NEWS: NAS TO to deliver petitions to Fox News / CITIES CRACK DOWN ON SAGGING / JONES ASK FOR COMMUTED SENTENCE
Tuesday, July 22, 2008
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Nas will join members of ColorOfChange.org & MoveOn.org on Wednesday to deliver 620,127 petition signatures demanding that FOX end its pattern of racist attacks against Black Americans including presidential candidate Barack Obama and his wife Michelle. The group will make the delivery Wednesday, July 23rd at FOX in Manhattan.
Over the last several weeks, FOX has had a string of incidents that many believe are a veiled attempt to prey on racism and intolerance and cast the Obamas as “outsiders”: an on-screen graphic referred to Mrs. Obama as “Obama’s baby mama,” a pundit “confused” Obama with Osama and then joked they should both be assassinated, and an anchor called a loving fist bump between Barack and Michelle a “terrorist fist jab.” In February, Bill O’Reilly talked about calling a “lynching party” to deal with Michelle.
Nas recently released a single and accompanying video entitled, “Sly Fox” to bring light to Fox’s unprofessional antics.
CITIES CRACK DOWN ON SAGGING

Various cities across the United States have been cracking down on youngsters who like to wear saggy pants.
Eugene Williams is the mayor of Lynwood (in South Chicago), says young men walk around town half-dressed, keeping major retailers and economic development away. He calls the new law a hot topic. The American Civil Liberties Union says the ordinance targets young men of color.
Young adults in the village, like 21-year-old Joe Klomes, say the new law infringes on their personal style. He says leaders should instead spend money on making the area look nicer.
In Flint, Michigan, Flint Police Chief David Dicks (pictured above) has said he will not back down from his policy of filing disorderly conduct or indecent exposure charges against those whose saggy pants allow too much underwear or their bottoms to show on city streets (view video).

In response, the American Civil Liberties Union’s Michigan chapter told the Free Press on Monday that it is now looking for targets of the policy to talk with the organization. The ACLU has called the city ordinance unconstitutional.
“We are confident that young men in Flint will contact us now that the chief has announced that he won’t budge,” Michael J. Steinberg, legal director of the state ACLU, said Monday. “If they do, we’ll sue. We may have the dubious distinction of being the first saggy pants lawsuit in the country.” [ READ MORE ]
Detroit and various cities in South Carolina are also jumping on the ‘no saggy pants’ bandwagon.
JONES ASK FOR COMMUTED SENTENCE
Disgraced Olympic track star Marion Jones has asked President Bush to commute her six-month prison sentence for lying to federal agents about her use of performance-enhancing drugs and a check-fraud scam.
Jones, a former Olympic gold medalist, was convicted in January of lying to federal agents investigating the use of steroids and other performance-enhancing drugs in track and field. She was sentenced to six months in prison and 400 hours of community service and began serving the sentence in Texas on March 7.
The Justice Department reviews all requests for pardons and commutations and makes recommendations to the president. A pardon removes a conviction from someone’s record, while a commutation only reduces or eliminates the person’s sentence, according to the Associated Press. It was not clear when Jones made the request, AP reported.
Jones, 32, has been stripped of her medals won at the 2000 Sydney Olympics.








181 Comments
1.
BigDaddyReg
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
Wow just wow
2.
Nothing But Love
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
Yes….you see Nas cares
btw his album is HAWWTTT!!!!…. y’all go pick up a copy
3.
Uh Oh Spaghetto-O's
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
Wow is all I can come up with…WOW
4.
BlackAndCloseMinded
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
93 days in jail for pants sagging is a bit much
5.
pretty_charlie
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
my boyfriend put me on Fox News tactics a while ago…I don’t support that news channel at all.
That sagging ish is WACK, i’m glad they are cracking down on it, because i’m tired of seeing grown man asses all day long.
Marion oh Marion
6.
Nothing But Love
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
wow its gonna be a crime to sag your pants…damn these people aint playing
7.
Ms Truth
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
********Jones did the crime pay the time
******go Nas. I wrote an email after the Baby Mama comment. It is disgusting that
*******FOX continues to disgrace Obama (next US President)
*******Send those boys to a clothing store for some belts. I agree with the no saggy
******rules. It is disgusting to be looking at a$$ crack.
8.
Enneirda07
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
wow…they actually made a chart for this??? i don’t like it, but they’re wasting city time and money on this.
9.
Dame(there is no stopping the haters)
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
*******I forgot that Marion was in jail
********Go Nas
10.
complexndope
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
…….Go head Nas! Make a Difference. Shame on Fox News.
…….Virginia Beach was one of the 1st cities to crack down on sagging….you get
…….fined for that along with cursing.
……..Marion, you weren’t crying then…so don’t cry now.
11.
Jamie
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
It just makes you realize how sagging is so ignorant with that little diagram thing they have up there. Whats the point of sagging?? Like not pulling your pants up all the way says “Im the definition of cool” or something…
12.
Rhapsody
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
Kudos to Nas for using his celbrity for a good cause. Fox news, no words for them. I won’t let their negative energy turn my positivity sour. They will get their’s soon. Karma is a mofo
Wow on the sagging pants thing. I personally don’t care for it, but they know they are infringing on people’s personal rights with this one. It will be interesting to see how far people will go with this issue. I’m sure this will get much press and many law suits, while important issues get tossed to the wind. Next…
I really do feel bad for Marion. I wish it hadn’t have had to come to this. I hope that from this issue springs some positivity. God does not put more on us than we can bear.
Great post as always CL.
Out.
13.
Tabby
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
We all know what comes with wearing saggin pants and what they represent. And it’s nothing nice. So it’s time someone did something about it. I don’t care about what other races are doing. But us blacks need to play our position. It takes a village remember… Too bad the law had to get involved.
14.
chanelle
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
Saggy pants???? Truly is that worth tax payers money. People should be free to wear what they want. IF U DONT LIKE IT DONT LOOK.
15.
Jazz
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
MARION ONLY GOT LIKE 2 MORE MONTHS LEFT. JUST RIDE THEM LAST TWO OUT.
16.
Chantle
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
Jones’ was sentenced to 6 months in prison. She started serving time on March 7, and wants a “communted sentence” now. It is July , she might as well tough it out and complete her sentence. She has like 2 months left. She has already completed 4 months.
17.
GET OUT OF HERE!
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
It is disgusting that ALL THE NETWORKS BESIDES FOX THINKS THAT OBAMA IS A “GOD” THAT CAN DO NO WORNG! get the hell out of here with that shit.. I tell you us black people all ways trying to play the race card but yet… we can say all this shit about other people and don’t think its wrong get a life… If Obama wants to run America all sides of him needs to be shown good, bad and ugly and that’s what FOX news is doing… but when they do that OH NO!!! there raciest bah bah bah.
18.
irrational rationalist
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
now im no fan and and never have and never will date a man with saggy ass pants but a law tho?…theres a whole bunch of other fashion statements, for lack of better words, that i hate to see when im walking down the damn street…so i hate to say it…but this is a racial issue
19.
Chantle
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
Jazz we were thinking the same thing
20.
Jason
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
(GETOUTOFHERE) COULDNT HAVE SAID IT ANY BETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
21.
natural mystique
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
The only way to strike Fox down is by starving all sponsors and advertisers associated with their programs.
If we focus on their $ source, they’ll pull out, leaving Fox dry and in deep shyt.
Regarding the saggy pants, its a ridiculous trend that only the impressionable “sheeple” follow. Making arrests on the basis of “style” is wrong though. It’s not like these fools who dress that way are exposing bare ass.
22.
2 Cents
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
YES Nas. I sure did sign one of those petitions too! Fox is sooo disrespectful when it comes to Obama. These reporters MUST reap the consequences for their words!
Detroit stand Up! I was out yesterday (in Detroit) and saw some sagging that would be considered disorderly conduct. It’s rediculous!!!
23.
Leesa~Lisa
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
Thats messed up what happened to Marion Jones. All of these baseball players are on steroids and nothing is being done to them. I wishing her luck!
Its about time something is being done about that sagging pants BS. I tired of looking at males with their asses out.
Im riding with my man Nas, go gett’em boo.
24.
i'm just here for the free food
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
that’s the nas i know and care about. the song & video is truth! i wish him the best. if he comes to l.a. and does a protest outside of fox studios, i’ll be right there with him.
25.
donte
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
it’s pathetic that when black men can be put in jail for somthing as dumb as that you may not think that saggy pants is good but our freedom is worth you not having an eye sore they nedd to start putting some of these sistas in jail for these wack out hair styles and hoochie outfits
26.
Bohwe
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
I respect Nas for taking action and demanding change, FOX is media and thus is protected under the Constitution, but when they went after Michelle , that was wrong because she’s not running for President, Obama is. But, everyone knows that FOX is controversial. Nas is correct, but shouldn’t he address the issues in the Black Community, you know the ones that Rappers endorse.
The no sagging pants policy is a good thing. When a person wear sagging pants, it means that they want to be known for something negative and not posititve. When a person respects themselves and their environment they will act and dress as such. And the ACLU needs to stay away from this, they protect any and everybody, no matter what. This is the same group that will protect the rights of child molestors. Also, why would the ACLU care about inner cities anyway, most of them are probably white surburban liberals, who really hav no idea about the dilemnas of the inner cities.
27.
TeTe(LOVIN KID CUDI)
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
the FOX situation just makes me sick…seriously.and nobody outside of the viewers seem to have a problem with it,not even the people who have the power to deal with it,..
i get so mad when i see dudes still carrying on with the sagging thing…what is the point of it?as much as i hate it 93 days in jail does not seem fair,FINING them sounds better….but maybe it will scare these dummies enough to not want to do it…
28.
tionyhoni
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
Well I Dont Know Whats Up With The Pants Now!!!, But I Do Know That At One Point Boys Got Their A** Kicked Or Badly Teased For Floods Or Flooding, Pants That Came Ankle High Because They Were Poor And Sagging Became A Trend So That Pants Would Reach Gymshoe Level. Nas Shades Are Hot! One Of The Best Shades Ive Seen On A Man.
29.
MW09
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
@16, there’s a difference between a network disliking a candidate and a network being discriminatory, distasteful, evil and vicious towards a candidate…..I mean they said that he SHOULD BE ASSASSINATED!!!!! There’s no help if you think what they’re doing is RIGHT?!?!
30.
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Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
[...] and various cities in South Carolina are also jumping on the ‘no saggy pants’ [...]
31.
TylerNol
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
FREE MARION! Baby girl gets a pass from me.
NAS: Two words - Sagging sales.
