Watch as President George W. Bush ducks two shoes thrown at him by an Iraqi reporter during a press conference in the Iraqi prime minister’s office to mark the signing of a security agreement.
“This is the farewell kiss, you dog,” the man shouted in Arabic.
Bush wasn’t hit, and announced “I’m okay” after the incident. He added, “All I can report is it is a size 10.”
According to CNN, Hurling shoes at someone, or sitting so that the bottom of a shoe faces another person, is considered an insult among Muslims.
@Stopit
Hell yes.
180.
stopit,
lET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION…HOW MANY AMERICANS SAID THEY HATED IRAQIS? I HAVEN’T REALLY HEARD ANY AMERICANS SAY THEY SPECIFICALLY HATE AL QUEDA. IN FACT AMERICANS BECAME SO PREJUDICE WHERE IF YOU WERE MUSLIM YOU WERE ULTIMATELY CONSIDERED A TERRORIST. IF YOU DRESSED LIKE A MUSLIM AMERICAN AND WAS GETTING ON A PLANE YOU WERE TAKEN THROUGH EXTRA PRECAUTIONS OF SECURITY, LOOKED AS FUNNY, AND EVEN HAD PEOPLE REQUEST A SEAT CHANGE OR REQUEST THAT YOU’D ME REMOVED FROM THE PLANE BECAUSE THEY FELT UNCOMFORTABLE. YES THAT’S WHAT AMERICANS DID AND STILL DO THIS DAY. I’M NOT MUSLIM, BUT IT WAS EASY TO SEE WHAT IDIOTIC PEOPLE WERE DOING.
IF IRAQI MILITARY WERE TO COME OVER HERE CALLING THEMSELVES “STRAIGHTENING” OUT THINGS HOW WOULD YOU HONESTLY FEEL? THERE’S PLENTY OF COUNTRIES THAT HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THEIR LEADERS EVEN THE US. SO EVERY TIME A BLACK MAN IS WRONFULLY KILLED BY SOME OFFICERS, SHOULD OTHER MILITARY COME BARGING OVER HERE BLOCKING OUR STREETS, RAPING OUR WOMEN, KILLING CHILDREN, WHILE THEY KILL OFF EVERY DIRTY OFFICER THEY CAN FIND? THERE’S A REASON WHY COUNTRIES ARE SEPERATED, HAVE DIFFERENT BELIEFS, AND LAWS. TRUTH IS I’M SURE THE US CAN CARE LESS ABOUT “IRAQI FREEDOM” WE ARE OVER THERE FOR OIL PROTECTION AND TO STEAL. REMEMBER WE WERE IN DARFUR TO STOP “GENOCIDE” BUT THE NEWS REPORTER WAS SO QUICK TO CUT OFF THEIR PRESIDENT AS HE WENT ON LIVE TV COMPLAINING ABOUT THE AMERICAN TROOPS STEALING NATURAL RESOURCES WHICH THEY USE FOR TRADING?
@STOPIT
Ummm…when the police run rampant in our neighborhoods and grab black men off the street dont we walk around saying f@$% the police?
How are Iraqis suppose to feel about US soldiers when they are doing this exact same thing?
lol @ people saying it was disrespectful. It was suppose to be. It should have been the blood of all those who died because of his lies. He would have drowned.
Americans need to keep their asses in America. Why the hell are soldiers over there any damn way? They need to protect our borders if they want to “protect” something.
@ HONEST CRITIC lol
I think we were typing at the same time.
Dayum, CL wassup with the lack of posts? Geez! I guess I gotta comment on this topic then…
It’s too bad the Arab guy didn’t have a gun. Why am I not surprised @ Judah’s commentary, LOL. Even with that said, I do agree with everything Judah said. The reference to the Nazi’s was a bit extreme, but I do understand your point.
My gosh..what has this site become?? I thought this was a celebrity gossip page with a mix of policitics and current affairs? It now seems to be A POLITICAL & CURRENT AFFAIRS blog with a HINT – and i mean a HINT of celebrity news. What is going on? News is ridiculously slow…they have been bits n bobs happening in the world of black celebrity in the last 3 days, but all you can report on is Bush almost getting hit by a shoe??? oh boy….
Mandy,
lol great minds think alike.
London Chick,
please calm down and get a life. This site is ran by humans who also have things to do with their lives. There will be a Rihanna post soon up for you to hate on as I constantly see you do everytime there’s one there. Give these people a break maybe they are working on some finals, you know getting something called an education. This site is very well rounded as it’s viewers so if you don’t like a post then don’t tap on it.
