On Friday, Sen. Hillary Clinton explained to the editorial board of South Dakota’s Sioux Falls Argus-Leader why she remains in the race for the Democratic nomination: “My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don’t understand it.”
The New York Times called it one of Clinton’s worst days. Bill Burton, campaign spokesman for Sen. Barack Obama, said “Senator Clinton’s statement before the Argus Leader editorial board was unfortunate and has no place in this campaign.”
The Clinton campaign countered that “she was simply referencing her husband in 1992 and Bobby Kennedy in 1968 as historic examples of the nominating process going well into the summer. Any reading into beyond that would be inaccurate and outrageous.”
Clinton also issued the following, a departure from her campaign’s initial response:
“Earlier today I was discussing the Democratic primary history and in the course of that discussion mentioned the campaigns that both my husband and Senator Kennedy waged in California in June 1992 and 1968 and I was referencing those to make the point that we have had nomination primary contests that go into June. That’s a historic fact.
The Kennedys have been much on my mind the last days because of Senator Kennedy and I regret that if my referencing that moment of trauma for our entire nation, and particularly for the Kennedy family was in any way offensive. I certainly had no intention of that, whatsoever. My view is that we have to look to the past and to our leaders who have inspired us and give us a lot to live up to, and I’m honored to hold Senator Kennedy’s seat in the United States Senate from the state of New York and have the highest regard for the entire Kennedy family.”
Regarding what they call Clinton’s “inexcusable outburst,” the New York Times editorial board said “she could, at least, have apologized. Instead, she issued one of those tedious non-apology apologies in which it sounds like the person who is being offended is somehow at fault: ‘I regret that if my referencing that moment of trauma for our entire nation, and particularly for the Kennedy family was in any way offensive.’”
What are your thoughts?
urban chic I could not have said it better myself. There is no doubt that this race is racially polarized but for different reasons. Most blacks who are Obama supporters have flocked his way because he is the candidate that has shown the most concern and understanding for minority issues, understanding being the all important word. On the other hand, the working class, non-college educated white voterswho have refused to vote for Obama have done so not because of their fear of his lack of expertise but mostly because of their lack of openness to change. Case in point, the interviews from West Virginia and Kentucky post their primaries show the close minded nature of some of these individuals and their unwillingness to vote for a Black man.
Ms Dynomite as I said yesteday you represent the very ideology of an unwillingness to accept change or at the least be open to a discussion. You are fixated on your unilateral views than sexism is a bigger atrocity than racism and such delusional views cannot be sorted out by a board discussion. At the least they prove why you are a Hilary supporter,since she is prone to delusional thinking herself.
Robert Kennedy = Obama Hubert Humphrey= Clinton I think she knew what she meant, if Obama is assasinated then she gets the nomination. I don’t care how they want to spin this, (“out of context” yeah right!) she knew what she was saying, if not she wouldv’e chosen her words carefully, assassination didn’t even have to be in the sentence and she couldv’e ended the comparison with her husband… DROP OUT CLINTON for the sake of whatever is left your legacy and the party!
@122 what are u talking about? I’ve been told that I’m a stupid bitch, a cunt, I should go have bastard children, simply for stating that this campaign has had sexist language throughout it and that Hillary Clinton has been demonized as something she is not. And I AM THE ONE NOT CAPABLE OF MAKING A RATIONAL DISCUSSION????? riiiiiight.
all we ever talk about is the race issue on here and in the media. I’m trying to open a discussion on the sexism of this campaign and everyone accuses me of hating men. If you talk about it at all you’re demonized, as I have been. I’ve BEEN open to a discussion…a discussion that doesn’t include why I’m a man hater and a cunt, and should go have bastard children. How childish is that? You can say I’m fixated on sexism just like I can say many of you are obviously unwilling to have an open discussion on the sexism in this campaign and why it matters for women of EVERY COLOR and ethnicity, black, white and LATINA
. You can only fixate on racism. Like I said, race is a factor everyone has talked about over and over and its an important topic. I wish that people would at least be open to a female talking about the sexist language that has been used against Hillary without the female being a cunt.
@Dynamite,
We can end this debate right now. Can you prove 100% that blacks only voted for Obama because he is black? If not, your point is no longer valid and has no bearings on him becoming the presumptive nominee soon. So please, with your negativity, give it a break!!!
@Ms Dynomite,
I never said you were white.
I’m called a cunt and a bitch and you have the audacity to call ME negative. Please.
No one can prove the intention of those voting for one candidate, just liek you can’t prove that the voters who were white voted overwhelmingly for Hillary in kentucky and west virginia because they were racist, which a hell of a lot of people here seemed to assume. But you cant deny there is a component in almost all blacks voting for obama who is black. one group of people voting for a person who is their race almost unanimously has NO RACIAL COMPONENT? I’m sorry, I don’t believe it. And i’m not even saying there’s nothing wrong with it. Mitt Romney won 95% of the vote in Utah because he was mormon, though the exit polls said his religion didn’t matter. John Kennedy won the Catholic vote overwhelmingly being the first Catholic. So I think it’s pretty obvious, and like i said, there really isn’t anything wrong with it.
what i don’t understand is this complete hatred of anyone who dares bring up sexism in this race. I’m still having trouble understanding why it’s so hard to talk about without being called a bitch/cunt/ho. Why can’t we talk about sexism without even bringing up race, and why one group has it worse than another? I’m just wondering why that is…
*im not even say there’s something wrong with it.