SAGGIN JEANS: Oh well, you bring that penitentiary mentality out to the streets and 5.0 is gonna call you on it. Whatever. It’s time grown-ass black men grew up and started dressing like serious adults anyway. To paraphrase what Gabrielle Union’s character said in Daddy’s Little Girls, any man above 25 rocking a du-rag, throwback jersey (unless you’re at a Saturday BBQ), saggin-ass jeans or still thumbing a Playstation EVERYDAY ain’t a good look.
32.
Queen
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
Good for Nas and the other organizations who are trying to petition FOX News…For those who still have not got that Nas cd (your lame if you have not), make sure to listen to ’sly fox’. Its about Fox News! BTW, that police on sagging pants, that is crazy…I don’t care for sagging pants myself but that is just a violation of rights!
33.
JUDAH
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
————-Good for Flint, Michigan. I’m tired of seeing brothers with their asses
————-exposed. That’s one clothing trend that I wish had faded out years ago, and
————-obviously isn’t going to. I hope they bring this law to New York.
34.
TeTe(LOVIN KID CUDI)
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
@17,have you even listened or read anything that has been displayed on that bullshit ass station because you cant seriously believe that this is just another situation when “black people are pulling the race card..”how is it not racist that people are saying he should be “lynched” and then keep referring to him as a “terroist…” naw,YOU GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE WITH THAT SHIT….even the people who arent behind Obama can see what is going on….
35.
why?
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
jail time for saggy pants is a bit much…………but i cant say i’m totally against this regulation….i find the underwear exposure pretty gross myself
36.
ThatGirlLinda
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
***********If I was in New York I would be there too. Those boys shouldn’t be sagging
**********anyway. Why do you want to walk around looking like prisoners..Go NAS
37.
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Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
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38.
Donte your an arse
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
#25 To justify your sagging pants and fining and jailing is wrong you attack sistas, blk women did not make the law but some of these dumb women will be standing behind self and sista hating negros like you, to defend blk men because of the law. Dont belittle the blk women and say they are the ones who need to be fined because basically when your jailed who will you be calling (mother,sister,aunt,girlfriend,etc.)
On another note fox and its number one Bill O’reilly has always said negative things regarding minorites so why today is the day you decide to do something about. things should have been done awhile ago. I mean come on everyone knows Fox is conservative so it should not be surprising when they bash liberals though they may take it to some extreme
39.
GHO
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
THIS SAGGING THING IS MOTHERFUCKING RIDICULOUS…BECAUSE THEY KNOW ITS A EVOLUTIONALLY LEARNED BUT BLACK CULTURAL ADAPTATION FOR PEOPLE TO SAG THEIR PANTS…ITS GENERATIONAL.
AND I BELIEVE THT SHIT IS WRONG BECAUSE WHITE PPL CAN WALK OUTSIDE WITH WHATEVER THE HELL THEY WANT TO HAVE ON AND ITS NO PROBLEM, WHOS OPINION IS THAT IT IS INDECENT….? WHOS TO SAY YOUR CLOTHES HAVE TO FIT THE WAY SOMEONE ELSE WANTS THEM TO FIT?
IF THERE IS NO OVERT SEXUAL REPRESENTATION IN THE TREND THEN LEAVE THESE KIDS ALONE, YES ITS SOMETHING THAT ALOT OF PEOPLE DONT LIKE, BUT HELL THERES ALWAYS GONNA BE A GENERATIONAL DISCREPANCY. OLD PPL GONNA SAY OUR MUSIC AINT SHIT, WE GONNA SAY OLD PPL ARE OLD FASHIONED. THEY SAY OUR FASHION IS RIDICULOUS, WE SAY THEIR STYLE IS DATED. IF ONE IS WALKING ON THE ST WITH HIS ASS OUT, SO THE HELL WHAT…LET HIM DO WHAT HE WANTS. THERE IS A TIME AND PLACE FOR EVERYTHING - IF HE CANT GET THE DRIFT THAT IT IS INAPPROPRIATE FOR THE CORPORATE WORLD, THATS ONE THING…BUT IN A COMMUNITY, A CULTURE, HOW MOTHERFUCKING DARE YOU DEFINE WHAT IS “RIGHT”…..BECAUSE OPINION DOES NOT MATTER IN CULTURAL DEVICE!
FUCK AMERICA, YALL DONT KNOW HOW THEY HAVE HELD US BACK SO LONG. MOST PPL WILL JUST SIT BACK AND ALLOW AMERICA TO DICTATE TO THEM THE WAY LIFE SHOULD BE BUT BEFORE YOU ACCEPT THE IDENTITY THEY GAVE YOU RECONNAISSANCE YOUR OWN!
40.
alexis
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
@ number 17 how does an anchor calling Obama’s wife his baby mama reflect his negative side when the are married or “mistakenly” callling him a terrorist have anything to do with portraying all of his characteristics. Now certainly they are entitled to their opinions of the presidential candidates, but I would they would want to present factual information and not resort to public slander. sadistically, this is also their opinions of african americans as well.
41.
JUDAH
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
————-@25
————-I missed your comment originally but #38 put me onto it. I agree totally. The
————-black and hispanic woman has been allowed to dress the like a prostitute
————-in this society for the last 40 years. They should be locked up as well.
————-After Nas delivers that petition to FOX, he should deliver Kelis to a detox
————-center. I hope he doesn’t hold his breath waiting for FOX to change their
————-practices and beliefs. I notice while watching the “Sly Fox” video that he had
————-that rapper jumpoff, Ms. Info, in the video. You can see that her chink-ass
————-had no attachment with the sentiment that the two brothers were bringing
————-out. This is why I maintain that if black people think that hip-hop will bring
————-all races together, they are sadly mistaken. She could care less and it
————-showed in the video. She’s just captivated by hip-hop and the black man’s
————-penis.
42.
bria
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
I think they are cracking down because they were sneaking weapons into places in those big pants. What’s a shame is that the parents let this style get so out of control. I mean I literally see guys having to hold their pants up with their hands while walking down the street. That is just stupid.
I don’t think anyone should get locked up and get a record for baggy pants, but, they have to find a way for these young men to stop killing each other and innocent people also. If they are hiding weapons in those big pants then hey they should crack down. But I think if anyone is going to serve jail time it should be the people.
43.
NETE
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
Smh they worried about bs these cops need better things to do…
44.
tenderoni
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
WOW.. the Chi aint playing.. I kno them dudes was like what? Are u serious? Dont u have crime to fight. Or a drug bust,Dv call, Disorderly conduct.? What? LOL
45.
Shag
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
Bravo to Color of Change. This type of activism is what is needed (Jena 6 marches was a beautiful site to behold). The blaming “the white-man” shit is a joke, boots on the ground is the only way to go. I hope some of this activism looks inward as well. We’ve got a gang murder epidemic in most of our major cities. AIDS is killing our women, we are dropping-out of high school at an alarming rate, we need to help ourselves, and not project it onto othere races.
46.
Donte your an arse
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
…..now that obama is in office and they attack Michelle because the only thing they have to pick on Obama about is this whole terrorism thing i.e his name.
47.
GHO
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
AND IF YOU NOTICE EVERYONE WHO AGREES WITH THE LAWS CREATED FOR SAGGING VOICES AN “OPINION” ON WHY ITS NOT A GOOD LOOK….
ONE PERSON SAID, THESE KIDS NEED TO START DRESSING LIKE SERIOUS ADULTS…
WTF? WHO ARE U TO TELL SOMEONE HOW THEY SHOULD DRESS, OR THAT DRESSING LIKE A “SERIOUS ADULT ” IS WHAT WILL GET THEM AHEAD IN WHAT THEY WANT TO DO? NO EVERYONE DOES NOT WANT TO FOLLOW THE CORPORATE WORLD STANDARD. I FEEL AS THOUGH WHEN YOU ARE REPRESENTING A WHOLE FOUNDATION (SUCH AS A COMPANY) THAT IS ONE THING TO RECONSIDER, BECAUSE YOU SIGN TO ADAPT THEIR POLICIES, BUT WALKING ON THE ST IS FREE, AND WHEN IF EVER IS ONE ABLE TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES THE WAY THEY CHOOSE IF SOMEONE IS DICTATING WHAT THE HELL THEY COULD WEAR?! I AM TOTALLY TOTALLY AGAINST THAT, BECAUSE UNLESS YOU ARE REALLY EXHIBITING A BEHAVIOR THAT CAN POTENTIALLY HARM SOMEONE BACK THE FUCK OFF! IF A GUY HAS HIS PENIS OUT, THAT IS A CLEAR SEXUAL OVERTURE…THAT CAN BE DETRIMENTAL, BUT BECAUSE HE CHOOSES TO SAG IS NOT A SEXUAL OVERTURE….ITS JUST AN “EYE SORE” TO !!SOME!!….
AND WHAT THE GUY WAS SAYING AT #25 WAS RIGHT, (THE EXAMPLE HE USED WAS MUCH ) BUT HE’S SAYING THE GOVERNMENT IS GIVING THEIR OPINION ON WHAT LOOKS GOOD AND WHAT DOES NOT, BASED ON A NON SEXUAL TREND….WHO ARE YOU HURTING TO SAY THAT YOU CAN SAG
48.
NeonDiscoPimp
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
Don’t really like sagging pants. But this is ridiculous for a number of reasons!
1. The saggy style is on it’s way out.
2. This amounts to racial profiling (Rockerfeller Laws, etc.)
3. This is a publicity stunt, not a substantive issue.
4. We were saggin’ back in the 90’s. Why now?
Fashion trends come & go. Let the community decide on their own. Let businesses, schools, churches, etc. decide what decorum they want. That will change attitudes. This law is a publicity stunt.
49.
soccerfiend26
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
whtite folks always tryna make us look black,…i mean bad,from obama to saggy pants its not a coincidence they know what the f@#k they doing so bigups to people like nas who wont stand for it.marion shut up and do your time you deserve a lot worse do you know how many little girls grew up tryna be you?your ass needs anoda six months just for asking for a dumbass commuted sentence wat d hell is wrong with you?
50.
STLCHICK
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
….I just got done watching the Nas video and I am so sickened w/ this country right
….now. I mean I knew that racism was still alive because I experience it almost daily.
….Nas spit the truth and I wish I could thank him personally.
…The pants sagging thing is BULLSHIT!!! I can not believe they are trying to enforce
….that. How can they limit and control people’s personal styles? There are “goths”
….and “emo” people running around and there are no laws against that. I personally
….think that there are other ways to try and make a city seem “safer.” How about
….cleaning it up!?