@Judah,
you know based on your comments I can tell you’re an intelligent brother. However, when you start speaking about a lifestyle that you know nothing about I have to correct you. It’s people like you that make others call my husband a murderer. My hubby just finished a 15 month tour in Iraq, so does this make him a house negro, or a slave” or a murderer”. As Jayla so eloquently put it, not everyone who wears the uniform is any of those above things. Sometimes people sign up for the military as a way of paying for school, or to help their families financially. So are they wrong for wanting that? I mean in this current economy, having a job where you can’t get laid off, the healthcare is free and your rent is paid for, sure sounds good to me! So, look here’s my point: you spit out all of this rhetoric on the history of america/military/and black men/ Sorry to say Boo, but that argument is stale. I’ve heard it a million times before. It just sounds like you’re spitting out old gibberish and you present your argument like its religion. What you don’t take into account is this, the military, like anything else is a job. When soldiers get sent to Iraq it’s not as simple as saying ” I don’t want to go” or “No sir, I’m not going to invade that Iraqi’s house.” They take orders. Just like your boss at your job tells you what to do, their bosses do the same. It always irritates me how people love to talk shit about the military but they have no idea about the day to day ish that we go through, or just the intimate details about our lives. Look, I’m not an electrical engineeer, but I can read all kinds of articles detailing what they do, and the history of their chosen profession, but does that make me an expert in their field? Does my liberal arts educated opinion matter…ummm no. So all I’m saying is, you’re very adept at looking up articles to back up your own point of view, but to be a true intellectual you must see things from all different sides. So next time you want to argue against the military do you research, talk to someone who lives that lifestyle and maybe your opinions would change. Though I doubt you’ll do it, you can hit me up,anytime at m.nic.stephens@gmail.com.
Man I need to go bail that guy out so he can play for the 49ers for real cuz he got and arm on him and if he can throw shoes like that I can’t even imagine what he can do to a football. Too bad Bush dodged them maybe getting hit would’ve knocked some sense upside his head about the war and the economy that he isn’t doing anything right lol
@Mikela
No disrespect to you sis, but not only did you not correct me, you agreed with me. Furthermore you don’t have a leg to stand on in regards to this issue because your entire stance is based on your personal relationship with your husband. The issue is the war, not your husband. This is why I referred to the American troops as modern day Nazis, and I stand by that premise because they follow orders based on a belief in their leadership. This is why people have the nerve to call these men “heroes”. A “hero” is a man who leads, not follows. When the Nazi soldiers told the Jewish tribunals that they were “just following orders”, they were still found guilty by association and hung or gassed. The whole premise of “I support the troops but not the war” is retarded. That’s like supporting the bullet but not the gun.
If you, as a man or woman, do not understand or cannot justify why you are sent on a mission to kill, and you still do so, you are more culpable than the man who gave the order. The U.S. military is voluntary, for now, so you blacks that choose to be the white man’s sword are just as much to blame as him. If I’m given an order, it is up to me as a man to follow through on that order assuming that it doesn’t go against what I know to be wrong. In addition to that, I shouldn’t even be a member of an organization or body that I know has never been anything other than evil. If that line of thinking doesn’t strike a cord with you, you must be 1) a sellout 2) amoral 3) In agreement with a wicked order, which makes you wicked. America is an amoral society, so the real issue is, do these soldiers even know right from wrong? That is the question. I mean please, even Dukesman, as obtuse an ass as he is, was forced to stand down on this issue once he realized that he exposed himself as a mass murderer who killed indiscrminately out of fear. Now, if a black man signs up for the armed forces and says that he felt like he had no other option and just killed to survive, and he realizes that this society is off kilter, then it just is what it is. He has to take it up with the Most High. I can’t judge him on that. Just don’t come at me with this, “He’s a hero in a uniform” bullsh*t. Again, the fact that you justify the mass anarchy that has been spread by U.S. (Roman) forces because the “rent is free” shows the mentality that you’re dealing with, and why I made the comment I made earlier about MOST black women being good house negroes. Whoever supplies your bread is who you will serve because many of you will follow whoever is in power. I’m not mad at that because that is the essential nature of the woman, to follow the provider. The real issue is, unfortunately, that the black man has taken on the nature of the woman here in America because he has been mentally destroyed. That is another topic.
As far as black history being “stale”, lol, history is only stale to one who enjoys being ignorant and finds it too laborious to examine the past to understand why we’re in the situation that we’re in now. Again, that’s more for the brothers to stand up, examine, and do, so I expect a comment like that from most sisters. Sis, I’m not interested in knowing the “in’s and out’s” of army life. I know who and what the armed forces are about based on what they’ve always been about and what the scriptures tell me they are about. It’s 2008, and even the white man cannot quantify nor qualify why he is in those lands, so I know that no negro can. You all take your cue from him and regurgitate the nonsense that he feeds you. Nations have standing armies and spend billions of dollars per year on weapons to START wars, not bring peace.