SINCE MR. SHAWN08 FAILED TO ANSWER MY QUESTION CAN SOMEBODY ANSWER IT FOR ME. (THIS IS NOT ABOUT RACISM OR BEING A SEXEST AT ALL) WHO WOULD BE BETTER IN THE WHITE HOUSE OBAMA or HILARY CLINTON “AND” OUR FORMER PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON?
I ONCE AGAIN REST MY CASE. LOL
@ 22
You’re on point!! I agree with everything you said!!
@ Ms Dynomite
Thank you!! Racism and Sexism are equally offensive, but people do not treat them as such! You can’t say anything that could be interpreted in any way, shape, or form as racist without being castrated (as it should be), but when it comes to sexism nobody even says anything, and it’s practically accepted!? Thank you for backing up your argument with actual news clips and stories!! I’m sure all the people responding and calling you crazy are either sexist men or women who sadly don’t mind being called a ho and bitch!!
And when I mean abortion, I forgot to add the for/against…I am not advocating or contesting abortion
Ms Dynomite,
There have been several media reporters who have said disparaging remarks against Obama because he was African American. One only needs to flip to Faux news aka. Fox news. However, their remarks were subtle, cheap but hidden. (I hope this answer your question). From the coverage I’ve seen, they seem to support Hillary. Bare in mind that Fox news catters to those “bitter white folks” Obama’s been talking about.
There’s a clear difference between women and African Americans: racial tone is one of them but another is….brace yourself and read this carefully…PC police (that is…the POLITICAL “CORRECT” police).
Do you want to know why mainstream media can permit themselves to say sexist remarks? Its because women do not help themselves either. If any media figure publicly denigrated African Americans…they would lose their jobs…literally. This has yet to happen to women. Women have not banded together to fight since the 1960s. The 1960’s have passed…there are other realities that women must face; but if they cannot band together than what is the use? Women should be standing together in rows against abortion. If women banded together, there should not be any video hoes, possibly prostitution. With other races, including your own, a hit to one is a hit to the other.
CL made me cut my long post short…Sorry if this was too long, I just had to express myself
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@131 so glad you can see now!!
@133, this is a problem that really needs to be talked about I believe. I think women as a whole, black women included, would benefit greatly from seeing a woman being the President. Little girls everywhere of every color would look at Hillary and say “you know what, I don’t have to shake my ass for a camera. I can be intelligent, I can be strong and I can be anything I want to be.” I think women of all races should stand together because sexism is thrown at all women of all colors, just as all minorities face discrimination.
someone said obama will be better on minority issues. I disagree. Just because he is a minority doesn’t mean he will be better on those issues. Because he is black, I think he may feel LESS pressure to address minority issues. It’s just like Obama not wanting to go to the black american summit while hillary did, or go to the MLK celebration in tennesse while hillary and even mccain did. The truth is, he doesnt want to be identified too closely with being the “black people’s candidate” and I believe will go out of his way to not address minority issues too much. However, it appears african americans are ok with that. Hillary on the other hand has always shown that she has a committment to minority issues.
Hillary has always been good on women’s issues and black and latina women’s issues. It was Hillary Clinton, NOT Barack Obama, who said at a debate on black women and aids, “If AIDS were the number one cause of death among young white women in this country, their would be a national outrage.”
And you have served to prove the point that several of us have been trying to show to you by citing Hilary Clintons comment on AIDS Ms Dynomite. You have slowly but surely shown that race issues in AMERICA trump gender issues. Hilary’s statement shows that if white women were dying of aids as a nation we would have paid more attention but since it is an epidemic differentially affecting the American people with the main adverse effects on the black community particularly the black woman, we as a nation have responded less vigorously
But at least you are admitting hillary “demon-spawn, satan-worshipping, racist white bitch, kkk member” clinton said this.
yes, it is true. minorities get the short end of the stick. But can we finally admit that women (black women, latina women, white women) in society are degraded too, as we have seen just by me talking about sexism, im a cunt.
I have yet to hear why there is never any outrage about the sexism in the campaign. Black women latina and white women should be equally offended by it. And it doesn’t have to be compared with how bad africn american have it either. Lets as women discuss why its ok for us to be called bitches, and even a former first lady and respected senator can be called that on tv and no outrage at all.
All I can say is that my mother raised me to be a strong and beautiful boricua female and I do not apologize for speaking about the double standard in the media when it comes to how someone looks, someone sounds, someone laughs, someone’s wrinkles, and how someone simply looks at her competitor, all of which have been discussed in regard to hillary clinton.