51.
crunkpoet
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
chill out with the stupid laws..there are other things in this word to worry about..besides, aint nothing like a phat ass on a man!! hahahahhahahaha
52.
Ashes
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
That sagging pants issue is downright offensive… and not in the way you think… wearing your trousers ludicrously low is a personal choice and is how people feel comfortable dressing, if a woman was wearing a low cut top showing her breasts, will they arrest her for that… or if she wears a short skirt where she hardly hides anything on a night out, will she be thrown in jail?!?! didnt think so… that could be considered lewd behaviour if this system wasn’t so STUPID
everybody talking about overcrowding in prisons and they want to put somebody in jail for something like this… the police need to do their job and catch some real criminals, like rapists, murderers, child molesters… the fashion police will catch the rest and put their pics up on the “Slippin” group on Facebook!!! DAMN
53.
Get'em
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
>Goin to jail 4 saggin??? thats insane! Its way more important stuff goin on.
54.
ThaTruth
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
that first sagging PIC “warning” is killing me. GTFOH!
Nas, I understand his involvement, what was he naming his album again?…Sometmes he is dumb, sometimes smart. Stay smart Nas!
Marion - no need to read but she deserves time lke the next!
55.
Un abrazo, Gabby
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
Judah,
who do you think glamourize this style and way we so called Latinas and black women dress….. black men. So save face it will just revert back to you. You must be one of those isrealites.
56.
Rae of StuffFlyPeopleLike.com
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
Nas stepps it up!!! Where is Hip Hop now??? I’m all for a FOX BoyCott!!!!
These Dudes need to stop exposing their “ASS” anyway…SMH
Is it really that hard to pull up ur pants?
57.
SAY WHAT:O
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
NOooo #’s 17 n 20. Yes u should show both the bad and the good sides but their comments were racial if u didnt read. They talking about lenching Mrs. Obama and calling her a “baby mama.” Those comments are totally irrational and u would not (as well should not) here any news channel bad mouthing McCain’s wife or anybody elses wife that way. Okay they Fox aren’t “Pro Obama” but the comments they made were just tooo far.
58.
Tiffy
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
Fox News is a joke they need to get rid of the channel all together and sagging pants are corny but I do think making it a crime is a bit much and as for Marion Jones she only has like 2 months left she needs to just do her time
59.
Theworldwillendin2012
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
I do feel that the sagging pants law is a bit much, pple shuld dress how the fuck they wanna dress, however i would like 2 mention that men who sag their pants look tasteless& classless & would never get a chance.
60.
blk dds
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
——-Please make the sagging law universal. I hate to see a man, boy, child with his
——-pants down around his butt/ankles. It is so disgusting. I point’em out and turn up
——-my nose. The 21 y/o said “leaders should instead spend money on making the
——area look nicer”…….FOOL, it starts with the ppl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
61.
MAI03
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
Good for Nas, I do not support Fox news.
Personally, i hate the saggin’ pants like past the butt saggin’ pants where you can actually see their draws. They’ll have on their tee shirt, jeans, but the jeans are actually below their butts and u can see their WHOLE draws they have on. I have seen boxers, but one time dude had on some of those like boxer briefs ya’ll men wear and that was just soooooo ridiculous to me. The guy was so young and I know he did not leave the house like that, cuz i would of wacked my son across the head if I caught him wearing his pants like that! My question is this to anyone here in the comment section who wears their pants that way–why? Is below the butt a way u think girls will want you? Or am I way off? I just really would like to know why and why u think that look is appealing?
62.
Genuine Lady
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
Good for Nas.
Out of all the crime, open cases, missing children, drugs, and so on that’s all they are worried about is “sagging pants”. Now Don’t get me wrong I don’t like to see a man with his Ass hanging out but it aint that deep for them to make a LAW about and waste TAXPAYERS money by putting them in jail. While this cop is stopping this dude cause his Drawers are showing a couple of blocks down somebody is getting shot or raped. Are they that bored? Don’t they have enough to do? People need to get their priorities straight.
63.
QueenEarth
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
II’m glad to see Nas doing his thing because FOX has always been blatantly racist, the other networks too. Their views are a perception of the black experience as if they know.
It’s unfortunate that the pencil pushers found another way to document and penalize the youth. It’s even more sad and unfortunate that our youth don’t realize that this fad is a suggestion —that you’re ready to be duked in the butt. ewww This trend started in prison with inmates being forced to expose themselves for ready-access. Prayer is needed. (also belts –hehehe)
64.
bria
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
that is taking away our freedom with the way we dress which isnt fair. n plus those pants wasnt even that bad. thats how i like boys to wear them. when they wear the crotch of their pants LITERALLY at the knees, thats just no cool. they need to pull them over.
65.
kmniles
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
Women on this site (some of them anyway) are hypocritical with the sagging pants thing. They won’t comment on guys that have their butts hanging out exposing their “male lingerie” but are quick to say men that wear fitted jeans are somehow gross or feminine. Ladies….please make up your minds, lol. As a man i’ve never understood the craze with sagging pants, especially since youngins don’t halfway wash their asses….but whatever.
It’s nice that Nas wants to expose Fox News for what he sees as an attempt to slander the black race as a whole, but wasn’t he the one who wanted to title his album Ni&&er as an attempt (in my eyes) to stir up controversy for his project until we petitioned his ass? How ironic is that? He needs to let someone else lead this brigade cause he’s not legit enough to bring serious commentary to the issue. Sorry Nasir.
66.
Lady Architect
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
I’m proud of what Nas is doing. It doesn’t even start with Obama they have been doing it for years which is why I don’t support Fox network.
As far as the sagging pants thing goes, it is disgusting that a law must be made to cover up what parents didn’t enforce. It is borderline of going as rights though. I’m sick of nthe saggy jeans especially when you’re surrounded with it everywhere you go. Both black and white boys thinks its cool to do and we can say look the other way but it’s sickening.
As far as Marion Jones go I think she should stick it out although I do think it is unfair that Mcguire, Sosa, and other baseball players have been exposed yet they are still on ballots as possible inductees to the hall of fame.
67.
Stepdadep
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
I feel for M. Jones…I appreciate her honesty though.
68.
Vee1
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
Fox is taking the freedom of speech for all it’s worth and then some. I’m glad to see people in the Hip-Hop community standing up for what’s right. Hopefully they can get something done at Fox because it’s just outright racisim. Nobody talks about Cindy McCain, so why is Michelle Obama being targeted. She is trying to raise women, black women at that, and at every turn she is criticized for every little thing she does. She beleives in her husband and supports what he does. More power to them, and they can bump fist all day.
69.
ladytroublesome
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
Wow, I guess these various cities are crime free to be so worried about the way people choose to wear their pants…Get the fuck outta here. That’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard.
70.
Monica :)
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
i dont know why but i find the chart to be kinda funny but 93 days in jail is way too much time for saggin i think a week is enough we dont need to be putting too many ppl in jail
as for marion i dont have any sympathy at all for her cuz she knew what she was doing
71.
The Wayno Show
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
Just pull the damn pants up kids…welcome to 2008.
72.
SAY WHAT:O
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
Such bullshit and waste of money that needs more to be spent on more useful issues than some boy saggying. Yes sagging is really wack, ugly, and makes a boy looks plain foolish waddeling because he’s trying to keep his pants from falling; but no need to arrest him for it.
How can no sagging (or just changing the way people dress) make a citiy look nicer?? Explain that one, please. If u want to make the city look nicer maybe someone i mean just any fucking body should tell, Joe Kolmes, to use the money thats going towards the arrest to clean the damn city.
Its just another unneccessary task for bored cops to do.
but on the flip side. boys and Escpecialy the Grown ass Men that needs to grow up, do need to put the sagging to rest. Showing boxers is just old as hell.
73.
WOW
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
Yoooo, sagging thing is not fair! My weight fluctuates, so I can’t keep buying new clothes/belts every couple weeks/months. This law is stupid! What are they going to do, administer belts now? This make absolutely no sense!
74.
Nic
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
Blah, i’ve never been a huge fan of the saggy jeans thing other but being fined and arrested for it? I personally think that’s ridiculous. What’s even more ridiculous is that first saggy jeans picture. How the hell will they see that we ppls shirts covering it? Tackle every black man to the ground and pull up his shirt….wth >.>
75.
JUDAH
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
———–@55
———–Yes I am, of the tribe of Judah. All our people brought here are (Deut 28:68).
———–Let me ask you a question. Do you think that it justifies how one dresses if
———–it draws attention? What are you saying about yourself that you need to
———–dress provocatively to get someone to look at you (not saying you per se)?
———–If that’s the case, go naked. I gurantee you that men will look. It always
———–entertains me when sisters try to justify how they dress based on how it is
———–perceived by men and then they’ll next say that they dress “how they want”.
———–Well are you dressing how you want or dressing to attract men? If a man
———–decided to join a gang to attract women and started to wear rags in his back
———–pocket, that will also attract police and rival gang members. My point being
———–that when you lust for attention, you will have to accept the good with the
———–bad.
76.
Tiffany
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
~~~~ I personally find it tacky for a man to sag but it is just that, my personal opinion. I also find it tacky when you see a woman purposely making her thong show but hey guess thats not bringing down the neighborhood in Los Angeles. I don’t agrue that it is tacky and they should pull up their damn pants but it should not be deemed illegal.
77.
MissKella
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
Flint has more issues than the saggy pants young men are wearing, this is just a band-aid/distraction from the major issues going on in this city. Poor education levels, our mayor’s as crooked as can be, and we damn near have no jobs. Economic conditions continue to deteriorate and the issue the police attack is saggy pants gtfoh. How about we decrease the crimes in our city period and work on saving our children. I’m glad I moved
78.
shauny
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
…I live in Chicago and know where this small azz town of Lynwood is. They are tripping. The pictures above are a perfect example of what is going to happen because of this law. The officer had to actually pull the young man shirt up in order to see his pants.
…This law was supposed to be set up for people that we can actually see their underwear. This is not the case with the pictures above. It just gives police more reasons to mess with young men
79.
Tabby
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
@ Judah, I agree with you 100% I am a parent and it goes beyond me not liking the “style” I am my child’s guardian. So I have to guide him in the right direction. Saggin pants brings negative attention. And not just from the police. The black male already has enough against him. @ Wow, I see some guys with saggin pants and a belt on. smdh. If you want your pants to stay up, you will find a way. The losing weight thing is just an excuse. Don’t buy a size 42 when your a size 34. No one loses weight that fast.