@ “Honest” chick. LOL. Not very honest after all, because ive never written a “hating” repsonse on a Rihanna post. In fact, I rarely post AT ALL – just read. Im not here to comment on what people are doing in their spare time (i.e. getting an education). Thats fantastic…im getting one too. HOWEVER, in my spare time i like to browse blogs – concrete loop being one of them. As a regular reader, am i not allowed to express an opinion about the site?? I am not, never have and never will personally attack the writers….Im simply expressing how Ive felt about the site over the last month or so. At the end of the day it is a BLOG which is suppose to provide some form of entertainment. Again, it’s a BLOG…dont take it so seriously love.
London chick,
iF IT WASN’T YOU THEN i APOLOGIZE FOR YOU HAVE AN IDENTICAL TWIN THAT LIKES TO START MUCH TROUBLE IN MANY OF THE POSTS ON CL THAT CARRIES YOUR EXACT NAME. WHAT A COINCIDENCE. AS FAR AS “NOT TAKING THINGS SERIOUSLY” I FIND IT FUNNY THAT YOU COME INTO A POLITICAL POST TO TALK ABOUT YOUR COMPLAINT OF CL NOT POSTING ENOUGH OF WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE. IF THERE’S A PROBLEM WITH WHAT THEY POST THEN TALK TO THE HOST OF THE SITE WHO WILLINGLY PROVIDES HER EASY ACCESS EMAIL ADDRESS. YOUR INTIAL “OPINION” WAS POINTLESS. IN FACT IT IS WHAT IT IS: A COMPLAINT THAT IS OFFENSIVE. EXPRESS YOUR CONCERNS VIA EMAIL BECAUSE LIKE I SAID BEFORE CL PROVIDES FOR DIFFERENT READERS WHICH IS WHY THERE’S A TEAM OF PEOPLE WHO POST DIFFERENT ARTICLES. IF THEY ARE NOT PROVIDING WHAT YOU WANT THEN BROWSE THROUGH ANOTHER SITE AND COME BACK ANOTHER DAY WHEN YOU ARE FULFILLED. BY YOU COMING INTO THE BLOG N COMPLAINED THEN THERE’S SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE TAKING PERSONAL AND SERIOUS NOT ME. ANYWAYS ENJOY YOUR DAY AND EXCUSE THE CAPS. IT IS NOT FOR SCREAMING PURPOSES.
JUDAH,
IT’S CRAZY HOW ON POINT YOU ARE WITH MANY THINGS.
LMAO
@ Judas,
I thought your belief is that the Nazis were a Devine Intervention sent to wipe out the imposters who stole black people’s identity. So how come all of a sudden the Nazis are bad. Make up your mind. And oh, it depends on what lens you are looking through, it can also be argued that Joshua was a mass murderer, but through religious lens he is a great warrior. Like Joshua, I see myself as a great warrior. Do you agree? lol
@Daisy
Lol, most of the Nazis were so-called Jews, but that is another topic above your “pay grade”. The Nazis were always bad, as are the U.S. forces, and particularly zombied out ni**ers like yourself that blasted children based on the orders of that “good white commanding officer”. Now, as I’ve said, I have no problem with the killing. War is about killing to achieve your goals, and I don’t have a problem with war either. Thirdly, I also don’t have a problem with the white man waging war. This is what he was put on the earth to do. Wage war and cause confusion. My issue is with negroes that 1) fight for him 2) try to justify it 3) actually try to paint themselves as “heroes” when they have no idea why they are there when even the white man doesn’t have his story stright. He’s not as slick a devil as he used to be.
Joshua’s prowess as a warrior, as well as David, Samson, etc. is predicated on why they killed, which is the issue. You have no idea why you killed; and you were, and still are, brainwashed into thinking that the Iraqis are “your enemy”, lol. They are the white man’s enemy because everyone is the white man’s enemy unless he can rule them. It has nothing to do with “religion” because “religion” is philosophy and has no historical relevance or base. The word religion comes from a Greek word which means to “hold back or restrain”. Now if you had any knowledge and stopped selling wolf tickets, you’d see that the people in the church system (as well as you) practice “religion”, because the entity that they worship has no historical relevance as a deity. That’s another topic. The Bible on the other hand, which is not a religious book, is the most accurate historical treatise in the history of mankind and is used as a primary resource in all archaeological digs. The same reason why the Lord ordered his soldiers to kill the Canaanites is the same reason that America will be destroyed and the people who have that mark of the Beast on them. America approves of all the same things as the Canaanites and the ancient Egyptians because those kingdoms are America’s spiritual forefathers (Rev 11:8). Sodom was a Canaanite (African) city. This is why you front like Malcolm X on one post and then you want Obama to bring everyone together and your god is a god of “all love” on another post. Then on the next one, Obama is going to send whites to the cotton field, lol.