Who cares what this retarded mutt ms Dynomite has to say about the opinions and intents of black people? You have all this hatred for men and despise for blacks and you’re still obsessed with a site geared toward them. If you don’t like how people feel around here, you’re always welcome to jump off a cliff and die. I’m sure the white asses to stay kissing will scoop your fat ass up.
*the white asses you stay kissing.
Ms.Dynomite & Judah=SELF HATE!
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@138 LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tell me how I despise men.
and who the hell are u to tell me a mutt? what if i called you the n word? would that be ok.
if you can’t handle other opinions stop reading the comments, dumbass.
@140, I don’t hate myself, I love myself. Why shouldn’t I, I’m a strong and gorgeous puerto rican female who is independent. “call me whatever cause your words don’t mean a thing because you ain’t even a man enough to even handle what i say.”
Hillary 08!!!!!!
oh and i despise men, you all who say anything about racism hate white people by that logic, right?
Here are the facts, Dynomite Dunce
(1) Your father probably left your mother
(2) You were probably shit on by a series of men
(3) You are obviously either not black, or you have a fucked up self image anyhow
(4) You are obviously none too bright, seeing how everyone has massacred your “logic” on this thread
The big question is, why do you think anyone gives a damn what your deserted, attention-seeking, ugly, mutt, massa worshiping, dumb ass has to say anyhow?
Oh I just read your little confessional lol
The mysterious ms. dynomite is a latina…. big fucking surprise you’re conveniently unaffected by wanton racial hatred towards black men. Listen dummy, it was pretty obvious to anyone with half a brain that you are not black.
I guess it’s ok for you and your brood to come here riding on the efforts of generations of true Americans and civil rights activists while perpetuating racial hatred towards blacks and romanticizing whitey all day. Remember who it was that was using your shitty Island to test nuclear ammunition. See, unlike you, I will never tolerate hatred towards my people at the expense of politics, bullshit feminist agenda, or your pathetic drool for assimilation into the white status quo. We don’t share the same history, and I will be damned if I have the time to entertain “logic” from some brazen half-wit that we only adopted yesterday.
Of course the big joke is that for someone who hates blacks, you’re pretty obsessed with our culture. Now go ahead and sit your genetically shortchanged ass somewhere puta. Until you earn your stripe on the American flag, you can mamame la puta polla.
You’re dismissed. Dumb fucking cunt.
CL cut me short.
To Ms Dynomite,
What I was trying to say, before I got cut my CL, was that: The realities of an African American woman and a white woman are not the same; therefore, it is completely ridiculous for me to stand behind woman who does not understand my tribulations. I do not understand her tribulations either.
And as people of different races, I think we can all agree that the issues of our races always supercede our own gender issues because we were raised as (latina, black, asian…etc…) first before being a woman.
And another thing,
Lets keep things in greater perspective. Benzanir Bhutto was elected in a middle eastern country which, supposedly, refuses (or never even gave) women rights. Hijab or not she was elected. The philippines’ president is a woman. Liberia’s president is also a woman. Segolene Royal,a woman, nearly won the french presidency.
I personally think that in regards to woman’s issues, we’ve moved a step forward (unlike what you are insinuating). Isn’t Nancy Pelosi the leader of the House….she happends to have a vagina…I have not heard anybody call her a bitch. Whats the difference between these women and Hilary?….CLASS! And they happen to be tough, truthful and persuasive. I don’t think people hate Hilary because she’s a woman…they hate her because she’s Hilary!
This was blown out of context. Hilary is the girl. Love her.
I dont wanna get involved in all that up there ^^.
But I’d like to thank CL for these political posts. It exposes young people to politics, where as other “blog sites” (for lack of a better term) don’t.
@144, 145 you are not on my level intellectually. You don’t deserve to post here, its unfortunate you are someone who takes all their frustrations out on others. *yawn*
anyway…
http://www.houstonpress.c...rack-obama-screamed-at-me
“Obama has spent his entire political career trying to win the next step up. Every three years, he has aspired to a more powerful political position.
He was just 35 when in 1996 he won his first bid for political office. Even many of his staunchest supporters, such as Black, still resent the strong-arm tactics Obama employed to win his seat in the Illinois Legislature.
Obama hired fellow Harvard Law alum and election law expert Thomas Johnson to challenge the nominating petitions of four other candidates, including the popular incumbent, Alice Palmer, a liberal activist who had held the seat for several years, according to an April 2007 Chicago Tribune report.
Obama found enough flaws in the petition sheets — to appear on the ballot, candidates needed 757 signatures from registered voters living within the district — to knock off all the other Democratic contenders. He won the seat unopposed.
“A close examination of Obama’s first campaign clouds the image he has cultivated throughout his political career,” wrote Tribune political reporters David Jackson and Ray Long. “The man now running for president on a message of giving a voice to the voiceless first entered public office not by leveling the playing field, but by clearing it.”"
Not a typical politician? LOL!
Hilary is a mess I’m glad she lost cause she is getting on my nerves…..she kept downing obama and trying to make him look bad now she just making herself look stupid