80.
vonnie
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
—–Sagging pants can get u locked up or harassed by the cops like it isn’t bad
—-enough on our people getting locked up for stupid mess this is the next worst
—-thing to start locking people up for dressing the way the want, what about the
—-females that wear skirts n shorts that don’t cover their butts or people showing
—–their crusty toes in the summer I don’t like seeing that either will they go to jail
—– too for showing something I don’t want to see in public?
81.
JUDAH
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
————-@55 again
————-Then sisters will maintain that brothers just want them for sex, lol. Well if
————-you’re dressed like a whore, what do you think the first thing on a man’s
————-mind will be? I can gurantee that when I read the newspaper and see a story
————-about a woman that was raped, it will almost unerringly be a white, black, or
————-hispanic woman. These are the three classes of women that celebrate
————-”feminism” and “freedom” the most and are out in the streets in the middle
————-of the night by themselves. All that being said, I do hope that they bring that
————-sagging pants law to New York. It’s time for the black man to be a man, pull
————-up his pants, and put down that damn video game controller while he’s at it.
————-It’s sad that when you hear 2 or more brothers carrying on about a topic, it’s
————-either about a damn video game, a rapper, or an NBA playoff series.
82.
Tabby
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
We can “blame” the white man. But most of our problems are brought on by us. It’s time to stop accepting everything and stand up for something. It’s 2008!
83.
divainva
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
Nas intellect is off lately . I need him to come back to reality .
84.
let's not lie
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
@JUDAH please white men dress like hoes just as much if not more than black chicks, at least in the city they do. i’m tired of seeing these girls walking in the streets with shorts so short that i can see the bottom of their ass cheeks. it’s not cute.
i hate sagging jeans btw. it makes a man look very unattractive and it’s so childish. it’s like grow up already. no one is saying that you have to wear tight pants or high waters but at least do like will smith or kanye and buy pants that can still be loose like you like them and fit as the same time. idk if there should be a law against it though b/c it does affect personal rights but i’m just saying that i hate the trend with a passion. i never ever ever date guys who dress like that, especially if you add the jersey and doo-rag.
85.
shauny
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
I have to do a second post on this one after reading some comments.
When is sagging pants a “black” , gang, whatever other negative thing you folks want to make it out to be. I’ve seen vendors, cable installers, skate boarders, punk rockers, preppy boys ALL wearing their damn pants sagging worse than the young men shown in the pictures above. Sagging pants isn’t a black thing or a negative intent of a black male like some of you would like to believe. It is a damn fashion trend, one that I don’t care but, but it is what it is.
there were radios stations all across Chicago arguing the same issue “we” are on her discussing right now, the police targeting black youths by making a law on something THEY believe will get black youth off of “their” streets. The think is, the town is 90% white and plenty of people from that town called the stations saying that they were WHITE young men who didn’t like wearing tight or just fit pants and preferred a bit of sag to their jeans.
Are we arresting people for Whale tale, skirts the you can see the cracks of young girls behinds? No, for sagging pants…you think about that.
86.
divainva
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
Smh . Hypocrisy at it’s finest .
87.
BAM BANG
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
NaS is a stand up guy.
he speaks the truth and he spreads the truth and he is commited to action.
The older he gets the more relevent he becomes.His presence alone will be major in getting action. Now where are the rest of the rappers and entertainers and buiness men. We need everyone we can get!!!!!!!
PROPS TO NaS FOR BEING ABOUT ACTION!!!!!!!!!!!
F*CK FOX as a company, & staff
They have been pulling alot of racist acts and getting away with it.
Time to end it. WE WILL NOT TOLORATE THE HATE ANY LONGER
VOTE OBAMA 08
88.
BAM BANG
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
Sag ya pants man its kool with me.
I get my sag on as well. But tastefully.
Dont have ya undies and ass all exposed.
I know we gangsta but we still gotta have respect for the elders man.
Pull em up a little and keep ya shirt over ya boxers and that should be good.
All that police lifting people shirts up to see if their drawls are showing is a violation of rights and should not be tolorated. If the cops cant see underwear they should not go looking for them. otherwise SAGG ON MY NIZZLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
89.
let's not lie
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
@judah i meant white women lmao not white men
90.
JUDAH
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
————@84
————I don’t give a damn about the white woman.
91.
let's not lie
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
@judah what i’m saying is you need to stop acting like black women and hispanic women are the only ones dressing like hoes. everytime i read your comments you only have negative things to say about black women especially as if they’re the problem to everything
92.
dukesman2000
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
Go ahead Nas, crack down on those crackers….
As for the saggy pants, based on the chart the dude on the left shoul dbe given a wanring and the dude on the left should not be reprimanded because his pants are legal. Doesn’t look like the cop is following instructions to me…or is he?
Fuck Marion Jones, she never thought about sympathy when she was cheating and shattering people’s dreams. Look at Merlene Ottey, she would have had countless gold medals if it weren’t for those cheating Americans….Serve your time bitch..wear is Gail Devers? She should be investigated too. I know she retired but that bitch used so much juice there should still be some trace in her system.
93.
do better
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
BLACK PEOPLE LOVE TO SIGN PETTIONS AND MARCH . IT NEVER CHANGED ANYTHING SO WHY DO YALL KEEP DOING ?
BLACK WOMEN NEED TO BE LOCKED UP AS WELL . I SEE A NUMBER OF WOMEN ASSES AND MUFIN STOMACH HANGING OVER THEIR TOO TIGHT JEANS ALL THE TIME . WHY DO WE HAVE TO BE FORCED TO LOOK AT THAT ?
94.
JUDAH
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
————-@91
————-No I don’t. The sisters are not used to being taken to task. We all have our
————-faults and they need to be addressed. You can look in the newspaper and
————on the news everyday and see the black man’s shortcomings be exposed for
————the world to see and mock. I agree that something needs to be done about
————how the black man is dressing and his infatuation with things for children,
————like videogames. You, nor anyone else had a problem with that. As soon as
————I mentioned the sisters, it became an issue with you because our women are
————being gassed up on a daily basis by the white man and entities like Oprah to
————believe that they can do no wrong. No, everything must be addressed.
95.
thoro
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
It is a shame that we need UnKKKLE Sam to teach our youth respect for themselves ans their elders. Hell! sometime youe see older DUMMIES walking around with sagging pants! I think jail time for being stupid is a good idea! Sagging pants is not even a fashion statement! I beleive in being unque and Rebelling against the system sometimes but that sht is just plain nasty- I have even seen dyke-thugs with g-strings showing whewww just nasty. The funny thing is some fools even waer belts and have their pants all the way dowwn to their knees. BLACK FOLKS LETS GET IT TOGETHER! LET’S CONCENTRATE ON GETTING OBAMA IN OFFICE AND REGISTERING TO VOTE!
96.
algie
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
fox news always reminds me just how far as a country we have to go and to people who like to wear the pants sagging all i have to say is why do you wear a belt with your pants so low you can see your underwear.whats the purpose for the belt lol
97.
JUDAH
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
————–@93
————-I agree. The man was on his album talkin’ bout, “I aint got it in me to march,
————-I got a semi to spark.” Now the brother is signing petitions begging the white
————-man to treat him better. Whatever. Wait for it but don’t hold your breath.
————-Those crackers at FOX are real and they will tell a negro how they feel to
————-their face. Our people are emotional so they can’t handle it when the white
————-man and woman tell them how they really feel.
98.
vanity6
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
hey CL, there’s an article on janelle monet in this month’s vouge w/kate moss on the cover…
99.
Original Truth (I don't care if ya get mad)
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
I’m on bored for the Fox Five petition!! Good for Nas for bringing this to light getting involved and taking action!! He speaks about the media and Fox 5 on his cd so this is an on-going issue!!!
Uh saggy pants are so gay anyway.Saggy pants came from prison and prison mentality…uh undercover brothers come out of prison…. I mean really dudes walking around with their pants down showing their underwear and expecting a gay dude not to look? I doubt any female is going to say “oh his underwaer is so fly”…lol… Who are you impressing by showing your underwear anyway? I doubt any resonably intelligent female will give a dude with saggy pants the time of day and if you do I think you should have doubts about his sexuality…..
Because showing your ass is not cute in any form or fashion…lol.. and the only person that might think it’s cute is the gay dude next you because just like a hetero male a gay male is looking at ass and he isn’t looking at me…lol.. he’s looking at those calvins..
100.
Jayla James
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
Okay I am all for the no saggy pants rule…BUT…what about women when they wear their clothes and thongs stick out? What about low cut shirts and show some of their breast? How does that rule apply…and yes I am a woman. I just want to know what is the difference??
101.
Holloway
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
HERES WHAT I FIND INTERESTING. MANY PEOPLE, FROM WHAT IVE READ ARE MISSING THE ENTIRE POINT OF THIS SAGGING JEANS ISSUE. GRANTED, SOME DONT LIKE IT SOME DO AND SOME DONT HAVE AN OPINION EITHER WAY. THIS IS RACIAL PROFILING IN ITS MOST EXTREME FORM. IF SAGGING JEANS IS SUCH AN ISSUE (WHICH IT ISNT) WHAT MAKES YOU THINK LAWS BANNING BLACK WOMEN FROM DRESSING SEXY ARENT ALREADY ON THE DRAWING BOARD? OR BETTER YET, CITY MANDATED LAWS ON “APPROPRIATE ATTIRE” FOR ALL BLACK CLUB GOERS? I MEAN LETS LOOK PAST OUR OWN PERSONAL OPINION HERE. IS EVERY BROTHA WHO SAGS A THUG? AND IS BROTHA IN A SUIT AN ASSET TO SOCIETY? HELL NO! IS EVERY WOMAN WITH A BANGIN BODY A HO? OF COURSE NOT. THIS IS THE GOVERNMENT SAYING THAT THEY BELIEVE THE ROOT OF CRIME STEMS FROM BLACK MEN WHO “FIT THE DESCRIPTION.” AND IF THEY FIND A COMMON LINK BETWEEN ALL BLACK MEN (CRIMINAL OR PROFESSIONAL) THEY CAN LOCK US ALL UP. THAT LINK IS OUR SHARED AFFINITY FOR FASHION AND GOING AGAINST THE GRAIN. I SAG MY JEANS ALL THE TIME..AND IVE NEVER BEEN BEEN CONSIDERED UNFASHIONABLE OR CRIMINALISTIC IN DOING SO. SHIT, YOURE FAVORITE RAPPERS SAG ALL THE TIME..LIL WAYNE, NAS, JAY-Z, KANYE WEST, YOUNG JEEZY, TRAVIS FROM GYM CLASS HEROES, PHARRELL (AND COUNTLESS SKATERS!!)..I MEAN THE LIST CAN GO ON FOR MONTHS!