@Judas,
You are funny. You are hung up on a joke I made about all “white people meeting me at the cotton field, 6 AM sharp, for orientation.” That joke was funny…lol. Do I really need to explain to you, again why I and every black person, who did, voted for Obama. I have explained it to you more than 3 times already, but you still haven’t grasped the significance. Every time I try to raise the level of discourse, you resort to your cesspool tactics of ignoring the facts, so you can lean on your own misunderstanding and make yourself think you are espousing something insightful or Zen-like. You never heard me praise myself as a hero on this or any post. I do not front like I am Malcolm X but yes I am not afraid or ashamed to let it be known that I am student of The Right Honorable Minister Malcolm X’s teachings. Maybe you should leave your cult of “butt pirates” and do some research on Malcolm X’s work. I am more than happy to loan you some of my books and research material, because it seems like the only book you read is the Bible. However, man shall not live by bread alone; you have to broaden your horizon. It is then and only then you will be transformed from the ideologue that you are into a pragmatist.
@ Everyone.. but mainly Judah and Dukes.
Ok seriously, all of you are bugging the F*CK outta me. Mainly Judah and Dukesman. The both of you are arguing in circles. Dukesman, clearly you can not argue with judah, your losing the battle and you keep hopping from one subject to another so much that your not even arguing. Your trying to appear intelligent and its not working. Im sure your not a stupid dude, but intellectually your no competition.
Now for you Judah, for one you are saying the military is an evil entity and any black person that works for it is a sellout. Why is that so? You hinge so much of your argument on history so what about this tidbit. Why did newly freed slaves work in the military? They fought to free themselves. Were they sellouts? Were they evil by association? they worked for the white mans benefit as you say since the civil war was a political move they had to stop the south from ceding the union because they couldnt lose the cash crops. That actually makes a lot of sense and i cant fault that logic, however does that make the blacks that fought in that war evil? they fought a two front war. (liberty and the white mans profit) They followed orders, and did what they had to do. That makes them evil by default even though they fought for reasons that had nothing to do with the white man, with your logic they are evil period because they fought in the white mans army. Now moving on to draw analogies with now.
The “War on terrorism” I fully believe is front for lil bush to fulfill daddies legacy (the whole goal in my opinion was to get saddam, as big bush tried to do when he was in office) but anyway the correlation is that the black people over there fighting now, are there because of orders. They are not fighting for the white man, but rather the ideals. The idea that terrorism should not be allowed to pervade and that justice and peace should be spread by any means neccesary. Yes there are ulterior motives, name one war were there werent ulterior motives. The main idea of this war though, is that terrorist in the middle east attacked the U.S. and they need to pay (not the iraqi people and its wrong that so many innocent are dying but that is war and terrorist are located there) I like to believe that soldiers fight for a symbol that is freedom and justice, yes the people in power skew that for their own personal gain(oil in this case and my personal belief for saddam as well), but that is not what soldiers become soldiers for. They became soldeirs to uphold and defend a symbol, not to fight for the white man and his desires. Even though that is what they are used for at times. Fighting for a symbol of peace and justice cannot be evil. No matter the soldiers skin color.
But to agree with a part of what you said, name one military action that wasn’t for wealth or power or dominance? I dont think anyone can. The main thing i disagree with that you brought up is this: “I understand where you are coming from sis, but there is such a thing as “guilt by association”. I didn’t say that all the black soldiers are bad people, but if you are a part of an entity that intends to do evil, that makes you evil by association” That statement contradicts itself, you say you dont think every black person in the military is evil, but go on to say that they are all evil by association. They are not, as I pointed out before they are not fighting for the white man and his evil ways, but the ideals that the U.S. stands for, justice and liberty.
P.S. THIS IS FOR EVERYONE THAT LAUGHED.
The reporter throwing the shoe at bush was disrespectful. The reporter was not throwing the shoe at bush as a person, but the office he represents. Bush is the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. That office holds power and throwing a shoe at that office is disrespect. Not just to him but to every american. Bush was a bad president by most peoples standards, but that does not negate the fact that he is a political figure that deserves respect if for no reason other than that. If they could disrespect his position like that, then they can easily do the same to Obama. Yall would not have found this funny if he did that to Obama.
@Young College Student…
Wow…and you call yourself a “college student.” What is your major, basket weaving? Maybe you should think about taking some remedial English class. You are a complete disgrace to the college you attend and your teachers if you do not know the difference between “you’re” and “your”
Background info to this story:The journalist who attacked Bush is a victim of the war. He was kidnapped and his family was killed. So, of course he’s going to be angry amd upset. When you loose everything, reasoning is no longer there.
I know the difference between the two actually, It was a typo and although repeated you understood my point. It is not as if i used a word out of context and incorrectly. Typing fast one is prone to make mistakes and a simple one as your and you’re is easy. “Your” is possessive and “you’re” is a contraction for you are. Do not try to insult my intelligence. I know the difference between the two.
