominee I may as well write in george mcgovern because thats what it will essentially be.
If hillary is winning swing states and is ahead in the popular vote and polls against mccain in ohio, florida, west virginia, arkansas.
obama is winning in the great democratic states of UTAH, NEBRASKA AND MISSISSIPPI. His entire delegate lead is from caucuses that no one attends but democratic activists who like Obama, and which had a 3% turnout.
obama is tied. TIED. in massachussetts because their first black governor, who talked a lot about “change, inspiration and hope” (and was managed by the same people, thats why many of their lines are the same) IS A DISASTER!!!!!! the people of massachusetts know better than to fall for “hope and change” talk again. can you imagine a democrat losing massachusets? well, it can happen with obama.
after all the hate thats been spewed at hillary, if obama does get the nomination, it will be enjoyable for many clinton supporters to watch him squirm under the heat. Please. If you think hillary was bad, YOU AINT SEEN NOTHIN YET! At least hiillary knew just how to fight dirty against the republicans. Barack “hope and change” Obama is “above” dirty politics, right?
http://www.electoral-vote...8/Clinton/Maps/May26.html
http://www.electoral-vote...008/Obama/Maps/May26.html
ON TO THE CONVENTION!!!!!
@28, the people of florida and michigan didn’t vote to have their primary moved up. the legislators did. in florida’s case, it was the republicans who did it! now, just like in 2000 with bush folks, obama folks do not want their voices to have the say it should. thats why his lawyers quietly killed an offered revote that was offered to be paid for in the states because he thought he would lose.
@31>>>I don’t know who is going to win the presidency in November; however, I can say that no matter what anyone says, Hillary supporters sound so bitter and have to blame everyone for Hillary’s demise. Yes, I said demise. Hillary is to blame for the b.s. that comes out of her mouth and those that follow her will “yes” and “amen” everything she says and does. I don’t know whether or not Obama will get the presidency in November 2008, but all I can say is that another 4 years of McCain is another 4 years of Bush and it would be a disaster. If Hillary supporters are so bitter as to not vote democratically, then I hope they shut the hell up when McCain is elected. Enough said.
***correction: “if McCain is elected***
Obviously she was signaling for the KKK to assassinate Barack Obama. It all falls into place; she’s saying that since RFK was assassinated in June, we’re going to assassinate Barack, therefore like her husband(who won in late June) leading her into the Democratic nomination due to death of the other component. See how both scenarios hooks together?? Come on people we all know those Shady KLANtons are apart of the Triple K.
Hilary just sit down and shut up
I was in shock when I heard this! Chick is MENTAL!!!!
@32, maybe we are bitter because the media has made nothing but sexist comments about hillary since january and earlier but there has been absolute SILENCE about it:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kcdnlNZg2iM
tell me: how many stories did you see about people interrupting hillary rallies with men screaming “iron my shirt.” now tell me how many stories you would hve seen of whites screaming at obama “shine my shoes” repeatedly. It would be everywhere. tell me why its ok to say on a news station ‘obama did well because of black history month, and hillary did well because its bitch month’ and there not be total outrage? I will tell u why. because sexism is a-ok in our culture.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eseoMOEaFnM
also, how are you going to get mad at hillary supporters for not supporting your candidate when obama supporters have called hillary every name in the book; everything from a racist kkk member to a bitch, a cunt, and all the other names. yup, hillary supporters are ok with that. we will come crawling back and fall in line with our nominee!!!
CNN CONTRIBUTOR CALLS HILLARY A WHITE BITCH
http://youtube.com/watch?v=suQ9AZD1OkU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSLiEp5mqzg ‘misogyny and the media’
Ms. Dynomite, it goes both ways. Hillary is not a victim. If you feel the media has been unfair, contact them; let your voice be heard. Hillary supporters have selective vision and hearing. You see only “offenses” against her, but will never admit that Obama has been viciously attacked because of his color alone, and may I add, Rev. Wright. They are still commenting on that (Faux News). Also, did you hear what Liz Trotta from Faux News said about Obama? Number 9 posted the “youtube” link.
Also, may I add, his campaign workers were harassed and called ugly names by Hillary supporters. Many of her supporters have come out and said they will NOT vote for Obama because he is black. Hillary supporters have not called Obama supporters name, Ms. Dynomite? Please, if you will, frequent some other blogs and read what Hillary supporters have said. There are good and bad in both sides, but I’m sorry, I don’t care what you say, HILLARY IS NOT A VICTIM. There’s no conspiracy against her. She’s just reaping the fruits because she can’t keep her mouth shut. Anyway, this split in the Democratic party isn’t getting us anywhere.
Oh, another thing: Why when the race first started were black people in Hillary’s court? Obama didn’t start off with the lead. It’s because Hillary kept “mis-speaking” and putting her foot in her mouth. Some people see her for what she is. You have your opinion, and I have mine, and apparently we are both sticking to it.
Have a nice Memorial Day everyone.
Hillary better mind. She is sure to reap what she sows
When I seen this on Friday I almost lost it. First, Bill Clinton had the democrat nomination in April him wining California in June of 92′ didn’t even matter because he had three times as many delegates as his oponent. Second, she clearly suggested that Barack Obama could be assinated. Third, she didn’t even apologize to him.
i doubt this is what she meant, but it came off like she obama could get assasinated. does she know something we dont know… im just saying, be careful with how you word your words, ms. hiliary
Hillary just keep showing her true colors. Its funny that concreteloop is the first time I’ve heard about this. But Obama calling some reporter, “sweetie” is still being rotated in the news.