BUT THEN WHAT ABOUT WHITE CULTURE? I DONT SEE ANY CRACK DOWNS ON PEOPLE IN NUTT HUGGIN JEANS. (DONT NOBODY WANNA SEE THAT HOMIE) I DONT SEE ANY CRACK DOWNS ON GOTH INFLUENCED KIDS….WE ALL SEEN THEM KIDS DRESSED IN ALL BLACK, SPIKED OUT HAIR, BLACK LIP STIC, CRAZY METAL BRACELETS THAT COULD EASILY KILL SOMEBODY, BIG ASS STEEL TOE BOOTS AND THEM NEO FROM THE MATRIX COATS. AND WE COULD EASILY STEREOTYPE THEM AND SAY, “HEY I BET THIS MUTHAFUCKA IS GON SHOOT UP A SCHOOL ONE DAY.” OR “OR END UP COMMITTING SUICIDE” YET, THEY WALK OUR STREETS FREELY AND SAY THIS HOW THEY FEEL FREE AND HOW THEY EXPRESS THEMSELVES. WHICH IS TRUE.
SO WHERE IS THE DIFFERENCE? WHERE SAGGING ORIGINATED IS ESSENTIALLY IRRELEVANT. SOUL FOOD ORIGINATED FROM “MASSAH” FEEDIN SLAVES SLOP…I BET THAT ASS STILL LOOKS FORWARD TO SUNDAY DINNER. AMERICA AS A WHOLE IS VERY BACKWARDS! PEOPLE SHOULD BE OUTRAGED THAT COUNTLESS “INNOCENT” BLACK MEN WILL BE FINED AND JAILED FOR DRESSING HOW THEY FEEL MOST COMFORTABLE. I MEAN, THAT DOESNT PISS PEOPLE OFF? BUT EVERYONE COULD CARE LESS WHEN BUSH CUT THE EDUCATION BUDGET…WHICH AFFECTS (WHO ELSE) BLACK KIDS THE MOST. MAYBE IF KANYE GETS ARRESTED PEOPLE WILL SEE JUST HOW UNJUST THS LAW IS. CUZ WE ALL FIND HIM A VERY FASHION WORTHY DUDE. I BET I WONT STOP SAGGING..AND I BET NOBODY EVER SAYS I LOOK SLOPPY-AND IF I GET ARRESTED SO BE IT. NO MAN CONTROLS HOW I LIVE MY LIFE WHEN I KNOW I HAVE NO INTENTION ON BREAKIN THE LAW…
102.
Berkleeboy04
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
I think this sagging pants thing is just another attempt to get more of our black men behind bars - a shameless attempt nonetheless. Saggy pants is a style. It harms no one and I know alot of guys who aren’t gang bangers or thugs who do it just because its a style. We don’t have the right to put people in jail for this unless their infringing on someone else’s right. As long as people can still walk around on the streets with cigarettes in their mouths causing millions of second hand smoking cases then I don’t see the problem with wearing your pants how you want them. What if I start to lose weight and can’t fit my pants anymore and they are falling off my ass? I’m an upsatnding citizen who works and goes to school full time. And pay my damn taxes. Am I going to go to jail for that? To hell with it!
103.
JUDAH
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
———@101
———Pull up you damn pants and stop whining brother. You act as if black men
———weren’t being harassed and stereotyped by the police prior to this.
104.
Holloway
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
JUDAH PLEASE…UR THE SAME PERSON WHO CALLED NELSON MANDELA “OF SATAN.” I WOULDNT EXPECT YOU TO AGREE WITH ANYONE BUT YOURSELF AND OTHER WACKED OUT BLACK MILITANTS. JOIN A CULT AND KILL YASELF
105.
complexndope
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
——> DF does video games have to do with anything?
106.
JUDAH
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
——–@Holloway
——–Who the hell is talking about Nelson Mandela? Since you like him so much,
——–why don’t you wear your pants like he does and stop bitching like a little girl?
——–You’re running around talking about people’s “favorite rappers” that dress like
——–that. All those guys are h*mosexuals, the style came from h*mosexuals in
——–prison, so if you co-sign that hard, you must be one yourself. Be a man and
——–stop crying.
——–@Complex
——–Close your eyes, hold your breath, and meditate on it until the answer comes to
——–you.
107.
The Time is Always Right
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
**It has been mentioned that action should not be taken against Fox simply because they have always been this way. This is one of the most disappointing comments to read coming from someone in the Black Community simply because If that mentality of “Oh well, that’s how its been. We can’t do nothing about it. Why fight it” had caught on in the 1940s,50s,60s We would not have had a Civil Rights Movement, we would not be in the position that we are in today- being able to read successful Black Blogs written by Intelligent and Humorous Black Writers. The time is always right to do right. It doesn’t matter if generations and generations adhered to a certain code before, If you see that it is wrong DO SOMETHING NOW. NAS (Color of Change members- myself included) see that Fox’s comments are inappropriate and have heavy racial undertones so why should we be silent? Just because they’ve ALWAYS been this way. Well excuse me, I don’t quite feel like our people should CONTINUE being repressed or demeaned. That just doesn’t sit right with me and it shouldn’t with you.
108.
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Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
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109.
complexndope
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
——> How about I don’t. It’s apparent YOU don’t have a coherent explanation for it
——> either. So quick to judge others. I play video games, my boyfriend plays video
——> video games also. I do that on my free time when I’m bored…and I could
——> careless if he does.
—–> And I was asking what it had to do with the subject at hand. Saggy pants &
—–> Playstation controllers don’t go hand in hand.
110.
do better
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
I FIGURED COMPLEX MAN MUST PALY VIDEO GAMES . BECAUSE IT BOTHERED HER . THE MAN IS RIGHT MOST BROTHERS NEED TO GROW UP AND STOP ACTING LIKE CHILDREN . IF YOU DIDN’T GET THE POINT OF BRINGING UP VIDEO GAMES THEN MAYBE YOU’RE NOT SO “COHERENT ” AS YOU CLAIM . THE POINT BEING IS TO GROW UP WHICH INCLUDES PULLING UP YOUR DAMN PANTS, GET A DECENT JOB, AND STOP PLAYING VIDEO GAMES ALLDAY . YOUR MAN MUST SIT AT HOME , PLAY VIDEOS GAMES AND EAT UP ALL YOUR FOOD WHILE YOU BRING HOME THE BACON AND YOU’RE RUNNING AROUND BRAGGING ABOUT BEING PREGANT BY A LOW-LIFE . CHILE PLEASE .
111.
complexndope
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
—> Before you are so quick to ASSUME the way my home life is run…
—> My man works DAMN hard. He brings home just as much as I do.
—>While I’m sitting pretty at my desk chatting with those such as yourself
—>He’s outside in the heat busting his ass to make paper. He goes to work before
—>I do & he gets off…after I do. That’s why I could careless if he wants to kick back
—>after a long day on his damn XBox. He’s providing. So yeah I’m proud to be
—>having his child. Because he cooks, cleans & takes care of home. He might not
—>be corporate america or fit to work in an office like myself, but I don’t expect him
—>to be. I’m sorry you’re bitter you’re stuck around low lives that you try to put off
—>on me.
—>My main point is that ya’ll wanna cry police discrimination…when you stereotype
—>& discriminate against our own by the way they dress & other factors.
—>because they sag or like playing wii they have no job??
—>don’t judge a book by it’s cover my dear.
112.
do better
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
>>>>>>WAIT TIL THAT BABY COMES . MY DEAR .
113.
JUDAH
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
———–@109
———–Sister, I didn’t give you an answer originally because I already knew that you
———–don’t want an answer. Video games are for children. It’s my opinion. I don’t
———–understand why a grown man would want to spend countless hours in front
———–of a child’s game. All it does is vegetate the mind. Most of these games have
———–subliminal messages whose intent is to enforce racism and violence. Those
———–systems are one of the main reasons why, not just blacks and hispanics, but
———–all people are tremendously stupid. It’s nothing but an update of the Ancient
———–Roman mantra of “bread and games”. Straight up, I don’t understand how
———–black people wonder why their children do so poorly in school when they
———–placate their children with these ridiculous video games.
114.
complexndope
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
—–> Oh I can’t wait. He’ll still be there. By my side..every step of the way.
—–> That’s so sad you wish the downfall on someone else. Black people are so
—–> bitter & hateful. We’re never going to overcome anything with our culture’s
—–> “crab in a barrel” mentality.
—–> Your life must really suck
115.
JUDAH
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
————–@Complx
————–All that being said, it’s good that you appreciate your man and you
————–understand loyalty. Good for you and him.
116.
Holloway
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
THIS WILL BE MY FINAL COMMENT TO YOU MY FRIEND. AS A BLACK MAN, AND A HETEROSEXUAL ONE AT THAT I CAN AND WILL ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE ARE MANY PROBLEMS WITHIN THE BLACK COMMUNITY. HOWEVER, NONE OF THEM ARE AS FRIGHTENING AS PEOPLE WHO CANNOT FULLY INTEGRATE THEMSELVES INTO SOCIETY WHERE CO-EXISTING IS EMBRACED. YOU DONT HAVE TO A TERRORIST TO BE CONSIDERED AN EXTREMIST. THE BEAUTY OF BLACK AMERICA IS OUR BALANCE. OUR ABILITY TO LIVE AMONG THE SAME GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO ONCE ENSLAVED US. OUR ABILITY TO TAKE WHAT WAS ONCE MEANT TO DESTROY US AND USE IT TO OUR ADVANTAGE; TO OUR PROGRESSION. YOU SIR, SEEM TO BE AN EXTREMIST. UNABLE TO LOOK PAST OUR HISTORICAL INJUSTICES AND WOULD SEEM TO MUCH RATHER LIVE IN A SEGREGATED SOCIETY. HOWEVER, NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRY, THAT GOAL WILL NEVER BE ATTAINED. THE REASON IT WONT BE ATTAINED IS BECAUSE OUR ANCESTORS (YOURS AND MINE) UNDERSTOOD WHOLLY THAT LOVE CONQUERS ALL. WHICH IS WHY PEOPLE LIKE DR. KING AND ANDREW YOUNG AND ALL THOSE OF THE “CIVIL” RIGHTS MOVEMENT FLOURISHED. WHICH IS WHY THEY FOUGHT. AND WHICH IS WHY SO MANY OF THEM DIED. I AM SORRY YOU ARE SO UPSET AT WHATEVER IT IS YOU ARE UPSET ABOUT. BUT ONE DOES NOT CREATE CHANGE THROUGH SEPERATION-CHANGE IS CREATED THROUGH INTEGRATION, BALANCE, TOLERANCE, UNDERSTANDING, & FORGIVENESS. IF YOU INDEED LOVE BLACK PEOPLE AS MUCH AS I DO, I SUGGEST THAT GIVE A LITTLE MORE RESECT TO THOSE WHO DIED JUST FOR YOU TO GET ENOUGH EDUCATION TO LEARN HOW TO EVEN USE THE COMPUTER FROM WHICH YOU ARE READING THIS COMMENT.