But it is funny that you would point out only grammar issues rather than debate my argument. That shows that you are young minded and seek only to hurt my feelings because i dissed you.
And yes I am aware that i used the wrong your and you’re again. Fuq up its the internet, grammar is important but irrelevant as long as you understand my meaning.
@Young college student
Debate you? I already have one nincompoop to deal with in Judas; I really cannot handle another one. Sorry….
I wonder if the asshat would have thrown the shoe at Sadam Hussein.
201.
Young college student,
I read through your post and I really don’t feel like typing what I did earlier, but I’m guessing you may have read it. If not you should check it out. Just a few points….
-Are U.S. troops now considered terrorists? We are doing the same amount of killings if not more than what Al Queda did. Check out pics of the pits of women and children’s bodies.
-Why are the U.S. troops in Iraq when Al Queda is not even there? Who are the U.S. troops shooting at? Perhaps that’s why there’s so much “friendly” fire claiming lives.
-Can you blame Iraqi citizens for suicide car bombs when they have lost their innocent families? They have nothing else to lose.
-Ever stop to think why Al Queda chose the U.S. and not any other nation? Why our allies felt no need to go into war with us?
Just a few questions I had. Before you assume that he cursed America as a whole, look for the translations of what was actually said and why American media was so quick to cut that part of the video out. Also check out what they had to say about our U.S. troops in Darfur. There’s no terrorists there.
@ Dukesman
Lol, I don’t need you to explain anything because you don’t understand what you think you believe, so what can you possibly teach? Obama is a hackneyed topic and it’s beyond redundant. I brought him up in regards to what you said concerning caucasians, to highlight your duplicity and simplicity. The “significance” of his (s)election has nothing to do with the topic. You’d like to make it one because that is the only subject that you think you can draw out into a retort. What makes you think that I haven’t researched Malcolm X, lol? What he is taught to have represented is not complex at all and it certainly wasn’t fulfilling, because if it was, he wouldn’t have waffled back and forth between doctrines at the end of his life. He realized that he did the same thing with Elijah Muhammad that you do with him, that being worship a man. If Malcolm X was so “right and honorable”, lol, why did he recant his stance on whites? Either they are the devil or they are not. It’s not “American whites” or some whites that are bad, as he claimed at the end. He said he “went to Mecca” and saw caucasian muslims in fellowship and brotherhood with black muslims, which is a damn lie because muslim arabs are amongst the most racist people in the damn world, particularly in that region. What happened was that he no longer had the backing of an organization like the NOI and he tried to endear himself to a certain, erudite segment of caucasians that he thought he could subvert with his rhetoric and it didn’t work because white people, unlike blacks, don’t forget or forgive perceived injustices or insults. At the end of the day, he was a wildcard that could no longer be controlled and monitored by that agent, Elijah Muhammad, and he had to go.
No disrespect to you; but like I’ve stated before, you couldn’t debate me on one topic, certainly not black history. You’re better off staying in your place and staying simple. You should pray to you “love god” that he forgive you for all the children you raped and men you shot for no reason. Damn hypocrite. “Pragmatism” is based on your perceived reality, so that has no relevance to me because we’re not thinking on the same plane. You are a two-dimensional thinker with a yearning to be deep; as “young college student” touched on, but it’s not happening, lol. Honestly all your pragmatism jargon is a cover for the fact that your driven by your lusts and you do not want to be bound by any laws other than the white man’s Constitution. This is why you fabricate the “love god”, lol. One of the tests of an intelligent man is when he’s smart enough to know when he’s not smart enough. I don’t care how many times you claim you’ve read the Bible. When you understand one verse, we can converse.
Lol, as usual, DaisyDukes can’t deal with intelligence so she comments on grammar. Niggette please, you can’t spell ya damn self.
@ dukes, ahaha see my point? You can’t keep up intellectually. I have no doubt that you are intelligent, but your intellectual and argumentative skills are not up par.
@ judah, I did not see you refute any of what i said.
@ Honest critic…
“-Are U.S. troops now considered terrorists? We are doing the same amount of killings if not more than what Al Queda did. Check out pics of the pits of women and children’s bodies. ”
I understand that we are doing worse to iraq than what terrorist do everyday. I said i personally believe that this war is bush’s personal war. My argument is for the soldiers though they are following orders. This is not what the people want but rather one mans wishes.
“-Why are the U.S. troops in Iraq when Al Queda is not even there? Who are the U.S. troops shooting at? Perhaps that’s why there’s so much “friendly” fire claiming lives.”
Again thats a result of the corruption from bush, this isnt just a war or terrorism in my opinion but bushes personal vendetta.