It was a mistake, that I highly doubt she meant anything by. Damn, I don’t even want her to win, but I want her to lose based on real factors, not that people are tripping of a dum statement.
thank you 46! people will say anything to disparage hillary’s name!!!!!
this is my first time hearing of this…talk about puttin a foot in the mouth…she shoved her whole leg in….
@ MS DYNOMITE:
Seriously, do you have some sort of mental imbalance?
I personally think this was a bad case of verbal diarrhea, which she seems to have a real problem with lately. Anyway Keith Olbermann MURDERED her on national t.v., I was dyin when I saw it. She’s done for and if I were Obama I would be terrified to have her as a VP making all these wreckless ass statements. She doesn’t think before she speaks. I think all the candidates are full of it but this woman is well on her way to becoming the next Bush talkin about “obliterating” Iran…yet she wants to withdraw troops from Iraq. hmmm. She’s clearly delusional…and a megalomaniac.
And MS. DYNOMITE you’re going mad hard right now. woosaa.
The bulk of what needs to be said has been said. I am an Obama supporter at the moment but at the beginning either one of them was fair game. It was as the primary season unveiled itself that I became uneasy with the demeanor of Hilary. Even though we are blithely aware of the incessant lies politicians tell and the “do whatever it takes to get ahead” tactics, Hilary adds new meaning to those terms. She has single handedly divided a party has been anticipating a change from 8 long and painful years of Republican nuances. And if you disagree the democratic takeover of the House proves my point.
It is baffling to me that people cannot see the questionability of her commentary. She claims that the senator has been on her mind lately and that was why she mentioned it. The loop hole with that theory is that the news of the senator only came to light in more recent times and she made this comment first in March. I have to believe that she could have referenced the longevity of the campaigns of both her husband and Bobby, without re-hatching that he was assassinated. The very fact that she can make such a careless comment shows her insensitivity, her lack of tact and quite honestly her intent to win regardless.
As a politician or a supporter of one you need to be able to draw the line at what is appropriate and no matter how blinded you might be as a Hilary supporter it would be nothing short of a shame to not realize that her comments were instigating a repetition of a national atrocity or rather a number of them (JFK ,MLK ,Bobby , the list goes on )
And as for Ms dynomite, yes sexism is a reality and living in our country but racism is also real and alive and has taken center stage in this election with greater consequences than sexism .Thus you and other avid FANS of Hilary can seek another platform to base her losses on.
@51/52>>>cyberclap!!!!! Spoken like a true pro. Kudos to you!
To me this comment merely seems to say…
This is not the first primary to go until June, so why are folks calling for her to quit?
Now maybe the RFK comment could have been saved, but I in no way took her statement to mean that she is expecting the same to happen to Obama.
I love the Kennedy’s but they too are taking this a bit overboard.
I am really getting tired of this entire race, and one reason why I did not put in my bid for candidacy to be selected as a 2008 national delegate. I am really tired of the bullshit…on BOTH sides.
HILLARY SAID THIS SAME THING TO TIME MAGAZINE in March, SO IT IS VERY MUCH ON HER MIND THAT OBAMA MAY BE KILLED
Thanks #53 for your kind words
For #54 with all due respect, until you have lost multiple members of your family to assasination and other sudden deaths either in presidential office or on their way there, it makes no sense for you to say that the Kennedy’s are taking it too far. This is a sore subject for a family that has dealt with death recurringly. I do not think that mentioning the death of Bobby when the Senator is dealing with this health scare was reasonable especially since she claims that they have been on her mind lately.
@49, first of all, if i did are you going to make fun of people with mental imbalances? second, what the hell is wrong with me defending my candidate? oh thats right, no pro hillary comments are allowed on this site without being attacked! That’s a no no. You damn for sure better not make valid points about Hillary in them. You damn for sure better not call out the lies and dirty tactics of the obama campaign. ‘Obama walks on water. His campaign doesn’t use dirty tactics. He is Martin Luther King/RFK/JFK/Ghandi/Mother Theresa/Jesus all rolled into one and will heal the nation. Nothing he’s said that were bad was anything he meant, but Hillary is the devil and will say anything to get elected.’ /obama supporters
@53, at least with racism people recognize it. nobody recognizes sexism or talks about it. its just out there and the media is allowed to say whatever about hillary because nobody has ever cared about it. what racist comments have you heard from supposedly neutral news commentators that no one raised as an issue? no one has addressed the fact really that a strong woman who is tough is going to be called a bitch if she goes on the attack and no man would be…
@57, the kennedy’s accepted hillary’s apology and RFK Jr. even issued a statement saying it was CLEAR that she was talking about length of the campaign and not an assassination…
Ms dynomite clearly you are fixated on your opinions and an openness to discussion is not in your repertoire. You believe sexism trumps over racism which I think is borderline comical seeing as we were not dehumanized off of gender the way individuals have been because of their race. And if you are talking about unspoken aspects of social issues, the racism we experience today is as silent as they come. Corporations and other social entities have mastered a means to propagate racism without violating the laws of the land that have banned racism. So racism is just as silent, even more silent than sexism.
@60, I’m waiting on examples of tv commentators making CLEAR racist comments toward Barack Obama without being called out and using racial language in describing why he is having his shortcomings. If you’ve watched the youtube videos I’ve posted it’s clear the sexist language has been prevalent. I’m waiting.
Sexism and racism should be rejected equally, but they are not in this society, as Hillary said. It is not ok in society be racist. Yes, there is discrimination on the basis of race but there is also discrimination on the basis of gender, and sexism is a part of almost every race. There is sexism in the black community, the white community, the latino community and society as a whole. You can ask many young girls today what they think about being called hos and bitches in music videos and its fine with them.
great article on this topic: Misogyny I Won’t Miss
http://www.washingtonpost...5/14/AR2008051403090.html