I CHALLENGE YOU TO TRY IT. SMILE IN THE FACES OF PEOPLE WHO U KNOW HATE YOU AND SEE JUST HOW MUCH FURTHER IN LIFE YOU WILL GO. AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, HOW MUCH MORE BLESSINGS YOU WILL RECEIVE FROM GOD. AND WATCH YOURSELF TURN AN ENEMY INTO AN ALLY. THAT HAS BEEN THE STRENGTH OF THE BLACK RACE—NOT OUR ABILITY TO POINT OUT THE OBVIOUS AND USE IT AS JUSTIFICATION FOR OUR BITTERNESS.
GOD BLESS YOU, HOMIE
-YOUR JEAN SAGGIN, BLACK WOMAN LOVIN, NELSON MANDELA RESPECTIN, WHITE FRIEND HAVIN, ALWAYS SUCCEDIN BROTHER.
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complexndope
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
—>Judah that is the stupidest bunch of crap ever.
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dukesman2000
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
@ Holloway…
I don’t agree with Judah calling Nelson Mandela Satan, but any conscious human being who knows history has to admit when Nelson Mandela was released from prison his direction had changed. Why do you think Winnie divorced him? She couldn’t recognize the man. That wasn’t the man she married; the militant Black Nationalist now reformed Uncle Tom. Once the white man got their hands on him, he was never the same.
Then you turn around and tell the brother to join a cult and kill himself. That’s not right. I have read Judah’s comments many times on this blog and though I may not agree with some of them, one has to admit that the brother’s heart is in the right place. See, the good thing is we know about Uncle Tom Negroes like you. You are like a watch dog. You are only trained to protect the master’s interest. You will not protect you own interest, but anything that you interpret as an attack onto your master or something that will make your master feel uncomfortable you will attack that person or thing with unspeakable ferociousness. The same way you did in your diatribe against Judah. Wise up, Negro, open your eyes so you can recognize the real enemy our struggle for equal rights and justice.
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divainva
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
Smh . This post is all over the damn place .
@ Dukesman you need to stop your shit , because you did the same damn thing to me that Holloway did . You got in your feelings on a previous post and called me all kinds “bitches” . Please .
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Holloway
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
DAMN! IM BEING SINGLED OUT AS AN UNCLE TOM, NOW? MY GOD…(SMH)
SO WHO IS THE ENEMY, THEN? THE WHITE MAN? OR EACH OTHER? I HAVE AND WILL ALWAYS PROTECT THE INTERESTS OF “MAN KIND.” I WILL CONTINUE TO TEACH MY DAUGHTER TO LOVE ALL TYPES OF PEOPLE..BLACK, WHITE, INDIAN, CHINESE OR WHATEVER.
BUT YOU ARE RIGHT..I WAS OUT OF LINE FOR TELLING HIM TO KILL HIMSELF. COMPLETELY OUT OF MY CHARACTER. AND FOR THAT I APOLOGIZE. AND AS HURTFUL IT S TO BE CALLED AN UNCLE TOM (WHICH IS A FIRST) I CAN ONLY CONTINUE TO LIVE MY LIFE IN ACCORDANCE TO WHAT I BELIEVE IS RIGHT FOR ALL PEOPLE. I GUESS WE’LL HAVE TO SEE WHOSE VOICE RESONATES FURTHER AS THE DAYS, MONTHS, AND YEARS GO BY…
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JUDAH
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
———-@116
———-You’re taking this into a whole other zone man. You’re talking about King and
———-those men. Do your research on those men and come back to me. That’s a
———-whole other topic. I can’t even point out how perverse and sad you mindstate
———-is because you did a pretty good job of it in your commentary. You claim to
———-”love” your enemies but you told me to kill myself. I know how you trained
———-coons are, like Dukesman alluded to, like a dog. You’re trained to bark at
———-only certain threats. You went hard over getting the right to wear your pants
———-like a h*mosexual. In your original post, everything that you stated was race-
———-based. Everything. That is because weak-minded negroes like you pull the
———-race card when it suits you, but when it’s time to be real, you bitch up.
———@Complex
———See, lol? I’m an excellent judge of character.
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JUDAH
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
———-@Holloway
———-That wasn’t out of character. You just very rarely come upon people that stir
———-up that emotion in you. I’m beyond used to it, lol. Whether you understand/
———-believe it or not, you have been trained to think a certain way and you have
———-been trained to attack black people that are threats to the white man. Even
———-if you didn’t say anything to me, you still would’ve gotten enraged inside.
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dukesman2000
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
Who is the enemy? Well let’s see, who created this systematic racist structure where as a black man I have to work twice as hard to be considered half as good? Who has instilled the “Willie Lynch Syndrome” in us where we are constantly pitted against each other? If we are to move forward as a people we have to realize that we cannot depend on the white man to solve our problems. He doesn’t have the moral conscience or the aptitude to do so. But we cannot begin to even harbor the thought getting the proverbial monkey off our backs if we are not united. So join the fight brother…we need you!
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complexndope
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
—-> Judah, That comment was intended for your previous response.
—> I’m glad you recognize & undertand my loyalty to my relationship.
—-> and pssst. He’s black. That should’ve won some brownie points with you.
—> It’s all love. I respect you & your opinions.
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Tabby
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
———-believe it or not, you have been trained to think a certain way and you have
———-been trained to attack black people that are threats to the white man.
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concern
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
As for the sagging pants law,I think it is a fade that the young children are going through. I remembered when I was young (14 years old) TLC used to have the big baggy pants, and my friends and I had the baggy Guess pants,too. Now most of us are doctors, teachers, nurses, lawyers, engineers, accountants,and etc.
What the mayor and city councils need to do is to provide classes to teach our black boys(those who they are targeting) how to dress for success,how to communicate,and how to fill out applications for jobs and colleges. To sum it up, how to be successful!!! Then rappers like TI, JayZ, Nas, and the rest of them who the kids look up to need to explain to them that what they are rapping about is fictious. Then they need to provide workshops in big cities to show these young boys how to be men. Most of them do not have a father in the home, and that is all they know. I would rather for them to be learn howing to be a man and take own responsibilities instead of being in jail or fine for a ridiculous law. Our race is already declining, and we need our young black boys to be productive citizen instead of lock up in jail for ten years.
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dukesman2000
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
divainva..
.
I see you are back…You disrespected me in those same post you alluded to and I addressed you appropriately. So what did you expect fo you to call me out my name and I am supposed sit back and have you feel yourself. I am no lamb to be slaughtered. You dis the program and I’ll get at you. No ifs ands or buts!!!!!!!
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Tabby
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
CL and co, where is the rest of my comment? Now it looks crazy… Please don’t tell me ya’ll are on that tip. It happened before. If I were fighting with someone, the whole post would have been posted.. Am I right? People needs not to waste time arguing with each other. Because there is something more sinister and it’s CL.
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divainva
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
@ dukesman , If putting you up on your history is disrespectful then umm, okay . lol. If I remeber correctly you called me a ‘bitch” and didn’t know what the hell you were talking about , but anywho .. proceed on my brother , proceed on …
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dukesman2000
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
divainva….
And you were calling me King the whole time, right. You weren’t slinging any barbs? Come on baby, be nice.
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Holloway
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
DUKE..U ARE RIGHT FROM THE HISTORICAL STANDPOINT, AND I HAVE ALREADY JOINED THAT FIGHT. BUT I WILL FIGHT WHAT I BELIEVE IS THE BEST WAY TO FIGHT IT. AND THAT IS THROUGH FORGIVENESS AND UNIFICATION. NEVER FORGETTING WHAT WAS DONE TO US..BUT ALSO DOING MY BEST TO FOLLOW THE TEACHINGS OF CHRIST…LORD KNOWS IF HE CAN FORGIVE US FOR ALL THAT I HAVE DONE I CAN FORGIVE ANYONE. NO MATTER HOW DIFFICULT IT MAY INITIALLY BE OR HOW ABSURD IT MAY SOUND..
BELIEVE ME, I FIGHT EVERYDAY
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dukesman2000
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
Yeah I hear you but I look at it differently…God only help those who help themselves. And for too long Black people have been calling on God and the funny thing is when the white man is putting the rope around your neck he is calling on the same God you’re calling on. The KKK’s emblem is a cross, they are a Christian outfit. Remember that. But you know what… I hear what you are saying and respect you point of view.
The white man didn’t love this land away from the Indian and he didn’t love us into slavery. So why do you think if we love, forget and forgive it will bring us to glory?
But I hear you…Respect
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uforia
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
****personally i cant stand the sagging but to go this far is ridiculous but if the************people who sag knew where it started maybed they will stop alot of people dont know why or where this started and marion jones needs to finish her sentence
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~*aShLeY*~
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
what tha fuck!!! since when is it a crime to sag ur pants. I dont kno any dude who sag em to the point that his underwear showin cuz ur shirt covers it up….If u dont like it then dont look. It just kills me how they get mad when a nigga dont wanna wear his clothes like carlton banks, but white broads can walk around in lil skirts and shirts with they boobs hangin out lookin like a hooker but its okay? im so sick of these white and phoney black folks tryin to get on black people’s style, nobody told u u couldnt wear bell bottoms and ur shirt half way unbuttoned back in yo day
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TylerNol
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
@ 47 GHO
I think you were referring to my post when you wrote:
“AND IF YOU NOTICE EVERYONE WHO AGREES WITH THE LAWS CREATED FOR SAGGING VOICES AN “OPINION” ON WHY ITS NOT A GOOD LOOK….
ONE PERSON SAID, THESE KIDS NEED TO START DRESSING LIKE SERIOUS ADULTS…”
First of all I didn’t say kids, I said grown-ass men. As for the rest of your post, I think you’re missing the point. The “generational” (as you put it) style being passed down is directly descended from prison. Fine. If you want to walk around attracting attention to your penitentiary style way of dress, and most sadly, thinking, go right ahead. Just stop with the pussy-ass whining when you get profiled. And profiling is a fact of life. Deal with it. They’re locking brothers up for this shit.
Why?
BECAUSE THEY CAN. AND THEY WILL.