“-Can you blame Iraqi citizens for suicide car bombs when they have lost their innocent families? They have nothing else to lose.”
I do not blame the people. I said that its not fair that they are paying with blood for things they arent guilty of.
“-Ever stop to think why Al Queda chose the U.S. and not any other nation? Why our allies felt no need to go into war with us? ”
Al Queda chose us because we are the most wealthy nation in the world (or used to be) and we were poking our noses in affairs we had nothing to do with. I understand their reason for attacking us but that does not justify it.
My arguments were not to justify the war, but to address the fact that our soldiers are not in the army just to kill and hurt. They are in the army to defend a symbol.
“Just a few questions I had. Before you assume that he cursed America as a whole, look for the translations of what was actually said and why American media was so quick to cut that part of the video out. Also check out what they had to say about our U.S. troops in Darfur. There’s no terrorists there.”
Ok so maybe the reporter did not curse america as a whole. He did however disrespect OUR president. Ignoring all other aspects of the situation, he threw at shoe at the president of the united states of america. That is an insult to all americans. Im sorry but I do not see any way out of that.
As for there being no terrorist there, I am repeating what i said previously. Bush has his own personal vendetta, and this administration is corrupt. I have no doubt about that, and I do believe this war is going no where. There very well may be no terrorist there and the people are suffering for no reason. My ONLY point is that our soldiers are not there to defend bush and his ignorant war. Despite it being wrong, our soldiers are there under orders and must defend the U.S. and respect the presidency. This is not to ignore the fact that there is injustice in doing so. Our soldiers are in the army defending a symbol and ideal.
this has been as funny as snoops new episode of fatherhood.
watch him fight wit a pro boxer!
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@College Student
The slaves that fought for the armies, both North and South, in the civil war were not “evil”, per se, but they were dupes. That situation has nothing to do with the Iraq war because the slaves were fighting for themselves, allegedly. Blacks in Iraq do not know why they are fighting, and no black soldier can tell me that they know because, as I’ve stated, the good master of the house doesn’t even know. Nice try though. I don’t think that what I said concerning the U.S. troops is that deep an issue. There are “good” people in every entity, but that entity is what determines what your actions are, and your actions determine who you are. A better analogy would be to compare the slaves to the Iraqis who are fighting back to retain some form of freedom, not to the modern day blacks that are part and parcel of the oppressor.
Now sis, no disrespect but your second paragraph and attempt at a point was kind of scatter-brained. Is terrorism real or is it fabricated? That seems to be something that you need to decide before you claim a side. Saddam Hussein has been on the U.S. payroll since 1959 believe it or not. The intent of this war is to 1) accrue the oil 2) conquer the Muslim countries, break down their culture, and destroy the family structure 3) Install “democracy” and puppet leaders that will make sure the people remain subdued 4) use those countries as markets for trade and as outlets for the American economy. It has nothing to do with Saddam or Osama Bin Laden. Those men are James Bond villains. The white man needs villains to put on TV for the simple-minded so that he has a pretext to invade, and alleged “justification” for the violence and death that will ensue. Forty years ago when he invaded Southeast Asia, he used the excuse of the “Domino Effect” and the spread of communism, when in actuality the point of the Vietnam War was to bring the heroin out (which was brought out in movies like “Lethal Weapon”, “American Gangster”, etc.). Do you really think that they cannot find Osama Bin Laden, lol? It’s been 7 years. There’s no cave that damn deep. Now, look at what you just said, lol. You said, “I LIKE TO BELIEVE that soldiers fight for freedom and justice.”. Lmao, are you for real? I can tell that you’re a black woman with that B.S. you just tried to shovel. So, hypothetically speaking, I can put a gun in your hand and tell you to bring something back for me and use whatever means to get it, as long as I tell you that the intent is to “bring peace”? Unfortunately, 90% of Americans think just like you, which is why Americans are the most hated people on planet Earth.
You said that the black soldiers are not evil because they are fighting for what the U.S. stands for. What does the U.S. stand for because it certainly does not stand for freedom or justice. Do you know what justice is? I already know that you don’t know what freedom is. You’re predicating your entire attempt at an argument off of what believe the U.S. stands for, which has nothing to do with what it actually stands for. When has America ever been just to the people who built this country? You think probably you’re free because you can wear tight pants, get tattoes, and tell a black man off, lol. This is why those Iraqi and Afghani men are fighting so hard. They haven’t been bitched out like the black man and they understand that freedom and justice starts with order and the family structure. This is why I mentioned earlier how I cannot see how these American soldiers can be trusted to enforce right or wrong when they don’t even know what right and wrong is, nor do most Americans. For example, look at you. They’re not fighting for the white man and his evil ways but they’re fighting for ideals he fabricated in a country built on the blood, rape, and death of our people. You sound ridiculous.