Are they wrong? Yes. Do I care? No. Why? Because if ignorant asses want to wave a red flag in front of the bull, be prepared to get gored. Period.
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WHO
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
I agree with Dukes, I am a human being and I have layers. I am not some divine being. People say, “Oh, you should forgive like God” But newsflash: I’m not God! But I also respect Hollo’s opinion!
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karo
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
what nas is doing and whoopi goldberg has done by making that white women cry on national tv is playing right into the hands of the same folks who intend to use white guilt as a way get get mccain in the white house. FOX NEWS relishes the fact that a uneducated rapper has them in his sights. and then you have the all-american lily white; hot dogs, apple pies and chevolet’s [white women ] elizabeth hasslebach boo-hoo’n. black folks you can’t make this up. take a page from the cacuasians —— ” THEY DON’T GIVE A DAMN”. and the white folks and [fox] are using you blind raged negro’s, who will bite at the first thing that has anything to do about race. keeping the subject out front so obama can lose this election. black folks you ignorance is unpresidented. don’t ya think its time to flip the script and not give a damn what them race bigots say and think. cause white folks sho don’t give a damn what you think and how you feel. DAMN THIS CRAP and the trap you people ARE FALLING FOR LIKE A BUNCH OF ; whatever sh## i’am tired of trying to get you people to see your’e getting took, hood-winked and bamboozled. question is it the TV cameras and the face time on it you seek?
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Holloway
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
RESPECT, DUKE
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frank
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
Nas is an idiot!
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Aisha
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
The sagging pants law is a racially motivated attack on personal freedom. The fact that many people hate the look of sagging pants (myself included) is irrelevant. The point is that if they’ll do this, where will it end? Today it’s sagging pants, tomorrow it will be wearing dreadlocks, wearing earrings that are too big, bright colors, etc. This is just another excuse to harass and imprison black men.
The government, whether local or federal, has NO RIGHT to dictate how people dress unless they are coming outside naked and violating public decency laws. Don’t let your personal opinion on sagging pants blind you to what’s going on here: We are quickly headed in the direction of a police state.
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Original Truth (I don't care if ya get mad)
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
I have to agree racial profiling isn’t something new and this isn’t new to find a reason to put young black men in jail but we have to accept responsibility as well everything is not the white man’s fault. We need to create better standards for our young men. As a parent I would never allow my child to go out of the house with saggy pants or backwards hat. So this isn’t a fashion statement it’s a slave prison mentality… pants sagging around your waist makes you walk like you are in shackles or have you not thought of that while you call it a fashion statement… again I call it gay prison mentality any which way I think about it when I see a boy with saggy pants walking like a duck and holding his pants up with his hand instead of a belt…
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Aisha
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
Creating higher standards for young black men ( which I certainly agree with) has nothing to do with this issue. Again, you can’t let your personal feelings cloud the issue. The point is that an outside person can determine what THEY feel is appropriate for you to wear and choose to jail and/or fine you based on that. That person or organization is making a choice for everyone based on their own personal biases and prejudices. Day by day we are losing our freedoms. I support the ACLU 100% on this one.
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MEE
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
Judah you’re an Isrealite
I don’t know how I didn’t catch on to that earlier all of your post makes sense now. I’ll pray for you brotha. It’s funny you’re always so quick to point out how “programmed or trained” everyone elses way of thinking is but you don’t notice just how much yours is.
Bye the way the sagging pants law is absolutely ridiculous.I hate to see these young and grown ass men walking around with their pants down to their ankles but sending someone to jail for sagging is foolish. Just another way for them to get young brothers behind bars as others have said.
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Maje$ty
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
There is nothing cool about “saggy jeans” on men. As a man, I find it to be shameful that our youth is wearing their clothing like this. The truth of the matter is that this style is NOT for “REAL” men. If you’re a “REAL” man then you should pull ya damn pants up and not show ya ass.
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DAMNSHAME
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
tHEY ARE JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT ANY WAY TO CREATE MORE BLACK CRIMINALS.. JUST SAD.. HORRIBLE… AND PEOPLE SUPPORTED THIS LAW? I CAN’T BELIEVE IT. I HAVEN’T SEEN ONE WHITE PERSON WITH SAGGING PANTS GET PULLED OVER, BUT I SEE YOUNG BLACK BOYS, PLAYING AND BEING HARRASSED BY POLICE….
I SEE THOSE GRUNGY NEW AGE WHITE BOYS WEARING THE SAME SAGGING PANTS, AND NO ONE IS SAYING ANYTHING TO THEM… WE ARE JUST CREATING CRIMINALS, AND PUTTING OUR BOYS IN JAIL.. WHO LET THIS PASS? SHAME ON YOU!
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Nuagenda77
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
Saggin in gay. Everyone knows that style started in prisons. It ain’t cool, so the new law is good.
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Nuagenda77
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
But going to jail because your underwear or buttcrack is showing is ridiculous!
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Ladycole
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
93 days for saggy pants? smh.
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moxpoe1
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
uuuuh, the way you chose to wear and what you chose to wear are an expression of who you are or want to represent.
This is a freedom that is outlined in the bill of rights. Where are the civil groups, civil pokespeople, or the civil liberties union.
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missbrandy
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
while i dont agree with the style of sagging pants, i feel it is ridiculous to harass and/ or charge someone for wearing their pants in a particular way. not only does the style make us look bad as people-like it or not, you represent your race when you go out (and i do realize that is ONLY if you are black), it is sloppy and does not do anything in a positive manner for the people who wear it and that is regardless of color.
on the other side, i think it is an excuse-or will be-for police to continue to profile and confront innocent men and boys on the street. there are other things the tax payer dollars could go toward, like creating community programs for the youth that actually make a difference. then again, being proactive would be smart and we are much better at being reactive here.
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igbo man
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
@Frank. Your inteligence is overpowering.
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Christianana
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
The law makes no sense. How are they gonna lift up your shirt to see if your butt is exposed? Either you see it or you dont! thats like lifting a girls skirt up to see if she is wearing panties. And I find it shamefull that they can let all these white celebrity ho’s out of prison (Kloe Kardashian, Lohan, Nicole Ritchie) who ENDANGERED LIVES with drunk driven because of “overcrowding”. Yet they can arrest men for having a loose fit style for up to a yr in prison. How assbackwards is that?!
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TS
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
I’m sorry, but this is another way of locking black men up. Whats next, jailing our men for not combing their heads, or for sporting locks?
And for the poster that stated that Judah might be an israelite, thanks because you took the words right out my mouth.
Although king makes some valid points on here, I noticed the comments he makes about black women, even when the posts have NOTHING to do with women in general. Most Israelites, not all, have a huge dislike for black women. They fail to see their own flaws or the flaws of other black men in the community, but they are quick to talk some shit about what a black woman is or isn’t doing
I see them ALL the time in Downtown Brooklyn, Fulton St. and on Union Square.
People, make sure to cop Nas album!!!
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Ice
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
Everyone seems to be missing the bigger picture with the new Saggin law, just another way for the government to keep and put black men in jail just like they did with the drug laws. Imagine your 17 year old brother being locked up for a year for his pants sagging too low, and he gets out and now he can’t find a job. He has to hustle, he gets a girl pregnant, now he really has to hustle because he still can’t find a job with a criminal record, now he’s back in jail and he can’t feed his seed or his woman or even take care of himself and he has an even more serious charge, now he really can’t get a job and the cycle repeats itself and we sit around wondering where all the black men at and why they all in jail and black men ain’t shit and they should pull their pants up… Fuck that and fuck the government and wake the fuck up….. Noone’s passing laws about these white kids and their tight ass “punk” rock jeans where u can see the imprint of their pathetic penis.
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MIND SEX
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 /
It is true that people have the freedom and civil liberty to express themselves and wear what they want.But black people make the mistake of thinking that they are free and that their not in bondage anymore.They mistakenly think that they have the same personal freedoms and civil liberties that other races enjoy and they should have them, but they do not.If you are black, you can`t move around in America and do what other races normally do, unrestrained and unrestricted, without a care in the world. Sean Bell, did`nt even have the basic god given right, civil liberty and freedom to attend his own bachelor`s party without getting murdered by the police.America,Don Imus,Fox News,Rush Limbaugh,etc.etc.,pays employees to watch and observe black people and their culture, so that they can target and find something to degrade them with.So black people are far from free in America.The Feds watch and keep black politicians and people under surveillance and city police departments have special units that watch rap artists. We are being carefully watched and observed.And if you are wearing sagging pants, to society, you make yourself look openly defiant, like a prison inmate who`s trying to resist being molded by the system.You just give law enforcement a reason to target you and create more unfair laws to lock you up or murder you in a hail of bullets,because you are definitely being watched.
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marquita
Wednesday, July 23, 2008 /
I’m all for personal style, but I just wish these cats would get a clue about how ridculous they look with their pants tied below their butt with a belt. They can’t even walk straight! Then there are the fools who don’t use a belt and they have to walk around holding their 3 sizes to big pants up with their hand. Why won’t this fad just die already?
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Shelby
Wednesday, July 23, 2008 /
Okay…I see you Nas, doing good things, I wonder will Fox discuss this on their shows (doubt it)….hopefully CNN and MSNBC (my fav) will taunt them about it….better yet I hope Keith Olbermann will (since he hates Fox)
okay the sagging thing is nothing but a punishment mainly for blacks (lets face it)…..I can’t believe that they are blaming the sagging on why they are not getting business…..plus is it fair that (being honest here) that old white (and I am sure old black men) are placing this law on the younger generation…….whatever this is stupid and as police over there I know they are thinking that their job sucks because they are now passing out fines for sagging…..I can see if you are sagging and do not have a shirt on (or even a white beater) and that being a problem but not sagging and you have a shirt on then it is not the police business….whatever, they need to spend their money and prercious time on somthing else in Chicago…like…I don’t know……how about CRIME…..since everytime they talk about Chicago it is about either Obama or crime
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Kellz
Wednesday, July 23, 2008 /
I never supported FOX news. I always thought their segments were bias and that’s SO unprofessional. I want no part of that and I’m happy others are taking a stand. On the Jones issue - I feel sorry for her having to do jail time while other athletes get millions BUT she shouldn’t have lied. POINT BLANK! About the sagging thing, I don’t think you should be told what to wear BUT there is NOTHING cute about seeing a child’s OR grown man’s undies and/or ass. NOTHING! They (US) gave you DECADES to fix this problem and you’ll still showed your ass (literally) so now you have to pay the price. Anyone who thinks this is stupid should look at the stupidity your own people have kept up for these last 20-30 YEARS! Now that’s what I call “stupid!”
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TAL
Wednesday, July 23, 2008 /
Okay, Nas is one whom I respect for many reasons. but mostly because he stands for what he believes in no matter what the situation is, much praise to him…..Marion Jones made a mistake, it was a bad mistake and the wrong decision, but we are all human, I really don’t have much to say about that because I am not that interested in it. But what I am interested in is 93 days to 1 year in jail for sagging of your pants???? Come on, be real……jails are already over crowded, what’s next?
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Bohwe
Wednesday, July 23, 2008 /
Can black men stop bringing up their sexual organ , as a threat to other men’s malehood, or a way to get women. First, of all it’s sad that one would glorify in that, and not their intelligence, and another thing, a man is not going to be threatened in the least by a man that can only offer a woman a sex organ, especially when he owns everything.
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lauraisthick
Wednesday, July 23, 2008 /
This is my first time ever writing on a blog. But that law is crazy. Who are they to tell people how to dress. Now people are going to jail for saggy pants that crazy. I dont want my tax dollars being wasted on that. Thats not a crime . I personally dont care how a dude dress but if they start with sagging pant soon they be telling dudes to cut off their dreds and how their share should look. Give it a few years if that law dont get cut they would move on to dudes hair.
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Ura
Wednesday, July 23, 2008 /
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krizdj
Wednesday, July 23, 2008 /
ok are they gonna crack down on the cable guy or plumber or fat white dude with sagging pants as well?
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Kent
Wednesday, July 23, 2008 /
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andy
Wednesday, July 23, 2008 /
This UNCLE TOM GARBAGE that they call black leadership are doing their best to destroy an entire generation of young black men just like the massah wants. It is all part of the plan. While everyone stares at the Trojan Obama our youth will be forced into slavery, and THEIR IS NO PUBLIC OUTCRY ON THEIR BEHALF. NONE AT ALL. The dirty lesbian man hater oprah winfrey is behind a lot of it. She fools no one.
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andy
Wednesday, July 23, 2008 /
the fools on this site apparently don’t know that “freedom of expression” is a basic civil rights granted to all americans, BUT BLACK FOOLS ARE SO ANXIOUS TO IMPRESS RASCIST THEY THEY ASK THAT OURS BE TAKEN AWAY. HOW DUMB IS THAT??
AND THEN THE JEWISH ACLU HAS TO SPEAK UP FOR OUR YOUNG BLACK MEN, WHEN NO N*GGAH IN POWER CARES ENOUGH TO DO IT. HOW DUMB IS THAT??? WHEN RASCIST ARE DONE JAILING OUR YOUTH, ALL THESE DUMB N WORDS WITH MONEY WILL BE PUT BACK IN THAT SAME GHETTO HOLE THEY CRAWLED OUT OF.
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andy
Wednesday, July 23, 2008 /
I see you’re planning some protest about civil rights for black people, and all the while you are doing absolutely NOTHING about a sagging pants law that violates the civil rights (freedom of expression) of our black young males. The JEWISH ACLU has to stand up for dumb negroes who beg for dirty laws that punish our young men for being children, and exercising the rights that MLK died for them to have.
8,000 white folks just showed their bare azzes to the entire world, but it is OK because you want a double standard, just like in Jim Crow ,for black people. YOU beg for it, you support it, and you condemn none of the black uncle tom idiots who push for a law that will start the migration of our youth into the prison system so that they can be slaves for life. Once they’re in the system, everyone knows they don’t get out.
I remember in the 1960s when my brother had the highest ACT score EVER MADE in the history of our black school, and I remember how one powerful teacher refused to allow him to be valedictorian because of his huge afro, BUT HE WASN’T A FOOL ENOUGH TO GO TO WHITE FOLKS AND ASK THEM TO DESTROY HIS LIFE BY JAILING HIM.
THE NATURE OF YOUTH IS TO BE REBELLIOUS. THEY WON’T PULL UP THEIR PANTS AND THEY WILL GO TO JAIL, BECAUSE IT IS THE NATURE OF YOUTH TO FIGHT FOR THEIR RIGHTS. IN THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT, THE YOUNG MARCHED ALONGSIDE THEIR PARENTS, BUT DUMB UNCLE TOM NEGROES OF TODAY WILL BE ON THE OTHER SIDE MARCHING WITH THE RASCIST, AS OUR CHILDREN ARE LED TO THE GALLOWS. I HOPE YOU PEOPLE ROT IN HELL. THE WORSE THING ON THIS PLANET IS A FOOL WITH AN EDUCATION.
THE WORLD WILL BE STARING AT YOUR TROJAN HORSE OBAMA AS THEY ARE LED TO THEIR DEMISE, JUST LIKE THE WHITE RASCIST PLANNED IT. AND WHEN EVERYTHING IS OVER AND DONE THE WHITE MAN WILL POINT A FINGER AND SAY, ‘THEY DID IT TO THEMSELVES.’ AND COME OUT SMELLING LIKE A ROSE.
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KAY1
Wednesday, July 23, 2008 /
this is more than ridiculous! are people really feelin that its okay for people to be arrested for wearing clothes however they feel. this has got nothing to do with decency. I’m not a fan of sagging trousers myself. but giving someone a crimanal record for clothing!! i wonder if its time we start doning more to protect our civil liberties!!!!!!!!!!!! this is a definition of foolishness- this is an example of how the state is diverting our taxes in order to carry out a continued suppression of a particular group of people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Aries
Wednesday, July 23, 2008 /
Fox News: Something definately needs to be done about FOX. It has nothing to do with them “picking” on the Obama’s. It has to do with the over all disrespectful antics that they do and try to act like oops my bad it was an accident.
Baggy Pants: I was just talking to my mom about this topic yesterday. IMO I am definately sick of seeing these young and grown men wearing their pants at a level that at any moment they could fall to their ankles. HOWEVER who is hurting? If they think that showing off their boxers isnt down right tacky then let them be. If their in a place of business then it is up to the owner of that establishment to set the uniform regulations. And if the owner doesnt see anything wrong with it and it bothers you then simply dont go there anymore. I feel that 1. This will just be opening up a can of worms for people to pin point anything they dont like. if their going to fine baggy pants, then fine females who wear low plunging shirts or extra mini skirts, fine guys who wear all black goth looking clothes, because it makes people uncomfortable. 2. I am definately not the type of person to pull out the race card but in this type of situation this will just be another legal reason to harrass young black men.
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Tasha
Wednesday, July 23, 2008 /
Ok, If I’m saying something somebody has already said I apologize in advance but this saggy pants issue seems unconstitional to me I don’t personally like it but if dude wants to wear his pants that way that’s his right. Is it me or is this another way to put our black men behind bars. Isn’t there something else they can focus on like actual crime. Kudos to NAS for actually taking action and not just talking about it.
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JUDAH
Wednesday, July 23, 2008 /
———–@143
———–Damn, you figured me out. What gave it away? The name? Lol, in all
———–seriousness, the reason why you couldn’t deduce something as obvious as
———–that is indicative of the mental stupor that you’re in. I’ve reiterated numerous
———–times on this site that the blacks, hispanics, and native americans of the
———–captivity are the descendants of the Israelites. No disrespect to you, but you
———–can’t pray for me because the god that you’re praying to is not the Most High
———–of the Bible. I’m into truth, a real thought process, and knowledge, not the
———–hearsay and emotionalism that infects the black community. If I’m
———–programmed, then show me how. Read over your second paragraph where
———–you state your feelings on black men wearing sagging jeans and it should
———–show you why I have no respect for your thought process. You’re simple.
———–Beyond that, you’re not really concerned with black men getting arrested or
———–harassed by the police. This is why people like you obsess over my
———–commentary. The truth hurts and it cuts you.
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JSTREET
Wednesday, July 23, 2008 /
Proud of Nas
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Dejah
Wednesday, July 23, 2008 /
~~~~~~~~~~ I’m glad that they are inforcing the saggy pants law.. They need to ~~~~bring it down over here in Miami because it is getting ridiculous.. These boys ~~~actually wear a bealt with their pants and it still be sagging past their thigh.. That ~~ish is nasty.
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MAI03
Wednesday, July 23, 2008 /
Theres an interesting article about the word Saggin and when you spell it backwards, and what saggin pants means in prison. heres the link, check it out. It’s very thought provoking.
http://notthead.wordpress...iggas-pull-your-pants-up/
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Goat Rydah 357
Wednesday, July 23, 2008 /
Big up to NAS!
Hmmmm and by the way….SAGGIN spelled backwards is NIGGAS. Now go pull those pants up and conduct yourselves accordingly!!
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FAMUFlyGUY
Wednesday, July 23, 2008 /
O My Goodness!!! Lick nutz. I WISH a cop wuld stop me bout my pants being “too low”. Cause not ONLY will he give me a ticket/jail time for the pants but for cursing his stupid ass out. Who the HELL are you to tell me how to dress. Your eyes dont have to be fixated on my ass. If u dont like it DON’T LOOK!!! Shit, i’m offended by alot of ppl’s outfits, but i dont think they shuld get a ticket. WHAT ABOUT SHOWING CLEAVAGE??? are girls gon’ get tickets now for showing boobies? Get the FUCK OUTTA HERE!!!!
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Z.c.K.
Wednesday, July 23, 2008 /
yeaa && tha way my lil brother wear his pants is gonna help fight crime, stop global warming, end hunger, end poverty, end racism, stop men from beating on their wives, get crackheads off the streets, and help cure aids??? People be real, its more important things going on in the word besides this ish.
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Suzy Canadian Superstarr
Wednesday, July 23, 2008 /
Nas and Nelly were on Much Music and MTV in Toronto this week and I agree with Nas he said he calls them Sly News lmao I agree they are 2 damn shady and racist..and its not even undrercover SMH
They are doing the same thing in Canada with the saggy pants thing I think it’s stupid they are clearly trying to target a group of ppl..black inner city youth..well white kids be rockin them too but w.e. I think if your ass is hanging out thats different but saggy pants are like culture for youth now in music and its hip hop! They just aint got nothin better 2 to clearly if they want to arrest and fine ppl for wearing their clothes a certain way ..what happened to its a free country?
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mamasita
Thursday, July 24, 2008 /
Aww…Marion…I know steroids is illegal but I feel really bad for her.
The butt crack law-im glad about it,hopefully they’ll create a law for butt cracks w/thongs showing too lol.
Fox news…they’ve really been getting out of hand w/the recent comments during news segments. I stopped watching them when they didn’t do coverage on missing black female- Stepha Henry in Miami, but instead filming Paris Hilton’s house while she was in jail. Tsk tsk
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