Bush deserves respect as a “political figure”? How about Hitler? Would you say that he deserved respect as a “political figure”? Saddam was a “political figure”. Did he deserve respect or did he deserve what his fate is alleged to have been, which is death? You’re beating around the Bush, lol. You’re just another patriotic negro that is trying to front like you’re for your own. Stop the madness because you don’t have a leg to stand on with me.
@College Student
I wasn’t talking to you, I was talking to Daisydukes. Cool your jets. Your lesson got trapped in the CL filter, lol.
@ judah. I know. No one is mad. I am just interested in what you had to say in response. I enjoy debating. but uhm My lesson though?
Caught in the filter sis. Lord willing, you’ll see it tomorrow.
Ah, wat the hell? so this post has become a battle ground amongst Judah, Dukesman, Young college student & honest critic? Ummm, ya’ll, get off the computer, take a break, grab a snack or something, its not that serious, really.
@ Judah…..I’m not fortunate enough to be blessed with a lot of time to actually respond to blogs in a timely manner (My life revolves around my Spelman College students), so please excuse my tardiness……Oh the agony of grading and revising papers is killing me sir
What i want to add is this……You state that “guilt by association” is the plague of the “good” African-American soldiers, correct? I don’t quite grasp the fact of what you’re stating here…..You’re right, I agree that the majority of soldiers, if not all, who are fighting over in Iraq have no earthly idea of why they’re even ther. What you must take in consideration, is the fact that society plays a major role in brainwashing our youth also (such as coercing students to join the military after they blatantly state they have no interest, feeding them stories of how they can’t get accepted into college because of low test scores which is all a bunch of balogne… the military should never be an “only way out” option). Are these soliders to be blamed? No, because they have no choice once they’re in to follow orders. We hear of plenty of soldiers who disagree with this “poor excuse” for war, but they simply have no choice….It’s either fight or be court-martialled for going AWOL. It’s a sad situation, but those “good soldiers” of which you speak, have no choice but to fight. Does this make it right….No, but what are you and I to do?
WOW! (Judah) comment #209, this is why i enjoy reading your posts….With that statement and history lesson, their is nothing more needed to say on this thread….Despite some of your “black female views” lol….Can we intelligent black women get some love from you lol?…..We are not all against the black man! I digress.
I dislike Bush as much as the next person.But we cant have other countries disrespecting our President no matter who it at the time.
Disgusting. No president should be treated this way. Outragous!
These people have no limits…they like chaos.
@181 and 217 AGREE!! Some idiots are thinking it is fun and games, but worse would happen to them if they were in Iraq. Did we forget the hostages and that Berg guy that was decapitated w/a small knife? These people are sadistic and they have killed their own people and raped their women and many other atrocities under Sadaam’s reign and not to mention Bin Laden. We think its funny now but Muslim cells are here in the US, look around you and open your eyes, been to the doctor lately? Have you ever been told about the end times in the Bible? What nationality are you seeing around you and in healthcare, many americans? You need to laugh at yourself for thinking it is funny. These are the same people that went ballistic over a cartoon they felt was disrespectful, but this is okay? You are not dealing w/people w/integrity here. Now what would have been funny, if Bush would have thrown the shoes back or came over that podium at the guy. But we all know the fallout from that would have been protest and suicide bombs and mayhem when they are disrespected. Its all about fear/terror w/these guys. Not funny when you see the whole picture.
Can we get some new stuff!
@Jayla
Alright sis, lol, you got to drop your line about how you’re a teacher at Spellman. You happy now? I have no idea how that is relevant or pertinent to the conversation other than you feel it may validate your intelligence, which it doesn’t. The ability to perceive and relate your perceptions validates intelligence. “Education” is just indoctrination and the ability to regurgitate what you’ve been programmed to think. There’s nothing wrong with conventional education, but lets’ not confuse it with intelligence. Enough of my spiel on that, lol.
Sis, I’m not going to continue much longer with this issue concerning the black soldiers. It’s obvious that some of you are taking this personal, which means that you cannot execute a constructive argument. A person always has a choice, so that is a cop out. As you’ve said, this society deals with brain-washing from the youth upward, but that is why it is so integral to know and understand history to combat that. If you are a black or hispanic man and have even a mild familiarity with U.S. history, you should never have joined any branch of the armed forces and once you do, you have put yourself in the position to have to carry out the orders of a regime that has always been evil. There are no excuses. When we put on the television, we are bombarded with violent shows, movies, and music videos. Does that mean that I can rob a store, shoot the owner, and blame Snoop Dogg in a court of law? No. We know for a fact that the black man cannot do that and the majority of us are raised in environments that foster violence.
As far as the intelligent sisters and me giving them “credit”, my credit has nothing to do with anything. I qualify my statements by saying “most”. If you’re not one of the “most”, then you have nothing to get offended about. There’s an old saying that when you throw a rock into a pack of dogs, the only dogs that bark are the ones that got hit.
hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhaahhahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha too bad he missed!!!! if he would have hit him I prolly would have pissed on myself laughin!!!!!!!
why can’t things be funny anymore damn. People don’t have any sense of humor on here. Hell I can’t stand Bush and never called him my president. I don’t have a job now because of him. We spending all that money in Iraq and me and my 5 month daughter that has sturge weber have to struggle. You take care of home first and Bush has not. I respect our troops but not Bush.
MAN THAT’S CRAZY HE ALMOST HAD HIM THOUGH LOL!!!!
I KNOW I AM VERY LATE, BUT JUDAH IF YOU DO STOP BY THIS BLOG AGAIN, I THINK YOU WILL BE INTERESTED IN CHECKING OUT THAT HBO SERIES HOUSE OF SADDAM. IT’S CRAZY HOW YOU SEE HOW DIRTY U.S. WAS DURING HIS PRESIDENCY. DID ANYONE STOP TO ASK WHY WAS SADDAM’S BANK FULL OF AMERICAN MONEY? I’M GUESSING PEOPLE THINK HE CAME OVER AND STOLE THAT FROM US. IT’S OBVIOUS HE WAS ON OUR PAYROLE.
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fififj123,
CHECK OUT THIS MOVIE CALLED “THE RENDITION” CAME OUT IN 07 I BELIEVE. IT WAS ABOUT HOW THE US HIRED ARABS TO TORTURE AN AMERICAN WHO WENT ON A MISSION THERE TO FIND OUT SOME THINGS. THEY DID THIS SO THAT OUR POLITICIANS WOULDN’T LOOK BAD. IT WAS BASED ON A TRUE STORY.
SOMEONE SAID EARLIER ABOUT HOW THEY RAPE THEIR WOMEN AND KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE ALL UNDER SADDAM’S REGIME? THAT’S SAD TO KNOW, BUT I LIVE IN THE U.S. AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE A BUNCH OF RAPISTS HERE, COPS KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE, RACISM STILL, SCHOOL SHOOTINGS, AND NOW IN AN ECONOMIC “CRISIS” ALL UNDER BUSH. SO SHOULD WE SAY IT’S OKAY FOR TROOPS FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY COME OVER AND REGULATE OUR COUNTRY FOR THE BAD THINGS THAT’S BEEN HAPPENING OVER HERE?
Yes this was funny, but look at it now, the guy who threw the shoes, was badly beaten after the meeting was over, he suffered blows to the head and back, and he has to do 2 years in prision for insulting the president, what might be good is that the jounalist president might grant him a leave from jail, so its a win lose win thing, hmm smh
@Lady Architect
Thank you for the heads up sis.
@ 233, WE KNOW ALL THAT ABOUT RAPE,ETC IN THE USA BY INDIVIDUALS IN THE COMMUNITIES, BUT ITS A DIFFERENT ANIMAL WHEN ITS THE GOVERNMENT DOING IT. GO OVER THERE AND LIVE. WHAT ABOUT IRAQ’S THREAT TO DESTROY ISRAEL AND THE WHOLE REASON FOR THE PERSIAN GULF WAR IN THE 90′S. WHERE THE US, WHICH INCLUDED MY BROTHER IN OPERATION DESERT STORM, WERE STATIONED IN SAUDI ARABIA TO DEFEND IT AGAINST POSSIBLE INVASION AFTER THE IRAQIS INVADED KUWAIT, WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE THERE THAT THE IRAQIS KILLED? YEAH, POOR IRAQ. THE WHOLE REASON FOR THE IRAQ WAR IN THE FIRST PLACE WAS TO PREVENT IRAQ FROM ACQUIRING WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION! NO ONE WANTS TO BELIEVE IRAQ IS TRYING TO GET ITS HANDS ON NUCLEAR POWER, BUT THEY ARE. HOW CAN ANYONE SAY THAT THEY ARE NOT AND HAVE NOT GOTTEN THEIR HANDS ON NUCLEAR WEAPONTRY AS IF THEY ARE HONEST PEOPLE AND WILL JUST FESS UP. WHEN THESE TERRORIST GET THAT POWER, THERE WILL BE A NUCLEAR WAR AND WE WILL SEE WHAT WE THINK ABOUT BUSH THEN. AND AS FAR AS OTHER COUNTRIES COMING OVER TO THE USA B/C OF THE BAD THINGS IN OUR HISTORY, WHICH AGAIN WAS NOT THE REASON FOR THE IRAQ WAR, I’M PRETTY SURE THAT SLAVES WOULD NOT HAVE MINDED IT, BUT THE US EVENTUALLY TOOK CARE OF THAT OURSELVES.
these shoe throwing games are too funny